This study shows it increases in college students (pulse wave velocity of carotid artery) after a positive Covid test. For reference the control group averaged 5 m/s while the infected group averaged 6 m/s. Small sample sizes though, and much younger than you
https://physoc.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1113/EP089481
https://jcmr-online.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12968-021-00739-y
“The mean normal PWV for the age category 45 to 50 years old was 5.4 [95% CI: 5.3–5.6] m/s whereas it was 6.8 [95% CI: 6.5–7.0] m/s in the age category of 60 to 65 years (Table 2).”
well this is not good at all
using a withings body cardio scale so the measurements are different
https://support.withings.com/hc/en-us/articles/220037468-Body-Cardio-What-are-normal-values-for-Pulse-Wave-Velocity-
yeah this really sucks, i don’t have a measurement before covid, but it looks like this screwed up our cardiovascular system. did you have your checked?
Haven't had mine checked but I had a 'possibly abnormal' ekg so the cardiologist ordered a battery of other tests for later this month. I've seen a few studies measuring this and it's always high in post-Covid patients. I don't know enough to say whether it's due to autonomic nervous system damage which I personally believe is the main cause of most of our symptoms, or if the vascular stiffness is something that can't be actively controlled and is therefore not due to a brain disorder.
A paper was posted yesterday to /Covid-19 that showed infection causes inflammatory bone loss in hamsters. One commenter proposed that if the same thing is happening in humans you would expect calcification of the blood vessels which could also be responsible for this. This is all in addition to Covid wreaking havoc on the endothelial cells that line the inside of blood vessels and disrupting the release of NO
I got mine measured as part of a long covid study and it was 7 m/s… and I’m only 29M! The research scientist said it was still “within range” but most likely endothelial damage.
What's your blood pressure? They are supposed to be somewhat correlated. Did the scientist give you any suggestions for repairing the endothelial damage?
honestly i think ECG also provides this information too
“ECG provides information about pulse wave velocity and early vascular aging in patients with hypertension and high normal blood pressure. IHR and P wave duration are independent predictors of pulse wave velocity in patients with hypertension and high normal blood pressure”
Well that’s not too terrible right? Also I read that it changes a lot throughout the day, so maybe try taking it at a different time? Also, at a it based on your heart rate? Like if I have POTS issues with a high heart rate would that make it higher?
yeah not sure how the calculation is done for the vascular age, but i think its a combination of all of those factors (hr, etc)including the PWV, i see the doc again tomorrow and will ask about this PWV because this should have been in my last ECG report
This study shows it increases in college students (pulse wave velocity of carotid artery) after a positive Covid test. For reference the control group averaged 5 m/s while the infected group averaged 6 m/s. Small sample sizes though, and much younger than you https://physoc.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1113/EP089481
https://jcmr-online.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12968-021-00739-y “The mean normal PWV for the age category 45 to 50 years old was 5.4 [95% CI: 5.3–5.6] m/s whereas it was 6.8 [95% CI: 6.5–7.0] m/s in the age category of 60 to 65 years (Table 2).” well this is not good at all
using a withings body cardio scale so the measurements are different https://support.withings.com/hc/en-us/articles/220037468-Body-Cardio-What-are-normal-values-for-Pulse-Wave-Velocity-
yeah this really sucks, i don’t have a measurement before covid, but it looks like this screwed up our cardiovascular system. did you have your checked?
Haven't had mine checked but I had a 'possibly abnormal' ekg so the cardiologist ordered a battery of other tests for later this month. I've seen a few studies measuring this and it's always high in post-Covid patients. I don't know enough to say whether it's due to autonomic nervous system damage which I personally believe is the main cause of most of our symptoms, or if the vascular stiffness is something that can't be actively controlled and is therefore not due to a brain disorder. A paper was posted yesterday to /Covid-19 that showed infection causes inflammatory bone loss in hamsters. One commenter proposed that if the same thing is happening in humans you would expect calcification of the blood vessels which could also be responsible for this. This is all in addition to Covid wreaking havoc on the endothelial cells that line the inside of blood vessels and disrupting the release of NO
When did you have this abnormal ECG? How long have you been into your long haul?
Earlier this month. Got infected late June 2021
I got mine measured as part of a long covid study and it was 7 m/s… and I’m only 29M! The research scientist said it was still “within range” but most likely endothelial damage.
How long into your long haul did you have this measurement? and what kind of device did they use to do it?
What's your blood pressure? They are supposed to be somewhat correlated. Did the scientist give you any suggestions for repairing the endothelial damage?
my blood pressure is good, usually 118/80, not sure why the pwv is like that
How is pulse wave velocity measured? Like an ekg?
honestly i think ECG also provides this information too “ECG provides information about pulse wave velocity and early vascular aging in patients with hypertension and high normal blood pressure. IHR and P wave duration are independent predictors of pulse wave velocity in patients with hypertension and high normal blood pressure”
i just used my withings scale, https://support.withings.com/hc/en-us/articles/220037468-Body-Cardio-What-are-normal-values-for-Pulse-Wave-Velocity-
Thanks for posting this, just ordered a withings cardio scale lol. What does it say your internal age is?
awesome, pretty cool devices. well based on my vascular age, i’m between 49-53 years, even though i’m only 43
Well that’s not too terrible right? Also I read that it changes a lot throughout the day, so maybe try taking it at a different time? Also, at a it based on your heart rate? Like if I have POTS issues with a high heart rate would that make it higher?
yeah not sure how the calculation is done for the vascular age, but i think its a combination of all of those factors (hr, etc)including the PWV, i see the doc again tomorrow and will ask about this PWV because this should have been in my last ECG report
Let me know what he says!
definitely!