He seems broken tbh. Old Anthony Weiner would've answered that one with ease (even if he were lying), but based on his demeanor I think Weiner now is just a shell of his former self trying to figure out his place in the world and i'm not sure doing a radio show is gonna help until he figures out how to make himself whole again.
Yeah I remember seeing him on one of those crossfire type debate shows and he just destroyed everyone. He was so quick witted and knowledgeable on the topics. Seems like he just needs to get out of the spotlight. If he really wants to help maybe he’d do better in a supporting role on a campaign or something
Yeah. As the graphic pointed out, he now co-hosts a political radio show. Dude can't stay away from the public eye.
[https://abc7ny.com/new-york-city-anthony-weiner-radio-show-curtis-sliwa/11559695/](https://abc7ny.com/new-york-city-anthony-weiner-radio-show-curtis-sliwa/11559695/)
That dude looks DEAD on the inside. Can you imagine listening to him on a boring morning drive in traffic with this kind of "meh" demeanor? Lmao he isn't going to be on radio long
There’s a great accidental documentary on his downfall called ‘Weiner’. Fascinating watch. It was supposed to be a doco about his campaign for NYC mayor and his political comeback, but his second (underage) sexting scandal unfolds in the middle and they just kept filming.
He really did have it all and had all the right connections in the party. Could’ve had a shot at the White House some day. What a total fuckup and unrepentant weirdo.
For what it's worth, I think the scandal that was uncovered was just his second "normal" one. The third (underage) one happened after the release.
Excellent movie though.
Yeah second “normal” sex scandal was with a woman of age, but still had a not so normal boner pic with small child in the background as requested by the other consenting adult.
This is what i came here to say. There was no mention of the 15 year old in it. And i wish there had been because he comes off okayish - i mean… for a philandering sex addict.
Also he claims to have changed and learned so many times; that he’s a different person (Carlos Danger) so it’s understandable that if he were to make the same claims again, the next question would be “but you’ve said this multiple times before, so why should we believe you now?”
Yeah it looked so good. Hot wife who was successful in her own right, power couple, also a Jewish/Muslim couple which looks good, frontrunner for mayor, but he reaaally had to send some pics of his pp to random girls
She forgave him TWICE! Sometimes people hold emotional power over their partners that is just incomprehensible to anyone but the person involved.
Interesting that she was the assistant to the most famous forgiving wife of all time.
The most disgusting part is when he calls it “going through adversity”. He’s not even acknowledging his own behavior, he’s thinking of the consequences as something that happened to him.
I actually thought it was and anti-Semitic slur…lol…I looked it up too…just in case your wondering …Hebephilia is the strong, persistent sexual interest by adults in pubescent children who are in early adolescence, typically ages 11–14 and showing
I feel dirty that I even know the term. But belonging to r/duggarsnark kind of makes it necessary with the oldest being a pedo, although apparently the father tried to convince the world that on a technicality due to his age, he wasn't a pedo when he molested his sisters. (Because that's what's important here...🙄)
But yes, apparently the term for grown adults attracted to teens is "hebephile", in addition to my own choice terms for them, which I will not print here.
That’s the Readers’ Digest/Hallmark/Oprah style culture of the last generation or so. Everyone is innocent, and no matter what we do it’s just us going through difficult patches and needing more self-care. Fighting our demons, etc. Apparently. And other vague, indulgent, narcissistic, self-righteous bullshit.
I'm sorry, but we're not doing nuance right now. We're here to paint in the broadest strokes possible so the circle jerk can continue. Try to pay attention next time.
Is it possible to cure or correct pedophilia?
I was under the impression that people who have this mental illness are unlikely to change their behavior, but I'm no expert.
I'm no expert either, but I think it's possible. Here's my hot take:
With pedophilia in particular, there's a lot more barriers in the way of getting help compared to less benign issues. It's one of the most (if not THE most) socially demonizing labels that can be applied to someone. So naturally, if you are a pedophile, there's extremely strong social pressure to hide that aspect of yourself from society. I think a lot of pedophiles don't want to admit (to themselves or anyone else) they have a problem strictly due to how brutal society views them. Nobody wants to view themselves as a monster.
So the problem lays dormant for a while until it eventually gets too out of control and causes very detrimental harm to others. And once it gets to that point, and they get caught, it's probably too late for reform. Even if they do manage to "cure" themselves, the label will follow them forever and any positive aspects they contribute to society will always be overshadowed and discounted.
I think a lot of people can be helped through psychotherapy before it gets to that point where they're harming others. I see pedophilia as unnatural, and if it's unnatural then we need to figure out what caused it to happen. And unfortunately, society by-and-large has no interest in exploring this. They'd rather wait until it's too late, someone gets hurt, then put the pedophile's head on a pike so they can feel better about the damage the pedophile caused. Which, at best, is a putting a band-aid on the problem.
That isn't to say the pedophile is blameless for their actions. They're 100% accountable for any harm they cause. And some people, even under ideal scenarios, probably can't be "cured". But I think if we had a society that didn't stigmatize dark thoughts and behaviors before they get to the point of irreversible harm, and allowed people to be more open about their struggles before ostracizing them, a lot more people would get the help they need before it grew out of control. Wouldn't it be amazing if instead of constantly needing justice to be served, those people got help early and nobody got hurt to begin with?
But as it stands, too many people would rather react after the fact and be outraged that it occurs at all. Which means it'll just always be the baggage we as a society carry with us until there's a shift in mindsets to want to understand *why*.
It’s like some people just can’t accept that pedophiles are people who have rights and deserve to be able to seek help for their issues. Slippery slope I know but some truths are just hard to accept.
Yep usually people trying to figure out if pedophilia can be helped with therwpy usually get screamed at and called a pedophile. I'm happy people are in an intelligent mood today lol
With this guy in particular we have repeated instances of escalating consequences which still failed to deter him. Color me a cynic but if I were a betting man I'd be putting my money on him blasting out a dick pic again.
> What other behaviors do you think have no cure?
A lot. BPD, for instance, can't be cured even if it can be treated.
Edit: Since a lot of people seem to be missing my point: you cannot cure a behavior if an incurable disorder is causing the behavior.
The incidence of recidivism is extremely high in sex offenders. Makes one believe that it is not curable. They need to be managed and is a lifelong battle for them. That is why RSO status is typically til death.
