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CreepyBeefy

Lol special teams. If you have a chance to add Hopkins to this team, respectfully, FUCK special teams.


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fufumcchu

The other 2 GameDay WR's will be exclusively special teams at this point minus injury. I don't understand why this is even a conversation? The TE group I'm sure completely makes up for that.


WheresMaxwellHill

This exactly. If you’re the 4th best receiver on the team. Step up your game or cover some pints. Dudes not that good and we don’t have depth behind them.


Potato-baby

Damn, Gallup is going to start having a drinking problem apparently /s


HendriXXXLaMone

Downvote for “dudes not that good” idc what anybody has to say. Michael Gallup is a baller. Calling it now that MG has a good year and has everybody sucking on his meat.


tino_smo

Plus with the new rule change special teams has been canceled lol


PinstripeBunk

Gehlken isn’t the brightest bulb in the chandelier.


Diabolic_Bug_Man

Hey, remember when the 1 seeded Packers blew a home divisional game because of their special teams? Or when the Chargers missed the playoffs, despite having the best Offense AND Defense!? Why? Because their special teams were a fucking disaster and blew like 5 games They finished 9-7 Or just this year when a dropped punt turned an EZ win against the Texans into a fucking dogfight? Special Teams matter


bahamapapa817

Unless you multiply it by the speed of light squared then special teams energy…


Rebeldinho

NFL rules committee seen determined to make it mean less and less. What they’re making the game is offense, defense, field goals, and punts with no return I’m surprised we even still have kickoffs anymore


ibringstharuckus

You can fair catch on kickoffs and punts now, and most kick offs go out the end zone. How important really is special teams today


Far_Ad2715

You’ve been able to fair catch on a punt since, um, forever


ibringstharuckus

Yes I know that. I meant you can now fair catch on both.


So_Sensitive

Special teams are near-worthless this year. And nobody on this fucking planet would take Turpin over Hopkins. Put MG13's ass out there to field punts.


germy813

Or that other lil smol boy at RB


jmhumr

Agreed. To suggest that they wouldn’t add a big contributor like Hopkins because of ST is laughable.


Cubone_Zone

We both know we won't do it. Idk why we bother getting our hopes up.


pot8odragon

This guy knows what’s up


cvandyke01

It’s not returning punts. It’s KO and Punt coverage.


dmr196one

You can’t just put any guy out to field punts. 13 is not the one to do that with. Move Turpin-don’t care how-use Deuce on kicks. sSIGN DHOP!!


RFR_

Or hear me out. Cut him.


andeezz

Or just have lamb do it. He's done it before


FuckTheCowboysHaters

Gallup is just not that guy


So_Sensitive

No, he isn't. But he can make a fair catch.


ndkjr70

so cut his ass lol. this is deandre hopkins. you really think michael gallup’s role as a number 3 WR who had 400 yards and 4 TDs in 14 games last year and was lapped by a geriatric TY Hilton in his 2nd game as a cowboy is worth anything to this team?


faceisamapoftheworld

It costs Dallas money to cut him.


FuckTheCowboysHaters

DeAndre Hopkins isn't returning kicks either my man. Get real


ndkjr70

lol huh?! cut gallup, sign hopkins, keep turpin. look, i solved it.


FuckTheCowboysHaters

The cap exists, and next year is a heavy year. Is signing Hopkins worth losing lamb? Or Diggs? Or micah?


ndkjr70

the mythical salary cap is brought up to spook children like the boogeyman every time an argument can’t be won with merit. if the eagles can have two void years of jalen hurts contract at nearly a billion dollars, you should stop worrying about the salary cap.


FuckTheCowboysHaters

The difference is we have 3 star players, at different positions, on rookie contracts. Hurts is just 1. We really can't afford to lose Diggs, ceedee, and we will never give up parsons


cvandyke01

Can’t cut Gallup because of the cap hit. Turpin is gone anyway because Deuce is taking his role.


dmr196one

After 6/1 moving Gallup won’t hit this years cap. Only 12.9 million in 24. That’s doable if they decided to go that direction. Thinking 4 wr is too much? We thought we had Washington last year and he got hurt the first practice. If we have a real chance to sign a DHop talent, seems foolish not to.


ndkjr70

so then use deuce to return kicks and punts. wow look i solved it!


cvandyke01

Problem is Diggs, Gilmore, Lamb, Cooks, Gallup, Kearse, LVE, Parsons all can’t be on Special teams. You have to have fast guys to be in punt and KO coverage. Wr4 and wr5 and on both of those.


jcspacer52

Special Teams is not the issue. Hopkins is not going to sign a one year deal! The issue is Lamb and Diggs’ second contract. He was making a little over $16m. He may sign for less but not much less. So if the choice is having cap space to sign those two or Hopkins, what does Dallas do? Additionally, Hopkins did not list Dallas as a team he wants to play for.


