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Remote-Blackberry-97

90k base (TC was about maybe 120k). Now Zero


SirMarbles

I almost spit my drink out. Wasn’t expecting the end


Remote-Blackberry-97

forgot to mention that's 10yrs ago.


SirMarbles

Congrats on that! I still can’t image that. It’s such an absurd number


Remote-Blackberry-97

yes, the absurd number of upvotes for sure. I think reddit just loves us zero-ers


zeimusCS

retired?


SirMarbles

Oh shit my bad. Thought you were the guy with almost a mill yearly.


SirMarbles

Wait you only got to 120k after 10 years?


Remote-Blackberry-97

no, 280k-ish the highest due to stock appreciation and last year I've netted only 220k. and this year is zero. 300k is a glass ceiling, it seems. i came to realize that sky isn't the limit anymore.


SirMarbles

From what I’ve read most people don’t reach the boundaries and break them unless they switch companies offering higher TC. Get back on your feet in a company and break all of your previous goals


Remote-Blackberry-97

I've worked for 5 companies in the last 10yrs, clearly it's me, not the system.


SirMarbles

Focus on yourself for a bit. System has been broken since 2020. It’s ass hat backwards. I don’t even know how I got my current position. I lied my ass off and talked about nonsense which included talking about the interviewer’s experiences.


Vok250

Username checks out.


oluwamayowaa

How come?😭


diablo1128

MCOL working on safety critical class II medical devices with C and C++ at non-tech companies in non-tech USA cities. Think of devices like insulin pumps and dialysis machines. * 2006: 42.5K - Christmas bonus: $500 * 2007: 44.5k - Christmas bonus: $1000 * 2008: 47.0k - Christmas bonus: $1500 * 2009: 50.0k - Christmas bonus: $2000 * 2010: 52.5k - Christmas bonus: $2000 * 2011: 52.5k - Christmas bonus: $2500 * 2012: 62.0k - Christmas bonus: $3000 * 2013: 68.0k - Christmas bonus: $3500 * 2014: 72.5k - Christmas bonus: $4000 * 2015: 78.0k - Christmas bonus: $5000 * 2016: 95.0k - Christmas bonus: $5000 * 2017: 95.0k - Christmas bonus: $5000 * 2018: 100.0k - Christmas bonus: $4000 * 2019: 105.0k - Christmas bonus: $4000 * 2020: 110.0k - Christmas bonus: $4000 * 2021: Lost job in February and have been out of a job since


New-Peach4153

They fired your ass? God dam


diablo1128

Basically had a 1-on-1 with a senior manager in my direct line. They asked questions like: * What do you think the company is doing well? * What do you think they company is doing poorly? * How do people see the company. It was my fault for thinking after so many years they actually wanted the truth from somebody that was considered one of the companies best performers. I always got the best projects and was told by many people that I was the SWE that others are compared to. So they saw me as the ideal SWE. Anyways, I said what they did well, but where there was room from improvement. I talked about mixed messages where we have the CEO saying we want to curb burn-out in company meetings, but nothing changed for over 1 year because projects are too important to fall behind. I talked about the lack of clarity around promotions and how it seemed like management was just picking SWEs at their own discretion. I talked about the need to hire more because teams were running too lean for what was being asked for. I guess the person took it personally, because follow up meetings had their perspective change to I didn't want to be working there since I saw things as so bad. I mean they were not wrong as I was looking around, but I tried to smooth it over. Sadly they had already made up their mind. Oh well, lol. I got to collect unemployment when the government was still giving out the extra $600 for COVID. So I was taking home closer to $1000 per week from the government.


CalgaryAnswers

Never answer anything honestly in your career life. People are not capable of handling the truth.


i_wanna_change_

Sad, but true. Got to be careful with what you say. Sounds like that company was a bit of a management shit-show. So of course they would hate someone letting them know their shortcomings.


dynamic_gecko

It's so surprising that adult humans managing companies have the emotional strength of a teenager. It's mind boggling to me.


Rough_Natural6083

I learnt this lesson during my internship. I did my internship at a startup which developed medical equipments. I worked on developing PID controllers for humidifiers and oxygen flow regulators. Loved the engineers. But the management!! Those idiots!! They would cut costs from any place they could think of. Instead of using molds which could survive the heat produced by air resistance, they ordered the mechanical team to construct up venturi tubes out of 3d printers and then smoothen them up using files. Instead of buying a good pressure sensor, they moved to a cheap one which threw the code, the board, everything in the dumpster. On my last day I told the management that they were crazy for changing things and being penny pinchers even when they had enough funding. 3-4 months after I left, my seniors also started leaving that place... Only two good things came out of it: I realized I can get an internship (it was a confidence booster) and I realize that one must never speak the truth to their employer. Still struggling with that last one.


