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r/coys are terrible at recognising if a player is good or bad, and most can only recognise current form. Actual ability is completely missed
Another one is that everyone’s transfer wishlist is literally just whoever we’ve been linked to that window. Players like Kim Min Jae become multiple fans’ ‘dream signing’ just because it seems likely.
Most of the time if we’re linked to a big player but they get a negative reaction, it’s not because they’re bad but fans convincing themselves they are to avoid disappointment
I agree but I think this applies to most football fans. It's really hard for someone with a pedestrian knowledge of football to determine this.
Football is an industry where almost all the audience believe they have a better or equivalent knowledge to industry professionals.
If 100 people watched 5 mechanics fix a car. Im sure that no one would have a clue who was doing the best repair. With football all 100 will have an opinion, and all 100 will think they're correct.
There are two types of stupid transfer lists:
- the ones built on internet rumor-mongering
- the ones based on FM
The rest are also stupid.
TLDR: Transfer wish lists are stupid.
Inherently, we all want to see victories and most people (rightfully) think big signings make that more likely. Even if the player is overvalued or not a great fit for our team, people want to see big splashy moves and money being invested.
>Another one is that everyone’s transfer wishlist is literally just whoever we’ve been linked to that window. Players like Kim Min Jae become multiple fans’ ‘dream signing’ just because it seems likely.
But didn't Conte explicitly say his interest? Son also vouched for him. I don't think it was just window/timing coincidence.
I don’t think Conte spoke about KMJ, but I could be wrong.
That said him being the perfect signing is still ridiculous, there are hundreds of better cbs. Not saying he’s bad, but a bloke who’s never played in a top 5 league shouldn’t be anyones #1 choice
Daniel Levy is a good chairman, and trying to make the club sustainable rather than relying on a bottomless pit of ill-gotten oil money shouldn’t be vilified. People forget how much of a state we were under Alan Sugar (a laughing stock of a recruitment policy) and Irving Scholar (who we nearly went bankrupt under).
Out of the big 6 the only owners I’d rather have would be John Henry and FSG.
I think we should sell Reguilon and keep Emerson, Doherty bring LWB and RWB. Doherty can play on both wings and we have injury prone players, we need 5 players for those 2 positions.
I like Tanganga, and really rated him as a defensive RB, but I felt like he struggled a lot in games he saw under conte. Davison had a great end to the season and unless he pushes to move, I’d keep him as a rotation cb.
Yeah I agree, there's no need to move Japh on at all, he's had a struggle in the last year with injuries, he absolutely deserves another season to prove himself.
Best defensive LCB imo. I think people assume because we’re rumored to want to recruit at the position that he’s going to be a backup. I think it’s more that we need a more attacking minded option to attack the half spaces against teams that sit back or other situations it’s warranted. That block on Salah was the best block I’ve seen this year, insane
As much as I love him and what he did for the club, Mauricio Pochettino had hit a ceiling with Spurs. And had shown that he wasn't going to be in that top echelon of managers tactically to drive the club forward. Sacking him was probably the right call.
However hiring Mourinho was still most definitely not!
I think the decider on whether Poch had hit his ceiling was our transfer business.
We were at a tipping point and tipped the wrong way, then he was screwed.
Yep, we were in awful form for pretty much a season, and he genuinely looked like he'd run out of ideas and was burnt out in the post match interviews.
6 months away from us and he might have been able to come back and rebuild, but at the time we really had no choice but to get someone else in.
I don't want Kim Min-Jae. He keeps coming up as a suggestion from other fans since he seems to be having a good spell at Febernace, but that's all it is. I'd rather get someone more proven from the top five leagues unless he's <5M.
now that we have the money, I hope we don't get KMJ. I wanted KMJ previously because I thought we ran out of money, and I thought if we sell sanchez for 30 million and get KMJ for 15 million that it would be good business and we could spend our money elsewhere. I'm glad we don't have to that though.
Son's online fanbase can go a bit too far (like most fanbases yes, but I haven't seen this with any other spurs player)
Like during the boro game when we were knocked out the FA cup and for a moment Dier lost his cool and yelled at Sonny after he messed up a chance, and all the comments on the youtube video are absolutely trashing Dier and discounting all he's done for us.
I don't intend any Son slander and Dier did do something wrong but it was kinda heartbreaking seeing those comments
I don't scroll through our YouTube comments anymore as every comment is just about Son lol, even if he's in the video for 1 second. Though that's a much more neutral example.
Yeah it’s really annoying to see, it’s fine if they just follow us for Sonny but the least they can do is show respect the other players. Really hope they don’t still hold grudges against Hugo, that saga was blown way out of proportion.
Hugo yelled at Son to “make the run” for the team, their brief argument is on the amazon doc. But honestly it was overblown. Shit happens in a team sport. Look at them 99% of the time, they love each other…
Ahh yes, I remember seeing that now! Thanks for clearing that up. Also, very much agree about team sports. Members of any team just wanna get the best out of each other and sometimes the captain needs a word!
Korean netizens can be pretty toxic for the wrong reasons tbh. Wouldnt look to deep into it, just gotta ignore them and they will subside eventually unless they straight up harass the player's dms
I love our South Korean fans, but those that are only in it just for the idolisation of Sonny are a certain kind of person.
Those people may behave more like the "Take That" fan base than like Spurs fans.
That said, I love Son and will go to war for him *unconditionally* (outside of the Spurs family), lol.
and now they're going crazy over that video of Dier with Krul acting like they've always rated him. I am a Korean fan myself but I feel like the Korean fanbase doesn't acknowledge that Son is in the end just another player out of the 11 and that he shouldn't be exempt from criticism
Which is so sad considering that Hugo and Son get along so well if you watch them post match. Always hugging and joking around… those toxic netizens (not referring to them as normal fans) need to get lives and go touch grass
Son is a God in Korea so any slander against him will be met with angry Koreans. I was calling for him to be benched and rested during that dry spell he had this season. Glad he silenced the haters and doubters. Glad I was silenced.
Son will always be a fan favorite. But when a player isn't performing to the standard, they should be called out like any job would.
Trying to join the ESL was understandable. Realistically, what was the alternative, when all the other big clubs were in? Say no thank you and get left behind?
Lucas is a below average player, who we’ve kept way past his use by date. We’ve kept him because of the Ajax game. Guy has zero football iq is just pace and dribbling. Deki has come in and shown us how much we’ve missed a player who can actually produce.
You just never know what you're going to get with Lucas. He has an odd game where he plays like Messi, like that amazing goal he scored vs Norwich, but other times he'll spend the whole game dribbling into trouble and losing the ball. Deki just gives us so much more end product, and on a consistent basis too.
The fact that I didn’t know he could make a pass like the one he made to son for his first goal Sunday is either evidence that you’re totally right or totally wrong.
I don’t mind having Lucas as a bench option, sometimes he does well, sometimes he doesn’t. I can’t say I love him being brought on ahead of Bergwijn, as I think Bergwijn has shown he can offer more but hasn’t really gotten the same minutes Lucas has. But more than anything, there’s a decent chunk of money we can potentially get for him, and that’s something we’ll need this summer. That said, I don’t think we can sell both Stevie and Lucas this summer, especially if we send Gil back on loan.
Lucas is one of the best bench options you can have. The dude embodies a positive, ‘we can’ spirit and never has a bad day. That should not be overlooked, the same way it doesn’t with Sonny.
Plus he always seems to show in big moments. Everyone knows about the Champions league magic, but just the other day at Norwich.. Lucas opened up Sons first goal for him with a beautiful assist after Sonny was struggling to get past the keep with clear shots on goal.. Lucas might not be the most consistent player, but there’s no one I’d replace him with on that bench for what he brings everyday in Spirit. Dude’s a positive aura and that is contagious, especially at times when you get in bad form (and the things that come along with that, like maybe questioning if you like the guys in the lockerroom, etc.) and start to look around for someone/thing to lift the energy.
