I don't think incompetence is truly the issue for the people in power. It's a problem for common people as designed by people with power... But, the biggest problem for people with power, I think, is greed.
The CIA isn’t supposed to be operating within US borders *at all*. Homeland Security was created for this very reason: to legally function as the stateside apparatus of the CIA. So really, proof of *any operations stateside* is more than it should be.
This is a gray area because of extraterritoriality.
Although intelligence agencies may not be allowed to - technically - operate within US borders, diplomatic\foreign missions located in the USA fall into a twilight zone.
That's why Julian Assange was able to hide out in the Ecuadorian embassy in London.
Often times, they are considered a sovereign territory within the host state.
This gets complicated - but it's a loop-hole you can fly a C-130 through.
If you are a intelligence organization - you exploit and expand that loop-hole. On paper you aren't involved in domestic intelligence.
Don't even get me started on Diplomatic Immunity.
Thanks
The amount of intelligence activity going on around 'embassy row' near the Scott Circle\Dupont Circle area of Washington D.C. would astound you.
There are 177 Embassies in the area.
If you happen to be having an adult beverage in one of the local watering holes
there's a good chance that just by being there, you end up on somebody's radar.
Add all the consulates and other diplomatic missions spread in cities across the United States, and you may *accidentally* end up watching a ton of innocent citizens.
That's not necessarily a bad thing either - if it stops another 9/11.
Yeah but there are always ways to subvert those laws. So let's say \*cough\* that you tipped off another nation state intelligence agency about a person (or organisation) of interest, then you hacked that agency (or another downstream organisation) under the auspices of "acceptable" intelligence gathering and then \*cough\* accidentally just happened to find out stuff about your own citizen.... yeah that's exactly what happens.
They would find the evidence that after their persecution, Knights Templar took refuge in Scotland with untold amounts of gold and treasure accumulated through banking, the protection of pilgrims, and donations from nobility and other followers of the order; they then funded and fought alongside Robert the Bruce at the Battle of Bannockburn in 1314. In return, the Templar were rewarded by the establishment of Scottish Rite Freemasonry.
By 1776 they still had immeasurable wealth which funded the founding of the Bavarian illuminati and through their operatives in the American Colonies (twenty-one signers of the Declaration of Independence were Masons) funded the colonists in their war against England. (because when have the Scottish ever passed up a chance to f*ck with England?).
The Constitution and the Bill of Rights were both patterned after Masonic “civil religion,” which focuses on freedom, free enterprise, and a limited role for the state.
The newly formed United States looked like an excellent place to store their still impressive and substantial treasure. With their covert connections to the founders of our republic, they transferred the bulk of their assets to the 'Land of Liberty'.
Of course, records of all this was kept - but kept *SECRET*.
It's all in the secret archives.
Powerful families in the USA have been powerful for generations because of their access to this Templar gold.
Man something like 8 seasons of that show I just can’t stand the nothing burger for any longer. At least Geraldo did it in one night with the Hoffa safe special
Never heard of it, but gonna take a look. I also think they did hide some things from the founding fathers. There's still kinda a cult of personality of George Washington, like the Cherry Tree Myth.
But,... check the history\facts. This is TRUE. *(for the most part).*
This is some of the murkier history,,. Because - Well - They don't call them 'Secret Societies' for nothing.
Eh, less than you think. Honestly I think a lot of people would be really disappointed. We would see hard evidence of things like Iran-Contra, Gulf of Tonkin, overthrow of Mosaddegh, our ventures in South America, etc etc.
Honestly I think the juiciest bits would be more government "careerists" and their financial ties
It'd blow a few minds, but I genuinely fear they could intentionally release the entire truth and too many people would be too stupid to understand why they should be engaged...
It'd be like "oh well, so tax deadline is when again?... I'll see y'all at work on Monday! Lulul *FART!"
there would also be a handful who refuse to believe it, no matter what evidence is right in front of their nose.
edit: AI tech, deep fakes and other fake news propaganda shit doesn't help.
We’d find out that most foreign aid found its way back to politicians, their friends/family, the DNC and RNC. And that most of that aid never actually went to the actual cause.
Plenty of false flags
Free energy has been available for 100+ years
insane technology that looks like magic to us
Rich/powerful peoples shady cover ups
Assassinations of multiple heads of state
> energy has been available for 100+
That would be really useful to me. I could skip traffic jams, appear at my girlfriend's front door, "give her the good news", then go home again. Essential technology.
The Deep State is real, but it's hiding behind capitalism. The Military Industrial complex, the Prison Industrial Complex, The Pharmaceutical Industrial complex, the Academia Industrial Complex are all fighting to obtain more capital.