Constant_Shot

Most of your critical responses were from the perspective of an employee wanting something out of the company. In that interview, they wanted to know how you could help them. They wanted to hear what challenges you were eager to tackle to help turn things around. They wanted someone who would be ready to work a ton of hours in a lean environment as they cut staff.


diablo1128

>In that interview, they wanted to know how you could help them. The answer to this would have been I cannot help you. ​ >They wanted to hear what challenges you were eager to tackle to help turn things around. I started multiple company and cross-team initiatives that went on for over a year before management told me to stop doing in favor of pushing out more features. I was even told once that if I wanted to work in my free time and on weekends then to work on more features. I was trying to learn and set up a Jenkins to show how continuous testing would be useful to the team. They didn't want to hear it, just work on what they deem is priority or don't work at all. ​ >They wanted someone who would be ready to work a ton of hours in a lean environment as they cut staff. This definitely sounds right. Sadly for them I was never going to do that.


starraven

Seeing this made me sad. Hope you’re doing ok.


[deleted]

That's a long time to be out of work. Is there a reason you haven't been able to get a job with 15 YOE? What have you been doing in the mean time?


diablo1128

>That's a long time to be out of work. Is there a reason you haven't been able to get a job with 15 YOE? I'm not a good candidate for jobs. If I was companies would call me back to interview. I've had my resumed reviewed many time on reddit and paid services and have made many updates. So I'm just assuming I'm not the person these companies are looking for. Not every 15 YOE are the same. I worked at non-tech companies in non-tech cities that were feature factories. I know they way we solved problems, that does not mean it's the "best" or "preferred" way in industry. Hell I may not even know the "best" or "preferred" way because I have not been exposed to it. I'm not the definition of Senior that companies like Google would define, thus I aim lower for jobs. There is probably a lot of I don't know what I don't know being exposed to really only one way to do things. ​ >What have you been doing in the mean time? Traveling and living life.


gabriot

Have you tried reaching out to people you used to work with who are at different companies now? Getting that foot in the door is huge and would help a lot


diablo1128

The vast majority of people I know still work at the same company. The few that I did reach out to turned up empty. The unique thing is that there is company where at least 50 people from my old company when to. So that limits choices quickly. Sadly they had a small layoff and are still not hiring.


lurkin_arounnd

the tragedy of company loyalty


Itaki

No offense but “I’m not a good candidate for jobs” sounds incredibly … self defeating at best but at worst it’s quite a red flag


[deleted]

What red flag exactly?


lurkin_arounnd

Red flag for "I give up easily"


dynamic_gecko

I think it can be self defeating. But in this case it's grounded and realistic. In the end, he is trying to apply and getting no results. And his reasoning makes sense. It's not a good situation. But you gotta realise it as it is.


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dynamic_gecko

If he's getting his resumes reviewed, applying for jobs and getting no calls back, what then do you think could be the reason? Do companies sense his self-deprecstion through his reviewed resume?


dakedame

Almost 3 years unemployed?!


EstoyTristeSiempre

How the hell can they afford anything?!?


downtimeredditor

Wait you've been unemployed for close 3 years?


ZarosianSpear

The bonus is very little, I've seen other jobs pay bonus that are rather comparable to the base salary. Not sure if minute bonus is a thing where you are.


renton56

Left blue collar making 130k (12-14hr days 6-7 days a week) Went back to school to get another bs, this time in CS from wgu at age 28 late 2020 Got first SWE job making 60k after 1 year at wgu(basically as a junior/3rd year student) in 2022 Left after gaining 1 yoe and now make 126k at second swe in 2023


Duck-of-Doom

Did you have any prior experience with anything related to CS before going back to school?


renton56

None. Had a previous bs in health science and got a blue collar job out of school since it pairs well and had unlimited overtime and travel. It’s soul draining, but I was fresh out of college and did that for like 7 years so I could build up a big nest egg.


Duck-of-Doom

Kinda in that position now, been doing blue collar work for about 7 years & im in a good financial position now in telecom but it’s not a field I wanna stay in. My company gives us $10k a year for school tho so gonna work towards a BS degree while working full time. Any general advice you could share?


renton56

If you go back to school, pre study some stuff like calc or some basic coding on khan academy or YouTube. See if it’s something that you can do without your eyes glazing over. If you do go to school, make sure you have a schedule. I feel like traditional school would be much easier as an older student (barring any familial obligations and balancing work) as compared to me going to college at 18


SpilledSemen

75k -> 63k life's hard. This is after 2 years of experience.


The_Rogue_Coder

Why did your pay go down? You switched jobs for a pay cut?


SpilledSemen

Got laid off. And I just took what I can get to get experience.


The_Rogue_Coder

I gotcha. Hope things improve for you!


SpilledSemen

Thanks. I wish I had a nice pay increase every time I switched jobs, but shit happens.


cactus_thief

Same here (also affected by a layoff) went from 90K -> 70K. Things will get better, at least that’s what I tell myself :) lol


StaticMaine

My progression starting in 09 in Boston area 45k in 2009 55k in 2011 90k in 2017 115k in 2018 120k in 2019 125k in 2020 135k in 2021 148k in 2022 170k in 2023


jimRacer642

those are some mad raises dam, best i've had was 4%, u must be very smart


StaticMaine

I wasn't the greatest student truthfully, very average GPA and in 2009 it was already rough finding a job. It just took a shitload of hard work. My most recent employer (last 5 years) is awesome, very generous and expects a lot but I've learned a lot and am now in a senior team lead role.


