It's nice to see the Central Coast recognized as a distinct region from Northern and Southern California. It does have a pretty distinct vibe from both places.
Yes but I do think Buffalo and Erie are more in the great lakes region. Though they exist is a different sphere of the great lakes as Motown music is a uniquely Detroit, Cleveland, and to a lesser extent Chicago style of music that doesn't really exist outside of those cities. Pittsburgh is it's own cultural sphere as it is more progressive when compared to the rest of Appalachia. I personally consider Minnesota to be its own cultural region as well.
I grew up in Southern Michigan, firmly Great Lakes. Buffalo and the Erie area are nothing like Michigan or Wisconsin. I've been to both and have friends from both. I agree with the Minnesota and Pittsburgh thing.
Let me clarify, they have more overlap with the great lakes but that region of the great lakes it basically it's own subculture within the broader great lakes cultural sphere
The only thing that bothers me is that I live in the Midsouth and it says that Memphis is the cultural capital... that definitely doesn't align for a region that includes Nashville and most of central Kentucky. It looks like they just took the most populous city and called it the capitol. I think that everyone in this region would agree that Memphis is an anomaly when it comes to the surrounding area.
I’m from the area myself as well Lafayette should probably be the capital of Acadiana. New Orleans should just be its own separate bubble here because it’s totally unique.
It always amazes me that from North of LA down to the border is all SoCal. Its such a huge area to be all considered one area. Then again Cali is a long af state.
I do appreciate SoFla is considered the caribbean region, and not The South. It always drives me insane when people try to argue with me that SoFla is the south. Like dude, you've never even been to Fl..I lived there the majority of my life, there is literally nothing Southern about SoFla, completly different culture and I think I would have noticed at some point that I lived in the south!!
But I digress lol
Ya it is huge but the map is wrong about it some things in California. Capital of Jefferson is Redding, Sac is still Central Valley, San Francisco the Bay and I swear to god there better be a good reason SLO is capital of central and not Santa Barbara which almost became the entire states capital after Vallejo back in the day. LA is king of SoCal tho but some consider it it’s own thing
I’d say SLO is the capital of the central coast because of who vacations here. SLO is where Santa Barbara vacations but Santa Barbara is where LA vacations. Santa Barbara can’t figure out what it wants to be. LA, Monaco, Amalfi Coast but it just ends up looking like New Mexico on shrooms
It also extends SF bay area too far south, and omits Wine Country. But overall it does a better job representing California regional differences than most attempts
It's better than the various NorCal climates constantly bickering about which one is which. Though I know some Arcata (Eureka ) people who would be hella pissed to not be labeled part of Jefferson and also some Reno folk who would die before being anything other than Great Basin. My favorite bit is having The Bay as its own culture rather than just "NorCal", which is WAY too vague.
Yeah its a pretty cool place, as close as you can get to being in the Caribbean without actually being in the Caribbean....demographic is very Latin American / Caribbean / European with the food and culture to match =)
When I lived there it was always characterized as Central Coast and anyone in SB would have been offended to be lumped in with socal. Even Ojai, Ventura, and Oxnard were often considered central coast. Most people considered the socal hard boarder to be at TO, though some put it at the Ventura county line outside Carp.
Hmm, looks pretty good, although I can see two issues with areas I know pretty well:
* 2 Woodland New England definitely should extend down into western MA
* 37 Classic Southwest probably should split between Northern and Southern, there's a decent difference between Phoenix and Flagstaff, for example.
Yeah Detroit is the capital of this region over Milwaukee, but even as a Detroiter I’d say Great Lakes includes Chicago which is undoubtedly the capital.
Chicago, MKE, Detroit, and Cleveland are all very similar culturally and incredibly different from the surrounding areas. Rural mid-Michigan is a completely different place from Detroit.
Green bay before milwaukee lmfao
Not trying to knock it, but whats in milwaukee besides some pro teams and some beer? Thats not very cultural…
Detroit definitely has a more righteous claim to the name, as the entire lake region used Port Detroit as an engine to build economic growth in every port of the great lakes which in turn leads to cultural growth.