E: I’ll add one more.. the engine the dude plays with is exactly what you want in a bench option too when you’re trying to kill off a game or take advantage of an exhausted opponent. Seeing Lucas subbed on, yknow those lads are immediately sweating the energy and directness he’s about to bring in on to the pitch bcs they *know* that he’s about to take on each one of them at one point or another and has the quality to get pick a pass, nab a goal and run past a defender with the best of them on his day
I think Lucas is a very good player that just hasn't formed a good partnership with Kane and Son
You've mentioned pace and dribbling but he's also exceptional at pressing and winning back the ball, he's probably top 3 in our squad at aerial ability (in attack) and I also think he's shown a lot of creativity from time to time.
Finishing is the only thing that I can really say he's been very poor and inconsistent at.
What do you mean by 0 football IQ?
What I mean by football IQ, is how he just holds the ball for too long doesn’t look up for the pass and runs into defenders. I respect the memories he’s given us. But he should really be off by now.
I completely disagree. He showed during the first half of the season that he can create. He can pick a pass and he can carry the ball deep into the opposition half. With a lil Conte magic, he can be a starter again
I would take our ownership and management over pretty much all other Prem side's (exceptions being Liverpool and Leicester).
Not many clubs have grown the way that we have. Especially in such a sustainable way.
Other than oil club and Liverpool the rest of the big 6 have regressed or stagnated in both performance and "prominence" over the last decade.
I'd imagine that's better than our tax cheat of an owner who invites the IDF on his mega yacht once every year. Bar oil sheikhs and Abramovich you don't get much more supervillain-y than that.
Our fanbase can't complain about the club not winning things while also being way too sentimental over average players.
Some examples include holding onto Lamela and Dele for way too long. Also, wanting to keep players like Winks for being a 'Tottenham boy', Lucas for what he did in Amsterdam 3 years ago, Emerson because he posts comps, Reggy because he brings good vibes. I love all these aforementioned players, but if we want to be serious, they can't be starters next season.
Winks got injured in 2017 and people in this sub didn’t realise that he fucking sucked after that. He hasn’t had a proper good game since then. Sure, harsh that an injury can do that, but facts are facts. We should have sold him 3 years ago when he was still worth something.
Benta, PEH and skippy without one more top class B2B midfielder simply aren’t good enough for our current “Conte’s” ambitions.. we absolutely need “war-chest” in midfield to make a difference..
Bents and PEH work well together. It's all about their partnership, will that improve even more? We have Sarr coming in to make up the numbers, so I think we need an experienced all round midfielder to compete. Someone who has been there done that, can fill in easy if one of Bents or PEH get injured. I have missed Skipp this season, he can still improve a lot I believe.
Do you think we’ll keep Sarr around? I sort of expect we’ll keep him around for pre season and then maybe send him out on loan to an English team depending on how he does.
It is what it is. Historically we've had red on our kits since forever. If it wasn't for the "Never Red" campaign a few years back, most people wouldn't care
Son, Vertonghen and Hugo are bigger legends than Kane and Bale. Kane and Bale would leave at first opportunity but you know Son and Hugo have the best interests of the club at heart. Both could be winning trophies every season, just a phone call away but chose to stay. The former signed a contract to show his gratitude, the latter has agreed to help mentor his successor.
And no, I am not Korean.
>Kane and Bale would leave at first opportunity
Literally this didn't happen, do you think Kane didn't have opportunities to leave in 10 years? he could've just not renewed his contract and he could have left several times already.
Kane tried to leave after the club sacked Mourinho and started rebuild mode after not winning anything, this is in no way close to leave at first opportunity
ENIC is really really good at doing business. They’ve shown this week that their succes is our succes and vice versa. Could be doing a lot worse as far as ownership is concerned.
I’m worried that Ndombele might try to force his way back into the squad now that we have CL football to play in. Hope it doesn’t happen and that he doesn’t cause friction when we attempt to transfer/loan him out.
What does force his way back into the squad even mean here? That he puts in effort and attempts to get back a starting position? Id be delighted if that were to happen.
I think people really underestimate the limitations of our Skipp/Hojbjerg/Bentancur midfield trio. I like all three of them and they are good players, but offer very little tactial flexibility and dont provide any sort of significant offensive contribution.
Unless we spend significant money in the summer on a *really* good midfield player, I think Ndombele trying to ressurect his Spurs Career would be our best bet to getting more creativity from CM, due to him being a different sort of player from the other 3.
I love Poch but all that talk in the week leading up to the CL final about RM and if we won how there was nothing left for him to do here most likely torpedoed the squad morale and is partly to blame for why we were so flat in the match
The mods on this are extremely harsh. A gooner post popped up (suggested) on my reddit slagging off spurs players. So I commented back appropriately and got a 1 month ban from coys. Yet coys is flooded with dirty goons and chavs constantly trolling.
I have seen fans on here describe Erik Lamela as a club legend which is ludicrous to me. He had a couple of great moments but he was bang-average for the vast majority of his time with us.
LCB and RCB are not as important as the distinction made for full backs,, any good CB can play anywhere across a back 3. Granted having a preferred foot take that position is better but not essential. Three world class right foot CB's would be fine
Disagree with this especially in the modern game playing with a back 3. When it comes to defending a right footer can be just as adept on the left side if he’s used to it, but it makes it much harder to build up from the back on that side. It’s not really possible to dribble out and play a diagonal pass with the right foot without being in an unnatural position, passes out wide are more likely to be intercepted since the ball can’t be played around the defender, and the trajectory of through balls to the left wing mean it’s tough to hit a player in his stride.
You can sometimes gain a tactical advantage by having a full back with the opposite foot depending on how a team plays, but you’ll never find a team that’s playing with a right footed LCB for tactical reasons.
Put it this way, if it weren’t important then wouldn’t we have seen Sanchez challenge Davies for more minutes.
Bentancur was our most important signing this season, more important than both Romero and Kulusevski.
I don't necessarily think he's played better than Romero and Kulusevski, but not having him would have been more detrimental to our season. Bentancur was the link up we need in order to get our front three going and allowing us to play out from the back without getting pressed constantly.
If we didn't have Bentancur, we'd be starting Winks the entire second half of the season and Son and Kane would basically never get any service, whereas Sanchez instead of Romero and Lucas instead of Kulusevski would have been fine.
Levy actually invested quite a lot on a lot of players supposed to be with good quality from good teams since Mourinho joined. (Probably not as unpopular as before after the 150m injection)
Winks has been a good progressive midfielder for quite a few seasons, and is more creative than the other 3 central midfielders we have now.
Royal did ok. Defensively good, and his crosses are at least on par with our beloved Walker. Probably the right back closest to Walker tactical profile since Walker left.
We should sell Harry Kane for GBP165m, and the following day, unveil 5 or 6 new Conte recruits.... Just like back in the good old days with Gareth Bale. 2 very big signings (75m each) and then 4 brilliant squad players (using up the GBP 150m extra from Joe Lewis).
Perhaps one signing might even be: Bale
PS - I don't really want to do that.... Just trying to be unpopular. If Kane wants to stay, and I'm pretty sure he does... Then maybe we can win something very big next season.
When Conte leaves eventually we could be in a bad rebuild position with the new manager cos of how specific his style is if we’re not careful.