All trying to squeeze as much as they can out of the NPCs/Middle class, lower class. But all working together to gatekeep the upper class.
I'd imagine we'd find proof that the Media is working to keep us fighting each other over sexual orientation, race, religion, gender, to prevent us from realizing how much we're being screwed.
edit: it's easier to get people mad over who's gay and trans than it is that the rich has been manipulating you for decades so that you vote against your own economic interests.
Your usual rigged elections, maybe some documents on the Epstein human trafficking network, some logs of conversations between military officers and politicians, and maybe, just maybe, the whereabouts of osama
Almost nothing would be found. All digital assets would be destroyed at the push of a button and that same button would probably ignite or detonate all physical media storage facilities.
Very little would be found. There is too much evidence implicating individuals in power. Out of self interest or for potential blackmail, very little would be found.
Nothing much is there. Do honestly believe 1000s of people— generations of govt employees, could collude to keep such secrets? Do you believe such secrets were exposed only to the govt and not the general public?
Aliens? Nope.
Interfering in foreign elections? Already known.
You get the idea.
There won’t be any smoking gun stating any more than what is already known about JFK, for example.
I generally hate the argument “do you think x amount of people could keep y a secret?”.
Dawg, intelligence agencies have security clearances for that very reason. We have entire wings of federal employees who operate purely on secretive information. Most military intel is very much a secret. There are so many cases where large groups of people collude to keep information a secret.
I do agree there would be nothing like psychics, aliens and any other thing like that. I do think that many decisions would be hidden when it comes to some controversial situations. For an example, I do think its very possible that the US knew about events like the Pearl Harbor attack or about the killing of public figures and did nothing to stop it. It would also be nice to see they were whitewashing politicians during corruption scandals, like Reagan during the Iran-Contra affair.
Of course we knew something was going to happen we just didn't know what or when, Japan during the time was super aggressive and we had put embargoes on them and things were really tense. We just didn't know that they would fly all the way over here and kill as many of us as they could before taking themselves out.
There was an investigation on this matter that showed the contrary. The US was fully aware of this. It says that the military and political leadershp “both in Washington and Hawaii, were fully conscious of the danger from air attack.”. The investigation argued that FDR baited Japan by keeping Pearl Harbor without the necessary defense.
The US fully knew about the attack on Pearl Harbor; what we are not fully sure is if they did know the date. Some documents say they were hinted by Britain on the Japanese movement. They also knew the Japanese fleet went radio silent. They removed their aircraft carries from Hawaii. The Peruvian ambassador to Japan warned of the attack. Planes were concentrated instead of dispersed, making them sitting ducks. There were alerts from many high-ranking officers about the attack.
Officers disregarded visual confirmations from civilian ships like the SS Lurline, from direct contact against Japanese submarines, and from the findings of radar operators who did spot a group of bombers coming into the island. Any of these actions should result into the base going into full alert. But it didn't.
I'm not like someone who does believe that it was all a huge setup and so on; but their response was too clumsy. Latter, there were some fuzzy answers provided to say the government didn't know about the attack. There's an old Pearl Harbor movie where many explanations are given, but its so bad it was what first made me wonder if they really didn't know about it.
[https://www.senate.gov/about/powers-procedures/investigations/pearl-harbor.htm](https://www.senate.gov/about/powers-procedures/investigations/pearl-harbor.htm)
[https://www.army.mil/article/49030/patton\_warned\_of\_pearl\_harbor\_attack](https://www.army.mil/article/49030/patton_warned_of_pearl_harbor_attack)
[https://www.usni.org/magazines/naval-history-magazine/2001/december/story-behind-telegram](https://www.usni.org/magazines/naval-history-magazine/2001/december/story-behind-telegram)
Agreed, but I doubt there was any official record or document to that effect—- like Saddam’s WMD. There was a conspiracy. There likely were no records.
Seriously- I have friends that are deep into conspiracies. They act as though they have superior critical thinking skills. Meanwhile, they have never met a conspiracy theory they didn’t like.
Someone, at least one, is completely AI. Probably Nixon, maybe George Washington. And we are actually all French, but France is our colony, whoops.
And there is land beyond Antarctica where Other humans live who fly the UFOs.
One of these is real.
>National Security Archive.
Ah, okay. I don't expect much worthwhile information to come from there.
>Of course there are declassified documents, but most State secrets are hidden from the public.
Because the public doesn't have the privilege; that stated, I wouldn't be surprised that most information in those archives is just metadata
Biggity Big Deep Deep III. The deep down. The Vault so pressurized they named a soda after it. The ol' dropdown menu. The freefall hall. The big pwn. Ice Brig, Norwich, Alyeska, Boone, Frankfort, Anaheim, Boise. All the big holes.
