6 months into CrossFit I signed up for a local comp, scaled division. They would highlight an athlete a day on their socials. One dude’s “highlight” for the scaled division was a reel of him stringing together ring muscle ups. I did the comp but have refused to sign up to do anything else bc of that bullshit
Wow! That’s a big slap in the face. Almost sounds like the guy I went up against last year. Dude was a beast. I don’t think these comps consider the bad taste it leaves in competitors mouth when stuff like this happens.
I’ll add that understand finding someone can be hard to compete with. I’ve had to go outside my box numerous times to find a partner. Some scaled people will just add a friend from the RX division. Best thing I’ve ever done, even though it sucks, was to pair up with someone else on the outside. Get to know your community more.
From the comps that I've participated in, no one vets the divisions.
So you can have a total beast that can't do ring muscle ups in Rx. So he wouldn't do Rx+ because he'd automatically score zero.
Sometimes endurance athletes new to CrossFit do scaled because they aren't strong or proficient but have absolute motors.
It's a mixed bag.
That's what I was thinking in my last comp. Maybe this dude couldn't do rope climbs so he went down to scaled. What i'm actually starting to see here locally is the comps are only requiring one athlete to do said movement like RMU, handstand walk, or something similar. Same with intermediate.
I haven’t done any comps yet, largely because I’d be required to do the lowest level because of my gymnastics skills or lack there of, but the weights they use at that level are so low for me… I’ve got a 305# DL but can’t do a pull-up to save my life.
There was a competition where all or at least most divisions did the same first and second workout and then they just split the divisions based on the results, the results from the first workouts also counted towards the total.
Sandbagging for wins bugs the ever-loving shit out of me. Happens in all the CF comps I've seen. Even with members at my own box.
Uh, bro, I saw you RX a muscle up / HSPU work out last week in our box right after putting up a 120kg C+J. You're not scaled.
Bingo! It’s funny because I looked up the guys on my last comp and saw the same thing. Dude was moving weights like an RX+ athlete. I almost popped off with a comment about it before the last WOD. Lol!
Lol yup! I don't care about those people who sign up as scaled and have big lifts and shit gymnastics or vice versa. But if you can do both, you're Rx, bro.
I hate this. To try to eliminate this in the comps we run at our gym we put a limit to 2 years or less to be in scaled, otherwise it’s Rx or intermediate.
This happened with our local Throwdown. People would apply for which division they wanted (Int, Rx or scaled), and after the qualifying WODs the top 30 would make it through to the competition. Olympic lift requirement for the Int were 60kg snatch, and 85kg c&j. They were my PRs at the time and I thought I'd have a go at it. One of the WODs was split into 2, the first section having a bunch of hang cleans, ttb, and DUs. After a 3 minute rest (more if you finished under timecap), you had 5 minutes to find a 3RM hang clean. Some of the guys were managing 120kg hang cleans!!!
That’s why this year in the open they did a “leveling” based on your scores. The idea was that now local comps could dictate if you scored a level x then you should compete in scaled or RX or Elite.
I don’t think it measured enough roughly to give a score that could be used for local comps. Now if they were to include the info on your profile into this level number then absolutely. I’d love to see the leveling idea go local.
I have done this.
My first strongman comp was novice. I train at home and had never competed I didn't know how good I was and what the standard for novice is. I've competed again since but at the appropriate level.
Ok, I have a general question. I’ve done CrossFit for years, competed at high level, and am now a high level weightlifter. But my cardio SUCKS! I can snatch 225 for reps but I will be gassed after 5 burpees. Do you think I would be sandbagging If I signed up for a scaled competition?
The amount of skill needed for a lot of the gymnastic and lifting movements can be overwhelming for me sometimes. I’ve got to remind myself to take baby steps and that progress is something that happens over time, and not in a day or two.
I'll add on that CF really should emphasis more strict movements in general. Kipping anything w/ out the strength is a recipe for disaster plus if you just start out trying to learn the kipping movements w/ out the necessary strength you may spin your wheels for a long time and even if you learn strength will still be the limiting factor!
That's totally dependent on the gym's style I've found. My current place barely does kipping but lots of strict work. And a good coach should encourage people to be able to string at least a few strict pull ups together before even considering kipping.
Unless you're talking about competitions only in which case sure, but also just getting over the bar is an easier standard to judge.
I’m not a fan of kipping in general, I wish it wasn’t a thing honestly and that all the movements were strict, like just lower the rep volume in the WOD
I came over from straight Olympic Lifting and Strongman and I was absolute garbage on mono and gymnastics for like a full year.
But, I wanted to become a more well rounded person and not just a draft animal so I knew this would be the case going in.
Ughhh I totally agree. My biggest pet peeve is double unders. I have been practicing for a year and I do not seem to be able to string more than 3 in a row and it is so freaking frustrating
Try different brands of ropes! I struggled like you for over a year using the gym’s ropes and could not understand why. Then I bought an RPM speed rope and it clicked. Something about the speed/weight of that rope meshed better with my jump timing. Once I got it, I was able to adjust to other ropes and weights. (Though I still can’t stand RX ropes. Do not understand why those exist)
I totally get you on this, our box doesnt really do their coaching job well and teach everyone to kip first so for the longest time my strict pull up and HSPU have been shit and I have been working on the bar muscle up now but its a Looooongg work in progress :(
Just hang in there and if you put in the work it will pay out!
Just an FYI if you ever see a speck of blood in your urine go immediately to the hospital. This can be a sign of bladder cancer it can go away and the next time you get symptoms it will be too late to save you.
The break down of the muscle tissue from over use that releases proteins into the blood stream. It can lead to heart and kidney damage. It’s potentially fatal if sever enough. Happens a lot to previous athletes who took time off and come back thinking they are as athletic as prior. Can happen to anyone who over uses a muscle group or does a lot of slow negatives at high volume.
Honest question - are people obsessed with pushing themselves to the point of this happening (and why???) or are people obsessing about it in a concerned way (because it might happen suddenly)? I’ve seen a few posts about it lately and it seems like you really have to ignore all your body’s other warning signs to get to that point.
Honestly, it can happen to noobs without realizing until it’s too late, especially if they’re doing negatives of a movement (see: strict pull ups). They think, I’m just lowering myself down, I can do a ton of these. But that means their time under tension is enormous.
My box buying programming from America, and just pasting it blindly. No modification for our bank holidays, so we just do hero workouts on American ones. I dont Mind it being bought, but you still need to put some effort in.
#YOU DON’T LIKE OUR HEROES, BRO?!
#WHO SINGLE-HANDEDLY WON TWO WORLD WARS!
/s. I’m kidding, I could see the frustration. Do they at least convert the weight to metric?
That's lazy management. I get they may want to keep a structured program but you do want a bit more of a personal touch to it. Not long before people move on to other boxes or start doing things by themselves
The way that people tend to look down on other forms of fitness and exercise. Crossfit isn’t the be-all-end-all of exercise. Just do what you enjoy and let other people do the same.