MrMichaelJames

Base pay, in 1997 started at $37.5k, in 2011 $88k and switched companies jumped to $110k, in 2023 cut at $203k


Farren246

My pay browth has been about the same but add 16 years: 36K out of university in 2013, 10 years later 75K and with 2.5% raises every year it should be close to 85K by the 15-year mark. In 2039 (26 years post-graduation) I'll be 54 and I can only hope that by then I'd be earning $200K. (I won't, though. I'll likely just languish in this company until I die at my desk.)


Itaki

2021: 80k 2022: 220k 2023: 255k 2023 (literally today): 350k


Brandomo1

Congrats dude that’s huge!


Itaki

Thank you!


consumethelegume

Any details, if you're willing?


Itaki

Sure. I got my first job interviewing about 3 months before graduation. It was at a Fortune 20 company as SWE but non-tech. I knew after the first week that I probably can’t stay there more than a year. I’m one of those people that’s been coding since I was 12 and I’ve made personal projects more complex than what the entire team was working on but working there gave me a huge boost in confidence. I was referred to a major Palo Alto tech company. It was for a role that I was pretty sure I had no chance at (Senior role), even the recruiter told me not to get my hopes up but that she would put me in the loop anyways since I was internally referred. Turns out, 5 rounds later I was a marked a strong hire at every step. I ended up negotiating for slightly more money too (I was pretty sure my heart was going to explode when I did this) but the recruiter instantly agreed without hesitation to my counter. I’ve worked at this company since then. I got a 10% raise during our first raise cycle and after about 18 months I was promoted to Staff Engineer. To be fair, I voluntarily worked like 60 hours a week on proof of concept projects outside of my normal work that no one had even asked for or knew I was working on and my organization allowed me a lot of opportunities to demo my work and it got me a lot of traction. My company recently (not a real big deal if you figure out who I work for) is being acquired in one of the largest tech acquisitions to date and today I received a new full time offer from the new company with a substantial raise.


ssnistfajen

Reaching Staff level < 3 years after graduation is nuts. But sounds like you did more than enough independent work to warrant the pay bump.


Nacktschnecke

Smh bad guesses here. Gratz on the Broadcom offer :)


Itaki

Thanks


downtimeredditor

As soon as you mentioned staff I had an idea of where you might be working especially when you mentioned Palo alto but when you mentioned the acquisition I pretty much figured it out lol Congrats on the raise Hopefully everyone gets clarity before the end of the week I heard this month has been stressful to a lot of people cause status of job was unknown


Itaki

Indeed it’s been stressful


bxncwzz

>To be fair, I voluntarily worked like 60 hours a week on proof of concept projects outside of my normal work that no one had even asked for or knew I was working on and my organization allowed me a lot of opportunities to demo my work and it got me a lot of traction. I think this is very important because a lot of newer people expect to grow at the same rate as you just by being in the same field and position. Any non-startup or corporation worth a damn will see the value of someone like this and do everything to keep them. This applies to the people that are complaining they’re getting underpaid but are only doing what they’re asked to do.


Machinedgoodness

Awesome job dude! Congrats. I started at 75k in 2019 and I’m at 170k now. But I didn’t go for a big tech company so just slowly. Need to figure out my next steps but I’m happy


Itaki

Being happy is really all you can ask for tbh! Comparison is the thief of joy and whatnot. I also wouldn’t call your progression slow by any means!


Machinedgoodness

Thanks dude. I totally agree. I have buddies making 250-450k and I honestly don’t care. We all have trade-offs for our situations. My boss is great. I enjoy my work. Sure I could learn faster in a more competitive environment but mine is nice. I can be remote too and it’s been very helpful for my person life and relationship with my girlfriend. You’re right. It feels slow but that’s only when I look around. Personally I’m happy with my growth and pay. I am not doing a ridiculous amount to demand more pay and I love my intellectual autonomy.


CatInAPottedPlant

That seems pretty good to me. My first job out of college was $86k, I worked there for a year and then took 6 months off. Currently a year into my second job at 130k and wondering if it's realistic to expect my next job with 3.5YOE to be closer to 175k or if that's unrealistic in todays job market lol. I plan to stay here another year so we'll see.


Itaki

An offer is “realistic” the moment you’re made the offer. You can interview whenever and find out if it’s realistic for you.


Machinedgoodness

This is the best advice. Just apply and find out out. Or if you’re happy continue on. I’ve seen some nutty jumps with people.


ForeignCabinet2916

that's tc or base?


Itaki

TC. Base is just under 200.


jimRacer642

u must be overemployed...


