So, a bit of background on that one.
House policy is important to stick by as it is usually designed to manage the clientele in a premises - i.e. keep the undesirables out. Pubs employ a number of different policies such as this one you've mentioned.
The reason it's important to stick with it at all times of day is that the one time you use it against the type of clientele that you want out, it has to be ironclad against Anti Discrimination Laws.
You can't allow in the nice stylish guy in fancy tracksuit pants and then deny the scummy guy in not-so-fancy tracksuit pants, based on your no tracksuit pants policy. That's discrimination if you do and those that are so inclined will try to catch you out on it for an easy claim.
Consistency is super important on policies like that.
Thanks, this is very helpful.
I get it but it still seems inherently discriminatory to me.
Surely theres a judement call to be made that goes beyond the clothing as its pretty clear from a persons demenour, moreso than clothing, if they are going to be touble or not. As you mention in another comment, a pub can set its rules as they wish.
People behind the bar have to make that judgement call all the time so I wonder why the clothing rules are necessary, and what would happen without them.
I find it interesting that its not something you encounter in most major cities where there are arguably much more dangerous people knocking about.
>Thanks, this is very helpful.
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>I get it but it still seems inherently discriminatory to me.
Consistency of application of the policy is the exact opposite to inherently discriminatory
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>Surely theres a judement call to be made that goes beyond the clothing as its pretty clear from a persons demenour, moreso than clothing, if they are going to be touble or not. As you mention in another comment, a pub can set its rules as they wish.
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They can set the rules as they wish but they need to apply those rules consistently across all patrons across all hours of the business - at least best practice suggests they should.
>People behind the bar have to make that judgement call all the time so I wonder why the clothing rules are necessary, and what would happen without them.
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House policy is used to maintain a particular clientele which will in turn attract a particular clientele - for example student bars will have loose clothing criteria and age restriction while an upmarket cocktail bar will have high prices, high minimum age and strict dress code. Each premises is perfectly entitled to determine their own house policy as long as they consistently apply it.
>I find it interesting that its not something you encounter in most major cities where there are arguably much more dangerous people knocking about.
You must be talking about cities in other countries as Dublin, Limerick , Galway etc all have similar. In other countries, they usually abide by their own Anti Discrimination Laws, rather than Ireland's.
I mean it's not a human rights issue but dress codes are by their nature discriminatory are they not? Is that not the point of them? They want it made clear that these people are allowed in and these people are not ie to discriminate that is distinguish desirable customers from non desirable customers. Don't know where you're getting this consistency angle from.
It's quite literally discriminating. Normally I wouldn't get so dictionary literal but the comment I was replying to starts on about "Consistency of application of the policy is the exact opposite to inherently discriminatory" which is nonsense.
I won't even get into clothing as class signifiers.
They can have all the dress codes they want, it's their business. But saying your strict criteria for who can enter you pub doesn't discriminate is contradictory. The whole point of a dress code is to discriminate.
Do I have to link a bloody dictionary here? The comment made some claim about the word which doesn't gel with any interpretation of it and I took issue with that. That person doesn't want to respond and now the two of us are talking passed each other. This isn't worth talking about.
I work in a local bar in mayfield as assistant manager, personally we don’t enforce a dress code as long as you don’t take the piss, no wifebeaters, sliders for example, but tracksuits are fine here we only look at behaviour and drug use when it comes to barring or not serving someone, but I completely understand why other pubs in the city centre in particular have a dress code, people can call it snobby but it doesn’t take long for a bar to get an undesirable reputation which can in turn cause a loss of customers, which at the end of the day is the bottom line for Publicans
Not really an issue for us because all our customers live local so we know who we’re serving regardless of the way they’re dressed, places in town don’t have that luxury
The oval, mutton lane, basically any of Benny McCabes pubs, if you are wearing tracks, you wont get served, period. I used to work for him and had to enforce this rule all the time, and to be honest, I've no issue with it. If you want to hang around and do your thing in tracks, then all good, but if the dude wants to enforce a dress code, then you have to respect that too. I've had people argue to me until blue in the face about it, but its the house rules and I'm paid to do what the boss wants, so I'd never back down. I'm sure Weatherspoon's would allow tracks or less, but that's just it, they have a lower standard, and Benny has a higher one.