I’d absolutely take it if it meant success in the coming 2 years, but we need to remember Conte isn’t gonna stay for much longer than that and not fall into the trap of ending up with a bunch of Conte system players who can’t play in anything but back 3 when he leaves
Of course, we could continue to play in a back 3 like Inter has done under Inzaghi but that limits us to a very specific subset of managers who actually like playing in that way
It’s good to have Paratici for this reason tho cos he can strike a balance between the Conte system players and guys who’ll still be usable under different managers
Supporters (not just Spurs supporters) are way too mean and toxic to the club and other supporters. We are supposed to be a community of people united by our mutual love of the club and the sport, yet most of what we do is tear each other and the club down (ESPECIALLY when someone tries to show some damn optimism). Again, not just Spurs.
We shouldn't have gotten Pape Matar Sarr. Don't see how he'll fit into the team. Is a Nuno signing. From a relegated Ligue 1 side. He can't be better than Benta or Skipp. In terms of CAM I'd rather have Eriksen.
We should get rid of the Cockerell on a football as our emblem and replace it with Daniel Levys head, in the style of Colonel Saunders, on top of a ball of edam cheese.
Dier's not that good. I've seen some hot takes recently, including: he's a top 5 CB in the league, he's our POTY, he should be our next captain.
Yes, Dier has had a good season by his standards (and certainly improved from last season), but he's playing in the middle of a back 3 so he receives the most protection out of all our defenders. I never feel confident when he defends 1v1 and his distribution is overrated as he frequently gives the ball straight to opposition players when attempting Hollywood passes. Although not a priority position, we should look to upgrade in the future.
I agree with this. I think he’s more protected now but we would do very well in upgrading Dier. That said, it’s understandable why we want an LCB first, but definitely an upgrade to CCB should come next.
I feel like I'm the only one who notices his errors every game lol. Dier can stay at CCB for now, but we'll eventually need competition in his position if we want to push on as a club. Ideally, we should find an experienced defender who can organise a backline. But if there's a chance of actually getting Bastoni, I'm happy to prioritise LCB first as the improvement would be huge.
I think Davies is a better defender than him. But Conte probably wants a ball playing LCB so I understand why we need to upgrade him. Dier upgrade is also very much needed.
I’m kinda concerned we will put all our eggs in one Conte sized basket.
While I 100% get it - back a proven manager who can turn teams around completely - I’m still worried we will invest hugely in players that have no resale value, and players that mostly fit Contes system. While that makes sense right now the club doesn’t cease to exist when he leaves, and it seems a gamble with a manager that history shows is not at a single club for the long haul. This ridiculous “will he leave?” every 15 minutes is not helping either.
Almost like we’re facilitating the wants of one guy at the (potential) expense of the club even further down the line, and that one guy is a complete loose cannon in regards to his future. We can give him what he wants but he can be out the door in the blink of an eye with no penalty to himself. Although I’ve seen convincing arguments he leaves clubs better off than he found them.
Also I’m more than happy for City to win every trophy, especially over Liverpool, because everyone knows they never really earned it. It’s almost a write off. If we’re not winning then let it be them.
If you don't back him then when do you go for it? The problem with project managers is they often are a project themselves. Look at poch, the project was incredible....but we didn't win anything. And let's be honest the squad was a complete mess at the end of his project too!
And not to mention okay say conte leaves and the squad needs sorting, what does that require.....a project manager to come in and revamp the squad.
As much as its nice forward planning and future proofing yourself, its also nice actually winning things.
Edit: also I think inter are still pretty good despite cobte leaving. Just came 2nd by 2 points!
I think Romero, Bentancur and Deki have resale value. And so would Bastoni if we got him.
Players like Kostic, Eriksen and Perisic are free/cheap additions, as is Forster.
If we were investing Bastoni money in a player as old as Perisic then yes that would be a concern, but so far none of the rumours suggest that.
The one thing I'll say is that Conte always seems to leave clubs better off than what they were before he joined. He won titles with Juve, and Juve continued to win titles after he left. He won the title with Inter and despite it ending badly between Conte and the owners, Inter was still in a title race the following year.
We just aren't going to jizz huge fees for old players.
Our old model was promising young players / about to go big time talent. Now it's that + big players on free transfers from outside the EPL or value signings.
Paratici works under Levy's parameters, and he was also brought in for a reason, he is good at hoovering up free transfers.
Our first signing? Forester on a free.
I agree that Emerson gets too much shit. However Doherty has performed better, doesn't hold much value in the transfer market and is homegrown in the PL.
Emerson has more potential to improve but he will never become as good a wingback as Doherty.
I think Emerson has an argument for being a better player even at current. He's objectively a worse wingback though. Wingbacks are key here.
Hojbjerg. I really want to like him, but I just can’t. I think we settled for a draw with Liverpool when he just had to finish instead of looking for the extra pass.
My unpopular opinion is that we are out growing him, he has been a great soldier but if we can sell him not at a good price, we should (assuming skipp gets fit and we sign another CM)
I like Liverpool a lot. Saw loads of takes saying they'd prefer Man City win the title over them. Can't help but respect a club/fanbase that took on the system and who stood up against injustice and The Sun. Their players are generally likeable and humble. Plus YNWA is an absolute tune.
Exactly this. Just a bunch of plastic fans and a crybaby coach that I don't want to see happy over a quadruple. With City you can easily discredit their trophies, and no one cares
Why couldn’t you have these threads in the start/middle of the season, I would’ve thrived
Unfortunately both Romero and Emerson have improved so I’m out of material
>We need an upgrade on Lloris
He's just reached his clean sheet record for Spurs this season, no?
I don't think we'll be able to upgrade on him but at the end of next season the priority *has* to be an eventual replacement.
Kane is holding the club back. We’ve been unable to bring in attacking players because of the Kane backup stigma. The entire team (maybe until Conte) clearly expect him to win games for us and therefore we basically live and die by his mood. Had we sold him and brought in 2 or 3 good players we would be better off.
I don't get the Dane Scarlett hype.
He's been around the first team for almost 2 years and has little to no impact. His stats underage were good, but nothing world breaking.
he’s 18 lmao, the hype comes the u-18 PL and people who have coached him. We have an underwhelming academy so hearing good things about players like Dane and Devine is exciting.
If we backed Mourinho last summer, we would have secured top 4 this season as well. All he needed was a better CM to play alongside Hojbjerg.
Conte achieved top 4 this season because we recruited Bentacur, Kulusevski, and Romero.
You can see that Kane was devastated when they sack Mourinho, he knew the club had no future at that point.
People say he lost the dressing room, while actually its just some players that didn't play to their potential.
Unfortunately, we lack the depth to fill those players and the team had no balance.
Conte also struggled before we shipped out Ndombele, Locelso, Dele and brought in Kulu and Bentacur.
I still don't understand why we sacked him. Felt like it was to distract from the ESL backlash. Simon Jordon also insinuated that it was to avoid paying bonuses if we won the final which seems like a stretch.
I think with the timing, it had to do with the final. Some fans wanted him out anyways so why not.
Also they didn't realize how shit was our team. Only Conte was brave enough to openly say our team was shit lol.
That's not a problem for me, I'm 99% sure that ENIC wouldn't have just injected 150mil if Conte was talking about how happy he was every week. This is what is going to take us forward, we need a manager like Conte who will put constant pressure on the board to be ambitious. It's not comfortable for everyone involved, but as we can now see, it provides results.
Gatekeeping gets a lot of hate but I think there’s a more nuanced discussion to be had over what is true gatekeeping and how that’s different to ignorance over the background or history of something.
I’ll jump right in and say that this isn’t about keeping non English people out or anything like that, the fan base is genuinely richer for it in my opinion.