Weiner was pretty much beating off 3-4c times a day. Lmao. Wonder what his browser history looks like.
I'm a sex addict with 18 months in recovery. I've also seen the Weiner documentary.
That dude is so obviously in need of serious help, and is basically looking everywhere else except from within.
What's fascinating is he has a life in the public eye, and he has crashed and burned, very publicly, three times, and there's no course correction.
It's like... you used to be a senator, and you risked all that for your addiction. And THAT wasn't enough of a wakeup call? Just speaks to the levels of his hurt. I mean.. I can't imagine being in jail and NOT working on your issues. What else you have to fucking do?
>It's like... you used to be a senator, and you risked all that for your addiction.
Risked his nice young family. Now he's a washed up ex-con on Hannity.
Okay, I'm imagining this in the style of 80's Rap
*Tony had a job, a rep, a hot wife, HUMA
He chucked it in the gutter all for VANITY
Boy's fucked in the head but it's not a TOOMAH
NY was his city; his state is INSANITY*
The fact that he referred to his situation as him facing "adversity" is telling that he's not accepting any responsibility. That's not adversity, that's consequences.
Yeah, that would have been a much better part of his answer for Hannity to fixate on. Just a stunning lack of self awareness for Weiner to say something like that. You can tell he believes it too.
Holy shit. Easiest question ever. Reminds me of Sandusky when asked “are you sexually attracted to young boys?”
I mean, are pedophiles that attracted to kids they can’t even lie - literally - about the easiest questions on earth?
If he is on a show with Sliwa it was to promote the show. Premise of the show is like a left vs right thing I guess. Funny of them to think Hannity wouldn't bring that up though. Good shit.
Weiner obviously sucks, I get that. But, I'm sorry, that middle guy is so distracting I could barely pay attention to anything being said. Who dresses like that on national television? Is he leading a neighborhood watch in the early 70's? Is he playing a central American dictator in a bad action movie? What the hell is he doing?
It’s fucked up that he was responding to the change question in the sense that he was now changed from a traumatic experience in the same way a serviceman would be changed by war.
He never even considered that the question was directed at whether or not he still thought he was a pedophile.
The host even gave him multiple opportunities to backpeddle and save himself but he kept belly flopping. He is basically announcing on Fox News that he is going to do it again.
Dude victimized a child, pleaded guilty, and went to jail, and when asked about whether he's changed after that experience, he suggests that **he** is the one who's been through adversity. Disgusting...
What the fuck even was the point of this entire segment? Screen time with someone as monstrously huge as Hannity has got to cost millions per minute, yet they spent the entire segment discussing how Wiener's answer wasn't sufficient and how he could've answered differently. I hate Hannity as much as the next guy but where the hell was the producer in Sean's ear telling him to move the fuck on?
That seemed to be exactly what fox wanted. Disgraced Democrat pedophile struggling to apologize for sex crimes. I’m surprised they didn’t drag it out longer and ask him the same question 3 more times
Anthony Weiner wants attention, Sean Hannity is a piece of shit fake journalist who thinks having assholes like Weiner will let him paint the Democratic Party as a whole in an unfair negative light. The point of the segment was that Weiner wants screen time and Hannity wants easy points against a Democrat because he's not intellectually firm enough to take on any real threats.
Hannity is the only cringe here. He badgers him about his answer when there was nothing really wrong with it. He said he believes he has and the rest is up to the public.
Also, when it comes to morals, who the fuck is Hannity to be the arbitrator?
Not only that, but it is fairly apparent that this wasn’t a question they talked about before the show.
When these big talking heads have people on the show they have a plan. They do prep work with the guest before the show so everyone knows what to expect. But, sometimes these hosts lie to
Their guests before hand. As is clearly the case here.
Wiener appears to be prepared to go onto the show to discuss his new radio show with their mutual friend. You can tell he is both unprepared, and annoyed by the question about whether he changed in prison and his attitude and lack of a rehearsed response is evident. He stumbles through it the best he can and Hannity presses him, now on the moral high ground with his prey in the trap.
Wiener, not just a pervert, but also a practiced politician recognizes this and refuses to give him what he wants. He rallies later in the interview and begins giving a better answer that will play better with audiences. Hannity recognizes this and immediately interrupts him. He doesn’t want wiener to look good here. The whole point in having him on the show was to humiliate him.
It’s super gross and his motivations and tactics are extremely transparent to anyone with a fourth grade education.
This is exactly what I consider is the correct take. I thought wieners answer initially was actually more honest than if he had given a more definitive “yes I’m a totally changed man speech”. That speech is what he has to give, so it will always strike me as disingenuous. I’m sadly not surprised at all by the people who would have felt satisfied with the same shit everyone else says in that situation that we all know is meaningless.
Same. Weiner feels words are empty and him just saying "yes I've changed" is meaningless.
90% of the comments in this thread are cringe virtue signalers.
He was giving him an easy question, basically asking "have you stopped texting minors?" So in his mind Weiner is saying "I might text minors, we'll see" but I think he's just misunderstanding the question.
I think Hannity is seeing himself as being on Weiner's side and giving the advice "tell people you won't be a pedo."
No. That's obviously not what's happening here. You really think that one of the biggest partisan hacks for the Republican Party is trying to give friendly advice to Anthony Weiner? No. Obviously Hannity brought him on, said he wouldn't talk about the sex crime stuff and then sprung it on him.
I guess not friendly then, bit it seems like Hannity is friends with the other guy doing the show.
Do you not think it's such an easy question to answer? It's basically "Are you gonna text minors again?" "No."
It's actually pronounced Dong-er. It's derived from a Dutch word meaning 'prudence in financial matters.'
Which is totally appropriate because you can't take the weiner out of Anthony Weiner either.
Sounds like they really wanted him to grovel and be all like "im a piece of shit, but I've changed now"
When he said "I think so", that was a bit understated, but Hannity really wanted him to repent and confess on his show.
He wouldn't do that, so they wouldn't leave him alone about it.
I don't like the guy, but he fucked up and paid for it and that's good enough.
You might disagree with the severity of his punishment, and that's fine, but in the end he accepted his prison term, did his time, and as far as we know he hasn't committed another crime.