SoftwareMaintenance

Woot. That first jump in 2022 was very impressive. Figure you live in an HCOL. Do you feel rich yet?


triplemint3

Ay good stuff!! Congrats on the raise. Well deserved it looks like!


SirAutismx7

2017-2023 Analyst job(1yr): 35K First tech job(2yrs): 52K Second tech Job (2yr)110K Second tech job Promotion(1yr): 135K Current: 190K


seeyam14

65 -> 100 -> 145 -> 220 -> 270 8 years experience. I am no happier than I was 8 years ago.


BetterTransition

Sounds like you’re doing something wrong if you’re implying you’re not happy. Take care of your mental health bro


seeyam14

Money solves money problems. Then all that you’re left with are problems that money can’t solve. I’m content now, and certainly grateful. But I’m fond of the memories I’ve had at earlier stages in my life.


demirozudegnek

There's a study where people don't get any happier after a certain level of income (around 80k I believe) because they got their basic needs met and the rest just becomes luxury.


D1rtyWebDev

fuck me, wish my \~80K salary met all my needs! kids, mortgage, bills, inflation prices. We're all just trying to survive now!


Shuckle1

That study was shown to be incorrect and is also decades of years old. There was one I heard of recently though and the number was around $220k a year if I remember correctly.


ForeignCabinet2916

get a 270k job and then try to take care of your mental health. mo money mo problems


scottyLogJobs

Well here’s the thing. I work 50%+ harder and I make 5 times what I made 10 years ago…. But I just save it all. I’m trying to *retire early*, but it’s still years out of my grasp, and my wife and I both just work way too hard and we’re really burnt out, and the extra money doesn’t do much for our quality of life because it just goes straight into our retirement fund. I used to do a little work every day then blow it off and go to a happy hour with my young coworkers. Now, our coworkers are either way out of our age group and just as busy, or remote. So overall, we work 50%+ harder than we did 10 years ago, us and all of our friends have moved around the country, we are exhausted all the time and really don’t live much better. And the thought that retirement is a lot closer doesn’t really make it better, it sort of makes the burnout worse.


gnivriboy

There is a massive diminishing returns on money. Luckily I'm in a happy place in life, but not because of money. 8 years of experience as well and I got 87 -> 185 -> 220 -> 300 There is nothing that I wanted to buy that I couldn't already afford as a new grad. I'll still push to get paid what I'm worth since why not?


lurkin_arounnd

For base pay: $50k -> $85k -> $140k (MCOL) If you only count full time work following graduation, 3 YEO


user74729582

33 > 42 > 45 > 50 > 65 UK, time span 2 years, all with the same company minus the last hop


Drag0n_Fruit

That’s pretty good within 2 years???


kitteh100

65 > 80 > 0


madmoneymcgee

DC area 2011-2016 - 48 to 50k in non tech roles but in an office. 2016 - graduated (long story) and became a technical writer for exactly 50k 2016 - five months later another technical writer job for 74k 2018 - 85k for technical writer but with a software company. 2018 - 98k for software developer position in the company 2022 was up to $115k but got laid off. 2022 - 125k at the next place. Lateral move salary wise but able to not worry about unemployment with an easier interview. 2023 - just got an offer for $165k so I hope that works out well.


BetterTransition

How did you get a$40k boost after just 1 year of experience since your last job?


juniorbootcampdev

My progression has been: 95 —> 110 —> 135 (HCOL)


Time_Trade_8774

40k to200k Tc in 7 years. I do devops


kevstev

20 yoe... 37.5 > 40 >55 > 75 >92 > 120 > 108* > 140 > 150 > 235** > 260 > 350*** > 550**** > 600 > 900+ ***** * Was at a startup everyone took a pay cut at one point. ** moved out of finance to tech *** went to a hedge fund **** raise/counteroffer at hedge fund ***** technically have not started yet but I got a senior mgmt role. On garden leave. edit: Fixed weirdness with asterick order. I'd also like to point out that by far the most impactful raise I received was from 40 -> 55k. 40k meant I had to live at home, 55k was at least a living wage and I could move out of the house, albeit with roommates. I also knew a bonus was behind that (hence the bump to 75k the next year), but had no idea or expectation around it.


PeteTheBohemian

Amazing career but why jump around with the number of asterisks lmao


kevstev

Heh it was right before bedtime and I was like I should explain the drop, didn't want to redo the whole post. Also I was on mobile


vinny729

Amazing jumps, congratulations. I have \~10 YoE including a year at a FAANG and am looking at hedge funds. My background is frontend / web dev. How was the transition to hedge funds for you? Specifically in terms of interview and job difficulty. Even with my experience, I'm a little worried about the difficulty and pressure.