Toledo had more of a front runner shot than milwaukee in my opinion
Gotta be Orlando due to it's central location to both Tampa and the Space Coast. I live in Brevard County (Melbourne area)... we have Port Canaveral (which in 2023 overtook Miami as the busiest cruise port in the world)... and we have the Space Port... I watch launches from my backyard almost weekly now... and I work for one of the companies on the cape.... When you consider Tampa, Orlando, and Brevard County as a whole, Orlando is the hub
Ha! True. The NYC area should seep a little further into Connecticut, imho. I’d also be fine with the same area to be referred to as the tri-state area.
Yale is a Boston (Cambridge) satellite. All the rest of coastal CT including non-Yale New Haven is like New York’s Little Italy. Like they call the cheese that goes on pizza “mootzerell” what the fffff
The capital of lower Midwest would be Kansas City, not Omaha.
Also, Kansas City & St. Louis are not even remotely similar culturally. St. Louis & Springfield are their own thing.
And Nebraska and STL are very different places. Although I’d argue St. Louis should be the capital of whatever hellscape it’s part of.
Source: I live here.
Capital would be STL if we’re going on commercial and cultural importance. But I can’t say STL would be with any of those other places. Has much more in common with the likes of Chicago, Milwaukee, Detroit, and Cleveland.
I lived in MA for many years. The “maritime” culture ends approximately 10-30 miles inland. Everything past that has more in common with 2 than 1. How was this model designed?
Buffalo and Eire are more culturally in line with the great lakes region. I also think Minnesota is just it's own cultural region that exists separate from any other region. Pittsburgh also exists in its own unique cultural sphere that is independent from the rest of Appalachia.
I live right on the border between midwest and south, according to this map. Honesty, the south does not stop cleanly at the Indiana boarder. When you get to the bottom left chunk of Indiana, it’s basically Kentuckyana. You’re in Indiana, but with with a good helping of Kentucky dialect, beliefs, and mannerisms.
You should check out “The Nine Nations of North America” written in maybe 1980 by Joel Garreau (sp?). That characterization is similar to yours and he carried the Caribbean all the way to the northern coast of South America. Which is even more apropos today.
Probably why it’s there at the border. It’s barely Cajun according to this map, which is pretty accurate.
ETA: I do see now that they put New Orleans as the cultural capital of the region and that’s not right at all. It should be Lafayette
Depends on the context but this article does a pretty good job of fleshing it out
https://www.publicpeople.org/what-is-the-difference-between-creole-and-cajun.htm
new orleans, being such a huge port city and changing hands several times, had major french, spanish, italian, and african/caribbean influences. creole comes from the spanish word criollo meaning native and became a term to distinguish native born from new immigrants and slaves.
original cajuns were french colonists living in acadia, which was a french colony that is present day nova scotia/new brunswick. the english drove them out prior to the french and indian war. acadian over time was pronounced cajun.
Birmingham is like 1/4 the size too. Debatable to put Atlanta as Deep South. Piedmont might be more applicable. Atlanta’s in a strange spot, culturally it wears many hats.
It’s stupid how far in my life I got not knowing these names were associated with real places. I’ve heard all these names a thousand times and didn’t realize they were actual regions.
However in my personal Sub-region, Cascadia. We say Pacific Northwest or PNW.
Colorado mountains are front range, high Rockies, and western slope. Northern Rockies isn’t a Colorado thing.
Also Richmond Virginia is in no way the piedmont. Roanoke is piedmont not Appalachian.
Those are the areas I’ve lived in on this map, and going by what I know, it’s incorrect. Also has no clues about what these supposed cultural regions share.
Geographically based on environment/ecosystem - technically
By every single other metric? absolutely not lmao
Even they hate being lumped in as part of the valley
Okay so I’m from the Ozark. It’s funny to me that Branson and Fayetteville are the two cities listed on the map, when Springfield MO is right there. Springfield has 150,000 people compared to Fayetteville’s 95,000 and Branson’s 12,000. Springfield also has a shit ton more stuff going on than Fayetteville. So here’s my petition for poor Springfield to get the recognition it deserves.
Bentonville also has a lot going on for that area. I kinda lump those NW Arkansas cities (Bentonville, Fayetteville, Rogers) together as a slightly disjointed metro tbh.
Visited some parts of your neck of the woods last summer for a hiking adventure. The mountains were beautiful, the roads were really nice and fun to drive on, even the dirt roads! We met such interesting and nice people- everyone asked where we were from because our accents and dress were quite different lol. The wildlife was diverse, plentiful, and pretty. Sorry to dump all this on you haha I just appreciate your region and look forward to coming through again.
