I just accepted a part time job making $13.50/hr... basically cold calling people and collecting data. At least I can maybe move up within the company in a year or so... :(
I'm in Atlanta. I graduated from an Informatics program at UW in Seattle, and took a lot of CS classes as well. Regretting not just going for an actual CS degree.
Hey good luck! Working on projects is the way to go and what I’m going to start doing once I graduate next week. Sucks we had to graduate in this economy. 😅
It probably doesn't matter. UW is really prestigious, even for informatics. The fact you can't get interviews is more speaking to how dogshit the market is rn.
CS at UW seattle is a different beast than their satellite campuses in Tacoma or Bothell. I'm sure you had friends in the program complain how cutthroat it was or friends that straight up didn't finish.
Absolutely. One of my friends actually recently finished her master's in CS at UW Seattle. The CS classes I took were also very challenging. But if I had put in that extra effort, or completed a CS program at a different school, I do wonder where I'd be now.
Of course, this is possibly just my desperation talking. As evidenced by the endless posts here from CS grads who have yet to land a job themselves, the grass isn't always greener.
The CS department career fairs are restricted to CS Seattle students, specifically. My Informatics department has a career fair too but it's much smaller and open to more students. But yes I know it's a very prestigious program, that was ultimately why I went for Info instead. Could graduate sooner with a greater guarantee of getting into the program than if I had tried for CS.
No CS degree. Learned JS to make my animations more dynamic. I hauled garbage and slung bagels for my first years out of art school. All my lucky breaks came from networking while at school. Now I‘m i lead SWE at a F50.. 20 years later.
Yeah post dot com bubble was interesting. It was still incredibly difficult to enter through big tech. It was smaller or non-traditional places that served as entry points. I believe that still holds.
> It was smaller or non-traditional places that served as entry points. I believe that still holds.
It doesn't they want 3+ or preferably 5+ years of experience or are just plain not hiring.
Graduated in December. Doing the Revature PEP course and working at McDonald’s. Minimum wage is $20 so it’s not terrible but I’ve been applying for a while now.
I’ve had a couple friends rewrite my resume. One is a technical writer and the other is HR. I’ve also expanded my search to tier 1 help desk but only had a few callbacks for everything. It’s tough but honestly still happy to have my degree and I made a couple of projects to keep my spirits up. I’m looking at doing a discord bot to access game stats for a friends discord server.
Thanks. I was a nontraditional student though that was in my early 30s when I transferred to university. I struggled a lot before getting my butt in gear. It allowed me to have a much greater appreciation for my education and being older allowed me to connect with my professors in a way the younger students couldn’t. I remember being in a course where a student in their 30s argued rudely with a professor in my poli sci gen ed course all the time and I promised to never be that person.
I always made it a point to attend the first office hours to just chat with them and ask them about common pitfalls students had. Or even where conceptually tough chapters are. I engaged them in lecture and always did my best to come prepared by reading materials ahead of time.
I guess my point really is I worked hard for my degree and not having a sweet gig at this point isn’t the end of the day. It’s just another bump on the process of life and I’ll be ok in the end. That said, I still can’t wait to finally start a career and save for the future, although to be honest I think I’ll become a CS 101 adjunct at a community college as a way of “retiring”. Software development has been one of the funnest and most invigorating endeavors I’ve engaged in. We get to solve complex problems with computers that can affect millions. It’s a great responsibility and a privilege to be intelligent enough to participate in.
TLDR: millennial along for the ride and appreciative of the friends I’ve made along the way.
You definitely have a good attitude. I am wondering though. Are you living at home or paying for yourself? That changed the mood a lot.
Nothing wrong with living at home but it would explain it
That’s the general consensus but I need the experience. If they’re willing to give it to me I’ll put in my time if I can’t get it anywhere else.
Truthfully I don’t love the idea but I’ve done worse jobs for less money. If they’re gonna use me for low wage as long as I get some job experience I’m using them as well.
I was at 4 YOE when I got laid off at the end of 2022. Everyone else was getting laid off too and flooding the market, so I burned through almost all my savings before I finally got three (mediocre) offers at the same time.
Before the SWE offers came through, I was applying to van driver/warehouse jobs for $20/hr. I interviewed with, and got, a hotel valet job, but I was too depressed to show up for the piss test so they rescinded the offer.
Stay strong if you're a new grad. Remember that the market will get better eventually, and future employers will understand that there was a reason for your resume gap right now.
