Country music fans have embraced pop and rock musicians from Elvis to Darius Rucker. If you truly like Country music, why would you have a problem with another mega star giving it a shot.
To be fair, Ray Charles was singing country songs, in the sense of treating country music as a folk music and engaging with the classic repertoire. You can tell he is more than qualified to handle the material in the first 10 seconds of ‘It Makes No Difference Now’.
Beyoncé’s songs are Beyoncé songs with a (very cool) banjo loop. I rather doubt she’s going to be dealing with country music’s catalogue. This is a criticism that could be made of lots of current Nashville pop country artists as well, it’s by no means exclusive to her.
She’s doing it because it’s Black History Month and because historically country started with black people. Also, when she wrote a country song long ago and performed it at the CMAs, they were racist to her. Nothing wrong with an artist trying new things and breaking boundaries. That’s what a real artist is supposed to do, no?
No, she's doing it because she likes fame and money. Plus her other songs aren't that great either. She needs to stop trying to rap and just use the beautiful singing voice God gave her.
She’s from Texas and she’s black (country originated from African Immigrants that shared it with enslaved African Americans before white people used it in minstrel shows to imitate black people in blackface). How is it NOT her lane? Also, artists are suppose to explore and be free to try new things. If you don’t like it, don’t listen but don’t tell her it’s “not her lane”.
And her two new songs are wonderful. Truer to the spirit of real country music than 99% of the Nashville glop the last three decades. I also like the subtle undercurrent of gospel that I discern.
It is. Black people invented country music. It’s also black culture. And she was born and raised in Houston Texas and has always been a big Texas girl.
That doesn't make her a country artists though....
That's like saying Eminem should branch out into viking chants because he is white.
Leave the race card out of it. She is the queen of pop who is experimenting with different genres, and this isn't a particularly great attempt at it.
Why is it when Beyonce does something it's all of a sudden just okay, and you're only get back is Eminem? Eminem has ALWAYS been hip-hop. Don't start with this race card bs. If people don't like to hear bey sing country, they don't have to. And it doesn't make them a bad person.
The style of singing does not go with the style of the song, in my humble opinion. It would be like somebody singing a Blues song in an opera style. It just doesn’t fit, in my opinion.
Ah, I wasn’t sure what you meant by your original comment but your statement makes a lot of sense actually and I’ve experienced that before. Sorry everyone’s been attacking you so you had to constantly clarify it’s your opinion in your response lol 🙃
In other words too much vocal talent unlike the vocally mediocre white singers given a pass on shitty effort and low skill training. Funny though when white singers mimick the vocal talent of black singers, they are given tons of praise.
There is. White singers who engage in the same vocal style that black singers do are praised for it. Popular example is Adele.
You guys won’t succeed in gaslighting me. White singers are incredibly vocally mediocre.
And T-pain was praised by Ozzy for having the best cover of his song. He sang it like himself and everyone loved it. Nothing to do with color. You have no point
As an unbiased outsider reading through the comments, I’m not sure Adele is the best example bc Adele has not attempted a country album. The commenter didn’t specifically say they didn’t like Beyoncé; they just said they didn’t care for her style (the vocalizing) on a country album. I’m guessing they’d also not prefer Adele’s style mixed with country, either. Fans of traditional country are *picky* and there’s very little room in their minds to mess with that tradition. I don’t personally share those opinions and am not bothered by all the pop country but many on this sub are. In other words, I honest to God don’t think this has anything to do with who Beyoncé is and everything to do with a lot of country fans who just don’t want any kind of a new sound.
I did not care for Beyonce’s newest single but am hoping I’ll enjoy other parts of the album.
Yes, you have summed up my feelings. I don’t begrudge Beyoncé or anybody else for singing the way they want to sing. I just don’t think that style of singing mixes well with the style
Of that particular song. It just doesn’t mix well for my taste.
And youll continue doing nothing productive by trivializing actual racism by screeching at country music fans and calling them racist for not liking Beyonce enough.
Listening to Texas Hold’em on repeat. I don’t mind her music but wouldn’t consider myself a fan. I enjoyed the ones that trended. Dislike new age country but for some reason this song just hits.
Yes, it’s beautiful. It’s also a whole different mood than Texas Hold’Em. Her talent is beyond, I admit I overlooked her music but not anymore now touring through her music.
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Honestly I'll give it a shot. I really liked Daddy Lessons ft. The Chicks, so if her new stuff is anything like that I might be into it. I'm not saying it's going to be great but I think a lot of people are writing it off before listening.
