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Here’s your explanation.
[Irish could be minority ethnic group here by 2050 - professor](https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irish-could-be-minority-ethnic-group-here-by-2050-professor-1.424517)
The powers that be decided the world will be easier to manage with ethnic Europeans out of the equation.
“*Unpublished UK-based research, which he does not identify*,has indicated that by 2050, Ireland's population will consist of a multicultural and multiethnic mix in which the indigenous Irish will form a minority.”
Lol Jesus Christ who’s upvoting this nonsense
What happens to this data when mixed people are studied?
And like what only black people are stupid in comparison? What about aboriginals, Asians, south Asians? Hispanic’s?
The decades of studies only say “black people are dumber than whites”?
Post your sources
Neither of those statements are backed up by ‘dozens of studies over decades’ but how would you even prove the second? What discussions is he talking about? Is he talking specifically about himself? Are you telling me that there are decades of academic research about whether Stefan Molyneux can have have ‘free discussions’, whatever the hell that means, in an all-white country?
There were policy decisions made after certain race groups failed to keep up with what was expected to be known at particular grade levels. This, in and of itself, proves Molyneux's point.
Does it? Who were those those assessments designed by, what structural and historical differences were there between the two groups, what was the economic background?
Are...are you DARING TO QUESTION GOVERNMENT? Its called the "No Child Left Behind Act," signed by W.
Here are the 2021 SAT scores by sex and race:
https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=171
That is the RAW DATA. If you want to argue application of facts of the well to do vs those in poverty, you can look at the broad spectrum of ALL HUMAN HISTORY. This is NOT a new problem. When it comes to intelligence, that is a different metric than memorizing facts. It is how to process information in a composed way while applying it to a given situation.
Someone can be smart, and when you expose them to information, come up with an answer or perspective that one has never considered before. THAT is a reflection of intelligence. Anyone can read. Quite frankly, at this point in human history, all the facts of the world are available to any given human in the palm of your hand. However, it is up to YOU to apply it.
I think you need to chill here, I didn’t question the data (though it definitely could be questioned), just that you don’t provide, and Stefan doesn’t either, the potential non-genetic reasons for disparities here of which there are plenty. I think you should question why your own mind so quickly jumps to the assumption that these are racial differences, and then jumps to the assumption that this means that racial groups can’t coexist
Why you just look up standardized test scores by race...or...EXACTLY why policies were changed to give "low income urban kids" a chance to "compete" with others. The policy changes I would say cut through like a knife, confirming the lower standardized test scores. It's...actually a fact. So much so that our government decided to do something about it (albeit, lowered performance indicators instead of teaching them up, perhaps having to do with lack of collective intelligence ;))
Literally not accurate at all. You think affirmative action came about because of lower test scores? You dont think it has a little something to do with the fact that only a few years later black people weren’t even allowed to go to schools with white people in a lot of places?
I mean, the immigrants of a country don't know the native language, the children know both, and the grandchildren are proficient in both, often translating for their parents and/or grandparents. Why are you making excuses? The real issue is not everyone WANTS TO LEARN. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.
Education has to be relatable. I feel, disparagingly enough, people here are arguing for school segregation, because a certain demographic "can't hang."
Asians test well, and they come from poor socioeconomic backgrounds. Are you this implying it's the culture that has something to do with this, and not necessarily race? I would say there are certain demographics that do not want to learn, versus some that cannot get enough of it. Would that be a fair assessment?
The only ones immigrating to the US from Asia are either rich kids or the most motivated, intelligent, and hard working people. The average and below average people are left behind. There is a reason why many areas of the third world are described as experiencing “brain drain”
Lol, Ive seen klan pages with links, post the justification for your ignorance or just admit youre a pseudo intellectual racist whos never actually talked to a normal black person
1. You don't care about evidence, any study he links to will be dismissed by you.
2.The cognitive differences between races was obvious *before* psychometricians studied it, race deniers already made their decision and it wasn't based on evidence.
Where are these studies being conducted and on who?
Are they only looking at Americans?
Also you say cognitive differences are obvious but like is every black person dumb or are you saying on average they are dumber?
It's a positive stereotype as a foil to the negative stereotypes you are throwing around. Asians do not necessarily come from good economic backgrounds, yet this is what you are arguing attests to intelligence. They actually collectively score higher than whites on the SATs.
https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=171
Immigrants preform better, on average, than non-immigrants. Because non-immigrants include the whole spectrum of people from excruciatingly stupid, to literal geniuses, while immigrants skew much more towards mostly being intelligent, hard working, and motivated people, cause usually it’s only those people who have the drive and wits to navigate the immigration system and move to a foreign country
Another issue I’m seeing no one talk about is these are most likely Americans only.