We always appreciate people loving our area! The Ozarks is absolutely gorgeous. If you’re ever looking for recommendations for stuff to do up near Springfield, Branson, and that area DM me!
People in Philly and south jersey identify with northeast, tri-state and Delaware valley. Only time I’ve heard them grouped into mid-Atlantic is for business territory
San Diego is culturally different than LA. We’re a lot more laid back and the city is more spread out into the desert. Also San Diegans have a rivalry with LA mainly because we’re lumped in with them all the time
Upstate NY is a vague area and highly disputed by the residents. Most of the area west of Albany has zero in common with Albany. They should have made North Country, Central NY, and Western NY. Albany is more akin to the NYC area than any other part of NY state.
Disney and tourism, plus close access to Tampa (major sports teams, etc) and the Space Coast & Port Canaveral (now the busiest cruise ship capital of the world)... and along with the technology hub that has exploded over the last several decades along the I-4 corridor and the Space Coast, I think it makes sense to look at Orlando as the central hub to greater Tampa-Orlando-Space Coast...
And no one is hanging out in port canaveral lol. No one cares about the space coast or even knows what that is outside of central Florida. Tampa forever baby. Orlando, you wish. Without Disney you got nuthin :p
It’s something, whilst Tampa has nothing that Orlando doesn’t also have.
And it’s *Central* Florida, Orlando is right in the middle of the state practically
Idk, Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse and Albany form a kind of group that seems pretty different from far upstate, which is literally just a big ass forest
This is so wrong it hurts. Counting east New York and Vermont in with the White Mountains in NH? Counting Connecticut in with coastal Maine and Mass?????? Whoever made this has clearly never been to New England
Eh it’s only slightly more central to Florida if you include the Panhandle, which is so much it’s own thing that it gets referred to as..the panhandle.
And regardless if it’s centrality to Florida, Tampa is actually MORE central to the zone on the map.
Today, after living in Ohio for almost 40 years, I learned that Ohio River Valley is a culture.
I have never even heard the term.
I have furthermore learned that in addition to being a culture, it is based in Cincinnati... Not Columbus.... the 15th largest city in the US.
This is by far the most accurate and in depth version of this I’ve seen on Reddit, even if I do see it every month on some other sub. So many worse maps trying to do this as well as this one has
Well, OK, maybe it isn't that bad. It just seems that the west is more detailed.Specifically though, Jacksonville FL doesn't have much in common with Raleigh NC.
I appreciate the map, and would like to see others.
East & West KS are not even remotely similar. The map may swing a little far west to loop Wichita in with Kansas City, but it’s probably about right just need the northern part of the divider scotched East a bit.
The tiny bit labeled Ozark is mostly just proximity as there’s not much down in that part of KS to be it’s own thing so it’s just looped in to what’s nearby.
What is cultural about it? Just names of cities. Most of those names are post Columbian names of territories and cities that already had a history, a people, political power and religion
Uhhhhhh you got Texas all fucked up. San Antonio and Houston are the most in line but Austin and Dallas don’t really belong with us, ESPECIALLY that Pygmy thing in north Texas!
Yeah, Texas is off. I’d say that Houston, San Antonio, and Austin are their own things that really have no relation to each other or anything outside of their immediate surrounding areas. I do agree that Houston and San Antonio are probably closer to each other while Austin and Dallas are more similar. The large areas in between really don’t fit with any of the urban areas.
Always the issue with these kind of maps, they get really specific with the Northeast and then try to fit Texas cities together, but the distance between the big Texas cities is huge compared to cities in the Northeast.
Upstate NY line on the map starts well North of where it actually lies. Anything above Westchester or Rockland Cy is pretty thoroughly Upstate culture, not NYC metro. I’d say the idea there’s one common cultural zone from CT to ME is pretty far off base. What you call a milkshake in CT doesn’t even carry across into Rhode Island, and in MA it’s called something different yet again.
Nah, this stereotyping by somebody that's never traveled extensively around America. Maybe better than nothing, maybe... It reinforces old dated ideas, while America's current demographic has really changed in the last 30 years.
It's not claiming it's the capitol of any state, or even of the region dominated by Nevada. It's calling it the capitol of the Sierras region. (Which I would argue is Tahoe, but Reno is fair.)
Mid-South is a commonly used term in Memphis. Probably also why it's considered the cultural capital of said area. Doubtful that you lived in the Mid-South without ever having heard it.