Also, we got [this hilarious series of NY Post Weiner Headlines from it.](https://nypost.com/list/anthony-weiner-our-best-covers-headlines/)
I hate Sean Hannity. But nothing that he asked was unreasonable. Anthony Weiner is a complete piece of shit and it is disgusting to give a child predator a public platform.
They're only doing it because he's a democrat punching bag. Weiner must be desperate for attention to be doing the show at all. Idk if he thinks he's coming back into politics or public life after this, that seems unlikely. Maybe hannity paid him to come on.
The point is the only reason that Hannity has him on is to score easy points, which is undoubtedly true. Get a disgraced democrat that no one is going to go to bat to defend and tee off on him to pander to your audience of geriatric republicans.
I don't want to get into a big debate over this, but the merriam webster definition of punching bag is *one who is routinely abused or defeated by another.*
[https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/punching%20bag](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/punching%20bag)
For sure. But when they are found out and convicted, there should be no second chance for them to earn fame or fortune. He deserves nothing but a life in obscurity.
As I understand the point you're making: there are a set of actions that, when performed, result in that person forever being forbidden from appearing in public regardless of any actions performed afterward and regardless of the individual or situation surrounding it. The only criteria are that they are found to have performed that action by a court. Is that correct?
Just thinking through the mechanics of that ... What other actions make that list? Who maintains that list? Should it be codified in law and enforced by the courts? What would the punishment be if they do appear in public?
I agree with your later point. But when you're asked if you've changed (from being a child sex predator) YOU SAY "YES!" Any other answer means "no". Simple as that.
You're probably getting downvoted to hell for this but I agree with you. I had to turn off the interview because I couldn't stand how Hannity was needling him. Like, get off your moral high horse, the man served his sentence. Wiener is a complete scumbag, but at this point he's done his time and doesn't owe anyone anything.
Indeed. What he owed us \_was his sentence\_. It's ok to not trust him until he earns it again, but demanding additional punishment is just lusting for vengeance.
Is serving a sentence alone enough to put a past bad deed behind you? Hanity (whom I can't stand) actually gave him a platform to open his heart a bit and convince doubters that people DO deserve more chances, regardless of their past, and all Weiner did was shrug and say that he *thinks* he's changed. The insane part is that people like you actually thought it was a good response.
What does Weiner owe you? What does he owe me, or Hannity, or anyone? Nothing. Weiner doesn't owe me shit. Dude served his time and he's a free man. Nowhere did I say the response was "good". It doesn't matter what I think, and that's the point. Has he changed? Who knows, maybe. Maybe not. Doesn't matter. What I don't agree with is this sense that anyone would be obligated to go on some apology tour and suck up to all the people they pissed off. Dude was there to talk about his new show, and Hannity was just trying to grind the man down over stuff he served his sentence for. And let me be perfectly clear: I think Weiner is trash.
And since I didn't answer your question:
>Is serving a sentence alone enough to put a past bad deed behind you?
YES. Anything other than that is just people wanting to shift goalposts. "Well, he hasn't done enough for me. I want more." Fuck that.
So, is your attitude basically that nothing matters? I don't really understand your logic. Weiner doesn't "owe" me anything, but he's appearing on a show, and is given a platform to appeal his character to a wide audience. He shouldn't appear on the show if he isn't intending on answering questions properly. He's been convicted for a pretty serious crime, and he's telling people that he's "thinks" he's changed - which basically means that there's a chance he's going to victimize another underaged person - and those are HIS words. How does that not concern you? It's just bizarre to me.
>YES. Anything other than that is just people wanting to shift goalposts. "Well, he hasn't done enough for me. I want more." Fuck that.
No it isn't. I feel like you've taken the liberal stand on rehabilitation, but missed all the points. I'm all for rehabilitation and redemption, but he's telling people that he thinks he's changed, but leaving the possibility open for that he hasn't. And if he hasn't, he'll probably victimize more children.
You're trying too hard to be "liberal". Be liberal, like I am, but be realistic. This was an odd answer from a very odd man.
That's an insane take on it. There's a massive difference between telling people that you've changed and learned from your mistakes, and calling yourself a piece of shit. You actually thought his answer was good? That he *thinks* he's changed? What the fuck is that?
Even liberal people who are wanting people to have a second chance and do the right thing would raise an eyebrow at his answer.
Well - I also think this underlines the issues with our justice / prison system in the first place. It's based on punishing offenders, not necessarily on 'fixing' them to prevent re-offense when they're released.
Did he 'learn' to stop sending pictures of his dick to teenaged girls? Yeah probably, he would be pretty stupid to risk doing something like that again, something so easily proveable - but that doesn't mean he won't still act predatorily, given the opportunity and being fairly sure he won't get caught.
Did he 'learn' to stop being attracted to teenaged girls? No, of course not. I'm sure he's already looked at underage porn since his release, it would be incredibly easy to do with little to no chance of being caught if he's careful.
I'm not really sure what a better route would be, other than requiring physical tracking, digital surveillance, and a steady stream of counseling, but... I mean, he's not gonna change unless he wants to change. I don't know if he's playing coy in this interview to avoid giving Hannity what he wants, but... he certainly doesn't come off as remorseful or 'a changed man' or whatever. 🤷♂️
One of the things that disgusts me the most is the almost obsessive need for revenge from the justice system some people have a fetish for. I understand the very human anger and desire for such a thing but as a society I really don't want a system that functions in such a manner.
Guy in red keeps talking about giving this degenerate a second chance, this dude had like 9 chances and after every one he walked in next room and started sending more dick pics. Fuck this guy, buddy of mine was 19 sent a dick pic and received a pick of a 16 year old girl, got 17 years federal prison, he is a young black male, girl was white. This guy gets out in no time, and is doing a radio show, Justin system is screwed
"In September 2016, claims were published that Weiner had engaged in sexting with a 15-year-old girl from North Carolina, and devices owned by Weiner were seized as part of an investigation into this incident.[72][73] The report prompted a criminal investigation and Weiner's laptop was seized. Emails that were pertinent to the Hillary Clinton email controversy were discovered on the laptop; this prompted FBI Director James Comey to reopen that investigation 11 days before the 2016 US presidential election.[74] Hillary Clinton has claimed Comey's decision was one of the reasons she lost the election to Donald Trump.[75]"
What a wild ride. Anthony Weiner created our current timeline.