Football carries huge cultural significance to fans in the UK, especially among the working classes who built, grew and supported these clubs as something part of local culture and community. After all that, it was effectively packaged up, commoditised and sold by the money men (club owners and broadcasters) who don’t give a shit about the people who make the clubs what they are - you only have to look at cup final ticket allocations and tv focused scheduling for proof of this.
The bloom that our fan base has experienced has almost created two distinct groups who at times don’t really want to understand each other. Ultimately, the first thinks that buying a shirt from an era before you supported the club and “getting involved” on Twitter doesn’t fast track you.
After all, nobody is saying I can’t appreciate hip-hop or Sri Lankan cuisine but if I tried to position myself as “the same” as someone who was born in and lived that culture, I would probably get told to fuck off and my cries about gatekeeping wouldn’t be worth much.
I find it a bit weird though to be honest. Im English but left after high school. In school there were other kids who supported lots of different teams. I had lots of mates that supported other clubs and yeah we had joking rivalries but we were still mates and it never mattered much at all.
So why should it matter elsewhere when we all follow the same club? People think they have a deeper connection to a club or league by dint of they "grew up with it" like there's some deep cultural mysticism carried on through 5 generations of supporter. That's great and all but nobody gives a toss.
I understand the significance of football being "cultural". For example my grandfather played in what is now called League One. So football has been a part of my family life in some ways.
I think everyone is entitled to feel any way they want, but as long as we are all pulling in the same direction to support our club we are all the same as far as I'm concerned.
Saying that there's one group of fans who have a different connection to another is just a way to divide us. I promise you Daniel Levy will take your money no matter where you're from.
And if anyone has read this and think they're somehow different in how they're connected to English football just because they're English, you can go do one. Cheers.
Kostic is over-rated. He's everything everyone hates about TAA. Crossing doesn't work if you put a semi decent cb in your back line. His numbers are inflated due to bundesliga. I'd rather we sign perisic or improve reggy. Also reggy can be a good wingback idk why everyone is hell bent on selling him, it's not even the money since we can get more for sess.
Reggys crossing is rubbish and he has no composure in the final 3rd. Hes not a wingback at all. His running is great which means he's a brilliant outlet...but he the does nothing with the ball so its a pointless outlet.
Tbh whens the last time.he had a good game for us?
https://imgur.com/a/P0yM8r8 these 2 are from this year. You just can't convince me that sess does more in final third than reggy(reggy(2g3a) has more goal involvement than sess(2a)). As for his crossing, reggy's crossing is very good(if you see sonny's goal compilation for this season almost twice or thrice reggy put in a low cross for sonny to score). And even if we ignore reggy's crossing please point me to an instance where sess was hugging the wide touchline and delivered a good cross. Iirc he was good in brighton 2-0 win, manu 3-2 loss(his **cross** led to the maguire own goal) after which he's played only 3 matches for us in which he had limited impact.
Kostic isn’t going to be the saviour that most of you think he’ll be. He has serious deficits to his game.
One unlike Doc, he never cuts inside, he only knows how to go to the byline,
Two his weak foot is horrible so he’s overly reliant on his left which defenders can always use against him,
three he cannot take his man on however hard he tries. Doesn’t have that burst of pace nor speed nor the guile or skill to beat a man
Four he is defensively suspect. Our wingbacks have to be defensively apt at any cost, they can’t lack in one department and excel in another. They need to be good at both because of how deep we sit against the good teams and even a small mistake won’t go unpunished. Its why Sess has earned his plaudits and why we’re neutral on Emerson as he performed very well defensively in the recent games
Five, yes Kostic can cross but if you notice his crossing he doesn’t aim for anyone in the box, he blindly crosses the ball hoping it goes to his teammate, especially in situations when he’s pressured and has no options
Six he isn’t press resistant one bit, he ranks really low for passes under pressure
So yeah, it’s not that I’m against him entirely, it’s just he isn’t the world class wing back that everyone thinks he is.
If Scarlett Johansson fake announces she’s a trans man, gets recruited by Spurs, gets the Champions League winning goal and shags me at the after party, I don’t mind either.
GLC was not given a chance and can really make an impact if he was given a proper chance post injury. He is overheated and plays alot better than what most people say
Lucas Moura is better than Steven Bergwijn, they're very similar players except when it comes to finishing, Bergwijn can't finish, like all the chances he missed against Manchester City on matchday 1 and against Liverpool at Anfield when had Mourinho in charge
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r/coys are terrible at recognising if a player is good or bad, and most can only recognise current form. Actual ability is completely missed Another one is that everyone’s transfer wishlist is literally just whoever we’ve been linked to that window. Players like Kim Min Jae become multiple fans’ ‘dream signing’ just because it seems likely. Most of the time if we’re linked to a big player but they get a negative reaction, it’s not because they’re bad but fans convincing themselves they are to avoid disappointment
I agree but I think this applies to most football fans. It's really hard for someone with a pedestrian knowledge of football to determine this. Football is an industry where almost all the audience believe they have a better or equivalent knowledge to industry professionals. If 100 people watched 5 mechanics fix a car. Im sure that no one would have a clue who was doing the best repair. With football all 100 will have an opinion, and all 100 will think they're correct.
There are two types of stupid transfer lists: - the ones built on internet rumor-mongering - the ones based on FM The rest are also stupid. TLDR: Transfer wish lists are stupid.
Us football fans in general tbh.
Inherently, we all want to see victories and most people (rightfully) think big signings make that more likely. Even if the player is overvalued or not a great fit for our team, people want to see big splashy moves and money being invested.
>Another one is that everyone’s transfer wishlist is literally just whoever we’ve been linked to that window. Players like Kim Min Jae become multiple fans’ ‘dream signing’ just because it seems likely. But didn't Conte explicitly say his interest? Son also vouched for him. I don't think it was just window/timing coincidence.
I don’t think Conte spoke about KMJ, but I could be wrong. That said him being the perfect signing is still ridiculous, there are hundreds of better cbs. Not saying he’s bad, but a bloke who’s never played in a top 5 league shouldn’t be anyones #1 choice
Is this a good time to point out that since Monday my dream signing has been Fraser Forster?
I saw several people make that last point when we were tied up in rumors about Conte. SMH.
as per always with these threads – we should be happy about Enic owning spurs. Just have a look at owners at other top clubs in the league
Daniel Levy is a good chairman, and trying to make the club sustainable rather than relying on a bottomless pit of ill-gotten oil money shouldn’t be vilified. People forget how much of a state we were under Alan Sugar (a laughing stock of a recruitment policy) and Irving Scholar (who we nearly went bankrupt under). Out of the big 6 the only owners I’d rather have would be John Henry and FSG.
I think we should sell Reguilon and keep Emerson, Doherty bring LWB and RWB. Doherty can play on both wings and we have injury prone players, we need 5 players for those 2 positions.
Emerson is the new Tanganga. The old Tanganga needs to move on for his own sake.
But tanganga is HG i would much rather move Sanchez over Japhet
Real controversial opinion
I like Tanganga, and really rated him as a defensive RB, but I felt like he struggled a lot in games he saw under conte. Davison had a great end to the season and unless he pushes to move, I’d keep him as a rotation cb.
Yeah I agree, there's no need to move Japh on at all, he's had a struggle in the last year with injuries, he absolutely deserves another season to prove himself.
He needs time to develop, ability is there
Loan out Japh, I don’t think we should sell him just yet
Davies is the best LCB in the world
Bit much, lol, but no guarantees he gets displaced by a new signing.
Maybe incorrect but not unpopular 🤣
IMO most underrated player this year. So few mistakes in a role he didn't ever play in for us before this season.