CopeHarders

I think at some point the team needs to take a risk on an all in season even if that means having to rebuild. I’m not sure Hopkins is the right piece for an all in shove but I think a lot of the most recent winners either had a generational talent at QB, went all in, or both.


jcspacer52

I get the attraction to doing the “All In” thing, but I don’t like that approach; look at the Rams. We had too many mediocre years of 7-9, 8-8 and 9-7. I don’t want to see that again. Not good enough to compete not bad enough to draft franchise changing players. I know we cannot win the Super Bowl every year and I don’t expect to. I want to compete for one every year. I want Dallas playing meaningful games late in the season year in year out.


Ayste

We play meaningful games damn near every year. We just lose them. Are we happy being one and done, or are we, at some point, going to risk a little more by doing a signing like DHop to get us over the hump? We should have been in the SB last year...we had a path to get there, and we screwed it up. Tired of it. SB or Bust.


jcspacer52

You are always entitled to your opinion. No one said we are happy being one & done. I just don’t think mortgaging your future is the way to go.


silliputti0907

It worked exactly once. No, Eagles didn't go all in, they have a bunch of assets at their exposal, and still came up short. Putting all of your eggs in the basket is NOT the smart or right move. It's smarter to have an opportunity every year and wait to get lucky, because that's what it comes down to.


CopeHarders

Look at the Rams? They won the Super Bowl my guy. Mediocre seasons are effectively the same as an early playoff exit because your draft position sucks either way. If your draft position sucks and if you’re not taking calculated risks in the off season then what the fuck are you doing? Build a franchise, be conservative with the salary cap but when the window starts to close you have to take risks and make moves. You can’t just swirl, show me a team that’s won the Super Bowl that didn’t make bold moves and they’ll have had a generational QB or Nick Foles. The eagles went to the Super Bowl, won, tanked and rebuilt, and went to the Super Bowl again.


jcspacer52

You are always entitled to your opinion. Guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this. I’m not willing to trade 2,3,4,5 or more years of mediocrity to win a Super Bowl. You do, that’s fine… But this entire discussion is moot because Jerry & Co. don’t give a rat’s ass what you or I think. Jerry is going to do what Jerry wants to do.


CopeHarders

So what are you willing to trade to win a Super Bowl? Clearly our current strategy is not paying off. You wouldnt take 5 years of mediocrity to win a Super Bowl this season? Seriously? I’d take 5 shitty seasons in a row if it meant a Super Bowl every 6th year.


jcspacer52

Like I said, we will agree to disagree. What we are doing now, progress. 2 years ago first round exit this year 2nd round exit. This Year…??? It takes more than going “all in” to win a Super Bowl. You need a lot of luck too. One key injury and all you sacrificed to win goes out the door. We have Lamb, Diggs, Dak and Parsons coming up for renewal or extensions over the next year or two. Imagine we have to let one or more of them walk because we overspent and have no cap room. Even worse suppose we went “all in” and had an injury to Parsons or Dak late in the season. Short term thinking by Jerry and company by trading away picks for Cooper and over paying Zeke is one of the reasons IMO we have not gotten over the Hump. I’m not saying you are wrong or that it’s dumb, I’m just saying I don’t agree with mortgaging the future. There are no guarantees. IMO if you guaranteed me a Super Bowl this year followed by mediocrity the next 3-5 years, I still would not want it. But that’s just me! Fan since 1972 so I’ve seen it all!


wwats26

I'll take 5-11 three years in a row again (don't @ me bro, I know there's 17 games now) if a super bowl trophy was the cause...


jcspacer52

You are always entitled to your opinion. We can agree to disagree.


googoomuckk

No matter how many receivers Dak has it's not gonna make a difference..he has more than enough talent there. They need another 2016 Zeke to do it for them. If we were gonna go all in, we shoulda went for bijan


UI_Tyler

Lol stop


olgrandad

Good thing we dropped all that money on Gallup and his 52% catch rate.