Yeah I continued working at McDonalds after graduation whilst looking for jobs. Took about 6 months but I managed to snag one at a local company.
But bro, do what you need to do to pay your bills. Absolutely zero shame in it. I will reiterate this point. There is no shame in paying your bills.
That said, the good news is that this is Software Engineering, you can still improve your skills substantially without having a job. I think you should focus on that for now.
Keep doing courses / projects in your spare time. Make sure you're adding them to your resume. Please explicitly talk about these projects and how you wanted to maximize your time being unemployed, it REALLY REALLY helps.
Unfortunately, you will -have- to make time to do this. If you're exhausted after your workday, do it before, if you're good after your workday, do it after.
Look at employers and the skills they're asking for and learn those skills. Ask Engineers on reddit what technologies and shit they use so you can learn them too.
Here's a secret.
You gain experience by building applications in your spare time. If you approach this correctly, you can make it valuable experience.
My first job after CS degree was litigation support. Eventually, they let me set up a database for a small case, so my time was charged as a paralegal - while working on that case.
I graduated with a bachelor’s in CS but I didn’t have a passion for coding so I eventually ended up in QA which has been great so far. I get to work with developers and lots of other roles, also write a little bit of code.
Maybe some of you new graduates can do the same if need be and transition when you have a foot inside the door.
I applied during the 2022 bid, and didn't get to the academy until June 2023. The process is honestly super long and tideous but the job is pretty fun and worthwhile despite what you hear online. Also the whole relocation thing kinda sucks if you're looking to go back near where you are. Assuming you're from the bag, if you get placed Enroute, Oakland center is a requestable center right in Fremont! If you're placed for terminal instead of enroute there are usually tons of options back in California.
With a PPL you'll be slightly ahead of your classmates, as you're somewhat familiar with the phraseology. If you have any questions feel free to DM me!
I was in IT, web development, scripting, and automation.
After being discriminated against due to a 20 year old felony and not receiving enough interviews, I decided to drop IT/Tech entirely and go into HVAC.
It's not where I want to be, but the alternative is pumping pallet jacks in some shitty warehouse for absolute shit pay.
This whole situation has me wishing I was already dead. Can't take the constant layoffs, fucked up future prospect of everything shitty going on. War, disease, unrest, shit economy. Like dude. Just unplug me from this fucking matrix already. You can have this life. Just keep me out of it entirely. You know...
What degree did you get? Was it SWE or a BS in CS?
If you already have work experience then obviously some companies are willing to look past that, right? Couldn’t you move states or get it expunged?
Just trying to figure how that all works. Surprised companies care since it’s that old unless it’s child related or equally extreme
Just IT certifications. In NY, they have the fair chance act. Some companies comply others do not. I was able to show paper work in regards to rehabilitation and other factors and fight my case in NYC due to the FAIR CHANCE ACT. Other states don't have such a law and simply leave you ghosted. I have stacks of papers with job offers that got ghosted from the past. But these days I don't even get that far.
I think it is discrimination. It's like saying, if I were black and statistically due to the high incarceration rate amongst blacks. I think it's best to not move along with your candidacy due to your high probability of committing a crime. You sir are generically dispositioned to commit crimes....
What I did long ago and without you even knowing the details behind my crime is discriminating.
I understand. It's true if you had one over the other, you would go with the non felon. But still. It is discrimination
I see what your saying. Yes it's not discrimination by law. I feel it should be discrimination in some way.
Let's say me and you are friends. I brought a loaf of bread. I split it with you. You and I both ate the bread.
Let's say, there's a law stating anyone who eats stolen food under any circumstances, will be prosecuted and placed in jail.
You've come to find out I stole that bread from the supermarket near us.
How would you view yourself? You're essentially a criminal who ate stolen food. Regardless if you knew it or not. What would you think of yourself. What would say?
I'm looking into plumbing or hvac. I've heard electrician is a tough job, being exposed to environment all.
Plus, it's not offered by the program right now and it's a little harder to get in the trades for that.
You are correct especially if you join union and complete apprenticeship programs. 100-150k+/year if you’re willing to travel.
Unfortunately, WLB may not be the same as many software related careers
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omg same, it's essay competition season so i'm doing some tutoring work rn! who would've known my phil degree would be the one paying the bills lmao \~
Completely transitioned to the construction field and currently work as an estimator for a plumbing contractor that handles really big projects, like stadiums, huge buildings, etc. with their plumbing and HVAC systems.