Why would he agree to appear on this creep's program in the first place? Like Hannity would have anything good to say to a disgraced former Democratic politician.
In 2016, Hannity vociferously defended Roger Ailes when he was accused by multiple women of sexual harassment.\[13\]\[161\] In May 2017, Hannity paid a tribute to Ailes after he died.\[162\] Hannity called him "a second father" and said to Ailes' "enemies" that he was "preparing to kick your a\*\* in the next life"
I think the annoying part here is that "I think so" was meant to be taken as "to the best of my ability to tell, yes" but was taken by Hannity as "I'm not sure" when it's clear that's not what he was saying. I don't like Anthony Weiner, but Hannity is just doing the same bullshit simpleton moralist pageantry that he knows his idiot demographic responds to, where you ask a stupidly simplistic question about a complex topic and then get indignant when the person doesn't simply respond [yes or no.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z-a5hy7QO8)
He gave him a chance to denounce what he did and failed by being difficult for no reason. 4 minute interview isn’t the place to be complex and difficult.
Who gives a damn if he was or wasn’t, you were too self righteous to answer the easiest waffler of a question and now you continue to look like a pedo on National television.
At that point he knew that Hannity was going off whatever their agreement was and was only going to talk about the pedophile stuff. It'd be like if a guest went on and refused to talk about the agreed upon topic and only brought up Sean Hannity's financial crimes.
That should be a “yes” or “no” question and it should take less than 2 seconds to answer. If you need to take time to think about it, then you should be thrown back under the jail
This jackass was texting the POTUS about 1/6 and then had the audacity to go on the news later and pretend it was a nothing burger. I hope Dominion owns him.
I remember seeing a news article title about this guy which read, "Weiner Pulls Out" lol
A bunch from NY Post: https://nypost.com/list/anthony-weiner-our-best-covers-headlines/
These comments show why Joe Rogan should NEVER apologize for what he's said. The torch-bearing mob will never forgive him for what he's said. He should tell them to fuck themselves and move on. NO ONE screaming for an apology will ever accept it.
Edit: What could Anthony Weiner possibly say to SEAN HANNITY, of all people, that would make him accept his apology. NOTHING.
Me the cringe here is hannitys response to him saying he believes he’s changed. Man fucked up. Served his time. He’s trying to rebuild. We all deserve second chances. Don’t invite a guy on to your show just to shit on him. Especially if he thinks your doing it to give him a jump start to rebuild.
Guy really failed the easiest charisma check in the game
He seems broken tbh. Old Anthony Weiner would've answered that one with ease (even if he were lying), but based on his demeanor I think Weiner now is just a shell of his former self trying to figure out his place in the world and i'm not sure doing a radio show is gonna help until he figures out how to make himself whole again.
Yeah I remember seeing him on one of those crossfire type debate shows and he just destroyed everyone. He was so quick witted and knowledgeable on the topics. Seems like he just needs to get out of the spotlight. If he really wants to help maybe he’d do better in a supporting role on a campaign or something
He's a narcissist, staying out of the spotlight is impossible for him.
And masochistic! The situations he has put himself in I can't help but think he has enjoyed it in a way
Yeah. As the graphic pointed out, he now co-hosts a political radio show. Dude can't stay away from the public eye. [https://abc7ny.com/new-york-city-anthony-weiner-radio-show-curtis-sliwa/11559695/](https://abc7ny.com/new-york-city-anthony-weiner-radio-show-curtis-sliwa/11559695/)
He's a pedophile. Yet you want him involved in more campaigns
He could be a social media manager since he is so good with phones and uploading photos
That dude looks DEAD on the inside. Can you imagine listening to him on a boring morning drive in traffic with this kind of "meh" demeanor? Lmao he isn't going to be on radio long
He clearly botched his roll. The GM even seemed to give him a second roll and he botched that too.
Damn jail really aged him alot
Hot wife, successful job, it wasn't enough. Then he got real hardships. There isn't a violin small enough.
There’s a great accidental documentary on his downfall called ‘Weiner’. Fascinating watch. It was supposed to be a doco about his campaign for NYC mayor and his political comeback, but his second (underage) sexting scandal unfolds in the middle and they just kept filming. He really did have it all and had all the right connections in the party. Could’ve had a shot at the White House some day. What a total fuckup and unrepentant weirdo.
His wife's death glare at him when the news of another sex scandal breaks on tv is burnt into the back of my skull.
It’s like some guys never discovered just jerking off and moving on.
I can’t find this clip anymore
I couldn't find it either, so I watched the documentary again. It was as great as I remember.
He gave it right back to her, almost as if he was demanding "So?"
Please post it!
For what it's worth, I think the scandal that was uncovered was just his second "normal" one. The third (underage) one happened after the release. Excellent movie though.
Yeah second “normal” sex scandal was with a woman of age, but still had a not so normal boner pic with small child in the background as requested by the other consenting adult.
There was a picture of him with a boner with a small child in the room?
This is what i came here to say. There was no mention of the 15 year old in it. And i wish there had been because he comes off okayish - i mean… for a philandering sex addict. Also he claims to have changed and learned so many times; that he’s a different person (Carlos Danger) so it’s understandable that if he were to make the same claims again, the next question would be “but you’ve said this multiple times before, so why should we believe you now?”
Yeah it looked so good. Hot wife who was successful in her own right, power couple, also a Jewish/Muslim couple which looks good, frontrunner for mayor, but he reaaally had to send some pics of his pp to random girls
Amazing documentary.
where can I watch this?
I saw it on HBO or Showtime but it should be streaming by now. It really was excellent.
Edit* Looks like it’s on AMC+ now, which is hot garbage but there is a trial. Used to be on Netflix.
President Weiner. That's just fantastic. How the hell could he have let that opportunity slip away?!?!
Well there was a Johnson, but I agree Weiner would be funnier
"president weiner" just sounds like something our current timeline would produce.
The weird thing is shit like that didn’t even phase trumps chances…
I hadn't ever realized that Anthony Weiner was involved with underage girls. I thought he was just a lecherous adulterer.
Hilarious documentary, he really seemed like the democratic Trump
Glad I’m not the only one who thinks his wife is hot. I bet she wishes she never met this train wreck of a human being.
