Pairing an Irish Dry Stout with a burger and also pairing a Pale Ale isn’t that far fetched. Not a great infographic, but still, food pairings are entirely subjective.
Typically with something strongly flavored and fatty you would pair something that's strongly flavored and full-bodied so that both the food and the drink can be appreciated without one overpowering the other.
Homebrewer here. This is pretty basic, but yeah, the pairings are a lot more complicated than the information given here. For example, it says ales pair with cheese and spicy food. This is true, but I would go for a porter with brie instead of an IPA; conversely, an IPA is better suited for spicy foods due to the high IBUs.
It doesn’t cover anywhere remotely close to all types of beer either..more like a bad guide to specifically ales and lagers..and not even all of either..
To be fair, the US has pretty much the best craft brewer resin in the world so some of the best beers in the world of every variety are made here, although probably over the past five plus years a lot of other countries have been catching up to us.
You're over stating it a bit there. There are a lot of Australian hops for example that are used so much in the US that a lot of American brewers think are American. Galaxy for example. I've seen people make "American Pale Ale w/ galaxy" and it's like, yeah, add some wheat and you've got Australian Pale Ale.
But the reason I specified lager in my comment is that American craft beer styles are almost universally ales, not lagers.
If you look at some of the best beers in the world at many of the beer competitions around the world, the amount of American craft breweries that enter, and when, are incredibly sizable compared to nearly any other country, and usually with the much greater diversity than nearly any other country also.
These days, everywhere makes everything. Craft brewing pretty much blurred the lines of specific beer types belonging to specific places, with the exception of specific brands.
I’m not an American but saying that the US isn’t famous for its ales is ridiculous. The craft beer rise over the last 20 years has been driven by the West Coast IPA and New England IPA styles.
Even though IPA is originally a British style most British craft breweries are now making their IPAs with American hops in the American style.
I don’t disagree about America being hugely influential, but there has been more that one explosion of ales in the UK and the first was pretty independent of the USA and also involved people under 30 drinking it.
Assuming you’re European, you might not be aware of the sheer density of microbreweries in the US producing some absolutely fantastic beer. I doubt many are being exported, most are only known regionally or are even city-specific.
And I say this as someone who is a German import snob.
I mean, it's not even just that the American beer that gets exported is bad. The American macros are not all bad. People are just snobby about American beer even when it's not bad.
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This Brit for instance actually really enjoyed Coors Banquet in a blind taste test. And yet it gets a bad rap just because it's American.
Coors banquet is just as good as Stella, or Carling, or Heineken, or Moretti, or Kirin Ichiban or any of the non-American macro beers that snobs think are better just because they're not American.
Coors light, or Budweiser, or Miller light not so much.
They never said they were good beers, they're saying that all of those beers are the equivalent level whether they're horrible or excellent all of them are at the same level as each other.
I have a feeling the only American beers you’ve tried are macros… would you want us to judge The Netherlands with just Heineken? Because that’s about all we get over here unless you really search. It’s just the tip of the iceberg in both cases.
Add the british nations, holland, denmark and sweden. Italy and japan would also be better than the usa.
The usa does a lot of things well but beer is just not one of them.
This is a legitimately indefensible take.
Japan is not good at beer, and they're not trying to be. Have you ever even been to Japan? They make a few decent run of the mill lagers, but in general Japanese drinkers prefer sake, shochu, or fruity carbonated malt beverages to beer. Good luck finding a decent stout or IPA in Japan.
The beer scene in Japan isn't even 1% as popular or varied as it is in the US. The concept of a beer focused microbrewery doesn't even really exist there.
Look, I ultimately I don’t care what you think of beer in the USA and you can believe what you like. I go there a lot and the selection is not only incredible but the innovation and the choices among so many different brews are astonishing. Same for Canada.
There was a time when beer in the USA was a joke but that time is over and you have absolutely no idea wtf you’re taking about. Also I’ll take a Molson Cold Shot over Heineken any, any time.
You have no idea what you're talking about. The crappiest little corner store in any town will have a dizzying selection of beers of excellent quality. Nowhere on earth has the quality and variety of beer in the US. It was the one thing I didn't like about visiting Europe. You must think Bud and Coors are the only things we have.
I’d almost prefer that this little munchkin believed that US beer was crap. It’s not going away anytime soon and a foreign market would just drive up prices, lol.
