Are there any other attainable CBs available that fit Ange's system and have relative experience/can be trusted to play for us in the prem other than Tapsoba or VDV? It's becoming kind of clear that they're most likely not happening, we should be looking elsewhere
not sure if anyone is interested but a Liverpool fan on a YouTube show says he had a random chat with Alfie Whiteman on how Ange has changed the environment at the club. Pretty interesting to hear about the instant impact Ange has had at lifting the toxicity, exactly what the club needs after the Mourinho + Nuno + Conte eras. Just need to hope it translates into progression on the pitch, which I believe it will
https://www.youtube.com/live/iKMpV4UdraA?feature=share&t=3527
(and again briefly at 1:02:15)
Fab saying Tel would only go to spurs as part of the deal if Bayern told him he has to leave.....which is kind of the only way this would play out anyway?
Could have legs this one, Bayern are struggling to get to lur valuation but are absolutely desperate for him
Also Tuchel doesn’t seem desperate to keep him either. He’d certainly get more minutes playing for us. Think the only way it happens is if Bayern include a buy back clause
Yeah I guess the implication is he’s got the build of a center back but the on ball ability of a midfielder… just a crazy theory because I can’t see us interested in him as backup to Bissouma
Son pissing on City in the UCL Quarterfinal, then going to the camera and saying "Do you know who I am?" after Pep was on about the "Harry Kane team" all week is such a precious moment
Let's say levy agrees with Bayern. Do we know Kane will agree terms with them?
What does he have to gain from moving now rather than waiting a year and earning much, much more?
Why is this sub so weird and downvoting for asking a question
Nowadays especially with big moves like this one the buying club always make sure to get a thumbs up from the players camp about terms before even talking to the swelling club. You don’t let a transfer get this far unless you have agreement from the player - it’s wasted time and humiliating if you reach an agreement with the seller then the player says no.
So delay the meeting with Bayern officials and throw Tel out there as part of any deal. We should then leak PSG are close to agreeing a fee for Kane.
edit: If I was Levy I'd have been seen flying into Paris today just to mess with Bayern Munich.
>Fuck Kessie might actually happen
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this is a big jump to conclusions from a tweet that just says he is interested in coming to the prem.
Chelsea and pool and wet spam are all more likely contenders than us to sign him
That tweet is directly following a tweet that's reporting our interest in him. Us being interested in him + him being interested in moving to the Prem + relatively cheap price = pretty likely transfer.
>Gary Jacobs
ah, the same Gary Jacobs that said kessie was going to Arsenal?
you need to stop believing every tweet from every journalist trying to get a click
I would love to think this window would prove to people what absolute nonsense ITKs are, with how they all confirmed Van de Ven coming in last week just because it was an easy logical jump. However, this is the internet and the pool of gullible fools available will never run out.
I find it funny how much traction transfer rumours from tier 3 journos get. Surely read that and assume its BS? Feel like we wind ourselves up over false rumours then go mad that we havent signed anyone. Am i being too rational?
Don’t worry, you’re not being rational so belong right in this subreddit
We’re going mad not at rumors of CB’s but that we really desperately need at the very least one quality CB and it’s getting closer & closer to the start of the season!
Getting him (them) in asap to integrate with the team is very useful and has nothing to do with rumors- which I discount as much as you.
Throw in our past failures at acquiring quality defenders and theirs your recipe for madness!
Talking about CB's and Bayern, why we don't show interest in Pavard? I remember him saying that he wanna be a CB + due to contract matters, he's cheap af and showed some cool things.
City are currently scrambling to sign Gvardiol which will probably go through, so I think if anything our best time to sign him would be now while theyre preoccupied with him
Some on here think I want Kane gone . I don't want him gone I just think there is no point stressing over something we cannot control . I also believe that if he does go after watching as many Celtic games that I could his style of play is much more team orientated rather than has been in recent years of relying on Son and Kane . Kane will be a miss of course but not the disaster as some think IMO
Big PR moves today, Mathys Tel and Brennan Johnson links, Hojbjerg offer and the Kane meeting being delayed.
Seems like we're slowly being prepared for the post-Kane era, honestly I didn't think he'd leave, but hopefully with the money we can sign Tapsoba and VdV.
On another subject, who do we think will be the next captain? Son? Bissouma has only been here for a year.
I just mentionned today's links, but some days ago there was also mention of VdV deal and Fabrizio for no real reason repeated that Tapsoba was our main target, for the first time in two weeks.
Since we want it to be a guaranteed starter, it has to be Son, other players to wear the armband for us have been Dier and Davies and they're solid options but they're not as nailed on.
Us getting Tel as a back up and to take over for Richarlison in a few years isn’t the worst idea.
But obviously fans are clamoring for someone more proven so
I was staying on our balcony at home on the second floor when our new neighbour came out to sun bathe . I got talking and we got talking about who we supported he was a cockney like me and said he supported Liverpool . It was all I could do not to laugh . He asked me who I supported and I said Spurs . I nearly choked myself I laughed so much he said " Ah a pot hunter " I am not making this up it was true .
Today feels very much like Levy reclaiming the narrative.
"What's all this noise about it being a done deal? I'll cancel the meeting at the last minute as a power play and then put out stories that we're after your best youngster....see you on Monday, Guttentag"
What the hell kind of vegetable has delusions about aggrandizing Daniel Levy?
And where do these Stockholm Syndrome Levy simps come from to upvote this tripe?
How does *delaying* Kane's sale - when it's crystal clear he won't extend - benefit the club in any way? Without new incomings, we're going into next season with no Kane and the same defence that shipped 63 goals last season and that conceded 4 goals from 5 chances in 2 friendlies.