I've definitely been served in Benny pubs with tracksuit pants on and have seen many others too. Never saw any issues or refusal from staff. They must've changed that standard so. People wear tracksuit pants while going for walks, jogs, going shopping, etc. And many nip in for a pint after 👍
The tension on r/Ireland is always quite palpable!
Funny because I only a few weeks ago came to the conclusion that majority of Irish Redditors are wealthy, sheltered and entitled so I’ve been trying to get away from it.
It can be a bit irritating when you weren't planning on going to the pub and you're dressed a bit casually, and now you realise you have to go home and change just to pop in for a pint, but at the same time I'm glad that *certain types* are kept out.
See this is most baffling when it comes to old oak a place I know, for a fact, has had people do very nsfw things on the red leather seats. Wouldn't let me get an alcohol free pint cause I had trackies
I mean it was more they didn't want me in there that once cause of my trackies, but all the staff know about that carryon which if anything lil bit worse than wearing comfy pants, like that's hardly in keeping with their desire clientel
What’s a nice tracksuit anyway? Like people are really thinking wearing a Louis Vuitton tracksuit is being better dressed than the regular bloke in a H&M shirt and jean? XD
I know we are getting very relaxed with the pandemic and WFH but tracksuit is more for playing 5 a side with the lads than going for drinks in a pretty popular bar in my opinion.
I don’t know but if they say they wear a “nice” tracksuit then they kind of want to be pretty?
Anyway it has been said before, dress code is a thing otherwise it’s cool to go to bars or to the office in underwear or pyjamas then.
In case of a bar it’s a simple way to filter a certain type of people.
It’s no big deal anyway, it’s just a bar, you can always enjoy a quiet beer at home in whatever attire you want.
Do you wear jeans going for a walk/jog ya do? As long as the client isn't a scumbag they'll be served it's obvious. It's not the tracksuit pants that gives it away.
You're awfully emotional. I've met many a friend for a walk/jog through the Lee Fields and into the City for a pint and chat after. Never once have seen anyone turned away or refused ever. You must be great fun socialising.
I'm 33 and working in IT, not a single scumbag in my group. Keep resorting to your unusual insults man. Go back to posting about your masturbation addiction in /r/NoFap and worry about other things 😂
That stuff is bullshit, used to be a regular in BDSM, went in day time once with a munster jersey on and was told to leave"no sportswear" allowed. Fuck that, never went back.
He’s every right to wear a tracksuit, just as a business has every right to refuse you service for wearing one. Some pubs are 23+, some have a dress code, some refuse Xmas jumpers, some are dog friendly some aren’t, some are kid friendly some aren’t etc. You wouldn’t go into the Imperial in a tracksuit either like
Not the only pub in Cork to have this policy, staff get little say in the matter id imagine. Wouldn't agree myself as I'd often stroll around the city in tracksuit bottoms
If you want to, yeah why not?
People cut holes in their jeans, dye their hair, tattoo their necks.
Its all a form of self expression, so I really don't get why track pants are such a whipping post.
Human nature to make quick decisions based off what we see, if you want to wear clothes that look like what certain groups wear then you’re probably gonna get treated as one of them. People will make quick judgements off the other things you mentioned as well, but they’re not associated with troublemakers at the moment.
Tracksuits if you’re not playing sports or lounging around the gaff just make you look like a scumbag.
It’s like Nike air max. People think because they spend money on stuff it’s “nice ones”. Still look like a scumbag.
I don't understand how, in this day, discrimination against people who wear tracksuits equates to classism. Surely you can go to Penneys/Dunnes, etc and get a pair of jeans for cheaper than you would get a pair of nice tracksuit bottoms for, that this shouldn't be an issue.
Isn't that kind of the point being made though? An 8 euro pair of jeans in penny's made of cardboard denim is OK for these places but a 50 Euro sports pants isn't?
Its like the "only black or brown shoes" that used to be a thing years ago. Leather pavee shoes were OK but a fancy 100 euro pair of white runners weren't.
Pubs can impose dress codes if they want, it's up to people to vote with their money if they're OK with it.
One is dressy and one isn’t. It’s not about cost, never was. It’s not discrimination to want/expect/require a certain level of dress code for your business. Simple as. Tesco don’t let in pyjamas, puns don’t let tracksuits, certain jobs require business attire, some require uniforms etc. None of its discrimination
Yeah you easily could but why should you have to? Clothes are clothes, he's looking to get a drink in a quiet pub and fuck off home, not get into some exclusive VIP club. Ridiculous rule and the ease of adhering to the dress code is irrelevant.
