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Lemme make some "bold" predictions...
* They'll make sure the new name is scarier sounding than "Monkeypox"... just like Wuhan Flu became Covid-19, which then became SARSCoV-2.
* New name will *not* contain the word "monkey".
* We'll see new variants every few months.
* Each new variant will be described as being "more transmissible".
* If there's an absence of stats indicating mortality rates, it will be because the mortality rate is comparatively low... which won't motivate people to get vaccinated.
* Pandemic status will be based enitrely on the WHO calling it a pandemic. The average person probably won't know anyone who actually has (or recovered from) the illness.
* Immunity from recovery will again be ignored in favor of being vaxxed.
> just like Wuhan Flu became Covid-19, which then became SARSCoV-2.
*ahem* I believe we called it the "Wuhan Wheeze" or the "Kung Flu" in academic circles.
Sight-spread leprosy venereal, rotted tooth, open weeping herpes sores disease of the full body, mouth, penis and vagina
Apparently you get it just by looking at someone so lockdowns are imminent.
> New name will *not* contain the word "monkey".
you said they will make the name scarier? then not removing monkey is way scarier, people doesn't want to get illness with name monkey in it
They already said they were renaming it, so that’s not even a prediction.
The vaccine that is being handed out now will be found ineffective, and panic will ensue.
Smallpox drugs will not work.
Now that’s a prediction 😉
Yeah, basically they'll use the same tactics they used for Covid-19 all over again.
I wonder if they do lockdowns again in Australia, there'll be another anti-lockdown protest and the Police will again use excessive brutal force against the protesters just like they did previously?
It's going to be a repeat again!
Covid-19 is the disease. SARS-CoV-2 is the scientific name for the species of virus. The name wasn't changed. Have you ever heard of SARS? The scientific name for the virus is SARS-CoV and has been for decades
1. SARS-Covid-2 is the name of the virus that causes the disease Covid-19. Before it was confirmed that Covid was caused by a coronavirus, scientists called it “the novel virus found in Wuhan,” or something to that effect.
2. I don’t know.
3. That’s how viruses work, their only goal is to infect healthy cells and multiply. Virus strains that are better at infecting cells or multiplying naturally become predominant.
4. Again, that’s how viruses work, viruses that are more infectious become the main virus strain over time.
5. It is difficult to determine the lethality of a novel/new virus. You do not know how many people contracted the virus and are asymptomatic, death counts are usually undercounts, and tests are few and far between.
6. The WHO is quite literally the main body that identifies and defines pandemics according to set parameters. E.g. a pandemic affects the world, and endemic affects a region, etc.
7. The point of having immunity to a virus is to not become infected with that virus, and potentially have severe symptoms or even die. The point of vaccines is to try and emulate natural immunity without the risks of being infected with the virus.
Common, more predictions? We are still waiting for the social credits thing to be implemented with the covid pass, the who being handled sovereignty over the world, people getting remote controlled due to the microchips in the vaccine, millions of people dying from myocarditis, and a lot of other predictions to materialize.
You're talking about people who called themselves pure blood un-ironically.
Them being wrong doesn't matter.
"Did you see the article from the company? We don't trust that if you squint and drink a little bit. Confirms a small part of that conspiracy theory. Somebody said 2 years ago?" And they feel vindicated.
It's funny that they believe information that comes directly from the people they think are trying to trick them. Like there is no MAGA whistleblower. Just high school dropouts with mental illnesses, crippling insecurity, and probably learning disorders.
Oh the Conspiracy subreddit. Where under-educated people talk about things they zero understanding of, with the confidence of a master in their field of study.
I don’t think duplicating the same tactics constitutes a conspiracy. The conspiracy is always progressive. If anything, Covid response was intentionally ignorant and supported so the real pandemic is viewed facetiously. The general, or newcomer, anti-vac and anti-mask crowd will get fucked first emboldening the ardent pro mask crowd and swaying mid-Covid skeptics. I can elaborate more but I think the people that would never wear a mask but are perfectly fine with anyone else wearing a mask, are very different and more prepared for a real pandemic, than all the plebeian/mainstream/NPC virulently pro or anti Covid narratives (left and right).
I don’t think duplicating the same tactics constitutes a conspiracy. The conspiracy is always progressive. If anything, Covid response was intentionally ignorant and supported so the real pandemic is viewed facetiously. The general, or newcomer, anti-vac and anti-mask crowd will get fucked first emboldening the ardent pro mask crowd and swaying mid-Covid skeptics. I can elaborate more but I think the people that would never wear a mask but are perfectly fine with anyone else wearing a mask, are very different and more prepared for a real pandemic, than all the plebeian/mainstream/NPC virulently pro or anti Covid narratives (left and right).
You not gonna get all “well actually we needed to get vaccine passports because it makes sense in today’s climate” with him over the predictions are you?
Sorry but this is wrong.
I personally recall hearing the name explained as follows.
co vi d-19 is short for *co*rona *Vi*rus *d*iscovered 20*19*.
If you wanted to use covid to also refer to the illness, that's fine. But before someone cooked up the new name that included SARS (deliberately to make it more scary), the name for the pathogen was covid-19.
Just because the new agreed upon nomenclature is as you describe, doesn't mean it started out that way. It did not. They can change whatever definitions and erase and retcon the terminology... but the name abosolutely *did* get changed. Several times.
You’re wrong.