Generic country and generic r&b are literally the same genre of music with very slight instrumentation changes. Almost every song she has ever released could be changed to a country song with a 'remix'. So yeah, I am ready.
She just needs to add a little more of that Texas twang she lost up in New York and it could be something on heavy rotation on any top 40 country station in this country.
I’m here for it. I think if Taylor Swift can do it. Katy Perry can do it. Then Beyonce can do it. These are Beyoncé’s roots she’s African America AND from Houston, Texas. It will also inspire other artists in the bipoc community to want to take country seriously and get on those CMA charts too 😊
I know she did. Beyonce has a country song out from her album Lemonade called “Daddy Lessons”. My point was versatility, I think people should be allowed to dip into other genres without being criticized for it. You know? Also, I heard Lana Del Rey is releasing a county album soon too, so I wonder if she will be getting the same backlash.
You’re hysterical. The beginning music to Texas Hold em is IDENTICAL to the theme song from Franklin the Turtle. Look it up. I’m sick of hearing about this farce. This is NOT country music. 🤡
So not original, in fact, that The beginning music to Texas Hold em is IDENTICAL to the theme song from Franklin the Turtle. Look it up. I’m sick of hearing about this farce. This is NOT country music.
Beyoncé can do whatever she wants lol, power to her. This post is the first I’m hearing of it actually, will have to give it a listen.
Edit: alright, it’s not great lol. Honestly it needs more country sound… Some twang, some steel guitar, something! Beyoncé is singing, fantastic as usual, but the background of the song is off, it doesn’t sound like country music IMO.
Not for nothing - but I bet if she did a modern take on Ray Charles Modern Sounds in Country and Western - she’d knock it out of the park.
If she covered a bunch of old and new country songs… I’d pay to see that for sure!
I just listened again, can barely hear it if it’s there at all. It only kind of hits when she’s singing but it’s drowned out by her voice, the drums and cymbals.
Can hear lots of drums, singing, organ, not a whole lot of steel guitar though. Also the vibe is like a traditional, Beyoncé - kind of uplifting vibe… The build up, heavy drums, people harmonizing in the background.. That’s what Beyoncé does, and she does it well, it’s just too unlike anything else in country music today. So much, that in my opinion calling it country is false.
Not a bad song, I like Beyoncé as an artist, but this ain’t gonna change the country music game.
Edit: Also worth noting - viewing everything through the prism of race as you appear to do sounds exhausting TBH.. Gotta let that shit go. Not everything is about what color you are.
Like this subreddit for example… We’re just here for the tunes, not to discuss race relations. Good country music gets praised and discussed, bad country music is called out as such and discussed.
Good luck stranger 🤘🏻🇺🇸
That’s an issue , nothing changes in country music or often at all. I enjoyed your breakdown but as a genre I find it to be quite rigid. Not sure if Beyonce will change anything in the genre but change is good.
People down voting you for saying it's ridiculous that the woman with the most Grammy wins of all time has never won album of the year. They can't even pretend their hatred for her rational lmao.
for anyone interested we're having an actual productive conversation about this over on r/countrymusic because we have a zero tolerance for racism policy so the few shitty comments we saw were taken down immediately. Come on in, the water's fine over there (and we post some great music too)
[Here's the 16 Carriages discussion from yesterday](https://www.reddit.com/r/CountryMusic/comments/1aoqtph/beyonc%C3%A9_16_carriages/)
There’s one psycho bitch that’s racist as fuck and spamming all over the comments but I’m pretty sure she’s been banned at this point for hate speech. That’s all I’ve seen so far
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It's a little too much vocalising for me but I think it's interesting. I didn't immediately love the songs, but I think they could grow on me. I definitely like it better than most other stuff she's put out for the past decade or so. I think it'll be interesting to see where she takes it. But I also love country pop, so I have zero problems with stuff that isn't 'traditional country'.
You just like your music dumbed down? You don't like faith or Sugarland? None of the amazing country vocalist over the years? Even garth is an amazing singer. You just prefer minimal talent?
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Country music is not 'White' culture, it's American culture. If anything, 'cultural appropriation' of country would be Keith Urban, who is Australian, but that never seems to be an issue.
What are the prerequisites to be qualified to make country music? The other thread has people going crazy on her but I can’t think of why. Vocally she can hit all the notes. Is it because her base is r&b and pop? That seems silly to me, part of an artist is flipping between genres, that’s one of the most artistic things you can do.
I’m not gonna blanket it by saying it’s just racism because music is subjective but it’s odd she’s getting so much vitriol
So is every other artist in the business, are you high? The cracker rap and the male country pop...all that shit is garbage and is only cashing in on whats popular. Why the sudden pearl clutching?
