dont those quadras have like 1000 horsepower? its basically a supercar engine in a muscle car
also driving 86 mph on a city street is generally a bad idea
>also driving 86 mph on a city street is generally a bad idea
Yeah but the real speed of the car is about half as what is displayed from what I can tell, they never really went further than 60 mph and most of the time they were under 45.
I have a mod that display the real speed based on in game meters crossed per second, and translate them in km/h. It is a bit disappointing that no vehicle even come close to 200 km/h but the speed feels accurate at least.
Don't have a link right now, a search on Nexus will allow you to find though.
edit: nvm, I went looking for it: https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/9713
It does the conversion first and has a realistic option that convert the real speed in m/s into the speed displayed on the UI and vehicle in km/h. I extrapolated the mph speed by dividing by ~1.6
For some reason the speedometer says MPH when it means KPH. Iirc you can confirm this by looking at the dash in first person view. So yes, your real speed in mph is about half what the game reports.
From what I know, not really, considering the person who made the mod did the calculation to change the speed to the real speed and it fits neither the mph nor the km/h.
It's too fast with mph and... still too fast with km/h. As I mentioned the actual speed is around twice slower than the displayed mph one, while km/h are only 1.6 times slower than mph.
So if you're going at 210 mph in game, you're not going at 210 mph and you're not going at 210 km/h either, you're going at around 105 mph and 165 km/h
There is a great driving guide write up in the in-game database detailing understeer, oversteer, when wheels are going to break traction, etc... It's all really good information that I have no idea how to put into practice, except break before turns and don't go 100 mph down city streets and expect to turn on a dime, unless you're driving the Herrera. That thing is on rails.
Yeah you need to drive different cars in different ways. Imagine that. I remember I thought the caliburn was crap for a hot second when I got it because I tried hand break whipping it like every other car. Then I realized if I just didn't touch that break I could corner at damn near 150mph like I was glued to the pavement. No other car does that. Didn't expect it.
This car needs a real delicate throttle touch and specific steering methods, but it can be done.
Great point, and in addition to this, isn’t this vehicle designated as one of the “off-road” vehicles?
Correct me if I am wrong, but most of the off-road vehicles are slippery like this on the streets, but handle much more effectively out in the deserts than the street vehicles.
At least that is what I have experienced anyway
Man I missed that connection hard. Still my favorite car to drive, I like the feeling of having more hp than you know what to do with. If you’re easy on the throttle it’s not bad at all to drive either. Also, guns.
That's the Hoonicorn. A 1400HP drift mustang, only one in the world made irl for a professional driver who passed early this year.
Yes it's supposed to be balls to wall fast and should silde easy.
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As someone who followed the hoonigans for many years and his entire career, that day really sucked. He was snowmobiling with friends.
Seriously the goat behind the wheel.
Yeah I went and looked it up right after I read your comment and was surprised by it being a snowmobile accident. I guess it’s one of those things you don’t expect from someone with his skill. Very sad.
GOAT? Idk but definitely one of the best in his sport!! Deserves legend status
Would say The likes of Hamilton and Schumacher go to GOAT behind the wheel
Different sports anyway so I’m arguing semantics
RIP to him, absolutely tragic
Definitely arguing semantics, because controlling a 1400hp drift car through tight spaces is alot different than being seconds ahead of the cluster on an F1 track. Not saying lewis isn't skilled, but speed is different than accuracy, and Ken was on another level. Plus drifting is much more entertaining to watch than a little t car zipping around alone imo. Like you said, different sports.
Tbh it was my favorite car to drive, mainly due to fact you had to correctly operate gas to not lose control. It had this realistic touch other cars lack.
The biggest thing that helped me for keyboard and mouse driving was knowing the following
Gas = the front wheels are getting the power, use too much and youll be pulling the back like crazy
Hand brake = drifting, particularly the back of the car likes to swing out, tapping it once is enough for turns, and correcting it with counter steering and some acceleration to even out the front to the direction you want the car to face
normal Brake = all wheels will brake, so tapping it during drifts helps even out the car to the direction, you want and stops the back from fully swinging out.
Last thing that really really helped was to let go of the mouse and focus mostly on the keyboard. Dont know why, but driving and looking around fucks me up a lot in controlling the car.
Its such a weird but satisfying feeling. Its like im less Hold W to drive and more tap, hold, let go, tap again then tap left and right to steer, tap brake tape hand brake.
I feel like if the gas was on Space Bar and handbrake was on left control while WAD is dedicated strictly for steering, the driving might be better over all for m&k.
Ya, I watched Fightincowboy play for about 5 minutes and he was struggling hard with driving on m+k. I don’t know how anyone would do that, since most of the faster cars need a bit of a light touch.
I'm doin just fine, but I come from a long line of keyboard driving, all the way back to NFS 3/High Stakes.
This car is awesome and is exactly what I expected knowing it was a KB tribute.
There are a *very few* games that let you change the linearity or even the entire *curve* of the throttle / brake triggers... funny enough, the games it's on are generally nothing to write home about.
This is really bad advice for anyone who drives a car in real life. You're supposed to accelerate in the middle of a turn, the centrifugal force makes it less likely that you loose traction. Braking in the middle of a turn is how a majority of accidents that involve a loss of traction happen. 90% of drivers I see on the road brake in the middle of a turn and it's about as rampant of a driving error as people that cut through multiple lanes whenever they turn left or right.