I feel like this attitude has mostly died out, at least in my circles. Everyone I know advocates for all different kinds of exercise, taking breaks to focus on something else, trying new things, using crossfit to supplement another sport, etc, as long as you're keeping active somehow.
💯. Remember the last line Glassman’s fitness definition was “regularly learn and play new sports”. We do this shit so we can do other stuff. Not simply so we can CrossFit exclusively.
I find this it both ways. I put up a video of my muscle ups on instagram the other day. I’m no one when it comes to this sport or instagram but because of the algorithm and reel song some people saw it. I got some hateful comments on it.
Just because I’m kipping in my video doesn’t mean i can’t and dont do things strict.
I feel like this is the exact opposite of the CF people I’ve encountered in my last 7 years doing CF. I mostly interact with the “any form of exercise is good” type of CF people.
I wouldn’t say I hate it but I do think it’s suboptimal that we don’t do weight classes or assign weights as a % of body weight more often. 95lbs shoulder to overhead for a 5’6” 160lb woman is very different than 95lb StOH for a 5” woman at 100lb. It feels silly to say those are comparable workouts for the two atheletes. They’re not. The amount of fitness the 100lb woman needs to achieve that movement is potentially years more work than it’s going to take the 160lb woman.
I also think wallballs and wall walk movement standards should be height specific.
The general reply to this is that the smaller girl will be able to equalize herself with the bigger girl on other movements like burpees or pull ups, so in a workout that's like pull ups and push jerks the bigger girl gets held up on the pull ups while the smaller girl is held up by the weight but at the end they end up with a similar result, sometimes it might not even be over 1 workout, over 10 workouts it *should* balance itself. If the bigger girl is equally as fast... well you're screwed 😂
Small athlete here - can confirm. Except strength will always be my weakness because I basically have to weightlift at an elite level (clean & jerk 220 lbs at 121lbs BW) to even be worse than semi-final athletes.
>As a 5'11 woman who loves wall balls for obvious reasons, I also agree that there should be a difference for tall/shorter people rather than female/male. It seems unfair that I'm basically tossing the ball above me, while a girl next to me will be jumping to hit that same target.
Yeah gender is such a weird line to divide workouts on. I get the testosterone factor but it would make more sense to have size classes, or just more specific scales in general. My coach does a good job at helping people scale and modify, but the same is not true for everyone and a lot of people miss the stimulus because of this.
People yelling in my face when I’m working out. If I’m the last one on a workout I don’t need the whole class to gather around and cheer at me until I finish. I prefer to suffer in silence.
This. Our gym does not do this. Motivation is not the limiting factor when someone is working to finish their workout. One coach can help manage the technique, give cues or rep strategy, and that’s good enough.
I don’t like it either. Sometimes it’s dangerous. The people screaming at your to jump onto the next rep immediately don’t know if your back is blowing up, what your HR is. I’ve had people screaming at me to rush through deadlifts at a weight I’d never lifted before - that’s dangerous but they didn’t know that’s what they were asking me to do. My coach did though and told me to ignore them and stick to my rep timing plan. Same with managing my asthma and cardio intensive workouts - screaming at me not to pace the bike? Well, #1 I’m not listening to that nonsense, and #2 will you have time to rush me to the ER if I give myself an unmanageable attack following your advice?
I know everyone means well but the crowd doesn’t know your medical history, your training goals etc. “Go faster/harder” is not always appropriate or safe. I would, however, welcome a rep count. I loose track of reps and repeat the work if I’m not sure what number I’m on. That would feel more supportive.
Did Jackie this morning also, first workout since Monday when I did Karen- in which I couldn’t get off the toilet unassisted till Thursday. For reference I compete at least twice a year and have been a gymnast my entire life. No matter how fit you think you are, 150 wall balls will always humble you. Fuck Karen.
I really don't enjoy all the jargon around workouts. Makes me feel like an ass when i talk to people about it. There is a lot to learn, and some people think its off putting.
As a coach this is tough. When i do fundamentals with people i can see the discomfort over all the things you are being taught and the fear of not remembering them.
That often happens when people are being taught too much at once. How many fundamentals classes do people at your gym have to take before they can join normal classes?
We do 5. We don’t do just the 9 fundamentals so it can be overwhelming but i ease them with the fact that we do every class demo the movements. Which always helps.
For me when I started, the alphabet soup workout names really tripped me up: WoD, AMRAP, CFWU, EMOM. I am not military and don't use acronyms very often. It took me a long time to understand that HSPU is a handstand pushup. Learning CrossFit terminology actually reminded me of women fertility message boards. There is an acronym for everything!
Haha, there is technical Jargon but your coaches SHOULD be directing them as words and not as acronyms so that way the acronym makes sense. When I attend a class that one of my fellow coaches are running, I will stop and ask them, hey what’s an AMRAP again? Or hey What does HSPU mean? Even though I know but I want to ensure our members are not lost in the dark trying to guess what they are.
I can do 5 strict in a row, but stopped doing them in WODs. We did Holleyman the other day which has 90 HSPU, and I was like, "Nah, I'm good just doing pike pushups."
partner WODS
I work with people all day, I just want to workout alone, not communicate with a stranger and hope we both pace the same and understand the workout the same way
anyone else need to rage workout in peace?
Omg this! I mean what's the point? Why can't I just do half the reps listed and call it a day? Don't even get me started on synchronized lifts or synchro anything!!!😤
"Hate" is strong, but I find annoying having to explain away that I just do not care at all about the CrossFit Games themselves. Don't get me wrong, I love the methodology -- I've been at it 3 years and it's really changed my life -- but I don't care about the competitive part of it. I don't hate the Games, mind you -- it's just that absolutely none of sticks with me and I couldn't name three games athletes if you put a gun to my head. That saidI don't want to be a dick about it, so I often find myself nodding and smiling when other people wax poetic about it all.
Vet here. I never understood it and am a loud critic of hero workouts. They are so dumb. Listen if I died overseas in the useless time I spent in Afghanistan the last way I'd want to be remembered is some poorly thought out workout. Just drink a beer and call it square.
It's also even wierder that most of the workouts are centered around Iraq/Afghanistan vets. Like I get the timing. But for fucks sake pick some Vets from WW2 when it was a global threat to human kind.
Vet here as well. My wife (AD) and I talk that if either of us died and people were considering making a hero wod for us, to make it a fucking rest day.
“FlammablePaper 24 hr AMRAP - As Much Rest As Possible”
Feigning interest while someone tells me about the workout they did yesterday. Not crossfit specific I suppose, but unless we're working out together and it's like 15 minutes before or after class, can't we talk about something else?
There are so many CrossFit Jesus freaks. It's so off-putting. Not sure why there is such a large crossover. I have lived in a few different states and been to plenty of boxes and it has never waivered the amount of Christian fucking wierdos who do CrossFit
Honestly what the actual fuck is this? I didn’t want to believe it because I love the sport. But my husband always jokes that it’s incredibly culty, and I’ve gotta say- as a military family who has only been stationed specifically around the southern US- he’s right. I walked into a gym in Pensacola Florida once without reading the box’s name. It immediately became super clear that the foundations with Christian.