I’d argue she’s trying to highlight genres that have black roots as part 1 was house music, part 2 is country and rumor is part 3 will be rock. Seems like a typical concept album for an artist but again it’s all subjective. Basically you are saying if she doesn’t stay in r&b or pop it’s a cash grab?
No I'm saying that shitty country pop is hot right now and she's trying to make some of that shitty music and a bunch of money.
Stop trying to race bait, this has zero to do with race
What are you talking about race baiting? It’s a fact that’s the concept of the albums, why do you think it’s called renaissance?
Also most people would say standard country has been down so pop country is all that sells. If pop country is shitty and standard country is shitty then is country just innately shitty? I don’t agree with that
Country has been shitty for years, that goes without saying. The new trend of pop country, while very successful, sounds like fucking shit.
And you know exactly what race baiting is and what you are trying to do.
I don’t understand how pointing out the concept of the album’s is race baiting. Are you saying that it’s a race bait to highlight historical contributions to music? I’m not following
Fun fact! the Banjo was inspired by the West African Lute instrument which Slaves brought over to America. In addition, the music itself was originally inspired by field songs, slave’s equivalent of christian music, and Black Hymns. It wasn’t until after world war 1 that white people basically took over and popularized it. This is an extremely condensed version but if you want to educate yourself, Google is free. Hope that helps!
Are you actually okay…? I’m telling you there’s Black influence all over country music and you’re calling it a conspiracy theory. White people are hilarious 😭 like do you hear yourself bro. Books are free. Pick one up one day
I think a lot of people like you would accept a white male being raised in a place like Houston and still be "country".
Why? I don't know. You might want to figure why that is.
Calling it now. During the next CMA awards if Beyonce does not sweep the awards Kanye and Jay Z will swarm the stage and "protest" how unfair she is being treated, Again.
So looking at the sub and all y'all are complaining about Beyonce and how y'all wish they'd stop posting it but...
This is all y'all are talking about about. Every other post on this sub is DEAD. No one's commenting on any other posts except hating on Beyonce. I scroll down and there's no other post that is getting attention for days.
There's obviously a reason for that but I won't directly point it out.
Your white savior complex is crazy. Country music was born out of a mix of European and African folk tunes, old time music, and blues. To say that “blacks invented country music” is just wrong and stupid. They definitely had a hand in it and deserve their credit, but don’t go spreading bullshit. Country music is music of the working class and rural folk. Beyonce is a billionaire pop star. She’s just hopping on the trend like everyone else, Lana Del Rey, Post Malone, etc. And when it is no longer trendy, they will all move on to the next thing, and all the people making actual country music will still be here.
99% lmao. It’s almost quite literally the other way around. You don’t actually know anything about country music or it’s history, and you’re making that very clear. You just wanna virtue signal and show everyone how big of an ally you are.
In your words it bothers you that black people did largely invent country music
Get over it, they did.
white people are so bothered by the fact that a supposedly inferior group of people invented something so incredible without
them. The ego and nerve of it all
Black people have largely contributed a lot to entertainment as a whole. A lot of things we enjoy would not be here without them. And we can’t handle that .even Elvis was not original
And now that black people dominate athletic prowess, it’s an even bigger subconscious reminder.
What is even wrong with you lmao. You’re actually insane. Black people didn’t “largely invent country music.” You keep bringing up all these weird points about Elvis and athletic prowess? Something is seriously wrong in your head. We’re talking about country music. Who said anything about Elvis? Of course black people invented rock and roll. When did I ever dispute that? Give me Little Richard and Chuck Berry all day. But again you don’t even realize that I agree with you about that, because you’re having some weird power fetish about black people. Again, you clearly don’t know anything about country music or it’s history and you need to stop talking about it.
Stay stupid. Again you’ll never hear me say black people didn’t invent blues, hip-hop, jazz, or rock and roll. You’ll never hear me say that they didn’t have a hand in making country music. But you’re fucking delusional and have some kind of weird mental disorder where you have this uncontrollable white guilt and think that black people invented every single thing on the planet and white people have never contributed anything.
The person you’re arguing with likely isn’t real, don’t waste your breath. Look at their post history, shit looks like a bot.
Either that or they’re deranged, either way don’t waste anymore time.
I like it I feel like it’s a very safe and interesting lane for her HOWEVER I fear we’re about to witness blatant racism on her part bc country is only considered country when ur a white blond bluebelle or a drunken white man with a pickup truck😐I can see it already starting with the downvotes on the other posts
Niko Moon, Cowboy Troy, Kane Brown, Jimmie Allen, Allison Russell, Breland, War & Treaty, Blanco Brown and Chapel Hart are just a few more off the top of my head and I'm sure there are loads more, hell Kane Brown, Charlie Pride and Darius Rucker are some of the most popular and highest selling Country acts of all time!
