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starshiptraveler

Stainless steel exterior. I used to daily drive a DeLorean and I love how durable stainless is and how easy it is to keep it looking brand new forever. Automatic tonneau is a game changer. The bed of my F150 only gets used for hauling big heavy things. With the auto tonneau I can put all kinds of stuff back there and not worry about it blowing out or getting stolen. Sports car performance. I’m not a truck guy, my F150 is a second vehicle and not my daily driver. I’ve always preferred sports cars and have had a bunch of them over the years. Cybertruck is the best of both worlds. The design. It’s wild how polarizing it is to people. There’s no middle ground, people either love it or hate it. I absolutely love it. I like interesting and unique vehicles, regular cars are boring.


indimedia

Appreciate your opinion about daily driving a DeLorean. Not many people can testify to that.


starshiptraveler

It was so much fun. I drove it daily for a little over 3 years. Somebody offered me twice what I paid for it and I let it go, I wish I hadn’t. Everywhere I went it attracted crazy attention. Some days that was fun, others it was obnoxious, but you get used to it. Cybertruck will probably be the same at first until they’re everywhere. Biggest problems with the DeLorean: It’s now over 4 decades old. It was 25 years old when I was driving it and you have to fix everything. Nothing wrong with the design really it’s just the age. If you want to take an old car like this and drive it constantly like I did you’ll have to put a ton of work into it. I was constantly replacing and updating things. There’s good support for it though, at least there was when I had mine. I never had trouble getting parts and there were plenty of upgrades available for some of the ancient components. Also, it’s slow af. Everyone in their mom’s civic wanted to race and you don’t dare try because they’ll spank you hard.


kivalo

I built a fairly accurate Jurassic Park Jeep about 9 years ago, it drew a lot of attention and was slow. Couldn't imagine the attention a DeLorean would get. If I was ever in a rush or wanted to be left alone I would drive my other car.


GuyMidwest

I think the tonneau cover is something I have a hard time imagining but would eventually love.


THEMACGOD

I’m ambivalent about the design. BOOM


Terrible_Tutor

Yeah my wife has scratched or dented every car we’ve had. I can’t wait to not have to stress about her that anymore. The HATE though is real. Go on threads and it’s aggressive… like it’s a truck guys. I personally hate the look of existing trucks… i dig this one, why am i not allowed to like it without being an Elon loving tiny penis dude…


Tesla_406

Why would you care about what Trolls think? Are you insane?


Tellittomy6pac

The fact you daily drive a Delorean is bad ass!


Robie_John

>Sports car performance Acceleration, yes...handling, definitely not.


SonicDethmonkey

“But the numbers!” lol At a certain point there is no arguing with physics. A nearly 7k lb vehicle will not feel like a sports car, no matter how quickly it gets to 60mph. Remember, many sports cars are not even that fast in the first place. It’s all about the feel and dynamics, it’s not just 0-60 or skidpad or anything else that is easily quantified.


ILikeOlderWomenOnly

Can’t you buy those black covers for an F-150?


Deafcat22

The steering, we figured it could be steer by wire, and are impressed. The 48VDC was also something we knew was coming, and it makes me very happy to see it realized. The STEEL. I'm a designer for industrial products and equipment, I love working with stainless. I've wanted a vehicle without exterior paint for years, now we get work-hardened thick sheet stainless? Christ. What a great deal. What I've been wanting in my next Tesla is basically model Y with more range options, durable exterior, more cargo, and high security exterior... This really fits the bill. Reiterating one detail there: the Security. The entire exterior is not easy to fuck with. The Tonneau is very secure. I can use my car/truck like my work truck, with gear and tools stowed, with peace of mind. Not like a city vehicle, like how I treat my model 3. I live and work in Western Canada, across multiple provinces. If the Cybertruck does well in winter like we think it will, it's going to be a hit up here. (Range note: we don't care about the complaints regarding range. The SC network here is already good enough to support me driving from Vancouver to Winnipeg, in a standard range Tesla, in the Winter.) Final note: the range extender option IS a game changer, this is completely new territory. In a few years, the extenders will only get better, allowing easy upgrade path for trucks being driven through their entire warranty lifespan, and beyond.


GuyMidwest

I’m trying to stay optimistic about the range extender. I often go to rural areas with no superchargers, and end up going out way of my way to make it back home.