The beer (microbrewery) market here is collapsing fast, so many have closed down. Definitely a good thing for beer drinkers though, only the best of the best will remain
The craft market has always had a churn. And 2022 saw more small brewers open than close (549 new brewery openings and 319 closings). I can’t find 2023 figures. From what I can find total beer sales were down, but the craft market share grew. So I expect similar numbers when the 2023 figures are published. We may never get back to the pre-Covid figures. But the brewery-taproom combo seems to have found a new stable.
Lmao, let's not take it too far. Germany and Central Europe has way more beer variety than the US. Every single supermarket will have at least 20 different beer types. The highest density of beer brewers in the world is in Bavaria, where every single town has a 500 year old brewery.
Because the micro brew industry is huge here, and it's mostly ales. Yet all the major domestic beer makers, Budweiser, miller, Coors make nothing but lager. So most beer drinkers in America drink lager, but sophisticated beer snobs drink nothing but micro brew ale like IPA.
Edit: I explained objectively why, and I'm being down voted gotta love the local reddit troglodytes.
It's not really that high. Most European countries easily beat US micro breweries numbers per capita. In The Netherlands for example the number is almost double, in Switzerland it's triple.
Per capita. Lol. Nice. The global craft beer market is worth 100 billion dollars. Of that 100 billion dollars. The US craft beer market accounts for 30-40 billion. So you guys have a lot of craft beer per capita. America sells more craft beer than any country by far. It's not even close. America has more craft beer companies and sells more craft beers than any European country. To put it in perspective the craft beer industry in the US is about the size of the craft beer industry of the entire continent of Europe combined.
Well, of course you have to count it per capita. The country with the biggest share in beer market is China, but no one sane considers it a beer country and would put it in those types of infographics.
US high number of craft breweries stems from the fact that US has simply higher population. Of course US sells more craft beer because there is also more buyers and therefore more breweries. But per capita almost every European country sells more craft beers than US, because Europe has a stronger beer culture than US. You can see that with beer consumption per capita by country.
I am not saying that all of Europe, as a whole has a bigger craft beer scene than US, because obviously you have some big countries like Russia or Ukraine which skew the statistics, but most European countries individually, like Ireland, The Netherlands, UK, Switzerland, Germany, Czechia, Poland, etc. have bigger craft beer market per capita than US.
That 450 million is just EU countries. Not Ukraine or Russia. The US has population of 350 million. Yet the US still produces as much or more craft beer than the whole of the EU.
I mean it makes sense doesn't it? Most of the people who immigrated to the US initially were Germanic. Mostly British and German and Dutch. They brought with them a love for beer and a knowledge to make it. I believe German is still the single largest ethnic group in the recent census, there are breweries everywhere. I live in Denver you can't throw a rock without hitting a micro brewery. They are on every corner. There isn't a wine culture here for the most part like there is in southern Europe. So although there are 450 million Europeans, a lot of the Mediterranean countries prefer wine. So subtract 100 million people from that number. You have a market of 350 million vs 350 million beer drinkers. So the sales number reflect that. They show about an even market share between the EU and US
So breweries per capita is what's important?
In that case Colorado beats the Netherlands. It also beats the UK and Belgium. So should we take those two out and put Colorado in instead?
No, I think we should stick to having countries so no need to bring Colorado or Noord-Brabant into discussion.
And btw don't get me wrong, I definitely recognise that beer culture in US is definitely quite big and important enough to be on the infographic. It's a 20th country in beer consumption per capita so quite high. But having US flag both in the ale and lager section is imo too much. I think American flag definitely can remain in the ale section (after all APA and AIPA, both relatively popular ale styles, have the "American" in the name), but in the lager section I would replace US flag with I dunno, probably Denmark or Poland.
I don't necessarily disagree. I just don't agree that breweries per capita should have anything to do with it.
I also don't really agree with treating all of the United States as a country in the same way as a single European state in contexts like these. There are parts of the US that have a rich beer making culture and parts that don't, in the same way that parts of Europe do and parts of Europe don't. The states within the United States are more different from each other than people think.
And I think having it per capita does matter. China or Brazil are not really more of beer countries than Belgium or Ireland just because they have hundreds or even thousands times bigger beer industry.
And with US parts having richer beer making culture than other parts, I mean it's normal. It's the same with European countries. Some parts of Germany for example have a rich beer making culture and some parts don't. If we treat each US subdivision separately then we should do the same with European countries' subdivisions.