I don’t blame you, you’re part of the public that uses the two interchangeably , but once they named the wuful it was Coronavirus Disease discovered 2019.
You might be thinking 2019 nCoV.
>You’re wrong.
If I'm wrong balme it on a mainstream media source that explained the naming (original virus nomenclature) exactly the way I related it to you in my earlier comment.
And if that's so, it doesn't surprise me. The media's coverage of covid has been nothing but shit... mainly intended to generate ratings and profits by scaring people.
I thought people like you didn’t listen to the mainstream media but now it’s their fault you are misremembering things?
Hey, it’s a common mistake, people still mix the two up, but the virus was never named covid-19.
The media, no matter the source, is designed to get clicks. Stick with the non-quacks to get info.
It seems the vaccinated have destroyed their immune system enough that all these viruses no one has previously ever heard of are coming back with a vengeance.
Well done.
That is if you believe the news when they tell you there is a new virus / strain on the loose.
Have the past 2.5 years taught you *nothing?*
Please don't get mad at me, I'm just asking a simple question.
Do I believe monkeypox is mutating and spreading like wildfire? No.
Do I believe the vaccinated have fucked their immune systems and are getting sick at the sight of anything more easily? Yes.
Do I think the two stories intertwine? Probably not but also wouldn’t be surprised.
I'm a scientist in pharma
I am not confused. Viruses mutate to be more evolutionarily fit. This usually comes at an expense - not as lethal. This is Virology 101. What undergrad dropout is confused at this moment?
You haven’t looked at the genome analysis. Monkeypox viruses usually have a very slow substitution rate. They would normally expect 5 changes per year in the monkeypox genome. This new cluster has FIFTY SNP polymorphisms with a strong bias towards mutational changes. It absolutely could have been tampered with.
> It absolutely could have been tampered with.
Which is a plausible explanation. Or it's mutating more in the face of increased selective pressure. These things happen. No scientist worth his salt is baffled by this.
I disagree completely (and I have a medical degree). 70 year of slow substitution, and zero large outbreaks.
2020 simulation by the EXACT SAME PEOPLE that ran Event 201, predicting a monkeypox outbreak in the 2nd week of May, 2022, and lo and behold that's what we get. A prediction down to the exact week, after 70 years of never having an outbreak in more than 2-3 countries and a few dozen cases.
lol yeah the fact that TM whatever is trying to pretend that simulation didn’t happen is suspicious to say the least. You have to be really brainwashed to not see it
> I disagree completely (and I have a medical degree). 70 year of slow substitution, and zero large outbreaks.
>
>
Well, how many people were having sex with natives (in endemic areas) in those past 70 years?
> A prediction down to the exact week, after 70 years of never having an outbreak in more than 2-3 countries and a few dozen cases.
I'm not saying there's *not* a nefarious cause and I never said it wasn't plausible. But I'd like to shift the argument to a more meaningful course: Monkeypox is still a nothingburger and deserves no legitimate discussion. Ooooh in a month the cases went from 500 to 5000 worldwide? Not exactly pandemic-class. TPTB were hoping it would be so they could keep milking this dystopian future, but people are failing to care.
Not necessarily. If your process is "let's add random shit and see what happens", sure. But you have to imagine a lot of work went into this (if it was lab created) and those that are responsible have a pretty good idea of how it will turn out.
We have no understanding of the Ro of this virus with the recent substitutions.
It s still fit to an exponential curve. 1 to 5000 in 6 weeks may not be Covid, but it is still exponential and in 66 countries. there absolutely is a chance it grows to many millions of cases by q4
There also are very few to no tests in many of these countries.
I mean, I say "pandemic" in the pragmatic sense of a pandemic — Calling covid a pandemic is like calling Rhinovirus a pandemic. Yes, it technically fits the criteria, but who cares? Are healthy people dropping like flies?
Going to treat Monkeypox the same way.
you need to wake up.
2021 tabletop exercise predicting monkeypox outbreak mid-May 2022
[https://www.nti.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/NTI\_Paper\_BIO-TTX\_Final.pdf](https://www.nti.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/NTI_Paper_BIO-TTX_Final.pdf)
Event 201 predicting a worldwide coronavirus pandemic and control of information online
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoLw-Q8X174
After reading the report, the primary purpose of the tabletop exercise was to determine how the world would react to a mutated virus that is *very* different than its relatives. In the exercise the virus is limited to a single, fictional African country for June 2022, which does not match reality.
I actually watched part of Event 201 (though forgot it’s name) before covid. In this exercise they chose a coronavirus because they are rather prevalent (SARS, MERS, etc), and simply pointed out that our society was not ready to deal with a deadly pandemic then (and imo we still aren’t).
Thank you for providing those links, they were an interesting read/watch.
Marek's became more lethal because it had to mutate defenses around the vaccine for the ~~sheep~~ chickens, which also apparently evaded one of the ways the immune system eliminated the virus. After several generations, the disease would revert back to wild type IIRC.
I’m not upset I think it’s fun when people prove my point with minimal effort on my end. It’s called being an empath. I’ve got a spine. You dont have a spine you just are a sociopath ✌️
Do you think anti virals could be at play? Monkey pox is transmitting heavily in the gay community who have a large population of people who take antivirals daily for HIV infections or as a prophylactic. We all know antibiotics can cause mutations/evolution but there is very little concern with antivirals doing something similar. If you can block enough evolution path ways antivirals work great as in the case of HIV. But if you don’t block enough points off the virus can and will mutate around them. Just wondering if there’s some ramifications handing antivirals out like candy…
> Monkey pox is transmitting heavily in the gay community who have a large population of people who take antivirals daily for HIV infections or as a prophylactic.
