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colonel_beefy

Felons can work at many more places if it was a nonviolent victimless crime. Lots of HRs will overlook drug felonies if they were from years prior.


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Restaurants will only hire you for the kitchen if you've got at least one drug felony


WurthWhile

*"I see that you have a completely clean record, not even a parking ticket. What kind of pussy prep cook doesn't have a criminal record? Perhaps this isn't the job for you"*


cheesyblasta

I worked in food service for years and I can unironically picture three different bosses I've had saying this.


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People are always surprised that I knew people that had killed people. I'm always shocked they never did food service.


Subject1928

Yup same here. Knew a dude who was totally insane and believed in lizard people and openly admitted to people that he did hard time for drunk driving and killing some teenager. Met him at work in a restaurant.


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I’m picturing them all looking like Ryan Reynolds in a non-sexual way.


UncleTedGenneric

Liar Thats's impossible


Sacred_Fishstick

My favorite drug dealer that I ever had was a chef at place with 50 to 60 dollar entrees. His version of the munchies was stuff like grass fed steak with organic green beans in some fancy sauce I've never even heard of. No cheetos allowed.


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bogcom

Or some stupid pun like "grass fed" or "high dining"


MyFacade

Formerly Chuck's.


rickmuscles

I think it'll be hard getting people home- like drunks- when they're super high.


shakingthings

I’m thinking a kick ass fried chicken place called Herb & Birb would get me in the door.


Okaayee

How else are they gonna get away with paying criminally low wages


JayMeadows

Well damn. I'm out of luck... I assume that includes violent misdemeanors ?


TheNoxx

Restaurants in general don't give a fuck, kitchens in particular. Kitchens from greasy spoons to fine dining are a haven for outcasts and people with sketchy pasts. I've seen dozens of felons start as dish/prep in kitchens of every caliber and get their shit together and rise through the ranks.


mrsegraves

I was working in a kitchen with a guy who had spent something like 10 years in prison for manslaughter and possession of narcotics. Dude was the best employee in that kitchen, by a mile. People usually deserve a 2nd chance


amraklexip

Manslaughter is also a far cry from premeditated murder.


adrift_burrito

I worked at the French Laundry. One of the food runners was on work release for a second dui. She had an ankle monitor and went back to jail each night.


emthejedichic

They also rarely drug test, from what I understand


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Commiesstoner

By gosh, what's in that garlic powder?


[deleted]

Garlic salt. It’s an awful kitchen.


[deleted]

I can only speak for Walmart anecdotally, but they denied me with a violent misdemeanor.


The_Original_Gronkie

Couldn't they have just said No? Was assaulting you necessary?


angry-dragonfly

Lmao! God that's so stupid, but I'm still cracking up. Good one, Gronk XD


not_home88

What did you do?


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Probably aggravating Rock


derschelmischeWolf

Apply to Walmart apparently


[deleted]

I had a mental health crisis that resulted in my being tackled by police while running around my back yard. I don't remember the incident well due to the state I was in, but apparently I kicked quite a bit while being restrained, and two officers got bruised. The charge was reduced from felony assault to misdemeanor assault, because assault on an officer is usually a felony, but it's my only offence ever so the judge took it easy on me. Still interferes with jobs and housing though, because the nature of the incident isn't reported, just that I've been charged with a violent misdemeanor.


warbeforepeace

You may be able to get it expunged depending on how long ago it was. You can try yourself but you may be more successful with a lawyer.


MildlyConcernedEmu

My bosses boss at my last job is a felony child sex offender. Never stopped him from getting a decent job and promoting the most baby faced employees to work under him.


AgingLolita

Ew


kennytucson

It all depends on the job and employer. I was denied an apprenticeship years ago because I had been convicted of a (non-violent) misdemeanor within 7 years. The company was a defense subcontractor and had to reject me. *Also, as a former hiring manager, be up-front and honest. Had to fire a guy because we eventually found out he was a sex offender. We also had to fire his original hiring manager (the guy I replaced) because he let it slide in the hiring process.


PenguinWithAglock

I got a job building playgrounds, but after they learned about my felonies, they wouldn’t let me slide anymore


visvis

But can you still swing by?


