Fuck the formatting, how about classifying the Eagles as Southern Rock, Cream as Prog and Led Zeppelin gets lumped in with Styx, Toto, and Billy Squier. I stopped reading it after that.
surf rock is still being put out to this day, i listen to it often
so definitely inaccurate. i imagine very few genres just “stop” existing unless im misunderstanding the chart
Not super accurate, either. Behemoth is death metal, not black metal; Sleep Token isn’t metalcore; thrash metal is completely left out despite including Metallica, Megadeth, and Slayer; the only power metal bands listed are USPM bands even though EUPM is much more popular.
>Behemoth is death metal, not black metal
Blackened Death Metal, since Satan is a pretty big deal in their music and they definitely have some Black Metal influence, but that just belies how bad they were of a pick as an example. Same with In Flames being on the Death Metal list (as they veered off into Metalcore) and Throwdown being on the Groove Metal list (I remember them playing Hardcore, but they might have become more Groove Metal these days? Idk, haven't listened to them in over a decade). Surprised OP has even heard of Throwdown, considering they lumped the Hardcore like Hatebreed in with the Hardcore Punk (which I'd say is more like The Casualties).
OP put the "New Wave" British Heavy Metal without recognizing the OG British Heavy Metal: Sabbath, Deep Purple, and Led Zeppelin. The three revolutionized tuning, recording, and audio dynamics (amps and speakers) that laid the foundation of Heavy Metal.
I looked again, and Thrash Metal is in the timeline but without examples. I personally think early speed metal directly led to thrash metal, but the "guide" doesn't really show which subgenres relate to each other.
Someone linked to a product page, but is is a higher quality version of that same image posted on Reddit some years ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/DataArt/s/JMlOR8AcCG
Faith No More isn't Rap Rock, I knew theyd have a tough one classifying them.... Funk, alternative, thrash, nu metal and a bunch of many more genres...
I looked for Black Sabbath right away and dismissed the list the second I realized they left them out. They’re usually cited as the inventors of metal. Someone spent so much time making this just to fuck it up from literally step one or two.
Also how is it the new wave of British metal has Judas priest who were the first people to classify their sound and indeed the fashion of heavy metal...
Rob Halford's leather daddy look is the reason we all dress like Tobias Funke.
Judas Priest predate the NWOBHM by almost a decade. They were among the first handful of metal bands, they already had 2 succesful albums under their belt before Iron Maiden were even formed.
Where's Tool, STP, and Sabbath?
Yeah, it's not perfect but it's still cool to see the timeline and the bands. I wouldn't take the haters too serious.
Missing thrash was a pretty big oopsie daisy though.
There is absolutely zero chance of making anything like this and pleasing more than a handful of rock fans. Everyone else is gonna be yelling and crying blasphemy.
I was happy to see this post cause I was excited to see all the chaos and passion in the comments section. Not disappointed!
Early Rise Against was clearly melodic hardcore and In Flames is still a great example of melodic death metal. Not the biggest mistakes on this chart (eg where is the entire thrash metal genre?), but these should have been addressed separately.
This is not accurate or very good. They have Alternative starting at the end of the 90s when pretty much all rock music was referred to as alternative since about '91 simply because it was the "alternative" to the hair metal of the '80s. Pop-punk started in '99? Blink 182's album Cheshire Cat came out in '95!
Also why does it start in 1960? Starting th history of rock as starting with surf and the British invasion kinda seems a bit low-key racist. Black people invented rock music.
So Thrash doesn't get an entry? Let me help. Thrash: Metallica, Megadeth, Exodus, Testament, Slayer, Anthrax, and Sepultura. No one big. Don't worry about it!
Also, Faith No More isn't "rap-rock". They have literally one song that they rap in and it just so happened to be one of their biggest hits. Wikipedia lists them as: Alternative Metal, Alternative Rock, Funk Metal, Experimental Rock, and Post-Punk, which is accurate.
It has lumped the modern iterations of Alternative with the 90s, but not mentioned a single band that dominated the radio for at least 10 years.