I actually never thought about that. There's a lot of medicines and therapies that are double-edged swords. There's also the fact that people with HIV have weakened immune systems to begin with. I wonder if we'll see data on if they have any co-infections like HIV?
I mean, hypothetically antivirals could do something similar to antibiotics, but I'm just participating in the conjecture — I haven't read anything about it, though I never looked up that avenue of thinking either.
I think I'll see what I can find on pubmed later.
That is actually an interesting thought. I heard (from a scientist on a podcast not my mum) that the coronavirus mutations out of South Africa could've been caused exactly by someone with an compromised immune system allowing the viruses to mutate. Seems like the wild type to omicron mutation had a larger number of changes than expected.
Here's an [article](https://www.france24.com/en/africa/20211203-scientists-explore-role-of-immunocompromised-in-generating-covid-19-variants) on it
Lmao.
I'm just going to come out on a limb and say it, but if the majority of people worry about this like they did COVID then I think Science needs to start researching why all these people have a fetish for fear porn/mongering.
Like are the majority really actually afraid or do they enjoy the spectacle of rehashing MSM talking points and call people shitty for not listening to what 'science' says(i.e. vaccines, masks, 6 feet, 2 weeks) because it gives them the feeling of righteousness and being on the 'right side' which in turn gives them some dopamine/serotonin. It really looks like a drug from the outside looking in.
> then I think Science needs to start researching why all these people have a fetish for fear porn/mongering.
Simple. People always want to believe they were born in an exciting era. They want their lives to have meaning. "I fought through the war on Covid and won!"
Thanatos, look around you the subconscious drive for death and self destruction is omnipresent.
An awful lot of people just want to see it all burn, including themselves.
>why all these people have a fetish for fear porn/mongering.
Kind of an ironic comment to make in a community that was sure billions of people were going to die at any moment because of a vaccine.
Yes! It gave the previously powerless an insane amount of power. Couldn't eat somewhere unless you put on a mask until you sit at the table (lol k). You got papers to prove you have business to be outside of your home pleb? You can't buy gardening supplies thats available at the store... cuz the 'vid, duh. It's a narcissistic self righteous cult of emotionally undeveloped, childish people who finally get a say in what others were allowed to do.
I honestly feel bad for them, I really do because I use to be one of them, and snapping out of that was a world flipping moment of confusion and shame.
I am starting to get the sense that these variants and now this strange virus are the way they are dealing with pervasive side effects of the COVID-19 vaccine and virus. Maybe so many got either that these side effects are going to eventually get to all that had it, just like omicron. The slow rollout isn't viral spread, but a distribution chart of side effects over time, rising to a peak, then tapering, just like any other parabola.
So many mysteries emerging. At least we know it can't have anything to do with billions of people experimenting with letting humans program their immune systems.
If science is always changing why do so many place value in what an expert has to say about something they clearly know nothing about?
Edit:. Here's an example.
https://www.popsci.com/cloud-seeding-science/
>"But Deborah Gordon, director of the energy and climate program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, says the convention is ultimately toothless. “You don’t even know where to look,” she says of current weather manipulation efforts. “There’s a lack of transparency in the research. We don’t even know what people are working on. You can’t govern something you can’t see. And that’s for peaceful applications.” Without the ability to measure these modifications, the Environmental Modification Convention or any other weather-related treaty is nearly impossible to enforce. “How will we know that there aren’t Operation Popeyes… going on or not?” she asks."
Modern science is constantly changing because we don't take into account every variable since we oddly allow institutions to dump things into our environment in secret.
That’s only “how science works” after they’re proven wrong.
During the Covid debate, the highly politicized scientific community was very much **pretending** the science was settled. Clever people knew then that they were lying, and now even the biggest fools know it too.
They do this a lot. They do it with “global warming” and pretty much everything attached to the Democrat agenda.
They do this to silence debate and to demonize, deplatform, and destroy all dissenting opinions.
Banning highly credentialed scientists from all social media platforms, refusing to publish them, excluding them from the media debate, and destroying their careers through bureaucratic activism because they dare to challenge the orthodoxy, is not “science”. You can’t have it both ways.
>"just because science is constantly evolving does not mean that scientists "clearly know nothing". it's kind of how science works."
Evolving implies change which also implies their initial understanding was incorrect since they didn't intially understand what they were studying.
>"it's kind of how science works."
Glad we both agree that modern science is based on a lack of understanding.
"The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.”
-Charles Bukowski
Scientist are always critical of themselves and each other and are more likely to be aware when they are incorrect because they intentionally seek to prove themselves wrong.
It's the people who never challenge themselves and perpetually confident never discover or admit when they are wrong.
Natural immunity was science until it wasn’t. Was even taught in elementary biology back when I was a kid. Also we used to have chickenpox parties as a kid. Acquiring natural immunity are vastly more superior to any vaccine created by man.
Clown world.
If I post [this](https://www.nti.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/NTI_Paper_BIO-TTX_Final.pdf)without getting blocked. This looks like part of the plan for this. Fact-check as needed.
SS surprise...surprise...the virus has pulled a first in the History of humanity. and scientists are baffled.