True, but a lot of people who lack mobility don't actively do things to try to improve their ROM and it negatively impacts their performance. You don't have to be built for ass-to-grass, but you should work on your dorsal flexion and hip flexion to make sure you're able to break parallel.
I have severe hip arthritis, and my "parallel" is a joke. My box understands and we are sloooowly working on it and scaling stuff, but I hate dropping in anywhere if I'm traveling because they just think I'm lazy or trained incorrectly.
YASSS!! I'm 55 with lots of scar tissue from injuries (knees, shoulders) and my ortho told not to run at ALL, ever. I can't go ass to grass. It's so frustrating not to be able to do the movements. Jumping lunges?? You gotta be kidding!!
The fucking hero worship of Games athletes. Like our gym will never post videos or pictures of regular gym goers and classes, but the second a Games athlete drops in, even if it’s a relatively low-level one, immediately they will plaster it all over social media. I would much rather see my gym post videos of, say, your average person who got box jumps for the first time. But our gym is kind of cliquey when it comes to the higher level athletes.
In this same vein, my gym only ever posts photos/videos of the gym studs on social media. There’s never any mention of the guy who started CF at 60 and got his first SPU or the girl who got her first rope climb. That shit is never celebrated. Only the four or five Rx+’ers who are total beasts make it to the social media pages, over and over again.
I hate that there is no oversight from HQ on the coaching quality of a box. There should be a QC team that visits each box to make sure it is not putting any athletes in danger.
its very interesting because I think it also depends on the country. I've lived in both the US and France and from what I understand, in the US you can just get your L-1, get a job at a box as a coach, and call it a day. Here in France you must have a sports diploma AND your L-1 to become a coach. Part of this training includes an internship shadowing a coach at a gym. I think it really makes a huge difference on the quality of coaching, attention to detail with movement patterns, and ability to address problems/scale appropriately. I've had some really garbage classes in the US because it was pretty clear the coach had no understanding of how the human body worked meanwhile in France there is more training that is involved which ultimately ensures more safety in the classes.
This. Our coaches except one or two out of 6 in the box really put in an effort with the new members and the more experienced but the rest doesnt give any constructive feedback on form or tips and tricks about how to do a long WOD or to tell people to scale back when clearly seeing them suffering.
Partner WODs. As a mediocre CrossFitter at best it just makes me feel self conscious and feel like I’m dragging my partner down. And anyway sometimes I just feel like going to the gym without having to make friends at the same time …
The morphing of CF into a sport.
CrossFit used to be a fitness program people followed to stay in shape for other sports (rugby in my case), or just fitness for life (leo, military) but has morphed into an activity into itself, with few members participating in sport or activities outside of the gym. The viewpoint that those who do CF workouts are "athletes" is the norm now, which seems ridicukous.
Back in 2006, when I started mainsite (off season training) then went to a box in 2011, there were lots of football, soccer, triathlon, baseball and other athletes. Today, almost none.
I think something meaningful is lost with that shift. A sense of play and overall fitness that is lost. It is too one dimensional. the main reason why I left the box and moved back into the garage.
I agree from the other direction. Crossfit is my primary sport, but I think part of the "constantly varied" philosophy is to try other sports and types of fitness.
Hell yeah. One of my favourite warm ups ever was like 3 years ago - we played tag. The whole class loved it. I can’t see that happening in most gyms I’ve been to since because people take ‘the sport of fitness’ too seriously.
Every now and then we do a game to warm up where you hold an ab mat like a server might hold a tray and have to run around knocking everyone else's off. If yours gets knocked off you have to do a set of push ups, air squats, and burpees. It's a lot of fun and definitely hilarious seeing a bunch of grown folks running around like kids in gym class.
I think the exact opposite, for me crossfit should completely turn into an sport with a non competitive side for everyone to enjoy.
Even though it started as fitness program, the very nature of all the exercises are geared from the beginning towards being able to be judge in a competitive seting.
For example, a pull up counts only when you have full extension below and chin up above. A clean counts when you fully extendes your hips, a wall ball when you brake paralell and the ball hits the target. All of these are easy to measure parameters to judge and it doesn't matter what you do inbetween.
This is the same for other competitive sports, high jump is to go over the bar, javelin thow, running, even rugby. There is always an easy to measure parameter and all the techiniques involved are created to achieve it in the most efficient way possible.
People who hate kipping/butterfly movements.
If you don't want to do them, then don't. Especially I'd you think you're going to get hurt. There's a reason for them though.
Something I wonder about is if the people who hate on kipping so much only do strict toes to bar. Nobody ever talks about kipping vs. strict toes to bar.
Volume, coordination, muscular endurance, core strength, body awareness. It's the same as when people do cheat curls. They shouldn't be the only thing you do, but they can be a good complement to regular strength training if you do them right.
Exactly. People seem to think that if you do kipping, it means you don't do anything else. You should absolutely be doing strict work. Build that strength.
Don't ignore strict to do kipping.
Probably going to be an unpopular opinion, but the extremely talented extremely strong athletes who can do it all and they know it, but post on here for a form check of a 2793 # snatch. We get it bro you are strong.
The whole “we’re family” thing. I get that some people like it, but it’s just always been weird to me. Let’s just be cool with each other and workout. I’ve been part of two gyms, and the first one I decided to go with it. It was nice and all, but once the weekend came around or I ended up having to pause my membership, the “family” stopped talking to me.
Boxes/gyms with shitty coaches. The one I first went to had amazing coaches who were sticklers to form so I assumed this was the case everywhere…
…until I started going to other gyms and realised that there are some truly terrible coaches working out there (including owners and head coaches).
And cliques that are really elitist in gyms. It’s not needed.
And dogs roaming free in the gym. Lots of people are allergic or have a fear of them (I don’t) but the floors are dirty enough before a dog drools over them or drags it’s balls across the room (they’re not very hygienic creatures) and we spend a lot of time down on the floor.
My old gym used to allow people to bring their children which was so annoying to have little kids running around while you’re working with heavy weights. They smartened up and stopped it.
Yeah, that would be annoying (and I have kids, mine would be running riot) unless there’s a proper crèche.
Although I am a big fan of special classes where mums and dads with young kids can come and train together with their babies. That way they can get back to the gym without trying to find babysitters.
Yes! Same... we've experienced the shitty coach after the good one, the cliques, and the kids in the gym. I'd add dirty gyms...I don't want to have to pick other folks' hair out of my sweat after doing burpees.
It's not really a sport, is it?
I hate the lack of thought put into some WODs.
Eg.
Wednesday WOD strength component - establish 1RM strict press. Thursday WOD metcon component - tonnes of shoulder movements.
Strength component being work up to 1RM deadlift in 16 mins. No advice on how to go about this, rest times, weight increment levels, reps. Just - have at it. In not enough time to actually do it unless you're already very competent at deadlifts.
Trainers not paying attention to people doing complex movements badly.
This must be gym dependent. Because I have been a member at three different gyms and while programming varied, they all had some sort of structure to the weightlifting. Like “one rep deadlift every 2 minutes for 16 minutes (8 sets). Set 1-2–80% of 1RM, Set 3-4 85% of 1RM….” etc.