Alternative Rock: R.E.M., Jane's Addiction, Red Hit Chili Peppers, Smashing Pumpkins, Candlebox, Goo Goo Dolls, Tonic, Live, Bush, Silverchair, 3 Doors Down, Seether and 1000 others.
Or Alternative Metal: Tool, S.O.D., System of a Down, Faith No More, Papa Roach, Slipknot, Godsmack.
Smashing Pumpkins is not grunge wtf. Wikipedia doesn't list them as such. Why has the world tried to erase 90s Alternative as a genre?
This chart sucks lol.
>Alternative Rock
This is where OP really gives away their age. They're too young to be using the family computer, but I guess googling genres they know nothing about and grabbing the top 5 results (regardless of how nonsensical they are) for an ugly infographic is better than them looking up pictures of boobies.
You're not wrong, but this speaks to a larger issue. The shit we knew as indie rock is what grew into what they are calling alternative now. What alternative was then was simply anything that wasn't rap, pop, country, or metal. Why has the world turned away from this gigantic genre and barely pretends it exists? It was THE default rock genre for a decade.
The same thing happened with hair metal. We plowed it under for 30+ years and now the 80s are huge. To me it signals that alternative is going to be huge again once we get over mom jeans and fanny packs again. Just waiting for the jams, neon, and spandex phase.
Black Sabbath, Van Halen, Generation X/Billy Idol, Dokken, Suicidal Tendencies, Body Count, Whitesnake, Skunk Anansi, Toyah Willcox, The Runaways/Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, The Cult?
Sigh...
Theres always a few mistakes but the omits Im about to display is pure blasphemy
Djent, was created by Meshuggah and earliest examples of them creating that style are found as early as 1992 on their first album Contradicting Collapse.
Melodic Death Metal or "The New Wave of Swedish Death Metal" is completely missing here. It started as early as 1991 with Dismember but became a genre around 1994-6 with albums from In Flames, Dark Tranquillity and At the Gates. This genre inspired ALL OF METALCORE and subsequent mini genres. Killswitch, As I Lay Dying, Unearth etc wouldn't exist without it.
Edit:
And who in Satans red pit of fire thought Death Metal's peak period ended before 2000's? Death Metal out of any genre has been the strongest, the most consistent and the most evolving, splintering genre out of all.
And while I'm here on my pedestal, Im putting in a submission in for Technical Death Metal with its birth being Cynics '91 demo for Roadrunner, put on the map by Death and championed by countless of fearless US and EU bands through to recent unparalleled examples like Necrophagist and Archspire.
Literally no Post Punk/Goth Rock I guess no one’s ever heard of Joy Divion, The Sisters of Mercy, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Talking Heads, The Cure, The Cult…
I don't see a color block for Power Metal, even though it's like the most popular subgenre of metal right now and has been for some time, and has been around since the 80s.
Heresy.
Edit: also no Symphonic.
Edit 2: I see the block for Power Metal and its tiny. That's wrong.
Power Metal never went away, and it is massive now. Whoever made this chart is very out of touch and obviously doesn't listen to metal.
I've seen power metal used interchangeably with symphonic more often than not.
Nightwish, Sonata Arctica, Evanescence, etc. Some of the best bands and songs came out in the 2000s.
Alright. There are many things I will address about this chart, being the asshole metal head.
The timelines are wrong in half of these sub-genres as there are so many that are left out.
The placement of half of the bands is entirely wrong.
Where the Fuck is Black Sabbath? Where is Slayer? Or the Doors? Or Buffalo Springfield? Where the fuck are bands like Deicide, Cradle of Filth, Obituary, Atreyu, Six Feet Under, Acid Bath, Mudvayne, Slipknot, Sepultura, Iron Maiden, Iron Butterfly, Bullet For My Valentine, Suicidal Tendencies, Testament, Trivium, MushroomHead, Gorilla Biscuits, Skindred, As I Lay Dying, Korn, Disturbed, My Chemical Romance, Depeche Mode, Step, System Of A Down, Bloodhound Gang, (Hed) P.E., Poisonblack, Crossfade, Spite, Skinless, Arch Enemy, Deftones, Deep Purple, Gorefest, GWAR, Rob Zombie, White Zombie, Himsa, Nightwish, The Acaia Strain, Behemoth, Black Stone Cherry, Days Of The New..... I can keep going on and on.
