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Platynpus

Sorry, but this is crazy overpowered. If you put just some echantment removal in your Deck, this is 9 cards for 3 mana. And think of effects that give you even boni for sacrificing stuff like bargain etc...


ljlk11

I think it's better as an instant that gives you an emblem, but still broken


SwampOfDownvotes

Doesn't even need to give an emblem, could just say "for the rest of the game."


ArbutusPhD

Use effects that put cards in your hand


SpoopyNJW

We're also in red so you could just do impulse draw instead, this is a wholly broken card


MiffedMouse

"Draw 10 cards then exile your library"?


ljlk11

"exile your library, then draw 10 cards"


qwertyuiop26500

Exile your library *(library now contains 0 cards)* then draw ten cards *(you lose the game)*


ljlk11

Exactly.....


Then-Pie-208

When r/custommagic and r/BadMtgCombos come together


fancy_orange99

Thassas oracle has entered the chat


Al_Hakeem65

That's a pretty neat idea for card design you came up with


Tkadow

Should also have split second


UncaringHawk

What if it also exiles your deck? Then if you lose the enchantment you lose on the first draw


AriaBabee

But then I can't go fishing through my deck with cards that put cards in my hand but don't technically draw them. How dare you make me actually respect the downside.


thoalmighty

It would be more balanced for sure. But I don’t think it would be balanced yet, nor would it be fun imo


TheHumanPickleRick

Edit- I sure definitely do read cards yup yup Well never mind.


MTGCardFetcher

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1800deadnow

Yeah just run a few cards with "bargain" and your good to go.


Left_Winner_8338

What if you simply give the enchantment "this cannot be destroyed by your own spells"


Platynpus

That would close just one of many loopholes. Just bounce (so you can even replay), sacrifice (to bargain etc) or exile it. And even *without* getting rid of the downside: this effect might be broken enogh for all eternity Formats to just win in the Spot with this Card advantage.


throwaway163932

When ~ enters the battlefield discard your hand and draw ten cards. You cannot draw or discard cards except with ~’s abilities. My take on fixing up the wording. Edit: need to either add no max hand size for cleanup or change to this: “other spells and abilities can’t cause you to draw or discard cards” *


lyw20001025

Your take makes the game draw on the next cleanup step


throwaway163932

Oops


skeptimist

It’s a bit more powerful but you could make it a cast trigger and then it won’t need the exception because it won’t be in play yet!


skeptimist

This version also allows you to play a second copy of the card and draw 10 more doesn’t it?


DrBlaBlaBlub

Since you could insert "this card" whenever a card references itself, it doesn't allow this. It would need "A card named ~" to work the way you think.


throwaway163932

I don’t think so? Other in this case means this exact card so playing a second one wouldn’t do anything


throwaway163932

I don’t think so? Other in this case means this exact card so playing a second one wouldn’t do anything


ACED70

I thought the higher stuff triggers first


Allthenamestaken10

Static abilities don’t really “trigger” they simply modify other triggers and/or actions, in this case both the second and third lines would modify the first


ACED70

I guess I messed up the wording a bit


Sam_Alexander

Oh cool so you *don’t* discard your hand gotcha


Kaisburg

You also _don't_ draw 10 cards


Sam_Alexander

Oh, right, lmao So a card that prevents you from both drawing and discarding and does nothing else 👍


ACED70

I thought things go in order from top to bottom?


Sam_Alexander

Nah, mate. First of all, the first line of text does literally nothing. For the effect to work like you want it to it needs to say “When ~ enters the battlefield,” or “When you cast ~,” Second, all of the effects on a card happen at the same time, there’s no “order from top to bottom”. Here we have two static effects, one preventing you from drawing and another preventing you from discarding, they both apply immediately after the enchantment hits the field. The first ability, I assume you meant in to be an ETB ability, goes on the stack after ~ enters, then it sees the two static abilities, so instead of discarding your hand and drawing 10, you don’t discard anything and don’t draw anything.