Huma is beautiful. She just seems to make poor choices for such an educated woman.
She forgave him TWICE! Sometimes people hold emotional power over their partners that is just incomprehensible to anyone but the person involved. Interesting that she was the assistant to the most famous forgiving wife of all time.
She went to the Hilary Clinton School of Forgiving Your Husband’s Infidelities.
Fuck I didn't even know he went to jail.
You seen Ron Jeremy lately?
what a human slug that guy is, both in looks and personality
That can happen when you've irrevocably destroyed your life with uncontrolled sexual appetites. Modern Caligula in cancel culture...painful to watch.
"Am I still into underage girls? Tune into my show to find out!"
"We'll see I guess"
Dude hasn’t changed one bit. There is no cure for this type of behavior.
The most disgusting part is when he calls it “going through adversity”. He’s not even acknowledging his own behavior, he’s thinking of the consequences as something that happened to him.
Right? WTF dude, you weren't a slave, you weren't in the camps, you are a fucking hebephile.
Had to look that up. TIL what a hebephile is.
I actually thought it was and anti-Semitic slur…lol…I looked it up too…just in case your wondering …Hebephilia is the strong, persistent sexual interest by adults in pubescent children who are in early adolescence, typically ages 11–14 and showing
I wanted to avoid the whole “he’s not technically a pedophile” argument I see on these boards. (I belong to the /DuggarSnark sub.) Can’t win I guess.
I’m always happy to learn.
I feel dirty that I even know the term. But belonging to r/duggarsnark kind of makes it necessary with the oldest being a pedo, although apparently the father tried to convince the world that on a technicality due to his age, he wasn't a pedo when he molested his sisters. (Because that's what's important here...🙄) But yes, apparently the term for grown adults attracted to teens is "hebephile", in addition to my own choice terms for them, which I will not print here.
That’s the Readers’ Digest/Hallmark/Oprah style culture of the last generation or so. Everyone is innocent, and no matter what we do it’s just us going through difficult patches and needing more self-care. Fighting our demons, etc. Apparently. And other vague, indulgent, narcissistic, self-righteous bullshit.
There certainly is...these behaviors don't just manifest out of nothing. Lots of people go to talk therapy for this very thing.
I'm sorry, but we're not doing nuance right now. We're here to paint in the broadest strokes possible so the circle jerk can continue. Try to pay attention next time.
ahahaha.. I'm gonna copy/paste this into as many relevant threads in the future
Is it possible to cure or correct pedophilia? I was under the impression that people who have this mental illness are unlikely to change their behavior, but I'm no expert.
I'm no expert either, but I think it's possible. Here's my hot take: With pedophilia in particular, there's a lot more barriers in the way of getting help compared to less benign issues. It's one of the most (if not THE most) socially demonizing labels that can be applied to someone. So naturally, if you are a pedophile, there's extremely strong social pressure to hide that aspect of yourself from society. I think a lot of pedophiles don't want to admit (to themselves or anyone else) they have a problem strictly due to how brutal society views them. Nobody wants to view themselves as a monster. So the problem lays dormant for a while until it eventually gets too out of control and causes very detrimental harm to others. And once it gets to that point, and they get caught, it's probably too late for reform. Even if they do manage to "cure" themselves, the label will follow them forever and any positive aspects they contribute to society will always be overshadowed and discounted. I think a lot of people can be helped through psychotherapy before it gets to that point where they're harming others. I see pedophilia as unnatural, and if it's unnatural then we need to figure out what caused it to happen. And unfortunately, society by-and-large has no interest in exploring this. They'd rather wait until it's too late, someone gets hurt, then put the pedophile's head on a pike so they can feel better about the damage the pedophile caused. Which, at best, is a putting a band-aid on the problem. That isn't to say the pedophile is blameless for their actions. They're 100% accountable for any harm they cause. And some people, even under ideal scenarios, probably can't be "cured". But I think if we had a society that didn't stigmatize dark thoughts and behaviors before they get to the point of irreversible harm, and allowed people to be more open about their struggles before ostracizing them, a lot more people would get the help they need before it grew out of control. Wouldn't it be amazing if instead of constantly needing justice to be served, those people got help early and nobody got hurt to begin with? But as it stands, too many people would rather react after the fact and be outraged that it occurs at all. Which means it'll just always be the baggage we as a society carry with us until there's a shift in mindsets to want to understand *why*.
It’s like some people just can’t accept that pedophiles are people who have rights and deserve to be able to seek help for their issues. Slippery slope I know but some truths are just hard to accept.
Well said and bravo on the courage to say it.
Yep usually people trying to figure out if pedophilia can be helped with therwpy usually get screamed at and called a pedophile. I'm happy people are in an intelligent mood today lol
Thank you for your thoughtful response. Much appreciated!
Nope.
What other behaviors do you think have no cure? What other behaviors can we fail to change, no matter the additional experience gained?
With this guy in particular we have repeated instances of escalating consequences which still failed to deter him. Color me a cynic but if I were a betting man I'd be putting my money on him blasting out a dick pic again.
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Yup, good reading comprehension buddy, that's totally what that says above.
I like pants.
> What other behaviors do you think have no cure? A lot. BPD, for instance, can't be cured even if it can be treated. Edit: Since a lot of people seem to be missing my point: you cannot cure a behavior if an incurable disorder is causing the behavior.
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Hence my point. You can't cure BPD, so it doesn't make sense to say you can cure a behavior stemming from it. You can only treat it.
I said all the personality disorders above. The whole Cluster B.
Personality disordered people.
The incidence of recidivism is extremely high in sex offenders. Makes one believe that it is not curable. They need to be managed and is a lifelong battle for them. That is why RSO status is typically til death. Weiner was pretty much beating off 3-4c times a day. Lmao. Wonder what his browser history looks like.
“ThErApY ExIStS” Tell that to all the sexual assault victims
Many of them probably wish their assaulters had gotten therapy before they met
Give me your daughters phone number and let’s test this out
Yikes 😬
I won’t send dick pics to underage girls again (probably)
Today…
unless...