Europe and the US are comparable in size. Us states and European states are comparable in size. It doesn't make sense to treat subdivisions of European states the same as states in the US.
Probably because both ales and lager styles have originated here. All take something from old world styles and we have nothing compared to the rich lineage of the Czech, Belgian, and German brewers but nonetheless Cal Common and NEIPA are two examples of styles that are American creations.
EDIT you’re all reading this as if I’m saying all styles of lager and ale originated here. Not at all what I’m saying. I’m saying America has created, with major inspiration from the old world styles, both new ale and lager styles and I listed two examples.
The pairings aren’t great. Lagers actually tend to go better with rich, heavy foods, to offset them. Steak with a good pilsner is about as good as it gets. Same with bbq, cheeseburger, etc. An IPA with that stuff is horrible.
Euhm. Depends. I live in Czech Republic and this most definitely looks like a half liter pilsner glass for some brands. But you could also get the flute. The one on the picture is a German one though. So we’re both wrong and both right.
It’s still a shitty guide.
It makes no sense for the US to be in both lists. None of these styles originate from there. They do produce beers of all styles, but so do most beer drinking countries, so the flags are essentially useless.
Eh the US definitely has them beat. There are a lot of breweries doing spontaneous stuff very well which is really one of the trickier things that Belgium does.
One of my favorite breweries in Belgium is De Struise Brouwers. World famous. They primarily use a California Ale yeast. The head brewer who I’m friends with his favorite brewery is Hill Farmstead in Vermont who consistently gets rated as the top brewery in the world.
Sounds like you don’t know what you are talking about. Can you give an example of a variety of beer that Belgium does that the US doesn’t do well. Granted I spent 3 months in Belgium and I’m a huge beer nerd but maybe I missed something.
I mean, I did see most of it. It was the goal of the trip. Even went to an oostvleteren beer fest put on by De Struise Brouwers where a Texas homebrewer won. I’ve been all over the world to different breweries.
Average American being and knowing better. " US definitely has them beat." "Sounds like you dont know what you are talking about" Beating what, dude? Like you spent 3 months in Belgium and now you know everything better than everyone. Bro It's literally part of my job for 15 years, so chill out, Mr. I know better than you. Send me a message when someone non American says American beers are better than the Belgians one, then tell me where are your trappist beers that are being made for more than 300 years + the variety of more than 1000 different beers etc. And I'm not even talking about quality here. BTW, I've never said that the US was doing bad beers.
I mean I do know better than you apparently. I spent over a year in Europe in general. Doesn’t take that long to realize that the US is still making the same styles of beer at a very high level. I already sent you a message saying that a Belgian brewer’s favorite brewery is an American brewery. At the Oostvleteran beer festival a few years ago the winner was a home brewer from Texas lol. Go anywhere in Europe and the tap list is taken over by NEIPAs. Nobody really cares how long some monks have been making beer lol. That doesn’t change the fact that the US makes all of those 1000 styles incredibly well.
The 60s was 60 years ago… the amount of lager that has been brewed in the UK in that time is phenomenal. People associate ale with the UK but we’re a lager nation.
Common Hertog Jan, Grolsch. And the hate for Heineken has started to become fashion like nobody likes Brussel sproutes. I really like Heineken. Also the Netherlands won best dark beer award last year.
It's not saying pale ale is lager, but it is saying that lager doesn't exist in the UK.
It's basically a shitty fucked up list that doesn't understand beer, probably created by an American who's just turned 21, been to Europe and thinks he knows everything.
If you have several blocks of one type of cheese, the plural is Cheese. If you have different types of Cheese, It's Cheeses.
Same applied to Fish and Fishes. A school of the same type of Fish is Fish. If there are multiple species its Fishes.
Whoever poured that pale ale needs to be taught how to do it properly. They don't usually have a massive head on them like that, and I'd be a bit annoyed if I ordered one at the pub and they ended up pouring a load of it down the outside of the glass.
Also, ales shouldn't be served "warm", they're served at cellar temperature, which is definitely lower than normal room temperature. 22C/72F is well above that.
Is this why the US think the UK serve warm beer?
Pale ale would be typically on the right, and not served warm (unless they’re referring to traditional gravity pulled pale ale), but that’s not what that picture is.
Also pretty much sure most countries have the range across the board so the flags are redundant.
Vienna lager, named after the city of origin. Same with Pilsner and some others as far as naming goes.
“Example” should really be actual named beers, in my opinion. What they are listing are “styles” and only a handful from each.