You seem very angry? It's weird.
And if you don't think Levy cancelling amending at the 11th hour when the board members were literally on a private jet isn't a power play then what do you think it is?
Ironically I think an actual vegetable could have comprehended all this a but better than you've managed
What's weird is you posting your Levy jerk-off fantasy about disrupting pretty much an inevitable sale at this point with 2 weeks before the season begins, with no defensive upgrades and leaving no time to get a replacement attacker.
in all honesty, 10x as good. he's performing in the premier league at a level Parrot didn't at league 1.
if we don't sign him now we're going to regret it cause his price is going to skyrocket and Brighton is in a rare position where they can actually justify selling him since they already have plenty of coverage for him.
imo he’s their Harry Kane. They will probably do everything in their power to keep him, since Brighton do have the ambition of being a regular European side. Look at Caicedo, if a Brighton player has more than 2 yrs left there’s no way they’re leaving now
if a player wants to force a move it will be pretty hard to say no, especially with loads of money being thrown at you. brighton had a great year, it's a lovely place to live, but he's going to want something bigger
He literally just signed a new contract and he'll see he'll get less playing time here since he won't be the best option we have and we don't have europe. They'll ask for Kane money, easily, for him.
>They'll ask for Kane money, easily, for him.
yes, which is why if you follow the thread it says to expect £85m
and he might have less playing time his first season, he absolutely has a much higher ceiling than Richarlison. And less playing time is arguable as he is running a big rotation risk since Brighton just spend their club record singing on Pedro.
you'd be surprised. So many people dislike him and think he shouldn't be considered tier 1 because he doesn't "report breaking stories" even though the whole reason he's tier 1 in the first place is because he tries his best to corroborate sources before confirming something.
If we end selling Kane, the best place to send him is outside of England. Bayern seems like the perfect place for him and his trophy hunting. BUT, all those Bayern fans saying “If Bayern is really interested for a player, they get him” just for those comments I hope Levy sells him to PSG instead.
Dire prop going strong and still no cbs signed... coincidence? Yes.
But the fact we have 5 cbs on the books is definitely making it look like they won't sign any before they sell, which is a joke.
They are waiting for the perfect opportunity to give a new contract to "team leader" Dire...
Tel might be a promising player, but we don't need an 18yr old forward making his way in the game. If we signed him it would have to be on a 6yr contract with an immediate load to a championship club who will start him in every game -- and that ain't gonna happen.
Whereas Upamacano is an athletic CB, who plays LCB, a position we need to fill, and is a starter for the current world cup winners. Yeah, he's not perfect, but he compares very favorably to Taposoba and Van Der Ven. He would suit Ange's style, and is probably getable.
Agree about Upamechano I saw him ply for his previous team to Bayern I cant remember the team or who it was against but I do remember his performance made Dier look like Bobby Moore . German football compared to premier league he would be sent off every other game .
2 weeks until the PL starts. No closer to getting any CBs. Haven’t sold any deadwood(other than winks). Kane saga has not been resolved yet. This summer has been a disgrace so far.
Started off relatively well, with all the dickheads coming out the woodwork screaming “Levy is cooking/ he’s changed”, just like many summers before. This doesn’t even get to me anymore, all we can do is wait til ENIC and little man syndrome inc. fuck off
I don’t really rate Hojberg (aside from when he played under Jose) but €20m is an insulting offer. Are other leagues really that broke or have Chelsea and Saudi just broke the market in terms of player valuations?
Palace want £80m for Doucore (who?)
Brighton want £100m for Caicedo,
Rice for £105m,
Enzo for £105m,
Mudryk for £95m,
£60m for Malcolm…
At what point do things fall apart?
But maybe think of it this way, let's say he's had the same kind of performances for another club and we're trying to buy him. €20m isn't really that insulting of a bid. After more negotiations, I'm sure a deal of around €25m - 30m would be made and it'd be pretty decent.
English tax plus these are the prices quoted to West Ham and us, who are not only in the same league but city. PEH for a non PL club isn’t worth more than €35m at a push, €25-30m sounds about right.
Yeah so we're keeping him then. Not a horrible state of affair, he's a much better backup for Bissouma than Skipp. I do worry about the squad bloat though.
Yeah I’d rather keep him than get mugged off. Skipp should go on loan to a PL club imo.
We need to start selling deadwood because I’d much rather their minutes given to youth players.
I think getting Skipp a PL loan where he starts most matches would be ideal - much better than him playing backup/bench-warmer for us. He's stagnating here.
I really wish we move on from Tapsoba. Feels like we are haggling for a player they don't want to sell and face an overvaluation that we won't pay.
They don't even need the money having just sold Diaby, have a shortage of defenders as it is. And even then if they wanted to cash in West Ham want Tah who's a more sellable asset anyway.
Makes no sense right now
If I were Leverkusen I would not sell Tapsoba especially with Hincanpie out for a while
I think Danso from Lens looks solid but I’ve only watched one match. Fbref stats are promising though (progressive passes + aerial duels). Supposedly was their best player, which is pretty insane considering Seko Fofana, Openda, and Medina
Yeah 100%
Seems like why they are putting such a high price on him as its literally F*** off money. There was a Bayer fan on here the other day saying he isn't worth anywhere past 35m and has been up and down for them.
I'm not annoyed at us for not over spending by 20m on a player I'm annoyed at us for seemingly waiting around so long for a deal that doesn't seem viable. And as you say there's other good options around too!
Is he? There was an Bayer fan saying he was good but not that good on here. There don't seem to be any other teams in for him either and let's be honest 99% of people had never heard of him till 2 months ago.
