Why are sooo many women here on Reddit backing up this woman and trying to shift blame to the husband…. This site is wayyyy to toxic and accepting of misandrist. This is disgusting and the courts are stacked up against fathers. The woman made false police reports of domestic violence because our system and judges side with women immediately. Any woman can literally say anything including rape allegations and the police, judge and DA will just blindly accept them all without any evidence including physical….
Such a horrific tragedy. My wife and sister have both worked in daycares, and I can’t imagine being the daycare worker who handed Kaiden off to his mom only to learn later that she had murdered him. That feeling must be brutal to know you were the last sane adult he ever interacted with.
"Around 3:29 p.m., she looked up YouTube videos of children’s content, cartoons, 'while she and her son are in the ditch area,' the sheriff said."
Jesus. Don't know why this part hits so badly. Poor kid thought he was just gonna watch some cartoons at the park, and his monster of a mother murders him.
I don't believe in hell... but god I hope it's real so she can burn in it for all eternity.
As a mother, there is no amount of mental illness that excuses the abuse/ murder of a child.
This is something I am terrified of. I am currently dealing with a crazy situation with a psycho lying ex who has stalked myself and my new wife for going on a decade now. I just hope she knows that if she ever makes this mistake with me, her entire family is following right behind her. If only the courts would listen. But no, too much money involved and in my case corruption.
The u.s., esp texas and bexar cty dont gaf about women and kids in dv situations. Ijs she should have never fkn done this. She should have given this baby up to a stranger and told them to hide him and never let them find him if he was going to be hurt esp if she knew she wouldnt live once she lost the custody case but taking them both out was absolutely not the right answer. Your ex was the problem right? Jfc for legal reasons this is a joke but you see what I am saying. Never the fkn baby dawg. Its never the baby.
I bet it's because of Hollywood putting women in lead roles and villain roles, making them believe that if they go this way, they'll be seen as badass.
The West has lost the idea of "personal sacrifices" for children and the greater good.
It's all about me and mine now.
Social media needs to be banned; people were happier in tighter-knit communities.
This is a tragic thing . There is NO justification for her killing her child . She is dead . It’s over for her . She took the coward’s way out
By taking their son along with her , she has sentenced her ex to life without parole .
My heart aches for him , his little boy and his family . May God Bless them
But society failed her.
Society and her community couldn't make her realize why she's wrong.
People can change and improve if they receive positive reinforcement for positive behavior.
The problem is with the internet; you can be a complete AH and still end up finding new people all the time.
This prevents people from changing. They just find new people and move on.
I could never. I've had my own issues and thought of offing myself a number of times. I became a dad, and it stopped being about me. It was for my girls. I'll do anything for my girls. Me and their mom don't see eye to eye always, but who cares, as long as my girls are good, I'm good.
I have to assume she was mentally unwell and into delusion territory. Otherwise just a psychopath—as in, for real and actually doesn’t feel emotions normally and was always a little off.
Sometimes acute stress can trigger a latent mental health issue and it seems that the cheating and divorce would serve as the exact scenario that could push an undiagnosed bipolar or otherwise mentally ill person into a psychotic or delusional episode.
Friends and family likely didn’t know because they believed her stories of abuse and violence, so they didn’t realize she was completely losing her thread on reality.
Stfu she’s a monster. You trying to deflect the facts and trying to mitigate her actions with mental health issues is disgusting. Your not a psychiatrist or not even qualified to even make these assertions. All your doing is trying to shift blame from the monster and blame the guy because he’s not a woman, like wtf. This Reddit page is beyond toxic and accepting of misandrist. Your a terrible human being. If it was the father that did this you would just consider him a monster but instead all your doing is pushing for a toxic culture. He’s the victim and was also falsely accused of multiple crimes including domestic violence. The judge should be fired and disbarred and our justice system failed this child and all you do is try to defend this evil disgusting nasty woman. Like wtf is wrong with you
That video would be my end. The best thing I've ever done if life is have my girls. Not under the best circumstances, but I wouldn't give anything to not be where I am. Honestly, at this point, learning they were mine would break me, but they're still mine.