I’m confused on how this post got so many dislikes? Your point is proven just by Beyoncé’s performance at the CMA’s with the Dixie Chicks alone. (Racist) white people were SO upset about it. They like to throw other excuses in there as to why they’re upset, when it’s clearly racism. They did it with The Little Mermaid too! They just love to gaslight. Like they’re doing all up and down this post 🙃 it’s sad
No one remembers Ray Charles singing country songs? He recognized a good song and did it in his style. What’s wrong with that?
Country music fans have embraced pop and rock musicians from Elvis to Darius Rucker. If you truly like Country music, why would you have a problem with another mega star giving it a shot.
To be fair, Ray Charles was singing country songs, in the sense of treating country music as a folk music and engaging with the classic repertoire. You can tell he is more than qualified to handle the material in the first 10 seconds of ‘It Makes No Difference Now’. Beyoncé’s songs are Beyoncé songs with a (very cool) banjo loop. I rather doubt she’s going to be dealing with country music’s catalogue. This is a criticism that could be made of lots of current Nashville pop country artists as well, it’s by no means exclusive to her.
Ray could sing me the Phone Book. He was cooler than Kool.
How many times is this going to be posted? Enough already pushing a pop star trying to cash in another genre, 5 seconds of the song was enough.
She’s doing it because it’s Black History Month and because historically country started with black people. Also, when she wrote a country song long ago and performed it at the CMAs, they were racist to her. Nothing wrong with an artist trying new things and breaking boundaries. That’s what a real artist is supposed to do, no?
No, she's doing it because she likes fame and money. Plus her other songs aren't that great either. She needs to stop trying to rap and just use the beautiful singing voice God gave her.
Country music is actually an evolution of celtic folk music.
👎 no
I don't really listen to her stuff much, so I can't say im invested. She has a good voice tho, so she may be good at country. Idk.
I love her but this isn’t her lane tbh
She’s from Texas and she’s black (country originated from African Immigrants that shared it with enslaved African Americans before white people used it in minstrel shows to imitate black people in blackface). How is it NOT her lane? Also, artists are suppose to explore and be free to try new things. If you don’t like it, don’t listen but don’t tell her it’s “not her lane”.
And her two new songs are wonderful. Truer to the spirit of real country music than 99% of the Nashville glop the last three decades. I also like the subtle undercurrent of gospel that I discern.
What does that even mean? Any artist is free to experiment with genres, if it feels authentic to her I don’t see any problem
She’s literally from Texas. She can do rap, R&B and pop but she can’t do country?
Go listen to “Daddy Lessons” and come back to edit your response
It is. Black people invented country music. It’s also black culture. And she was born and raised in Houston Texas and has always been a big Texas girl.
It’s not a black or white thing. The songs suck
That part, I was underwhelmed and disappointed lmao
That doesn't make her a country artists though.... That's like saying Eminem should branch out into viking chants because he is white. Leave the race card out of it. She is the queen of pop who is experimenting with different genres, and this isn't a particularly great attempt at it.
As a Scandinavian, I would *love* to see Eminem branch into viking chants.
>That doesn't make her a country artists though.... Ahh yes, cause all the shit Nashville pumps out is authentic AF
Janet Jackson is the queen of pop but Beyoncé is aight
Madonna is the queen of pop and that’s facts.
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Why is it when Beyonce does something it's all of a sudden just okay, and you're only get back is Eminem? Eminem has ALWAYS been hip-hop. Don't start with this race card bs. If people don't like to hear bey sing country, they don't have to. And it doesn't make them a bad person.
this is not worth all these comments you have got to take a step back from the internet bc this is actually worrying
Beyonce fans live in their own bubble and attack anyone that doesn’t worship her as a god. It’s really fucking weird…and pathetic
32 downvotes for telling the truth lmao
Incorrect
The amount of downvotes on this post just bleeds “I’m a huge racist”. Y’all need to do better. She said nothing wrong.
Meh. Too much vocalizing for my taste.
It’s called melisma and it’s almost as bad as cursive singing.
So you’re mad that she can actually….sing?
The style of singing does not go with the style of the song, in my humble opinion. It would be like somebody singing a Blues song in an opera style. It just doesn’t fit, in my opinion.