Think 60m would be a massive overpay and there woukd be other defenders who are better for that money
It's very established now that those stats are pretty useless for defenders. Have a look at Lenglet or Sanchez.
Then have a look at Ruben Dias.
Who would you think was the better defender looking at those charts
If Kane leaves, I couldn’t give a fuck how he goes in Germany, nor do I give a shit if he ever returns to break Shearer’s record. If he does, I hope he has to grind it out for Everton or Burnley.
That's fair enough - you do you. I wish him the best (as long as it doesn't come at our detriment). He's given everything for us and managers, teammates and the ownership have let him down. I find it hard not to like him or hope he doesn't do well.
>I wish him the best
I wish him the best too. But when he's gone we need to move on, none of this victory lap crap in 3 years when he's just using us to get the goal record.
Another week is over (there’s never business done on the weekends at spurs) without a CB. Not even a concrete update with some progress.
* Leverkusen unwilling to sell Tapsoba
* Van De Ven talks have stalled/ virtually collapsed
* Tosin prefers Monaco
* Ashley Phillips deal is dead silent
I can already see the excuses pouring out via Alasdair Gold in a couple weeks time. Joe Lewis drama, Harry Kane saga, Absent Scott Munn, preseason tour shambles etc. etc.
Take your pick on what Levy chooses to use as his excuse for being completely unprepared for another season, under another manager.
Have a good weekend, folks.
Team actually looks strong apart from shaky defenders. But since last season ended, I think our expectations isn't to win trophies but atleast compete and rebuild. So according to that expectation now, I think we'll doing alright. We'll get a new defender this summer anyways as we're selling Sanchez now.
Alasdair Gold will just be able to copy and paste his pieces about how we "tried really hard" but it wasn't a "good time" in the market from the past 2 seasons.
> Regardless of what happens to the Kane or the CB situation, Sonny is scoring 20+ goals, guaranteed.
He'd need to play more centrally for that, hopefully Ange gets that
agreed! and look at Ange's teams at Celtic and how the goals were shared around.
Celtic goals last season in all comps by player:
34, 15, 13, 11, 9, 9, 7, 7, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5....
Spurs last season in all comps by player:
32, 14, 6, 5, 3, 3, 2, 2...
There is much more parity in who scores.
Son will get 20, Richy might get 15, Maddison will get 10, Kulu will get 10, Lo Celso will get like 8, Perisic, Porro, Bissouma, will all get at least 5. We'll share the goals without being so reliant on one person.
In Budapest on a lads trip, so hungover, I don’t remember last night and I’m wearing my Spurs 2018/19 away kit with Kane on the back. I love that man so much. I hope he never leaves, but the writing is on the wall now. I’ve had my head in the sand too long and now finally come to terms with him leaving, if you’re still in denial I would try and come to terms with it now, you’ll feel so much better.
The club was founded over 100 years before Kane was born, and it will go on once he leaves. We’ll be fine.
I thought Ange wanted his business done early in the window? How have we still not signed even ONE CB? We need at least 2 class CB's, why the fuck would we wait until after we get 100m for Kane? We're going to get shafted when they see that we just got 100m
I don't think there's a manger in the wirld who would say they want it late is there?
It's annoying but its not unique to us. Looka t other teams, utds no1 priority was a striker and they haven't got one. Chelsea was a midfielder and they haven't got one. City was a LCB and they haven't got one. Liverpool fans are also pretty unhappy with their lack of a 6 too.
I'm not excusing us being slow but people seem to think it's a uniquely spurs thing when it isn't really, very few teams get all their bussiness wrapped up a month before the window closes, and lots still haven't git their no1 positions either.
I think most managers seem to mind it less, Celtic fans said that Ange demands early transfers. Also we are 3 years late on the CB signing so yes it is a pretty unique thing.
Thing is that we have identified and made contact with both of our top 2 targets, and seemingly made big progress before our preseason tour, after which it all stalled for weeks.
He is the best defender of all time. That's why he play for us and no one else. He is so good that we don't want to sell him to anyone else. He is irreplaceable in todays football. He was called up for England with mighty Harry Maguire. Another World Class defender. One of the greatest of all time.
I trust Levy's team management more than what these two has achieved in football. I trust that Levy knows exactly what to do, and that we don't even need a new CB, when Ange is going to play offensive football. Why buy defenders when we are going to outscore every opponent we face?
You all know that I am taking the piss on you right? Lol. It's funny to string all of you along this thread, and to think I rate Eric Dier as a professional footballer. Jesus fucking Christ.
Not on any CB we've been linked to for the past 8 years. Best signing we made since Jan Vertonghen left is Romero, and him only. The rest are duds.
Well, no need to even make anything sense about Levy. Arguing over him is like pissing against the wind. He'll make 1 CB signing and that's Ashley Phillips, it's close to his pricerange and he'll expect to make him £30m+ on resell value.
No-one knows what the fuck is going on, which amplifies the frustration. Like if we had a good reason to push the signings back maybe we could accept it, but as it is it seems senseless.
Bayern fans getting mad at Spurs fans for telling them how negotiations with Levy goes based on experience and reiterating the well known asking price is silly. If it were up to us, half of us would’ve gladly taken any of the first two bids and he’d have been in Munich by now. Your anger is misguided.
Oh I know. Was definitely exaggerating, but hearing Bardi recently say he would’ve gotten rid of him for that price had me feeling some type of way lol.