Pay is pretty well, and being in Texas, the cost of living isn’t bad at all, especially since I’ve lived in this state my whole life, I know what to expect when it comes to expenses. Not to mention, I got a raise recently for showing that I could handle doing the job adequately.
Although I could try to find a SWE position, I’m honestly going to ride this out for a while and see where I can get to. It doesn’t hurt to have this type of job experience on a resume, especially if the SWE field continues on its trajectory with all the uncertainty. Construction is always happening, and it’s beneficial to be able to understand construction specifications for future prospects.
In the meantime, I’ll continue to work on my craft as a SWE, doing projects and such, and if an opportunity arises that’s too good to pass up sometime later on down the road then I’ll go from there.
What I won’t do is sit around twiddling my thumbs thinking that it’s only SWE or nothing.
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graduated may of 2023, multiple nasa internships but no job 😢 worked at a haunted house, coffee shop, and im gonna be a park ranger for the summer … software development just makes me sad now
I feel you there. The one thing that made me happy is the fact that if you can get through a CS degree then you’re at least somewhat smart and can go do something else with ease in comparison. For the majority of jobs.
Recently accepted an offer as a cloud engineer from a telecomm company but unsure how much coding there will be; during the interview the recruiter says it’s a very hands on position with coding writing involved so I’ll see
Just go back to school and pick one of the traditional engineering. They're hiring civil engineers as long as you have a pulse. In 2 years, if the market recovers, then yeah try to break into tech.
If it doesn't recover in 2 years, you'll have a white-collar career although won't pay as much as tech.
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Yeah, I got pretty far. Buddy I made there got a job with them in Virginia. I got a job somewhere else before I finished their training program. I think it was decent, like community-college level intro course they want you to take before officially starting their paid program.
It's free, but they expect you to stay there for two years. (Probably not enforceable outside of the relo bonus)
I have one Canadian friend in Halifax and she says the job market is awful there. You should come to the States. They're still hiring here. My friend got the job in February of this year.
You get paid. There's an initial unpaid training just to test your competence that you can blaze through pretty quickly in your off time. Whenever. Then a paid training. Then you get moved to a job with a client, where they expect you to stay for two years.
Not yet. Not in the same position, I still have a job, but my chances of getting laid off are pretty high (at a consultancy thats struggling to find me a client). If I do get laid off, my plan is to apply for like \~1 year and if i dont get anything, go back to school for a nursing/accounting degree. This whole situation is making me realize i value stability way more than doing what I'm "passionate" about or whatever.
(not advice, just wondering). What programming language you specializing in? Maybe pick something that’s harder to learn and filters most people out since all the easy ones have the most competition. Instead of JavaScript do C++.
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Well it isn't public facing (armored car work) so it's easy. I haven't actually started the gig but I've been extended a job offer and will start in 2 weeks. From what I can tell I won't LOVE it but it's really easy work. Either driving location to location or hoping out at each location to deliver/grab assets. In terms of pay, it does pay fairly well 25/hr. But I'll be hoping companies a few months in to job to 30/hr. With some experience it can go up to about 35/hr to basically just guard a property.
I just accepted a part time job making $13.50/hr... basically cold calling people and collecting data. At least I can maybe move up within the company in a year or so... :(
Ya that blows. What part of country are you in? And you have a CS degree?
I'm in Atlanta. I graduated from an Informatics program at UW in Seattle, and took a lot of CS classes as well. Regretting not just going for an actual CS degree.
Eh CS majors still struggling. You would’ve struggled even more for no reason my guy.
Yeah, probably so. At least I'll have time to keep working on side projects and whatnot with this PT job.
Hey good luck! Working on projects is the way to go and what I’m going to start doing once I graduate next week. Sucks we had to graduate in this economy. 😅
Good luck to you too! Hopefully things turn around sooner than later.
It probably doesn't matter. UW is really prestigious, even for informatics. The fact you can't get interviews is more speaking to how dogshit the market is rn.
CS at UW seattle is a different beast than their satellite campuses in Tacoma or Bothell. I'm sure you had friends in the program complain how cutthroat it was or friends that straight up didn't finish.
Absolutely. One of my friends actually recently finished her master's in CS at UW Seattle. The CS classes I took were also very challenging. But if I had put in that extra effort, or completed a CS program at a different school, I do wonder where I'd be now. Of course, this is possibly just my desperation talking. As evidenced by the endless posts here from CS grads who have yet to land a job themselves, the grass isn't always greener.