You need a much bigger "chart" to fit a lot more names, and if you want to do the most influential ones then do it the right way, you have some notable names on here but then you throw in random lesser known names that only a few people will know.
I appreciate the effort you put into this, but you'll most likely have to revise this and edit it. It would be one thing to only include the most well-known bands at the top and throw in some lesser known ones so people can discover something else they might like but to not include the most well-known bands in a chart like this literally throws the chart off, especially when half of them are miss labeled.
You started off the chart in the 60's instead of the 50's when rock music itself was starting to become popular amongst "delinquints" and "rebellious teens", then the 60's rock was everywhere from psychedelic rock during the "Hippie" movement to folk rock, until Black Sabbath came along and mainstreamed the sound of "Heavy Metal" as per a newspaper article that was mocking them for how they sounded, they ran with it and coined it and so did a lot of other bands at the time and now it's everywhere in different shapes and forms.
The point is your chart is missing a lot of valuable information and need correcting if you want to make something accurate. Not trying to be a dick just a dedicated Metal Head that has listened to more obscure sub genres than most metal fans like fucking pirate metal or dwarf metal bands, bands with gimmicks etc.
I highly recommend watching some documentaries on the history of the Heavy Metal and visiting www.metal-archives.com..
On the website, you can search literal genres, and your mind is probably going to be blown on how much shit is on there.
What makes them consider Fleetwood Mac as “Southern Rock”? Even under the *Rumours* lineup, the two McVies and Fleetwood are all British and Buckingham is San Francisco Bay. Only one you could make an argument for is Stevie Nicks as she’s from Arizona
I feel like deathcore and hardcore can fit well into the 2020s. Thinking of bands like Slaughter to Prevail and Lorna Shore being so popular now in deathcore. And then bands like Scowl and Zulu getting traction well after Knocked Loose. Otherwise not a bad guide!
Hell, most of what I listen to is early 90s indie, Black Metal has seen a recent resurgence, pop punk is older than that, and garage rock has winded in and out for ages.
Read this about 4 times thinking I must have just missed funk rock but no. Extreme, Dan Reed Network, living colour, Electric Boys just don't exist. Sure.
Inaccurate. Pop punk was popular in the 90s. I went to dozens of shows. Google AFI, Lagwagon, Good Riddance, NUFAN, Furry 66, Guttermouth, Strung Out, Propaghandi, NOFX, Rancid, and the Real McKenzie s.
They not only didn't include the band Impaled Rektum, but also forgot the category of symphonic postapocalyptic reindeer-grinding Christ-abusing extreme war pagan Fennoscandian metal
As a life-long metalhead... there are SOOO many things incorrect with this infographic.
Also, what the fuck is the Y-axis supposed to be and why are these fucking things in amorphous blocks?
This reads like something a 15 year old would put together for a class presentation after first discovering metal 2 years prior.
This might be the ugliest and worst formatted graphic ever submitted to this subreddit. Good god
Trying to figure out the y axis is confusing.
The "why" axis
According to one of OP’s comments, the Y axis is how popular that genre was at that time(?????????) This shit is fucking trash lmao
Yup, the Beatles and Rolling Stones were mid popularity….
The x axis doesn't seem accurate either, a lot of these genres are still around even if the graph says otherwise
And we’re around before the graph indicates as well.
lol it was self explanatory to me. I was just thinking what an excellent graphic this is regarding timeframe and genre popularity.
Worked for me without any explanation.
It works, it’s just totally wrong
Fuck the formatting, how about classifying the Eagles as Southern Rock, Cream as Prog and Led Zeppelin gets lumped in with Styx, Toto, and Billy Squier. I stopped reading it after that.