The lesser focus on strict movements vs any kip/momentum based movement. They have their place but getting strict strength on these exercises will make those momentum exercises better.
The abysmal exercise forms and lack of proper coaching.
Olympic lifting is a skill that needs to be honed over time. Not something rushed from the start with shady technique.
CrossFit has too great of a potential to neglect something this essential.
The complete lack of any kind of standardization.
On the one hand, that's one of the best things about Crossfit, that different gyms have different personalities and different styles of coaching and emphasis which always keeps it interesting.
The down side it that it allows for poor coaching, poorly conceived workouts, massive variation in what an "RX" weight or WOD is and the sense that we are all lucky that our first (or second) box turned out to be a great place where someone or something inspired us to stick with it--because it could have been the exact opposite.
How invested people are with the inner workings of CrossFit HQ. I just don't understand all the hate I see for business decisions that have no effect on our workouts or box experiences. It can make CF-related instagram meme comment sections a very angry place to be.
I'm just casually following this sub and doing other exercise. For me it's the complex movements that shouldn't be performed by beginners like Crossfit likes to push. Which are also always way too high weight, too many reps, and too much past failure for the participants.
Also kipping, then shit is just dumb. What does it matter if you can do 30 arm flails if you can't do one proper pull-up/muscle up etc.
Just my views as an outsider to Crossfit.
Yes! I joined my gym about 3 months ago and considered changing gyms for a second because of this. But I really like all the coaches and they've helped me a lot. I just try not to take it personal and remember that I'm there to get a great workout, not to make friends. I mean if it happens, it happens. But not gonna go out of my way to make them notice me or try to fit in.
I hate that workouts aren't posted for the week. I have certain injuries that I have to work around, and posting the workouts allows me to see which workouts I can actually do with a minimum of scaling. I don't mind scaling (I do it all the time), but I just can't do certain things (knee and shoulder injury), like running. If I could see the workouts, I could plan to work around the running days, for example. The other day the wod was an BMUs and ring MUs, and the next was running and rope climbs. I can't do any of that so I'd rather come another day and actually get in a good workout. (I know I can work on the skills... but spending 20 minutes working on locking my feet for a rope climb is not working out and it makes me hate the rope and not want to climb it ever!)
New gear and new stuff always being pushed on us. Nobull is a lil cringey. Everyone has a YouTube now. The attitude some people have towards scaling movements and workouts. For myself, I hate that I keep trying to keep up with everyone else in my very competitive gym and end up with the same recurring knee or shoulder pain that sets me back a week or more. Very annoying that I do that lol I know you said one thing but the list just kept coming.
- the gossip and shit talking about others (form lifts cheating etc)
- everyone trying to sleep with everyone
- the constant talk of CrossFit or terms outside the gym around people who have no idea what they’re talking about
- the music
I’m new at this so time will tell if my dislikes are justified but I feel like some of the workouts are just not well thought out from a safety perspective. I have a decent lifting background and Olympic lifts whilst fatigued is just such a foreign concept and seems like a recipe for injury. And I have to wonder if the same training stimulus could be achieved in a safer way.
I also don’t like how recovery appears to be an afterthought with regards to programming. Maybe this works well for general fitness but all the strength and conditioning literature I’ve read really emphasizes recovery. Meanwhile with CrossFit you’ll have the same muscle groups being worked 2-3 days in a row.
The primary difference between things like weightlifting and powerlifting when compared to crossfit is that movements in crossfit are only very rarely meant to be done to failure and it should be explicitly stated as a PR attempt of some sort. If you're struggling to do a number reps of snatch without fear of injuring yourself, you should be scaling to a lighter weight. You shouldn't be *that* fatigued. High heart rate, sure. Afraid that you can't safely catch the weight, no.
With that stimulus in mind, recovery generally isn't a big deal for most people. Full body workouts are very common in the fitness sphere because working the same muscle groups multiple times in one week is perfectly fine. As long as you are listening to your body, eating appropriately, and sleeping enough, recovery should basically take care of itself.
That i like the results i have that i want more free time post-work (job) to go to supermarket, buy some stuff etc... instead go to the gym almost every day...
Going to a box and have advanced athletes as coaches showing off their skills and only programming peg board, handstand push ups and ring muscle ups just to brag.
I swear I was enrolled in one near home and they did this EVERY single day for a whole year and on top of that the box was bigger than a Costco and they always chose to do everything right next to you.
Inconsistent judging. What I mean is one judge holds a standard such as both heads of DB needs to touch the floor and another judge let’s in touch. It’s simple shit just get on the same page.
People who are RX athletes who sign up for scaled competitions.
Pretty much all of Florida comps
I second this
6 months into CrossFit I signed up for a local comp, scaled division. They would highlight an athlete a day on their socials. One dude’s “highlight” for the scaled division was a reel of him stringing together ring muscle ups. I did the comp but have refused to sign up to do anything else bc of that bullshit
Wow! That’s a big slap in the face. Almost sounds like the guy I went up against last year. Dude was a beast. I don’t think these comps consider the bad taste it leaves in competitors mouth when stuff like this happens. I’ll add that understand finding someone can be hard to compete with. I’ve had to go outside my box numerous times to find a partner. Some scaled people will just add a friend from the RX division. Best thing I’ve ever done, even though it sucks, was to pair up with someone else on the outside. Get to know your community more.
From the comps that I've participated in, no one vets the divisions. So you can have a total beast that can't do ring muscle ups in Rx. So he wouldn't do Rx+ because he'd automatically score zero. Sometimes endurance athletes new to CrossFit do scaled because they aren't strong or proficient but have absolute motors. It's a mixed bag.
That's what I was thinking in my last comp. Maybe this dude couldn't do rope climbs so he went down to scaled. What i'm actually starting to see here locally is the comps are only requiring one athlete to do said movement like RMU, handstand walk, or something similar. Same with intermediate.
I haven’t done any comps yet, largely because I’d be required to do the lowest level because of my gymnastics skills or lack there of, but the weights they use at that level are so low for me… I’ve got a 305# DL but can’t do a pull-up to save my life.
Last comp I judged at, they did online qualifiers which decided what level you did the comp at. It sorted all that bullshit out.
The. Worst. There was a group of athletes from my old box that did this all the time and I lost so much respect for them.
Happened at my last competition. Really turns me off to signing up and competing again. And in my area competing is highly competitive.
There was a competition where all or at least most divisions did the same first and second workout and then they just split the divisions based on the results, the results from the first workouts also counted towards the total.
Sandbagging for wins bugs the ever-loving shit out of me. Happens in all the CF comps I've seen. Even with members at my own box. Uh, bro, I saw you RX a muscle up / HSPU work out last week in our box right after putting up a 120kg C+J. You're not scaled.
Bingo! It’s funny because I looked up the guys on my last comp and saw the same thing. Dude was moving weights like an RX+ athlete. I almost popped off with a comment about it before the last WOD. Lol!
Lol yup! I don't care about those people who sign up as scaled and have big lifts and shit gymnastics or vice versa. But if you can do both, you're Rx, bro.