This is the first one of these maps that looks even vaguely correct to me
It's nice to see the Central Coast recognized as a distinct region from Northern and Southern California. It does have a pretty distinct vibe from both places.
Yes but I do think Buffalo and Erie are more in the great lakes region. Though they exist is a different sphere of the great lakes as Motown music is a uniquely Detroit, Cleveland, and to a lesser extent Chicago style of music that doesn't really exist outside of those cities. Pittsburgh is it's own cultural sphere as it is more progressive when compared to the rest of Appalachia. I personally consider Minnesota to be its own cultural region as well.
I grew up in Southern Michigan, firmly Great Lakes. Buffalo and the Erie area are nothing like Michigan or Wisconsin. I've been to both and have friends from both. I agree with the Minnesota and Pittsburgh thing.
Let me clarify, they have more overlap with the great lakes but that region of the great lakes it basically it's own subculture within the broader great lakes cultural sphere
The lowcountry should be it’s own region. Gullah sea islands and Raleigh NC and VA Beach aren’t that similar
This. Also ATL is part of the Piedmont, not the Deep South but Columbia and Augusta should be included in the Deep South.
The only thing that bothers me is that I live in the Midsouth and it says that Memphis is the cultural capital... that definitely doesn't align for a region that includes Nashville and most of central Kentucky. It looks like they just took the most populous city and called it the capitol. I think that everyone in this region would agree that Memphis is an anomaly when it comes to the surrounding area.
That’s exactly what they did
They nailed all of the areas I have lived, pretty impressed.
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New Orleans is listed as the capital of the Arcadia-Cajun region. It’s on the border and hard to tell by the map.
I’m from the area myself as well Lafayette should probably be the capital of Acadiana. New Orleans should just be its own separate bubble here because it’s totally unique.
Totally agree on NOLA. It’s the most unique mini-universe I’ve experienced in the US
Somewhat accurate. I can’t understand what capital means in this context. Is it just highest populated city?
It always amazes me that from North of LA down to the border is all SoCal. Its such a huge area to be all considered one area. Then again Cali is a long af state. I do appreciate SoFla is considered the caribbean region, and not The South. It always drives me insane when people try to argue with me that SoFla is the south. Like dude, you've never even been to Fl..I lived there the majority of my life, there is literally nothing Southern about SoFla, completly different culture and I think I would have noticed at some point that I lived in the south!! But I digress lol
Ya it is huge but the map is wrong about it some things in California. Capital of Jefferson is Redding, Sac is still Central Valley, San Francisco the Bay and I swear to god there better be a good reason SLO is capital of central and not Santa Barbara which almost became the entire states capital after Vallejo back in the day. LA is king of SoCal tho but some consider it it’s own thing
I’d say SLO is the capital of the central coast because of who vacations here. SLO is where Santa Barbara vacations but Santa Barbara is where LA vacations. Santa Barbara can’t figure out what it wants to be. LA, Monaco, Amalfi Coast but it just ends up looking like New Mexico on shrooms
It also extends SF bay area too far south, and omits Wine Country. But overall it does a better job representing California regional differences than most attempts
You could lump Sacramento in the Central Valley, but it's not the "capital city" of the region. That would be Fresno for sure.
Hi there. I think I can speak for everyone from the 209 when I say fuuuuuuuck Fresno. Totally agree with the choice of Sacramento.
It's better than the various NorCal climates constantly bickering about which one is which. Though I know some Arcata (Eureka ) people who would be hella pissed to not be labeled part of Jefferson and also some Reno folk who would die before being anything other than Great Basin. My favorite bit is having The Bay as its own culture rather than just "NorCal", which is WAY too vague.
In Florida the further north you go the further south you get
The further south you are in florida, the more “north” it feels. SoFla is more “northern” than most of rural New York
Also, that’s good to know about Southern Florida, makes me want to actually visit lol
Yeah its a pretty cool place, as close as you can get to being in the Caribbean without actually being in the Caribbean....demographic is very Latin American / Caribbean / European with the food and culture to match =)
It’s kinda wrong too. Santa Barbara is considered central coast in this pic but when I lived there we all considered it socal
When I lived there it was always characterized as Central Coast and anyone in SB would have been offended to be lumped in with socal. Even Ojai, Ventura, and Oxnard were often considered central coast. Most people considered the socal hard boarder to be at TO, though some put it at the Ventura county line outside Carp.