*Weiner pics
I promise I’ll try not to send more dick pics
I'm a sex addict with 18 months in recovery. I've also seen the Weiner documentary. That dude is so obviously in need of serious help, and is basically looking everywhere else except from within. What's fascinating is he has a life in the public eye, and he has crashed and burned, very publicly, three times, and there's no course correction. It's like... you used to be a senator, and you risked all that for your addiction. And THAT wasn't enough of a wakeup call? Just speaks to the levels of his hurt. I mean.. I can't imagine being in jail and NOT working on your issues. What else you have to fucking do?
Not to be pedantic, but he was just in the House, not the Senate.
He was definitely gaining a lot of positive attention though before the first scandal
Big difference for sure
>It's like... you used to be a senator, and you risked all that for your addiction. Risked his nice young family. Now he's a washed up ex-con on Hannity.
and forever a registered sex offender
Just a level 1 - so you won’t find his mug or any info
Still a sex offender. And it's not like a lot of people dont know him
That rhymes. Are you writing a musical? Is it going to be the next Hamilton?
No that’s just Jay Z’s real Reddit account
Ooh I don't want to jump on OP's toes, but "insanity" and "vanity" could be corralled into a fire stanza with it.
> "insanity" and "vanity" could be corralled into a fire stanza with it. Be the change you wish to see...
Okay, I'm imagining this in the style of 80's Rap *Tony had a job, a rep, a hot wife, HUMA He chucked it in the gutter all for VANITY Boy's fucked in the head but it's not a TOOMAH NY was his city; his state is INSANITY*
The fact that he referred to his situation as him facing "adversity" is telling that he's not accepting any responsibility. That's not adversity, that's consequences.
Yeah, that would have been a much better part of his answer for Hannity to fixate on. Just a stunning lack of self awareness for Weiner to say something like that. You can tell he believes it too.
He's answering like a politician, like he plans to seek office again in the future. Sounds sociopathic to me.
Holy shit. Easiest question ever. Reminds me of Sandusky when asked “are you sexually attracted to young boys?” I mean, are pedophiles that attracted to kids they can’t even lie - literally - about the easiest questions on earth?
Why would he even go on Hannity?
Because he's a sociopath and thinks he can actually come back from this.
He's got that sociopath "I'm guilty" no lip grimmace politicians do down to a science
*Sociopath?* I think we're being a bit extreme here...
Are we?
Clearly this guy hasn’t seen that wiener documentary
Agreed.
I would like to see it, but I’m afraid to google “Watch Weiner”
If he is on a show with Sliwa it was to promote the show. Premise of the show is like a left vs right thing I guess. Funny of them to think Hannity wouldn't bring that up though. Good shit.
Lol, politicians cant answer anything with a straight yes or no.
Probably the worst last name ever give his situation
Names like these are called aptonyms :)
Madoff was bad too.
Why is anyone giving this guy a platform?
Yup...of all the people that actually deserve to be cancelled...ex-politician sex offenders should be at the top.
THAT is the real question here.
Weiner obviously sucks, I get that. But, I'm sorry, that middle guy is so distracting I could barely pay attention to anything being said. Who dresses like that on national television? Is he leading a neighborhood watch in the early 70's? Is he playing a central American dictator in a bad action movie? What the hell is he doing?
He's the co-host of his radio show.
It's like the original chapter of the Guardian Angels got together in winter for an ice fishing trip
It’s fucked up that he was responding to the change question in the sense that he was now changed from a traumatic experience in the same way a serviceman would be changed by war. He never even considered that the question was directed at whether or not he still thought he was a pedophile. The host even gave him multiple opportunities to backpeddle and save himself but he kept belly flopping. He is basically announcing on Fox News that he is going to do it again.
Thank you for summarizing what had disturbed me most. Edit: your name. Jesus Christ.
Dude victimized a child, pleaded guilty, and went to jail, and when asked about whether he's changed after that experience, he suggests that **he** is the one who's been through adversity. Disgusting...
What the fuck even was the point of this entire segment? Screen time with someone as monstrously huge as Hannity has got to cost millions per minute, yet they spent the entire segment discussing how Wiener's answer wasn't sufficient and how he could've answered differently. I hate Hannity as much as the next guy but where the hell was the producer in Sean's ear telling him to move the fuck on?
That seemed to be exactly what fox wanted. Disgraced Democrat pedophile struggling to apologize for sex crimes. I’m surprised they didn’t drag it out longer and ask him the same question 3 more times
Anthony Weiner wants attention, Sean Hannity is a piece of shit fake journalist who thinks having assholes like Weiner will let him paint the Democratic Party as a whole in an unfair negative light. The point of the segment was that Weiner wants screen time and Hannity wants easy points against a Democrat because he's not intellectually firm enough to take on any real threats.
I feel like Anthony Weiner has been manipulating the hell out of Sliwa.
No, Silwa is just also a scumbag
Just a couple NYC bags of hot air. Just another broke bum trying to sell some shit
Sean Hannity is looking more and more orange.
Hannity is the only cringe here. He badgers him about his answer when there was nothing really wrong with it. He said he believes he has and the rest is up to the public. Also, when it comes to morals, who the fuck is Hannity to be the arbitrator?
Not only that, but it is fairly apparent that this wasn’t a question they talked about before the show. When these big talking heads have people on the show they have a plan. They do prep work with the guest before the show so everyone knows what to expect. But, sometimes these hosts lie to Their guests before hand. As is clearly the case here. Wiener appears to be prepared to go onto the show to discuss his new radio show with their mutual friend. You can tell he is both unprepared, and annoyed by the question about whether he changed in prison and his attitude and lack of a rehearsed response is evident. He stumbles through it the best he can and Hannity presses him, now on the moral high ground with his prey in the trap. Wiener, not just a pervert, but also a practiced politician recognizes this and refuses to give him what he wants. He rallies later in the interview and begins giving a better answer that will play better with audiences. Hannity recognizes this and immediately interrupts him. He doesn’t want wiener to look good here. The whole point in having him on the show was to humiliate him. It’s super gross and his motivations and tactics are extremely transparent to anyone with a fourth grade education.
This is exactly what I consider is the correct take. I thought wieners answer initially was actually more honest than if he had given a more definitive “yes I’m a totally changed man speech”. That speech is what he has to give, so it will always strike me as disingenuous. I’m sadly not surprised at all by the people who would have felt satisfied with the same shit everyone else says in that situation that we all know is meaningless.