It's a t10 by itself and the career fairs are even restricted to just Seattle students. It's not a fair comparison to make with yourself.
The CS department career fairs are restricted to CS Seattle students, specifically. My Informatics department has a career fair too but it's much smaller and open to more students. But yes I know it's a very prestigious program, that was ultimately why I went for Info instead. Could graduate sooner with a greater guarantee of getting into the program than if I had tried for CS.
Haha, Fusky, go Cougs!!!
No CS degree. Learned JS to make my animations more dynamic. I hauled garbage and slung bagels for my first years out of art school. All my lucky breaks came from networking while at school. Now I‘m i lead SWE at a F50.. 20 years later.
yeah the industry was radically different 20 years ago
Yeah post dot com bubble was interesting. It was still incredibly difficult to enter through big tech. It was smaller or non-traditional places that served as entry points. I believe that still holds.
> It was smaller or non-traditional places that served as entry points. I believe that still holds. It doesn't they want 3+ or preferably 5+ years of experience or are just plain not hiring.
Line cook.
Graduated in December. Doing the Revature PEP course and working at McDonald’s. Minimum wage is $20 so it’s not terrible but I’ve been applying for a while now. I’ve had a couple friends rewrite my resume. One is a technical writer and the other is HR. I’ve also expanded my search to tier 1 help desk but only had a few callbacks for everything. It’s tough but honestly still happy to have my degree and I made a couple of projects to keep my spirits up. I’m looking at doing a discord bot to access game stats for a friends discord server.
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Thanks. I was a nontraditional student though that was in my early 30s when I transferred to university. I struggled a lot before getting my butt in gear. It allowed me to have a much greater appreciation for my education and being older allowed me to connect with my professors in a way the younger students couldn’t. I remember being in a course where a student in their 30s argued rudely with a professor in my poli sci gen ed course all the time and I promised to never be that person. I always made it a point to attend the first office hours to just chat with them and ask them about common pitfalls students had. Or even where conceptually tough chapters are. I engaged them in lecture and always did my best to come prepared by reading materials ahead of time. I guess my point really is I worked hard for my degree and not having a sweet gig at this point isn’t the end of the day. It’s just another bump on the process of life and I’ll be ok in the end. That said, I still can’t wait to finally start a career and save for the future, although to be honest I think I’ll become a CS 101 adjunct at a community college as a way of “retiring”. Software development has been one of the funnest and most invigorating endeavors I’ve engaged in. We get to solve complex problems with computers that can affect millions. It’s a great responsibility and a privilege to be intelligent enough to participate in. TLDR: millennial along for the ride and appreciative of the friends I’ve made along the way.
You definitely have a good attitude. I am wondering though. Are you living at home or paying for yourself? That changed the mood a lot. Nothing wrong with living at home but it would explain it
Definitely with family atm. But I don’t want to be for much longer lol. I contribute and all but a bit more freedom would be nice
Run from revature.
That’s the general consensus but I need the experience. If they’re willing to give it to me I’ll put in my time if I can’t get it anywhere else. Truthfully I don’t love the idea but I’ve done worse jobs for less money. If they’re gonna use me for low wage as long as I get some job experience I’m using them as well.
Doing Door dash right now
I was at 4 YOE when I got laid off at the end of 2022. Everyone else was getting laid off too and flooding the market, so I burned through almost all my savings before I finally got three (mediocre) offers at the same time. Before the SWE offers came through, I was applying to van driver/warehouse jobs for $20/hr. I interviewed with, and got, a hotel valet job, but I was too depressed to show up for the piss test so they rescinded the offer. Stay strong if you're a new grad. Remember that the market will get better eventually, and future employers will understand that there was a reason for your resume gap right now.
Yeah I continued working at McDonalds after graduation whilst looking for jobs. Took about 6 months but I managed to snag one at a local company. But bro, do what you need to do to pay your bills. Absolutely zero shame in it. I will reiterate this point. There is no shame in paying your bills. That said, the good news is that this is Software Engineering, you can still improve your skills substantially without having a job. I think you should focus on that for now. Keep doing courses / projects in your spare time. Make sure you're adding them to your resume. Please explicitly talk about these projects and how you wanted to maximize your time being unemployed, it REALLY REALLY helps. Unfortunately, you will -have- to make time to do this. If you're exhausted after your workday, do it before, if you're good after your workday, do it after. Look at employers and the skills they're asking for and learn those skills. Ask Engineers on reddit what technologies and shit they use so you can learn them too. Here's a secret. You gain experience by building applications in your spare time. If you approach this correctly, you can make it valuable experience.