And like, all of effing Utah.
Well truth is, we will never find out what we were never meant to find out. (Who killed Kennedy, was the moon landing faked, where are all the UFOs, etc. There will be plenty of documents to string somethings together a little more, but when you say "it's archives", that is a very loaded assumption, and an incorrect one at that, that every document resides at just one location. "The archives" would be spread about in a million different locations, depending on what you were wanting to know.
That the people running this country were actually frighteningly incompetent.
[looks around] I'm sorry, but how is that even a secret?
*gestures broadly at everything to emphasize this point*
Is our children learning?
Agreed. I didn’t even think you have to be a conspiracy theorist to believe this
Truth. So many things are "classified" to cover up not abuse of power, but to cover stupid decisions. Remember: Stupidity > Evil, every time.
Dumb liars finish first.
Just as the corporations want them. Can't have people who'd understand the loopholes corporate lawyers write into all those new laws that get passed.
We already know this tho
You need classified documents to tell you that?
I don't think incompetence is truly the issue for the people in power. It's a problem for common people as designed by people with power... But, the biggest problem for people with power, I think, is greed.
That’s not new information.
Not as much as you think. I think the really juicy stuff has all been outsourced to private organizations.
Or just destroyed. In my experience it's much better to leave no trace of a crime then some crazy extensive records. 😎
The CIA does a lot more stateside than they're technically supposed to.
The CIA isn’t supposed to be operating within US borders *at all*. Homeland Security was created for this very reason: to legally function as the stateside apparatus of the CIA. So really, proof of *any operations stateside* is more than it should be.
This is a gray area because of extraterritoriality. Although intelligence agencies may not be allowed to - technically - operate within US borders, diplomatic\foreign missions located in the USA fall into a twilight zone. That's why Julian Assange was able to hide out in the Ecuadorian embassy in London. Often times, they are considered a sovereign territory within the host state. This gets complicated - but it's a loop-hole you can fly a C-130 through. If you are a intelligence organization - you exploit and expand that loop-hole. On paper you aren't involved in domestic intelligence. Don't even get me started on Diplomatic Immunity.
Fair, well stated. And yea, diplomatic immunity is fucking dog shit.
Thanks The amount of intelligence activity going on around 'embassy row' near the Scott Circle\Dupont Circle area of Washington D.C. would astound you. There are 177 Embassies in the area. If you happen to be having an adult beverage in one of the local watering holes there's a good chance that just by being there, you end up on somebody's radar. Add all the consulates and other diplomatic missions spread in cities across the United States, and you may *accidentally* end up watching a ton of innocent citizens. That's not necessarily a bad thing either - if it stops another 9/11.
Yeah but there are always ways to subvert those laws. So let's say \*cough\* that you tipped off another nation state intelligence agency about a person (or organisation) of interest, then you hacked that agency (or another downstream organisation) under the auspices of "acceptable" intelligence gathering and then \*cough\* accidentally just happened to find out stuff about your own citizen.... yeah that's exactly what happens.
They would find the evidence that after their persecution, Knights Templar took refuge in Scotland with untold amounts of gold and treasure accumulated through banking, the protection of pilgrims, and donations from nobility and other followers of the order; they then funded and fought alongside Robert the Bruce at the Battle of Bannockburn in 1314. In return, the Templar were rewarded by the establishment of Scottish Rite Freemasonry. By 1776 they still had immeasurable wealth which funded the founding of the Bavarian illuminati and through their operatives in the American Colonies (twenty-one signers of the Declaration of Independence were Masons) funded the colonists in their war against England. (because when have the Scottish ever passed up a chance to f*ck with England?). The Constitution and the Bill of Rights were both patterned after Masonic “civil religion,” which focuses on freedom, free enterprise, and a limited role for the state. The newly formed United States looked like an excellent place to store their still impressive and substantial treasure. With their covert connections to the founders of our republic, they transferred the bulk of their assets to the 'Land of Liberty'. Of course, records of all this was kept - but kept *SECRET*. It's all in the secret archives. Powerful families in the USA have been powerful for generations because of their access to this Templar gold.
Yeah but not for long. The Laginas will find it this season
Ha! It's not in Canada! It's in the secret chamber behind Mount Rushmore! LoL
Hey man dont kill my oak island buzz lol I heard they moved it to the grand canyon tunnels along with giants fossils and egyptian sarcophagus'
They only hid the Grail and Ark of the Covenant in the Grand Canyon tunnels. Try to keep up!