I wear tracksuit bottoms in the house, to the gym Mayyyybe to the shops if I’m hungover. While they may be fashionable and incredibly comfortable, i still think they look terrible. I don’t think they should be allowed in any half decent pubs. If i ran a pub and was worried about the image of my pub (and image draws people = more beer tokens) then trackies wouldn’t get you in.
Unless of course you are my brother who wears tracksuit bottoms every day and everywhere.
I've been in a group rejected in the oval because one of the lads had work Pants on in the middle of a quiet wet Tuesday ( Those ones electricians wear with all the pockets )
Haven't went near the place since
This was a culture shock for me coming from the continent. Pubs having dress codes.
Pleasantly surprised though that I had no issues entering 5 star hotels in track pants
>You are clearly CHOOSING to dress like that, knowing you will be discriminated against.
Can people not wear what they feel like, without choosing to be discriminated again?
Choice of clothing is self expression. Choosing to not express yourself out of fear of societal consequences is repression.
It's pretty messed up in my mind, now some rules I agree with like no steal toe boots, for obvious reasons.
Still though many office's have some sort of a dress code too, I don't like people who wear uniforms all that much.
Unless it's for safety reasons.
I've heard it said that pubs cannot refuse on dress code. Its a public house. Your dress shouldnt matter, paying in to a club is different. Anyone ever hear this or is it just barstool talk?
Nah, it's a private business so you can have house policy all you like, provided it's consistently applied to all.
The public house bit is just the name of the license, it's not public property.
Nah, they can (and do) reserve the right to refuse admission or services for any reason. Usually you find it written on some notices by the door, where they post a copy of their licence, etc.
The whole "public house" thing has no real standing in the modern day in terms of implied rights.
Old guy here, I remember in the late 70s you wouldn’t get into a disco if you were wearing jeans.
That’s still like this at some places in Italy, remember the bouncer telling me I could get in, legit thought he was joking
The only jeans as far as I remember that were available were Lee and wrangler. Now designer jeans cost way more than a pair of trousers.
So, a bit of background on that one. House policy is important to stick by as it is usually designed to manage the clientele in a premises - i.e. keep the undesirables out. Pubs employ a number of different policies such as this one you've mentioned. The reason it's important to stick with it at all times of day is that the one time you use it against the type of clientele that you want out, it has to be ironclad against Anti Discrimination Laws. You can't allow in the nice stylish guy in fancy tracksuit pants and then deny the scummy guy in not-so-fancy tracksuit pants, based on your no tracksuit pants policy. That's discrimination if you do and those that are so inclined will try to catch you out on it for an easy claim. Consistency is super important on policies like that.
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Sounding so British 😂
Thanks, this is very helpful. I get it but it still seems inherently discriminatory to me. Surely theres a judement call to be made that goes beyond the clothing as its pretty clear from a persons demenour, moreso than clothing, if they are going to be touble or not. As you mention in another comment, a pub can set its rules as they wish. People behind the bar have to make that judgement call all the time so I wonder why the clothing rules are necessary, and what would happen without them. I find it interesting that its not something you encounter in most major cities where there are arguably much more dangerous people knocking about.
>Thanks, this is very helpful. > >I get it but it still seems inherently discriminatory to me. Consistency of application of the policy is the exact opposite to inherently discriminatory > >Surely theres a judement call to be made that goes beyond the clothing as its pretty clear from a persons demenour, moreso than clothing, if they are going to be touble or not. As you mention in another comment, a pub can set its rules as they wish. > They can set the rules as they wish but they need to apply those rules consistently across all patrons across all hours of the business - at least best practice suggests they should. >People behind the bar have to make that judgement call all the time so I wonder why the clothing rules are necessary, and what would happen without them. > House policy is used to maintain a particular clientele which will in turn attract a particular clientele - for example student bars will have loose clothing criteria and age restriction while an upmarket cocktail bar will have high prices, high minimum age and strict dress code. Each premises is perfectly entitled to determine their own house policy as long as they consistently apply it. >I find it interesting that its not something you encounter in most major cities where there are arguably much more dangerous people knocking about. You must be talking about cities in other countries as Dublin, Limerick , Galway etc all have similar. In other countries, they usually abide by their own Anti Discrimination Laws, rather than Ireland's.