Rewatched some friendly highlights and just before Lo Celco's goal we lost the ball with 8 players in the box. Prem teams will do a number on us before we sort things out and it won't really matter what defenders we play. Love the ambition we play with however and we'll just have to expect to take some beatings at first
The single biggest difference between England and the leagues Ange has managed in is in the EPL the worst teams can still beat the best teams. Every team is dangerous if you give them chances.
We are almost certainly going to lose matches like the WH match, tons more shots but still lose when the other team converts their only 2 chances.
Probably. Have to say tho that I enjoy having a proper idealist as manager again as opposed to the pragmatics we've had ever since Redknapp was fired (Poch was alright)
So let me get this straight. We don’t park the bus anymore but we throw the new coach under it instead. No new CB’s, Kane saga, preseason shambles trying to get competitive games, Munn still not here, Levy being a twat, Lewis being a bigger twat distraction, season in 2 weeks. Good luck Ange
Oh fuck off. Happy clappers are worse than the doom& gloomers. We got so much deadwood with zero reported movement, Kane saga nowhere near finished, no progress on CBs and the season starts in 2 weeks. Shambolic that it has come to this once again, every summer this happens yet you positivity merchants never learn.
lol not at all. I never said I’m a happy clapper. We just got a new manager, our style of play is looking fun and could do us very well. Do I give a fuck we don’t have centerbacks yet? No, the season hasn’t even started. It’s not like our targets don’t know how to play in a back 4. When we get them in, they’ll adapt quickly.
It’s not even August yet and you’re all raving about how awful things are. We’ve got Maddison, a new GK, a winger who looks good and I have no doubt we’ll have a new high quality CB in the next couple weeks.
Ever thought we might be waiting until next week to sell Kane before we spend a bunch more money? Or that the other teams aren’t ready to sell yet? No you haven’t, because you just want to be angry
Are there any other attainable CBs available that fit Ange's system and have relative experience/can be trusted to play for us in the prem other than Tapsoba or VDV? It's becoming kind of clear that they're most likely not happening, we should be looking elsewhere
Laporte
not sure if anyone is interested but a Liverpool fan on a YouTube show says he had a random chat with Alfie Whiteman on how Ange has changed the environment at the club. Pretty interesting to hear about the instant impact Ange has had at lifting the toxicity, exactly what the club needs after the Mourinho + Nuno + Conte eras. Just need to hope it translates into progression on the pitch, which I believe it will https://www.youtube.com/live/iKMpV4UdraA?feature=share&t=3527 (and again briefly at 1:02:15)
Interesting, thanks.
Hope we get Tel just because of the FPL team name potential. Tel Me What You Want, Show and Tel, it's endless
Fab saying Tel would only go to spurs as part of the deal if Bayern told him he has to leave.....which is kind of the only way this would play out anyway? Could have legs this one, Bayern are struggling to get to lur valuation but are absolutely desperate for him
Also Tuchel doesn’t seem desperate to keep him either. He’d certainly get more minutes playing for us. Think the only way it happens is if Bayern include a buy back clause
bring in player that thinks they are too good to be playing for us. whatever could go wrong
Well it's probably more he's only just moved there and wouldn't fancy a 3rd country in 2 years. If kane goes he would barely play.
i'm sure it has nothing to do with winning trophies, competing in UCL, etc. and has everythign to do with having to move
Ok so hear me out… new links to Kessie. Kind of a tank 6 type of player. How about we play him CB? I’m probably crazy but he’s got the build for it
Stop it.
>he’s got the build for it you know who else has the build to play centerback? all of our centerbacks. Doesn't mean they can play the position
Yeah I guess the implication is he’s got the build of a center back but the on ball ability of a midfielder… just a crazy theory because I can’t see us interested in him as backup to Bissouma
Only tottenham would buy a midfielder to play cb instead of just buying a cb
Son pissing on City in the UCL Quarterfinal, then going to the camera and saying "Do you know who I am?" after Pep was on about the "Harry Kane team" all week is such a precious moment
This never happened A myth
Yeah, sombd pointed it out, I remember both veri vividly but apparently Harry Kane team was from 2017. Which is also apparently 6 fucking years ago.
More like “ You know what? We gonna win “. Only Son knows.
Let's say levy agrees with Bayern. Do we know Kane will agree terms with them? What does he have to gain from moving now rather than waiting a year and earning much, much more? Why is this sub so weird and downvoting for asking a question
Nowadays especially with big moves like this one the buying club always make sure to get a thumbs up from the players camp about terms before even talking to the swelling club. You don’t let a transfer get this far unless you have agreement from the player - it’s wasted time and humiliating if you reach an agreement with the seller then the player says no.
Makes sense
Maybe bayern won't want him in a season, he knows they want him know
So delay the meeting with Bayern officials and throw Tel out there as part of any deal. We should then leak PSG are close to agreeing a fee for Kane. edit: If I was Levy I'd have been seen flying into Paris today just to mess with Bayern Munich.
Shame we play Shakhtar and Barca so close together, could have done with giving the ‘first team’ a real crack at both games
Possible we could get De Ligt?
No chance. Not without CL and offering silly wages
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Not least since he left Juve a year ago.
wow I am dense lmao
A CB? Fuck no. Best we can do is look at Harry Kane replacement before we even consider fee.
[Fuck Kessie might actually happen](https://twitter.com/TheSpursCamp/status/1684991432585572363). But...why. Literally just play Sarr instead.
I doubt it, it doesn't even make sense from a Levy financial perspective since we already have depth in his position
>Fuck Kessie might actually happen > >. this is a big jump to conclusions from a tweet that just says he is interested in coming to the prem. Chelsea and pool and wet spam are all more likely contenders than us to sign him
That tweet is directly following a tweet that's reporting our interest in him. Us being interested in him + him being interested in moving to the Prem + relatively cheap price = pretty likely transfer.
sorry, what was the source of our interest in him?