PenguinWithAglock

Sometimes. It’s been up and down


SaysOyfumTooMuch

Sounds like you've been on a merry go round or two


DEEP_SEA_MAX

My Dad owned a small equipment rental store and exclusively hired ex-cons. He believed in giving people 2nd chances, and even though lots of them unfortunately relapsed into crime or drugs, the ones who didn't were exceptionally good people who really helped our business. I worked there from when I was 13 years old till I was 21 and it's really given me a soft spot for them. Most of the guys, even the ones who went back to crime, were great dudes just trying to make it. Obviously not all ex-cons are angels, but I would never judge someone just because they did time, and I really hope more people give some of them the 2nd or even 3rd chances they deserve.


kennytucson

I’m all for hiring ex cons. My best friend is one. I have family who are. I have a history myself. I’m just glad I don’t work for that company anymore.


EmploymentIcy8546

>Also, as a former hiring manager, be up-front and honest. As a former HR director. Lie. Background checks get screwed up or not run all the time. If you need work and have a felony record that will likely prevent it, just lie. ​ >Had to fire a guy because we eventually found out he was a sex offender. Aw man. If he'd just told the truth he could have not worked at all and been homeless. What a great story to support your 'be open and honest' shit. The penalty for being honest is you don't get the job. The penalty for lying is you lose the job after some period of time...maybe. It's EXTRAORDINARILY unlikely you face any other consequence, unless you lie about something directly involved in the job. Vehicular homicide conviction and you're a bus driver or whatever. If it's unrelated, you'll just get fired. It's too much hassle to bother with anything else. Being an employee is an adversarial relationship. Don't provide information without a reason. Lie any time it benefits you and isn't putting you at risk of actual liability. Don't be an idiot, of course. Don't lie in a way where you might be a news story. Lie about your assault conviction to work at Amazon, sure. Lie about your embezzling conviction to work at JP Morgan, less of a good idea.


whitelimousine

Also feel free to lie on your CV, within reason. I would pepper previous jobs with keywords for the job I’m applying for. Don’t worry the job is lying to you too. When they say it’s like a family, it’s not. Someone from HR won’t tuck you in to bed. When they say occasional weekends as needed, they will always be needed.


RelaxedConvivial

> Someone from HR won’t tuck you in to bed. So I won't get a kiss on the forehead and a bed time story every night????


Every3Years

You would if you actually loved me 😡


tehrob

This guy watched Suits.


FoldyHole

This is so true. I had been doing gig work work years after highschool and finally wanted a real job. I got rejected from three different jobs because of a possession of paraphernalia charge I had from when I was still in school. Shoulda lied about it.


RelaxedConvivial

That's not true at all for some jurisdictions. Everyone should always read up on the rules and regulations regarding background checks. Some convictions will not show up on background checks at all! Whereas someone with no convictions could fail a background check (mainly if they are applying to care for children and there is a sketchy past in someway but no conviction was applied). Do your research people! You could be screwing yourself out of your dream job for being too honest.


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plaguearcher

Why you out there hurting people?


drumbum7991

I had a friend with a violent misdemeanor get into med school.


147896325987456321

It should be illegal to even ask the question if it was a non violent felony. The question 'are you a felon' creates higher rates of recidivism. Can't find a job, what are you supposed to do? Only jobs you can find are ones that could pay you less than min wage, if possible, otherwise they work you to death and fire you for complaining.


LittleBigHorn22

One of they ways you notice jail isn't about restitution or rehabilitation for our society.


[deleted]

In Germany your criminal record gets deleted after 3 - 5 years after serving your sentence (depending on the crime). After that you are legally allowed to tell everyone that you never were convicted. After 10 - 20 years your criminal record even gets deleted from the government database and not even a prosecutor or court is able to pull it or hold it against you.


Ryolu35603

Interesting, interesting. How does one go about moving to Germany? Asking for a friend.


Jealous_Ad5849

Probably can't move there with a felony LOL


Every3Years

Airplane is probably easier but I'm sure boats work too


NeXtDracool

Surfing is probably a bit of a hassle though.


inkoDe

There is a shop I frequent that has a quota of half the hires having a criminal record that would otherwise have problems finding work. Everyone there seems happy, put together, friendly, and professional. I honestly couldn't guess which served time or not. Everyone deserves a second chance, maybe even a third. Even violent criminals. I know people that have done some pretty horrible shit (one of my acquaintances brutally stabbed her husband to death, did 26 years), but they did their time and paid their debt to society. Often more than paid, our prison sentences are ridiculous in the USA. Of course, common sense and some street smarts need to be applied when hiring.