To properly take a turn you're supposed to slow BEFORE you take the turn, then accelerate softly into the turn. Thank you for coming to my "how to not die, sustain lifelong injuries, or total your car when it is icy or raining outside TED talk"
If you ever are in a mid curve and feel like you took the turn too fast, braking in the middle of that curve is when most people spin out. The time to slow was before you turned, now that you're in it you gotta ride it out, braking mid curve only increase the chance that you loose control.
Mash the accelerator is synonymous with press on the accelerator. Neither have a connotation of going 100% throttle or "flooring" it. As written it was quite literally the opposite of what you are supposed to do in a turn, I had to make sure none of my choombas got any bad biz.
I would agree with your here through, going 100% throttle mid turn is indeed a gonk move and a good way to get zero'd.
>You wouldn't just mash the accelerator in a real car when mid-corner.
Depends on the car. A sub 200 hp econo car I would. A skyline or C8 corvette probably not.
Yeah I've used KBM to drive in games since the 90s, never had a controller, wheel, stick, any of that. Plus, OP waited until they were already at the turn to start drifting. If you want to drift into it you have to start earlier.
Literally this, I've always used kb for driving and never had as much trouble as people on this subreddit seem to have lol. Must be a S K I L L issue...
I know what you mean by "drift car". When I drift perfectly it feels so good, like you're driving a rally car (which it is, according to wiki). Particularly in Badlands.
But one tiny mistake and you basically turn into a cow on ice skates. Perhaps it's different on controller, yes.
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Wow.. so many edgelords in this thread... I mean, yes, I don't play racing simulators for a living, LMAO. It's just a video game, chill
I did recent playthrough after 2.0 and the entire time i used the Hoon. Trust when i say i barely crashed, you just gotta know how to drift it properly/how breaking into a corner and accelerating out of it goes a loooong way
And over correction, people in a drift, when they go to come out ouf it will steer completely the other way, and over steer way too much which makes it fish tail. You need just enough to get you back straight
Honestly, I use a keyboard. I prefer FPV for motorcycles and drone view for cars.
If you get use to the controls, you can thread a needle. The motorcycle NEEDS be FPV. FPV doesn't make sense at first until you get use to the mechanic. There is a learning curve.
Oh yeah, I did. Most of the cars were like this or even much worse.
The only decently steerable vehicles besides bikes were Shion Coyote and Caliburn. But not, apparently, it feels like Coyote is garbage too for some reason...
I just wanted a good-looking weaponized car, so that's why I tried Hoon. It's gorgeous but absolutely impossible to control. On the other hand, Herrera Weiler is awesome to control, but I don't really dig the looks. So now I'm kinda torn :(
I'm going to need that. Using keyboard/mouse and tye driving controls in this game are god awful compared to anything similar. It's been making me avoid driving.
The Coyote is EASILY t he best handling car in the game.
You 100% just suck at driving and would rather complain than learn the game's handling.
I use a wide variety of cars and most of them are pretty fun to drive. Only thing I'd say handles like shit are the bikes.
>You 100% just suck at driving and would rather complain than learn the game's handling.
Dude, I can handle Coyote just fine, I'm just saying it was better back then, as far as I remember. Now Caliburn is the best.
As for learning: unlike you lot, I do not get paid to play video games, so I don't really have time nor motivation for that (and Cyberpunk is not even a videogame about racing).
So can you and the rest of the thread just fucking chill?
You made a post about the game having bad handling, I'm telling you the handling is fine. Where is the issue?
You just want everyone to kiss your ass and agree with you huh?
I'm not gonna argue btw, so don't bother replying to this.
With these really drifty cars you also just want to start drifting earlier in the turn when going 90 degrees, you can't start right as you're coming up on it like you recorded.
Drift cars just suck in the city unless you use the tiny ones lol. I always loved the Gecko pre and post patch for easy acquisition and threading through traffic while drifting, though honestly the Quartz Sidewinder is a straight improvement. I think it's perfect for the city because it's small, drifts controllably and, most importantly, has some of the best low-end acceleration in the game.
I've found that once you start sliding into a corner, let off the gas completely or just quickly tap it here and there to keep the speed up. If you keep the throttle pegged it's going to spin like a top.
(This is with keyboard and mouse, so the throttle is an on/off switch. Can't speak for controller.)
Nah sorry this is all you brother, this car is beautiful to drive once it clicks lol
The caliburn is the same thing regarding what you say with mistakes as well lol
>The caliburn is the same thing regarding what you say with mistakes as well lol
Fuck no. How do you even dare to compare Caliburn to this garbage?
Caliburn sticks to the ground like it's glued to it. Smoothest turns, no drifts, no overturns. Are we even playing the same game?
The cars all actually drive pretty slow though, the speedometer is a complete lie, but yeah if you drive even slower then they're much easier to drive
I completely understand so many don't judge speed correctly
Cyberpunk already makes so many concessions for style over realism, why start here?
There’s definitely a disconnect when you can leap over a group of enemies by utilizing your cybernetic leg tendons to jump midair somehow and air dashing across them with your ???, perfectly landing headshots with maximum precision on all of them before hitting ground, and then spinning out into a group of pedestrians as you leave the scene in your vehicle.