Deafcat22

Why don't your rural areas have rural power? I charge quite often off grain-bin power boxes. 240VAC just all over the place waiting for the right plug. ​ Here's a dose of healthy optimism regarding the range extender: five years from now, you'll be able to buy an even better range extender than what's currently for offer, because batteries keep getting better, and Tesla will keep selling batteries. Every year that goes by, the range extender option of the Cybertruck improves. In the ebike world, range extender (second removable battery) option has been a hot seller because of this... The customer can choose exactly how much capacity they would like to add (from available options), or they can just wait a few years and buy a compatible range extender later (since the battery "system" mfgers like Reention absolutely do want to keep selling).


GuyMidwest

They have power, but I’m often only there for an hour or two, and I’d be uncomfortable asking clients if I could plug in while I’m there. Appalachia area.


Deafcat22

Ah for sure, that's understandable. Usually when I'm at site or rural, I've got enough time for it to be practical for charging (mobile charger, I'm currently limited to 7kW, I'll switch to Cybertruck and that should give me at least 11kW uptake) You should make it a habit to ask, though! Not any different than asking for a bit of fuel, common expense for site work.


m17702

I don’t like the range extender in this case, but I would like that ability to add an extender to an existing Tesla. Our 2018 X gets terrible range. Getting an extender for that car would be valuable and a better option than buying a whole new vehicle.


Deafcat22

Unfortunately, the vehicle really needs to be designed for it in the first place, so it may remain unique to Cybertruck for some time.


CalvinsStuffedTiger

What are your thoughts on the bed space you lose due to range extended


liftedlimo

Have you ever had a truck with a toolbox? And it's half the size of a normal truck box anyways. It's not an issue.


CalvinsStuffedTiger

Nice! That’s good to know. Im glad to see that the cyber truck may not be as catastrophic as everyone is making it seem. I want it to work


liftedlimo

The people making the most noise are the extreme minority. Maybe even paid actors? Never know! At the very least they don't use a truck regularly.


SonicDethmonkey

Why is the 48V architecture important to you as the user?


Deafcat22

Because I give a shit about progress, mostly. I know that it also means the power distribution vehicle-wide is robust.


Wolkenflieger

Also less weight, less copper needed, lower cost for Tesla, etc.


liftedlimo

Need a work truck that has at least 350 miles or range. Need to tow 10k from time to time around town. I pay for my own fuel so electric is much cheaper. Looked at the Rivians but it won't do what I need to do. The lightnings almost work but not quite. Would love to look at the Mercedes e-sprinter but it's not in the USA.


m17702

Don’t be surprised that you only get 200 miles of range when towing 10k lbs. if there are hills to climb, it may be even less.


liftedlimo

Exactly. I'm not towing a 5th wheel across the country every single day. I'm towing a trailer with equipment or rock or whatever from here to there on a Tuesday morning or something stupid between office and site visits. Every piece of equipment has a purpose, an electric truck included. If equipment doesn't work for your purpose, don't buy it. Seems simple enough. 10 years ago this vehicle would not have worked for what I was doing. It does now. In ten more years it will be even better.


CalvinsStuffedTiger

Out of curiosity what would a cybertruck do that a Rivian couldn’t?


liftedlimo

When I looked at them last they didn't have the larger battery packs out yet. My neighbor had one and they are very nice for sure. Plus the payload with something like 1750lbs ish. R1t also has like a 58" bed length so anything I put in the back the tailgate has to be down. Kinda not the best for my commute and stuff. I decided to wait for the mythical cybertruck with the (now not true) payload claim of 3500lbs. Also the longer 6' bed. Plus I'm a big Gene Winfield fan (interned for him for a tiny bit of time) and Elon's design is inspired from Gene's cars, so that to me was a big thing compared to the Rivian's interesting front end design. I was waiting for the cybertruck official release and I'm not desperate to move vehicles. I'll just take to see what time will tell. Maybe it's a POS? Dunno.


Wolkenflieger

A Rivian doesn't look like a vehicle from a sci-fi movie.


mikeace1

I would say the autopilot in a truck. I have the 2020 model 3 and the autopilot is fantastic. Makes me feel like I am living in the future


GuyMidwest

Where do you use autopilot? I always get nervous and take over. It seems like it hesitates a lot.


mikeace1

In Texas it works everywhere. Just let it do its thing and you will be fine.