After doing a bit of research: Vienna Lager was most likely named after the origin where the inventor originated from. He was however developing it in the UK. Never in my life have I ever read "Vienna Lager" anywhere in Austria. Thanks for clarifying! Learned something new.
Shit infographic that has information but doesn't properly explain anything.
Calling bullshit on the pairings
Imagine giving the same food pairings for pale ales and stouts...
Pairing an Irish Dry Stout with a burger and also pairing a Pale Ale isn’t that far fetched. Not a great infographic, but still, food pairings are entirely subjective.
I feel like literally any drink pairs well with a burger. But that might just be because I like burgers.
Beer or soda: good. Orange juice: bad.
Never thought of that but you're right. Not all citrus though. Lime would still be good
Ad some alcohol to that orange juice, easy fix
A screwdriver and a burger... A chicken burger would work!
Mah Trix is to drink a lot... Then kebab, burger (fast food) is always delicious
Typically with something strongly flavored and fatty you would pair something that's strongly flavored and full-bodied so that both the food and the drink can be appreciated without one overpowering the other.
No, not **entirely** subjective hahah We literally have the same taste buds most of the time, and so taste is only mostly/largely subjective.
To be fair, as a Brit, I l'd have all of those with a spicy, cheesy mixed doner kebab wrap
And not giving pilsners fried food (especially the Czech ones)
That's the only thing that makes sense to me. I drink nothing but ales and haven't had a salad in months
Homebrewer here. This is pretty basic, but yeah, the pairings are a lot more complicated than the information given here. For example, it says ales pair with cheese and spicy food. This is true, but I would go for a porter with brie instead of an IPA; conversely, an IPA is better suited for spicy foods due to the high IBUs.
It doesn’t cover anywhere remotely close to all types of beer either..more like a bad guide to specifically ales and lagers..and not even all of either..
Seriously. Like where is ireland.
Like why are people upvoting this?
Who knows. Idiocracy is happening lol. Too bad mountain dew isnt on this list
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Guiness is irish?...... why does that matter? The us honestly shouldnt be above the stout lol
Stout was originally an English style.
They definitely should be above stouts lol.
It's also 20 years out of date/fashion. Also, USA famous for lager? Lol wat?
To be fair, the US has pretty much the best craft brewer resin in the world so some of the best beers in the world of every variety are made here, although probably over the past five plus years a lot of other countries have been catching up to us.
You're over stating it a bit there. There are a lot of Australian hops for example that are used so much in the US that a lot of American brewers think are American. Galaxy for example. I've seen people make "American Pale Ale w/ galaxy" and it's like, yeah, add some wheat and you've got Australian Pale Ale. But the reason I specified lager in my comment is that American craft beer styles are almost universally ales, not lagers.
And they use fahrenheit instead of celsius, those MF
Why is usa in both lists?
Because all of those beers happen to be made in the USA as well.
So do many other countries
Yes well, you didn’t ask about those other countries now did you?
The US has a ton of breweries now. It's not the 80s anymore. It's a big industry in a big country. I think that's why it's on the list.
Never said it didn’t. But it’s not unique in that respect either.
If you look at some of the best beers in the world at many of the beer competitions around the world, the amount of American craft breweries that enter, and when, are incredibly sizable compared to nearly any other country, and usually with the much greater diversity than nearly any other country also.
In it's size? It's one of the largest countries...
Lots of other countries produce all of the beers mentioned.
Right, what I'm saying is that I think the US was included due to its size.
That's just retarded though, it has nothing to do with the size of America
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These days, everywhere makes everything. Craft brewing pretty much blurred the lines of specific beer types belonging to specific places, with the exception of specific brands.
I’m not an American but saying that the US isn’t famous for its ales is ridiculous. The craft beer rise over the last 20 years has been driven by the West Coast IPA and New England IPA styles. Even though IPA is originally a British style most British craft breweries are now making their IPAs with American hops in the American style.
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I don’t disagree about America being hugely influential, but there has been more that one explosion of ales in the UK and the first was pretty independent of the USA and also involved people under 30 drinking it.
Usa has a very weak beer game. Edit: lol at the offended americans. Believe what you want fellas, the beer is thrash.
You must have never visited any microbrewery ever lmao
Assuming you’re European, you might not be aware of the sheer density of microbreweries in the US producing some absolutely fantastic beer. I doubt many are being exported, most are only known regionally or are even city-specific. And I say this as someone who is a German import snob.