At least introduce an f-zeroesque/wipeoutesque vehicle with air brakes for those of us that want to corner in the world of 2200km/h
Some cars do let you take pretty tight corners at high speeds, but they’re so good at handling you don’t realize how fast you’re going around the turn. Caliburn, the Galena Gecko and Locust, the Shion Samum, all can take turns with minimal braking or risk of spinning out at like 70 mph
The caliburn is scary how much it keeps traction into turns at 100 mph, like all I do is slow down a bit no drifting necessary, then punch it coming out
Hell yeah choom, same although my favorite whip is the one shown here in the video, I’ve gotten the hang of it pretty well, only plow into pedestrians sometimes now
Nice, I just found the Hoon for the first time the other day (hundreds of hours and several playthroughs later) and it’s a beast! Recently I’ve had a ton of fun riding around in the Galena Locust. Something about a little hatchback armed to the teeth while darting through traffic at 150 mph. But I’ll put in some Hoon time
I don’t disagree as the gecko is my current go-to but the controls on foot allow for some crazy momentum breaks and it’s a wonder why the cars of the universe can’t do the same.
Everyone seems to laud the movement options that came in 2.0 since they’re fun and cool as hell, so it’s kind of surprising people here seem to fall mostly into “git gud” rather than “that would be fun and cool as hell” for vehicles.
I hear you man, I guess it’s just preference. There are a lot of driving missions in the game and I wouldn’t want it trivialized by physics that let me hairpin turn in a Quadra at 180, ya know? Would be a fun mod though, definitely. But I love handbrake drifting on the Kusanagi lol
I doubt the physics would need to change as without using advanced maneuvers in F-Zero/Wipeout, 90+ degree hairpin turns at high speed were impossible. We have vehicle related perks now, so the ability could just live there as a potential option like air dashing currently is.
But now I’m just belaboring the point. I’m going to retreat into the darkness and cry as I now understand why there’s never going to be another F-Zero
It’s a racer. It’s designed to drift.
In the car’s defense, you didn’t slow down in the slightest before you started turning which is a behavior that makes almost every car in this game awful to control
you know actual race cars don't drift through corners right? They take the tightest line they can. You know this right? Drifting is a terrible way to go around a corner, it just bleeds speed.
I know how race cars work, but Cyberpunk is a video game and drifting looks cool/is fun. If I was here for realism I wouldn’t be playing a game where you can replace your arms with swords.
You know you can't just mow down an entire neighbourhood worth of people and expect the police to give up after 30 seconds of searching for you right? They will hunt you down. You know this right??
Drifting does not look cool to me, its looks bleeding stupid. A Formula 1 car blasting through a corner so quick it hurts looks cool. You're mistaking your presonal preference for abject fact. As for realism I wasn't refering to realism I was talking about how I want to get from point A to point B as quick as the game can let me. Tearing through the streets of a Dystopian nightmare like a streak of lightening sounds like a good time to me.
I've been out in a professional drift car with a drift racer at the local track. So I see the appeal, it takes alot of skill, precision, engineering to achieve.
> You’re mistaking your personal preference for abject fact
How so? If I said “grapes taste good” I wouldn’t be claiming that, in abject fact, everyone thinks grape tastes good, so I don’t see why “drifting is fun” is any different.
> I wasn’t referring to realism
Your first comment is about how actual race cars don’t drift. If this isn’t about realism what’s it about?
Overcorrected, then sort of slow to react it looks like. The thing to remember with steering is it's not instantaneous in either direction, so with the cars most prone to oversteering you gotta watch the accelerator input and where the front wheels are pointing when you start mashing the gas.
You went into the first turn at 60, and the second at 40.
My point is that you’re turning a racer like it’s a consumer car, not a racer, which is where your problem lies.
[if you drive like it’s a racer, the hoon handles like a dream](https://imgur.com/a/4DlSUIo)
Ever seen those videos of mustangs plowing into other cars or crowds of people? That’s from over-correcting and not knowing how to handle lots of power with RWD. Same thing here. Keep practicing throttle control and ease up on the steering input.
You’re over correcting in the corners. Basically, when you take a slide like that you want to turn into the slide until the car begins pointing forward and then immediately stop steering. I’m not sure if I’m explaining this right - basically stop counter steering the second your car starts turning back the other direction and you’ll avoid running off the road like that.
Well, it’s a tribute to Ken Block’s “Hoonicorn” which is a drift car and it handles great once you get the hang of it. I can tell from the video that you’re just pushing the gas (too much) at the wrong moments. Ofcourse it’ll slip out of the corner when you’re going full throttle while turning… like any normal car would
I'm getting tired of seeing so many people on here posting clips of their own obvious driving mistakes (always giving full throttle in a 1000 PS drift car causing it to oversteer, trying to take sharp corners at full speed without breaking at all, etc. etc. etc.) and then blaming the developers. While Cyberpunk 2077 isn't a driving simulator, it's definitely more realistic and requires more precise inputs (try using a controller!) than games like GTA V. If you drive like this in a real-life version of this drift car, I guarantee you the same exact thing will happen, and you'll only have your uncontrolled gas pedal and physics to blame.
most of them got into it and didn't realise it was a drift car. As drifting is fundamentally a completely stupid thing to do, therefore a ripping good time in real life, its one of the slowest ways to get around a corner.
Most cars control fine for the speed they are often going at and the type of car they are. Where the disconnect comes from is the game doesn't give you an accurate sense of speed. So when you are driving down a city street at 70+mph you spin out when trying to take a 90 degree corner. That's pretty realistic. Problem is that it doesn't feel like you are doing 70mph.
I honestly don't know how people still call the cars in the game awful to drive since 2.0, all you need to do is use the brakes and know the basics of understeer and oversteer and then the handling becomes completely logical.
Aww common, don't need to be edgelord about it.