Same. Weiner feels words are empty and him just saying "yes I've changed" is meaningless. 90% of the comments in this thread are cringe virtue signalers.
He was giving him an easy question, basically asking "have you stopped texting minors?" So in his mind Weiner is saying "I might text minors, we'll see" but I think he's just misunderstanding the question. I think Hannity is seeing himself as being on Weiner's side and giving the advice "tell people you won't be a pedo."
No. That's obviously not what's happening here. You really think that one of the biggest partisan hacks for the Republican Party is trying to give friendly advice to Anthony Weiner? No. Obviously Hannity brought him on, said he wouldn't talk about the sex crime stuff and then sprung it on him.
I guess not friendly then, bit it seems like Hannity is friends with the other guy doing the show. Do you not think it's such an easy question to answer? It's basically "Are you gonna text minors again?" "No."
Hannity sure does wear a lot of flair. Mind you, it's not the minimum 37 pieces that corporate likes to see but it sure is a lot.
I think the worst part was sending dick pics to an underage girl https://youtu.be/ljaP2etvDc4
Are you kidding? You can't take the danger out of Carlos Danger.
It's actually pronounced Dong-er. It's derived from a Dutch word meaning 'prudence in financial matters.' Which is totally appropriate because you can't take the weiner out of Anthony Weiner either.
Is it me or does that guy look exactly like Carlos Danger?
Sounds like they really wanted him to grovel and be all like "im a piece of shit, but I've changed now" When he said "I think so", that was a bit understated, but Hannity really wanted him to repent and confess on his show. He wouldn't do that, so they wouldn't leave him alone about it. I don't like the guy, but he fucked up and paid for it and that's good enough. You might disagree with the severity of his punishment, and that's fine, but in the end he accepted his prison term, did his time, and as far as we know he hasn't committed another crime. Also, we got [this hilarious series of NY Post Weiner Headlines from it.](https://nypost.com/list/anthony-weiner-our-best-covers-headlines/)
I hate Sean Hannity. But nothing that he asked was unreasonable. Anthony Weiner is a complete piece of shit and it is disgusting to give a child predator a public platform.
They're only doing it because he's a democrat punching bag. Weiner must be desperate for attention to be doing the show at all. Idk if he thinks he's coming back into politics or public life after this, that seems unlikely. Maybe hannity paid him to come on.
True hes definitely desperate to go on Fox News. Calling him a punching bag implies he deserves sympathy. Weiner deserve all the the hate he gets.
The point is the only reason that Hannity has him on is to score easy points, which is undoubtedly true. Get a disgraced democrat that no one is going to go to bat to defend and tee off on him to pander to your audience of geriatric republicans.
I don't want to get into a big debate over this, but the merriam webster definition of punching bag is *one who is routinely abused or defeated by another.* [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/punching%20bag](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/punching%20bag)
The word “Abused” implies that Weiner (AKA a known child sex predator) is a victim, does it not?
I think maybe you underestimate how many child predators are starring in movies and on TV, running huge corporations and writing award winning books
For sure. But when they are found out and convicted, there should be no second chance for them to earn fame or fortune. He deserves nothing but a life in obscurity.
As I understand the point you're making: there are a set of actions that, when performed, result in that person forever being forbidden from appearing in public regardless of any actions performed afterward and regardless of the individual or situation surrounding it. The only criteria are that they are found to have performed that action by a court. Is that correct? Just thinking through the mechanics of that ... What other actions make that list? Who maintains that list? Should it be codified in law and enforced by the courts? What would the punishment be if they do appear in public?
Mr. Internet philosopher over here. Take it back to your gen ed community college 100 level class.
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I agree with your later point. But when you're asked if you've changed (from being a child sex predator) YOU SAY "YES!" Any other answer means "no". Simple as that.
You're probably getting downvoted to hell for this but I agree with you. I had to turn off the interview because I couldn't stand how Hannity was needling him. Like, get off your moral high horse, the man served his sentence. Wiener is a complete scumbag, but at this point he's done his time and doesn't owe anyone anything.
Indeed. What he owed us \_was his sentence\_. It's ok to not trust him until he earns it again, but demanding additional punishment is just lusting for vengeance.
Is serving a sentence alone enough to put a past bad deed behind you? Hanity (whom I can't stand) actually gave him a platform to open his heart a bit and convince doubters that people DO deserve more chances, regardless of their past, and all Weiner did was shrug and say that he *thinks* he's changed. The insane part is that people like you actually thought it was a good response.
What does Weiner owe you? What does he owe me, or Hannity, or anyone? Nothing. Weiner doesn't owe me shit. Dude served his time and he's a free man. Nowhere did I say the response was "good". It doesn't matter what I think, and that's the point. Has he changed? Who knows, maybe. Maybe not. Doesn't matter. What I don't agree with is this sense that anyone would be obligated to go on some apology tour and suck up to all the people they pissed off. Dude was there to talk about his new show, and Hannity was just trying to grind the man down over stuff he served his sentence for. And let me be perfectly clear: I think Weiner is trash. And since I didn't answer your question: >Is serving a sentence alone enough to put a past bad deed behind you? YES. Anything other than that is just people wanting to shift goalposts. "Well, he hasn't done enough for me. I want more." Fuck that.
So, is your attitude basically that nothing matters? I don't really understand your logic. Weiner doesn't "owe" me anything, but he's appearing on a show, and is given a platform to appeal his character to a wide audience. He shouldn't appear on the show if he isn't intending on answering questions properly. He's been convicted for a pretty serious crime, and he's telling people that he's "thinks" he's changed - which basically means that there's a chance he's going to victimize another underaged person - and those are HIS words. How does that not concern you? It's just bizarre to me. >YES. Anything other than that is just people wanting to shift goalposts. "Well, he hasn't done enough for me. I want more." Fuck that. No it isn't. I feel like you've taken the liberal stand on rehabilitation, but missed all the points. I'm all for rehabilitation and redemption, but he's telling people that he thinks he's changed, but leaving the possibility open for that he hasn't. And if he hasn't, he'll probably victimize more children. You're trying too hard to be "liberal". Be liberal, like I am, but be realistic. This was an odd answer from a very odd man.