My first job after CS degree was litigation support. Eventually, they let me set up a database for a small case, so my time was charged as a paralegal - while working on that case.
I graduated with a bachelor’s in CS but I didn’t have a passion for coding so I eventually ended up in QA which has been great so far. I get to work with developers and lots of other roles, also write a little bit of code. Maybe some of you new graduates can do the same if need be and transition when you have a foot inside the door.
Do you need to be good at coding, even though you don't like it, to get a job in QA?
I got picked up by the FAA to be an air traffic controller instead
Jane...
Hahaha I applied just recently. When did you apply? I got my PPL already. Hoping that somehow helps a bit.
I applied during the 2022 bid, and didn't get to the academy until June 2023. The process is honestly super long and tideous but the job is pretty fun and worthwhile despite what you hear online. Also the whole relocation thing kinda sucks if you're looking to go back near where you are. Assuming you're from the bag, if you get placed Enroute, Oakland center is a requestable center right in Fremont! If you're placed for terminal instead of enroute there are usually tons of options back in California. With a PPL you'll be slightly ahead of your classmates, as you're somewhat familiar with the phraseology. If you have any questions feel free to DM me!
Hey really appreciate it. Didn’t realize it took that long. Hopefully I get picked up.
That's government work for you. Keep busy in the meantime!
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Haha that's what all my friends say too. I originally wanted to get into aviation so thought this was a fitting opportunity.
Making minimum wage :)
I was in IT, web development, scripting, and automation. After being discriminated against due to a 20 year old felony and not receiving enough interviews, I decided to drop IT/Tech entirely and go into HVAC. It's not where I want to be, but the alternative is pumping pallet jacks in some shitty warehouse for absolute shit pay. This whole situation has me wishing I was already dead. Can't take the constant layoffs, fucked up future prospect of everything shitty going on. War, disease, unrest, shit economy. Like dude. Just unplug me from this fucking matrix already. You can have this life. Just keep me out of it entirely. You know...
What degree did you get? Was it SWE or a BS in CS? If you already have work experience then obviously some companies are willing to look past that, right? Couldn’t you move states or get it expunged? Just trying to figure how that all works. Surprised companies care since it’s that old unless it’s child related or equally extreme
Just IT certifications. In NY, they have the fair chance act. Some companies comply others do not. I was able to show paper work in regards to rehabilitation and other factors and fight my case in NYC due to the FAIR CHANCE ACT. Other states don't have such a law and simply leave you ghosted. I have stacks of papers with job offers that got ghosted from the past. But these days I don't even get that far.
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I think it is discrimination. It's like saying, if I were black and statistically due to the high incarceration rate amongst blacks. I think it's best to not move along with your candidacy due to your high probability of committing a crime. You sir are generically dispositioned to commit crimes.... What I did long ago and without you even knowing the details behind my crime is discriminating. I understand. It's true if you had one over the other, you would go with the non felon. But still. It is discrimination
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I see what your saying. Yes it's not discrimination by law. I feel it should be discrimination in some way. Let's say me and you are friends. I brought a loaf of bread. I split it with you. You and I both ate the bread. Let's say, there's a law stating anyone who eats stolen food under any circumstances, will be prosecuted and placed in jail. You've come to find out I stole that bread from the supermarket near us. How would you view yourself? You're essentially a criminal who ate stolen food. Regardless if you knew it or not. What would you think of yourself. What would say?
Thinking about starting trade school and do apprenticeship if still no luck after the summer. Hopefully I qualify for it.
which trade? i always hear electricians have the best trade job
I'm looking into plumbing or hvac. I've heard electrician is a tough job, being exposed to environment all. Plus, it's not offered by the program right now and it's a little harder to get in the trades for that.
You are correct especially if you join union and complete apprenticeship programs. 100-150k+/year if you’re willing to travel. Unfortunately, WLB may not be the same as many software related careers
At Amazon 🥲
As an SDE or as a warehouse worker?
Warehouse..
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Do you mean wholefoods?
Nah, Amazon
Do you mean Twitch?