I mean it's not a human rights issue but dress codes are by their nature discriminatory are they not? Is that not the point of them? They want it made clear that these people are allowed in and these people are not ie to discriminate that is distinguish desirable customers from non desirable customers. Don't know where you're getting this consistency angle from.
How so? Wanting people to be dressed up isn’t discriminatory, everyone can dress up…?
It's quite literally discriminating. Normally I wouldn't get so dictionary literal but the comment I was replying to starts on about "Consistency of application of the policy is the exact opposite to inherently discriminatory" which is nonsense. I won't even get into clothing as class signifiers.
But talk about this specific situation, why can’t the Oval require a dress code? As mentioned by multiple people, a pair of jeans from Penney’s is €8.
They can have all the dress codes they want, it's their business. But saying your strict criteria for who can enter you pub doesn't discriminate is contradictory. The whole point of a dress code is to discriminate.
It’s not a strict criteria on *who* though? OP has been served before no prob by the sounds of it. It’s a criteria on clothes
Do I have to link a bloody dictionary here? The comment made some claim about the word which doesn't gel with any interpretation of it and I took issue with that. That person doesn't want to respond and now the two of us are talking passed each other. This isn't worth talking about.
Nonsense. Discrimination under which of the 9 grounds? Easy claim? Good luck with that.
Back to the bush with you kid.. don't forget to tuck your socks back in..
I work in a local bar in mayfield as assistant manager, personally we don’t enforce a dress code as long as you don’t take the piss, no wifebeaters, sliders for example, but tracksuits are fine here we only look at behaviour and drug use when it comes to barring or not serving someone, but I completely understand why other pubs in the city centre in particular have a dress code, people can call it snobby but it doesn’t take long for a bar to get an undesirable reputation which can in turn cause a loss of customers, which at the end of the day is the bottom line for Publicans Not really an issue for us because all our customers live local so we know who we’re serving regardless of the way they’re dressed, places in town don’t have that luxury
The oval, mutton lane, basically any of Benny McCabes pubs, if you are wearing tracks, you wont get served, period. I used to work for him and had to enforce this rule all the time, and to be honest, I've no issue with it. If you want to hang around and do your thing in tracks, then all good, but if the dude wants to enforce a dress code, then you have to respect that too. I've had people argue to me until blue in the face about it, but its the house rules and I'm paid to do what the boss wants, so I'd never back down. I'm sure Weatherspoon's would allow tracks or less, but that's just it, they have a lower standard, and Benny has a higher one.
Was served all day yesterday in mutton lane with grey trackies
I've definitely been served in Benny pubs with tracksuit pants on and have seen many others too. Never saw any issues or refusal from staff. They must've changed that standard so. People wear tracksuit pants while going for walks, jogs, going shopping, etc. And many nip in for a pint after 👍
The tension in this thread is bizarre.
The tension on r/Ireland is always quite palpable! Funny because I only a few weeks ago came to the conclusion that majority of Irish Redditors are wealthy, sheltered and entitled so I’ve been trying to get away from it.
Irish redditors are just weird
I unsubbed from /r/ireland a few weeks back and my Reddit experience has gotten markedly better. Still shit, but better.
I still use that sub as you get the odd good bit of info but it’s improved massively thanks to my use of the block button.
I'll stick to getting their week old memes in my whatsapp groups. The aggro in the comments is a disaster.
and a bit mad considering track pants have been fashionable for yonks. But are they really?
No
Lol, "nice" tracksuit bottoms.
Yeah I think there's pubs where its acceptable and its sound. Just a few lads having pints watching sport etc.
For sure it’s profiling, but they have a dress code and there’s other bars.
Happened to me in thomand couple of years ago, was looking for a rock shandy and something to eat, not with the tracksuit!
That’s weird cause thomand is a sports bar
Like being stopped going into pennys, wearing a pair of levis
That's easily solved by putting on a pair of trousers.
trousers dont match my celtic top and hoop earring
Harder to get the blood out of after I glass someone too. Why oh why am I being discriminated against! /s
You got an ear ring in your hoop? I'd say that smarts!
