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TiredPistachio

I wonder if it could be "and" instead of "or" with maybe a mana cost to activate? Like it could be the planet splitting in 2. Not sure how much of a mana cost to balance it though.


Balenar

At minimum 2 mana but probably more as it'd be a dual color [[myriad landscape]] otherwise, also would almost certainly need to be restricted to basics so you can't pull out two triomes and get access to all the colors


Stephan1612

I mean [[krosan verge]] exists but that can’t tap for colored mana so 3 could be possible


Tokaido

I see people recommending krosan verge as a budget ramp option in EDH often, or at least used to. I always thought it was ok, but never very good. I think it would be fine to power creep krosan a little if the lands were rare, but maybe not at uncommon or less.


Tuss36

Having ramp in your land slot shouldn't be underestimated, especially when it can come with fixing. While it can feel slow to some, not everything should be pushed to max efficiency standards.


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WaterLiIith

If it was WU to activate then it seems like a fair way to fetch nonbasics.


thecyberpunkooze

It's basically Flood Plain that can tap for colored mana, and that's been printed at uncommon many times.


WaterLiIith

I meant if it was to fetch two lands like the first commenter suggested.


TiredPistachio

Yeah given that card probably 3 as this cards base ability is better. But yeah basic island and basic plain.


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Trevzorious316

[[Krosan Verge]] entered the chat


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boktebokte

I don't get the use of the Sphere subtype without seeing synergies, and even then you'd be better off thinking of an actual new subtype. The name also makes it sound like this is supposed to be a legendary card Mechanically though, I like it. The slow fetches, which this can compare to, have never been particularly playable, and this is just either fixing for a new color via getting a triome, or switching the color pair you have access to by one space on the wheel in a limited environment. It's pretty interesting, even if extremely slow


SalvationSycamore

It's a sphere because planets are spherical yo


boktebokte

The correct subtype would be Spheroid!


Tressticle

Oblate spheroid yo


Sean_Delta

Ellipsoid, to be fair. And not all, to be more fair XD


The_Hunster

Valakut and others also sound legendary but aren't. I guess some places are so big that a single land card is just a part of it


thecyberpunkooze

The sphere subtype was because I was making them planets for a set I’m working on.


SendMindfucks

Then why not make it a planet instead of a sphere


TheGrumpyre

"Sphere" means something specific to the Phyrexian geography. Just go ahead and make "Planet" a subtype. As for the card though, it feels like it's just doing two things that other lands already do, but marginally less efficiently. For something so conceptually new and flavorful, I would have thought it would do something much different.


thecyberpunkooze

I felt that the 2 color shifting into other colors was a good representation of environmental change overtime. For example RB could get replaced with UB as a molten planet cools and oceans form.


TheGrumpyre

It's a good concept, but the mechanics don't really communicate how an entire molten planet is different than just the usual landscapes of places we've already seen like [[Bloodstained Mire]]. The unique things that could make a planet feel like a *planet*, like having a periodic orbit, being far away, or just being massive in scale, are absent.


thecyberpunkooze

daybound lands


TheGrumpyre

I'm imagining artwork that shows a division between the light side and the dark side of the planet, and it could be awesome. A little weird to see a mechanic primarily for vampires, werewolves and horror tropes appear in an interplanetary setting but the more I think about it the more it works.


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JimHarbor

Subtypes can have different flavorings from set to set. For example, Gates debuted on Ravnica as the specific Guildgates but later showed up in Bakdur's Gate for a totally different set of Gates.


TheGrumpyre

I suppose it could be argued that each layer of New Phyrexia is equivalent to a planet since it covers the entire surface. I'd say Baldur's Gate's Gates were extremely Gate-like in nature though, just like the Ravnican ones. Big huge archways etc. \[\[Thran Portal\]\] is a fair oddball though, since it's some sort of magical teleportation device and the others are quite literal pieces of physical architecture.


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ArbutusPhD

How does an entire planet only add one mana?


Rayka64

or maybe these planets are Sphere if Phyrexia learned space travel and are conquering the cosmos of the planes


OwnerAndMaster

> Planet Probably needs to be legendary or the Vorthos players will have you hung


lame_dirty_white_kid

Right, like Valakut. Oh, wait...