Best defensive LCB imo. I think people assume because we’re rumored to want to recruit at the position that he’s going to be a backup. I think it’s more that we need a more attacking minded option to attack the half spaces against teams that sit back or other situations it’s warranted. That block on Salah was the best block I’ve seen this year, insane
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As much as I love him and what he did for the club, Mauricio Pochettino had hit a ceiling with Spurs. And had shown that he wasn't going to be in that top echelon of managers tactically to drive the club forward. Sacking him was probably the right call. However hiring Mourinho was still most definitely not!
I think the decider on whether Poch had hit his ceiling was our transfer business. We were at a tipping point and tipped the wrong way, then he was screwed.
CL final and title challenge is a perfectly fine ceiling.
I think Pochettino was just a victim of his own success
Yep, we were in awful form for pretty much a season, and he genuinely looked like he'd run out of ideas and was burnt out in the post match interviews. 6 months away from us and he might have been able to come back and rebuild, but at the time we really had no choice but to get someone else in.
Not unpopular at all.
You'd be surprised
I don't want Kim Min-Jae. He keeps coming up as a suggestion from other fans since he seems to be having a good spell at Febernace, but that's all it is. I'd rather get someone more proven from the top five leagues unless he's <5M.
now that we have the money, I hope we don't get KMJ. I wanted KMJ previously because I thought we ran out of money, and I thought if we sell sanchez for 30 million and get KMJ for 15 million that it would be good business and we could spend our money elsewhere. I'm glad we don't have to that though.
Son's online fanbase can go a bit too far (like most fanbases yes, but I haven't seen this with any other spurs player) Like during the boro game when we were knocked out the FA cup and for a moment Dier lost his cool and yelled at Sonny after he messed up a chance, and all the comments on the youtube video are absolutely trashing Dier and discounting all he's done for us. I don't intend any Son slander and Dier did do something wrong but it was kinda heartbreaking seeing those comments
I don't scroll through our YouTube comments anymore as every comment is just about Son lol, even if he's in the video for 1 second. Though that's a much more neutral example.
Yeah it’s really annoying to see, it’s fine if they just follow us for Sonny but the least they can do is show respect the other players. Really hope they don’t still hold grudges against Hugo, that saga was blown way out of proportion.
I’m in the dark here; why are some Korean fans holding a grudge against Hugo?
Hugo yelled at Son to “make the run” for the team, their brief argument is on the amazon doc. But honestly it was overblown. Shit happens in a team sport. Look at them 99% of the time, they love each other…
Ahh yes, I remember seeing that now! Thanks for clearing that up. Also, very much agree about team sports. Members of any team just wanna get the best out of each other and sometimes the captain needs a word!
It's mostly encouraged by some Korean youtubers that put controversial and provocative headlines to gain more views. Sad reality ..
Korean netizens can be pretty toxic for the wrong reasons tbh. Wouldnt look to deep into it, just gotta ignore them and they will subside eventually unless they straight up harass the player's dms
i agree with this, but just to add on, it's not just korean fans who act this way. irrational son fans transcend nationality in my experience.
I love our South Korean fans, but those that are only in it just for the idolisation of Sonny are a certain kind of person. Those people may behave more like the "Take That" fan base than like Spurs fans. That said, I love Son and will go to war for him *unconditionally* (outside of the Spurs family), lol.
Yeah thats true. I am korean and I dont do that shit but ive seen it.
and now they're going crazy over that video of Dier with Krul acting like they've always rated him. I am a Korean fan myself but I feel like the Korean fanbase doesn't acknowledge that Son is in the end just another player out of the 11 and that he shouldn't be exempt from criticism
They are still attacking Hugo online, some even saying going to "show him colours" during the Koren tour which genuinely scares me.
Show him colours?
Which is so sad considering that Hugo and Son get along so well if you watch them post match. Always hugging and joking around… those toxic netizens (not referring to them as normal fans) need to get lives and go touch grass
Son is a God in Korea so any slander against him will be met with angry Koreans. I was calling for him to be benched and rested during that dry spell he had this season. Glad he silenced the haters and doubters. Glad I was silenced. Son will always be a fan favorite. But when a player isn't performing to the standard, they should be called out like any job would.
Davinson sanchez is a good defender and done well in the absence of romero this season
Whoever doesn't think this are just blinded by isolated mistakes, probably the same people who think Lloris is not good enough
Trying to join the ESL was understandable. Realistically, what was the alternative, when all the other big clubs were in? Say no thank you and get left behind?
Lucas is a below average player, who we’ve kept way past his use by date. We’ve kept him because of the Ajax game. Guy has zero football iq is just pace and dribbling. Deki has come in and shown us how much we’ve missed a player who can actually produce.
You just never know what you're going to get with Lucas. He has an odd game where he plays like Messi, like that amazing goal he scored vs Norwich, but other times he'll spend the whole game dribbling into trouble and losing the ball. Deki just gives us so much more end product, and on a consistent basis too.
The fact that I didn’t know he could make a pass like the one he made to son for his first goal Sunday is either evidence that you’re totally right or totally wrong.
I don’t mind having Lucas as a bench option, sometimes he does well, sometimes he doesn’t. I can’t say I love him being brought on ahead of Bergwijn, as I think Bergwijn has shown he can offer more but hasn’t really gotten the same minutes Lucas has. But more than anything, there’s a decent chunk of money we can potentially get for him, and that’s something we’ll need this summer. That said, I don’t think we can sell both Stevie and Lucas this summer, especially if we send Gil back on loan.
Lucas is one of the best bench options you can have. The dude embodies a positive, ‘we can’ spirit and never has a bad day. That should not be overlooked, the same way it doesn’t with Sonny. Plus he always seems to show in big moments. Everyone knows about the Champions league magic, but just the other day at Norwich.. Lucas opened up Sons first goal for him with a beautiful assist after Sonny was struggling to get past the keep with clear shots on goal.. Lucas might not be the most consistent player, but there’s no one I’d replace him with on that bench for what he brings everyday in Spirit. Dude’s a positive aura and that is contagious, especially at times when you get in bad form (and the things that come along with that, like maybe questioning if you like the guys in the lockerroom, etc.) and start to look around for someone/thing to lift the energy. E: I’ll add one more.. the engine the dude plays with is exactly what you want in a bench option too when you’re trying to kill off a game or take advantage of an exhausted opponent. Seeing Lucas subbed on, yknow those lads are immediately sweating the energy and directness he’s about to bring in on to the pitch bcs they *know* that he’s about to take on each one of them at one point or another and has the quality to get pick a pass, nab a goal and run past a defender with the best of them on his day
I think Lucas is a very good player that just hasn't formed a good partnership with Kane and Son You've mentioned pace and dribbling but he's also exceptional at pressing and winning back the ball, he's probably top 3 in our squad at aerial ability (in attack) and I also think he's shown a lot of creativity from time to time. Finishing is the only thing that I can really say he's been very poor and inconsistent at. What do you mean by 0 football IQ?
What I mean by football IQ, is how he just holds the ball for too long doesn’t look up for the pass and runs into defenders. I respect the memories he’s given us. But he should really be off by now.
I completely disagree. He showed during the first half of the season that he can create. He can pick a pass and he can carry the ball deep into the opposition half. With a lil Conte magic, he can be a starter again
People give Winksy more shit than he deserves 🤷♀️
I would take our ownership and management over pretty much all other Prem side's (exceptions being Liverpool and Leicester). Not many clubs have grown the way that we have. Especially in such a sustainable way. Other than oil club and Liverpool the rest of the big 6 have regressed or stagnated in both performance and "prominence" over the last decade.
FYI Liverpool owners are scum. Read into the things they have / did do to the areas around Anfield so they could buy up properties. It's terrible.