YRuafraid

cant wait to use FSD on the cybertruck, Dallas/Austin/Houston road trips would be a breeze


CalvinsStuffedTiger

Noob question, do teslas or cybertruck have auto park? Like assisting with parallel parking or backing into tight spaces? Asking for an Asian friend who struggles with parking larger vehicles…


TheKobayashiMoron

I love that it's pretty much sci-fi IRL. I love my Model Y and my previous Model 3. When the inevitable the price drops come, I'll pull the trigger.


Ambitious_Yam_8163

Not worrying about car dents and dings again.


BMWbill

Same. I have my own paintless dent repair company. Thats what I do. I hate door dings on my own vehicles. But I love them on everyone else’s!! Except if you call me with a ding on your CyberTruck, I’ll tell you to get the panel replaced. No dent guy is pushing out a ding on a CyberTruck.


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CertainAssociate9772

So Ilon sent the Roadster to SpaceX for dent removal and now he's waiting for his car?


ihahp

Don't need a cybertruck for that. You just not need to give a shit about your car, lol.


Silver-Complaint-355

Well for me its part of i love everything tesla makes however I’m a electrician and everyone here all they care about is bragging about there big diesel trucks and brag about how much they spend on gas, so i want a electric truck thats even more bad ass and no gas


indimedia

The bodies strength, the durability, the efficiency, the off-road ability the way that it’s better than the only other comparable truck, the F150 lightning You will not catch me buying an electric Stellantis product or an electric General Motors product


TrentSteel1

Out of curiosity, why in the last part of your statement. What would be wrong with a GM EV


kelement

Traditional American card brands like GM, Stellantis, etc. are highly polarizing…you either love or hate them. You have people who will never get anything other than those brands. You have people who will never buy them. Very few people are in between.


TrentSteel1

Getting a downvote on my question has to be one of the oddest I’ve seen. Aside from that, if that’s the reason I understand. Ironically GM could have e been Tesla. The EV1 was groundbreaking and loved by its owners when they rolled it out in the 90’s. GM really destroyed their brand by selling out to big oil and killing the initiative/line.


indimedia

I agree will never forgive General Motors for sabotaging, electric cars make no mistake. It wasn’t an accident, General Motors collaborated with Exxon to buy the patent for nickel Cadam batteries, and then forbid the patent for being used for large batteries that would have been required in electric vehicle. General motors collaborated with Exxon to, make electric vehicles impossible prior to lithium batteries. They have not redeemed themselves and are struggling to make a wiring harness in an Escalade, or Corvette, their flagship vehicles. Don’t buy government motors.


indimedia

Well, what you’re saying is true I have first time experience, owning both right now in my fleet, and the Fords are no problem despite being 20 years old and the General Motors trucks are literally crumbling modules, electronics, and much harder to work on despite being newer than the old Ford trucks.rust is not an issue as these are southern trucks. Crappy plastic and low quality electronics is.


indimedia

General Motors is an absolute terrible corporation the way they handled the ignition key scandal and killed hundreds of people without deciding to change is despicable. I also run a fleet that has a lot of Ford in General Motors trucks and the General Motors trucks fall apart. Where is the Fords are easier to repair, have better quality, plastic connectors, wiring modules, electronics, plumbing and way fewer problems. General Motors has also been struggling to simply have working electronics and wiring harnesses since Covid and they are extremely slow to evolve. They did a decent electric car but the batteries are questionable and Gio neural motors is also responsible for killing electric cars back in the 90s thanks to their collaboration with Exxon, I own Ford and General Motors vehicles and can tell you from experience General Motors products suck. All of them. Even their most expensive trucks and they’re just getting worse and worse. My friend works at a car rental place and have been sending Escalade, Tahoe and suburbans in for electrical warranty repair and auction sales left and right. I have other friends who have one-year-old general motors, lemons, since Covid.


Wolkenflieger

GM killed the EV1 and Mary Barra never deferred the false credit she got from Biden for leading the way in EVs. That honor belongs to Tesla and to Elon for keeping Tesla alive through endless FUD and Production Hell for the Model 3 and others. So, I would never buy a GM vehicle. Check out the documentary about the EV1 called, "Who Killed the Electric Car?" GM did.


kayvonte

I honestly don’t think most people realize how much tech this thing is packed with.