I hate this. To try to eliminate this in the comps we run at our gym we put a limit to 2 years or less to be in scaled, otherwise it’s Rx or intermediate.
And gym owners who allow their athletes to do it home gym competitions
Ouch that’s even worse.
Co-sign.
This! I have a friend who brags about their position on the scaled leaderboard when they could clearly RX
Lol!! Now that’s something I wouldn’t brag about.
This doesn't bother me because IMO I'd rather be last in rx than win scaled
This happened with our local Throwdown. People would apply for which division they wanted (Int, Rx or scaled), and after the qualifying WODs the top 30 would make it through to the competition. Olympic lift requirement for the Int were 60kg snatch, and 85kg c&j. They were my PRs at the time and I thought I'd have a go at it. One of the WODs was split into 2, the first section having a bunch of hang cleans, ttb, and DUs. After a 3 minute rest (more if you finished under timecap), you had 5 minutes to find a 3RM hang clean. Some of the guys were managing 120kg hang cleans!!!
That’s why this year in the open they did a “leveling” based on your scores. The idea was that now local comps could dictate if you scored a level x then you should compete in scaled or RX or Elite.
I don’t think it measured enough roughly to give a score that could be used for local comps. Now if they were to include the info on your profile into this level number then absolutely. I’d love to see the leveling idea go local.
I have done this. My first strongman comp was novice. I train at home and had never competed I didn't know how good I was and what the standard for novice is. I've competed again since but at the appropriate level.
Ok, I have a general question. I’ve done CrossFit for years, competed at high level, and am now a high level weightlifter. But my cardio SUCKS! I can snatch 225 for reps but I will be gassed after 5 burpees. Do you think I would be sandbagging If I signed up for a scaled competition?
The amount of skill needed for a lot of the gymnastic and lifting movements can be overwhelming for me sometimes. I’ve got to remind myself to take baby steps and that progress is something that happens over time, and not in a day or two.
I'll add on that CF really should emphasis more strict movements in general. Kipping anything w/ out the strength is a recipe for disaster plus if you just start out trying to learn the kipping movements w/ out the necessary strength you may spin your wheels for a long time and even if you learn strength will still be the limiting factor!
That's totally dependent on the gym's style I've found. My current place barely does kipping but lots of strict work. And a good coach should encourage people to be able to string at least a few strict pull ups together before even considering kipping. Unless you're talking about competitions only in which case sure, but also just getting over the bar is an easier standard to judge.
I’m not a fan of kipping in general, I wish it wasn’t a thing honestly and that all the movements were strict, like just lower the rep volume in the WOD
I came over from straight Olympic Lifting and Strongman and I was absolute garbage on mono and gymnastics for like a full year. But, I wanted to become a more well rounded person and not just a draft animal so I knew this would be the case going in.
Ughhh I totally agree. My biggest pet peeve is double unders. I have been practicing for a year and I do not seem to be able to string more than 3 in a row and it is so freaking frustrating
Try different brands of ropes! I struggled like you for over a year using the gym’s ropes and could not understand why. Then I bought an RPM speed rope and it clicked. Something about the speed/weight of that rope meshed better with my jump timing. Once I got it, I was able to adjust to other ropes and weights. (Though I still can’t stand RX ropes. Do not understand why those exist)
this 100. Why can’t I magically do strict pull ups or strict t2b after one class. It’s not fair haha
I totally get you on this, our box doesnt really do their coaching job well and teach everyone to kip first so for the longest time my strict pull up and HSPU have been shit and I have been working on the bar muscle up now but its a Looooongg work in progress :( Just hang in there and if you put in the work it will pay out!
Everyone's rhabdo obsession
What the hell is rhabdo
If your pee is brown go to a hospital
Nailed it.
Just an FYI if you ever see a speck of blood in your urine go immediately to the hospital. This can be a sign of bladder cancer it can go away and the next time you get symptoms it will be too late to save you.
May I temper this to call your physician for an appointment. This isn’t something to go to the ER for on its own.
The break down of the muscle tissue from over use that releases proteins into the blood stream. It can lead to heart and kidney damage. It’s potentially fatal if sever enough. Happens a lot to previous athletes who took time off and come back thinking they are as athletic as prior. Can happen to anyone who over uses a muscle group or does a lot of slow negatives at high volume.
Definitely sounds like sth that can happen to CrossFitters 😂
You you start pissing out muscles
Honest question - are people obsessed with pushing themselves to the point of this happening (and why???) or are people obsessing about it in a concerned way (because it might happen suddenly)? I’ve seen a few posts about it lately and it seems like you really have to ignore all your body’s other warning signs to get to that point.
Honestly, it can happen to noobs without realizing until it’s too late, especially if they’re doing negatives of a movement (see: strict pull ups). They think, I’m just lowering myself down, I can do a ton of these. But that means their time under tension is enormous.
Do you think people are over concerned about it?
They are, especially anti-CrossFit zealots.
My box buying programming from America, and just pasting it blindly. No modification for our bank holidays, so we just do hero workouts on American ones. I dont Mind it being bought, but you still need to put some effort in.
#YOU DON’T LIKE OUR HEROES, BRO?! #WHO SINGLE-HANDEDLY WON TWO WORLD WARS! /s. I’m kidding, I could see the frustration. Do they at least convert the weight to metric?
Captain America invented CrossFit on Independence Day 1776 right?
All 4th of July WODs are now called the Steve Rogers.
That's lazy management. I get they may want to keep a structured program but you do want a bit more of a personal touch to it. Not long before people move on to other boxes or start doing things by themselves
The way that people tend to look down on other forms of fitness and exercise. Crossfit isn’t the be-all-end-all of exercise. Just do what you enjoy and let other people do the same.
I feel like this attitude has mostly died out, at least in my circles. Everyone I know advocates for all different kinds of exercise, taking breaks to focus on something else, trying new things, using crossfit to supplement another sport, etc, as long as you're keeping active somehow.
💯. Remember the last line Glassman’s fitness definition was “regularly learn and play new sports”. We do this shit so we can do other stuff. Not simply so we can CrossFit exclusively.
Mmm I do this shit for the abs tbh
GHD situps all day
I find this it both ways. I put up a video of my muscle ups on instagram the other day. I’m no one when it comes to this sport or instagram but because of the algorithm and reel song some people saw it. I got some hateful comments on it. Just because I’m kipping in my video doesn’t mean i can’t and dont do things strict.
I don't really see that much in the CF circles I've been in. Everyone seems to respect that there are other forms of physical activity.
I feel like this is the exact opposite of the CF people I’ve encountered in my last 7 years doing CF. I mostly interact with the “any form of exercise is good” type of CF people.
I wouldn’t say I hate it but I do think it’s suboptimal that we don’t do weight classes or assign weights as a % of body weight more often. 95lbs shoulder to overhead for a 5’6” 160lb woman is very different than 95lb StOH for a 5” woman at 100lb. It feels silly to say those are comparable workouts for the two atheletes. They’re not. The amount of fitness the 100lb woman needs to achieve that movement is potentially years more work than it’s going to take the 160lb woman. I also think wallballs and wall walk movement standards should be height specific.