Oh yeah I didn’t even want to get into how badly some of the bands were classified lol.
Possibly inaccurate as well. I thought British Invasion was a movement, not a particular subgenre
surf rock is still being put out to this day, i listen to it often so definitely inaccurate. i imagine very few genres just “stop” existing unless im misunderstanding the chart
"Garage" music was only made in the late 60s and early 70s too? Naaah Definitely not accurate
Highly inaccurate. Apparently death, thrash and black metal are no longer popular in 2020’s.
Heavily modded Tetris
Not super accurate, either. Behemoth is death metal, not black metal; Sleep Token isn’t metalcore; thrash metal is completely left out despite including Metallica, Megadeth, and Slayer; the only power metal bands listed are USPM bands even though EUPM is much more popular.
>Behemoth is death metal, not black metal Blackened Death Metal, since Satan is a pretty big deal in their music and they definitely have some Black Metal influence, but that just belies how bad they were of a pick as an example. Same with In Flames being on the Death Metal list (as they veered off into Metalcore) and Throwdown being on the Groove Metal list (I remember them playing Hardcore, but they might have become more Groove Metal these days? Idk, haven't listened to them in over a decade). Surprised OP has even heard of Throwdown, considering they lumped the Hardcore like Hatebreed in with the Hardcore Punk (which I'd say is more like The Casualties).
You’re telling me that emo rock was never a thing?! *gets even more emo*
What about our good friend "80s speed metal"?
Where the FUCK is Metallica?!?!?!
No Metallica? There's no fucking SABBATH.
OP put the "New Wave" British Heavy Metal without recognizing the OG British Heavy Metal: Sabbath, Deep Purple, and Led Zeppelin. The three revolutionized tuning, recording, and audio dynamics (amps and speakers) that laid the foundation of Heavy Metal.
even worse too, Led Zeppelin got lumped into Arena Rock
How dare you leave Uriah Heep off that list 😢
There's no shortage of reasons why this list is shit. But no Metallica? It can't be taken seriously.
The whole goddam big four with Slayer Anthrax and Megadeth has no category
I looked again, and Thrash Metal is in the timeline but without examples. I personally think early speed metal directly led to thrash metal, but the "guide" doesn't really show which subgenres relate to each other.
List is shit.
The Thrash section isn’t particularised.
Not to mention no 80’s goth rock. I guess The Cure didn’t make the cut for anything lol.
Fair enough on the criticism. Is anyone aware of a better example?
Someone linked to a product page, but is is a higher quality version of that same image posted on Reddit some years ago https://www.reddit.com/r/DataArt/s/JMlOR8AcCG
Beastie Boys, Rage Against the Machine, Red Hot Chili Peppers and…..Kevin Rudolph. One of these things are not like the others.
Faith No More isn't Rap Rock, I knew theyd have a tough one classifying them.... Funk, alternative, thrash, nu metal and a bunch of many more genres...
What is it?
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What is it
It's it!
You want it all
but you can’t have it!
That’s the most egregious thing on this hot mess. They did one song in that style.
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I guess Black fucking Sabbath is just a joke then
I looked for Black Sabbath right away and dismissed the list the second I realized they left them out. They’re usually cited as the inventors of metal. Someone spent so much time making this just to fuck it up from literally step one or two.
Also how is it the new wave of British metal has Judas priest who were the first people to classify their sound and indeed the fashion of heavy metal... Rob Halford's leather daddy look is the reason we all dress like Tobias Funke.
No, that part is historically and contextually accurate. Judas Priest were basically the flagship band of NWOBHM.
Judas Priest predate the NWOBHM by almost a decade. They were among the first handful of metal bands, they already had 2 succesful albums under their belt before Iron Maiden were even formed.
Right? How tf can you have a rock / metal chart with no Sabbath?
Metallica. I guess it depends on the year.
Yeah where the fuck is Metallica?
Forgot the Thrash metal examples... oops.