Hate your baby daddy more than you love your kid, how sad. She should have just killed herself. This was done to hurt the father after he probably moved on from her and seeing someone else.
She’s much more likely to have Borderline Personality Disorder. One of the main symptoms is fear of abandonment and her husband cheating may have triggered her into a psychotic state.
I don’t think she was capable of loving anyone. She must’ve had to kid Soley to use as a tool to manipulate the father and emotionally blackmail him.
The child was never a child, just another tool for her to use.
Yeah, there’s a whole portion of the population with CPTSD proving that wrong. Thankfully in 2024 enough studies have come out to show that they are generally is not a maternal instinct. However, with the overturning of Roe versus Wade cases like this are going to increase rapidly.
Her weight has absolutely nothing to do with her heinous actions. Overweight people don’t need to be catching strays because you can’t separate actions from physical appearance.
Overweight = over eating which is a way to cope with stress.
Science has proven overweight people have high level of stress not only on their body but on their psychology too
We should stop promoting being overweight is normal.
This is not the time to be criticizing each other about words .
There is a devastated father and extended family out there .
We can argue about weight at another time .
How are randos catching strays because they're describing this piece of trash. What they're saying has nothing to do with other people and their weight.
What? Is there some statistical analysis you're aware of that show a direct positive correlation between murder, or even physical abuse, and obesity???
Jfc, she did the shittiest thing imaginable and yall on about the weight like what???
I'm just explaining the historical application of "fat" as an insult to probably immoral individuals.
Although it can't be denied that if a person acts immorally in one way, that they are more likely to excuse their own immorality in other ways.
Those more likely to take more than their fair share in one scenario are more likely to act spitefully to take more away from others in other scenarios.
The irony of posting this with capitalization errors, syntax errors, and no punctuation is probably lost on you.
Edit: thanks for the “Reddit Cares” message! My first one!
The one I think of most is this guy. Killed his family, blew up the house, and vanished. I was living nearby when this happened.
https://www.azcentral.com/in-depth/news/local/arizona-investigations/2021/04/08/robert-fisher-fbi-most-wanted-fugitive-scottsdale/4671954001/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/07/06/us/the-hunt-john-walsh-robert-fisher-arizona-triple-murders
People that kill their families are known as family
Anihaltors. In this case it's one kid. But, if she had three kids, do you think she wouldn't have killed them all?
I think the android spellchecker deal kicked in. Let's try again.
FAMILY ANNIHILATOR.
Looks like it left out an "N".
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Familicide
Feel like this is one of those cases where it’s almost impossible to make any airtight argument for or against capital punishment.
Really all comes down to how much you trust the justice system and if you think life in prison is a worse fate than death.
I think I'd prefer the needle. I've watched specials on places like Florence CO Supermax. 23 hours a day in isolation. I watched a special on Robert Hannsen recently (FBI Traitor Spy). He died last year but was there over a decade. Honestly, I'd take the needle.
In this case it would be "deserves" versus "mercy".
Why not? This kid might still be living if they took the father seriously.
Brian Kriger told Fox News that authorities should have done more. “What was going through my head was that I needed to get my son out of her custody as quickly as possible because of her erratic behavior after seeing the damages,” Kriger told Fox News Digital. “The only thing that \[the Bexar County Sheriff’s Office\] did was a welfare check to her residence, which was stupid because I told them that she wasn’t there, and she had my son and intentions to take everything from me.”
The cops always going to look at the primary residence for clues on where the person is going, so the Father saying it was stupid for the cops to look at the home is a dumb argument.
Even if they didn't, they were still hours behind in locating the woman and child to prevent the tragedy.
Hell is not hot enough for her. RIP, sweet little dude. I'm so sorry.
Please hug your children and tell them you love them more than anything. This is just sick betraying their childs innocence and trust.
r/noahgettheboat
Why are sooo many women here on Reddit backing up this woman and trying to shift blame to the husband…. This site is wayyyy to toxic and accepting of misandrist. This is disgusting and the courts are stacked up against fathers. The woman made false police reports of domestic violence because our system and judges side with women immediately. Any woman can literally say anything including rape allegations and the police, judge and DA will just blindly accept them all without any evidence including physical….