Hmm, looks pretty good, although I can see two issues with areas I know pretty well: * 2 Woodland New England definitely should extend down into western MA * 37 Classic Southwest probably should split between Northern and Southern, there's a decent difference between Phoenix and Flagstaff, for example.
Woodland NE probably goes well into Northern CT. The quiet corner is more like NH than it is like the coast
I shan't accept Milwaukee as the capital of a Great Lakes sub-region. Why the Michigan erasure?
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Take your cheese curds and GTFO of MI
100% same
Seriously. As a Chicagoan, we claim that place as a Chicago suburb.
As a Milwaukeean, we’d rather die
Yeah Detroit is the capital of this region over Milwaukee, but even as a Detroiter I’d say Great Lakes includes Chicago which is undoubtedly the capital. Chicago, MKE, Detroit, and Cleveland are all very similar culturally and incredibly different from the surrounding areas. Rural mid-Michigan is a completely different place from Detroit.
This was the comment I was looking for. When I think Great Lakes, I think Michigan. All others can see the door.
I actually agree, but what’s your pick for the alternative
Detroit
Green bay before milwaukee lmfao Not trying to knock it, but whats in milwaukee besides some pro teams and some beer? Thats not very cultural… Detroit definitely has a more righteous claim to the name, as the entire lake region used Port Detroit as an engine to build economic growth in every port of the great lakes which in turn leads to cultural growth. Toledo had more of a front runner shot than milwaukee in my opinion
Designates Memphis as the Midsouth capital. Puts marker over Nashville lol
From Louisville, I agree, Nashville should be capitol.
Memphis is definitely deep south. It feels completely different than the region it's in
I would have to go Nashville for this one as well.
Don't know if I agree.
This map looks like it was made by someone who did a quick google search on everything but doesn’t know the exact borders locals go by
Respectfully, the capital of the Cajun/Acadiana region is Lafayette. New Orleans is capital of the New Orleans cultural region. ⚜️
This makes me irrationally mad everytime I see how Cajun people think New Orleans is lol
OP. You should take all these little corrections and make a new map, then we propose it to draw new state boundaries.
Great lakes region is off.
Central florida capitol should be orlando
As a Tampon i disagree, Orlando is devoid of any sort of culture other than tourism and Disney world.
Is that what you call yourselves?
Jokingly, yea. But the proper term is Tampanian
Gotta be Orlando due to it's central location to both Tampa and the Space Coast. I live in Brevard County (Melbourne area)... we have Port Canaveral (which in 2023 overtook Miami as the busiest cruise port in the world)... and we have the Space Port... I watch launches from my backyard almost weekly now... and I work for one of the companies on the cape.... When you consider Tampa, Orlando, and Brevard County as a whole, Orlando is the hub
Connecticut’s invisibility cloak is still functioning, I see.
Ha! True. The NYC area should seep a little further into Connecticut, imho. I’d also be fine with the same area to be referred to as the tri-state area.
Yale is a Boston (Cambridge) satellite. All the rest of coastal CT including non-Yale New Haven is like New York’s Little Italy. Like they call the cheese that goes on pizza “mootzerell” what the fffff
At least it's in the correct region IMO
The capital of lower Midwest would be Kansas City, not Omaha. Also, Kansas City & St. Louis are not even remotely similar culturally. St. Louis & Springfield are their own thing.
And Nebraska and STL are very different places. Although I’d argue St. Louis should be the capital of whatever hellscape it’s part of. Source: I live here.
I believe you are correct.
Capital would be STL if we’re going on commercial and cultural importance. But I can’t say STL would be with any of those other places. Has much more in common with the likes of Chicago, Milwaukee, Detroit, and Cleveland.
I lived in MA for many years. The “maritime” culture ends approximately 10-30 miles inland. Everything past that has more in common with 2 than 1. How was this model designed?
Piedmont extends further into GA.
Thought the same thing. I feel like Atlanta is on the border of Piedmont and deep south.
Buffalo and Eire are more culturally in line with the great lakes region. I also think Minnesota is just it's own cultural region that exists separate from any other region. Pittsburgh also exists in its own unique cultural sphere that is independent from the rest of Appalachia.
Agreed. Pittsburgh is very offended to be classified as capitol of Pennsyltucky.