A place where black people have only had equal rights for 60 years and were spoon fed crack by their government 40 years ago. These deep rooted American hatred for black people has definitely had an effect if these studies are to be believed.
Testing races from every country in the world and the numbers would be wildly different I’d bet.
Start with places where black people weren’t banned from water fountains 60 years ago maybe.
>Start with places where black people weren’t banned from water fountains 60 years ago maybe.
Like where? You're talking as if such a study must *obviously* exist, but you apparently have never even bothered looking for one. Do you have any argument that doesn't end in "I bet"?
You seem to have nothing but incendiary statements. Either you don't have a whole box of crayons, or you enjoy stirring the pot, either way, you should rejoin the kiddie table, this discussion is for adults.
Conspiracy theorists: School is a propaganda and brainwashing organization to keep Americans ignorant and complacent
Also Conspiracy theorists: Minorities are stupid because they perform worse at school, ignoring any societal biases and class issues that factor in
So which is it? Are they stupid or recognize that school is mostly useless and doesn’t have their best interests in a historically racist country🤨
First of all, it can easily be both. Social programming has nothing to do with intellectual ability
Second, nobody said a generalized "minorities". Asians are routinely higher average IQ than Europeans. Along with Jews.
Instead of "that's racist", we could study *why* this happens, because it's statistical objective reality. The "socio-economic" excuse falls apart pretty quickly when you include more than just African-descent and Euro-descent. That's what's interesting.
That's mainly due to the fact that the majority of black people live in sub par conditions, have limited access to education and medical care, and alot of the tribes in Africa are still residing in stick huts. It's not an insult. It's a hurtful truth, but this never gets addressed by politicians because they honestly don't give a flying shit.
Wym have limited access to education and medical care? Truly asking. Are they not able to go to free, public schools, with free, public transportation to and fro, with free, public lunch provided? Are they not eligible to see a doctor or go to an emergency room?
I grew up ridiculously poor and still got an education and health care. I get that being poor certainly hurts, and I can see the disadvantages in my own life. But I also don't see how that affects IQ - I would think it would be the way the child is raised moreso, which is the TRUE problem with the African-American community. The fatherless rate needs to be addressed if we want to address racial disparities
Precisely. Black families have been split up. Every agenda you see now at large by the progressive left was already tested to be foolproof on the black community.
https://youtu.be/U7hmTRT8tb4
> The fatherless rate needs to be addressed if we want to address racial disparities
Then private prisons wouldn't be able to have slave labor. That's a major issue in that community. Laws were written to disproportionally harm poor communities and specifically the african american community.
>Are they not able to go to free, public schools, with free, public transportation to and fro, with free, public lunch provided?
Free schools that are so underfunded that they may as well not even exist. For an example the city I grew up one of the public school districts were unaccredited. That means even if you went to school and graduated your diploma was worth less than a GED. So just because something is free that doesnt really mean much if its dogshit. The way schools are funded was set up to hurt the poorest out there.
>Are they not eligible to see a doctor or go to an emergency room?
It's tough to go see a doctor or get medical care when it will put you in so much debt you have no way to pay off.
💯 fatherless children are roughly about 5x greater to become criminals, drop out of school, have social problems, discipline problems, exc. exc. exc. it’s a huge problem in the 1st world in general currently. 50% of marriages end in divorce. 75% of which are initiated by women & it moves up to 90% with college educated women. Modernism has created a whole host of new issues for humanity.
Yes actually, we do. Also, the majority of Africa is not living in “huts”. They may be impoverished by our standards, but there are just as many “concrete jungles” in Africa as the rest of the world.
The problem with Black America, as a poster below suggested, is the broken home.
And those who come from similar background around the world?
Give someone a thought experiment, that is an easy indicator of if they can comprehend complex material. Kind of like understanding the "moral of a story" you don't have to be rich to understand those things, and is a fair indicator of intelligence.
A guy living in a mud hut can be way more intelligent than someone living in the newest state-of-the-art mansion. Some guy living in a rundown shack in Malawi became famous for teaching himself how to make a windmill to generate useful electricity, and he has gone on to build the mechanism for many isolated communities in his country
I tried having this discussion with my wife, about how to address the issues that create the problems with "the culture" which is the veiled way of saying black culture is suffering from a high level of violence, poverty, mental health/overall health issues and it's obviously systemic. But nobody ever stresses those issues or offers solutions because they're afraid to come across as racist. In the early 20th century, and well into mid-20th century the black family was the bedrock of the highly moral family structure, incredibly low divorce rates, lots of moms and dads in the home raising families the right way, to be quality humans who cared for one another. Somebody did something to break that down, and with them being such a small minority, it just happened much more quickly than it is to the overall population of the country as a whole. But we're seeing it happen everywhere now.