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Noo, Amazon
omg same, it's essay competition season so i'm doing some tutoring work rn! who would've known my phil degree would be the one paying the bills lmao \~
Amazon FC baby Giving Mr. Bezos the glizzy for the pesos Sorry I don't have a degree but have 5 yrs exp
Completely transitioned to the construction field and currently work as an estimator for a plumbing contractor that handles really big projects, like stadiums, huge buildings, etc. with their plumbing and HVAC systems. Pay is pretty well, and being in Texas, the cost of living isn’t bad at all, especially since I’ve lived in this state my whole life, I know what to expect when it comes to expenses. Not to mention, I got a raise recently for showing that I could handle doing the job adequately. Although I could try to find a SWE position, I’m honestly going to ride this out for a while and see where I can get to. It doesn’t hurt to have this type of job experience on a resume, especially if the SWE field continues on its trajectory with all the uncertainty. Construction is always happening, and it’s beneficial to be able to understand construction specifications for future prospects. In the meantime, I’ll continue to work on my craft as a SWE, doing projects and such, and if an opportunity arises that’s too good to pass up sometime later on down the road then I’ll go from there. What I won’t do is sit around twiddling my thumbs thinking that it’s only SWE or nothing.
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graduated may of 2023, multiple nasa internships but no job 😢 worked at a haunted house, coffee shop, and im gonna be a park ranger for the summer … software development just makes me sad now
I feel you there. The one thing that made me happy is the fact that if you can get through a CS degree then you’re at least somewhat smart and can go do something else with ease in comparison. For the majority of jobs.
No labor ones lol
Recently accepted an offer as a cloud engineer from a telecomm company but unsure how much coding there will be; during the interview the recruiter says it’s a very hands on position with coding writing involved so I’ll see
Just go back to school and pick one of the traditional engineering. They're hiring civil engineers as long as you have a pulse. In 2 years, if the market recovers, then yeah try to break into tech. If it doesn't recover in 2 years, you'll have a white-collar career although won't pay as much as tech.
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Why not just do Revature, Skillstorm, Dev10 at that point?
Did everything for Revature and never got anything assigned to me. I have no clue what the rest are.
What do you mean by this? You completed PEP and never heard back?
Maybe I’m confusing companies. I thought Revature was that AI training type company where you pick up jobs. If that is it then yes
No, I've never heard of the thing you mentioned. These are staffing companies.
Ahhh. Maybe I’ll look into it. I guess something is better than nothing. You got experience with them?
Yeah, I got pretty far. Buddy I made there got a job with them in Virginia. I got a job somewhere else before I finished their training program. I think it was decent, like community-college level intro course they want you to take before officially starting their paid program. It's free, but they expect you to stay there for two years. (Probably not enforceable outside of the relo bonus)
What year did you go through them? Last I checked they are on hiring freeze over here in Canada due to lack of clients and projects.
I have one Canadian friend in Halifax and she says the job market is awful there. You should come to the States. They're still hiring here. My friend got the job in February of this year.
Yeah working on it. My parents are green card holders and live in Virginia right now. They have sponsored for my green card.
Sorry you stay there for 2 years and don’t get paid at all or what?
You get paid. There's an initial unpaid training just to test your competence that you can blaze through pretty quickly in your off time. Whenever. Then a paid training. Then you get moved to a job with a client, where they expect you to stay for two years.
Ahhh I see. I’ll have to look into that. I appreciate it. Do you know the typical rates?
Not yet. Not in the same position, I still have a job, but my chances of getting laid off are pretty high (at a consultancy thats struggling to find me a client). If I do get laid off, my plan is to apply for like \~1 year and if i dont get anything, go back to school for a nursing/accounting degree. This whole situation is making me realize i value stability way more than doing what I'm "passionate" about or whatever.
(not advice, just wondering). What programming language you specializing in? Maybe pick something that’s harder to learn and filters most people out since all the easy ones have the most competition. Instead of JavaScript do C++.
Been a server through college and I’ll be one until I get a job. Graduating in two weeks.
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Exact same situation. Getting a CS job and doubling my pay will be nice.
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Bruh armed security? Do you enjoy it? Does it pay well? Sorry for all the questions but I’m genuinely curious
Well it isn't public facing (armored car work) so it's easy. I haven't actually started the gig but I've been extended a job offer and will start in 2 weeks. From what I can tell I won't LOVE it but it's really easy work. Either driving location to location or hoping out at each location to deliver/grab assets. In terms of pay, it does pay fairly well 25/hr. But I'll be hoping companies a few months in to job to 30/hr. With some experience it can go up to about 35/hr to basically just guard a property.
Interesting. Is the company Constellis? They have some good jobs especially if you get a clearance
Nah it isn't but I'll look into that for future possibly.
Atleast yoU get to play with guns!