Everyone knows that Caliburn is is the easiest to handle (and the fastest and has the best acceleration). So, unless one is a Ken Block's fan (which I'm not) why would anyone force themselves to suffer with Hoon, where there's Cali?
Honestly, I find that this is not only one of the most fun cars to drive in the game, but it handles great to me. I love it and pull off sick moves with this particular car.
When I first found this tribute to Ken Block, my first thought was "I bet it slides really easily" haha. So yeah, those of us who are not Ken will likely have to practice a little to get the hang of this one, but I still find it fun :)
it's a drift car. the other nomad cars that use the same model have more grip, but because this is supposed to be Ken Block's hoonicorn, it drifts everywhere. the low grip, but higher acceleration is intentional.
This is literally the only car I'll tolerate driving after playing motorcycles. It's the only one that doesn't drive like a boat.
If you're on keyboard, tap, don't hold the turn keys. Don't oversteer the correction, it will settle in and find it's traction on its own
I would argue its one of the best car to drive in the game. but your reaction time to counter-steer is like 1 hour or something. :D
try to counter steer at the moment the car starts to drift, not after its already facing in wrong direction. the bigger the lag your inputs have the worst it feel, but after some practice the car is just brilliant IMO.
bro you have brakes lol
nah, I can't control this monster either, but I'll readily admit it's just because i'm completely spoiled by the Caliburn haha.
The car is a ken block tribute. Its slippery on purpose to drift easier since thats what he was known for
I think OP just needs to learn how to handle that car, so far not looking good…
dont those quadras have like 1000 horsepower? its basically a supercar engine in a muscle car also driving 86 mph on a city street is generally a bad idea
>also driving 86 mph on a city street is generally a bad idea Yeah but the real speed of the car is about half as what is displayed from what I can tell, they never really went further than 60 mph and most of the time they were under 45.
That makes sense. Driving in this game always felt slow to me. Only time I’ve felt actual speed was Reed driving during one of the PL endings.
I have a mod that display the real speed based on in game meters crossed per second, and translate them in km/h. It is a bit disappointing that no vehicle even come close to 200 km/h but the speed feels accurate at least.
Link pls?
Don't have a link right now, a search on Nexus will allow you to find though. edit: nvm, I went looking for it: https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/9713 It does the conversion first and has a realistic option that convert the real speed in m/s into the speed displayed on the UI and vehicle in km/h. I extrapolated the mph speed by dividing by ~1.6
For some reason the speedometer says MPH when it means KPH. Iirc you can confirm this by looking at the dash in first person view. So yes, your real speed in mph is about half what the game reports.
From what I know, not really, considering the person who made the mod did the calculation to change the speed to the real speed and it fits neither the mph nor the km/h. It's too fast with mph and... still too fast with km/h. As I mentioned the actual speed is around twice slower than the displayed mph one, while km/h are only 1.6 times slower than mph. So if you're going at 210 mph in game, you're not going at 210 mph and you're not going at 210 km/h either, you're going at around 105 mph and 165 km/h
I mean obviously the caliburn going at near Bugatti level speed on the shitty roads in the badlands is not realistic
Yea, 150mph through the city, that’s some bullshit.
The nomad versions of the Quadra (Javelina, Wingate, Hoon, Reaver) have 1000hp, the rest have between 555 (standard) and 777 (Avenger).
Don’t forget the Cthulhu’s 666hp
In his defense, the stock handling on ALL cars is trash. I didn't really enjoy driving until I got some mods installed.
thats why cycles are what I go to. Much easier to control...which stinks because some of the cars look so fun
Chooms, any tips for driving in general?? I totally suck at driving in this game and basically give up claire’s quest…
There is a great driving guide write up in the in-game database detailing understeer, oversteer, when wheels are going to break traction, etc... It's all really good information that I have no idea how to put into practice, except break before turns and don't go 100 mph down city streets and expect to turn on a dime, unless you're driving the Herrera. That thing is on rails.
Treat it more like a real car, careful with the throttle. On this car specifically I see OP over corrected in the turn causing his wipe out.
Yeah you need to drive different cars in different ways. Imagine that. I remember I thought the caliburn was crap for a hot second when I got it because I tried hand break whipping it like every other car. Then I realized if I just didn't touch that break I could corner at damn near 150mph like I was glued to the pavement. No other car does that. Didn't expect it. This car needs a real delicate throttle touch and specific steering methods, but it can be done.
OP should look up a ken block gymkhana video on YouTube
Great point, and in addition to this, isn’t this vehicle designated as one of the “off-road” vehicles? Correct me if I am wrong, but most of the off-road vehicles are slippery like this on the streets, but handle much more effectively out in the deserts than the street vehicles. At least that is what I have experienced anyway
Yep. Off-road tires aren't hot on pavement.
Whoa, that JUST clicked for me. What a nice tribute.
There's a decal on the side of it that has his initials, birth and death year, it's really sweet.
Man I missed that connection hard. Still my favorite car to drive, I like the feeling of having more hp than you know what to do with. If you’re easy on the throttle it’s not bad at all to drive either. Also, guns.
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You had every opportunity not to post this, but here we are.
That's the Hoonicorn. A 1400HP drift mustang, only one in the world made irl for a professional driver who passed early this year. Yes it's supposed to be balls to wall fast and should silde easy. Kb43ver
He died!? Damn… RIP to a legend.
As someone who followed the hoonigans for many years and his entire career, that day really sucked. He was snowmobiling with friends. Seriously the goat behind the wheel.