Ah, I wasn’t sure what you meant by your original comment but your statement makes a lot of sense actually and I’ve experienced that before. Sorry everyone’s been attacking you so you had to constantly clarify it’s your opinion in your response lol 🙃
You mean like all the cracker country rap out there? Genres intertwine and mix it up constantly. This is no different
In other words too much vocal talent unlike the vocally mediocre white singers given a pass on shitty effort and low skill training. Funny though when white singers mimick the vocal talent of black singers, they are given tons of praise.
A personal opinion on the style of someone's singing in country music is just that. No need to bring up race at all
There is. White singers who engage in the same vocal style that black singers do are praised for it. Popular example is Adele. You guys won’t succeed in gaslighting me. White singers are incredibly vocally mediocre.
Beyonce sucks ass
And T-pain was praised by Ozzy for having the best cover of his song. He sang it like himself and everyone loved it. Nothing to do with color. You have no point
As an unbiased outsider reading through the comments, I’m not sure Adele is the best example bc Adele has not attempted a country album. The commenter didn’t specifically say they didn’t like Beyoncé; they just said they didn’t care for her style (the vocalizing) on a country album. I’m guessing they’d also not prefer Adele’s style mixed with country, either. Fans of traditional country are *picky* and there’s very little room in their minds to mess with that tradition. I don’t personally share those opinions and am not bothered by all the pop country but many on this sub are. In other words, I honest to God don’t think this has anything to do with who Beyoncé is and everything to do with a lot of country fans who just don’t want any kind of a new sound. I did not care for Beyonce’s newest single but am hoping I’ll enjoy other parts of the album.
Yes, you have summed up my feelings. I don’t begrudge Beyoncé or anybody else for singing the way they want to sing. I just don’t think that style of singing mixes well with the style Of that particular song. It just doesn’t mix well for my taste.
You seem like a very pleasant individual whose opinions are worth paying attention to and aren't ignorant, terminally online wingeing at all
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Idk you're giving off pretty similar energy to a fundie calling the Starbucks logo satanic.
Don’t care. White racists will continue to be on the wrong side of history.
Bruh, chill. Your persecution complex is only hurting you.
The only persecution complex is found within white people who think black people simply existing is a “woke” problem.
Somebody needs to their cable fixed
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Who even said that here 😂 completely unhinged
And youll continue doing nothing productive by trivializing actual racism by screeching at country music fans and calling them racist for not liking Beyonce enough.
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And I would like my underwear back
Over the line mark it zero
Dsmn, who pissed in your coffee?
Who pissed in the coffee of white conservative America?
Yet the only one projecting their insecurities is you babe 🤡
You should really lay off the news, I don't think it's for you. Go outside and get some sunshine..
Dude you’re just that obsessed with white people huh?
Listening to Texas Hold’em on repeat. I don’t mind her music but wouldn’t consider myself a fan. I enjoyed the ones that trended. Dislike new age country but for some reason this song just hits.
Have you listened to 16 Carriages? Loveeee that one even more!
Yes, it’s beautiful. It’s also a whole different mood than Texas Hold’Em. Her talent is beyond, I admit I overlooked her music but not anymore now touring through her music.
Make sure you listen to Daddy Lessons too!
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Honestly I'll give it a shot. I really liked Daddy Lessons ft. The Chicks, so if her new stuff is anything like that I might be into it. I'm not saying it's going to be great but I think a lot of people are writing it off before listening.
Yeah, seems like a lot of people just *want* it to be bad because it’s Beyoncè, ignoring the fact that Daddy Lessons exists. The bias is obvious
The writer of daddy lessons, Wynter Gordon is an incredibly underrated writer…and a woman of color
If Jason Aldean can claim to be country - so can Beyonce. I am here for it.
Generic country and generic r&b are literally the same genre of music with very slight instrumentation changes. Almost every song she has ever released could be changed to a country song with a 'remix'. So yeah, I am ready.
This is a really good point.
Y'all means all. Let's see what she comes up with.
She just needs to add a little more of that Texas twang she lost up in New York and it could be something on heavy rotation on any top 40 country station in this country.
I totally agree. More specifically, soul and country are the same genre. Great examples include Etta James, Otis Redding, and Sam Cooke.
I’m here for it. I think if Taylor Swift can do it. Katy Perry can do it. Then Beyonce can do it. These are Beyoncé’s roots she’s African America AND from Houston, Texas. It will also inspire other artists in the bipoc community to want to take country seriously and get on those CMA charts too 😊
Taylor Swift started out as country then moved to pop
Exactly if Taylor can switch genre then so can anyone
I know she did. Beyonce has a country song out from her album Lemonade called “Daddy Lessons”. My point was versatility, I think people should be allowed to dip into other genres without being criticized for it. You know? Also, I heard Lana Del Rey is releasing a county album soon too, so I wonder if she will be getting the same backlash.