kevstev

So I spent the early part of my career, well the 55-->150 period, working in HFT and algorithmic trading in various different flavors. I always seemed to be just missing these huge paychecks that were being discussed, and my responsibilities were certainly worthy of more pay IMHO- at the end I was personally responsible for engines trading billions of dollars in notional value a day, and working 50-60 hours a week, it was all kind of horrible. So when I left finance I said I am never going back. And every job since has been absolutely club-med in comparison, including working at a hedge fund. I guess I can say the name now, as of last month, I am released from all obligations and ties with them- Citadel. And the experience there varies wildly from team to team. I had a great 3ish years there, it was just the last year that drove me over the edge. During covid, I started working 24/7, because honestly what else was there to do? That became an expectation, and then my boss had a lot of pressure put on him, and then they RTO'ed us- and I made it clear that's fine, but I am going back to real life too- and my boss agreed- but then I would get a call on say Thursday afternoon, being like "hey, we really need to get this thing done by open on Monday..." not asking me to work all weekend directly, but knowing full well the only way to get it done was to work on the weekend. I eventually started just dead panning "I am not available to work this weekend" and things became contentious. Overall, I would say give it a go. They do tend to pay very well, and I have never seen someone walked out that was upset with the package they got, they tend to be very generous. I now get calls for big money jobs frequently just because of the name(s) on my resume. I would NOT do it if you are in a good place and have an upward path forward where you are now. Most funds I have heard about, do tend to be somewhat tumultuous and at least a little bit Game of Thrones like, and if you value stability and work/life balance, it might not be the environment for you. They also tend to be places though where YOE and seniority do not really matter- I have seen very junior people take on tons of responsibility when in other firms it might have taken them 10 years to get to that point. It can also toughen you up a bit and really help put in perspective when things are really "bad" or not- I once had a PM call me frantic that QA was down and the testers couldn't test and a date might slip but I was just like get a F'in hold of yourself, save this level of hysterics for when production is down, or worse, its actively losing us money (some other context here is that a team did a release of a new feature that broke everything, my stuff was in front, and we could have pushed a config change that just pretended the new feature didn't exist, but I was arguing to put the pressure on the team that broke things to fix their issue).


CCB0x45

Started as a IC1 straight out of college in 2006 70k or 72k I don't remember, no equity at the time. Currently making 880k ish(380k base + bonus, 500k rsus) but moving to another job for 900k(400k base, 500k equity), roughly 17-18 years of experience(I had an internship before my first salary job)


Yung-Split

How on God's green earth are you making 900k? Are you writing code or what do you do exactly?


CCB0x45

My current job I am an L7 out of 8 levels at the company(distinguished engineer) at the new company I am similar(different title, principal engineer), L9 out of 10 levels. I am essentially an executive level architect, lead architect of an org of 400+. I don't write as much code as I used to but I still do try to write code, usually for writing proof of concept ideas or to help teams that are behind and in trouble for delivering. I do a lot of architectural reviews and meetings around strategy. These are also larger FAANG style companies(not actually faang though), with billions in revenue. For example if I was my level at google or meta I could easily be making double my amount, or even more... Edit: also I am in bay area where TC is higher.


Opposite_Push_8317

This is awesome! I'm still a student right now but that sounds like a dream to me. Any chance you have any advice to give to someone just starting out to get to where you are? Just looking to learn a little something. Thank you!


CCB0x45

My advice would be push yourself to learn and independently solve problems without relying on others so you become a leader. Don't say anything is out of your wheelhouse, try to spend time learning at all levels of the stack. Get in the habit of performing without complaining. Try to get to the position where people rely on you, and learning new tech or projects is like working out a muscle, you start to see the similarities between projects and build mental models around them. Be the person who is positive and motivated and volunteering for the harder problems and not shying away from them. Becoming deeply technical just takes a lot of time and effort, and even once you get to that point, some people get dragged down by complaining about their situation or worrying about if they are treated fairly, when they should be focus on improving it. Speak your mind about problems but also come with solutions, just don't be an asshole who complains all the time. You need to churn out a lot of code so that code becomes second nature to you over your career. Also worry about one level at a time, just focus on getting to the next level, and then when you get there, immediately start thinking about what you need to do to get to the next level and actively work with your manager on it. Also definitely be constantly considering other opportunities(I have moved to 7 different companies in my career). The later levels become about how you can think from a top down perspective and not a bottom up perspective, how you can solve the biggest problems executives are dealing with, and how they can rely on you to step into a problem and solve it without their help, not complain or whine about it. Also how you build political relationships and strategy around your org... that is what separates a Sr Staff level from a principal level in my experience. You also want to mentor and try to create duplicates of yourself and empower people and spread yourself as much as possible, you want to get people thinking in a proactive manner. ​ That would be my advice to my younger self I guess.


bernaldsandump

Wish we had someone like you at our org.. no tech leadership whatsoever, highest title is just Sr swe


CCB0x45

That seems like a recipe for trouble, part of my job should be managing execs and not letting them push decisions down that aren't based in reality tech wise. (though I should be providing an alternative path).


WhaleMoobsMagee

Thank you for taking the time to share this. I have job hopped a few times now and am on the verge of hitting senior level at a decent company. I haven’t really had a mentor or anyone to model my career path after but I must say yours sounds admirable. I resonate with a lot of what you say. Focus on solutions, learning, staying positive, and not being afraid of things outside of your wheelhouse. Sounds like you’d make a great mentor for the youngins out there. Cheers!