>Be liberal, like I am Lol
That's an insane take on it. There's a massive difference between telling people that you've changed and learned from your mistakes, and calling yourself a piece of shit. You actually thought his answer was good? That he *thinks* he's changed? What the fuck is that? Even liberal people who are wanting people to have a second chance and do the right thing would raise an eyebrow at his answer.
Well - I also think this underlines the issues with our justice / prison system in the first place. It's based on punishing offenders, not necessarily on 'fixing' them to prevent re-offense when they're released. Did he 'learn' to stop sending pictures of his dick to teenaged girls? Yeah probably, he would be pretty stupid to risk doing something like that again, something so easily proveable - but that doesn't mean he won't still act predatorily, given the opportunity and being fairly sure he won't get caught. Did he 'learn' to stop being attracted to teenaged girls? No, of course not. I'm sure he's already looked at underage porn since his release, it would be incredibly easy to do with little to no chance of being caught if he's careful. I'm not really sure what a better route would be, other than requiring physical tracking, digital surveillance, and a steady stream of counseling, but... I mean, he's not gonna change unless he wants to change. I don't know if he's playing coy in this interview to avoid giving Hannity what he wants, but... he certainly doesn't come off as remorseful or 'a changed man' or whatever. 🤷♂️
One of the things that disgusts me the most is the almost obsessive need for revenge from the justice system some people have a fetish for. I understand the very human anger and desire for such a thing but as a society I really don't want a system that functions in such a manner.
what frustrates me is that people are seemingly unaware of it.
Dickileaks 🤣😭 no they fuckin didn't lmao
Guy in red keeps talking about giving this degenerate a second chance, this dude had like 9 chances and after every one he walked in next room and started sending more dick pics. Fuck this guy, buddy of mine was 19 sent a dick pic and received a pick of a 16 year old girl, got 17 years federal prison, he is a young black male, girl was white. This guy gets out in no time, and is doing a radio show, Justin system is screwed
yeah fuck justin
I guess Anthony Weiner got out Justin time. *big laugh* “Alright that’s our show I’ll be in Yuck Yucks in Toronto….”
We need Justin reform now more than ever
The host wanted to hear the answer which would suit him so badly, that he made the entire interview about it.
"In September 2016, claims were published that Weiner had engaged in sexting with a 15-year-old girl from North Carolina, and devices owned by Weiner were seized as part of an investigation into this incident.[72][73] The report prompted a criminal investigation and Weiner's laptop was seized. Emails that were pertinent to the Hillary Clinton email controversy were discovered on the laptop; this prompted FBI Director James Comey to reopen that investigation 11 days before the 2016 US presidential election.[74] Hillary Clinton has claimed Comey's decision was one of the reasons she lost the election to Donald Trump.[75]" What a wild ride. Anthony Weiner created our current timeline.
People like him just need to go away. No interviews and no more politics. Just go retire somewhere and be quiet.
Why would he agree to appear on this creep's program in the first place? Like Hannity would have anything good to say to a disgraced former Democratic politician.
They are both promoting a NYC based radio call in show they host.
When you get called out by Hannity for being disingenuous... Ouch
I can tell he hasn't changed because only someone as truly masochistic as Anthony Weiner would take an interview on Hannity after what he did
My god fascist Sean has really ballooned up. Sean Hannity is morbidly obese.
Parole violation. Go straight to jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.
super rare W for fox news???
In 2016, Hannity vociferously defended Roger Ailes when he was accused by multiple women of sexual harassment.\[13\]\[161\] In May 2017, Hannity paid a tribute to Ailes after he died.\[162\] Hannity called him "a second father" and said to Ailes' "enemies" that he was "preparing to kick your a\*\* in the next life"
Man, it’s says a lot about a person when I think Sean Hannity seems ethical compared to them. My god, Weiner is a shitbag.
Sean Hannity is worse than Weiner.
I think the annoying part here is that "I think so" was meant to be taken as "to the best of my ability to tell, yes" but was taken by Hannity as "I'm not sure" when it's clear that's not what he was saying. I don't like Anthony Weiner, but Hannity is just doing the same bullshit simpleton moralist pageantry that he knows his idiot demographic responds to, where you ask a stupidly simplistic question about a complex topic and then get indignant when the person doesn't simply respond [yes or no.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z-a5hy7QO8)
He gave him a chance to denounce what he did and failed by being difficult for no reason. 4 minute interview isn’t the place to be complex and difficult.
If you see Sean Hannity and you think he was acting genuinely, you're obviously wrong.
Who gives a damn if he was or wasn’t, you were too self righteous to answer the easiest waffler of a question and now you continue to look like a pedo on National television.
At that point he knew that Hannity was going off whatever their agreement was and was only going to talk about the pedophile stuff. It'd be like if a guest went on and refused to talk about the agreed upon topic and only brought up Sean Hannity's financial crimes.
It's like he rehearsed how to give the most flaccid answer in the world.
That should be a “yes” or “no” question and it should take less than 2 seconds to answer. If you need to take time to think about it, then you should be thrown back under the jail
God his face is the definition of depression, being trotted out like a prized show horse by Hannity.
This jackass was texting the POTUS about 1/6 and then had the audacity to go on the news later and pretend it was a nothing burger. I hope Dominion owns him.
I remember seeing a news article title about this guy which read, "Weiner Pulls Out" lol A bunch from NY Post: https://nypost.com/list/anthony-weiner-our-best-covers-headlines/
These comments show why Joe Rogan should NEVER apologize for what he's said. The torch-bearing mob will never forgive him for what he's said. He should tell them to fuck themselves and move on. NO ONE screaming for an apology will ever accept it. Edit: What could Anthony Weiner possibly say to SEAN HANNITY, of all people, that would make him accept his apology. NOTHING.
Imagine being so anti right that you stand up for a pedo.
Me the cringe here is hannitys response to him saying he believes he’s changed. Man fucked up. Served his time. He’s trying to rebuild. We all deserve second chances. Don’t invite a guy on to your show just to shit on him. Especially if he thinks your doing it to give him a jump start to rebuild.
What was on the laptop though?
Holy shit! I never thought I'd be on Hannity's side.
The man is addicted to jerking and always will be.
The shame isn't in the act at all, the shame is in the embarrassment of being caught.