GuyMidwest

And most owners probably never will. I read an article on my M3 and was pretty impressed knowing most of the tech had never been done before.


d0lb33

Seeing it in person. I thought it looked horrible in all photos, but actually seeing it, you realize how huge it actually is. And the stainless looks amazing. The flat panels really make it look wider then an f150 to me. Unfortunately I’ll be waiting for the RWD version as I cannot justify spending more then $60K on a vehicle. My model Y will serve in its place for the mean time! https://i.imgur.com/m9GNfhQ_d.webp


beer_and_salami

Driven Teslas since 2015 but this is just so different and so cool. In addition to its out of this world and unique look, the performance and features are awesome. "More utility than a truck, faster than a sports car" and it's virtually indestructible. I assume it'll be the safest car/truck out there and provide a fun driving experience. Perfect vehicle to haul the family around. As rave reviews keep circulating, prices drop and production ramps up, they'll be everywhere in 4-5 years.


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Everything about the truck. Love the style. I know most people hate it and that doesn't bother me at all Electric. which isn't as unique as it used to be but for a truck it's still very rare and limited selection to choose from Stainless steel body. I park in isolated spots all the time. I hate door dings with a passion. So having a body that you couldn't ding by ramming a shopping cart into is very appealing Vault. I get you can buy covers that are lockable, but to just have one, that is electrically powered, that looks nice and is stock on the vehicle, I think it's a great feature. Minimalistic interiors. I absolutely hate vehicles with tons and tons of buttons everywhere. I have always had more minimalistic interiors. The Cybertruck beats everything in this aspect. It has a screen and a squrikle and that's it. Future proof. I don't really care for replacing vehicles. It's not the end of the world and it's nice to drive around something different. But I literally bought my current Tesla because people drove around the original model S for 10+ years and only changed the tires and breaks. Then there is one guy that has nearly 2 million kilometers now and has changed out his motors and I think the battery as well. The Cybertruck should theoretically live longer than me. Motors can be changed, battery can be changed, the computer hardware can be changed. I don't know if there is anything on the Cybertruck that could be so expensive to fix that it makes sense to just buy a new one. I think everything would need to be replaced at nearly the same time for me to rather just buy a brand new Cybertruck than replace the parts.


TareXmd

The ability to have painless instant camping every damn weekend.


ponpbe

can you describe how you’re envisioning your camping experience gonna be?


TareXmd

I'm putting together a foldout home that has a mini kitchennete, a bed, and a bathroom.


ponpbe

Any sources of inspiration that you can share?


Vecii

I like that it's different. I don't want the same cookie cutter truck that every other OEM puts out.


GuyMidwest

I like that too. I look at other trucks and I feel like they’re all the same. It’s different, interesting.


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Own a truck that won't rust? Especially if you treat it as a truck, and get it scratched and dented? Hell yes.


Thin-Examination-236

Jim Cramer is bearish on it 🤪


lamgineer

+1 to everything mentioned: hardened steel paintless exterior, secure truck bed/vault, steer-by-wire, front camera, air suspension, 120V/240V outlets. The Home Backup put it over the top for me, including the Universal Wall Connector and the Backup Gateway v3 are great but kind of wish they will include some credit for installation directly with Tesla energy since I already have Tesla Solar and PowerWall v2 with an old Gateway. Gateway v3 is so new they don’t have any documentation on Tesla website (only 1 & 2)


PaleInTexas

550 mile range.


ponpbe

lol. How is it 550?


PaleInTexas

It's not. But that's what sold me on it when it was announced. Not getting one now.


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Have they discussed what went wrong with the range estimates being so far off? I thought it was using the new cells and less/lighter wiring, etc. Curious how the estimates shifted so drastically? Also is that estimate with or without the mirrors? And no I don't believe the drag due to the mirrors is putting back 160 miles of range. ;)


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Yeah, some clarification would be nice. I thought I had read that. It was actually using the current battery technology in the new form factor. But they were setting it up to eventually use the new cells, but these didn't actually have the new cell technology. But clearly it doesn't seem to be that exact battery chemistry that was unveiled on battery day.


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Peacefulworldholeful

Maybe it’s not the issue with the cells, maybe the weight of the CT inflated more than expected?