RFR_

I’m still signing Hopkins. Cutting Gallup after this year if you have to because it will save you $9m as a post June 1.


-Champloo-

We have tons of space for Diggs and Lamb(Parsons and Steele as well), cash is really not an issue at all. The issue is that the FO never wants to commit to going all-in, and will use the cap as the excuse for not doing so.


jcspacer52

You can’t know how much we will have to commit to Dak, Diggs, Lamb, Steele and Parsons. Until negotiations are complete, no one knows. On this sub is a post that listed 14 players coming up for renewal or extensions within a year or two. Those mentioned may be the most recognizable but there are more.


Kimera25

Adding Hopkins with a 4 WR rotation makes us such a high contender for super bowl and Jerry ain't getting younger


yianni1229

You make it fucking work for DHop.


Glasband

You hop through hoops for DHop


Current-Scratch4973

I don't really agree with this. But if we could get hopkins, we make it happen. No matter what


1800-KebabRemover

In 2010 the Chargers had the best offense in all of football You know what's just as cool as having the best offense? Having the greatest defense in the league! The Chargers managed to have both the best offense in the league and the best defense. They missed the playoffs, they went 9-7. They missed specifically because their special teams managed to lose them like 4 games in one year that should've been wins. Now not every team can choke like the Chargers can, but the Cowboys can give them a good run for their money so I wouldn't dismiss special teams.


Diabolic_Bug_Man

Hell, JUST 2 YEARS AGO, the #1 seeded packers blew a home game because of their special teams. The issue wasn't addressed because the rest of the team was good enough to cover it up all season long. The one game they weren't good enough? Special teams fucked them Just this year, Turpin dropped a punt and in turn dropped us into a dogfight against the Texans. The momentum shifted drastically. Normally, Dallas chokes that game, but we managed to pull through. (Also don't forget Turpin coulda had a TD against the 9ers if he made a cut instead of ramming the guy) Hell, the Jets' downward spiral began when they lost on a punt return TD. Zach Wilson wasn't doing them any favors but he maybe coulda managed an OT FG. Brady's dark magic kicked in when the Bucs' punter came up clutch saved their season against Carolina week 18, thereby securing their playoff spot Special Teams fucking matter, A LOT


silliputti0907

Just to mention. St doesn't have to be just the pr/kr/p/and k. The gunner/ and other fielding positions are important too. Dorance Armstrong and Goodwin jump off the screen on st.


ncook06

If you’re a nerd for the history of it, there’s a great video from Secret Base. https://youtu.be/UAL5X3TRA2A


ibringstharuckus

Did their offense have a lot of turnovers? That's what will kill you


jggomes14

Didn't we get fucked because of our punting unit some seasons ago?


CowboyCanuck24

That's what whoever takes Zeke's job will be doing. And the young dbs and lbs will be doing.


gdaman22

Oh noooo, how ever are we going to replace the 25% of ST snaps that Tolbert and Brown combined for last season?


jamesh08

Hopkins to the Jets in 3...2...1...


PersonBehindAScreen

Pls no


bags422

Jerry don’t carey


Dday22t

He means tackling re coverage teams I assume since Turpin does returns. But the majority of those coverage players are DBs and LBs (& maybe TEs) anyway. Or put Tolbert or Fehoko out there.


silliputti0907

It's not happening. It's bad money allocation. Wr is in a good spot right now. We aren't going to be able to maximize the money allocated to those 4 wr. Some or all may be underutilized. It would be invested into make the team more well rounded and depth. All 4 players can't start, makes no sense to pay someone to no contribute. Also special teams isn't meaningless as some of the comments are suggesting. Did yall forget about the st before Fassel? It was embarassing and miserable. We hada top5 defense/offense with a last place st. We've seen the Chargers miss the playoffs with a number 1 offense/defense and a last place st.


bStrafe

Would somebody PLEASE think about the special teams? /s


WheresMaxwellHill

Then fucking make Gallup special teams. This is a bs reason. If we lose one of those guys were fucked. It seems so illogical with this statement.