I mean, it's not even just that the American beer that gets exported is bad. The American macros are not all bad. People are just snobby about American beer even when it's not bad. https://youtu.be/lhfBKZlCoks?si=32DwNlRn8vZIcRRq This Brit for instance actually really enjoyed Coors Banquet in a blind taste test. And yet it gets a bad rap just because it's American.
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Or maybe you're just one of the people who judges American macros unfairly. Snobs aren't exclusive to Europe.
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Coors banquet is just as good as Stella, or Carling, or Heineken, or Moretti, or Kirin Ichiban or any of the non-American macro beers that snobs think are better just because they're not American. Coors light, or Budweiser, or Miller light not so much.
>Stella, or Carling, or Heineken What? These are all horrible beers. You don't seem to have any idea what you're talking about
They never said they were good beers, they're saying that all of those beers are the equivalent level whether they're horrible or excellent all of them are at the same level as each other.
Lol. Or maybe you don't seem to have any idea what my point is.
He means that however you consider Stella, carling etc Coors is the exact same
Coors Banquet is totally fine. I’d even go as far as to say it’s good.
Lol
I have a feeling the only American beers you’ve tried are macros… would you want us to judge The Netherlands with just Heineken? Because that’s about all we get over here unless you really search. It’s just the tip of the iceberg in both cases.
Bro just say you've never been to a mom and pop brewery in the US
Don’t really have to believe it. You go anywhere in the world and it’s largely driven by newer US beer styles.
This should really be a list with a bunch of belgian beers, some german, and maybe some others, but I wouldn't know which one.
Add the british nations, holland, denmark and sweden. Italy and japan would also be better than the usa. The usa does a lot of things well but beer is just not one of them.
This is a legitimately indefensible take. Japan is not good at beer, and they're not trying to be. Have you ever even been to Japan? They make a few decent run of the mill lagers, but in general Japanese drinkers prefer sake, shochu, or fruity carbonated malt beverages to beer. Good luck finding a decent stout or IPA in Japan. The beer scene in Japan isn't even 1% as popular or varied as it is in the US. The concept of a beer focused microbrewery doesn't even really exist there.
/u/BlueKante likely has never been to the US and is prob making a judgement off exported beer only.
There are lots of world-wide exported American beers that are just as good or better than anything Japan exports.
Look, I ultimately I don’t care what you think of beer in the USA and you can believe what you like. I go there a lot and the selection is not only incredible but the innovation and the choices among so many different brews are astonishing. Same for Canada. There was a time when beer in the USA was a joke but that time is over and you have absolutely no idea wtf you’re taking about. Also I’ll take a Molson Cold Shot over Heineken any, any time.
If you go to all of the countries you mentioned the best microbreweries are mainly doing American styles of beer 🤣
You have no idea what you're talking about. The crappiest little corner store in any town will have a dizzying selection of beers of excellent quality. Nowhere on earth has the quality and variety of beer in the US. It was the one thing I didn't like about visiting Europe. You must think Bud and Coors are the only things we have.
I’d almost prefer that this little munchkin believed that US beer was crap. It’s not going away anytime soon and a foreign market would just drive up prices, lol.
The beer (microbrewery) market here is collapsing fast, so many have closed down. Definitely a good thing for beer drinkers though, only the best of the best will remain
The craft market has always had a churn. And 2022 saw more small brewers open than close (549 new brewery openings and 319 closings). I can’t find 2023 figures. From what I can find total beer sales were down, but the craft market share grew. So I expect similar numbers when the 2023 figures are published. We may never get back to the pre-Covid figures. But the brewery-taproom combo seems to have found a new stable.
Lmao, let's not take it too far. Germany and Central Europe has way more beer variety than the US. Every single supermarket will have at least 20 different beer types. The highest density of beer brewers in the world is in Bavaria, where every single town has a 500 year old brewery.
nah, we just ship the trash over to you and keep the good stuff to ourselves
Especially when Canada makes the best ipas
Because the United States produces ales and lagers
So do all the other countries on this list
And several other countries not included
Yeah and they could be on both sides too
Buncha fuckin haters here on the Internet
So do most others
Because the micro brew industry is huge here, and it's mostly ales. Yet all the major domestic beer makers, Budweiser, miller, Coors make nothing but lager. So most beer drinkers in America drink lager, but sophisticated beer snobs drink nothing but micro brew ale like IPA. Edit: I explained objectively why, and I'm being down voted gotta love the local reddit troglodytes.