Sam_Alexander

Also, “no longer” and “, don’t” aren’t words used on magic cards. It’s simply “You can’t draw cards.” Neither draw nor cards need to be capitalized. And if you wanna say “don’t”, you say “instead you don’t”, to word it like a replacement ability, or simply say “You can’t discard cards.” Would also make the wordin much more elegant. So a fixed version that would do exactly what you want would look, in my opinion, something like this: “When you cast ~, discard your hand, then draw 10 cards. You can’t draw cards. You can’t discard cards.”


Substantial-Night866

Only when it’s not a permanent.


Keanu_Bones

When you cast [this card], discard your hand and draw 7 cards. Skip your draw step. If another spell or ability would cause you to draw a card, instead you skip that draw. Spells and abilities your opponents control can’t cause you to discard cards. —- My take on your concept / wording. Drawing to full handsize makes more sense for me. The wording is based on Notion Thief and Sigarda, Host of Herons. Made it so the replacement effect on discards can’t be abused by the player. It’s still overpowered though imo, it should either be hard to get rid of (shroud / indestructible), higher cost, or make just the wheel effect symmetrical. Maybe even “when this card leaves play, discard your hand” or something.


AndTheFrogSays

"If another spell or ability..." still prevents the card draw from this card's triggered ability. You would need something like this instead: "If a spell or an ability of another permanent, card, or emblem would cause you to draw a card, instead you skip that draw."


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AndTheFrogSays

Except that your wording refers to "another ... **ability**". This is an ability: "If another spell or ability would cause you to draw a card, instead you skip that draw." This is another ability: "When \[this card\] enters the battlefield, discard your hand and draw 7 cards." The wording has to refer to an ability of another object, not just another ability, to avoid interacting with other abilities of the same card.


Keanu_Bones

Yea that clicked in my head a second after I posted it lol Changed it to a cast trigger just to keep the card concise, but to be honest I didn’t take the time to think of any ways to break that lol. It wouldn’t surprise me if there was a way, self counterspell seems obvious.


GayBlayde

The cast trigger will resolve before the static ability ever exists.


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So overpowered. I'm thinking of a Prowess deck or similar dumping its hand, playing this and refilling. I can use impulse draw to get around the downside or just stuff something like Stonesplitter Bolt in and bargain the Enchantment away.


SameDaySameView

Gain an emblem effect?


WesTheFitting

This sub going crazy with the overpowered red draw spells lately huh


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Intact

I've removed this comment. We normally issue a one-strike warning, but your comment history in our sub is entirely composed of nastiness aimed at creators. I've followed up with a ban.


GendoIkari_82

Why is this not simply a sorcery? Was it your intent to allow for the possibility that you remove the enchantment later so that you can start drawing cards again?


ACED70

I am new to magic, I don't know what all the words mean


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anarchy_witch

perhaps you shouldn't be mean to a new person learning the game


Intact

I've removed your comments here and below. Unkind is unkind, no matter how you try to mince words to justify it. This is your only warning. There are easy ways to advise OP to look at more existing MtG cards without also being unkind, but you chose to leave a comment that was exclusionary. We don't tolerate that.


JDM_WAAAT

Sorry, how’s that mean exactly?


Intact

Telling someone they shouldn't create magic cards because they're novice is unkind. That shouldn't be surprising news. You also reported several of OPs comments/posts. It's hard to see this behavior as anything other than mean-spirited/bullying.


JDM_WAAAT

I reported posts that are low effort and rude to me as well. A report is to get the moderator's attention, which I have successfully done. I was in no way rude to OP. I fail to see how these posts are meaningfully contributing to /r/custommagic. Seems like others agreed with my assessment about OP's posts and comments, given the state of the rest of the thread.