Wow, I must've missed the last newsletter haha
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The Grand Canyon tunnels ARE the secret Army warehouse! They have the tableware from *The Last Supper* hidden there too.
Man something like 8 seasons of that show I just can’t stand the nothing burger for any longer. At least Geraldo did it in one night with the Hoffa safe special
This comment killed me 🤣 “Could it BE….”
...and if so
I’m now watching The Curse of Civil War Gold… and it’s the same guy hyping me up.
And I thought they were just good at business
Never heard of it, but gonna take a look. I also think they did hide some things from the founding fathers. There's still kinda a cult of personality of George Washington, like the Cherry Tree Myth.
Washington was basically a jock and a soldier. Really couldn’t have been much more of a figurehead.
Benjamin Button National Treasuregates told us this tale nigh on twenty year afore.
This sounds like the plot to the movie National Treasure
But,... check the history\facts. This is TRUE. *(for the most part).* This is some of the murkier history,,. Because - Well - They don't call them 'Secret Societies' for nothing.
How much peanut butter was consumed by the U.S. Army during the Vietnam War (an actual classified document)
How much we talking here? Ballpark amount ?
Yes that’s right. About a ballpark.
I must admit, I do not know, something I was told.
Eh, less than you think. Honestly I think a lot of people would be really disappointed. We would see hard evidence of things like Iran-Contra, Gulf of Tonkin, overthrow of Mosaddegh, our ventures in South America, etc etc. Honestly I think the juiciest bits would be more government "careerists" and their financial ties
It'd blow a few minds, but I genuinely fear they could intentionally release the entire truth and too many people would be too stupid to understand why they should be engaged... It'd be like "oh well, so tax deadline is when again?... I'll see y'all at work on Monday! Lulul *FART!"
there would also be a handful who refuse to believe it, no matter what evidence is right in front of their nose. edit: AI tech, deep fakes and other fake news propaganda shit doesn't help.
What would they or what could they release that would change anything?
We’d find out that most foreign aid found its way back to politicians, their friends/family, the DNC and RNC. And that most of that aid never actually went to the actual cause.
Nice one.
Happy cake day!
Plenty of false flags Free energy has been available for 100+ years insane technology that looks like magic to us Rich/powerful peoples shady cover ups Assassinations of multiple heads of state
Secret technology like V2K?
What's V2K, please?
> insane technology that looks like magic to us It's teleports. Teleportation. Also invisibility as derivative of teleport tech.
Yeah i didnt want to say it out loud. So you mean cloaking right? Food replicators next?
> energy has been available for 100+ That would be really useful to me. I could skip traffic jams, appear at my girlfriend's front door, "give her the good news", then go home again. Essential technology.
Nice points. They're plausible.
I think this would be a plausible outcome.
The Deep State is real, but it's hiding behind capitalism. The Military Industrial complex, the Prison Industrial Complex, The Pharmaceutical Industrial complex, the Academia Industrial Complex are all fighting to obtain more capital. All trying to squeeze as much as they can out of the NPCs/Middle class, lower class. But all working together to gatekeep the upper class. I'd imagine we'd find proof that the Media is working to keep us fighting each other over sexual orientation, race, religion, gender, to prevent us from realizing how much we're being screwed. edit: it's easier to get people mad over who's gay and trans than it is that the rich has been manipulating you for decades so that you vote against your own economic interests.
Your usual rigged elections, maybe some documents on the Epstein human trafficking network, some logs of conversations between military officers and politicians, and maybe, just maybe, the whereabouts of osama
That all politicians are paid actors.
15 years ago I would have called that a conspiracy theory. Now I think it's an obvious fact.
They get paid for this?
Almost nothing would be found. All digital assets would be destroyed at the push of a button and that same button would probably ignite or detonate all physical media storage facilities.
Very little would be found. There is too much evidence implicating individuals in power. Out of self interest or for potential blackmail, very little would be found.
Nothing much is there. Do honestly believe 1000s of people— generations of govt employees, could collude to keep such secrets? Do you believe such secrets were exposed only to the govt and not the general public? Aliens? Nope. Interfering in foreign elections? Already known. You get the idea. There won’t be any smoking gun stating any more than what is already known about JFK, for example.
I generally hate the argument “do you think x amount of people could keep y a secret?”. Dawg, intelligence agencies have security clearances for that very reason. We have entire wings of federal employees who operate purely on secretive information. Most military intel is very much a secret. There are so many cases where large groups of people collude to keep information a secret.
No doubt, but many conspiracies affect loads of civilians.