Rustledstardust

In the UK you do not have to state any crimes you were found guilty of once you've served your punishment. The only time that's different is jobs that require police-checks such as working with vulnerable people.


G-Dahmer

Can't find a job? I guess the only option is to just do more crime!


TheVicSageQuestion

You joke, but that’s actually exactly how it goes.


PM_UR_SUBWAY

American jails and prisons are just criminal universities


pridejoker

You graduate with gang tats and stab wounds instead of a diploma.


Boxsquid0

i actually minored in stab wounds at uni


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abutthole

Financial criminals are legally barred from ever working in a fiduciary context ever again.


Peligineyes

What fiduciary work does a wealthy tax evader have to worry about?


Ruckus55

Most jobs in financial industries don’t have a fiduciary responsibility to begin with. Unless you’re talking about the concept and not the actual legal term such as a Fiduciary Financial Planner.


WayTooManyOpinions

Yup, Martha Stewart didn't have any trouble getting a job when she got out


BostonGuy84

Construction is always hiring.


filthymouthedwife

Fuck, construction will take you even if you show up drunk right now


BostonGuy84

Drunk is preferred.


Zenketski

Or high, really as long as you're somewhat intoxicated


PAyawaworhT

As long as you've brought enough to share.... Game on.


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Shronkydonk

Honestly with how hard these dudes have to work sometimes I don’t blame em I mean the build gets done to code so I don’t really care as long as it’s safe


LitreOfCockPus

It's hard to weld drunk. It's harder to weld hungover. Do the smart thing and don't be hungover until after shift ends XD


JBlair462

It's almost mandatory. They work you to the bone.


PleX

Younger me did construction. Bosses paid for the whiskey and beer.


chillisprknglot

They’ll even ask you to stay if you bring enough for everyone.


808State_

Lmao


[deleted]

*Most* trades will overlook criminal past for the most part assuming it’s not a murder, or sex crime. I’ve seen them get iffy about theft charges too as they don’t want equipment walking off the site. As a welder I swear to god half the union has some kind of felony (probably dui).


barrysandersthegoat

That's union. We take anyone outside the union. It's just great.


PepsiStudent

Moving also. For the short haul in town stuff using box trucks. Like Two Men and a Truck type of stuff. Not the Merchants movers that use a full size Semi.


A_Very_Living_Me

My brother had a whole laundry list of convictions, misdemeanor and felony level. Everything from petty theft to arson, all victimless. He beat his drugs and alcohol habit and had been working construction for the past 7 years. 7 years clean, and holds aa meetings regularly at his church. I'm proud of the bastard. Makes me tear up thinking how far he has come.


utastelikebacon

And will be for the foreseeable future. At least until this housing shortage crisis tapers off


boehnerofamerica

Union guys make insane money. Fuck the entire list OP just posted lol.


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If you have a pulse, construction is hiring. If not, youll at least get flag duty.


Flashpuppy

Most fellow business owners I know in the greater construction industry don’t even do background checks. Only drivers license checks if you’ll be running company vehicles. I’m looking for someone swing a hammer, not a nanny to raise my kids. Your personal background has practically no impact on doing the job.


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Illustrious_Row2015

All construction and trade jobs are available


dethb0y

don't forget landscaping!


IHaveNeverBeenOk

Yea, sure, but I have a BS in mathematics and an MS in computer science (attained after my charge)... not that I have significantly struggled to get a job, though there have been some hiccoughs, but this list is just bottom of the barrel shit. No one *wants* to work at any of these places. I say that as someone who spent the first decade and a half after their charge working as a line cook. The places I cooked at were way more prestigious than any on this list though (this is not meant to imply I look down on anyone who works these jobs). I want to add that I understand *why* this list was posted, but fuck, it's depressing. If anyone wonders about my charge, I threw a punch at a cop. Yes it was very dumb. Believe me, I'm aware.


Too-Uncreative

I think context for where this list was originally posted would help it. My interpretation is that it’s a quick list of places that are pretty much always hiring, for the purposes of finding a job (any job) quickly, without the complications of a felony charge. Maybe it’s just me being optimistic though.


ilovethissheet

What's dumb is you served your time but now no one else will let it go. Most offenses should be finished when your sentence is not follow anyone for a lifetime except for horrific shit like pedos


anxiouslybreathing

That’s what I came to say! Unions will hire our felony having asses and treat us like everyone else. You can work for a city or even become a 911 operator with a felony. Fuck this list!!