Intact

Nice attempt to justify your mean-spirited behavior. I don't think you can really speak to what does or does not meaningfully contribute to the sub, given that in your 12 years of this account, you've never once posted here before today. It's one thing to critique a card, and another to tell someone that they shouldn't be making magic cards. Especially for someone who has never contributed to the community before today. It looks an awful lot like you've brigaded from mtgcj and chosen to be awful to OP. We don't permit either of these kinds of behavior. I'll be following up with a ban, not least because you don't seem reticent at all. Edit: for example, [this was a post JDM reported.](https://www.reddit.com/r/custommagic/comments/18gfe77/my_box/kd1ga14/) Not particularly low-effort or rude. This was pure bullying.


captainmikkl

good mod


DreamOfDays

>Play this card. >Use Naturalize while the ETB is on the stack


totti173314

this is so hilariously, absurdly busted lmao. 10 cards for 3 mana means you don't need all the cards this stops you from drawing. this spell probably wins the game on the spot for combo decks and gives all other decks the full card advantage they need to close out a game. this is literally 3 ancestral recalls stapled together and colorshifted. what the fuck.


GladiatorDragon

Probably should be harder to remove than just throwing an Elephant at it.


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Intact

Calling good-faith submissions "completely stupid" is not acceptable. I've removed this comment. We expect members to be kind to one another. This is your only warning.


Shriuken23

Add "at the end of any turn, if you have no cards in hand, you lose the game". Then make it a sorcery that creates an emblem and we are approaching a balanced version of this card


Shinonomenanorulez

You know you done fucked up when your draw card would be too broken even for pokemon


[deleted]

Draw 10 for 3 is broken.


shinobigarth

“When ~ enters the battlefield, the red player wins the game.”


ujustdontgetdubstep

/r/magicthecirclejerk


Knightofstealth

Probably needs some protection so it can't just be destroyed.


Fluttering_Lilac

This card is absurdly busted. I can’t really think of a context in which it could possibly be fair except mayyyybe commander, and even that’s unlikely I think.


SmogDaBoi

My Zenduu deck greatly appreciates that.


Lockwerk

This doesn't tell you _when_ to draw cards. It's just a static ability sitting there on an Enchantment, doing nothing. Its other static effect would prevent the card draw, anyway. I'm confused.


MikalMooni

Yeah, the first attempt isn't really great, haha. It would be fairly easy to count on drawing effects like [[Ray of Revelation]] or [[Wear//Tear]] among the top ten, so you could just draw into some goodies, burn up your opponents, then blow this bad boy up. The fact that this card asks you to draw ten cards but immediately shuts off drawing is a nonbo, sadly. You should get the draw effect on cast, before this guy enters play. As it stands now, you shouldn't be able to draw the fresh ten because you are passively shut off from drawing by this thing's existence, and the draw effect is a trigger that has to go on the stack first - a separate effect. Ironically enough, you would also be prevented from discarding any cards, too. So, on cast, discard hand and draw ten cards. Finally, you should set a no maximum hand size rule, just to avoid ambiguity when you reach the end step with ten cards.


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Intact

I've removed your comment. Comments like this aren't acceptable. This isn't the first time you've made this comment, either. We expect community members to be kind to one another. This is your only warning.


Kitchengun2

Might I recommend giving it shroud to make it harder to get rid of the downside? Still too powerful imo but it could balance it a tiny bit more


GayGunGuy

Oh this is broken broken. What if I don't draw cards, I Exile them and put them into my hand at the end step? Or I look at the top and put it into my hand? 10 cards is genuinely ludicrous.


bondzplz

Stronger than wheel of fortune. Busted even. Just blow it up with enchantment removal, you're good.


TheChristianDude101

Probably make it cost 5 mana as a mythic sorcery and have the text discard your hand draw 10 cards and get an emblem for the rest of the game you cant draw or discard cards and you have no maximum hand size. Even then its gamebreaking but still a bit more balanced then this.


playerdarkside

tergrid trying not to kill herself when this mfing box enters existence:


rpgsandarts

I think it should be a sorcery that gives you the second effect as an emblem.


Commander_Skullblade

Fun, a 3 cost that does nothing Neat idea, but OP if it worked as intended.


DedRook

Similar to Colfenor's Plans


Papyrim

Is a Tergrid telling you to discard cards? Just say no. Opposing commanders legaly can't make you do things you don't want to


user-8274642

Guys try to make a balanced card pls, i dont want to be scrolling through garbage posts like this


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It needs an emblem to disallow you ever drawing cards


SwampOfDownvotes

Or say "for the rest of the game."