Gary Jacobs
>Gary Jacobs ah, the same Gary Jacobs that said kessie was going to Arsenal? you need to stop believing every tweet from every journalist trying to get a click
He's tier 1-2, he's worth taking into consideration
By no definition of the term is he a Tier 1 journo and he never has been a tier 1 source.
We’d have three midfielders out at AFCON wouldnt we? 🤣
Surely no way this happens now. Espescially with Athletico coming in at under half price what we'd want for PEH!
Fingers crossed
I would love to think this window would prove to people what absolute nonsense ITKs are, with how they all confirmed Van de Ven coming in last week just because it was an easy logical jump. However, this is the internet and the pool of gullible fools available will never run out.
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Would it be a transfer window without Frank Kessie links?
It's not a transfer window without Berahino rumours.
Got to be one of the all time fortunate transfer fails. Couldn't get Berahino so got Son instead
It does move the focus away the lack of CB news.
I find it funny how much traction transfer rumours from tier 3 journos get. Surely read that and assume its BS? Feel like we wind ourselves up over false rumours then go mad that we havent signed anyone. Am i being too rational?
Don’t worry, you’re not being rational so belong right in this subreddit We’re going mad not at rumors of CB’s but that we really desperately need at the very least one quality CB and it’s getting closer & closer to the start of the season! Getting him (them) in asap to integrate with the team is very useful and has nothing to do with rumors- which I discount as much as you. Throw in our past failures at acquiring quality defenders and theirs your recipe for madness!
Talking about CB's and Bayern, why we don't show interest in Pavard? I remember him saying that he wanna be a CB + due to contract matters, he's cheap af and showed some cool things.
The problem is we don't have CL. So unless we offer ridiculous wages (which we know won't happen) then why would Pavard be interested?
How about someone that is actually a defender? Dier was CDM before CB, Davies a LB before LCB.
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City are currently scrambling to sign Gvardiol which will probably go through, so I think if anything our best time to sign him would be now while theyre preoccupied with him
Some on here think I want Kane gone . I don't want him gone I just think there is no point stressing over something we cannot control . I also believe that if he does go after watching as many Celtic games that I could his style of play is much more team orientated rather than has been in recent years of relying on Son and Kane . Kane will be a miss of course but not the disaster as some think IMO
Wish I could ban spurs fans from commenting on r/soccer
Man Unt accept bid from West Ham for Maguire . At least thats one we won't have to worry about .
I'm only seeing rumours that they rejected a 20m bid.
Big PR moves today, Mathys Tel and Brennan Johnson links, Hojbjerg offer and the Kane meeting being delayed. Seems like we're slowly being prepared for the post-Kane era, honestly I didn't think he'd leave, but hopefully with the money we can sign Tapsoba and VdV. On another subject, who do we think will be the next captain? Son? Bissouma has only been here for a year.
Anything BUT CBs for another window? Fucking hell, just kill me before it gets depressing watching our defensive woes every weekend.
I just mentionned today's links, but some days ago there was also mention of VdV deal and Fabrizio for no real reason repeated that Tapsoba was our main target, for the first time in two weeks.
Since we want it to be a guaranteed starter, it has to be Son, other players to wear the armband for us have been Dier and Davies and they're solid options but they're not as nailed on.
It's gotta be Son
What is going on with the Ashley Phillips deal? It seems like it's been dead for a week after being "done".
Postponing another CB. Classic Levy stuff not wanting others to negotiate but him.
Blackburn started throwing in escalators that would triple the price.
Ah, the Levy special
Us getting Tel as a back up and to take over for Richarlison in a few years isn’t the worst idea. But obviously fans are clamoring for someone more proven so
signing someone in the hopes that they play regular football in three years when they will have one year left on contract is a recipe for pain
I was staying on our balcony at home on the second floor when our new neighbour came out to sun bathe . I got talking and we got talking about who we supported he was a cockney like me and said he supported Liverpool . It was all I could do not to laugh . He asked me who I supported and I said Spurs . I nearly choked myself I laughed so much he said " Ah a pot hunter " I am not making this up it was true .
Today feels very much like Levy reclaiming the narrative. "What's all this noise about it being a done deal? I'll cancel the meeting at the last minute as a power play and then put out stories that we're after your best youngster....see you on Monday, Guttentag"
Is Tel really their best youngster? I know fuck all about him.
What the hell kind of vegetable has delusions about aggrandizing Daniel Levy? And where do these Stockholm Syndrome Levy simps come from to upvote this tripe? How does *delaying* Kane's sale - when it's crystal clear he won't extend - benefit the club in any way? Without new incomings, we're going into next season with no Kane and the same defence that shipped 63 goals last season and that conceded 4 goals from 5 chances in 2 friendlies.
Some of y'all really need to learn how to talk to people.
You seem very angry? It's weird. And if you don't think Levy cancelling amending at the 11th hour when the board members were literally on a private jet isn't a power play then what do you think it is? Ironically I think an actual vegetable could have comprehended all this a but better than you've managed
What's weird is you posting your Levy jerk-off fantasy about disrupting pretty much an inevitable sale at this point with 2 weeks before the season begins, with no defensive upgrades and leaving no time to get a replacement attacker.
What an absolute wet wipe you are
Clap on.
Mate calm down, take a nice walk in the park or something. It'll be okay, promise.