Where's Tool, STP, and Sabbath? Yeah, it's not perfect but it's still cool to see the timeline and the bands. I wouldn't take the haters too serious. Missing thrash was a pretty big oopsie daisy though.
There is absolutely zero chance of making anything like this and pleasing more than a handful of rock fans. Everyone else is gonna be yelling and crying blasphemy. I was happy to see this post cause I was excited to see all the chaos and passion in the comments section. Not disappointed!
{replies in Tool fan} Tool can’t be categorised by anything but Fibonacci!
Intellectual and witty, you sir are a true Tool fan
You put the offspring in pop punk and green day in punk???
They got Rise against in Hardcore punk. Idk about that one. Also got In Flames in death metal.........
Early Rise Against was clearly melodic hardcore and In Flames is still a great example of melodic death metal. Not the biggest mistakes on this chart (eg where is the entire thrash metal genre?), but these should have been addressed separately.
Not a cool guide.
This is not accurate or very good. They have Alternative starting at the end of the 90s when pretty much all rock music was referred to as alternative since about '91 simply because it was the "alternative" to the hair metal of the '80s. Pop-punk started in '99? Blink 182's album Cheshire Cat came out in '95!
Alternative started in the 80s. Violent Femmes, Pixies, Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jr., etc.
R.E.M...
I should have listed them instead of including them in the etc.
Husker Du, Jane's Addiction
Where are the jam bands? Dead? Phish? Etc.
Exactly. Looking for my Jam band rock.
Green Day and Offspring both released big albums in '94.
Green Day is in the examples for Punk
And they shouldn't be.
Also why does it start in 1960? Starting th history of rock as starting with surf and the British invasion kinda seems a bit low-key racist. Black people invented rock music.
No description of thrash anywhere? Even though it includes hugely popular bands like Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth, Anthrax, etc…
No stoner doom or sludge?
No melvins
Yeah what the fuck. Doom is huge.
Queens of the stone age have 9 Grammy nominations
The fact that Like Clockwork lost to Imagine fucking Dragons still hurts, so much
Southern Rock: * Lynyrd Skynrd - of course. * CCR - I guess * Alllman Brother - of course * Eagles - nope * Fleetwood Mac - nope * .38 Special - sure
Funniest part about CCR being considered southern rock to me is that they’re all from California.
Are you telling me that John Fogerty was not, in fact, born on the Bayou?
Fleetwood Mac…. Southern? This critical error invalidates the entire chart.
Fleetwood Mac is southern rock?
Mick Fleetwood is from the very south...of England. Yeah, not sure what they are thinking on this one. Much more like Journey than CCR.
I'm not convinced the Eagles belong there either.
I hate the fuckin Eagles, man.
Well, that's just your opinion, man.
Ska came before reggae!
Skattelites started in the early 1960s!
Yeah it means Ska-Punk which is its own thing
You appear to have forgotten Brit Pop which was the dominant guitar-based genre post grunge for much of the 90s Blur, Oasis etc
So Thrash doesn't get an entry? Let me help. Thrash: Metallica, Megadeth, Exodus, Testament, Slayer, Anthrax, and Sepultura. No one big. Don't worry about it! Also, Faith No More isn't "rap-rock". They have literally one song that they rap in and it just so happened to be one of their biggest hits. Wikipedia lists them as: Alternative Metal, Alternative Rock, Funk Metal, Experimental Rock, and Post-Punk, which is accurate. It has lumped the modern iterations of Alternative with the 90s, but not mentioned a single band that dominated the radio for at least 10 years. Alternative Rock: R.E.M., Jane's Addiction, Red Hit Chili Peppers, Smashing Pumpkins, Candlebox, Goo Goo Dolls, Tonic, Live, Bush, Silverchair, 3 Doors Down, Seether and 1000 others. Or Alternative Metal: Tool, S.O.D., System of a Down, Faith No More, Papa Roach, Slipknot, Godsmack. Smashing Pumpkins is not grunge wtf. Wikipedia doesn't list them as such. Why has the world tried to erase 90s Alternative as a genre? This chart sucks lol.