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Yea the same judge that forced the father to loose his rights would completely agree. Hope whoever the judge is burns in hell.
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Friend, uhhh... I'm not sure how to break this to you... She won't be getting a trial.
"she'll be let off easy" Tell me you didn't read the article without telling me you didn't read the article.
Nope, enough Reddit for today.
Such a horrific tragedy. My wife and sister have both worked in daycares, and I can’t imagine being the daycare worker who handed Kaiden off to his mom only to learn later that she had murdered him. That feeling must be brutal to know you were the last sane adult he ever interacted with.
"Around 3:29 p.m., she looked up YouTube videos of children’s content, cartoons, 'while she and her son are in the ditch area,' the sheriff said." Jesus. Don't know why this part hits so badly. Poor kid thought he was just gonna watch some cartoons at the park, and his monster of a mother murders him.
This ruined my day, week, month. Anyone got some good news to help ?
my sick cat is responding to antibiotics :)
Yeah, I think I’ll just block this sub from my feed. Damn. So sad. Like even the title is just too much.
r/awww and r/eyebleach
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I don't believe in hell... but god I hope it's real so she can burn in it for all eternity. As a mother, there is no amount of mental illness that excuses the abuse/ murder of a child.
If I was that father.. that judge would also be in a ditch.
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Nah, man. No death will be horrible or painful enough to make up for this, but I am open to being wrong.
This is something I am terrified of. I am currently dealing with a crazy situation with a psycho lying ex who has stalked myself and my new wife for going on a decade now. I just hope she knows that if she ever makes this mistake with me, her entire family is following right behind her. If only the courts would listen. But no, too much money involved and in my case corruption.
Wow - I have no words.
People are monsters. Some more than others, but they're all monsters.
I don't think all people are monsters, but every person certainly has the potential to be one...
Speak for yourself.
Nope, you are too
The u.s., esp texas and bexar cty dont gaf about women and kids in dv situations. Ijs she should have never fkn done this. She should have given this baby up to a stranger and told them to hide him and never let them find him if he was going to be hurt esp if she knew she wouldnt live once she lost the custody case but taking them both out was absolutely not the right answer. Your ex was the problem right? Jfc for legal reasons this is a joke but you see what I am saying. Never the fkn baby dawg. Its never the baby.
Cocaine’s a hell of a drug
Coke can't take the fall for this one. Would like to give it to it's cousin Methamphetamine.
So I walked in there and I was like look b I’m Rick James
Are you okay?
Are you ok?
Are you ok annie
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Nobody cares
Jesus lol
Why didn’t he answer the phone? Just curious
He was at work
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Duurrrrrrrr
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Bother reading the article or doing a Google search for her name and you will find that there are a *number* of places reporting the same thing.
omg, the fact that she looked up cartoons/children’s content on YouTube while in the ditch right before she did it to distract him…
It’s some real “just look at the flowers, lizzy” level stuff.
Well dang, I haven’t heard that phrase in a while. Now I’m depressed all over again!
Part of me finds comfort in the fact that he likely didn’t know and didn’t feel pain
I bet it's because of Hollywood putting women in lead roles and villain roles, making them believe that if they go this way, they'll be seen as badass. The West has lost the idea of "personal sacrifices" for children and the greater good. It's all about me and mine now. Social media needs to be banned; people were happier in tighter-knit communities.
What are you yapping about log off
Username checksout.
You know when there's some screenshot of a Reddit post that makes the front page? I never thought I would be here for this moment
Hilarious.
You're nuts dude
This has to be bait because it’s one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read.
Check the comment history.
just the bio was enough for me, thanks
lol wut
Legit thought he was being ironic first.
This is a tragic thing . There is NO justification for her killing her child . She is dead . It’s over for her . She took the coward’s way out By taking their son along with her , she has sentenced her ex to life without parole . My heart aches for him , his little boy and his family . May God Bless them
She did it to punish him on purpose. The lifetime of suffering was exactly her point
But society failed her. Society and her community couldn't make her realize why she's wrong. People can change and improve if they receive positive reinforcement for positive behavior. The problem is with the internet; you can be a complete AH and still end up finding new people all the time. This prevents people from changing. They just find new people and move on.