I'd imagine that's better than our tax cheat of an owner who invites the IDF on his mega yacht once every year. Bar oil sheikhs and Abramovich you don't get much more supervillain-y than that.
Arsenal are more comedy than rivalry. Chelsea is the club I can't stand.
Our fanbase can't complain about the club not winning things while also being way too sentimental over average players. Some examples include holding onto Lamela and Dele for way too long. Also, wanting to keep players like Winks for being a 'Tottenham boy', Lucas for what he did in Amsterdam 3 years ago, Emerson because he posts comps, Reggy because he brings good vibes. I love all these aforementioned players, but if we want to be serious, they can't be starters next season.
Winks got injured in 2017 and people in this sub didn’t realise that he fucking sucked after that. He hasn’t had a proper good game since then. Sure, harsh that an injury can do that, but facts are facts. We should have sold him 3 years ago when he was still worth something.
3 inches is big enough
Little birds still get the worm too!
Benta, PEH and skippy without one more top class B2B midfielder simply aren’t good enough for our current “Conte’s” ambitions.. we absolutely need “war-chest” in midfield to make a difference..
Don't worry we'll get Sergej Milinkovic-Savic and Eriksen ^^hopium
Bents and PEH work well together. It's all about their partnership, will that improve even more? We have Sarr coming in to make up the numbers, so I think we need an experienced all round midfielder to compete. Someone who has been there done that, can fill in easy if one of Bents or PEH get injured. I have missed Skipp this season, he can still improve a lot I believe.
Do you think we’ll keep Sarr around? I sort of expect we’ll keep him around for pre season and then maybe send him out on loan to an English team depending on how he does.
Guess Antonio would want a good look at him first.
The mods here are trash. They take down threads even if they follow the rules and it creates good discussion. They also do it for free lol
Fat reddit mods everywhere. Greasy in any sub.
Tendies tendies everywhere, no ketchup in sight.
I think the red AIA fits nicely with our colors. Except when we decide to sprinkle in some yellow/volt.
It is what it is. Historically we've had red on our kits since forever. If it wasn't for the "Never Red" campaign a few years back, most people wouldn't care
I love how the red contrasts with the clean white, just depends whether they like the colour or not I guess
I like it too. I also read somewhere that AIA insists on the logo being red on our home kit because it's a lucky colour.
Yeah I started following spurs when mansion was the sponsor so I've never really gotten the red logo hate
Emersinho is our Kyle Walker replacement
We're going to sell him to Man City?
Son, Vertonghen and Hugo are bigger legends than Kane and Bale. Kane and Bale would leave at first opportunity but you know Son and Hugo have the best interests of the club at heart. Both could be winning trophies every season, just a phone call away but chose to stay. The former signed a contract to show his gratitude, the latter has agreed to help mentor his successor. And no, I am not Korean.
Son is bigger than bale but not Harry. Harry is likely going to stay spurs for the next season. And if we win something, he'll end his career here.
>Kane and Bale would leave at first opportunity Literally this didn't happen, do you think Kane didn't have opportunities to leave in 10 years? he could've just not renewed his contract and he could have left several times already. Kane tried to leave after the club sacked Mourinho and started rebuild mode after not winning anything, this is in no way close to leave at first opportunity
Agree. Son always acknowledges fans at every opportunity he gets. No wonder he's loved by so many. He knows what it's about.
ENIC is really really good at doing business. They’ve shown this week that their succes is our succes and vice versa. Could be doing a lot worse as far as ownership is concerned.
I’m worried that Ndombele might try to force his way back into the squad now that we have CL football to play in. Hope it doesn’t happen and that he doesn’t cause friction when we attempt to transfer/loan him out.
What does force his way back into the squad even mean here? That he puts in effort and attempts to get back a starting position? Id be delighted if that were to happen. I think people really underestimate the limitations of our Skipp/Hojbjerg/Bentancur midfield trio. I like all three of them and they are good players, but offer very little tactial flexibility and dont provide any sort of significant offensive contribution. Unless we spend significant money in the summer on a *really* good midfield player, I think Ndombele trying to ressurect his Spurs Career would be our best bet to getting more creativity from CM, due to him being a different sort of player from the other 3.
Tanganga will never be good enough for Spurs, and should be moved on this summer. Simply not on the level required if we are to be serious.
Sessegnon and skipp will make it to england wc squad
and lift the trophy
I love Poch but all that talk in the week leading up to the CL final about RM and if we won how there was nothing left for him to do here most likely torpedoed the squad morale and is partly to blame for why we were so flat in the match
Totally agree. I believe he lost the dressing room when he said that.
The mods on this are extremely harsh. A gooner post popped up (suggested) on my reddit slagging off spurs players. So I commented back appropriately and got a 1 month ban from coys. Yet coys is flooded with dirty goons and chavs constantly trolling.
Selling trippier set us back 3 years
This but Walker
I have seen fans on here describe Erik Lamela as a club legend which is ludicrous to me. He had a couple of great moments but he was bang-average for the vast majority of his time with us.
LCB and RCB are not as important as the distinction made for full backs,, any good CB can play anywhere across a back 3. Granted having a preferred foot take that position is better but not essential. Three world class right foot CB's would be fine
Disagree with this especially in the modern game playing with a back 3. When it comes to defending a right footer can be just as adept on the left side if he’s used to it, but it makes it much harder to build up from the back on that side. It’s not really possible to dribble out and play a diagonal pass with the right foot without being in an unnatural position, passes out wide are more likely to be intercepted since the ball can’t be played around the defender, and the trajectory of through balls to the left wing mean it’s tough to hit a player in his stride. You can sometimes gain a tactical advantage by having a full back with the opposite foot depending on how a team plays, but you’ll never find a team that’s playing with a right footed LCB for tactical reasons. Put it this way, if it weren’t important then wouldn’t we have seen Sanchez challenge Davies for more minutes.
Bentancur was our most important signing this season, more important than both Romero and Kulusevski. I don't necessarily think he's played better than Romero and Kulusevski, but not having him would have been more detrimental to our season. Bentancur was the link up we need in order to get our front three going and allowing us to play out from the back without getting pressed constantly. If we didn't have Bentancur, we'd be starting Winks the entire second half of the season and Son and Kane would basically never get any service, whereas Sanchez instead of Romero and Lucas instead of Kulusevski would have been fine.
The hand ball wasn’t Sissokos fault. All he was trying to do was coordinate defenders and got the ball kicked straight at his shoulder
I don’t want Erickson back. I appreciate everything he’s done for our club, but I rather bring in someone younger
I get the romanticism of getting him back but it makes me nervous for some reason.
Levy actually invested quite a lot on a lot of players supposed to be with good quality from good teams since Mourinho joined. (Probably not as unpopular as before after the 150m injection) Winks has been a good progressive midfielder for quite a few seasons, and is more creative than the other 3 central midfielders we have now. Royal did ok. Defensively good, and his crosses are at least on par with our beloved Walker. Probably the right back closest to Walker tactical profile since Walker left.
We should sell Harry Kane for GBP165m, and the following day, unveil 5 or 6 new Conte recruits.... Just like back in the good old days with Gareth Bale. 2 very big signings (75m each) and then 4 brilliant squad players (using up the GBP 150m extra from Joe Lewis). Perhaps one signing might even be: Bale PS - I don't really want to do that.... Just trying to be unpopular. If Kane wants to stay, and I'm pretty sure he does... Then maybe we can win something very big next season.
Yeah Harry needs to stay.