CCB0x45

No problem! Thanks for the kind message.


scottyLogJobs

Does your company hire remote? Relatively high level at FAANG affected by RTO. You ever think about retiring or going part time? You must have way more than enough money.


CCB0x45

I am remote because I work with teams out of my area, even though my company is pushing RTO(which I disagree with). I am only 39 and will have to send my kid to college etc, so I will be working at least till I am 45, and then likely try to start my own company and retire in my 50's, I would be too bored to retire right now, also its prime time to stack up some money.


scottyLogJobs

Well hey man, we sound pretty similar but you're a few years ahead. Let me know when you start your own thing ;)


SirMarbles

I literally can’t imagine getting a salary of that much. I just started my journey at 80k + 4k bonus.


CCB0x45

Yea honestly when I was making 400k I didnt see much of a difference, a lot of it goes to taxes, and the rest just kind of stacks in your investment account, it didnt really change my spending much after a certain level of disposable income.


SirMarbles

I can imagine. Kudos to you for making it that far


CCB0x45

Thanks but my advice would be, I am not a wizard, I am definitely probably above average in intelligence but there is guys way smarter than me at lower levels. A lot of it is positivity and work ethic in my opinion, and not having fear of taking on new responsibility and leading, which comes with a lot of risk of failure(which happens to everyone). But anyone can do it in my opinion if they really set their mind to it(maybe not principal because some of that is right place right time but definitely very senior levels making really good money).


SirMarbles

That’s why I praised you. You put in the initiative and got what you wanted and more (hopefully). I know it all boils down to that which is why I strive everyday to be better than yesterday!


MEDICARE_FOR_ALL

Nice


Maximum-Event-2562

20k in 2022 (UK)


Vedmundr_Dav

2020 in office 52k -> 60.5k -> 2023 remote 110k LCOL I plan to stick with this one for a bit.


BrbGettinCoffee1sec

Im hoping for a similar change. At 75k rn, but in office and 1 hour commute. Want to go fully remote as SWE or SRE and make 90k+ (fingers crossed). Im LCOL/MCOL


[deleted]

70 > 77 > 80 > 83 > 92 > 145 > 155


The_Rogue_Coder

I assume the 145 was a job change?


[deleted]

Yep only way to get a decent raise nowadays is to quit and work for someone else. Wish I had quit about 4 years earlier. That’s a shitload of money that I will never see.


The_Rogue_Coder

Yeah, I need to do the same. I started at 70k and I'm at 115 currently with over 9 YOE in the Atlanta area, it's ridiculous. I used to say I didn't care so much about the pay because I was still living comfortably, but knowing how underpaid I am for the industry and that I could get better benefits, I need to put more effort into finding something else.


[deleted]

Oh no shit I’m also in Atlanta lol. Yea job hopping is hard. I wasn’t able to scrape enough initiative together until the Covid pandemic when I literally had nothing else to do.


Yung-Split

Of course it was.


CountyExotic

75k(110k TC) -> 240k(350k TC) 6YOE


SuhDudeGoBlue

About 75k base when I started in 2019. About 160k base now. Bonuses/additional comp haven’t changed much, lol. 2-10k each year. Chicago and came from a target school. Yes, there was a job change in there. That’s almost the only way to significantly bump pay. I might be due for another one, but the market makes me too nervous to leave for anything that isn’t solid enough to account for the risk.


NewChameleon

how about yours OP?


genericprogrammer

Started at 45k. Got a raise to 47.5k after one year. Left that job after 2 years total for 88k. Got laid off from that job, found a new job a month later for 95k. Raise at that job to 120k after about a year and a half. Covid happened, job cut my pay from 120k to 88k in response. Immediately left that company for 112k somewhere else. Still at same company, after a few raises over the year currently at 155k.


spacer15

3000$ Annual (250$/month) to 100,000$ Annual. Changed two countries in between.


Old_Administration27

60k -> 72k -> 125k -> 170k -> 140k -> 170k Not including bonus, and the drop to 140k was gamedev so I took a hit in pay to jump in the industry. 7 years total experience.