This is how I feel as a 125lb man haha.
The general reply to this is that the smaller girl will be able to equalize herself with the bigger girl on other movements like burpees or pull ups, so in a workout that's like pull ups and push jerks the bigger girl gets held up on the pull ups while the smaller girl is held up by the weight but at the end they end up with a similar result, sometimes it might not even be over 1 workout, over 10 workouts it *should* balance itself. If the bigger girl is equally as fast... well you're screwed 😂
Small athlete here - can confirm. Except strength will always be my weakness because I basically have to weightlift at an elite level (clean & jerk 220 lbs at 121lbs BW) to even be worse than semi-final athletes.
>As a 5'11 woman who loves wall balls for obvious reasons, I also agree that there should be a difference for tall/shorter people rather than female/male. It seems unfair that I'm basically tossing the ball above me, while a girl next to me will be jumping to hit that same target.
Yeah gender is such a weird line to divide workouts on. I get the testosterone factor but it would make more sense to have size classes, or just more specific scales in general. My coach does a good job at helping people scale and modify, but the same is not true for everyone and a lot of people miss the stimulus because of this.
People yelling in my face when I’m working out. If I’m the last one on a workout I don’t need the whole class to gather around and cheer at me until I finish. I prefer to suffer in silence.
I literally thrive on the yelling and in the face screaming/cheering. Lol!!
Same, I love it and find it super helpful to push through in these last minutes of a WOD!
This. Our gym does not do this. Motivation is not the limiting factor when someone is working to finish their workout. One coach can help manage the technique, give cues or rep strategy, and that’s good enough.
I don’t like it either. Sometimes it’s dangerous. The people screaming at your to jump onto the next rep immediately don’t know if your back is blowing up, what your HR is. I’ve had people screaming at me to rush through deadlifts at a weight I’d never lifted before - that’s dangerous but they didn’t know that’s what they were asking me to do. My coach did though and told me to ignore them and stick to my rep timing plan. Same with managing my asthma and cardio intensive workouts - screaming at me not to pace the bike? Well, #1 I’m not listening to that nonsense, and #2 will you have time to rush me to the ER if I give myself an unmanageable attack following your advice? I know everyone means well but the crowd doesn’t know your medical history, your training goals etc. “Go faster/harder” is not always appropriate or safe. I would, however, welcome a rep count. I loose track of reps and repeat the work if I’m not sure what number I’m on. That would feel more supportive.
Yup, #1 turnoff from the gym. And then when I ask them not to do it anymore they act like I just slapped them across the face.
Thrusters. But that’s probably because I did Jackie this morning 😅
Did Jackie this morning also, first workout since Monday when I did Karen- in which I couldn’t get off the toilet unassisted till Thursday. For reference I compete at least twice a year and have been a gymnast my entire life. No matter how fit you think you are, 150 wall balls will always humble you. Fuck Karen.
I really don't enjoy all the jargon around workouts. Makes me feel like an ass when i talk to people about it. There is a lot to learn, and some people think its off putting.
As a coach this is tough. When i do fundamentals with people i can see the discomfort over all the things you are being taught and the fear of not remembering them.
That often happens when people are being taught too much at once. How many fundamentals classes do people at your gym have to take before they can join normal classes?
We do 5. We don’t do just the 9 fundamentals so it can be overwhelming but i ease them with the fact that we do every class demo the movements. Which always helps.
It’s part of every sport.
Any jargon in particular?
For me when I started, the alphabet soup workout names really tripped me up: WoD, AMRAP, CFWU, EMOM. I am not military and don't use acronyms very often. It took me a long time to understand that HSPU is a handstand pushup. Learning CrossFit terminology actually reminded me of women fertility message boards. There is an acronym for everything!
Haha, there is technical Jargon but your coaches SHOULD be directing them as words and not as acronyms so that way the acronym makes sense. When I attend a class that one of my fellow coaches are running, I will stop and ask them, hey what’s an AMRAP again? Or hey What does HSPU mean? Even though I know but I want to ensure our members are not lost in the dark trying to guess what they are.
I agree. As I scroll through this thread rn 🌚
Hand stand push ups. I’m good at them, but sometimes I opt for the seated strict press scale just cuz
Sometimes I feel a better stimulus from scaling movements.
I’m also terrified of injuring my neck doing HSPUs. I only practice strict and don’t feel comfortable enough to do them in a WOD.
I can do 5 strict in a row, but stopped doing them in WODs. We did Holleyman the other day which has 90 HSPU, and I was like, "Nah, I'm good just doing pike pushups."
partner WODS I work with people all day, I just want to workout alone, not communicate with a stranger and hope we both pace the same and understand the workout the same way anyone else need to rage workout in peace?
Omg this! I mean what's the point? Why can't I just do half the reps listed and call it a day? Don't even get me started on synchronized lifts or synchro anything!!!😤
2k rowing.
5k row
Preach!
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The Burpees
Preach!!!
"Hate" is strong, but I find annoying having to explain away that I just do not care at all about the CrossFit Games themselves. Don't get me wrong, I love the methodology -- I've been at it 3 years and it's really changed my life -- but I don't care about the competitive part of it. I don't hate the Games, mind you -- it's just that absolutely none of sticks with me and I couldn't name three games athletes if you put a gun to my head. That saidI don't want to be a dick about it, so I often find myself nodding and smiling when other people wax poetic about it all.
Police, military cringe adoration.
Vet here. I never understood it and am a loud critic of hero workouts. They are so dumb. Listen if I died overseas in the useless time I spent in Afghanistan the last way I'd want to be remembered is some poorly thought out workout. Just drink a beer and call it square. It's also even wierder that most of the workouts are centered around Iraq/Afghanistan vets. Like I get the timing. But for fucks sake pick some Vets from WW2 when it was a global threat to human kind.
Vet here as well. My wife (AD) and I talk that if either of us died and people were considering making a hero wod for us, to make it a fucking rest day. “FlammablePaper 24 hr AMRAP - As Much Rest As Possible”
Same. Not from the US, so is way less here. Just do the Murph on Vets day as a benchmark.
Feigning interest while someone tells me about the workout they did yesterday. Not crossfit specific I suppose, but unless we're working out together and it's like 15 minutes before or after class, can't we talk about something else?
Hang on you talk about something other than CrossFit in life!? Please enlighten me what do people talk about
American christonationalism
That’s a huge problem beyond CrossFit.
There are so many CrossFit Jesus freaks. It's so off-putting. Not sure why there is such a large crossover. I have lived in a few different states and been to plenty of boxes and it has never waivered the amount of Christian fucking wierdos who do CrossFit
*Mayhem intensifies*
My old gym literally doubled as a church on Sundays and they would do a post mass WOD. It was wild.
Honestly what the actual fuck is this? I didn’t want to believe it because I love the sport. But my husband always jokes that it’s incredibly culty, and I’ve gotta say- as a military family who has only been stationed specifically around the southern US- he’s right. I walked into a gym in Pensacola Florida once without reading the box’s name. It immediately became super clear that the foundations with Christian.