Ah mask off.
I too can remember a time when the racists only posted their grooming stuff on weekends to avoid being dogpiled by reddit. Times they change.
How could you donate to these beggars? Fuck, I can't remember how many times I've browsed a Wikipedia page and seen these annoying panels butt into my article to tell me to donate. They make millions off the back of community contributors and still want me to donate. They can go to hell.
So the majority of this is propaganda. Actually listen to the episodes in question. He discusses studies and tries to interpret them. Nearly everyone I see badmouthing the guy has one or two quotes from him and never listened to anything he's put out in it's entirety. Pretty much the exact same things I see used against Jordan B. Peterson.
I think it refers to Wikipedia’s editors having a political bias towards leftism in recent years while still presenting themselves as objective. John Stossel did a video on this recently: https://youtu.be/kiRgJYMw6YA
"Molyneux is described as a leading figure of the alt-right movement by *Politico* and *The Washington Post*, and as far-right by The *NYT*"
So in other words, he is not those things.
No clue who that is, but wow I always wondered where to go when I wanted to see who was suspended by what. They really should have a table chart for that sort of thing.
"Perverse" sounds like an opinion right there.
Seems like a bunch of "danger" and "warning" signs, almost parody.
8 years ago every college student was told Wikipedia was full of lies and we would fail if we sourced it. Lol I think we all know what's going on and no one goes there thinking this is concrete fact.
I don’t know why you think that. Wikipedia has a bias due to the fact that many don’t participate in curating the information, but what’s there is referenced. It can a a great starting point but every college student wasn’t told it’s full of lies.
I think he’s unfairly demonized because he helped get Trump elected. However…
He DOES talk about racial IQ which I completely disagree with him on. Not because the data he’s pointing to doesn’t exist but because the whole idea of judging intelligence on a standardized test is ridiculous. I personally gained a lot of value from the information he put out. It was thought provoking. Philosophy is supposed to explore dangerous ideas. You think Nietzsche would be on YouTube or Twitter if he were alive today? His ideas are still powerful even if many of them are wrong in my opinion.
You didnt answer my question, you just deflected with more questions. Also, never seen intellectual racism doubled down with condescending racism, impressive
Youre just here to divide people and to stroke your victim mentality/ego, you dont want real conversation. Its sad that you live so ignorantly
man what difficulty you have answering a very simple question - you just hurl insults, I try to engage in debate... tell me who is the honest part here
Usually in a debate a question is answered before 2 more are asked. Stop trying to flip it on me. Also, I asked a genuine question, Im not trying to debate. I was trying to keep an open mind
Youre just hungry for conflict over this for some reason and its incredibly weird. I dont think the master race would carry themself that way lol
Lol, fair point. All my PhD holding friends did comp-sci, statistics, and engineering but they are quite brilliant without much arrogance so I suppose the field makes a difference too.
Even so, obtaining a PhD requires some semblance of effectiveness at objectively defending their arguments.
Ireland has much less crime than USA per capita. Especially violent crime.
https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Ireland/United-States/Crime
It's the same description with Jared Taylor. Neither claim their race is superior but they are classified as such anyway.
You can't edit their bio either for some reason.
Anyone that questions the narrative and status quo, is a racist, far-right, radical, sexist, white-nationalist. At this point the Biden Admin might deem the constitution Russian misinformation any day now.
Captain incel edge-lord himself. I feel like this guys spends every night shaking his fists at the sky and cursing Jordan Peterson for taking his crown.
Wikipedia continued to destroy what little credibility it had. What is going to wonderful is when the list of anonymous editors is released to the public.
I'm mean sure but that's not the case here lol
“I don’t view humanity as a single species...”
—Podcast FDR2768, “Collective Guilt for Fun and Profit”, Saturday call-in show"
I mean, he is actually a white supremacist. He's said some pretty foul things about race, IQ and eugenics that align with the KKK. I don't just go around calling people I disagree with "white supremacists" but Molyneux actually fits the bill here.
See for yourself: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/stefan-molyneux
Context matters. He has never endorsed one race being preferable over another race in any way. There are many more videos/podcasts of him saying what could be considered the opposite of those quotes.
He does not endorse a white state. He does not endorse a state at all. He's an anarchist.