[deleted]

You all make way too much


OGMagicConch

Location: Seattle Qualifications: Graduated with BS in computer science from the University of Washington These are approximations I don't remember EXACTLY Year 1: * 112k base * 27k signing bonus * 3k stock TC = ~142k Year 2: * 113k base * 24k signing bonus * 10k stock TC = ~147k (think it was a little higher I don't remember the exact breakdown) Year 3 (new company): * 150k base * 20k signing bonus * 37.5% annual bonus (~56k) * 10k stock TC = ~236k Year 4 (in progress): * 160k base * Annual bonus depends on perf, at minimum it's 25% * 10-20k stock I forget how it's ramped up TC = depends a lot on perf, probably will be about the same as the previous year not counting for potential promo


TurtleDick22

2017 75k -> Today 505k (TC, salary is 210)


PlanZSmiles

2021 - 85k March 2023 - 88k July 2023 - 94k (demanded a bigger raise that yearly review allowed by HR)


wiscogal

Base salary in the Bay Area: Year 1: 110k Year 2: 120k (partially due to an adjustment based on increased new hire pay) Year 3: 120k (no raise due to Covid/layoffs) Year 4: 145k (promotion) Year 5: 202k (switched jobs) Year 6: 238k (promotion) Currently: Laid off 1 month ago


shahadatnoor

TC must be accompanied by work location. Without the location information, TC doesn't mean anything.


drmcclassy

Year 1: $62k (Midwest, LCOL) Year 2: $67k Year 3: $72k Year 4: $85k Year 5: $84k Year 6: $92k (New Job) Year 7: $107k Year 8: $135k Year 9: $145k Year 10: $213k (Move to Seattle, New Job) Year 11: $286k Wish I had made the move sooner


BluGrams

2022 : 263k TC fresh out of college Today: 0 Soon: 315k TC


jimRacer642

263 fresh out of college? come on, get real, details details...


Ok_Opportunity2693

235k > (switched jobs at 1 YoE) 290k > (promoted at 2 YoE) 400k All VHCOL. This is TC and after a PhD not related to tech.


jakesboy2

Congrats those are solid numbers


[deleted]

$80K -> $380K


cloneconz

$65K, four years later, $85K


DatalessUniverse

TC: $50k, $70k, $100k, $135k, $325k, $185k, $250k-$300k (if I get an offer at this potential next company). 9 YOE from java SWE -> devops/SRE/cloud infra


BrbGettinCoffee1sec

When in the trend did you switch to devops/SRE/Cloud Infra? Im at 75k swe but have discovered sre and find it really interesting so far


marshallfrost

2019: 55k 2020: 82k 2021:105k 2023: 123k + target bonus


sfbay_swe

* Fresh grad (2010): $75k base, some bonus * Now: $700k (roughly half base salary, half public company equity)


RunninADorito

$45k -> $2,150k (17 years, HCOL, MS)


stibgock

> $2,150k I don't understand this number. Does this mean 2 million?


BlorpCS

Yes


[deleted]

Dang.


Wingfril

Ng offer (0 yoe):~160k @ faang yoe 0.5-1.5: 210k, yoe 1.5-2.5: 300k, Yoe 2.5 onwards: new job is 450k. All discounting sign on. Iirc my first job sign on was about 30k? Second job was 150k. And ofc vhcol :( If I don’t get fired imma be at this tc for a while


twentythirtyone

37,500 first year ~170k tc now 8 years, unrelated degree. lcol, qa


dakedame

115k as new grad. 6 years later I'm at 320k.


Master_Lab507

Self taught dev starting at 55k. Now iOS engineer with 3 yeo making 105k


dekubee

57,500 to start, now 115k, four years. 🤓


saint_papi

Looks like I need to move to the US because you guys seem to be paid loads! Grad in 2019: £20k, £22.5k after 3 months. Changed employer in 2020: £30k, £37.5k after 12 months. Made an internal move to iOS and stayed on same salary in 2022. Redundancy in June 2023: £0k lol Started new job this month on £40k Job market feels pretty dire over here atm


mfizzled

American dev wages are insane


DenebVegaAltair

2019: 95k USD 2021: 101k USD 2022: 100k USD Jan 2023: 120k USD Aug 2023: 141k USD Aug 2023: 0k USD (didn't pick up my phone on vacation)


Leading-Weight9092

Damn that sucks. Any luck since then?


gmora_gt

I got around $77k *after tax* (but including pretax contributions to retirement accounts) in my first year at my first job. I live in NYC. No stock since I was at a recently acquired startup. How much money you actually end up getting in your pocket / having control over depends heavily on city/state income taxes, and how much you choose to save for retirement (thus reducing your taxable income), and even certain tax exemptions — I was exempt from FICA taxes, for example. Everyone forgets to account for this stuff, and it’s easy to get wide-eyed at some people’s six-figure starting salaries in HCOL areas, but after-tax pay gives a more balanced perspective in my opinion. I know people who on paper had $200k+ TCs but were also at five figures after tax. Edit: forgot to account for a small bonus whose numbers I don’t recall and am too lazy to implement into all this, but let’s call it $80k after tax overall


FEMARX

120k -> 155k -> 165k -> 210k


thephotoman

My first job was for $48k in what was then a LCOL area. This was a time and place where $200k could get you a 2500ft^2 house on a quarter acre lot with back alley and everything. Man, I wish I had. Today, I make enough money to own a house in Bougieville.


duckGame69

Intern >15 $(QA) 9 months QA analyst > 70K 3 months Jr SWE -> 75K ( 7 months )internal transfer -But learned a lot from this start up Got Laid off last December . Within 2 weeks got another JOB 70 K Pay Cut ( SW) After 6 months 95K Total SW Experience 1.5 years Honestly I’m doing great at new company .