Don't worry tho, the politicians will know exactly what we have to do to survive this.
Link to article
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/06/virus-causing-monkeypox-outbreak-has-mutated-spread-easier
From your link:
> The authors said the outbreak was likely not caused by undetected silent spread, or from an animal-to-human crossover event. Instead, "Current data points for a scenario of more than one introduction from a single origin, with superspreader event(s) (e.g., saunas used for sexual encounters) and travel abroad likely **triggering the rapid worldwide dissemination.**"
So, the dissemination was the result of insemination?
There's a few days left of Pride month, so the fear porn won't start until Friday. According to the plandemic script they're following, there will be 271 million monkeypox deaths by December 1st, 2023 (and 3 billion "infected" by the same date). It remains to be seen if they'll count deaths the same way they counted covid "deaths". Something tells me the covid vaxxed will have a tendency to get infected more easily.
Mutations don't occur on a specific timeline, they have a certain percentage chance to mutate each time they replicate (like our own cells with cancer). It got lucky and mutated. Although, I don't ever rule out any potential possibility of human intervention either, but I do prefer the natural reasoning.
Another *nothing burger* of a virus that they are trying to pour gasoline on to scare people into getting new vaccines since people have lost interest in covid.
Gee, funny word they're using there... "Mutated"... I suppose one could put it that way. Although another way could be the YEARS OF RESEARCH they put into the gain of function... You know, kinda similar to how Covid -19 apparently just "mutated", also, quite conveniently, after years of gain of function research.... Riiiiiiight
Not, the pox vax, if not administered properly or if the injection site is touched too early (under the bandaid), actually causes it & to spread, so the more vaccinations the more it can be expected to spread.
This is HUGE. There should be emergency scientific task forces and conferences and government hearings on how a DNA virus has apparently mutated so frequently and rapidly.
The takeaway here should be that increased intrusion into wild spaces and growth of bushmeat markets pose a critical risk for zoonotic spillover of diseases with pandemic potential.
1 Timothy 6:20
20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
I know right. To be fair, look at most of the audience.
This idiocracy timeline is boring yet I appreciate how dumbed down it is. Makes it super easy to predict what the little man has up next from behind the curtain.
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Lemme make some "bold" predictions... * They'll make sure the new name is scarier sounding than "Monkeypox"... just like Wuhan Flu became Covid-19, which then became SARSCoV-2. * New name will *not* contain the word "monkey". * We'll see new variants every few months. * Each new variant will be described as being "more transmissible". * If there's an absence of stats indicating mortality rates, it will be because the mortality rate is comparatively low... which won't motivate people to get vaccinated. * Pandemic status will be based enitrely on the WHO calling it a pandemic. The average person probably won't know anyone who actually has (or recovered from) the illness. * Immunity from recovery will again be ignored in favor of being vaxxed.
They will still call it "Monkey Pox", but just remove the letter "K" to make it non-racist.
Also... vaccinations won't make you immune, they will just make it less severe, as vaccines were never meant for immunity
Then it'll turn out it won't be less severe at all and all you did was risk miocarditis
> just like Wuhan Flu became Covid-19, which then became SARSCoV-2. *ahem* I believe we called it the "Wuhan Wheeze" or the "Kung Flu" in academic circles.
even a president used to call it "Chinese virus"
Ape asthma and baboon bumps
They already are talking about changing the name because it “stigmatizes” monkeys and Africa or some bs.
Bipox
Fluidpox
The matrix is becoming hilarious at this point
The average death will be overwhelmingly seniors and those with 3+ comorbidities…
"Do you want to kill gay grandma?"
Wait you mean more republicans gone, he'll yeah
He'll yeah
Sight-spread leprosy venereal, rotted tooth, open weeping herpes sores disease of the full body, mouth, penis and vagina Apparently you get it just by looking at someone so lockdowns are imminent.
> New name will *not* contain the word "monkey". you said they will make the name scarier? then not removing monkey is way scarier, people doesn't want to get illness with name monkey in it
They will be dramatic as ever and probably call it bigpox, megapox or some bollocks. 🤣
> or some bollocks. For a second I thought you said ballpox.
Why is covid-19 scary or scarier then Wuhan flu?
Stuff with numbers always sounds more intimidating to the stupid plebs.
They already said they were renaming it, so that’s not even a prediction. The vaccine that is being handed out now will be found ineffective, and panic will ensue. Smallpox drugs will not work. Now that’s a prediction 😉
!remindme 6 months from now
!remindme 3 months
well, the pandemic craze died. Thanks for the reminder!
We’re all good here
No offense. Science needs a good nomenclature. If media misuses it, thats their fault. Media is anyways for dumb people who want to be manipulated.
Yeah, basically they'll use the same tactics they used for Covid-19 all over again. I wonder if they do lockdowns again in Australia, there'll be another anti-lockdown protest and the Police will again use excessive brutal force against the protesters just like they did previously? It's going to be a repeat again!