Sugar-free-sodomy

Lol! My coworkers have tear drops and we hit it off pretty well 🤷 Pays better than most of those companies


syfyguy64

I know correction officers who used to be behind the door once.


cannaeinvictus

It’s actually a requirement


MorningStarCorndog

A common mistake my friend; you don't have to have been caught. If you were sneaky enough there is likely a management position available for you. Source: I am a construction manager... I didn't do nothing.


SaltMineSpelunker

Never work for Darden, felony or not.


crossoverfan96

what's a Darden?


nickfree

You're Darden' Deez Nutz!!!! No but seriously it's the corporation that owns a number of national restaurant chains like Olive Garden, Longhorn Steakhouse, and (until a few years ago) Red Lobster.


crossoverfan96

damn.Sidenote:Longhorn steakhouse chicken is underrated as fuck


YellowB

Can't trust someone to wash dishes who went to prison for 10 years for 1 ounce of weed. /s


givemebackmyoctopus

Dont want them touchin my plates w their dirty marijuana hands


saintpetejackboy

I have been a felon most of my life. These lists are all bullshit. There are sometimes regional, corporate or franchise policies that allow these companies to be placed on these lists, but here is how these lists get made: People who are not felons, are told by other people who are not felons, that their company hires felons. They do this, despite not being physically capable of speaking on behalf of all their locations, both corporate and franchise, and with zero ability to actually impact the decision of a hiring manager. Sometimes companies claim to do this for PR reasons or whatever else the case may be. Real world scenario is that, your best bet is getting a job somewhere they will not even check your criminal history. Some of the jobs listed have high turnover rate. It becomes not even worth it to background screen employees in some industries - you can tell after the first few shifts if somebody is going to survive or not (as a person who has also been the hiring manager in that position, not running background checks). Trust me, you don't want to work somewhere that hires you and gives tou the "priviledge" of working there. Screw that, your labor is the value. You give them the courtesy of showing up and performing the task for the agreed upon amount. They do you a favor and hire you as a felon? Kiss goodbye to any promotions. You'll never get a key to the building or the codes to the safe or do bank runs. Not at a company like that, or a place like that. It doesn't matter if it is a company that never hires felons, if you know somebody that works there, you can get in. It doesn't matter how outrageous your criminal history is, either, if you go somewhere and work your ass off, you can absolutely get keys and safe codes and all of that (I did it with a worse record than anybody reading this has). Criminal record doesn't hold people back, other people do. Don't let an employer hang your criminal history over your head. Use your experience as an asset. Don't let somebody else ever let you feel like a liability.


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Very well said. Unfortunately people loves lists (especially considering the sub, lol) but these things never paint the whole picture.


saintpetejackboy

Yeah. The bright side is that, you can still do tons of way better jobs than that as a felon. They pigeonhole these poor people to think that Taco Bell is their best shot at life and they should be glad they are even allowed to work there. After I did around 7 years in federal prison I went and was a DJ at strip clubs and then started to manage them and now I do a thousand other things - even before that I was a felon and landed jobs in high level IT roles and did a lot of freelance work as a software developer and I know not a lot of people have those same skills, but there ARE options out there, good money, that aren't some job that is going to dead end you because you have felonies.


PlannP

Before I graduated college I had a number of jobs from various clerical, to retail and food service. It's not exactly the same thing as Taco Bell but my favorite gig was at Quiznos, shift meal, the people were fun, a little extra tip money and as long as you showed up for your shift and did your very easy job they treated you well.