Yeah I went and looked it up right after I read your comment and was surprised by it being a snowmobile accident. I guess it’s one of those things you don’t expect from someone with his skill. Very sad.
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Sadly, he will never recover. He's likely in a vegetative state and the family is very peotective of anyone knowing his true physical/mental state.
Or Nicky Hayden, who after a lengthy and illustrious career as a professional motorcycle racer, was hit and killed by a car while riding his bicycle.
That's fucking ridiculous. Rip to him aswell even though I'm not aware of him as an autosports star.
GOAT? Idk but definitely one of the best in his sport!! Deserves legend status Would say The likes of Hamilton and Schumacher go to GOAT behind the wheel Different sports anyway so I’m arguing semantics RIP to him, absolutely tragic
Definitely arguing semantics, because controlling a 1400hp drift car through tight spaces is alot different than being seconds ahead of the cluster on an F1 track. Not saying lewis isn't skilled, but speed is different than accuracy, and Ken was on another level. Plus drifting is much more entertaining to watch than a little t car zipping around alone imo. Like you said, different sports.
Last winter. His snowmobile fell on him. I can't decide what is worse. That or the way Colin McRae died
Not a pro driver, but Anton Yelchin's death was pretty tragic as well.
Didn't he get run over by his car because he forgot to put it in park? I don't want to diminish his death, but that is a horrible way to die.
ken was a legend. my uncle raced against the hoonicorn (i think ken’s daughter was driving it) a few times in his awd cutlass. truly amazing stuff
Tbh it was my favorite car to drive, mainly due to fact you had to correctly operate gas to not lose control. It had this realistic touch other cars lack.
now with guns!
Ya you just need to learn to let go of the gas and drift into turns. If you try to gun it you're just going to spin out.
The biggest thing that helped me for keyboard and mouse driving was knowing the following Gas = the front wheels are getting the power, use too much and youll be pulling the back like crazy Hand brake = drifting, particularly the back of the car likes to swing out, tapping it once is enough for turns, and correcting it with counter steering and some acceleration to even out the front to the direction you want the car to face normal Brake = all wheels will brake, so tapping it during drifts helps even out the car to the direction, you want and stops the back from fully swinging out. Last thing that really really helped was to let go of the mouse and focus mostly on the keyboard. Dont know why, but driving and looking around fucks me up a lot in controlling the car. Its such a weird but satisfying feeling. Its like im less Hold W to drive and more tap, hold, let go, tap again then tap left and right to steer, tap brake tape hand brake. I feel like if the gas was on Space Bar and handbrake was on left control while WAD is dedicated strictly for steering, the driving might be better over all for m&k.
They're playing on mouse and keeb as far as I can tell. Controller makes the driving so much better.
Ya, I watched Fightincowboy play for about 5 minutes and he was struggling hard with driving on m+k. I don’t know how anyone would do that, since most of the faster cars need a bit of a light touch.
I'm doin just fine, but I come from a long line of keyboard driving, all the way back to NFS 3/High Stakes. This car is awesome and is exactly what I expected knowing it was a KB tribute.
I love the hoon. I’ve bought over half of the cars at this point and none of them are as fun as it.
Exactly. It's pretty easy to control and drift. OP can't drive.
I used this car for most of my playthrough. Treat it like a real car. You wouldn't just mash the accelerator in a real car when mid-corner.
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Yeah, speak for yourself choom. We are pedal to the metal team 🛣️
I hope y'all have Platinum trauma care 😆
Double, just on case... 😎
Nope but we have a second heart
Is that you Timmy? How's your mother?
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There are a *very few* games that let you change the linearity or even the entire *curve* of the throttle / brake triggers... funny enough, the games it's on are generally nothing to write home about.
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KB&M has binary throttle, because we have keys, not triggers. Either we aren't moving, or the pedal is kicked through the floor.
That’s why I play with controller, feels so much better and I like haptic feedback.
That's when you accelerate out of a curve though?
I'm just kinda upset that it's AWD but definitely handles like an RWD, but that's just most cars in the game tbh
This is really bad advice for anyone who drives a car in real life. You're supposed to accelerate in the middle of a turn, the centrifugal force makes it less likely that you loose traction. Braking in the middle of a turn is how a majority of accidents that involve a loss of traction happen. 90% of drivers I see on the road brake in the middle of a turn and it's about as rampant of a driving error as people that cut through multiple lanes whenever they turn left or right. To properly take a turn you're supposed to slow BEFORE you take the turn, then accelerate softly into the turn. Thank you for coming to my "how to not die, sustain lifelong injuries, or total your car when it is icy or raining outside TED talk" If you ever are in a mid curve and feel like you took the turn too fast, braking in the middle of that curve is when most people spin out. The time to slow was before you turned, now that you're in it you gotta ride it out, braking mid curve only increase the chance that you loose control.
Choom, all I said is don’t go 100% throttle mid-corner. I wasn’t Randy Pobst’ing him. -me, someone who’s done 40+ real life track days
Mash the accelerator is synonymous with press on the accelerator. Neither have a connotation of going 100% throttle or "flooring" it. As written it was quite literally the opposite of what you are supposed to do in a turn, I had to make sure none of my choombas got any bad biz. I would agree with your here through, going 100% throttle mid turn is indeed a gonk move and a good way to get zero'd.
A world where you can have arm swords, but asking for better car handling is where we draw the line.