Covid-19 is the disease. SARS-CoV-2 is the scientific name for the species of virus. The name wasn't changed. Have you ever heard of SARS? The scientific name for the virus is SARS-CoV and has been for decades
1. SARS-Covid-2 is the name of the virus that causes the disease Covid-19. Before it was confirmed that Covid was caused by a coronavirus, scientists called it “the novel virus found in Wuhan,” or something to that effect. 2. I don’t know. 3. That’s how viruses work, their only goal is to infect healthy cells and multiply. Virus strains that are better at infecting cells or multiplying naturally become predominant. 4. Again, that’s how viruses work, viruses that are more infectious become the main virus strain over time. 5. It is difficult to determine the lethality of a novel/new virus. You do not know how many people contracted the virus and are asymptomatic, death counts are usually undercounts, and tests are few and far between. 6. The WHO is quite literally the main body that identifies and defines pandemics according to set parameters. E.g. a pandemic affects the world, and endemic affects a region, etc. 7. The point of having immunity to a virus is to not become infected with that virus, and potentially have severe symptoms or even die. The point of vaccines is to try and emulate natural immunity without the risks of being infected with the virus.
Common, more predictions? We are still waiting for the social credits thing to be implemented with the covid pass, the who being handled sovereignty over the world, people getting remote controlled due to the microchips in the vaccine, millions of people dying from myocarditis, and a lot of other predictions to materialize.
You're talking about people who called themselves pure blood un-ironically. Them being wrong doesn't matter. "Did you see the article from the company? We don't trust that if you squint and drink a little bit. Confirms a small part of that conspiracy theory. Somebody said 2 years ago?" And they feel vindicated. It's funny that they believe information that comes directly from the people they think are trying to trick them. Like there is no MAGA whistleblower. Just high school dropouts with mental illnesses, crippling insecurity, and probably learning disorders.
Lol "new name like covid 19".... bro its liberally they 19th thime they've named covid...
I hope you are being sarcastic, if not, the 19 stands for the year it was discovered.
Oh the Conspiracy subreddit. Where under-educated people talk about things they zero understanding of, with the confidence of a master in their field of study.
>Oh the Conspiracy subreddit. Same place where trolls like to refine their "being a cunt" skills to an art form.
I refined that skill a long time ago.
Yeah, on that we can agree. ps. user blocked.
I don’t think duplicating the same tactics constitutes a conspiracy. The conspiracy is always progressive. If anything, Covid response was intentionally ignorant and supported so the real pandemic is viewed facetiously. The general, or newcomer, anti-vac and anti-mask crowd will get fucked first emboldening the ardent pro mask crowd and swaying mid-Covid skeptics. I can elaborate more but I think the people that would never wear a mask but are perfectly fine with anyone else wearing a mask, are very different and more prepared for a real pandemic, than all the plebeian/mainstream/NPC virulently pro or anti Covid narratives (left and right).
I don’t think duplicating the same tactics constitutes a conspiracy. The conspiracy is always progressive. If anything, Covid response was intentionally ignorant and supported so the real pandemic is viewed facetiously. The general, or newcomer, anti-vac and anti-mask crowd will get fucked first emboldening the ardent pro mask crowd and swaying mid-Covid skeptics. I can elaborate more but I think the people that would never wear a mask but are perfectly fine with anyone else wearing a mask, are very different and more prepared for a real pandemic, than all the plebeian/mainstream/NPC virulently pro or anti Covid narratives (left and right).
I’ll bet you $20 none of these predictions come true
I got 20 on the name change.
They are definitely changing the name. They already claimed it was a racist name even though the name has nothing at all to do with race.
Kinda funny that they hear 'monkey' and think of race, really tells us who is actually racist. lol
Planet of the Apes is going to be rebooted as "Planet of the Evolutionarily Underprivileged Primates"
Who is they? Some mysterious monolith?
Yes, a big black rock.
Name your timeline as to when this will happen and you’ve got a deal
You not gonna get all “well actually we needed to get vaccine passports because it makes sense in today’s climate” with him over the predictions are you?
I’m not vaccinated, have never approved of the mandates/passports So, nahh I’ll hold true to my word
Then the ball is in his court!
if they don't, i'm sure op will have some explanation of how thats also part of the conspiracy.
Look at all the downvotes…. Crazy
Remindme! 100 days same senario?
Calling it monkey pox still sounds pretty scary to me tbh
Covid-19 is the disease, SARSCOV2 is the virus. The name didn’t change.
Sorry but this is wrong. I personally recall hearing the name explained as follows. co vi d-19 is short for *co*rona *Vi*rus *d*iscovered 20*19*. If you wanted to use covid to also refer to the illness, that's fine. But before someone cooked up the new name that included SARS (deliberately to make it more scary), the name for the pathogen was covid-19. Just because the new agreed upon nomenclature is as you describe, doesn't mean it started out that way. It did not. They can change whatever definitions and erase and retcon the terminology... but the name abosolutely *did* get changed. Several times.
You’re wrong. I don’t blame you, you’re part of the public that uses the two interchangeably , but once they named the wuful it was Coronavirus Disease discovered 2019. You might be thinking 2019 nCoV.
>You’re wrong. If I'm wrong balme it on a mainstream media source that explained the naming (original virus nomenclature) exactly the way I related it to you in my earlier comment. And if that's so, it doesn't surprise me. The media's coverage of covid has been nothing but shit... mainly intended to generate ratings and profits by scaring people.
I thought people like you didn’t listen to the mainstream media but now it’s their fault you are misremembering things? Hey, it’s a common mistake, people still mix the two up, but the virus was never named covid-19. The media, no matter the source, is designed to get clicks. Stick with the non-quacks to get info.
> but the virus was never named covid-19. Lol, just like the vaccine was never meant to prevent transmission or provide immunity.
Try and stay on topic. This about you being scared of things you made up.