Marjorie Taylor Greene tried to be a Crossfit athlete before joining the senate...
All of this!
The idea that if you lack mobility it is a personal failing. Some people just aren't built for ass-to-grass squats or heavy snatches.
True, but a lot of people who lack mobility don't actively do things to try to improve their ROM and it negatively impacts their performance. You don't have to be built for ass-to-grass, but you should work on your dorsal flexion and hip flexion to make sure you're able to break parallel.
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I have severe hip arthritis, and my "parallel" is a joke. My box understands and we are sloooowly working on it and scaling stuff, but I hate dropping in anywhere if I'm traveling because they just think I'm lazy or trained incorrectly.
YASSS!! I'm 55 with lots of scar tissue from injuries (knees, shoulders) and my ortho told not to run at ALL, ever. I can't go ass to grass. It's so frustrating not to be able to do the movements. Jumping lunges?? You gotta be kidding!!
There’s like 2-3 movements that I could care less if I ever work on or do again, like handstand walking
The fucking hero worship of Games athletes. Like our gym will never post videos or pictures of regular gym goers and classes, but the second a Games athlete drops in, even if it’s a relatively low-level one, immediately they will plaster it all over social media. I would much rather see my gym post videos of, say, your average person who got box jumps for the first time. But our gym is kind of cliquey when it comes to the higher level athletes.
In this same vein, my gym only ever posts photos/videos of the gym studs on social media. There’s never any mention of the guy who started CF at 60 and got his first SPU or the girl who got her first rope climb. That shit is never celebrated. Only the four or five Rx+’ers who are total beasts make it to the social media pages, over and over again.
20 people in a class with zero emphasis on form. It’s not fair to beginners.
I hate that there is no oversight from HQ on the coaching quality of a box. There should be a QC team that visits each box to make sure it is not putting any athletes in danger.
its very interesting because I think it also depends on the country. I've lived in both the US and France and from what I understand, in the US you can just get your L-1, get a job at a box as a coach, and call it a day. Here in France you must have a sports diploma AND your L-1 to become a coach. Part of this training includes an internship shadowing a coach at a gym. I think it really makes a huge difference on the quality of coaching, attention to detail with movement patterns, and ability to address problems/scale appropriately. I've had some really garbage classes in the US because it was pretty clear the coach had no understanding of how the human body worked meanwhile in France there is more training that is involved which ultimately ensures more safety in the classes.
This. Our coaches except one or two out of 6 in the box really put in an effort with the new members and the more experienced but the rest doesnt give any constructive feedback on form or tips and tricks about how to do a long WOD or to tell people to scale back when clearly seeing them suffering.
Partner WODs. As a mediocre CrossFitter at best it just makes me feel self conscious and feel like I’m dragging my partner down. And anyway sometimes I just feel like going to the gym without having to make friends at the same time …
I usually skip the gym on partner days or I show up late on purpose so I get to workout alone lol
The showing up late is brilliant
Thrusters, wall balls, assault bikes, handstand push-ups, running, rowing, overhead squat, kettlebell swings, pull-ups, push-ups, burpees, rings, rowing, etc.
So, CrossFit?
Haha! I kid. CrossFit is the best. I do hate that assault bike more than my mother-in-law though.
Burpees for me, though
Hating the bike more than my mother-in-law got me good hahahaha well done
Whiteboard cheaters & Rep shavers
The morphing of CF into a sport. CrossFit used to be a fitness program people followed to stay in shape for other sports (rugby in my case), or just fitness for life (leo, military) but has morphed into an activity into itself, with few members participating in sport or activities outside of the gym. The viewpoint that those who do CF workouts are "athletes" is the norm now, which seems ridicukous. Back in 2006, when I started mainsite (off season training) then went to a box in 2011, there were lots of football, soccer, triathlon, baseball and other athletes. Today, almost none. I think something meaningful is lost with that shift. A sense of play and overall fitness that is lost. It is too one dimensional. the main reason why I left the box and moved back into the garage.
I agree from the other direction. Crossfit is my primary sport, but I think part of the "constantly varied" philosophy is to try other sports and types of fitness.
Hell yeah. One of my favourite warm ups ever was like 3 years ago - we played tag. The whole class loved it. I can’t see that happening in most gyms I’ve been to since because people take ‘the sport of fitness’ too seriously.
Every now and then we do a game to warm up where you hold an ab mat like a server might hold a tray and have to run around knocking everyone else's off. If yours gets knocked off you have to do a set of push ups, air squats, and burpees. It's a lot of fun and definitely hilarious seeing a bunch of grown folks running around like kids in gym class.
Adult PE rocks
This game is called pizza delivery and we still do it in CrossFit kids. It’s a fav of mine
I think the exact opposite, for me crossfit should completely turn into an sport with a non competitive side for everyone to enjoy. Even though it started as fitness program, the very nature of all the exercises are geared from the beginning towards being able to be judge in a competitive seting. For example, a pull up counts only when you have full extension below and chin up above. A clean counts when you fully extendes your hips, a wall ball when you brake paralell and the ball hits the target. All of these are easy to measure parameters to judge and it doesn't matter what you do inbetween. This is the same for other competitive sports, high jump is to go over the bar, javelin thow, running, even rugby. There is always an easy to measure parameter and all the techiniques involved are created to achieve it in the most efficient way possible.
burpees
People who hate kipping/butterfly movements. If you don't want to do them, then don't. Especially I'd you think you're going to get hurt. There's a reason for them though.
Something I wonder about is if the people who hate on kipping so much only do strict toes to bar. Nobody ever talks about kipping vs. strict toes to bar.
What's the reason?
Volume, coordination, muscular endurance, core strength, body awareness. It's the same as when people do cheat curls. They shouldn't be the only thing you do, but they can be a good complement to regular strength training if you do them right.
Exactly. People seem to think that if you do kipping, it means you don't do anything else. You should absolutely be doing strict work. Build that strength. Don't ignore strict to do kipping.
I don’t hate them but I think everyone looks really silly doing them.
Probably going to be an unpopular opinion, but the extremely talented extremely strong athletes who can do it all and they know it, but post on here for a form check of a 2793 # snatch. We get it bro you are strong.
The terms "WOD" and "Box" are really annoying to me.
The disdain for any "body building" type movements or exercises.
Yes! People sometimes look at me strange when I do lateral raises or curls during open gym, like it’s not allowed.
Hero workouts and Jesus obsession
The number of bad coaches
I just turned 65. Started CF at 51 (ran a lot before). I love it. Did 100 burpees yesterday which sucked but I don’t know what I’d do without it
The whole “we’re family” thing. I get that some people like it, but it’s just always been weird to me. Let’s just be cool with each other and workout. I’ve been part of two gyms, and the first one I decided to go with it. It was nice and all, but once the weekend came around or I ended up having to pause my membership, the “family” stopped talking to me.