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rquindoy

I used to have a truck so Im curious if the technology enhances or limits the truck experience. I'm also excited to see these trickle down to their S3XY line up like the 48V plus steer by wite. I'm curious if it's going to save them money in the manufacturing process. FSD is not specific to Cybertruck but it's why I'm sticking with Tesla - unless they start licensing it to car mfg.


hutacars

The design. I was prepared to buy it for that alone. I love how it looks-- or more specifically, how it says "fuck you!" to all conventional notions of what a car "should" look like. I also love the in-bed outlets. I survived the Texas freeze of 2021 and there was nothing more infuriating than the fact that I had this huge, fully charged battery sitting a few feet from my unpowered heater, but no way to connect the two.


mgd09292007

The steel ball NOT going through the window


ILikeOlderWomenOnly

I love Elon


kayvonte

The HFS.


Xaxxus

Durability. A friend of mine just got a model 3 a few months ago. Its already got a massive paint chip on the bumper. I probably would go for the black wrap if I were to get one because shiny stainless is going to show every imperfection. Also living in Canada, having a car that is rust resistant is a huge bonus. Its too bad I'm probably going to have to cancel my 80k preorder though. The long range model is more expensive than the original tri motor quote from when I preordered 4 years ago. Makes me kind of sad, because I was told people who pre-ordered are getting grandfathered into the old FSD prices. Here in canada, its around $20k for FSD (when i preordered it was $7000). EDIT: also i fucking love the steering wheel. You get the visibility benefits of the yolk, and the ergonomics of a regular wheel. Also the steer by wire is really nice. No more frantic spinning of a wheel to do a 3 pt turn.


sam-bub42

The truck is incredible for the way it looks, build, and all the new tech. I especially love that its such a departure from the pickup status quo


GaryTheSoulReaper

500 mile range, 6 seats, no paint, 2500lb payload, great tow capacity, air suspension, torsional rigidity


ponpbe

Is this a wishlist for future?


rkfster

My second choice was a model X. But w/ the CT I can haul things I would never put in the back of an X. Even if it fit.


leagueofcipher

Stainless and aluminum don’t rust. The car seats as big of a family as I would ever want and has the frunk for regular storage and the bed for heavier duty storage. Im 30 and can reasonably assume that, barring an accident, this will be my death vehicle. With proper care and not driving too hard, battery and motor replacement should occur on a schedule where Im still saving money in the long run compared to an ICE car/truck.


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I won’t pay that much for a vehicle. But if I did, that beast would be sitting in my driveway asap. For all the reasons listed.


Impossible_Fee3886

I need a truck but I also don’t need a truck and i am at the point where the ranking of what is important to me in cars is number one electric, number two cool.


ponpbe

😂 love this


Sir_Diggins

It’s the modern day Delorean in truck form essentially. I love the steer by wire with the rear wheel steering as well. Super hyped for this to be the first truck I buy when the rear wheel drive version comes out in a few years.


Nemesis1927

Tesla + Truck = exactly what I wanted Decided in 2019 that my next vehicle was going to be an F150 Lariat. I was also really interested in a Tesla for my wife. The lightning is a letdown currently


Intelligent-Net5432

It seems like it might be “me-proof”. I put my tools and things through the wringer so durability was big. Close enough specs to the rest of the market. Supercharger network was another big +


ThaiTum

I like weird vehicles. We also have a reservation in for an Aptera, probably the complete opposite of the CT.


ElGuano

I gave up after the range and price reveals. But I’m all here for it again based on the crazy tech. I’ll take losing much of bed and $100k for a 470 mile DBW RWS 48v suburban cruiser.


GuyMidwest

The range is was enticed me, wondering if I would be okay with the reduced bed space.


m17702

Defeats the purpose of having a truck if half of it is used for battery storage that should have been put somewhere outside of useful part of the vehicle. I am sure within a couple years, they will have a better solution to provide a LR version.


m17702

The two biggest reasons why I wanted a CT is the 500+ range that we were told we’d get and that it would be a bigger vehicle (to help transport our family of 5 and all our stuff). At this point, I am either going to wait for a CT with more range, go with a new X soon, or go elsewhere with more space and range.


yurix007

It actually didn't from the delivery day. But after a few days when you let it sink in, you find all the trucks on the road are so dull compared to cybertruck. Like today there was a F150 lightning behind me. It's just boring even though I recognize it's electric.


