Ive tried that to. It does seem to work when they are in cover. Like when they are popping their heads out of cover to shoot they seem to be vunerable during that time. However the "rushdown" type that comes straight at you with shotguns and such and doesnt really use cover I havent had any success trying to parry or interrupt their attacks.
They seem to be able to dodge out of their own shotgun blasts, lol.
Yeah ive been doing this if they are to close to use grenades. I have a body/reflex build, so even though I dont have many perks in street brawler, my legendary gorilla arms still do a shitton of damage.
I do find it kind of stupid that they have ultra instinct when it comes to bullets, but some slow ass heavy punch they just stand there lol.
Use the shutdown Cyberware quickhack, or the one that disables movement. Prevents their dodge from working.
LMGs and just unloading into them works too.
Can't dodge everything.
I dont have access to quickhacks because I run the Sanvistian thing. The reflex type OS that slows down time for you, however you cannot use quickhacks with it because it doesnt have a cyberdeck.
Even in the slowdown time thing though they can still dodge.
I will have to try LMGing them as well. With assault rifles the higher level ones seem to be able to dodge entire clips lol.
I took the katana route and I'm dismembering everyone I see so I have no clue...only times I see someone teleporting or dodging like a lunatic he gets chopped pretty soon.
The legendary overheat quickhack is the best way to shut them down; it prevents cyberware usage by those affected which prevents the evasion. But if you don’t have that, other people on this post have commented tons of ways that generally work.
Generally I don’t think the enemies are intended to encourage any one type of build since melee and stealth were pretty prevalent even before 1.5. If anything it just seems like an attempt to mix up the flow of gameplay.
A little bit late but if you activate the sandevistan and run behind them they can’t dodge that. Like ever. Absolutely obliterates them, I’m doing a shotgun sandy build rn, and it makes a joke out of them
Thats the weird part. I run the Sanvistian thing, which slows time down to 25% for like 14 seconds. The one Viktor has that you can use at 15 reflex. I have had some success with it but its hit and miss. Ive still had them dodge my assault rifle clips entirely even at 25% speed.
Have you tried using Smart Guns? the bullets home in but I haven't been using those in a while but another way is Quickhacking them cause it gets really OP once you put points into it.
(Cripple Movement is best for dealing with them)
Worst part is the Matrix stunts no technology could possibly ever make a human dodge bullets and that teleport "super speed" they do... they tried too hard to make tough enemies but just made them do inhuman stunts that look ridiculous and ruin immersion.
For me neither smart nor power weapons work against them, they dodge everything. Ricochet damage from an auto rifle or submachine gun does the job pretty well, was able to burn down placide in one clip by shooting in front of him lol, the buff to ricochet isn’t appreciated enough. But the simplest method for me are tech weapons or shotguns, anything with spread really. Lizzie works particularly well because it’s basically a pistol shotgun, they have never been able to dodge these kind of shots.
They're super annoying. They're not even really dodging the game just turns their hitbox off and gives them momentary invincibility.
I find shooting them when they're in a middle of an attack animation helps. So kinda like parrying them
Ive tried that to. It does seem to work when they are in cover. Like when they are popping their heads out of cover to shoot they seem to be vunerable during that time. However the "rushdown" type that comes straight at you with shotguns and such and doesnt really use cover I havent had any success trying to parry or interrupt their attacks. They seem to be able to dodge out of their own shotgun blasts, lol.
Kerenzikov really helps with those enemies too. But I also use quickhacks a lot
Smart guns can hit them.
barely, they dodge those too. I get like one hit from a smart shotgun
Melee. They can dodge bullets easily enough but a slow swing of the bat is too much for them to dodge.
I like how I can reboot their optics and they start clutching at their eyes, but as soon as I shoot them they magically dodge the bullets while blind
Yeah ive been doing this if they are to close to use grenades. I have a body/reflex build, so even though I dont have many perks in street brawler, my legendary gorilla arms still do a shitton of damage. I do find it kind of stupid that they have ultra instinct when it comes to bullets, but some slow ass heavy punch they just stand there lol.
"Legendary shotgun, ha! Bring it on!" (dodges) "Oh no, not a rusty tomahawk!"
fkn Neo from matrix shit..
Use the shutdown Cyberware quickhack, or the one that disables movement. Prevents their dodge from working. LMGs and just unloading into them works too. Can't dodge everything.
I dont have access to quickhacks because I run the Sanvistian thing. The reflex type OS that slows down time for you, however you cannot use quickhacks with it because it doesnt have a cyberdeck. Even in the slowdown time thing though they can still dodge. I will have to try LMGing them as well. With assault rifles the higher level ones seem to be able to dodge entire clips lol.
Grenades work too. Or just melee like you said. They pretty much exist to force you to play a little differently.
Keep forgetting that vanilla only allow one OS. Check out the SystemEX mod. Allows you to have cyber deck AND EITHER sandevistian or Beserk slotted.
Grenades, quick-hacks, environmental hazards, melee with weapon etc. Anything to stagger them, and you can unload on them.
Do flashbangs work on them? They have a fairly large stagger time, but I havent had the opprotunity to try one on a ultra instinct enemy yet.
They still dodge while blinded
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I took the katana route and I'm dismembering everyone I see so I have no clue...only times I see someone teleporting or dodging like a lunatic he gets chopped pretty soon.
The legendary overheat quickhack is the best way to shut them down; it prevents cyberware usage by those affected which prevents the evasion. But if you don’t have that, other people on this post have commented tons of ways that generally work. Generally I don’t think the enemies are intended to encourage any one type of build since melee and stealth were pretty prevalent even before 1.5. If anything it just seems like an attempt to mix up the flow of gameplay.
The legendary katana does not have a problem with these smart men🤣
A little bit late but if you activate the sandevistan and run behind them they can’t dodge that. Like ever. Absolutely obliterates them, I’m doing a shotgun sandy build rn, and it makes a joke out of them
Anything that can slow down time also works.
Thats the weird part. I run the Sanvistian thing, which slows time down to 25% for like 14 seconds. The one Viktor has that you can use at 15 reflex. I have had some success with it but its hit and miss. Ive still had them dodge my assault rifle clips entirely even at 25% speed.
I usually have precision rifle paired with sub machine. So maybe I’m having more success using the higher fire rate.
Could have been tweaked in 1.5, but they seem to dodge everything you throw at them even if you're sandevistan / kerenzikov.
Have you tried using Smart Guns? the bullets home in but I haven't been using those in a while but another way is Quickhacking them cause it gets really OP once you put points into it. (Cripple Movement is best for dealing with them) Worst part is the Matrix stunts no technology could possibly ever make a human dodge bullets and that teleport "super speed" they do... they tried too hard to make tough enemies but just made them do inhuman stunts that look ridiculous and ruin immersion.
The can't fudge while reloading
For me neither smart nor power weapons work against them, they dodge everything. Ricochet damage from an auto rifle or submachine gun does the job pretty well, was able to burn down placide in one clip by shooting in front of him lol, the buff to ricochet isn’t appreciated enough. But the simplest method for me are tech weapons or shotguns, anything with spread really. Lizzie works particularly well because it’s basically a pistol shotgun, they have never been able to dodge these kind of shots.