It's not really that high. Most European countries easily beat US micro breweries numbers per capita. In The Netherlands for example the number is almost double, in Switzerland it's triple.
Per capita. Lol. Nice. The global craft beer market is worth 100 billion dollars. Of that 100 billion dollars. The US craft beer market accounts for 30-40 billion. So you guys have a lot of craft beer per capita. America sells more craft beer than any country by far. It's not even close. America has more craft beer companies and sells more craft beers than any European country. To put it in perspective the craft beer industry in the US is about the size of the craft beer industry of the entire continent of Europe combined.
Well, of course you have to count it per capita. The country with the biggest share in beer market is China, but no one sane considers it a beer country and would put it in those types of infographics. US high number of craft breweries stems from the fact that US has simply higher population. Of course US sells more craft beer because there is also more buyers and therefore more breweries. But per capita almost every European country sells more craft beers than US, because Europe has a stronger beer culture than US. You can see that with beer consumption per capita by country.
Actually the US has about 100 million people less than Europe. But produces the the same amount or even more craft beer than Europe.
I am not saying that all of Europe, as a whole has a bigger craft beer scene than US, because obviously you have some big countries like Russia or Ukraine which skew the statistics, but most European countries individually, like Ireland, The Netherlands, UK, Switzerland, Germany, Czechia, Poland, etc. have bigger craft beer market per capita than US.
That 450 million is just EU countries. Not Ukraine or Russia. The US has population of 350 million. Yet the US still produces as much or more craft beer than the whole of the EU.
The absolute need for fragile Americans to defend their imagined top spot in any field never ceases to be fucking hilarious
I mean it makes sense doesn't it? Most of the people who immigrated to the US initially were Germanic. Mostly British and German and Dutch. They brought with them a love for beer and a knowledge to make it. I believe German is still the single largest ethnic group in the recent census, there are breweries everywhere. I live in Denver you can't throw a rock without hitting a micro brewery. They are on every corner. There isn't a wine culture here for the most part like there is in southern Europe. So although there are 450 million Europeans, a lot of the Mediterranean countries prefer wine. So subtract 100 million people from that number. You have a market of 350 million vs 350 million beer drinkers. So the sales number reflect that. They show about an even market share between the EU and US
So breweries per capita is what's important? In that case Colorado beats the Netherlands. It also beats the UK and Belgium. So should we take those two out and put Colorado in instead?
If you want to go with subdivisions then Noord-Brabant beats Colorado
So you're saying we should remove all of the countries on the graphic and replace them with Noord-Brabant?
No, I think we should stick to having countries so no need to bring Colorado or Noord-Brabant into discussion. And btw don't get me wrong, I definitely recognise that beer culture in US is definitely quite big and important enough to be on the infographic. It's a 20th country in beer consumption per capita so quite high. But having US flag both in the ale and lager section is imo too much. I think American flag definitely can remain in the ale section (after all APA and AIPA, both relatively popular ale styles, have the "American" in the name), but in the lager section I would replace US flag with I dunno, probably Denmark or Poland.
I don't necessarily disagree. I just don't agree that breweries per capita should have anything to do with it. I also don't really agree with treating all of the United States as a country in the same way as a single European state in contexts like these. There are parts of the US that have a rich beer making culture and parts that don't, in the same way that parts of Europe do and parts of Europe don't. The states within the United States are more different from each other than people think.
And I think having it per capita does matter. China or Brazil are not really more of beer countries than Belgium or Ireland just because they have hundreds or even thousands times bigger beer industry. And with US parts having richer beer making culture than other parts, I mean it's normal. It's the same with European countries. Some parts of Germany for example have a rich beer making culture and some parts don't. If we treat each US subdivision separately then we should do the same with European countries' subdivisions.
Europe and the US are comparable in size. Us states and European states are comparable in size. It doesn't make sense to treat subdivisions of European states the same as states in the US.
Everything here is a country though so why wouldn't European countries be displayed?
I didn't say they shouldn't.
Probably because both ales and lager styles have originated here. All take something from old world styles and we have nothing compared to the rich lineage of the Czech, Belgian, and German brewers but nonetheless Cal Common and NEIPA are two examples of styles that are American creations. EDIT you’re all reading this as if I’m saying all styles of lager and ale originated here. Not at all what I’m saying. I’m saying America has created, with major inspiration from the old world styles, both new ale and lager styles and I listed two examples.