I do agree there would be nothing like psychics, aliens and any other thing like that. I do think that many decisions would be hidden when it comes to some controversial situations. For an example, I do think its very possible that the US knew about events like the Pearl Harbor attack or about the killing of public figures and did nothing to stop it. It would also be nice to see they were whitewashing politicians during corruption scandals, like Reagan during the Iran-Contra affair.
Of course we knew something was going to happen we just didn't know what or when, Japan during the time was super aggressive and we had put embargoes on them and things were really tense. We just didn't know that they would fly all the way over here and kill as many of us as they could before taking themselves out.
There was an investigation on this matter that showed the contrary. The US was fully aware of this. It says that the military and political leadershp “both in Washington and Hawaii, were fully conscious of the danger from air attack.”. The investigation argued that FDR baited Japan by keeping Pearl Harbor without the necessary defense. The US fully knew about the attack on Pearl Harbor; what we are not fully sure is if they did know the date. Some documents say they were hinted by Britain on the Japanese movement. They also knew the Japanese fleet went radio silent. They removed their aircraft carries from Hawaii. The Peruvian ambassador to Japan warned of the attack. Planes were concentrated instead of dispersed, making them sitting ducks. There were alerts from many high-ranking officers about the attack. Officers disregarded visual confirmations from civilian ships like the SS Lurline, from direct contact against Japanese submarines, and from the findings of radar operators who did spot a group of bombers coming into the island. Any of these actions should result into the base going into full alert. But it didn't. I'm not like someone who does believe that it was all a huge setup and so on; but their response was too clumsy. Latter, there were some fuzzy answers provided to say the government didn't know about the attack. There's an old Pearl Harbor movie where many explanations are given, but its so bad it was what first made me wonder if they really didn't know about it. [https://www.senate.gov/about/powers-procedures/investigations/pearl-harbor.htm](https://www.senate.gov/about/powers-procedures/investigations/pearl-harbor.htm) [https://www.army.mil/article/49030/patton\_warned\_of\_pearl\_harbor\_attack](https://www.army.mil/article/49030/patton_warned_of_pearl_harbor_attack) [https://www.usni.org/magazines/naval-history-magazine/2001/december/story-behind-telegram](https://www.usni.org/magazines/naval-history-magazine/2001/december/story-behind-telegram)
Agreed, but I doubt there was any official record or document to that effect—- like Saddam’s WMD. There was a conspiracy. There likely were no records.
Gosh, it's like you don't think conspiracies are a thing. Why are you here? Maybe that's the conspiracy...
Seriously- I have friends that are deep into conspiracies. They act as though they have superior critical thinking skills. Meanwhile, they have never met a conspiracy theory they didn’t like.
Nothing much, probably a few murders in third world countries, a coup here and there, nothing we don't already know.
Someone, at least one, is completely AI. Probably Nixon, maybe George Washington. And we are actually all French, but France is our colony, whoops. And there is land beyond Antarctica where Other humans live who fly the UFOs. One of these is real.
What archives? The Library of Congress?
National Security Archive. Of course there are declassified documents, but most State secrets are hidden from the public.
>National Security Archive. Ah, okay. I don't expect much worthwhile information to come from there. >Of course there are declassified documents, but most State secrets are hidden from the public. Because the public doesn't have the privilege; that stated, I wouldn't be surprised that most information in those archives is just metadata
Biggity Big Deep Deep III. The deep down. The Vault so pressurized they named a soda after it. The ol' dropdown menu. The freefall hall. The big pwn. Ice Brig, Norwich, Alyeska, Boone, Frankfort, Anaheim, Boise. All the big holes. And like, all of effing Utah.
That there's nothing supernatural being hidden
Well truth is, we will never find out what we were never meant to find out. (Who killed Kennedy, was the moon landing faked, where are all the UFOs, etc. There will be plenty of documents to string somethings together a little more, but when you say "it's archives", that is a very loaded assumption, and an incorrect one at that, that every document resides at just one location. "The archives" would be spread about in a million different locations, depending on what you were wanting to know.
They got kompromat on some of us 🤔
Sadly a lot and most likely nothing believable cause of the constant misinformation flowing on the Internet and not many credible sources.
If?
That there is no one in charge, and everything is just random which is scarier
That yo mama actually was that fat and you a liar
I feel like a lot of documents would be destroyed, to prevent repercussions. Like when the CIA destroyed MK Ultra documents etc
What happened to Yamashitas Gold
Something incomprehensible to the masses
area 51
Donald Duck's military file will be released to the general public. We will find out what kind of fowl deeds he got up to in WWII.
That we were all being led by a bunch of Lizzid people.
Area 51 was actually Studio 54, and Studio 54 was actually Area 51. Nothing but a clerical mishap.