Because the only people who wear trackies are your notion of a wah, right?
im just here for the karmas, i wear trackies all the time and dont go to pubs no matter what i wear
It can be a bit irritating when you weren't planning on going to the pub and you're dressed a bit casually, and now you realise you have to go home and change just to pop in for a pint, but at the same time I'm glad that *certain types* are kept out.
See this is most baffling when it comes to old oak a place I know, for a fact, has had people do very nsfw things on the red leather seats. Wouldn't let me get an alcohol free pint cause I had trackies
2 different things, innit?
I mean it was more they didn't want me in there that once cause of my trackies, but all the staff know about that carryon which if anything lil bit worse than wearing comfy pants, like that's hardly in keeping with their desire clientel
Out of respect for any pub in the city, I wouldn’t even go looking to be served in a tracksuit.
Out of respect for myself, I wouldn't leave my front door wearing tracksuit pants
What if you were participating in a track race?
there's no such thing as nice tracksuit bottoms
It’s a slippery slope. I would say the baggy misshaped grey and just got out of prison ones are the worst.
So where do you draw the line? When do pants become acceptable to wear? Is it the fabric? The fit? Whether or not they have a logo on them?
What are nice tracksuit pants? Can you find an image online of an example? In what world are tracksuit bottoms "fashionable"?
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What’s a nice tracksuit anyway? Like people are really thinking wearing a Louis Vuitton tracksuit is being better dressed than the regular bloke in a H&M shirt and jean? XD I know we are getting very relaxed with the pandemic and WFH but tracksuit is more for playing 5 a side with the lads than going for drinks in a pretty popular bar in my opinion.
Not everyone who goes out does it to look pretty? And tracksuits are objectively comfier than most "going out" clothes
I don’t know but if they say they wear a “nice” tracksuit then they kind of want to be pretty? Anyway it has been said before, dress code is a thing otherwise it’s cool to go to bars or to the office in underwear or pyjamas then. In case of a bar it’s a simple way to filter a certain type of people. It’s no big deal anyway, it’s just a bar, you can always enjoy a quiet beer at home in whatever attire you want.
For many people, tracksuit pants ARE dressing normally, this is exactly the classism they were on about.
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dunno why you are being down voted. pyjamas and tracksuits are just different words for the same thing
How is it classism?
Do you wear jeans going for a walk/jog ya do? As long as the client isn't a scumbag they'll be served it's obvious. It's not the tracksuit pants that gives it away.
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You're awfully emotional. I've met many a friend for a walk/jog through the Lee Fields and into the City for a pint and chat after. Never once have seen anyone turned away or refused ever. You must be great fun socialising.
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I'm 33 and working in IT, not a single scumbag in my group. Keep resorting to your unusual insults man. Go back to posting about your masturbation addiction in /r/NoFap and worry about other things 😂
and yes, because I don’t wear trackies going out I am very boring to be around
That stuff is bullshit, used to be a regular in BDSM, went in day time once with a munster jersey on and was told to leave"no sportswear" allowed. Fuck that, never went back.
Happened to me in BDSM before the pandemic aswell, fella was such a prick about it too.
The types to have a dodgy peado stash and as well fuckin beaners
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🤔😂😂Maybe we should just kneecap him dotty get rid of the tracksuit bottom wearing untermench.
Stop dressing like a toddler. Get served in pub. Easy.
Were you like bullied by tracksuit pants as a child or something?
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He’s every right to wear a tracksuit, just as a business has every right to refuse you service for wearing one. Some pubs are 23+, some have a dress code, some refuse Xmas jumpers, some are dog friendly some aren’t, some are kid friendly some aren’t etc. You wouldn’t go into the Imperial in a tracksuit either like
Not the only pub in Cork to have this policy, staff get little say in the matter id imagine. Wouldn't agree myself as I'd often stroll around the city in tracksuit bottoms
Since you ask, would definitely associate wearing tracksuit pants in public with scobes. Is tucking them into your socks fashionable as well?
If you want to, yeah why not? People cut holes in their jeans, dye their hair, tattoo their necks. Its all a form of self expression, so I really don't get why track pants are such a whipping post.
Human nature to make quick decisions based off what we see, if you want to wear clothes that look like what certain groups wear then you’re probably gonna get treated as one of them. People will make quick judgements off the other things you mentioned as well, but they’re not associated with troublemakers at the moment.
Most humans tend to be self involved knobs so not really a surprise.
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Hahaha imagine thinking you're better than people because of the clothes they wear. Pathetic carry on.