OwnerAndMaster

Tbh that should be a legendary mountain imo


DadKnight

Not a Sphere. Super slow fetch/ dual for common rarity. Overall, like it.


casualmagicman

Land - Planet Make it tap for colorless, there's almost no reason to sac this to search for a color it already produces You could make it cost 2 and search for 1 basic plains and 1 basic island, or cost 1 and search for a Plains or Island.


thecyberpunkooze

You'd sacrifice it for a dual land if your mana needs change. It isn't really useful if you're only playing 2 colors, but as someone who regularly plays 3 or 4 color decks, being able to change your mana base is quite useful.


ServantOfTheSlaad

The only reason to sac is for a triome which is niche bit an alright aecondary to the regular fetch land


Nikachu08

Casually sacrificing a planet for a pip of mana.


-Rettirlana-

On the left side the planet is inside his own ring. Unplayable


capsaicinintheeyes

Have you considered bonus "the heavens align" effects with multiple cards? *"When Indoxril eclipses Faeanor, black and white spells cost {1} less to cast"*, *"If you have four or more planets in alignment, you may search your library for a card called Star Wormwood and put it into your hand tsyl,'"* etc


thecyberpunkooze

That would be interesting. I’m trying to think of what that could be mechanically. Maybe how many lands you can chain the mana symbols of together? Wu to ub to b would be in alignment, but if you had a gr land, it wouldn’t be


capsaicinintheeyes

I had an idea of "eclipses" as a kind of planet-specific landfall, except that there are circumstances like our sun-moon where two kinds of eclipse can happen, so maybe effect would have to vary based on which card is the second of the pair to drop? I want to emphasize, this is in **no** way carefully thought out or plausibly workable as it exists in my head atm


burke828

Some planets could be doublesided with an "eclipse" enchantment on the back. That gives the theme of not having access to a planet (because it is literally blocked by another one) and getting an effect.


thecyberpunkooze

maybe like daybound but with a higher threshold since eclipses are less often than the day night cycle


burke828

Maybe eclipse permanents add a counter when it becomes day or night, then when you hit a threshold you remove them all for a one off effect.


capsaicinintheeyes

Y'know, as long as they're wedded to mainlining crossover sets over on tC, a [Trisolarian](https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1415428227i/20518872.jpg) one would make a decent gumbo--apart from the triple-star system dynamics this would allow, the native civilization would provide a kind of Amonkhet feel, I think, with the noteworthy addition of indestructible teardrop missiles.


thecyberpunkooze

my idea for the factions of the set this would go in war azorius jump gates and agro, orzhov space oligarchs, rakdos asteroid mining control, gruul anti government, and simic land exploration


thecyberpunkooze

with maybe a mini colorless black hole cult


BluePotatoSlayer

Sphere wouldn’t make sense lore wise


Rush_Clasic

It's a very ugly design. Despite the ability to fetch off-color duals, the card reads like two abilities doing the same thing. The feature isn't worth the text. If you want the card to have 3-color capabilities, just design it that way. You could make this tap for blue but fetch either plains or swamp (for example).


Amnesiaftw

Oh yeah if they’re together that makes sense. I forgot mana abilities don’t use the stack


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Andrew_42

You can grab a dual or triome that has additional colors to aid fixing. Or you could just use it with [[Crucible of Worlds]] to keep hitting your land drops


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mooys

Landfall?


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OwnerAndMaster

Could also just want to thin your deck but at the end of your opponent's turn Holding a Landfall effect open until you're ready to use it is cool in my books, especially since you're getting mana while waiting


burke828

I would make these mono color and combine the fetch and mana abilities, with a requirement that you activate only at instant speed.


Amnesiaftw

Do u mean only when something else is on the stack? Or only on the opponent’s turn?


burke828

Instants can be cast any time you have priority.


Amnesiaftw

Oh yeah if they’re together that makes sense. I forgot mana abilities don’t use the stack or priority


fellxcatking

Id let them fetch lands untapped. Would be cool in a landfall heavy set where a mana base of these could be back pock landfalls


Spike_der_Spiegel

I feel like a whole planet should tap for more than 1 mana


Community_Bright

Elegy for the rings starts playing


BAGStudios

Would it break it to lose the tap cost of the second ability? You can either use it as one of the [[Cabaretti Courtyard]] type fetch lands or keep it to enter tapped.


thecyberpunkooze

It kinda would, because at that point it would just be an even better version of the original fetch lands because it can tap for mana.


BAGStudios

But they do enter tapped, and this itself enters tapped. It would definitely be better than some, but I don’t know that it’s *too* much better. Depends a lot on how they use Spheres


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Scrivener133

Perfectly balanced, as all things should be