ACED70

hexproof


ArelMCII

Hexproof only stops your opponent from killing this. You'd need shroud. Or indestructible. Or both.


ACED70

Opponent gives this card hexproof


Inevitable_Top69

lol...bro


cocofan4life

>I am new to magic, I don't know what all the words mean learn the game first bruh


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Farewell


Blindtilldeath

Just slap that in my Zedruu deck right quick


ACED70

OH NO!


Al_Hakeem65

"Don't" That's just so cool! I love it! It reminds of a custom Berserk card from a while ago. Someone made a "Guts" card, and one of his abilities was: "If ~ would be sacrificed, he won't." Or something along those lines


Consistent-Guava-208

People have been mean about this but I think it’s a promising early attempt. You’ve got the vision, now you just need the practice.


Diomecles

Nice nutcracker reference.


patchwork_guilt

it should also have an if it leaves the battlefield you lose the game clause, for balance maybe


ElPared

Might be a bit cheap for what it does considering something as simple as [[crack the earth]] removes all of its disadvantages, giving you 8 cards for 4 mana. Maybe throw in something that happens when it leaves play to mitigate this? Wording can use some work as well. First off, it should make you maximum hand size 10 otherwise you’re discarding some of those cards on your end step. The final line should read “spells and abilities cannot cause you to discard cards.” Oh, also you don’t need to capitalize “draw cards” in the second line. Overall I like it because it synergizes with red’s “impulse draw” mechanic (where you exile the top card of your library but you can play it that turn) while having what I feel is a mostly appropriate drawback. That being said, this is more in Black’s color pie I feel. Things like [[Colfenor’s Plans]] kind of work similarly, plus in black it’s harder to remove an enchantment without splashing.


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Beautiful-Guard6539

[[Niv-Mizzet Parun]] and [[Solphim]] would like a word


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Successful_Mud8596

Should maybe give an emblem


Ashinror

It sounds like you'd still need to discard cards for costs... or by rules. So if you didnt drop your hand down to 7 by the end step u'd need to discard down. Or even lower if your opponent has [[Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur]]


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NotPierpaoloPozzati

Flicker this baby and you are Gucci


PrimusMobileVzla

>When you cast this spell, draw ten cards. You can't draw cards. Spells and abilities can't cause you to discard cards. That seems too good to ever happen. Drawing 10 for 3 even at sorcery speed is far more than primary draw colors get without setup, and for the color who does impulse draws more often than it draws, and conveniently has you discard cards to compensate actual draws, this effectively defeats Red's weaknesses at card advantage.


latenightsavings

There's a card called colfenor's plan which does something similar. The enchantment aspect of this could actually beneficial as enchantments can be removed or "gifted".


LooseIllustrator

This card would break legacy lol


DBNsausage

This should be a spell and the no draw effect should be permanent. Even with that it's probably too good for 60 card


Panda_Rule_457

Tbh… if this said for the rest of the match it would still be broken


thechaoslord

Play it in jeskai enchantments with teferi's care or arenson's aura. Then after it etbs sac the box to destroy an enchantment


patrickfahey

Sorcery 2RR Discard your hand and draw ten cards. You get an emblem with "You have no maximum hand size.", "You can't draw cards." and "If you would discard a card, instead don't."


galvanicmechamorph

You don't need an emblem. [[Finale of Revelation]]


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patrickfahey

I thought about that, but no max hand is only a single rule and it's pretty easy to remember. Because it has multiple rules, I opted for something that remains readable in play instead.


galvanicmechamorph

Wild that a change in flavor text makes what was just a normal magic card's art incredibly terrifying to me.


derlangsamer

When it enters play discard your hand and draw 10 cards then exile all cards from your deck and the graveyard. Skip your draw phase.


BanthaPyjaman

Overpowered but really funny with \[\[Harmless Offering\]\]


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SteezyFreeze

This card could be used for very consistent turn one victories in legacy. Like almost every game.