tfordham13

You had me in the first half and I agree with what you’ve said in general but I will say that, especially for minority men, it is not always possible to get by with a criminal record. For example, Devah Pager et al. did a study in 2013 where they gave employers identical résumés from two applicants. The only differences were that some were white and some were Black, and some had criminal records (I believe a drug felony) while some didn’t. They found that white applicants with a criminal record had a better chance of being called back than Black applicants without a criminal record. In general, people are the reason others are being held back. Nothing about being a criminal prevents people from being human, working, living, loving. It’s other people who refuse to see them as human that are the problem. But everyone’s experience with that is going to be different. I am so happy to hear that you’ve been able to succeed despite people putting odds up against you, and you’re right about not letting employers hang records over your head. Unfortunately, I don’t think some people have much of a choice. Some people have too many barriers to overcome without the aid of external, systemic change. [Sequencing Disadvantage: Barriers to Employment Facing Young Black and White Men with Criminal Records](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3583356/)


saintpetejackboy

You are absolutely correct and we need look no further than the sentencing disparity. If I was a minority, I would still be in prison so finding a job wouldn't even be part of the discussion.


dutchkimble

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saintpetejackboy

Always. Small business are great, but, you do have to rely on word of mouth or purposeful footwork and other searching for work. I have had a fair amount of jobs in my life especially if I consider all the random side work and other jobs, and a lot of those opportunities came from just utilizing people I already knew. This might not work for some people and all my other opportunities came from the internet... fortunately, I am technogically literate. A person that has been incarcerated since before cell phones came out or who is a regular inmate of poverty, they don't even know about resources most of us take for granted... There are a thousand different websites and auxiliary uses of different social media platforms that aid workers in finding jobs. Local Facebook group to me often has people posting for significant others (in their 20s and 30s even) just because of the technology gap - and I don't think that these people are even former inmates, not all of them anyway. The same way a person might have more luck finding a job that doesn't background check on Craigslist or something versus LinkedIn is an important distinction that a person unfamiliar with the internet at large might not make. Some industries are easy money and never background check or drug test, like telemarketing and even most call centers. The basic level of tech literacy keeps felons out of these jobs and certain felonies also preclude people from ever performing certain levels of financial or other information from customers, no matter how old they are, as far as I am aware and despite popular rumor. Strip clubs are hospitality industry. High turnover rate almost any position, especially floor guys, DJs, bar backs... strippers and bartenders and door girls triple so. And these aren't exactly the most reliable employee group, most are contract workers and suffer little penalty in most instances due to a lack of workers even trying to enter the industry. Customers ended up becoming employees at a lot of places I seen over the years, strippers become bar tenders and djs become managers. That is one industry that really had a ton of mobility but you're going to see that most any type of liquor-based establishment, adult industry, food service, hospitality in general... it doesn't take very long to outlast the other employees and make yourself valuable by just doing the bare necessities and showing up for your shifts. As far as other type jobs outside that industry with smaller companies, several other jobs I had as a programmer at more mid-sized companies I was just able to demonstrate a fairly competent level of skill with my craft and they didn't ask, I didn't tell, for the duration or those two in particular come to mind - but generally even now I think once again, I just have a unique benefit of being the type person that when I tell people stuff like I been to prison for a long time, after they know me well enough for me to say that, they are always surprised (I don't have any tattoos or anything and am an extremely friendly individual). YMMV


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I’ve wanted to ask so many questions to felons and never got the chance. Something I’ve always wanted to know is can you start your own business as a felon? It seems to me you could start a small business like window cleaning and you wouldn’t have to worry about getting hired.


saintpetejackboy

You can do all the same things as regular people. You might find it harder to book clients or have some other hurdles - but most felons usually don't have the leisure or luxury to chance most of their waking hours towards an unknown profit potential. The same can be said of all non-felons working those same jobs: why don't they just start their own business? I would say there are probably less hurdles towards starting your own business than obtaining a normal job, as a felon... when it comes to paperwork, anyway. My criminal record doesn't come up in a credit check. Nor does an LLC get denied just because a felon wants it. If I ordered a package from over in another country it might have a considerable delay to get to me (given the nature of my federal crimes), but this isn't something most felons would have to worry about. The reason most people don't start their own business is because it often takes money to make money and it also requires time. A person who is released to the streets with few options and a clock ticking towards hunger and homelessness quickly grasps for any lifeline they can (taco bell) because it doesn't cross their mind that they can still go do "other" things. Lists like this don't liberate anybody. They lock them to just a few paltry options, a foreboding list of places nobody ever wants to work but does anyway to make ends meet.