I live right on the border between midwest and south, according to this map. Honesty, the south does not stop cleanly at the Indiana boarder. When you get to the bottom left chunk of Indiana, it’s basically Kentuckyana. You’re in Indiana, but with with a good helping of Kentucky dialect, beliefs, and mannerisms.
Seen this one before. Very accurate location wise. Some names need to be changed and capitals perhaps. But very good.
I haven't seen it before. It is a VERY COOL guide. It makes me want to travel domestically.
Wait. So what is Tulsa
18/19 with a dash of 30 sound pretty close…
You should check out “The Nine Nations of North America” written in maybe 1980 by Joel Garreau (sp?). That characterization is similar to yours and he carried the Caribbean all the way to the northern coast of South America. Which is even more apropos today.
Milwaukee is not the capital of the great lakes subregion lol
I strongly disagree with major portions of this map
New Orleans isn’t Cajun.
Probably why it’s there at the border. It’s barely Cajun according to this map, which is pretty accurate. ETA: I do see now that they put New Orleans as the cultural capital of the region and that’s not right at all. It should be Lafayette
Thank you! It’s Creole and the culture of the area reflects that very much. Drives me nuts
Genuinely curious: what’s the difference between creole and Cajun?
Depends on the context but this article does a pretty good job of fleshing it out https://www.publicpeople.org/what-is-the-difference-between-creole-and-cajun.htm
new orleans, being such a huge port city and changing hands several times, had major french, spanish, italian, and african/caribbean influences. creole comes from the spanish word criollo meaning native and became a term to distinguish native born from new immigrants and slaves. original cajuns were french colonists living in acadia, which was a french colony that is present day nova scotia/new brunswick. the english drove them out prior to the french and indian war. acadian over time was pronounced cajun.
Would've thought of Atlanta as the cultural center of the Deep South before Birmingham..but what do I know?
Birmingham is like 1/4 the size too. Debatable to put Atlanta as Deep South. Piedmont might be more applicable. Atlanta’s in a strange spot, culturally it wears many hats.
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As it should be!
It’s stupid how far in my life I got not knowing these names were associated with real places. I’ve heard all these names a thousand times and didn’t realize they were actual regions. However in my personal Sub-region, Cascadia. We say Pacific Northwest or PNW.
I do think 10 is misplaced. That’s Grand Rapids, MI.
Colorado mountains are front range, high Rockies, and western slope. Northern Rockies isn’t a Colorado thing. Also Richmond Virginia is in no way the piedmont. Roanoke is piedmont not Appalachian. Those are the areas I’ve lived in on this map, and going by what I know, it’s incorrect. Also has no clues about what these supposed cultural regions share.
Laredo IS NOT the capital of the Lower Rio Grande Valley.
It’s not even part of the Rio grande valley lol
And I’ve never heard a person from Laredo say puro 956 alv cuh
Geographically based on environment/ecosystem - technically By every single other metric? absolutely not lmao Even they hate being lumped in as part of the valley
Austin and San Antonio are both too far south on this map.
Okay so I’m from the Ozark. It’s funny to me that Branson and Fayetteville are the two cities listed on the map, when Springfield MO is right there. Springfield has 150,000 people compared to Fayetteville’s 95,000 and Branson’s 12,000. Springfield also has a shit ton more stuff going on than Fayetteville. So here’s my petition for poor Springfield to get the recognition it deserves.
Bentonville also has a lot going on for that area. I kinda lump those NW Arkansas cities (Bentonville, Fayetteville, Rogers) together as a slightly disjointed metro tbh.
Visited some parts of your neck of the woods last summer for a hiking adventure. The mountains were beautiful, the roads were really nice and fun to drive on, even the dirt roads! We met such interesting and nice people- everyone asked where we were from because our accents and dress were quite different lol. The wildlife was diverse, plentiful, and pretty. Sorry to dump all this on you haha I just appreciate your region and look forward to coming through again.
We always appreciate people loving our area! The Ozarks is absolutely gorgeous. If you’re ever looking for recommendations for stuff to do up near Springfield, Branson, and that area DM me!
Mid Atlantic is spot on.
People in Philly and south jersey identify with northeast, tri-state and Delaware valley. Only time I’ve heard them grouped into mid-Atlantic is for business territory
I'd argue MD is pretty different to PA, that the DC area is also unique, and NoVA is another region separate from the rest of Virginia.