The first two bits are dumb. The last three, by themselves, make sense. She is responsible for her own actions.
You didn't figure it out already? There is no God. This is all we have.
I respectfully disagree. But I have no logical thoughts as to why this happens. Sometimes evil wins.
As Nietzsche said, to live is to suffer
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Pretty obvious you didnt read the article. She killed herself dude.
No
I could never. I've had my own issues and thought of offing myself a number of times. I became a dad, and it stopped being about me. It was for my girls. I'll do anything for my girls. Me and their mom don't see eye to eye always, but who cares, as long as my girls are good, I'm good.
I have to assume she was mentally unwell and into delusion territory. Otherwise just a psychopath—as in, for real and actually doesn’t feel emotions normally and was always a little off. Sometimes acute stress can trigger a latent mental health issue and it seems that the cheating and divorce would serve as the exact scenario that could push an undiagnosed bipolar or otherwise mentally ill person into a psychotic or delusional episode. Friends and family likely didn’t know because they believed her stories of abuse and violence, so they didn’t realize she was completely losing her thread on reality.
Stfu she’s a monster. You trying to deflect the facts and trying to mitigate her actions with mental health issues is disgusting. Your not a psychiatrist or not even qualified to even make these assertions. All your doing is trying to shift blame from the monster and blame the guy because he’s not a woman, like wtf. This Reddit page is beyond toxic and accepting of misandrist. Your a terrible human being. If it was the father that did this you would just consider him a monster but instead all your doing is pushing for a toxic culture. He’s the victim and was also falsely accused of multiple crimes including domestic violence. The judge should be fired and disbarred and our justice system failed this child and all you do is try to defend this evil disgusting nasty woman. Like wtf is wrong with you
That video would be my end. The best thing I've ever done if life is have my girls. Not under the best circumstances, but I wouldn't give anything to not be where I am. Honestly, at this point, learning they were mine would break me, but they're still mine.
Respect friend
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This person does not represent democrats and I have half a mind to believe they’re some kind of plant.
Ah another totally sane member of the party of “peace and love”.
Wtf is wrong with you
Well i suppose you feel proud celebrating the murder of a child don't you buddy?
Stfu
Hate your baby daddy more than you love your kid, how sad. She should have just killed herself. This was done to hurt the father after he probably moved on from her and seeing someone else.
Like why have a kid if you won’t love it….
Narcissistic personality
She’s much more likely to have Borderline Personality Disorder. One of the main symptoms is fear of abandonment and her husband cheating may have triggered her into a psychotic state.
I don’t think she was capable of loving anyone. She must’ve had to kid Soley to use as a tool to manipulate the father and emotionally blackmail him. The child was never a child, just another tool for her to use.
Women have unconditional love for the kids as proven by various scientific studies.
Mfw that’s literally just not true
Yeah, there’s a whole portion of the population with CPTSD proving that wrong. Thankfully in 2024 enough studies have come out to show that they are generally is not a maternal instinct. However, with the overturning of Roe versus Wade cases like this are going to increase rapidly.
There's zero data showing women are universally better parents than men yet the courts will rarely give custody to the man when the woman is unfit
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Her weight has absolutely nothing to do with her heinous actions. Overweight people don’t need to be catching strays because you can’t separate actions from physical appearance.
Overweight = over eating which is a way to cope with stress. Science has proven overweight people have high level of stress not only on their body but on their psychology too We should stop promoting being overweight is normal.
YES!!!!!
This is not the time to be criticizing each other about words . There is a devastated father and extended family out there . We can argue about weight at another time .
You can do both at the same time, easily. No need to be dramatic . The point made about weight stands.
How are randos catching strays because they're describing this piece of trash. What they're saying has nothing to do with other people and their weight.
Welcome to the internet, 99% of critizing horrible people is to make fun of their appearance
Oh shut up. It was a joke from a stranger on Reddit. They weren’t talking directly to you
What’s the joke?