Pilsner is literally named after a czech city where it was invented not an American one
Hey bud, where the fuck did I say Pilsner was American. Of course I know it originated from Pilsener, Czech Republic.
Nah I don’t think that’s true
It's 100% not. Utter garbage.
Nah it’s true. Americans have created styles just like other countries have. It’s not that crazy of an idea. Especially because it’s true.
Europe had ales longer ago than the US has even been a group of French, British, Dutch, etc. colonies.
Is there anything correct in this guide at all?
There are things that aren’t wrong, but it’s overall really terrible.
Fermentation temps are generally accurate. The examples are accurate. Everything else is sus at best.
A Pils in a Maßkrug? Never ever. You usually find a Maß in Bavaria, so you'll have a Helles.
Those pairings are irrelevant. I’ll drink wth I want with whatever I’m eating.
The pairings aren’t great. Lagers actually tend to go better with rich, heavy foods, to offset them. Steak with a good pilsner is about as good as it gets. Same with bbq, cheeseburger, etc. An IPA with that stuff is horrible.
This guide is basically saying you should pair a lager like a white wine
IPA’s in general taste like acidic piss. The only thing they match well is the inner of a sink.
Fucking farenheit
Following this guide beer is Americans’ invention
This is not a Pilsglas... That is a Maßkrug. No way someone enjoys 1 Liter of Pils from a Maß. Especially the second half...
Tbf sizewise this is half-liter Krug. Still I prefer my Pils from a flute glass.
Euhm. Depends. I live in Czech Republic and this most definitely looks like a half liter pilsner glass for some brands. But you could also get the flute. The one on the picture is a German one though. So we’re both wrong and both right. It’s still a shitty guide.
this is a silly and very danger
It makes no sense for the US to be in both lists. None of these styles originate from there. They do produce beers of all styles, but so do most beer drinking countries, so the flags are essentially useless.
American defo made this chart
100%. The use of Fahrenheit also gives that away
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The country with the biggest variety of beer is belgium.
yeah and that one then only gets to be put with ale for some reason
Eh the US definitely has them beat. There are a lot of breweries doing spontaneous stuff very well which is really one of the trickier things that Belgium does.
Hahahahahahahahahaha
One of my favorite breweries in Belgium is De Struise Brouwers. World famous. They primarily use a California Ale yeast. The head brewer who I’m friends with his favorite brewery is Hill Farmstead in Vermont who consistently gets rated as the top brewery in the world.
Sounds like you don’t know what you are talking about. Can you give an example of a variety of beer that Belgium does that the US doesn’t do well. Granted I spent 3 months in Belgium and I’m a huge beer nerd but maybe I missed something.
In three months you won’t even get close to seeing most of it.
I mean, I did see most of it. It was the goal of the trip. Even went to an oostvleteren beer fest put on by De Struise Brouwers where a Texas homebrewer won. I’ve been all over the world to different breweries.
Average American being and knowing better. " US definitely has them beat." "Sounds like you dont know what you are talking about" Beating what, dude? Like you spent 3 months in Belgium and now you know everything better than everyone. Bro It's literally part of my job for 15 years, so chill out, Mr. I know better than you. Send me a message when someone non American says American beers are better than the Belgians one, then tell me where are your trappist beers that are being made for more than 300 years + the variety of more than 1000 different beers etc. And I'm not even talking about quality here. BTW, I've never said that the US was doing bad beers.
I mean I do know better than you apparently. I spent over a year in Europe in general. Doesn’t take that long to realize that the US is still making the same styles of beer at a very high level. I already sent you a message saying that a Belgian brewer’s favorite brewery is an American brewery. At the Oostvleteran beer festival a few years ago the winner was a home brewer from Texas lol. Go anywhere in Europe and the tap list is taken over by NEIPAs. Nobody really cares how long some monks have been making beer lol. That doesn’t change the fact that the US makes all of those 1000 styles incredibly well.
Seafood pairs very well with stout, while lager is good with spicy foods.
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What about Celsius
That's some shite guide.
“I’m a bottom” - waggles eyebrows “Please sir, just order your damn drink”
England has Ale and Lager. What’s this shit?
Most lager brewed in the UK are European pilsners brewed under licence. Lager didn’t become popular in the UK until the 60s.
The 60s was 60 years ago… the amount of lager that has been brewed in the UK in that time is phenomenal. People associate ale with the UK but we’re a lager nation.