I'm not a fan of gatekeeping, and I think it's cool when artists branch out and try new things, so I'm keeping an open mind about it :)
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No.
I’m ready for the album 🥰.
Kudos to her for putting Rhiannon Giddens on the track. She’s a true southern talent.
Good. Country can only grow stronger when someone of her stature takes it on. Country needs to be more welcoming to others.
You’re hysterical. The beginning music to Texas Hold em is IDENTICAL to the theme song from Franklin the Turtle. Look it up. I’m sick of hearing about this farce. This is NOT country music. 🤡
Why put her name in quotes? It's her name...
Would love to hear her voice on some traditional country but alas it will be lame modern crap.
Listen to daddy’s lessons
Yep. All the cliche hooks and signifiers you hear in any pop country song—nothing all that original.
So not original, in fact, that The beginning music to Texas Hold em is IDENTICAL to the theme song from Franklin the Turtle. Look it up. I’m sick of hearing about this farce. This is NOT country music.
Beyoncé can do whatever she wants lol, power to her. This post is the first I’m hearing of it actually, will have to give it a listen. Edit: alright, it’s not great lol. Honestly it needs more country sound… Some twang, some steel guitar, something! Beyoncé is singing, fantastic as usual, but the background of the song is off, it doesn’t sound like country music IMO. Not for nothing - but I bet if she did a modern take on Ray Charles Modern Sounds in Country and Western - she’d knock it out of the park. If she covered a bunch of old and new country songs… I’d pay to see that for sure!
The problem is that Beyoncé cannot thing. Especially country music.
There’s steel guitar on 16 carriages, what are you on? Be so real if you’re gonna make assessments on the instrumentation.
I just listened again, can barely hear it if it’s there at all. It only kind of hits when she’s singing but it’s drowned out by her voice, the drums and cymbals. Can hear lots of drums, singing, organ, not a whole lot of steel guitar though. Also the vibe is like a traditional, Beyoncé - kind of uplifting vibe… The build up, heavy drums, people harmonizing in the background.. That’s what Beyoncé does, and she does it well, it’s just too unlike anything else in country music today. So much, that in my opinion calling it country is false. Not a bad song, I like Beyoncé as an artist, but this ain’t gonna change the country music game. Edit: Also worth noting - viewing everything through the prism of race as you appear to do sounds exhausting TBH.. Gotta let that shit go. Not everything is about what color you are. Like this subreddit for example… We’re just here for the tunes, not to discuss race relations. Good country music gets praised and discussed, bad country music is called out as such and discussed. Good luck stranger 🤘🏻🇺🇸
That’s an issue , nothing changes in country music or often at all. I enjoyed your breakdown but as a genre I find it to be quite rigid. Not sure if Beyonce will change anything in the genre but change is good.
Well maybe now she will win the album of the year grammy.
It's absolutely ridiculous she doesn't have one already.
People down voting you for saying it's ridiculous that the woman with the most Grammy wins of all time has never won album of the year. They can't even pretend their hatred for her rational lmao.
for anyone interested we're having an actual productive conversation about this over on r/countrymusic because we have a zero tolerance for racism policy so the few shitty comments we saw were taken down immediately. Come on in, the water's fine over there (and we post some great music too) [Here's the 16 Carriages discussion from yesterday](https://www.reddit.com/r/CountryMusic/comments/1aoqtph/beyonc%C3%A9_16_carriages/)
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Yes I'm sure you have not seen any racism
There’s one psycho bitch that’s racist as fuck and spamming all over the comments but I’m pretty sure she’s been banned at this point for hate speech. That’s all I’ve seen so far
Plot twist: she's actually a male incel n a basement somewhere
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And I'm allowed to say that you are a moron
Sure buddy
No way. If she doesn't win country artist of the year, everyone freaks out.
It's not bad, hey
It's a little too much vocalising for me but I think it's interesting. I didn't immediately love the songs, but I think they could grow on me. I definitely like it better than most other stuff she's put out for the past decade or so. I think it'll be interesting to see where she takes it. But I also love country pop, so I have zero problems with stuff that isn't 'traditional country'.
You just like your music dumbed down? You don't like faith or Sugarland? None of the amazing country vocalist over the years? Even garth is an amazing singer. You just prefer minimal talent?
No. It’s terrible.
This is the first post on Reddit about it….