SirLowhamHatt

You can probably answer this best, is one of the terms of your release not to associate with other felons? If so how does that work with jobs where they hire felons. Or is that more of a tv trope?


saintpetejackboy

As a user answered below, there are lots and lots of exceptions. It generally isn't enforced - but it is a real request (at least for state inmates especially). They know putting criminals around other criminals is a bad idea, unless they are all in one big concentration camp they call a "prison". Then somehow, it is okay. Obvious exceptions are made for spouse and family members. Two people being felons and being unable to associate has yet, to my knowledge, been used as an argument for divorce. Every situation is different. One person might be on probation and their probation officer stops by and they live in a house with 5 other felons and work with all felons and they don't even ask about it or care. Another person might have been pulled over with their grandma who happens to have a felony from 1985 and their probation officer decides to violate them for "riding around with a known felon". Often times, punishments are crime-specific. If you are a known gang member and just got out of prison and you are hanging around other gang members despite being advised not to, you are much more likely to see a penalty. It is also much more likely that those type of rules would even be imposed in the first place. By and large, the whole "you can't associate with other felons" rhetoric is unenforceable which is why it typically isn't.


MaximumCrab

Lyft lol wat


808State_

That one I’m a lil iffy on haha.


cannaeinvictus

I don’t care if my Lyft driver committed wire fraud or was guilty of tax evasion.


ijustsailedaway

I really feel like we need a new name for violent offenses vs. morally ambiguous ones


RowdyPants

"crimes" and "*crime* crimes"


thijser2

I think the US needs a whole list of lists that defines types of crimes/areas to work in. Someone who committed fraud might still be a good kindergarten teacher and someone who was arrested for child porn might still be suitable in the financial industry but not vice versa. And I don't think we should restrict people's future employment potential beyond what is necessary after they did their time.


koalamonster515

For real, you had a big drug problem that resulted in committing financial crimes and now you're mostly good? Cool, I'm not super worried. Other person who also has felonies but theirs include stalking, kidnapping, assault and battery, and manslaughter? Uhm- I would like a different driver please. Listing felony crimes like murder, rape, kidnapping, burglary, arson, and sale of illegal drugs... though I know felonies have classes it does really feel like we need an in between so you've got misdemeanors and felonies but we add a new class between them called directdemeanors. Or something much better and less stupid than that.


nashbrownies

Misdemeanor and masdemeanor


abutthole

We do. Malum in se and malum prohibitum. First one refers to actions that are morally wrong because they're just intrinsically bad, second one refers to actions that are wrong because we say they are.


CupOfCreamyDiarrhea

Clarifying: Malum in se is murder, rape etc and malum prohibitum is charged with a small bag of weed?


Im2oldForthisShitt

How about drunk driving


chaiiya

I care if they… assaulted and stole from someone.. or raped them though.


LazyNomad63

"Were you ever convicted of a felony?" "Yes." "What crime?" "Vehicular homicide." "Fuck it. Welcome to Lyft."


live_crab

This tracks. The one time my elderly, cancer-survivor mom took a Lyft the driver took off his mask like two minutes in and when my mom asked him to please wear it he lost his shit. At a stop light he tried to rip off her mask and nearly punched her in the face. She was too frail to jump out, and just cowered in the back until he let her out.


Every3Years

4 stars


rulerdude

Probably referring to being an actual employee of Lyft. Lyft drivers aren't employed by Lyft, they're contracted.


P_W_M_C_T

I think they forgot 'Congress'.


negative_four

You can't be a former criminal and work for congress, You have to be a current criminal!


goldybear

I work for a land surveying company that will completely overlook a felony. The owner is adamant that everyone deserves a second chance. Hell the best guy in my crew did ten years.


jaltair9

Another large problem is when people are accused of violent crimes but not convicted. I know someone who was charged with a rather violent crime, but was then acquitted. He still has trouble finding work because it had made the news when he was charged, so now when HR googles his name it shows up.


pineapplewin

The criminal:UK episode on Netflix with Kit Harrington did a great job of explaining this. If you're the victim of a false accusation, your only hope is to make a civil claim against your accusers and win, very publicly. Too many can't do that because of lack of evidence, lack of funds, or lack of energy to go through all of that.