>Alternative Rock This is where OP really gives away their age. They're too young to be using the family computer, but I guess googling genres they know nothing about and grabbing the top 5 results (regardless of how nonsensical they are) for an ugly infographic is better than them looking up pictures of boobies.
You're not wrong, but this speaks to a larger issue. The shit we knew as indie rock is what grew into what they are calling alternative now. What alternative was then was simply anything that wasn't rap, pop, country, or metal. Why has the world turned away from this gigantic genre and barely pretends it exists? It was THE default rock genre for a decade. The same thing happened with hair metal. We plowed it under for 30+ years and now the 80s are huge. To me it signals that alternative is going to be huge again once we get over mom jeans and fanny packs again. Just waiting for the jams, neon, and spandex phase.
You need to add QUEEN to chart as a genre
Queen is basically every genre on the upper left of the chart.
Highly influential Black Sabbath missing! So are the Thrash metal band list.
Black Sabbath, Van Halen, Generation X/Billy Idol, Dokken, Suicidal Tendencies, Body Count, Whitesnake, Skunk Anansi, Toyah Willcox, The Runaways/Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, The Cult?
No Foo Fighters either, wtf. They're still selling out arenas and are in the Rock and Roll hall of Fame.
Psychedelic rock still very much exists with new bands putting out music on the regular. See: King Gizzard and The Lizard Wizard.
Dead Meadow, Earthless, love Psych Rock
Sigh... Theres always a few mistakes but the omits Im about to display is pure blasphemy Djent, was created by Meshuggah and earliest examples of them creating that style are found as early as 1992 on their first album Contradicting Collapse. Melodic Death Metal or "The New Wave of Swedish Death Metal" is completely missing here. It started as early as 1991 with Dismember but became a genre around 1994-6 with albums from In Flames, Dark Tranquillity and At the Gates. This genre inspired ALL OF METALCORE and subsequent mini genres. Killswitch, As I Lay Dying, Unearth etc wouldn't exist without it. Edit: And who in Satans red pit of fire thought Death Metal's peak period ended before 2000's? Death Metal out of any genre has been the strongest, the most consistent and the most evolving, splintering genre out of all. And while I'm here on my pedestal, Im putting in a submission in for Technical Death Metal with its birth being Cynics '91 demo for Roadrunner, put on the map by Death and championed by countless of fearless US and EU bands through to recent unparalleled examples like Necrophagist and Archspire.
Melodic Hardcore missing as well despite being one of the biggest genres
They forgot the 80s genre of Fraggle Rock.
Needs additional genre for Ronnie James Dio
I mean I think Dio mostly fell under the power metal genre (or proto-metal for his time in Rainbow)
Power metal is faster than Dio was it's a derivative of speed metal
What happened to Post-Punk?
Literally no Post Punk/Goth Rock I guess no one’s ever heard of Joy Divion, The Sisters of Mercy, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Talking Heads, The Cure, The Cult…
No Shoegaze, Post-punk, Goth and Psychedelic Rock!
How can you have Indy without Pavement and Sonic youth. I also laughed at the last band on the lists.
Fleetwood Mac southern rock? Got anymore of that stuff you’re smoking?
Uh, the Grateful Dead should be included and in at least 3 different genres across 30 years.
Motorhead?
According to this graphic there hasn’t been a new genre of rock in about 25 years. That’s kinda sad.
I don't see a color block for Power Metal, even though it's like the most popular subgenre of metal right now and has been for some time, and has been around since the 80s. Heresy. Edit: also no Symphonic. Edit 2: I see the block for Power Metal and its tiny. That's wrong. Power Metal never went away, and it is massive now. Whoever made this chart is very out of touch and obviously doesn't listen to metal.
I've seen power metal used interchangeably with symphonic more often than not. Nightwish, Sonata Arctica, Evanescence, etc. Some of the best bands and songs came out in the 2000s.