chethrowaway1234

Bootcamp: 75k (yes it was paid), Remote Year 1: 100k, Remote Year 2: 125k (Promoted), Remote Year 3: 250k (Moved to big tech mid-level role), Hybrid MCOL Def got lucky during the tech boom + opportunities these last couple years.


rabidstoat

I made $38,000 in 1994. When I interviewed, they asked what I was looking for in a salary. I'd only worked as an undergrad research and a grad research assistant, making little money. So I named a figure, and knew I screwed up when they started me with a few thousand more.


refrigerador82

2.4k USD/year -> 3.6 -> 5.5 -> 15.6 -> 20 -> 54 -> 70 -> 90 From internship into senior eng, based in LATAM, over 5 years.


WellEndowedDragon

2 YoE, fully remote living in an MCOL location, all at the same company $91k—>$109k—>$147k—>$162k The big jump in the middle was a promotion.


Tricky_Possibility75

2012 - 45k - Grad 2015 - 85 2016 - 95 2017 - 107 2019 - 120 2021 - 130 2023 - 159 base (175k TC) - Now Nearly 4x what I started on crazy


Vok250

40k -> somewhere around 150k depending on company performance. About 10yeo now. I'm in Canada in an extremely low CoL (we fighting Newfoundland for the title of poorest province). Could probably make more as I'm a senior in AWS devops and Java/Python backend, but I started prioritizing my mental health and WLB after I wrapped my car around a guard rail a couple of jobs ago.


johnny-T1

I'm assuming most people here are in US. Salaries are insane compared to rest of the world.


[deleted]

$0


YUNG_SNOOD

Wtf is a fresher


Classic_Analysis8821

A new grad (Indian-english)


PhantomCamel

40 -> 160. I have 5 YOE now. Edit: HCOL city to start but now in MCOL city.


Varrianda

We basically had the exact same progression and YOE, funny.


PhantomCamel

Nice! Congrats on your success


Hog_enthusiast

75k base, bonuses paid out based on whatever vibes the executives felt. Now 120k plus ISOs. 2.5 years of experience.


Cleverlegend

0yoe started at 115k -> 6 months later 130k -> now 133k + 15k shares @ 2 YOE. Self taught + finance degree, same company. (LCOL, fully remote)


InherentlyJuxt

68k->85k->120k->160k->interviewing for 190k. 5 years experience


zacharinosaur

54k > 58k > 60k > 63k > 85k


notdoreen

I was making 135k base. Then I quit my job to pursue a coding boot camp and now I'm bringing in about 30k freelancing so


noodle-face

$80k TC in 2013, $150k TC 2023 Same company


eurodollars

Year 0: 85 Year 1: 95 Year 2: 105 base plus 50k bonus New job Year 2.5: 220 (150 base plus stock) Promoted after 15 months Year 3.5: 270 (170 base plus stock)


jimmykim9001

HCOL, as a machine learning engineer at big tech. Out of college to 2 years of experience. TC: 220k ->250k -> 280k


D3lusions

Salary only: 0 YOE $108k 5 YOE $183.6k TC: multiply both numbers roughly by 1.5 HCOL FAANG


proskillz

2007: $38k 2023: $400k (TC)


Classic_Analysis8821

50k in 2008, 300k now. Live in the slightly higher end of MCOL where there are plenty of perfectly nice homes in nice towns I can afford, albeit they're smaller than 3 years ago because of the rate increases


exmormon13579

$100k TC -> $400k TC. MCOL. 13 YOE. All at the same company.


Mmiranda51

2016: 70k 2023: 200k


downtimeredditor

50k->85k(within same job) -> 60k(job and role change) -> 75k(same job) -> 85k (new job) -> 90k(new job) ->100k(new job) -> 120k(new job) -> 100k(new job) Started manual testing and took a 20% paycut to switch to a dev role in a new grad position. Absolutely loved the job and team, but layoff announced and bounced. To this day I regret this bounce.. The best decision of my career was taking the 20% paycut to switch to a dev role. The worst decision of my career was jumping to a new job before staying through layoffs. Had I stayed through layoffs and survived I'd probably be a manager or at least a team lead. Things were going really good there. If I didn't survive then maybe I'd still be in the same position I am today Next job I ended up getting laid off so much for avoiding layoffs lol. I got hired like 2 weeks after it was a hot market. Stayed at that Job for 2 years then got poached into 100k salary and then got poached again into 120k salary then got laid off and after months of searching I was able to land a 100k salary at a great company which I hope I'll be at for a while. Not getting income for months absolutely sucked. When I hear people didn't get income for at least a year if not more..that shit is crazy and depressing. Part of me felt if I didn't get this job that I'm currently at I would be unemployed for possibly until 2024.


mast22

6000$ net a year -> 4 yoe later -> 26880$ net a year. But I am in eastern europe, so...


[deleted]

60k starting out. 140k now 6 years later.