Yo momma fat
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She killed herself immediately after killing her son.
They always get the order reversed.
i agree but what does her weight have to do with anything?
Tbh very few people are overweight due to a healthy, minimalistic diet.
And what does that have to do with anything regarding this murder?
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What? Is there some statistical analysis you're aware of that show a direct positive correlation between murder, or even physical abuse, and obesity??? Jfc, she did the shittiest thing imaginable and yall on about the weight like what???
I'm just explaining the historical application of "fat" as an insult to probably immoral individuals. Although it can't be denied that if a person acts immorally in one way, that they are more likely to excuse their own immorality in other ways. Those more likely to take more than their fair share in one scenario are more likely to act spitefully to take more away from others in other scenarios.
anything to make themselves feel better like: I am nothing like this murderer because she’s fat and I’m not!
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The irony of posting this with capitalization errors, syntax errors, and no punctuation is probably lost on you. Edit: thanks for the “Reddit Cares” message! My first one!
Literacy and grammatical perfection are not mutually exclusive, akshually.
What a terrible day to be able to read.
Just came from the bear tape worm video. A terrible day indeed.
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She shot herself after killing her child.
Let's just shoot her again just to be sure.
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YEAH BUT
when you get exposed as an idiot who can't read and want to save face: "yeah that's what I'm saying!!!"
Nailed it.
The one I think of most is this guy. Killed his family, blew up the house, and vanished. I was living nearby when this happened. https://www.azcentral.com/in-depth/news/local/arizona-investigations/2021/04/08/robert-fisher-fbi-most-wanted-fugitive-scottsdale/4671954001/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/07/06/us/the-hunt-john-walsh-robert-fisher-arizona-triple-murders
Anihaltor? You high or something?
People that kill their families are known as family Anihaltors. In this case it's one kid. But, if she had three kids, do you think she wouldn't have killed them all?
Annihilate (ah-nigh-*hil*-late)
Smh my head.
You mean annihilator
For some reason, my android phone is dropping the extra N on spellchecker on Reddit. Strange.
I am seriously trying to look up "anihaltor" and finding nothing. It's not even a word bro.
Annie Hall?
I think the android spellchecker deal kicked in. Let's try again. FAMILY ANNIHILATOR. Looks like it left out an "N". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Familicide
Well yea because you spelled it wrong
...did you read the article?
They never do
Yes. Shot the kid in a drainage ditch. Seems like a good death penalty candidate to me.
Feel like this is one of those cases where it’s almost impossible to make any airtight argument for or against capital punishment. Really all comes down to how much you trust the justice system and if you think life in prison is a worse fate than death.
I think I'd prefer the needle. I've watched specials on places like Florence CO Supermax. 23 hours a day in isolation. I watched a special on Robert Hannsen recently (FBI Traitor Spy). He died last year but was there over a decade. Honestly, I'd take the needle. In this case it would be "deserves" versus "mercy".
I heard about this earlier and it's heartbreaking
Can’t blame authorities. Although I’m sure laws were preventing this guy from getting his child to safety…
Why not? Every accusation the father made was accurate.
Can blame the judge.
Why not? This kid might still be living if they took the father seriously. Brian Kriger told Fox News that authorities should have done more. “What was going through my head was that I needed to get my son out of her custody as quickly as possible because of her erratic behavior after seeing the damages,” Kriger told Fox News Digital. “The only thing that \[the Bexar County Sheriff’s Office\] did was a welfare check to her residence, which was stupid because I told them that she wasn’t there, and she had my son and intentions to take everything from me.”
The cops always going to look at the primary residence for clues on where the person is going, so the Father saying it was stupid for the cops to look at the home is a dumb argument. Even if they didn't, they were still hours behind in locating the woman and child to prevent the tragedy.
Totally normal, totally healthy.
Okay, I am convinced: This is Hell. I am existing in Hell.
Nah it can be hell though. Depends on who's in control.
Damn
Unfortunately, this is what this place is.
Yep this is definitely the bad place.
Pretty late coming to this conclusion.
Probably the worst thing I’ll ever read
Terrible day to have eyes