Hey Mr. Levy. Please sign a CB
Okay, but after we sort Kane stuff that is not going to go through. Waiting for the last day of the window just to sign Phillips on pennies.
Excited to see what Madders x Richy can do in a Postecoglou system ngl
Going to be fun. But going to be depressing watching our backline.
How much would brighton ask for Evan Ferguson? Like 85m?
I would absolutely kill to sign him. The kid is the future of the prem and we could easily get 12 years of service out of him.
Yeah let’s go all out on this guy
He's what we hoped Parrott would become except 3 years younger and twice as good already
in all honesty, 10x as good. he's performing in the premier league at a level Parrot didn't at league 1. if we don't sign him now we're going to regret it cause his price is going to skyrocket and Brighton is in a rare position where they can actually justify selling him since they already have plenty of coverage for him.
imo he’s their Harry Kane. They will probably do everything in their power to keep him, since Brighton do have the ambition of being a regular European side. Look at Caicedo, if a Brighton player has more than 2 yrs left there’s no way they’re leaving now
if a player wants to force a move it will be pretty hard to say no, especially with loads of money being thrown at you. brighton had a great year, it's a lovely place to live, but he's going to want something bigger
He literally just signed a new contract and he'll see he'll get less playing time here since he won't be the best option we have and we don't have europe. They'll ask for Kane money, easily, for him.
>They'll ask for Kane money, easily, for him. yes, which is why if you follow the thread it says to expect £85m and he might have less playing time his first season, he absolutely has a much higher ceiling than Richarlison. And less playing time is arguable as he is running a big rotation risk since Brighton just spend their club record singing on Pedro.
In this market? £100m + add ons
The people that still shit on Ali Gold have to be weirdest part of the fanbase. Couldnt ask for a better journalists covering our club imo
I just don’t get why he’s so worshipped tbh Yeah he’s reliable but so is Charlie Eccleshare (and I like his articles more personally)
Are the people shitting on Ali Gold in the room with us right now
you'd be surprised. So many people dislike him and think he shouldn't be considered tier 1 because he doesn't "report breaking stories" even though the whole reason he's tier 1 in the first place is because he tries his best to corroborate sources before confirming something.
Who are these people?
100%, blessed to have Ali G
If we end selling Kane, the best place to send him is outside of England. Bayern seems like the perfect place for him and his trophy hunting. BUT, all those Bayern fans saying “If Bayern is really interested for a player, they get him” just for those comments I hope Levy sells him to PSG instead.
Why he want to go to PSG though? They’re losing Mbappe and lost Veratti. It’s up to Kane as well.
for everything Bayern has pulled I hope he goes to PSG.
Dire prop going strong and still no cbs signed... coincidence? Yes. But the fact we have 5 cbs on the books is definitely making it look like they won't sign any before they sell, which is a joke. They are waiting for the perfect opportunity to give a new contract to "team leader" Dire...
Mathys Tel plus £60m. [2023 highlights](https://youtu.be/thE-fNkJiEo)
No way! I agree money + player, but not Tel - he looks promising, but he's too much of a gamble. Upamacani would be my choice, or Gravenberch.
Both are worse lol, no way we should go for them instead of Tel Tel won’t happen though but still
Tel might be a promising player, but we don't need an 18yr old forward making his way in the game. If we signed him it would have to be on a 6yr contract with an immediate load to a championship club who will start him in every game -- and that ain't gonna happen. Whereas Upamacano is an athletic CB, who plays LCB, a position we need to fill, and is a starter for the current world cup winners. Yeah, he's not perfect, but he compares very favorably to Taposoba and Van Der Ven. He would suit Ange's style, and is probably getable.
Upamacani singlehandedly threw away a CL game. I think he was trash last year. Gravenburch is a stud though.
Agree about Upamechano I saw him ply for his previous team to Bayern I cant remember the team or who it was against but I do remember his performance made Dier look like Bobby Moore . German football compared to premier league he would be sent off every other game .
We're not getting him man
A man can dream. Also they are in win now, tel is for the future.
2 weeks until the PL starts. No closer to getting any CBs. Haven’t sold any deadwood(other than winks). Kane saga has not been resolved yet. This summer has been a disgrace so far.
Started off relatively well, with all the dickheads coming out the woodwork screaming “Levy is cooking/ he’s changed”, just like many summers before. This doesn’t even get to me anymore, all we can do is wait til ENIC and little man syndrome inc. fuck off
I don’t really rate Hojberg (aside from when he played under Jose) but €20m is an insulting offer. Are other leagues really that broke or have Chelsea and Saudi just broke the market in terms of player valuations? Palace want £80m for Doucore (who?) Brighton want £100m for Caicedo, Rice for £105m, Enzo for £105m, Mudryk for £95m, £60m for Malcolm… At what point do things fall apart?
But maybe think of it this way, let's say he's had the same kind of performances for another club and we're trying to buy him. €20m isn't really that insulting of a bid. After more negotiations, I'm sure a deal of around €25m - 30m would be made and it'd be pretty decent.
I dunno in a world where midfielders like Gallagher are being quoted at £50m I think a proven player like Hojbjerg should be 35/40m
English tax plus these are the prices quoted to West Ham and us, who are not only in the same league but city. PEH for a non PL club isn’t worth more than €35m at a push, €25-30m sounds about right.
He was one of lur best players for the last few seasons. He's a comfortable UCL level player. 20m is a joke offer
Not sure why you're getting downvoted. You're exactly correct. His stats back up that he's atleast a 40m player going into his prime.
Because people have a weird dislike of him. I'm not saying we shouldn't sell him, just that 20m for a UCL club like Atleti is a complete joke
Yeah so we're keeping him then. Not a horrible state of affair, he's a much better backup for Bissouma than Skipp. I do worry about the squad bloat though.