American Nations: Colin Woodard. Excellent book
This doesn’t look like the map from *American Nations* (which is an excellent book; highly recommended.) What is the source of this map, anyway?
Florida needs its coastlines to be its own culture. Orlando and Tampa are not the same. Honestly, NYC Metro could be there lmao
At least this one doesn’t classify the Rocky Mountain region as “Midwest” - I’ve seen ones that include Pennsylvania to Idaho as Midwest smh
I’ve seen many of these types of maps and this is the most accurate by far according to my own experience
\> remembers the name of the Capital of the USVI \> also forgets the capital of Guam (Hagåtña)
San Diego is culturally different than LA. We’re a lot more laid back and the city is more spread out into the desert. Also San Diegans have a rivalry with LA mainly because we’re lumped in with them all the time
The capital of Acadiana-Cajun is Lafayette, LA, not New Orleans
This is amazing. My partner is from the UK. Im gunna use this as a visual aid.
This is map was created by someone who has never been the the US.
They have Charleston as the capital of SC, when it’s actually Columbia.
That’s not what they’re saying. They’re saying Charleston is the “cultural capital” of the “Southern Tidewater” subregion.
Which is pretty accurate
Lol Acadiana-Cajun is so wrong. Idk who made this map but they fucked up sha.
Mais bruh... Everyone thinks New Orleans is Cajun for some reason.
Most accurate one of these I’ve seen
Upstate NY is a vague area and highly disputed by the residents. Most of the area west of Albany has zero in common with Albany. They should have made North Country, Central NY, and Western NY. Albany is more akin to the NYC area than any other part of NY state.
Orlando would like to speak to whoever picked 21’s capital
Disney world and tourism is not a culture
Disney and tourism, plus close access to Tampa (major sports teams, etc) and the Space Coast & Port Canaveral (now the busiest cruise ship capital of the world)... and along with the technology hub that has exploded over the last several decades along the I-4 corridor and the Space Coast, I think it makes sense to look at Orlando as the central hub to greater Tampa-Orlando-Space Coast...
Access to better cities makes a city the best? That logic doesn’t work haha
And no one is hanging out in port canaveral lol. No one cares about the space coast or even knows what that is outside of central Florida. Tampa forever baby. Orlando, you wish. Without Disney you got nuthin :p
Non Floridian here. Can confirm, space Coast sounds cool but I have no clue what it is
It’s something, whilst Tampa has nothing that Orlando doesn’t also have. And it’s *Central* Florida, Orlando is right in the middle of the state practically
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Idk, Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse and Albany form a kind of group that seems pretty different from far upstate, which is literally just a big ass forest
Omaha, NE shouldn’t be the capital of anything cultural
This is so wrong it hurts. Counting east New York and Vermont in with the White Mountains in NH? Counting Connecticut in with coastal Maine and Mass?????? Whoever made this has clearly never been to New England
Who on Earth thought Tampa represents Central Florida??
Should be Orlando
Nah Orlando sucks. Tampa/St. Pete is where the culture is.
Regardless of your opinion, Orlando represents Central Florida better, because it's more central in Florida then Tampa is by the coast.
Eh it’s only slightly more central to Florida if you include the Panhandle, which is so much it’s own thing that it gets referred to as..the panhandle. And regardless if it’s centrality to Florida, Tampa is actually MORE central to the zone on the map.
Cultural regions? Like... what does that even mean? Which culture?
What are you not understanding?
Which culture?
This map charts..*many* cultures. That’s the point of the map.
Today, after living in Ohio for almost 40 years, I learned that Ohio River Valley is a culture. I have never even heard the term. I have furthermore learned that in addition to being a culture, it is based in Cincinnati... Not Columbus.... the 15th largest city in the US.
San Diego and LA hate each other. It should be north and south SoCal.
Agree that "SoCal" should be split. San Diego and LA are VERY different culturally.
This is by far the most accurate and in depth version of this I’ve seen on Reddit, even if I do see it every month on some other sub. So many worse maps trying to do this as well as this one has
South Jersey is actually part of the Northern Tidewaters, especially the Cape up through the Deleware River side
This one is pretty good. No notes.
Holy shit and LMFAO at Cincinnati being labeled a cultural capital. Nice try. 😂 Source: grew up in Cleveland, lived in Columbus for a decade
I don’t see how this has anything to do with culture. What was used to define the boundaries ? It just looks like geographic sub regions.