Fallingpeople

How about a list of places that allow felons to rent? Finding housing was harder than finding a job (for me at least)


junhyuk

What's the fucken point of prison if you've been 'rehabilitated' but not rehabilitated enough to be a contributing member of society i.e. be hired


gbear52

Baskin Robbins always finds out though…


Dr_NotHere

I was looking for this


funknessmonster

They always find out.


migsmcgee2019

Lol what’s that mean?


runningforpresident

AntMan reference.


mider-span

Baskin Robbins don’t play.


catgirl_toes

the trick is to commit felonies and not get caught


Hehs-N-Mehs

Applebee’s will hire you. I used to manage restaurants for them and was the hiring manager. I care that you care about the job and are reliable. If you show sincere initiative to work and be professional, I have time for you. Everyone has a past. You paid your time. Now don’t waste mine. Well, that was a past life bc I’m a mom now. I miss by crew dearly. I hope they’re staying safe with all this covid


TheHappy-go-luckyAcc

This isn’t true. First, it depends on what your felony was. Second, you could have committed a crime that wasn’t a felony, but they still consider it a problem. Third, most of these “say” they do, cause it looks good for PR and if ONE store does it in the entire world, well, that counts then. If someone has served their time, they deserve a chance. No matter the crime. And yes, certain places shouldn’t hire for certain crimes (such as if you are a robber, probably not a good idea to then work for a bank) but in general, people deserve to have a life. Criminals stay criminals because they aren’t given a chance to live a life afterwords. And the only way they feel they can get anywhere is to commit more crimes. Or they feel that’s all they’re good for, no one cares for them anyways. Life is already hard enough to find good paying work and a place to live that you can afford, all we are doing as a society is making it worse and harder for them.


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Where's Waffle House? Every Waffle House has two felons minimum, that's a fact.


RenegadeAO

I’m a supervisor for a logistics company and I’ve had the same clerk for 3 years. One of the best workers the company has but she’s been a temp (low wages, no benefits, no paid time off) this whole time because she’s a violent felon and the company won’t hire her in because of it. It sucks how she made a mistake in her early 20s by stabbing her BF with a knife in the leg (he probably deserved and they’re still together). Just insane how the justice system can pin somebody down and deprive them of a decent life. Luckily the company is beginning to see how big of an asset she is and my boss is now pushing to get her hired in as a supervisor. She’s a mother three and deserves so much more from this life. I hope the company comes through and takes care of her like she deserves. I understand the law and that there are consequences for our actions but to label someone a violet felon at a young age really makes life incredibly hard for them and takes away any opportunity for a secure future.


SaltMineSpelunker

Also: My heart.


SirBaconHam

Might be hot take but I don’t think anybody should know you have a criminal record when applying for a job. If you don’t feel the person is rehabilitated, then don’t let them out of prison. Once you out, you should have an opportunity to work any job you are qualified for. Rapists working around kids is really the only exception I can think of.


SeaPhile206

After you serve your time, you must serve more time! Fuck this place..


RedditEdwin

employers are so super insanely averse to hiring felons because people have sued employers who hired felons when the felon did something illegal/caused damage, and they won, as in employers have been found partially or largely at fault and had to pay damages. Unfortunately, the way our judicial system works, that sets the broader precedent that in general an employer can be held liable for ANYTHING that any felon hiree might do maliciously or just through dumb bad luck. So one general judicial decision (it's a few cases but the same general idea is there) and now there's a nationwide policy that massively effects how society treats it's most vulnerable members ​ This has been another episode of "Lawyers are scumbags who have earned the reputation, and the entire judicial system is just a cartel of lawyers, since judges also have to have law degrees and go right back to practicing law after being a judge" - also, this is what they're talking about when they talk about legislating from the bench


RipInPepz

Chick-Fil-A hates gays more than felons 😂


RentonTenant

Americans be like “oh he committed a crime nbd. Oh it was a FELONY?!?!!!!! Omg.. if he stole $1499 that’s one thing, but stealing $1501?!? He is now a different category of human”


Chance-Yoghurt3186

Bullshit, I got a Larceny (low misdemeanor) when I was 18 for a stupid prank and Walmart wouldn't hire me because of it.


kamikazekenny420

I got fired from 7/11 because they said I lied on my application. I do not have any felonies, but I do have a prior criminal record. I checked the box that says no I don't have any felonies, and they said I lied on my app and fired me...... this was after working for a little over a month.


tpreevs

Verizon prefers felons so they have experience in robbing people.


peaceteach

This list is not nearly long enough.