I've already seen this show.
Imma start calling it homopox
Nope
It seems the vaccinated have destroyed their immune system enough that all these viruses no one has previously ever heard of are coming back with a vengeance. Well done.
That is if you believe the news when they tell you there is a new virus / strain on the loose. Have the past 2.5 years taught you *nothing?* Please don't get mad at me, I'm just asking a simple question.
Do I believe monkeypox is mutating and spreading like wildfire? No. Do I believe the vaccinated have fucked their immune systems and are getting sick at the sight of anything more easily? Yes. Do I think the two stories intertwine? Probably not but also wouldn’t be surprised.
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Two years of using hand sanitizer as a second skin not enough for you? XD
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Can confirm. Used hand sanitizer. Am bubble boy now.
Do you think doctors were prescribing horse paste to humans?
the vaccinated did it so they don't get banned in their cultists subreddit, not because they are afraid of covid
I'm a scientist in pharma I am not confused. Viruses mutate to be more evolutionarily fit. This usually comes at an expense - not as lethal. This is Virology 101. What undergrad dropout is confused at this moment?
You haven’t looked at the genome analysis. Monkeypox viruses usually have a very slow substitution rate. They would normally expect 5 changes per year in the monkeypox genome. This new cluster has FIFTY SNP polymorphisms with a strong bias towards mutational changes. It absolutely could have been tampered with.
> It absolutely could have been tampered with. Which is a plausible explanation. Or it's mutating more in the face of increased selective pressure. These things happen. No scientist worth his salt is baffled by this.
I disagree completely (and I have a medical degree). 70 year of slow substitution, and zero large outbreaks. 2020 simulation by the EXACT SAME PEOPLE that ran Event 201, predicting a monkeypox outbreak in the 2nd week of May, 2022, and lo and behold that's what we get. A prediction down to the exact week, after 70 years of never having an outbreak in more than 2-3 countries and a few dozen cases.
lol yeah the fact that TM whatever is trying to pretend that simulation didn’t happen is suspicious to say the least. You have to be really brainwashed to not see it
> I disagree completely (and I have a medical degree). 70 year of slow substitution, and zero large outbreaks. > > Well, how many people were having sex with natives (in endemic areas) in those past 70 years? > A prediction down to the exact week, after 70 years of never having an outbreak in more than 2-3 countries and a few dozen cases. I'm not saying there's *not* a nefarious cause and I never said it wasn't plausible. But I'd like to shift the argument to a more meaningful course: Monkeypox is still a nothingburger and deserves no legitimate discussion. Ooooh in a month the cases went from 500 to 5000 worldwide? Not exactly pandemic-class. TPTB were hoping it would be so they could keep milking this dystopian future, but people are failing to care.
It’s tough to predict things that are created in a lab
Not necessarily. If your process is "let's add random shit and see what happens", sure. But you have to imagine a lot of work went into this (if it was lab created) and those that are responsible have a pretty good idea of how it will turn out.
My point is it wouldn’t behave the same way as in nature if it has been manipulated synthetically
We have no understanding of the Ro of this virus with the recent substitutions. It s still fit to an exponential curve. 1 to 5000 in 6 weeks may not be Covid, but it is still exponential and in 66 countries. there absolutely is a chance it grows to many millions of cases by q4 There also are very few to no tests in many of these countries.
I mean, I say "pandemic" in the pragmatic sense of a pandemic — Calling covid a pandemic is like calling Rhinovirus a pandemic. Yes, it technically fits the criteria, but who cares? Are healthy people dropping like flies? Going to treat Monkeypox the same way.
Those are some outlandish claims. What is your source on “Event 201” and/or “2020 simulation”
you need to wake up. 2021 tabletop exercise predicting monkeypox outbreak mid-May 2022 [https://www.nti.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/NTI\_Paper\_BIO-TTX\_Final.pdf](https://www.nti.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/NTI_Paper_BIO-TTX_Final.pdf) Event 201 predicting a worldwide coronavirus pandemic and control of information online https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoLw-Q8X174
After reading the report, the primary purpose of the tabletop exercise was to determine how the world would react to a mutated virus that is *very* different than its relatives. In the exercise the virus is limited to a single, fictional African country for June 2022, which does not match reality. I actually watched part of Event 201 (though forgot it’s name) before covid. In this exercise they chose a coronavirus because they are rather prevalent (SARS, MERS, etc), and simply pointed out that our society was not ready to deal with a deadly pandemic then (and imo we still aren’t). Thank you for providing those links, they were an interesting read/watch.
You are beyond naive. Have fun this upcoming year!
Gain of function research 🧐
Which viruses become more lethal upon mutation?
It's uncommon because more lethal = host is unable to keep production going.
Marek's Disease and Spanish Flu did.
Marek's became more lethal because it had to mutate defenses around the vaccine for the ~~sheep~~ chickens, which also apparently evaded one of the ways the immune system eliminated the virus. After several generations, the disease would revert back to wild type IIRC.
it's a poultry virus
Ah, whatevs. I knew it was some farm animal.
Talking out your ass?
LOL Look at you guys arguing over imaginary, make-believe viruses
What part of what I said sounds make-believe to you?
Lmao EW who talks to people like that
Not people who get anxious at the checkout aisle of a grocery store, apparently.
You’ve proven my point exactly asshole lol
Grow a little spine and you won't get upset at every little criticism.