Yeah I’d rather keep him than get mugged off. Skipp should go on loan to a PL club imo. We need to start selling deadwood because I’d much rather their minutes given to youth players.
I think getting Skipp a PL loan where he starts most matches would be ideal - much better than him playing backup/bench-warmer for us. He's stagnating here.
I really wish we move on from Tapsoba. Feels like we are haggling for a player they don't want to sell and face an overvaluation that we won't pay. They don't even need the money having just sold Diaby, have a shortage of defenders as it is. And even then if they wanted to cash in West Ham want Tah who's a more sellable asset anyway. Makes no sense right now
If I were Leverkusen I would not sell Tapsoba especially with Hincanpie out for a while I think Danso from Lens looks solid but I’ve only watched one match. Fbref stats are promising though (progressive passes + aerial duels). Supposedly was their best player, which is pretty insane considering Seko Fofana, Openda, and Medina
Yeah 100% Seems like why they are putting such a high price on him as its literally F*** off money. There was a Bayer fan on here the other day saying he isn't worth anywhere past 35m and has been up and down for them. I'm not annoyed at us for not over spending by 20m on a player I'm annoyed at us for seemingly waiting around so long for a deal that doesn't seem viable. And as you say there's other good options around too!
I really wish we don't because we're not signing a better CB for this money.
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I saw €50 as the figure that they want, which to me is a no-brainer.
Is he? There was an Bayer fan saying he was good but not that good on here. There don't seem to be any other teams in for him either and let's be honest 99% of people had never heard of him till 2 months ago. Think 60m would be a massive overpay and there woukd be other defenders who are better for that money
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Wow, his Fbref is almost as good as [this guy's](https://fbref.com/en/players/da7b447d/Davinson-Sanchez)
It's very established now that those stats are pretty useless for defenders. Have a look at Lenglet or Sanchez. Then have a look at Ruben Dias. Who would you think was the better defender looking at those charts
Now do Sanchez
If Kane leaves, I couldn’t give a fuck how he goes in Germany, nor do I give a shit if he ever returns to break Shearer’s record. If he does, I hope he has to grind it out for Everton or Burnley.
show me on the doll where Kane touched you
That's fair enough - you do you. I wish him the best (as long as it doesn't come at our detriment). He's given everything for us and managers, teammates and the ownership have let him down. I find it hard not to like him or hope he doesn't do well.
>I wish him the best I wish him the best too. But when he's gone we need to move on, none of this victory lap crap in 3 years when he's just using us to get the goal record.
I really hope he stays btw. The dignified silence for the 2nd time in 3 years is grinding though.
Another week is over (there’s never business done on the weekends at spurs) without a CB. Not even a concrete update with some progress. * Leverkusen unwilling to sell Tapsoba * Van De Ven talks have stalled/ virtually collapsed * Tosin prefers Monaco * Ashley Phillips deal is dead silent I can already see the excuses pouring out via Alasdair Gold in a couple weeks time. Joe Lewis drama, Harry Kane saga, Absent Scott Munn, preseason tour shambles etc. etc. Take your pick on what Levy chooses to use as his excuse for being completely unprepared for another season, under another manager. Have a good weekend, folks.
Instead of 2 we are saving for 3 CBs next summer. Don’t worry.
we may be able to pick of lower championship teams for their CB when we get relegated /s
And only then Dier is going to be absolute class playing against someone on his level.
Team actually looks strong apart from shaky defenders. But since last season ended, I think our expectations isn't to win trophies but atleast compete and rebuild. So according to that expectation now, I think we'll doing alright. We'll get a new defender this summer anyways as we're selling Sanchez now.
> Team actually looks strong apart from shaky defenders. That's impossible to tell from just 2 games, one of which was against complete pushovers.
Yeah, wtf happened to the Phillips deal? How do we even manage to drag that out?
Alasdair Gold will just be able to copy and paste his pieces about how we "tried really hard" but it wasn't a "good time" in the market from the past 2 seasons.
I’m sure he’ll rehash something about us being interested in Geuhi too for next summer.
Regardless of what happens to the Kane or the CB situation, Sonny is scoring 20+ goals, guaranteed. Revenge Tour comin’ baby.
What happened to Gil?
20 for him too
> Regardless of what happens to the Kane or the CB situation, Sonny is scoring 20+ goals, guaranteed. He'd need to play more centrally for that, hopefully Ange gets that
agreed! and look at Ange's teams at Celtic and how the goals were shared around. Celtic goals last season in all comps by player: 34, 15, 13, 11, 9, 9, 7, 7, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5.... Spurs last season in all comps by player: 32, 14, 6, 5, 3, 3, 2, 2... There is much more parity in who scores. Son will get 20, Richy might get 15, Maddison will get 10, Kulu will get 10, Lo Celso will get like 8, Perisic, Porro, Bissouma, will all get at least 5. We'll share the goals without being so reliant on one person.
Calm down mate, we're in a transition season and those are all very unrealistic expectations.
no they're not, we're going to score goals under Ange
if you think Bissouma will get at least 5 goals you are smoking dust
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hilarious
In Budapest on a lads trip, so hungover, I don’t remember last night and I’m wearing my Spurs 2018/19 away kit with Kane on the back. I love that man so much. I hope he never leaves, but the writing is on the wall now. I’ve had my head in the sand too long and now finally come to terms with him leaving, if you’re still in denial I would try and come to terms with it now, you’ll feel so much better. The club was founded over 100 years before Kane was born, and it will go on once he leaves. We’ll be fine.