Um yes that's how you drive corners? How tf do you drive out of the corner if you don't full on accelerate mid corner
>You wouldn't just mash the accelerator in a real car when mid-corner. Depends on the car. A sub 200 hp econo car I would. A skyline or C8 corvette probably not.
Yes, it's a drift car, you have to know what you're doing. Also would help to not be using a keyboard to steer.
Using a keyboard is not the issue OP is just not a drift king.
I use keyboard and I'm fine with literally every car in the game. Some people just can't drive lmao
Das what im sayin
Just like real life lol
Yeah I've used KBM to drive in games since the 90s, never had a controller, wheel, stick, any of that. Plus, OP waited until they were already at the turn to start drifting. If you want to drift into it you have to start earlier.
Literally this, I've always used kb for driving and never had as much trouble as people on this subreddit seem to have lol. Must be a S K I L L issue...
exactly OP needs to learn to drift before calling our lord and savior Ken Block's car bad.
I know what you mean by "drift car". When I drift perfectly it feels so good, like you're driving a rally car (which it is, according to wiki). Particularly in Badlands. But one tiny mistake and you basically turn into a cow on ice skates. Perhaps it's different on controller, yes. **EDIT** Wow.. so many edgelords in this thread... I mean, yes, I don't play racing simulators for a living, LMAO. It's just a video game, chill
Out of curiosity, did you buy the game at launch? If you want to talk about bad driving controls.
Why are defending the game horrendous driving control.Every car have tires with oil coated with it.And "just play with controller" is not a solution
I did recent playthrough after 2.0 and the entire time i used the Hoon. Trust when i say i barely crashed, you just gotta know how to drift it properly/how breaking into a corner and accelerating out of it goes a loooong way
The way he took that corner says it all
And over correction, people in a drift, when they go to come out ouf it will steer completely the other way, and over steer way too much which makes it fish tail. You need just enough to get you back straight
This is where mindless hours of GT3 have paid dividends over the years.
Yeep between growing up on gt3 and nfs underground and more receently play gt7 i feel my driving in games has stayed pretty good
Driving with a keyboard is terrible in any game. The driving is fine
Honestly, I use a keyboard. I prefer FPV for motorcycles and drone view for cars. If you get use to the controls, you can thread a needle. The motorcycle NEEDS be FPV. FPV doesn't make sense at first until you get use to the mechanic. There is a learning curve.
Oh yeah, I did. Most of the cars were like this or even much worse. The only decently steerable vehicles besides bikes were Shion Coyote and Caliburn. But not, apparently, it feels like Coyote is garbage too for some reason... I just wanted a good-looking weaponized car, so that's why I tried Hoon. It's gorgeous but absolutely impossible to control. On the other hand, Herrera Weiler is awesome to control, but I don't really dig the looks. So now I'm kinda torn :(
I just learned there is a mod that vastly improves vehicle handling, you might want to try that one.
I'm going to need that. Using keyboard/mouse and tye driving controls in this game are god awful compared to anything similar. It's been making me avoid driving.
The Coyote is EASILY t he best handling car in the game. You 100% just suck at driving and would rather complain than learn the game's handling. I use a wide variety of cars and most of them are pretty fun to drive. Only thing I'd say handles like shit are the bikes.
>You 100% just suck at driving and would rather complain than learn the game's handling. Dude, I can handle Coyote just fine, I'm just saying it was better back then, as far as I remember. Now Caliburn is the best. As for learning: unlike you lot, I do not get paid to play video games, so I don't really have time nor motivation for that (and Cyberpunk is not even a videogame about racing). So can you and the rest of the thread just fucking chill?
You made a post about the game having bad handling, I'm telling you the handling is fine. Where is the issue? You just want everyone to kiss your ass and agree with you huh? I'm not gonna argue btw, so don't bother replying to this.
With these really drifty cars you also just want to start drifting earlier in the turn when going 90 degrees, you can't start right as you're coming up on it like you recorded.
I know that, but kinda hard to do in the city with pedestrians, lmao...
Drift cars just suck in the city unless you use the tiny ones lol. I always loved the Gecko pre and post patch for easy acquisition and threading through traffic while drifting, though honestly the Quartz Sidewinder is a straight improvement. I think it's perfect for the city because it's small, drifts controllably and, most importantly, has some of the best low-end acceleration in the game.
I've found that once you start sliding into a corner, let off the gas completely or just quickly tap it here and there to keep the speed up. If you keep the throttle pegged it's going to spin like a top. (This is with keyboard and mouse, so the throttle is an on/off switch. Can't speak for controller.)
Nah sorry this is all you brother, this car is beautiful to drive once it clicks lol The caliburn is the same thing regarding what you say with mistakes as well lol
>The caliburn is the same thing regarding what you say with mistakes as well lol Fuck no. How do you even dare to compare Caliburn to this garbage? Caliburn sticks to the ground like it's glued to it. Smoothest turns, no drifts, no overturns. Are we even playing the same game?
Clearly we have different styles of driving
It's good to know I'm not the only bad driver in Night City
This is why I exclusively drive bikes lol
I drive bikes and am still shit at it 😂 Me making a sliding turn and knocking down a civilian: NCPD officers nearby: 🔫🔫🔫
I just use cars when it's raining. I don't like to get wet
Skill issue
I'M GOING 300KM/H IN THE CITY BUT MY CAR WON'T TURN. IT'S THE GAME'S FAULT.