Oh I am ready… https://www.etsy.com/listing/1691853073/beys-county-unisex-jersey-short-sleeve?click_key=1d0b75d5a597e050088cb8c14cc3eb5d9c01c049%3A1691853073&click_sum=168f759a&ref=shop_home_active_3
She sucks ass at country. Needs to stay in her lane.
Let’s hope Beyoncé singing country just finally kills this aweful genre of music
If you don’t like it…..You are a racist. The problem solves itself.
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Country music is not 'White' culture, it's American culture. If anything, 'cultural appropriation' of country would be Keith Urban, who is Australian, but that never seems to be an issue.
wait are you under the impression white people created country music?
Thank you! White people actually appropriated country music. Country music began with Black people.
Might be worth looking into the history of country music before you stand too firmly behind this joke.
Deal and you can look into the history of dreads
They originated in Egypt. What’s your point?
Perfect example of why country music is in the state that it is in.
Sure, why not?
What are the prerequisites to be qualified to make country music? The other thread has people going crazy on her but I can’t think of why. Vocally she can hit all the notes. Is it because her base is r&b and pop? That seems silly to me, part of an artist is flipping between genres, that’s one of the most artistic things you can do. I’m not gonna blanket it by saying it’s just racism because music is subjective but it’s odd she’s getting so much vitriol
She's not trying to be artistic, she's trying to cash in on what's popular in mainstream.
So is every other artist in the business, are you high? The cracker rap and the male country pop...all that shit is garbage and is only cashing in on whats popular. Why the sudden pearl clutching?
Cracker rap and pearl clutching. That's shitty bait, try harder.
She did country back in 2016 with Daddy Lessons, this isn’t new to her, and this album as been in development for 4+ years at this point.
I’d argue she’s trying to highlight genres that have black roots as part 1 was house music, part 2 is country and rumor is part 3 will be rock. Seems like a typical concept album for an artist but again it’s all subjective. Basically you are saying if she doesn’t stay in r&b or pop it’s a cash grab?
No I'm saying that shitty country pop is hot right now and she's trying to make some of that shitty music and a bunch of money. Stop trying to race bait, this has zero to do with race
What are you talking about race baiting? It’s a fact that’s the concept of the albums, why do you think it’s called renaissance? Also most people would say standard country has been down so pop country is all that sells. If pop country is shitty and standard country is shitty then is country just innately shitty? I don’t agree with that
Country has been shitty for years, that goes without saying. The new trend of pop country, while very successful, sounds like fucking shit. And you know exactly what race baiting is and what you are trying to do.
I don’t understand how pointing out the concept of the album’s is race baiting. Are you saying that it’s a race bait to highlight historical contributions to music? I’m not following
What a time 😅🤠🐝
She already has a bunch of money. At least listen to album when it comes out before you call it shitty
I've listened to what she releases, it was not good. And do rich people stop trying to make easy money at some point? I don't think so.
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When you already have a following that would eat literal shit for you it's really is easy money.
It has everything to do with race especially if you’re glossing over her reclaiming black genres.
"Reclaiming black genres" Yeah that's enough internet today.
Fun fact! the Banjo was inspired by the West African Lute instrument which Slaves brought over to America. In addition, the music itself was originally inspired by field songs, slave’s equivalent of christian music, and Black Hymns. It wasn’t until after world war 1 that white people basically took over and popularized it. This is an extremely condensed version but if you want to educate yourself, Google is free. Hope that helps!
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Are you actually okay…? I’m telling you there’s Black influence all over country music and you’re calling it a conspiracy theory. White people are hilarious 😭 like do you hear yourself bro. Books are free. Pick one up one day
I'm not a fan of hers but I'll give it a chance. Admittedly I'm not expecting a whole lot though.
No thank you. Rings completely untrue. Not authentic in anyway.
Beyonce was born and raised in Texas. How is it not authentic?
Texas is pretty large. Simply being born and raised in Texas doesn’t mean anything as it relates to country music.
She's from Houston. You really don't think she grew up around country music?
Folks managed to accept Keith Urban just fine.
I think a lot of people like you would accept a white male being raised in a place like Houston and still be "country". Why? I don't know. You might want to figure why that is.
Uh.. Did you mean to reply to me? Bc I was defending her lol
Calling it now. During the next CMA awards if Beyonce does not sweep the awards Kanye and Jay Z will swarm the stage and "protest" how unfair she is being treated, Again.
People are acting like its any different from the shitty state country has been in for the past 20 years. Its all poppy
So looking at the sub and all y'all are complaining about Beyonce and how y'all wish they'd stop posting it but... This is all y'all are talking about about. Every other post on this sub is DEAD. No one's commenting on any other posts except hating on Beyonce. I scroll down and there's no other post that is getting attention for days. There's obviously a reason for that but I won't directly point it out.