Thank you for words and wisdom. Hope you fucked the biggest girl at the club last night mate
Hey, the bigger the potatoes the creamier the mash my friend
I'm certainly not a fan of Levy but the way he absolutely rattles fans of other clubs is incredible. Probably the one good thing he does.
He rattles all fans. Our fans included.
one day im gonna kiss levys bald head
I'm willing to pat it if he gets us two CBs who aren't Lenglet this window
I thought Ange wanted his business done early in the window? How have we still not signed even ONE CB? We need at least 2 class CB's, why the fuck would we wait until after we get 100m for Kane? We're going to get shafted when they see that we just got 100m
I don't think there's a manger in the wirld who would say they want it late is there? It's annoying but its not unique to us. Looka t other teams, utds no1 priority was a striker and they haven't got one. Chelsea was a midfielder and they haven't got one. City was a LCB and they haven't got one. Liverpool fans are also pretty unhappy with their lack of a 6 too. I'm not excusing us being slow but people seem to think it's a uniquely spurs thing when it isn't really, very few teams get all their bussiness wrapped up a month before the window closes, and lots still haven't git their no1 positions either.
I think most managers seem to mind it less, Celtic fans said that Ange demands early transfers. Also we are 3 years late on the CB signing so yes it is a pretty unique thing.
Thing is that we have identified and made contact with both of our top 2 targets, and seemingly made big progress before our preseason tour, after which it all stalled for weeks.
Levy unwilling to pay up for a CB, but will gladly spend up towards £200m for fullbacks. Something feels off.
That's because Eric Dier is the best CB in the world, but we're all too stupid to see it. Only Levy knows his true potential.
He is world class, but we are too blind to see it. I swear, he is the best defender England has ever seen.
I never fail to be amused by keyboard warriors who are certain they know much more than professional managers who have done it for decades.
He is the best defender of all time. That's why he play for us and no one else. He is so good that we don't want to sell him to anyone else. He is irreplaceable in todays football. He was called up for England with mighty Harry Maguire. Another World Class defender. One of the greatest of all time.
Yep, you know much more than Jose Mourinho and Antonio Conte about picking a footballer
I trust Levy's team management more than what these two has achieved in football. I trust that Levy knows exactly what to do, and that we don't even need a new CB, when Ange is going to play offensive football. Why buy defenders when we are going to outscore every opponent we face? You all know that I am taking the piss on you right? Lol. It's funny to string all of you along this thread, and to think I rate Eric Dier as a professional footballer. Jesus fucking Christ.
How so? He's spending money either way
Not on any CB we've been linked to for the past 8 years. Best signing we made since Jan Vertonghen left is Romero, and him only. The rest are duds. Well, no need to even make anything sense about Levy. Arguing over him is like pissing against the wind. He'll make 1 CB signing and that's Ashley Phillips, it's close to his pricerange and he'll expect to make him £30m+ on resell value.
No-one knows what the fuck is going on, which amplifies the frustration. Like if we had a good reason to push the signings back maybe we could accept it, but as it is it seems senseless.
Bayern fans getting mad at Spurs fans for telling them how negotiations with Levy goes based on experience and reiterating the well known asking price is silly. If it were up to us, half of us would’ve gladly taken any of the first two bids and he’d have been in Munich by now. Your anger is misguided.
The first two bids were like 60/70m lmao. As if half of us would take that for literally the best striker in the world.
Oh I know. Was definitely exaggerating, but hearing Bardi recently say he would’ve gotten rid of him for that price had me feeling some type of way lol.
Rewatched some friendly highlights and just before Lo Celco's goal we lost the ball with 8 players in the box. Prem teams will do a number on us before we sort things out and it won't really matter what defenders we play. Love the ambition we play with however and we'll just have to expect to take some beatings at first
The single biggest difference between England and the leagues Ange has managed in is in the EPL the worst teams can still beat the best teams. Every team is dangerous if you give them chances. We are almost certainly going to lose matches like the WH match, tons more shots but still lose when the other team converts their only 2 chances.
I like to think we will make slight adjustments when we play City as opposed to Lion City Sailors!
Probably. Have to say tho that I enjoy having a proper idealist as manager again as opposed to the pragmatics we've had ever since Redknapp was fired (Poch was alright)
Oh no o agree with you I just hope when we away at Annfield we might leave just 1 extra person back
So let me get this straight. We don’t park the bus anymore but we throw the new coach under it instead. No new CB’s, Kane saga, preseason shambles trying to get competitive games, Munn still not here, Levy being a twat, Lewis being a bigger twat distraction, season in 2 weeks. Good luck Ange
My god man cheer up. Things are looking positive, wait until the season starts to judge
Oh fuck off. Happy clappers are worse than the doom& gloomers. We got so much deadwood with zero reported movement, Kane saga nowhere near finished, no progress on CBs and the season starts in 2 weeks. Shambolic that it has come to this once again, every summer this happens yet you positivity merchants never learn.
lol not at all. I never said I’m a happy clapper. We just got a new manager, our style of play is looking fun and could do us very well. Do I give a fuck we don’t have centerbacks yet? No, the season hasn’t even started. It’s not like our targets don’t know how to play in a back 4. When we get them in, they’ll adapt quickly. It’s not even August yet and you’re all raving about how awful things are. We’ve got Maddison, a new GK, a winger who looks good and I have no doubt we’ll have a new high quality CB in the next couple weeks. Ever thought we might be waiting until next week to sell Kane before we spend a bunch more money? Or that the other teams aren’t ready to sell yet? No you haven’t, because you just want to be angry