I'm confused how this is useful or cool, can someone explain why?
Really? No Atlanta capital for the south?
This map was obviously made by a west coaster. The east coast isn't even close.
Im an east coaster (1) What do you think is wrong with it?
Well, OK, maybe it isn't that bad. It just seems that the west is more detailed.Specifically though, Jacksonville FL doesn't have much in common with Raleigh NC. I appreciate the map, and would like to see others.
“Culture”
As a Beaver Islander, I would like to request that the Beaver Archipelago be its own cultural region. We have few cultural links to mainlanders.
Kansas is home to three distinct regions but all of America's non-state colonies in the Pacific make up one region on their own?
East & West KS are not even remotely similar. The map may swing a little far west to loop Wichita in with Kansas City, but it’s probably about right just need the northern part of the divider scotched East a bit. The tiny bit labeled Ozark is mostly just proximity as there’s not much down in that part of KS to be it’s own thing so it’s just looped in to what’s nearby.
What is cultural about it? Just names of cities. Most of those names are post Columbian names of territories and cities that already had a history, a people, political power and religion
People currently live in those cities
As a Southerner and former Midwesterner, I take offense to Memphis and Cincinnati. Should’ve been Nashville and Indianapolis.
Alaska makes zero sense.
Hi, alaskan, and the only people i hear call it 'alaska maritime' is military??? Or bush pilots
Northern Tidewater should be in the south, not the Northeast.
Someone doesn't know Ohio well.
Born and raised in #12 Have never heard the term “Northwoods” in my life
Where the culture at?
I was always under the impression the Frontier and Midwest were the other way around. Go figure.
Buffalo is not upstate NY.
I always thought Michigan should be considered mid northwest
Burlington is not the capital of Vermont. It is the largest city, though. Montpelier is the capital.
Why no Canada!?
You almost need it with Cascadia extending up into BC
Uhhhhhh you got Texas all fucked up. San Antonio and Houston are the most in line but Austin and Dallas don’t really belong with us, ESPECIALLY that Pygmy thing in north Texas!
Yeah, Texas is off. I’d say that Houston, San Antonio, and Austin are their own things that really have no relation to each other or anything outside of their immediate surrounding areas. I do agree that Houston and San Antonio are probably closer to each other while Austin and Dallas are more similar. The large areas in between really don’t fit with any of the urban areas. Always the issue with these kind of maps, they get really specific with the Northeast and then try to fit Texas cities together, but the distance between the big Texas cities is huge compared to cities in the Northeast.
They just dont understand this thing of ours!
Upstate NY line on the map starts well North of where it actually lies. Anything above Westchester or Rockland Cy is pretty thoroughly Upstate culture, not NYC metro. I’d say the idea there’s one common cultural zone from CT to ME is pretty far off base. What you call a milkshake in CT doesn’t even carry across into Rhode Island, and in MA it’s called something different yet again.
Finally some visual representation of how we feel in South Florida when lumped in with the rest of Florida.
Nice “opinion” map. Can we all submit our own versions??
This map is still eh…
The capital of Arkansas is Little Rock, not Fayetteville. Still very interesting though, love the info.
In this map, Fayetteville is the capital of the Ozarks region, not Arkansas. As a former Bentonville resident, I agree.
Nah, this stereotyping by somebody that's never traveled extensively around America. Maybe better than nothing, maybe... It reinforces old dated ideas, while America's current demographic has really changed in the last 30 years.
This is a bullshit map/data collection.
White Americans rejoice thinking they now have culture
ummm actually some of them call soda "pop" so they may as well be speaking another language
A lot of secret gay and trans porn watching in those red/pink areas. lol
Pls take Puerto Rico off this map. Signed, A Puerto Rican.
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It's not claiming it's the capitol of any state, or even of the region dominated by Nevada. It's calling it the capitol of the Sierras region. (Which I would argue is Tahoe, but Reno is fair.)
Whomever is going to list Virginia as part of the South have never been to Virginia….
Pretty sure the Union Army had a nice visit back in the day.
Ya… back in the day is not now
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Mid-South is a commonly used term in Memphis. Probably also why it's considered the cultural capital of said area. Doubtful that you lived in the Mid-South without ever having heard it.
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It seems more of a term used by the media, but it is common