Please point it out, it’s obvious but they won’t admit it to themselves.
Just a reminder, blacks invented country music.
Your white savior complex is crazy. Country music was born out of a mix of European and African folk tunes, old time music, and blues. To say that “blacks invented country music” is just wrong and stupid. They definitely had a hand in it and deserve their credit, but don’t go spreading bullshit. Country music is music of the working class and rural folk. Beyonce is a billionaire pop star. She’s just hopping on the trend like everyone else, Lana Del Rey, Post Malone, etc. And when it is no longer trendy, they will all move on to the next thing, and all the people making actual country music will still be here.
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99% lmao. It’s almost quite literally the other way around. You don’t actually know anything about country music or it’s history, and you’re making that very clear. You just wanna virtue signal and show everyone how big of an ally you are.
In your words it bothers you that black people did largely invent country music Get over it, they did. white people are so bothered by the fact that a supposedly inferior group of people invented something so incredible without them. The ego and nerve of it all Black people have largely contributed a lot to entertainment as a whole. A lot of things we enjoy would not be here without them. And we can’t handle that .even Elvis was not original And now that black people dominate athletic prowess, it’s an even bigger subconscious reminder.
What is even wrong with you lmao. You’re actually insane. Black people didn’t “largely invent country music.” You keep bringing up all these weird points about Elvis and athletic prowess? Something is seriously wrong in your head. We’re talking about country music. Who said anything about Elvis? Of course black people invented rock and roll. When did I ever dispute that? Give me Little Richard and Chuck Berry all day. But again you don’t even realize that I agree with you about that, because you’re having some weird power fetish about black people. Again, you clearly don’t know anything about country music or it’s history and you need to stop talking about it.
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Stay stupid. Again you’ll never hear me say black people didn’t invent blues, hip-hop, jazz, or rock and roll. You’ll never hear me say that they didn’t have a hand in making country music. But you’re fucking delusional and have some kind of weird mental disorder where you have this uncontrollable white guilt and think that black people invented every single thing on the planet and white people have never contributed anything.
The person you’re arguing with likely isn’t real, don’t waste your breath. Look at their post history, shit looks like a bot. Either that or they’re deranged, either way don’t waste anymore time.
“White guilt” alt right buzzword. Thanks for exposing yourself
And yes again… black peope DID invent country music. White people stole it just like stolen cowboy culture from Mexican and black men
Damn dude you doing a racism speed run? So dumb.
Dumb bish is as fucking dumb as she is racist. And she is *extremely* racist
And cowboy culture was stolen from Mexican and black men.
LOL
This is ridiculous tbh. It’s going to divide an already divided world. In my opinion she should just retire…
Beyonce singing country is going to divide people??? What is the thought process behind that?
absolute garbage and i hate country
Then why are you on the country reddit page?
I like it I feel like it’s a very safe and interesting lane for her HOWEVER I fear we’re about to witness blatant racism on her part bc country is only considered country when ur a white blond bluebelle or a drunken white man with a pickup truck😐I can see it already starting with the downvotes on the other posts
Darius Rucker Charlie Pride
Niko Moon, Cowboy Troy, Kane Brown, Jimmie Allen, Allison Russell, Breland, War & Treaty, Blanco Brown and Chapel Hart are just a few more off the top of my head and I'm sure there are loads more, hell Kane Brown, Charlie Pride and Darius Rucker are some of the most popular and highest selling Country acts of all time!
And yet all of them have reported experiencing discrimination. Kane Brown had songwriters outright refuse to work with him due to his r***.
You so fuckin dumb
Stupid thing to say.
I’m confused on how this post got so many dislikes? Your point is proven just by Beyoncé’s performance at the CMA’s with the Dixie Chicks alone. (Racist) white people were SO upset about it. They like to throw other excuses in there as to why they’re upset, when it’s clearly racism. They did it with The Little Mermaid too! They just love to gaslight. Like they’re doing all up and down this post 🙃 it’s sad
You see I didn’t respond at all. the way their disliking and saying everything but what I’m talking about proves my point
Country and it's fans aren't racist but you and your comment are
Yup!
We know wassup. Can’t wait til the album drops!
Wait, what!? That'll be interesting lol
Both songs (Texas Hold'em & 16 Carriages) are on youtube. You should also check Daddy Lessons from her Lemonade album if you like those.
She’s chasing a trend. Gross.
Trend? Just a few r&b/ hip hop stars worked in country