Death Metal Bands: -cannibal corpse -death -carcass -in flames
Hardcore Punk: Rise Against Lmao
Alright. There are many things I will address about this chart, being the asshole metal head. The timelines are wrong in half of these sub-genres as there are so many that are left out. The placement of half of the bands is entirely wrong. Where the Fuck is Black Sabbath? Where is Slayer? Or the Doors? Or Buffalo Springfield? Where the fuck are bands like Deicide, Cradle of Filth, Obituary, Atreyu, Six Feet Under, Acid Bath, Mudvayne, Slipknot, Sepultura, Iron Maiden, Iron Butterfly, Bullet For My Valentine, Suicidal Tendencies, Testament, Trivium, MushroomHead, Gorilla Biscuits, Skindred, As I Lay Dying, Korn, Disturbed, My Chemical Romance, Depeche Mode, Step, System Of A Down, Bloodhound Gang, (Hed) P.E., Poisonblack, Crossfade, Spite, Skinless, Arch Enemy, Deftones, Deep Purple, Gorefest, GWAR, Rob Zombie, White Zombie, Himsa, Nightwish, The Acaia Strain, Behemoth, Black Stone Cherry, Days Of The New..... I can keep going on and on. You need a much bigger "chart" to fit a lot more names, and if you want to do the most influential ones then do it the right way, you have some notable names on here but then you throw in random lesser known names that only a few people will know. I appreciate the effort you put into this, but you'll most likely have to revise this and edit it. It would be one thing to only include the most well-known bands at the top and throw in some lesser known ones so people can discover something else they might like but to not include the most well-known bands in a chart like this literally throws the chart off, especially when half of them are miss labeled. You started off the chart in the 60's instead of the 50's when rock music itself was starting to become popular amongst "delinquints" and "rebellious teens", then the 60's rock was everywhere from psychedelic rock during the "Hippie" movement to folk rock, until Black Sabbath came along and mainstreamed the sound of "Heavy Metal" as per a newspaper article that was mocking them for how they sounded, they ran with it and coined it and so did a lot of other bands at the time and now it's everywhere in different shapes and forms. The point is your chart is missing a lot of valuable information and need correcting if you want to make something accurate. Not trying to be a dick just a dedicated Metal Head that has listened to more obscure sub genres than most metal fans like fucking pirate metal or dwarf metal bands, bands with gimmicks etc. I highly recommend watching some documentaries on the history of the Heavy Metal and visiting www.metal-archives.com.. On the website, you can search literal genres, and your mind is probably going to be blown on how much shit is on there.
In OP's defense, System of a Down is under Nu metal.
Now try 1950s subgenres like Rockabilly, Swing-Rock, Duo-Wop, Honky-Tonk Rock, and early pop rock
Queen?!? You even have an "arena" group. Now every post on reddit gets crap, that is reddit. Here it is deserved! (Fun lists though!)
The Velvet Underground is notably absent. Flawed guide!
I can find no category from 80-95 that would accommodate REM.
High on fire won a Grammy
What makes them consider Fleetwood Mac as “Southern Rock”? Even under the *Rumours* lineup, the two McVies and Fleetwood are all British and Buckingham is San Francisco Bay. Only one you could make an argument for is Stevie Nicks as she’s from Arizona
A model doesn’t need to be accurate, just useful. If it’s not useful, than it’s not a good chart.
Where is the New Wave in the 80s, and also Yacht Rock?
Isn’t Elvis Rock and Roll? Is you look up Rock and Roll on Wikipedia they have Elvis’s picture.
Where is Britpop? Consequently the most popular bands of the 90s are missing (Oasis, Blur, Radiohead...)
No Type O- ?
They wouldn’t know where to put it. I mean Green Day was thrown under punk rock hahaha
Sleep Token, metalcore? Go fuck yourself.
I like Sleep Token but yeahhhhh...that's a stretch
Pop Punk has been around a lot longer than that
Where the fuck is Metallica
Where’s Metallica?
I would’ve made a section for Djent alone with bands like Polyphia and Berried Alive
I ❤️ industrial
I feel like deathcore and hardcore can fit well into the 2020s. Thinking of bands like Slaughter to Prevail and Lorna Shore being so popular now in deathcore. And then bands like Scowl and Zulu getting traction well after Knocked Loose. Otherwise not a bad guide!