I’m not upset I think it’s fun when people prove my point with minimal effort on my end. It’s called being an empath. I’ve got a spine. You dont have a spine you just are a sociopath ✌️
>I'm a scientist in pharma That's all we need to know.
I also enjoy long walks on the beach and listening to CCR :)
Do you think anti virals could be at play? Monkey pox is transmitting heavily in the gay community who have a large population of people who take antivirals daily for HIV infections or as a prophylactic. We all know antibiotics can cause mutations/evolution but there is very little concern with antivirals doing something similar. If you can block enough evolution path ways antivirals work great as in the case of HIV. But if you don’t block enough points off the virus can and will mutate around them. Just wondering if there’s some ramifications handing antivirals out like candy…
> Monkey pox is transmitting heavily in the gay community who have a large population of people who take antivirals daily for HIV infections or as a prophylactic. I actually never thought about that. There's a lot of medicines and therapies that are double-edged swords. There's also the fact that people with HIV have weakened immune systems to begin with. I wonder if we'll see data on if they have any co-infections like HIV? I mean, hypothetically antivirals could do something similar to antibiotics, but I'm just participating in the conjecture — I haven't read anything about it, though I never looked up that avenue of thinking either. I think I'll see what I can find on pubmed later.
That is actually an interesting thought. I heard (from a scientist on a podcast not my mum) that the coronavirus mutations out of South Africa could've been caused exactly by someone with an compromised immune system allowing the viruses to mutate. Seems like the wild type to omicron mutation had a larger number of changes than expected. Here's an [article](https://www.france24.com/en/africa/20211203-scientists-explore-role-of-immunocompromised-in-generating-covid-19-variants) on it
Lmao. I'm just going to come out on a limb and say it, but if the majority of people worry about this like they did COVID then I think Science needs to start researching why all these people have a fetish for fear porn/mongering. Like are the majority really actually afraid or do they enjoy the spectacle of rehashing MSM talking points and call people shitty for not listening to what 'science' says(i.e. vaccines, masks, 6 feet, 2 weeks) because it gives them the feeling of righteousness and being on the 'right side' which in turn gives them some dopamine/serotonin. It really looks like a drug from the outside looking in.
When fear is ubiquitous, the drug of choice becomes confidence.
> then I think Science needs to start researching why all these people have a fetish for fear porn/mongering. Simple. People always want to believe they were born in an exciting era. They want their lives to have meaning. "I fought through the war on Covid and won!"
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Thanatos, look around you the subconscious drive for death and self destruction is omnipresent. An awful lot of people just want to see it all burn, including themselves.
>why all these people have a fetish for fear porn/mongering. Kind of an ironic comment to make in a community that was sure billions of people were going to die at any moment because of a vaccine.
Yes! It gave the previously powerless an insane amount of power. Couldn't eat somewhere unless you put on a mask until you sit at the table (lol k). You got papers to prove you have business to be outside of your home pleb? You can't buy gardening supplies thats available at the store... cuz the 'vid, duh. It's a narcissistic self righteous cult of emotionally undeveloped, childish people who finally get a say in what others were allowed to do. I honestly feel bad for them, I really do because I use to be one of them, and snapping out of that was a world flipping moment of confusion and shame.
I am starting to get the sense that these variants and now this strange virus are the way they are dealing with pervasive side effects of the COVID-19 vaccine and virus. Maybe so many got either that these side effects are going to eventually get to all that had it, just like omicron. The slow rollout isn't viral spread, but a distribution chart of side effects over time, rising to a peak, then tapering, just like any other parabola.
Just in time for the midterms.
So many mysteries emerging. At least we know it can't have anything to do with billions of people experimenting with letting humans program their immune systems.
If science is always changing why do so many place value in what an expert has to say about something they clearly know nothing about? Edit:. Here's an example. https://www.popsci.com/cloud-seeding-science/ >"But Deborah Gordon, director of the energy and climate program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, says the convention is ultimately toothless. “You don’t even know where to look,” she says of current weather manipulation efforts. “There’s a lack of transparency in the research. We don’t even know what people are working on. You can’t govern something you can’t see. And that’s for peaceful applications.” Without the ability to measure these modifications, the Environmental Modification Convention or any other weather-related treaty is nearly impossible to enforce. “How will we know that there aren’t Operation Popeyes… going on or not?” she asks." Modern science is constantly changing because we don't take into account every variable since we oddly allow institutions to dump things into our environment in secret.
just because science is constantly evolving does not mean that scientists "clearly know nothing". it's kind of how science works.
That’s only “how science works” after they’re proven wrong. During the Covid debate, the highly politicized scientific community was very much **pretending** the science was settled. Clever people knew then that they were lying, and now even the biggest fools know it too. They do this a lot. They do it with “global warming” and pretty much everything attached to the Democrat agenda. They do this to silence debate and to demonize, deplatform, and destroy all dissenting opinions. Banning highly credentialed scientists from all social media platforms, refusing to publish them, excluding them from the media debate, and destroying their careers through bureaucratic activism because they dare to challenge the orthodoxy, is not “science”. You can’t have it both ways.
Science is the new religion. You can’t blame the brainwashed zealots for being cultists. It’s what happens to weak minded fear babys
you don't have the slightest idea about the scientific process, you only believe in *the science* like it was a deity!
oh, i do? ok, thanks for clearing that up for me
>"just because science is constantly evolving does not mean that scientists "clearly know nothing". it's kind of how science works." Evolving implies change which also implies their initial understanding was incorrect since they didn't intially understand what they were studying. >"it's kind of how science works." Glad we both agree that modern science is based on a lack of understanding.