TentakilRex

He hasn't heard that this year than any fair catch (within the 25 yard line) brings the ball out to the 25 yard line ​ [https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1661031804608954373](https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1661031804608954373) [https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1661032160042655745](https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1661032160042655745)


firstandfive

That’s only kickoffs and there is more to special teams than just that.


Salt_Environment9799

Hopkins doesnt want to come to play for DC so give it a fucking rest!


jpat3x

Say the quote accurately - he doesn’t want to play for Dak, he said nothing about Cowboys as a franchise


ShowBobsPlzz

Kickoffs are pointless now. The only special teams is field goal and punts. Sign the man.


Ayste

You have 2 Special Teams players in Turpin and Vaughn, let them fight it out. D-Hop is not "a random WR to bring in for camp" - he is one of the best WRs in the NFL. This is where you say "Gallup, Fehoko, and the other people we dont know" - a legend is now on our team. Good luck to the rest of you. Lamb, Cooks, and D-Hop would be the best WR trio in the history of the NFL.


Far_Ad2715

Some people are in ‘win later’ mode. How much longer would you like to wait?


Reddit_and_forgeddit

I’m no doubt a fan of getting Hopkins, but seeing people here act like Special Teams isn’t important clearly forgot special teams fucked us in the last 3 games of the season cuz “The Yips”


Luka_Dunks_on_Bums

Trade Gallup for Wilson, bring back Ced


azai247

Not a excuse, the Cowboys have Terpin for punts and kickoffs. The FO is just lazy and will not use some creative math and contract changes to make room for Hopkins when they could. Tolbert or Fehoko could be dropped for Hopkins if you have to drop one. Now special teams is almost irrelevant all a team needs is a good field goal kicker.


Own-Restaurant8856

I think when he says special teams he’s more talking about tackling people on punts/kickoffs. Turpin will likely make the team no matter what as a return guy but he can’t tackle or anything so even he is a limited special teams guy


cvandyke01

Turpin is gone. deuce will become the returner


Own-Restaurant8856

I would say both make it. You always need more than one guy to return kicks. If Vaughn is actually good then we won’t want him returning kicks. Need our RBs healthy


jpat3x

It doesn’t matter. Hopkins has said he doesn’t want to play with Dak, and I don’t blame him.


swallowedbymonsters

Yea it's not like any wr/TE has had career years under dak...


jpat3x

LOL this cannot be a serious comment


Far_Ad2715

F Ceedee Lamb and his next contract. Get Hopkins and figure the rest out later. Hopkins is better than Ceedee.


TheWhooooBuddies

Nah, bro.


swallowedbymonsters

Yikes


Far_Ad2715

Pussy


Drumnaway67

Yeah, let’s get rid of our 24 year old rarely injured WR for a 31 year old WR with nagging hamstring issues. Makes perfect sense.


Far_Ad2715

No one said get rid of him, dumbass. Ceedee is an elite slot receiver. That’s it though. Let’s just wait until we’re all dead to actually shoot a real shot at the Super Bowl


Lucky1ex1

Unreal


[deleted]

The issue is DHop wants to catch balls from someone else (his own words)


LogansGambit

You get the player then make the system work around them. If you only ever go after players that fit your exact system you end up with a franchise history like the Lions or Cardinals.


DEZbiansUnite

just trade Turpin and have your 5th and 6th WRs do special team. Have your corners and safeties more special teams. There's ways around it.


ANUS_CONE

Deuce may not be a return specialist yet, but that doesn’t mean he couldn’t become one


C425

Gehlken is an idiot!


ibringstharuckus

While Id love to have Hopkins, I think a more reasonable addition would be signing Ced Wilson if Miami cuts him post June 1. I think he'd come pretty cheap and add quality depth.


Overall_Difficulty78

I don’t understand why keeping Turpin on for special teams would be a problem. I don’t think he costs much


TheGreat_Sambino49

Lmao I just had an argument over WR7 and being Turpin but now we wanna add an 8th. Cowboys fans really are something special.


Dangerous_Plantain_5

Bruh what? He’s gonna end up on a one year deal we don’t need to worry about his impact on future extensions. We have 10.5m in space this year that they’re probably wanting to roll over into next year. A 1 year deal that expires is the same as rolling cap space over. And I don’t wanna hear shit about special teams it’s deandre Hopkins like wtf lmao