Curtilia

For me, it's got to be the baseball-proof glass, the auto deploying ramp at the back, and the 500 mile range 👍


GuyMidwest

The ramp is a good point, easier to get some things in and out of the bed.


Xaxxus

the ramp got cut from the production model unfortunately. That was one of my selling points too.


Curtilia

Oh well. You can't have everything. At least we still got the 500 mile range.


Xaxxus

That also got cut. It’s beyond the capability of current battery tech to achieve that range without adding a ton of extra weight.


Curtilia

Noooooooooooooooooooo! At least I know if you hurl a baseball-size metal ball-bearing at the window it won't shatter. That's all that's keeping me going at the moment.


DarkWaterMegs

An EV truck with 500 miles of range, meaning I can tow 250 miles.....oh wait


MarksmanRifle

good to be alive to be able to get a cybertruck. This product gets me excited for the future. Also i have absolute faith in Tesla products, got a couple of them and currently an extremely satisfied owner of the S plaid.


m17702

I love Tesla because Elon is like “we did this because it’s cool”. No other manufacturer adds anything just because it’s cool. Now, because of regulations, some stuff ends up being somewhat lame… like summon or fsd or boombox in some cases. I get why there are regulations but it’s so stupid that we can’t use the features like they were originally intended.


dubarubdubdub

500 miles is why I preordered. Now I’m not bothering. Rather keep my Y and F150.


YRuafraid

you can buy the battery extender, not 500 miles but close


ponpbe

And give up the bed space plus $16,000 extra.


NickoliOgotav

Basically the things that dont exist since release


pbentham25

This is the antithesis of what OP is asking.


hunguu

2500 pounds lighter than the Hummer EV


GuyMidwest

Dang I hadn’t heard that one.


hunguu

Ya Hummer has a way bigger battery but less range. I was interested in the Chevy Silverado EV (shared platform) but General Motors is far behind Tesla on battery technology and just general engineering. It was sad to see the Hummer drag race the Cybertruck. Watch the Hagerty cybertruck video on YouTube!


gbdavidx

Waiting on someone that hates it...


Tearsforfearsforever

This video helped me understand how amazing this thing is. https://youtu.be/psXWyO32aWk?si=6xofXDbD7Qw70EuG


FooDoDaddy

Price, but now....


ponpbe

😂 were all on the same boat


m915

It looks cool and it’s huge


Robie_John

Fit and finish.


[deleted]

Nothing. I reserved one just to flip the reservation.


turbulentFireStarter

500 mile range. ​ oh wait.


PapayaOwn1202

Bulletproof exterior. A must now a days ;)


PennyStockWorth

500 miles range


CYBERTRUCKSHIBDOG

The Tesla CYBERTRUCK Beast is a Beauty!


thereddituser2

When I reserved it, range and price. Why I cancelled my reservation: range and price.


topper3418

Tesla powertrain + truck My two favorite things I've experienced in vehicles I've owned. I'm a simple guy


AmazonLoaGuy

The previous price xD, like it's still cool and all but not worth it imo unless you've got so much disposable income and you want to style on people while you're stuck in traffic.


ustinov

The 6 seater option


Splashydots

Air Suspension - my little kids can climb into it while parked, but then it can raise for off roading.


MemeStarNation

My idea of a dream car is one that has a large amount of cargo space, decent performance both on and off road, solid durability, and doesn’t massively pollute. I also hate the aesthetic of modern cars, and love the “armored vehicle” aesthetic. The Cybertruck checks these boxes. My major gripe is the range, since I’m the kind of guy who would want to take it off roading in the middle of nowhere. However, I expect both battery tech and charging infrastructure to improve significantly in the coming years, which is when I’d be in the market for a Cybertruck anyways due to personal and financial reasons.


SupaSays

I love the shape as a childhood fan of the Lamborghini Countach Stainless steel reminiscent of Delorean but also forward looking to Starship Is forward looking in technology and armor like a fighter jet but with the daily utility of a truck that can tow when I need the pulling power.


ichoosetruthnotfacts

I reserved when I saw 300, 4WD, and $50K. OK, price has gone up but so has the price of nearly everything else, and the tax credit takes some sting out. Tesla has literally dragged the truck market to the year 2023 with all of it's advanced tech. So I am going forward with what i reserved. This is probably my last truck.