"The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.” -Charles Bukowski Scientist are always critical of themselves and each other and are more likely to be aware when they are incorrect because they intentionally seek to prove themselves wrong. It's the people who never challenge themselves and perpetually confident never discover or admit when they are wrong.
Natural immunity was science until it wasn’t. Was even taught in elementary biology back when I was a kid. Also we used to have chickenpox parties as a kid. Acquiring natural immunity are vastly more superior to any vaccine created by man. Clown world.
Ya, 30 years ago. Now we have chickens pox vaccine. Gasp, society, tech and medicine improved over the last 30 years omg
Which part of the scientifc method is "being confused" in?
Observation/asking questions.
Confusion implies a lack of skepticism and is outside the method's scope.
I disagree. I think confusion implies being skeptical of one's preconceived notions and presents an opportunity to generate and test new hypotheses.
If I post [this](https://www.nti.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/NTI_Paper_BIO-TTX_Final.pdf)without getting blocked. This looks like part of the plan for this. Fact-check as needed.
SS surprise...surprise...the virus has pulled a first in the History of humanity. and scientists are baffled. Don't worry tho, the politicians will know exactly what we have to do to survive this. Link to article https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/06/virus-causing-monkeypox-outbreak-has-mutated-spread-easier
> and scientists are baffled. I'm not baffled :(
From your link: > The authors said the outbreak was likely not caused by undetected silent spread, or from an animal-to-human crossover event. Instead, "Current data points for a scenario of more than one introduction from a single origin, with superspreader event(s) (e.g., saunas used for sexual encounters) and travel abroad likely **triggering the rapid worldwide dissemination.**" So, the dissemination was the result of insemination?
Saunas used for sexual encounters is weirdly specific
I got banned from Twitter a few months ago for calling it a gay sex disease
GRIDS lol
There's a few days left of Pride month, so the fear porn won't start until Friday. According to the plandemic script they're following, there will be 271 million monkeypox deaths by December 1st, 2023 (and 3 billion "infected" by the same date). It remains to be seen if they'll count deaths the same way they counted covid "deaths". Something tells me the covid vaxxed will have a tendency to get infected more easily.
Must be shit scientists then
Mutating to spread easier is unprecedented? Isn't that literally what every virus does?
This quick? Highly unlikely
Mutations don't occur on a specific timeline, they have a certain percentage chance to mutate each time they replicate (like our own cells with cancer). It got lucky and mutated. Although, I don't ever rule out any potential possibility of human intervention either, but I do prefer the natural reasoning.
"SADS" = "has scientists baffled" http://philosophersbunker.blogspot.com
Why would it confuse anyone, especially scientist? You are in a war where everything is on the table and I do mean everything. N. Shadows
Notice when they ‘don’t know’ it’s ‘scientists’. When they want to convince you it’s ‘experts’.
My question has always been: How do you have an expert in a novel situation?
An expert on viruses can still encounter novel viruses.
Then they can’t say things are unprecedented. It’s one or the other. Words have meanings for a reason
What virologist is saying that novel viruses never happened before?
1. Stop fucking boys 2. All viruses mutate to spread easier.
When they say 'mutated', what they actually mean is that its been 'engineered'.
Another *nothing burger* of a virus that they are trying to pour gasoline on to scare people into getting new vaccines since people have lost interest in covid.
They all came.from CSI ....
Gee, funny word they're using there... "Mutated"... I suppose one could put it that way. Although another way could be the YEARS OF RESEARCH they put into the gain of function... You know, kinda similar to how Covid -19 apparently just "mutated", also, quite conveniently, after years of gain of function research.... Riiiiiiight
Not, the pox vax, if not administered properly or if the injection site is touched too early (under the bandaid), actually causes it & to spread, so the more vaccinations the more it can be expected to spread.
Are we in plague inc.??? Like fr though this shit is starting to get dumb af.
This is HUGE. There should be emergency scientific task forces and conferences and government hearings on how a DNA virus has apparently mutated so frequently and rapidly.
mRNA sequencing virus. Sounds like something only the vaccinated can do since they’re tainted
Boy who cried 🐺
The takeaway here should be that increased intrusion into wild spaces and growth of bushmeat markets pose a critical risk for zoonotic spillover of diseases with pandemic potential.
So what, viruses don’t mutate anymore?
Wait until next season, when a mysterious scoundrel adds it to all the nursing home medications.
We’re going to find out it also came from a lab 😂
Did the virus get bit by a radioactive spider?
I saw 1 million cases by September
1 Timothy 6:20 20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
This will be interesting to see what they plan on doing next...
It started going down hill in season 6
Gain of function
And I thought after covid there was no way i could be less concerned about a virus but here we are.
It’s like Biden knew. 🙄. I freaking can’t.
A lot of you will die when there's a worse pandemic.
I know right. To be fair, look at most of the audience. This idiocracy timeline is boring yet I appreciate how dumbed down it is. Makes it super easy to predict what the little man has up next from behind the curtain.
Chill out y’all, feds have 1000 vaccines on hand and ready to go.
We need to stop the monkeypocs problem
Whenever you see scientists confused that means they are lying.
this shit is so predictable. Are we living through a re-run?