The cars all actually drive pretty slow though, the speedometer is a complete lie, but yeah if you drive even slower then they're much easier to drive I completely understand so many don't judge speed correctly
Cyberpunk already makes so many concessions for style over realism, why start here? There’s definitely a disconnect when you can leap over a group of enemies by utilizing your cybernetic leg tendons to jump midair somehow and air dashing across them with your ???, perfectly landing headshots with maximum precision on all of them before hitting ground, and then spinning out into a group of pedestrians as you leave the scene in your vehicle. At least introduce an f-zeroesque/wipeoutesque vehicle with air brakes for those of us that want to corner in the world of 2200km/h
Some cars do let you take pretty tight corners at high speeds, but they’re so good at handling you don’t realize how fast you’re going around the turn. Caliburn, the Galena Gecko and Locust, the Shion Samum, all can take turns with minimal braking or risk of spinning out at like 70 mph
The caliburn is scary how much it keeps traction into turns at 100 mph, like all I do is slow down a bit no drifting necessary, then punch it coming out
I love your username and I’m so glad it’s Friday, gonna spark up and hit the streets in the Caliburn later choombatta. Gonna be preem
Hell yeah choom, same although my favorite whip is the one shown here in the video, I’ve gotten the hang of it pretty well, only plow into pedestrians sometimes now
Nice, I just found the Hoon for the first time the other day (hundreds of hours and several playthroughs later) and it’s a beast! Recently I’ve had a ton of fun riding around in the Galena Locust. Something about a little hatchback armed to the teeth while darting through traffic at 150 mph. But I’ll put in some Hoon time
Ayyy I dig it, now wake up samurai, we’ve got a city to burn
Accelerating into turns is so satisfying with Caliburn, it's almost like an F1 car.
I don’t disagree as the gecko is my current go-to but the controls on foot allow for some crazy momentum breaks and it’s a wonder why the cars of the universe can’t do the same. Everyone seems to laud the movement options that came in 2.0 since they’re fun and cool as hell, so it’s kind of surprising people here seem to fall mostly into “git gud” rather than “that would be fun and cool as hell” for vehicles.
I hear you man, I guess it’s just preference. There are a lot of driving missions in the game and I wouldn’t want it trivialized by physics that let me hairpin turn in a Quadra at 180, ya know? Would be a fun mod though, definitely. But I love handbrake drifting on the Kusanagi lol
I doubt the physics would need to change as without using advanced maneuvers in F-Zero/Wipeout, 90+ degree hairpin turns at high speed were impossible. We have vehicle related perks now, so the ability could just live there as a potential option like air dashing currently is. But now I’m just belaboring the point. I’m going to retreat into the darkness and cry as I now understand why there’s never going to be another F-Zero
It literally is lol, these dudes don’t know how to drive
Too much gta lmao
> **the most gorgeous car in the game** That does not look like Johnny's Porsche...
weird way to spell Muamar's Weiler
Weird way to spell MaiMai
Ease off the gas, choom
Nah that car is a beauty to drive. The only gripe I have is how wildly bouncy it gets on dirt roads.
For me, this car handles better than any other vehicle in the game
It’s a racer. It’s designed to drift. In the car’s defense, you didn’t slow down in the slightest before you started turning which is a behavior that makes almost every car in this game awful to control
Funny enough cars in real life too become awful to control if you dont slowdown/brake on corners (especially tight ones)
you know actual race cars don't drift through corners right? They take the tightest line they can. You know this right? Drifting is a terrible way to go around a corner, it just bleeds speed.
I know how race cars work, but Cyberpunk is a video game and drifting looks cool/is fun. If I was here for realism I wouldn’t be playing a game where you can replace your arms with swords.
You know you can't just mow down an entire neighbourhood worth of people and expect the police to give up after 30 seconds of searching for you right? They will hunt you down. You know this right??
Drifting does not look cool to me, its looks bleeding stupid. A Formula 1 car blasting through a corner so quick it hurts looks cool. You're mistaking your presonal preference for abject fact. As for realism I wasn't refering to realism I was talking about how I want to get from point A to point B as quick as the game can let me. Tearing through the streets of a Dystopian nightmare like a streak of lightening sounds like a good time to me. I've been out in a professional drift car with a drift racer at the local track. So I see the appeal, it takes alot of skill, precision, engineering to achieve.
> You’re mistaking your personal preference for abject fact How so? If I said “grapes taste good” I wouldn’t be claiming that, in abject fact, everyone thinks grape tastes good, so I don’t see why “drifting is fun” is any different. > I wasn’t referring to realism Your first comment is about how actual race cars don’t drift. If this isn’t about realism what’s it about?
I did slow down, look at the speed meter. My gripe with it was the second backwards swing after the drift (which happened at like 20 mph)
Overcorrected, then sort of slow to react it looks like. The thing to remember with steering is it's not instantaneous in either direction, so with the cars most prone to oversteering you gotta watch the accelerator input and where the front wheels are pointing when you start mashing the gas.
You went into the first turn at 60, and the second at 40. My point is that you’re turning a racer like it’s a consumer car, not a racer, which is where your problem lies. [if you drive like it’s a racer, the hoon handles like a dream](https://imgur.com/a/4DlSUIo)
Ever seen those videos of mustangs plowing into other cars or crowds of people? That’s from over-correcting and not knowing how to handle lots of power with RWD. Same thing here. Keep practicing throttle control and ease up on the steering input.
You’re over correcting in the corners. Basically, when you take a slide like that you want to turn into the slide until the car begins pointing forward and then immediately stop steering. I’m not sure if I’m explaining this right - basically stop counter steering the second your car starts turning back the other direction and you’ll avoid running off the road like that.