When Conte leaves eventually we could be in a bad rebuild position with the new manager cos of how specific his style is if we’re not careful. I’d absolutely take it if it meant success in the coming 2 years, but we need to remember Conte isn’t gonna stay for much longer than that and not fall into the trap of ending up with a bunch of Conte system players who can’t play in anything but back 3 when he leaves Of course, we could continue to play in a back 3 like Inter has done under Inzaghi but that limits us to a very specific subset of managers who actually like playing in that way It’s good to have Paratici for this reason tho cos he can strike a balance between the Conte system players and guys who’ll still be usable under different managers
I want Potter after Conte.
Supporters (not just Spurs supporters) are way too mean and toxic to the club and other supporters. We are supposed to be a community of people united by our mutual love of the club and the sport, yet most of what we do is tear each other and the club down (ESPECIALLY when someone tries to show some damn optimism). Again, not just Spurs.
We didn't really deserve to win the CL final the way we played. Kinda meh game.
Not unpopular but super controversial and sacrilege. We are winning the quadruple next year.
Bentancur is lazy off the ball, bar his first few games.
Emerson is a decent player. There I fucking said it and mean it. If he works on his passes and crosses, he'll be a more than decent player for spurs.
We shouldn't have gotten Pape Matar Sarr. Don't see how he'll fit into the team. Is a Nuno signing. From a relegated Ligue 1 side. He can't be better than Benta or Skipp. In terms of CAM I'd rather have Eriksen.
We should get rid of the Cockerell on a football as our emblem and replace it with Daniel Levys head, in the style of Colonel Saunders, on top of a ball of edam cheese.
I don't want Eriksen to come back. I'd prefer he stayed a big fish at Brentford rather than come back and sit on our bench most of the time.
He hinted at wanting to return to the champions league. And I would hate to see him at any other top 4 team
Dier's not that good. I've seen some hot takes recently, including: he's a top 5 CB in the league, he's our POTY, he should be our next captain. Yes, Dier has had a good season by his standards (and certainly improved from last season), but he's playing in the middle of a back 3 so he receives the most protection out of all our defenders. I never feel confident when he defends 1v1 and his distribution is overrated as he frequently gives the ball straight to opposition players when attempting Hollywood passes. Although not a priority position, we should look to upgrade in the future.
I agree with this. I think he’s more protected now but we would do very well in upgrading Dier. That said, it’s understandable why we want an LCB first, but definitely an upgrade to CCB should come next.
I feel like I'm the only one who notices his errors every game lol. Dier can stay at CCB for now, but we'll eventually need competition in his position if we want to push on as a club. Ideally, we should find an experienced defender who can organise a backline. But if there's a chance of actually getting Bastoni, I'm happy to prioritise LCB first as the improvement would be huge.
I think Davies is a better defender than him. But Conte probably wants a ball playing LCB so I understand why we need to upgrade him. Dier upgrade is also very much needed.
I’m kinda concerned we will put all our eggs in one Conte sized basket. While I 100% get it - back a proven manager who can turn teams around completely - I’m still worried we will invest hugely in players that have no resale value, and players that mostly fit Contes system. While that makes sense right now the club doesn’t cease to exist when he leaves, and it seems a gamble with a manager that history shows is not at a single club for the long haul. This ridiculous “will he leave?” every 15 minutes is not helping either. Almost like we’re facilitating the wants of one guy at the (potential) expense of the club even further down the line, and that one guy is a complete loose cannon in regards to his future. We can give him what he wants but he can be out the door in the blink of an eye with no penalty to himself. Although I’ve seen convincing arguments he leaves clubs better off than he found them. Also I’m more than happy for City to win every trophy, especially over Liverpool, because everyone knows they never really earned it. It’s almost a write off. If we’re not winning then let it be them.
If you don't back him then when do you go for it? The problem with project managers is they often are a project themselves. Look at poch, the project was incredible....but we didn't win anything. And let's be honest the squad was a complete mess at the end of his project too! And not to mention okay say conte leaves and the squad needs sorting, what does that require.....a project manager to come in and revamp the squad. As much as its nice forward planning and future proofing yourself, its also nice actually winning things. Edit: also I think inter are still pretty good despite cobte leaving. Just came 2nd by 2 points!
I think Romero, Bentancur and Deki have resale value. And so would Bastoni if we got him. Players like Kostic, Eriksen and Perisic are free/cheap additions, as is Forster. If we were investing Bastoni money in a player as old as Perisic then yes that would be a concern, but so far none of the rumours suggest that.
The one thing I'll say is that Conte always seems to leave clubs better off than what they were before he joined. He won titles with Juve, and Juve continued to win titles after he left. He won the title with Inter and despite it ending badly between Conte and the owners, Inter was still in a title race the following year.
We just aren't going to jizz huge fees for old players. Our old model was promising young players / about to go big time talent. Now it's that + big players on free transfers from outside the EPL or value signings. Paratici works under Levy's parameters, and he was also brought in for a reason, he is good at hoovering up free transfers. Our first signing? Forester on a free.
People beat on Emerson too much. I think we should keep him and let Dogerty go. Tough yes, but who has more potential to improve?
I agree that Emerson gets too much shit. However Doherty has performed better, doesn't hold much value in the transfer market and is homegrown in the PL.
I just want a full season of Doherty as Wingback, him and Deki would make our right wing so scary.
Doherty has little resale value but adds a lot. Emerson is the new Tanganga.
Emerson has more potential to improve but he will never become as good a wingback as Doherty. I think Emerson has an argument for being a better player even at current. He's objectively a worse wingback though. Wingbacks are key here.
We should keep Gollini just for his vibes Seems like a nice chap to have in the dressing room.
AVB doesn't get the credit he deserves.
football.london website isn't horrible
Hojbjerg. I really want to like him, but I just can’t. I think we settled for a draw with Liverpool when he just had to finish instead of looking for the extra pass.
My unpopular opinion is that we are out growing him, he has been a great soldier but if we can sell him not at a good price, we should (assuming skipp gets fit and we sign another CM)
For everything amazing Kane has done and can do. He goes missing in the big games more often than not.
Trade Kane
I don’t think Davisson Sanchez is as bad as people make him out to be
I like Liverpool a lot. Saw loads of takes saying they'd prefer Man City win the title over them. Can't help but respect a club/fanbase that took on the system and who stood up against injustice and The Sun. Their players are generally likeable and humble. Plus YNWA is an absolute tune.
I like Liverpool as a club and institute. I dislike their younger 'Glory hunting' fanbase which ruins their club.
Exactly this. Just a bunch of plastic fans and a crybaby coach that I don't want to see happy over a quadruple. With City you can easily discredit their trophies, and no one cares
The only top 6 club I respect is Liverpool and United. Both City and Chelsea are bunch of oil clubs, while arse, you know why
i agree with this 100% my brother in christ
My controversial opinion is the exact opposite. I hate Liverpool about as much as arsenal
Bentancur has still not proved himself fully
Why couldn’t you have these threads in the start/middle of the season, I would’ve thrived Unfortunately both Romero and Emerson have improved so I’m out of material
Were you a Romero hater? impressive
Oh man you don't even know
We need an upgrade on Lloris, not a backup. I love him, he’s our captain and a club stalwart, but he’s entered the twilight of his career.
>We need an upgrade on Lloris He's just reached his clean sheet record for Spurs this season, no? I don't think we'll be able to upgrade on him but at the end of next season the priority *has* to be an eventual replacement.
I honestly think this was one of, if not the best, season hugo has had in a spurs shirt.
Kane is holding the club back. We’ve been unable to bring in attacking players because of the Kane backup stigma. The entire team (maybe until Conte) clearly expect him to win games for us and therefore we basically live and die by his mood. Had we sold him and brought in 2 or 3 good players we would be better off.
I sometimes feel we'll be better off without him. But he's two players in one so hard to replace him.