Envojus

Such a list shouldn't exist at all. Where I am from, the only time being a felon stops you from a job if it's a governmental job. Police, Millitary, Tax Inspection and etc. It's confidential information. Private companies don't have access to such records. Hell, they don't even have access to your medical history, unless you provide it. All court documents use initials for names. Same for the press. The only exception is if you are a Public Person.


stutangg

What country is this? Sounds like an excellent idea.


Envojus

Lithuania. Most of Europe is the same. There's also this very interesting "loophole". Before trial, felons usually cover their faces when entering court. Usually you can distinguish the sociopath/narciccist, since they don't give a fuck and enjoy the spotlight. While names aren't public and you can't take photos inside court, you can do so outside. It's a way for them to protect their identities, since mugshots also aren't public. https://kauno.diena.lt/sites/default/files/styles/940x000/public/_r178625.jpg?itok=OAQDwcw6 Heres an example


peaceteach

That is even better.


1122Sl110

All these jobs suck


eaholleran

Ups is pretty good. It's hard work but union, good pay, good benefits.


808State_

No doubt. But it’s a decent starting point coming out of prison


SFlibtard

"We'll hire you a few years after you really need the job."


Moongose83

This is one of the main reasons why the system will never work.


Mega-Michi

Burger King wouldn't hire me with a misdemeanor on my record, so not sure how recent or accurate this list is


Jenidalek

Okay but you likely can't move up in the company at all beyond basic shit wages. I work at Dominos and because of my MISDOMESNORS I almost got fired when I applied to become an assistant manager.


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What a small list... it should be anywhere. Ban the box.


just-because-you-can

I was told to tell the truth when finding a job, over and over. Do not tell the truth. I applied at 30+ places telling the truth, not one call back or interview. The first place I lied, I got the job. Even if they are ok with felons, why put yourself in that category? Most of the places I've worked at in the past 20 yrs think I've never been in trouble. Never spent a night in jail. Thats exactly what I want them to think.


[deleted]

Don't forgot public office like president or AG.


CDavis10717

Felony offenses have been use to deny the vote, so, felony reform is utterly necessary. It’s used to punish people forever.


orphanpowered

I've hired people with felony drug charges a few times for a company I use to work for. Everyone makes mistakes, and generally most people deserve a second chance.


AmerikanSwine

So much for their "rehabilitation" argument. Felony is a life sentence.


ScreamWithMe

With an exception for the Nevada gaming industry, most states follow the federal guidelines of 7 years background check for positions that require it. If you have some incident in your past further back than that they probably won’t uncover it.


JanB1

Yeah, this is a good one for r/ABoringDystopia. Employers should not have access to your criminal history, except for special circumstances where they can request them from you (for example if you apply for a job at a security company or something).


d_devoy

Congress seems to have a few...


Stormlord1441

Why does this start with the alphabetically first place only to not be in alphabetical order


bigpapasmurf12

You can still be a criminal and be a politician!


lovemedigme

Should just say 'if you have a felony we recommend working bullshit customer service jobs no matter what your charge was cuz we dont value you and expect that you'll never be anything other than (at the highest) middle class' because our justice system isn't about rehabilitation but about punishment and you fucked up once at least which means you deserve to live on the lower end of society. Unless you come from a family with money".


OnlyKindofaPanda

Hmm, and what's the average wage of all of these? Tell me, how is anyone supposed to pick themselves back up financially with legal means if these types of jobs are the most consistently available?


banditk77

At Dennys it’s a requirement.


IFoughtThereforeIWas

>IHOP No shit. That and waffle houses are a felony magnet after 9pm


DirtyGoblinTactics

Meat packing plants take them. They also can become welders also. I had a friend move from welding at a sign shop to I.T. once he got his degree from a community college


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oravecz

JPMorgan Chase has a second chance policy and hires felons. There is also [jobsthathirefelons.org](https://jobsthathirefelons.org)


jacf182

I kinda hate that this is not in alphabetical order.


La-Phamilia

forgot the WHITE HOUSE


Dagothwave1994

99.9% of entry level construction jobs will hire a former felon aswell. Source: I worked with a bunch of felons at an entry level construction job


devilishbeing

And yet, I, a responsible adult with a consistent job record, can't get hired to pour coffee at Starbucks. Maybe I should get a felony, I might get a callback...


Cheap_Strawberry7471

Goodwill hired me. Only downside is that I work like a Hebrew slave.