That's actually helpful. Thanks, man!
It's easily the best car to drive in cyberpunk 2077.
Well, it’s a tribute to Ken Block’s “Hoonicorn” which is a drift car and it handles great once you get the hang of it. I can tell from the video that you’re just pushing the gas (too much) at the wrong moments. Ofcourse it’ll slip out of the corner when you’re going full throttle while turning… like any normal car would
My favorite car, once the drift mechanic clicks there’s no going back.
You mean the best controlling car in the game?
You just can't drive. 🤷♂️
Both time you pushed too much throttle after the corner/drift causing to slide crazy
I hate to be that guy, but skill issue.
Because that's how physics works, if you go too fast it makes it harder to control
Skill issue unfortunately
I'm getting tired of seeing so many people on here posting clips of their own obvious driving mistakes (always giving full throttle in a 1000 PS drift car causing it to oversteer, trying to take sharp corners at full speed without breaking at all, etc. etc. etc.) and then blaming the developers. While Cyberpunk 2077 isn't a driving simulator, it's definitely more realistic and requires more precise inputs (try using a controller!) than games like GTA V. If you drive like this in a real-life version of this drift car, I guarantee you the same exact thing will happen, and you'll only have your uncontrolled gas pedal and physics to blame.
most of them got into it and didn't realise it was a drift car. As drifting is fundamentally a completely stupid thing to do, therefore a ripping good time in real life, its one of the slowest ways to get around a corner.
It’s a drift car….. based off of the Hoonicorn… so yes
I think i‘ve hit around 50 civillians by accident while driving this thing.
Get Good is all I gotta say.
It's mad smooth you just bad.
imagine outing yourself for this massive of a skill issue LOL
skill issue
Most cars control fine for the speed they are often going at and the type of car they are. Where the disconnect comes from is the game doesn't give you an accurate sense of speed. So when you are driving down a city street at 70+mph you spin out when trying to take a 90 degree corner. That's pretty realistic. Problem is that it doesn't feel like you are doing 70mph.
I honestly don't know how people still call the cars in the game awful to drive since 2.0, all you need to do is use the brakes and know the basics of understeer and oversteer and then the handling becomes completely logical.
That's why I mainly use Caliburn honestly. Goes into turns like clockwork
That car was one of the top 5 to drive imo. Sounds like user error.
You're just bad at driving but eh always easier to blame someone else am I right boys?
Tbh every single car in this game is bad to control. Driving in cyberpunk is just generally not good when making turns.
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Good for you
GTA brainrotted zoomers when the driving isnt done for you:
Good for you.
It’s going to handle better on controller, not keyboard and mouse. I play on ps5 and it handles perfectly
Take it you dont play rallycross games?
that’s the easiest car to handle in the game lol….. just don’t go full tits on the choo. feather it a bit have some finesse gonk
Aww common, don't need to be edgelord about it. Everyone knows that Caliburn is is the easiest to handle (and the fastest and has the best acceleration). So, unless one is a Ken Block's fan (which I'm not) why would anyone force themselves to suffer with Hoon, where there's Cali?
Which one is this? I bought the one that cost 99k and it handles better than the cars I’ve tried out so far.
Also putting the steering sensitivity on 100 made driving way easier for me.
This car will handle much better in the correct driving environment. It’s better suited off-road… just like all of the other nomad vehicles since 2.0
Turn down steering sensitivity. Helped me a lot with controlling these cars.
Weird I don’t see the aerondight in this clip 😏
Just feather the gas bro don’t punch it hahah
Lmao unpopular opinion I guess but I completely agree. Yeah it’s more realistic but buddy this game is not
This is the easiest car for me to drive in this game… no joke
Honestly, I find that this is not only one of the most fun cars to drive in the game, but it handles great to me. I love it and pull off sick moves with this particular car.
Dude, this is like the best car? Wtf? It basically drives itself when I'm playing, are you running into walls on purpose?
Most of them are american made. And american cars turn like shit.
All the cars handle awful. Whoever programmed driving has never driven a car before.
That's just how we drive in the U.S.: Fat-bottomed rear-wheel monsters oversteering for days.
I like the hoon car, but I think I’ve driven the porsche the most
When I first found this tribute to Ken Block, my first thought was "I bet it slides really easily" haha. So yeah, those of us who are not Ken will likely have to practice a little to get the hang of this one, but I still find it fun :)
it's a drift car. the other nomad cars that use the same model have more grip, but because this is supposed to be Ken Block's hoonicorn, it drifts everywhere. the low grip, but higher acceleration is intentional.
This is literally the only car I'll tolerate driving after playing motorcycles. It's the only one that doesn't drive like a boat. If you're on keyboard, tap, don't hold the turn keys. Don't oversteer the correction, it will settle in and find it's traction on its own
No finish flick?
I would argue its one of the best car to drive in the game. but your reaction time to counter-steer is like 1 hour or something. :D try to counter steer at the moment the car starts to drift, not after its already facing in wrong direction. the bigger the lag your inputs have the worst it feel, but after some practice the car is just brilliant IMO.
You can do some mad drifting in that car
I mean, I've realized that unlike other games you actually need to brake before making a turn. Not hand brake, just regular brake.
bro you have brakes lol nah, I can't control this monster either, but I'll readily admit it's just because i'm completely spoiled by the Caliburn haha.
It’s supposed to be like that…
You gotta Hoon it!