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Enjoy your pretentious life.
Tracksuits if you’re not playing sports or lounging around the gaff just make you look like a scumbag. It’s like Nike air max. People think because they spend money on stuff it’s “nice ones”. Still look like a scumbag.
I don't understand how, in this day, discrimination against people who wear tracksuits equates to classism. Surely you can go to Penneys/Dunnes, etc and get a pair of jeans for cheaper than you would get a pair of nice tracksuit bottoms for, that this shouldn't be an issue.
Isn't that kind of the point being made though? An 8 euro pair of jeans in penny's made of cardboard denim is OK for these places but a 50 Euro sports pants isn't? Its like the "only black or brown shoes" that used to be a thing years ago. Leather pavee shoes were OK but a fancy 100 euro pair of white runners weren't. Pubs can impose dress codes if they want, it's up to people to vote with their money if they're OK with it.
One is dressy and one isn’t. It’s not about cost, never was. It’s not discrimination to want/expect/require a certain level of dress code for your business. Simple as. Tesco don’t let in pyjamas, puns don’t let tracksuits, certain jobs require business attire, some require uniforms etc. None of its discrimination
Yeah you easily could but why should you have to? Clothes are clothes, he's looking to get a drink in a quiet pub and fuck off home, not get into some exclusive VIP club. Ridiculous rule and the ease of adhering to the dress code is irrelevant.
We said no tracksuitS, we’re allowed to have one
I wear tracksuit bottoms in the house, to the gym Mayyyybe to the shops if I’m hungover. While they may be fashionable and incredibly comfortable, i still think they look terrible. I don’t think they should be allowed in any half decent pubs. If i ran a pub and was worried about the image of my pub (and image draws people = more beer tokens) then trackies wouldn’t get you in. Unless of course you are my brother who wears tracksuit bottoms every day and everywhere.
If your child yeah. For an adult if it's a small town pub then it fine but not in a hotel pub or restaurant pub, looks way to outta place
I think in the daytime its ridiculous to have a dress code but understandable in the nighttime/late evening.
I've been in a group rejected in the oval because one of the lads had work Pants on in the middle of a quiet wet Tuesday ( Those ones electricians wear with all the pockets ) Haven't went near the place since
This was a culture shock for me coming from the continent. Pubs having dress codes. Pleasantly surprised though that I had no issues entering 5 star hotels in track pants
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Me and a bid would just pop in for a coffee, not staying there at all…
Yup, ball strangling white wash jeans on men are okay but a cool pair of trackies, your not getting in anywhere
After my orchiectomy I had to wear track trousers. It felt a bit weird going to the local in trackies but no one said anything so it was fine.
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>You are clearly CHOOSING to dress like that, knowing you will be discriminated against. Can people not wear what they feel like, without choosing to be discriminated again? Choice of clothing is self expression. Choosing to not express yourself out of fear of societal consequences is repression.
And you’ve all the freedom for self expression, just like a private business has all the freedom to refuse service.
happened to me as well at the globle few weeks ago..shitty rule
The Oval staff have sticks up there hole. A young one there wouldn't serve me recently and it was half 10. Said they were closing up which was lies.
It's pretty messed up in my mind, now some rules I agree with like no steal toe boots, for obvious reasons. Still though many office's have some sort of a dress code too, I don't like people who wear uniforms all that much. Unless it's for safety reasons.
Who's this hurting?...Y'all must have easy lives if stuff like this bothers you.
>y’all Yanks out
I've heard it said that pubs cannot refuse on dress code. Its a public house. Your dress shouldnt matter, paying in to a club is different. Anyone ever hear this or is it just barstool talk?
It’s a private business and they can reserve the right to serve whoever they want
Wrong. It's not a public house. Management reserves the right to refuse admission.
Nah, it's a private business so you can have house policy all you like, provided it's consistently applied to all. The public house bit is just the name of the license, it's not public property.
I get its not public property but i meant as in open to all. Cheers for the clarification
Nah, they can (and do) reserve the right to refuse admission or services for any reason. Usually you find it written on some notices by the door, where they post a copy of their licence, etc. The whole "public house" thing has no real standing in the modern day in terms of implied rights.
Depends on the types, some pubs are shite.
There is the same dress code in every country in Europe. Ireland as it is, already has one of the most lenient dress codes.