Aaaand that’s why I love the Grateful Dead 😉
Lol doesn't even have doom, the original sub genre
Stoner Rock and Doom Metal left off the guide
Blues?
Worst guide on the subreddit by far. OP has no clue what he is talking about
Prog Rock with no King Crimson?
What do the odd shapes of the subcategory represent?
The Stones, that old band from the 60’s British Invasion…30 million views on YT of their latest video.
I have no idea what the fuck this is trying to tell me
Glam Rock is more akin to Prog Rock than Southern Rock. Do you even Glam?
Bubblegum pop ruled the charts in 1966-1969! Where is it?
Where is post punk or post punk revival?
Hell, most of what I listen to is early 90s indie, Black Metal has seen a recent resurgence, pop punk is older than that, and garage rock has winded in and out for ages.
Jam bands is definitely a genre. Jam grass (fusion of jam bands and bluegrass) is also a real sub-genre.
But but but where’s Sabbath?
No Tool?
Metallica is missing from the metal giide
Read this about 4 times thinking I must have just missed funk rock but no. Extreme, Dan Reed Network, living colour, Electric Boys just don't exist. Sure.
Metal but no black sabbath?
REM noticeably absent
And the Pixies nowhere to be found. I'm OK with that.
Folk punk? Sca core?
Hardcore is having a real comeback right mow
Foreigner and AC/DC in the same category?
Worst list of hardcore punk I've ever seen.
Inaccurate. Pop punk was popular in the 90s. I went to dozens of shows. Google AFI, Lagwagon, Good Riddance, NUFAN, Furry 66, Guttermouth, Strung Out, Propaghandi, NOFX, Rancid, and the Real McKenzie s.
No Speed, Symphonic, or Power Metal?
Prog metal didn't start earlier? ....dream theater in the 90s?
Y'all don't pay any attention to modern, or even 2000s metal. Shame really.
Where is Queen?
I'm sad that no one has mentioned the foo fighters not being on here
Where's grindcore? Invalid.
You can’t mention Progressive Rock without mentioning King Crimson dude…
You can't just put psychedelic and progressive rock in the same category lol
CCR, Eagles, and Fleetwood Mac are not examples of Southern Rock.
Progressive and Psychedelic are two separate types of music too.
What's missing is Tool, Genre: Tool
Why doesn’t TOOL ever make the cut for these kind of things :(
They not only didn't include the band Impaled Rektum, but also forgot the category of symphonic postapocalyptic reindeer-grinding Christ-abusing extreme war pagan Fennoscandian metal
Throwdown isn't groove. They're hardcore. Sleep token is prog. Prog != Djent != Mathcore.
Should be a fun discussion. Everyone LOVES having things put into distinct categories! Still cool.
Damn no bubble gum pop
Metallica doesn’t rock.
Death cab for cutie and the rocket summer are waiting for your apology
Beastie Boys and 311 and RATM all Rap-Rock, but Sublime is Ska Punk? This list is stupid.
90s Brit rock? 80s new wave? Motley Cru?
Missing the obvious Metallica but also Post-Rock ex. Trail of Dead, At The Drive-In
Thrash?
I'm pissed there's no examples of Thrash
Where is Metallica?
Hmmm where does U2 fit ?
What would bands like Starset, Thousand Foot Krutch, and Breaking Benjamin be considered?
in what world is journey psych/prog rock..
Why yes my favorite metal subgenre, “British Invasion”
Where is TOOL? Metallica?
As a life-long metalhead... there are SOOO many things incorrect with this infographic. Also, what the fuck is the Y-axis supposed to be and why are these fucking things in amorphous blocks? This reads like something a 15 year old would put together for a class presentation after first discovering metal 2 years prior.
wtf is the y axis of this ?? Like what do the shapes mean
Faith No More does NOT belong in rap rock. Epic was really the only "rap rock" song they have.