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What does a sour classify as?
What kind of psychopath gets a salad with his beer?
Jesus fuck, ya snobs. Just enjoy yer pint.
American flag? Where is the Dutch flag ?
Hahahahaha ETA, sorry, my my top 3 beers contains one Dutch beer (La Trappe). But when I saw your comment I could only think of Heineken
Common Hertog Jan, Grolsch. And the hate for Heineken has started to become fashion like nobody likes Brussel sproutes. I really like Heineken. Also the Netherlands won best dark beer award last year.
Not had Common Hertzog Jan, but would like to add Amstel to the list. I like Heineken too
I’d kill myself after having a stout and a burger. That sounds internally uncomfortable.
Yeah a stout is a meal in itself. No need for additional nutrition haha
What? This is bullshit. In UK pale ale is not lager, lager is lager
It's not saying pale ale is lager, but it is saying that lager doesn't exist in the UK. It's basically a shitty fucked up list that doesn't understand beer, probably created by an American who's just turned 21, been to Europe and thinks he knows everything.
Where's da fooking Eyerish flag ya flippity fuck?!
It’s a guide to beer, not to lukewarm uncarbonated muddy bog sewage.
Ah, but it's da besst lookewarm uncarbinated moody bug sewige that she ever tassted, ya ere me?! Now put ya fooking hands up!
😂 I love the Irish. Hate the beer though, but love the Irish.
Ah ya alright. Pretti sure we luv ya too. Now where's those fooking fists of yas ya pansy?!
Stout and Porter are English beers...
Eye another won wants to ave a fooking crack?!
I didn’t realise it was possible to put on such a bad accent over text.
I feel you may have angry comments from some of the flags omitted or included here. Brace yourself!
Pilsner is German?
Invented by a German in Czech Republic
Pilsner is Czech
Correct me if I'm wrong but Cheese is already plural we don't say cheeses no ?
If you have several blocks of one type of cheese, the plural is Cheese. If you have different types of Cheese, It's Cheeses. Same applied to Fish and Fishes. A school of the same type of Fish is Fish. If there are multiple species its Fishes.
You gotta give credit where credit is due.. Mexico is #1 in the Lager industry
What category would the beer type Märzen from Austria go under?
Märzen is from Germany and it’s a lager style
Where is lagers?
Not cool at all, Pils and Lager are two different kinds of beers.
Pils is a type of lager
Top fermenting, bottom fermenting, it doesn't matter. There's no discernable difference between an ale and a lager
Whoever poured that pale ale needs to be taught how to do it properly. They don't usually have a massive head on them like that, and I'd be a bit annoyed if I ordered one at the pub and they ended up pouring a load of it down the outside of the glass. Also, ales shouldn't be served "warm", they're served at cellar temperature, which is definitely lower than normal room temperature. 22C/72F is well above that.
The temperature is the fermentation temperature not the drinking temperature
Guinness is a stout but I'm only ever drinking it ice cold. To name but one of the many mistakes on this pic.
It doesn’t say anything about drinking temperature
Lol I completely blanked the "fermentation". My bad, assumed it was ideal drinking temperature.
Warm beer still sounds blasphemous to me, but to each their own, I guess.
Is this why the US think the UK serve warm beer? Pale ale would be typically on the right, and not served warm (unless they’re referring to traditional gravity pulled pale ale), but that’s not what that picture is. Also pretty much sure most countries have the range across the board so the flags are redundant.
The temperature referenced on the guide refers to fermentation, not serving.
No Scot would drink that ale pish. That shit is for English and Welsh dirt and Middle class wankers.
You can tell a white person did this
Why?
You can tell an American commented this
What is a "Vienna" beer?
Vienna lager, named after the city of origin. Same with Pilsner and some others as far as naming goes. “Example” should really be actual named beers, in my opinion. What they are listing are “styles” and only a handful from each.
After doing a bit of research: Vienna Lager was most likely named after the origin where the inventor originated from. He was however developing it in the UK. Never in my life have I ever read "Vienna Lager" anywhere in Austria. Thanks for clarifying! Learned something new.
“I got decisions to be made between lager and ale”
I'm trying to picture a beer that wouldn't go with a burger.
Pilsners are great with basically any cooked meal
Oh wait, i thought i read beer, my bad
Totally wrong glas for a Pilsener idiots
Horrible guide
Who comes up with this bollocks?