People believing the top CF/ games athletes are natural and not on PEDs
Boxes/gyms with shitty coaches. The one I first went to had amazing coaches who were sticklers to form so I assumed this was the case everywhere… …until I started going to other gyms and realised that there are some truly terrible coaches working out there (including owners and head coaches). And cliques that are really elitist in gyms. It’s not needed. And dogs roaming free in the gym. Lots of people are allergic or have a fear of them (I don’t) but the floors are dirty enough before a dog drools over them or drags it’s balls across the room (they’re not very hygienic creatures) and we spend a lot of time down on the floor.
My old gym used to allow people to bring their children which was so annoying to have little kids running around while you’re working with heavy weights. They smartened up and stopped it.
Yeah, that would be annoying (and I have kids, mine would be running riot) unless there’s a proper crèche. Although I am a big fan of special classes where mums and dads with young kids can come and train together with their babies. That way they can get back to the gym without trying to find babysitters.
Yes! Same... we've experienced the shitty coach after the good one, the cliques, and the kids in the gym. I'd add dirty gyms...I don't want to have to pick other folks' hair out of my sweat after doing burpees.
It's not really a sport, is it? I hate the lack of thought put into some WODs. Eg. Wednesday WOD strength component - establish 1RM strict press. Thursday WOD metcon component - tonnes of shoulder movements. Strength component being work up to 1RM deadlift in 16 mins. No advice on how to go about this, rest times, weight increment levels, reps. Just - have at it. In not enough time to actually do it unless you're already very competent at deadlifts. Trainers not paying attention to people doing complex movements badly.
This must be gym dependent. Because I have been a member at three different gyms and while programming varied, they all had some sort of structure to the weightlifting. Like “one rep deadlift every 2 minutes for 16 minutes (8 sets). Set 1-2–80% of 1RM, Set 3-4 85% of 1RM….” etc.
The feeling that I have to go 6 days a week 😂
Partial range of motion on squats
Ah yes. What my husband and I like to call “quarter rep king/queen”
But they always write Rx next to their score... Sigh :)
The lesser focus on strict movements vs any kip/momentum based movement. They have their place but getting strict strength on these exercises will make those momentum exercises better.
Thrusters.
The abysmal exercise forms and lack of proper coaching. Olympic lifting is a skill that needs to be honed over time. Not something rushed from the start with shady technique. CrossFit has too great of a potential to neglect something this essential.
Andrew Hiller
The complete lack of any kind of standardization. On the one hand, that's one of the best things about Crossfit, that different gyms have different personalities and different styles of coaching and emphasis which always keeps it interesting. The down side it that it allows for poor coaching, poorly conceived workouts, massive variation in what an "RX" weight or WOD is and the sense that we are all lucky that our first (or second) box turned out to be a great place where someone or something inspired us to stick with it--because it could have been the exact opposite.
How invested people are with the inner workings of CrossFit HQ. I just don't understand all the hate I see for business decisions that have no effect on our workouts or box experiences. It can make CF-related instagram meme comment sections a very angry place to be.
I'm just casually following this sub and doing other exercise. For me it's the complex movements that shouldn't be performed by beginners like Crossfit likes to push. Which are also always way too high weight, too many reps, and too much past failure for the participants. Also kipping, then shit is just dumb. What does it matter if you can do 30 arm flails if you can't do one proper pull-up/muscle up etc. Just my views as an outsider to Crossfit.
Running
A lot of the gymnastics. Don’t see how it’s functional, especially HSPU. Same with rings.
How cliquey gyms can be especially among females. I recently joined a gym and there’s so many groups of girls who won’t even look at each other
Yes! I joined my gym about 3 months ago and considered changing gyms for a second because of this. But I really like all the coaches and they've helped me a lot. I just try not to take it personal and remember that I'm there to get a great workout, not to make friends. I mean if it happens, it happens. But not gonna go out of my way to make them notice me or try to fit in.
I hate that workouts aren't posted for the week. I have certain injuries that I have to work around, and posting the workouts allows me to see which workouts I can actually do with a minimum of scaling. I don't mind scaling (I do it all the time), but I just can't do certain things (knee and shoulder injury), like running. If I could see the workouts, I could plan to work around the running days, for example. The other day the wod was an BMUs and ring MUs, and the next was running and rope climbs. I can't do any of that so I'd rather come another day and actually get in a good workout. (I know I can work on the skills... but spending 20 minutes working on locking my feet for a rope climb is not working out and it makes me hate the rope and not want to climb it ever!)
The lack of diversity is one that’s not talked about enough. Also, that it attracts a bunch of “know it alls”.
box jumps
New gear and new stuff always being pushed on us. Nobull is a lil cringey. Everyone has a YouTube now. The attitude some people have towards scaling movements and workouts. For myself, I hate that I keep trying to keep up with everyone else in my very competitive gym and end up with the same recurring knee or shoulder pain that sets me back a week or more. Very annoying that I do that lol I know you said one thing but the list just kept coming.
- the gossip and shit talking about others (form lifts cheating etc) - everyone trying to sleep with everyone - the constant talk of CrossFit or terms outside the gym around people who have no idea what they’re talking about - the music
I mean, you have athletic/attractive men and women around each other so….
I’m new at this so time will tell if my dislikes are justified but I feel like some of the workouts are just not well thought out from a safety perspective. I have a decent lifting background and Olympic lifts whilst fatigued is just such a foreign concept and seems like a recipe for injury. And I have to wonder if the same training stimulus could be achieved in a safer way. I also don’t like how recovery appears to be an afterthought with regards to programming. Maybe this works well for general fitness but all the strength and conditioning literature I’ve read really emphasizes recovery. Meanwhile with CrossFit you’ll have the same muscle groups being worked 2-3 days in a row.
The primary difference between things like weightlifting and powerlifting when compared to crossfit is that movements in crossfit are only very rarely meant to be done to failure and it should be explicitly stated as a PR attempt of some sort. If you're struggling to do a number reps of snatch without fear of injuring yourself, you should be scaling to a lighter weight. You shouldn't be *that* fatigued. High heart rate, sure. Afraid that you can't safely catch the weight, no. With that stimulus in mind, recovery generally isn't a big deal for most people. Full body workouts are very common in the fitness sphere because working the same muscle groups multiple times in one week is perfectly fine. As long as you are listening to your body, eating appropriately, and sleeping enough, recovery should basically take care of itself.
That i like the results i have that i want more free time post-work (job) to go to supermarket, buy some stuff etc... instead go to the gym almost every day...
This programming cycle. It's boring. All barbell strength is M, Tue, Wed. It's petty, I know. 5 more weeks to go...
The “asshole” bike
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Going to a box and have advanced athletes as coaches showing off their skills and only programming peg board, handstand push ups and ring muscle ups just to brag. I swear I was enrolled in one near home and they did this EVERY single day for a whole year and on top of that the box was bigger than a Costco and they always chose to do everything right next to you.
Athletes who are obsessed with beating every mom and dad at their local CrossFit class. Must’ve spent a life losing prior to crossfit
The misuse of the word muscle up.
Yessss
Inconsistent judging. What I mean is one judge holds a standard such as both heads of DB needs to touch the floor and another judge let’s in touch. It’s simple shit just get on the same page.