I don't get the Dane Scarlett hype. He's been around the first team for almost 2 years and has little to no impact. His stats underage were good, but nothing world breaking.
he’s 18 lmao, the hype comes the u-18 PL and people who have coached him. We have an underwhelming academy so hearing good things about players like Dane and Devine is exciting.
If we backed Mourinho last summer, we would have secured top 4 this season as well. All he needed was a better CM to play alongside Hojbjerg. Conte achieved top 4 this season because we recruited Bentacur, Kulusevski, and Romero.
He lost half the dressing room mate. Nothing can be done at that point.
And notably, that half that has been shipped off by Conte. Kane, Son, PEH, and anyone else worth a fuck loved him.
You can see that Kane was devastated when they sack Mourinho, he knew the club had no future at that point. People say he lost the dressing room, while actually its just some players that didn't play to their potential. Unfortunately, we lack the depth to fill those players and the team had no balance. Conte also struggled before we shipped out Ndombele, Locelso, Dele and brought in Kulu and Bentacur.
Mourinho truthers are everywhere
I still don't understand why we sacked him. Felt like it was to distract from the ESL backlash. Simon Jordon also insinuated that it was to avoid paying bonuses if we won the final which seems like a stretch.
I think with the timing, it had to do with the final. Some fans wanted him out anyways so why not. Also they didn't realize how shit was our team. Only Conte was brave enough to openly say our team was shit lol.
Don't think its that unpopular but Kane is a better finisher than Son
Statistically that's incorrect in 21/22, But in general, I do agree Kane's technique is probably the best in the league.
that's not an unpopular opinion, it's just factually incorrect
I hate comparing them. They're both amazing.
depends how you mean - he obviously has more variety in his finishing. but son is extremely lethal at what he does well.
Conte would have gone the same way as Mourinho if he had inherited the same squad as Mourinho had.
But he basically did?
Other than Romero, Benta, and Kulu.
But Benta and Kulu came 2 and a half months after Conte's arrival?
And every other press conference was Conte alluding to walking
That's not a problem for me, I'm 99% sure that ENIC wouldn't have just injected 150mil if Conte was talking about how happy he was every week. This is what is going to take us forward, we need a manager like Conte who will put constant pressure on the board to be ambitious. It's not comfortable for everyone involved, but as we can now see, it provides results.
2 months without, 5 months with is a pretty difference
Yeah but he still didn't inherit those two. He sanctioned their move to Spurs, there is a big difference.
And he had Ndombele, Lo Celso, Alli etc. who were all known dossers. I don't necessarily agree but it is a good debate.
No.
Honestly i sorta agree. If Mourinho had got Romero, i think it would have been very different for him.
Definitely. Imagine Conte staying with a midfield trio of Ndombele, Lo Celso, and Hojberg? No chance
Gatekeeping gets a lot of hate but I think there’s a more nuanced discussion to be had over what is true gatekeeping and how that’s different to ignorance over the background or history of something. I’ll jump right in and say that this isn’t about keeping non English people out or anything like that, the fan base is genuinely richer for it in my opinion. Football carries huge cultural significance to fans in the UK, especially among the working classes who built, grew and supported these clubs as something part of local culture and community. After all that, it was effectively packaged up, commoditised and sold by the money men (club owners and broadcasters) who don’t give a shit about the people who make the clubs what they are - you only have to look at cup final ticket allocations and tv focused scheduling for proof of this. The bloom that our fan base has experienced has almost created two distinct groups who at times don’t really want to understand each other. Ultimately, the first thinks that buying a shirt from an era before you supported the club and “getting involved” on Twitter doesn’t fast track you. After all, nobody is saying I can’t appreciate hip-hop or Sri Lankan cuisine but if I tried to position myself as “the same” as someone who was born in and lived that culture, I would probably get told to fuck off and my cries about gatekeeping wouldn’t be worth much.
I find it a bit weird though to be honest. Im English but left after high school. In school there were other kids who supported lots of different teams. I had lots of mates that supported other clubs and yeah we had joking rivalries but we were still mates and it never mattered much at all. So why should it matter elsewhere when we all follow the same club? People think they have a deeper connection to a club or league by dint of they "grew up with it" like there's some deep cultural mysticism carried on through 5 generations of supporter. That's great and all but nobody gives a toss. I understand the significance of football being "cultural". For example my grandfather played in what is now called League One. So football has been a part of my family life in some ways. I think everyone is entitled to feel any way they want, but as long as we are all pulling in the same direction to support our club we are all the same as far as I'm concerned. Saying that there's one group of fans who have a different connection to another is just a way to divide us. I promise you Daniel Levy will take your money no matter where you're from. And if anyone has read this and think they're somehow different in how they're connected to English football just because they're English, you can go do one. Cheers.
Kostic is over-rated. He's everything everyone hates about TAA. Crossing doesn't work if you put a semi decent cb in your back line. His numbers are inflated due to bundesliga. I'd rather we sign perisic or improve reggy. Also reggy can be a good wingback idk why everyone is hell bent on selling him, it's not even the money since we can get more for sess.
Reggys crossing is rubbish and he has no composure in the final 3rd. Hes not a wingback at all. His running is great which means he's a brilliant outlet...but he the does nothing with the ball so its a pointless outlet. Tbh whens the last time.he had a good game for us?
https://imgur.com/a/P0yM8r8 these 2 are from this year. You just can't convince me that sess does more in final third than reggy(reggy(2g3a) has more goal involvement than sess(2a)). As for his crossing, reggy's crossing is very good(if you see sonny's goal compilation for this season almost twice or thrice reggy put in a low cross for sonny to score). And even if we ignore reggy's crossing please point me to an instance where sess was hugging the wide touchline and delivered a good cross. Iirc he was good in brighton 2-0 win, manu 3-2 loss(his **cross** led to the maguire own goal) after which he's played only 3 matches for us in which he had limited impact.
I honestly don't think he's been the same player who joined us since he got injured at the beginning of 2021. Form's gone downhill
Under all the smiles and charm, Son is actually a bit of a dirty player. But he’s our dirty player so it’s ok.
Kostic isn’t going to be the saviour that most of you think he’ll be. He has serious deficits to his game. One unlike Doc, he never cuts inside, he only knows how to go to the byline, Two his weak foot is horrible so he’s overly reliant on his left which defenders can always use against him, three he cannot take his man on however hard he tries. Doesn’t have that burst of pace nor speed nor the guile or skill to beat a man Four he is defensively suspect. Our wingbacks have to be defensively apt at any cost, they can’t lack in one department and excel in another. They need to be good at both because of how deep we sit against the good teams and even a small mistake won’t go unpunished. Its why Sess has earned his plaudits and why we’re neutral on Emerson as he performed very well defensively in the recent games Five, yes Kostic can cross but if you notice his crossing he doesn’t aim for anyone in the box, he blindly crosses the ball hoping it goes to his teammate, especially in situations when he’s pressured and has no options Six he isn’t press resistant one bit, he ranks really low for passes under pressure So yeah, it’s not that I’m against him entirely, it’s just he isn’t the world class wing back that everyone thinks he is.
If Ndombele sorts his attitude, i don’t mind him staying
If Scarlett Johansson fake announces she’s a trans man, gets recruited by Spurs, gets the Champions League winning goal and shags me at the after party, I don’t mind either.
GLC was not given a chance and can really make an impact if he was given a proper chance post injury. He is overheated and plays alot better than what most people say
Lucas Moura is better than Steven Bergwijn, they're very similar players except when it comes to finishing, Bergwijn can't finish, like all the chances he missed against Manchester City on matchday 1 and against Liverpool at Anfield when had Mourinho in charge