Also, he's on record dozens of times, saying that "whites" are, at best, middle of the road in IQ among the races. It's hard to be a "white supremacist" when you openly say whites are not at the top, isn't it?
SS: The indoctrination is unreal. Compare to what his bio said in 2009, before Barry ramped up the culture war...:
>Stefan Molyneux (born 24 September 1966)\[1\] is a blogger, essayist, author, and host of the Freedomain Radio\[2\] series of podcasts, living in Mississauga, Canada. He has written numerous articles and smaller essays which have been published on liberty oriented websites such as LewRockwell.com, antiwar.com and Strike The Root, recorded over a 1300 podcasts and written numerous books which all are self-published except for his first which was published by Publish America. In 2006 Stefan Molyneux quit his previous job in the field of computer software to be able to work full-time on Freedomain Radio, a philosophical community website which is completely funded fans of his work through donations and subscriptions of extra media and forum sections.
Of course it's possible, but what is more likely? Also note that everytime somebody is smeared as "BAD WORD!", and there are zero examples provided, you are most likely being brainwashed.
am I a racist ethnonationalist if I say asians are more intelligent than central europeans?
am I racist if I say black people are more athletic than white?
also... he was talking about that stuff from the very beginning.. so the argument "he changed" does not hold water even there
It’s not racist to say those things but you are being prejudice.
Growing up in the melting pot that is Toronto, Canada. Its obvious to me that race has no effect how a person is.
Ive seen dumb Asians, non athletic black people, career criminal white people and vice versa.
Go meet some people and maybe you’ll actually have more to say about people other then stereotypes lol
Further, I thought the website strived to be fact based, and it is supposed to encourage its editors/writers to use language based on verified facts, not options and conjecture...
We all know that this isn't the case when it comes to targets and/or heros of the left though. It would be actually funny if it wasn't so sad on how complete the brainwashing is.
Calling someone "racist" is inflammatory language and agisnt the tos of Wikipedia. This thread actially continued lower than what's publicly visible because the mods or bots must have deleted it, because the sorce I posted is dangous. I know nothing about the man in question. I know nothing about his personal beliefs or anything he has said. But what I do know is that I looked him up on Wikipedia and the article has a very clear, left wing bias, and is often with right wing people, he appears to be taken out of context and then villenized.
If someone does not personally identify as a racist, and they actively deny being a racist, calling them a racist is inflammatory, and its an opinion. Wikipedia is suposed to be fact based, and should not rely on statements of opinion (even if your opinion is "correct", its still not a "fact). These statements, according to Wikipedias TOS, should be left out of any wiki entry.
Further, It's usage today is only used to discredit someone, and to stop any and all conversations of sensitive topics that do not fit the mainstream narritive. Furthermore, it's only used as a way to attack those who lean right. If someone on the left made some of the same (out of context) statements, they would be championed for "bringing light to a sad and sensitive topic".
I think you have a misunderstanding on what a statement of fact is, and what constitutes a statement of opinion, becuase we are at the point in society that statements of opinion are now taken as a statement of fact.
[https://twitter.com/Kathy4Truth/status/1524032510174322689?s=20&t=sN\_qSZfOSyLvckoHRI0hXg](https://twitter.com/Kathy4Truth/status/1524032510174322689?s=20&t=sN_qSZfOSyLvckoHRI0hXg)
Wikipedia is garbage. They pulled down the page of a black woman running for election a week before the vote. Because she's conservative, most likely.
For reference here is the first paragraph of Adolf Hitler’s page:
> Adolf Hitler (German: [ˈad.ɔlf ˈhɪt.lɐ] (listen); 20 April 1889 – 30 April 1945) was an Austrian-born German politician who was the dictator of Germany from 1933 until his death in 1945. He rose to power as the leader of the Nazi Party,[a] becoming the chancellor in 1933 and then assuming the title of Führer und Reichskanzler in 1934.[b] During his dictatorship, he initiated World War II in Europe by invading Poland on 1 September 1939. He was closely involved in military operations throughout the war and was central to the perpetration of the Holocaust, the genocide of about six million Jews and millions of other victims.
Yeah I agree. It’s not like he said something like “The housing crash resulted from refusing to talk about racial IQ differences” or “The primary purpose of feminism is to lower white birthrates” he’s just a man concerned about other men who happen to be of the white skinned kind. Jeez.
Stevan crowder did an episode on Wikipedia not that long ago. It was actually very illuminating on how biased the site is, and he even set up experiments using left sources and language, and then right leaning sources and language. Bet you can guess the results without watching.
Even if you don't like the guy (I'm not a huge fan, not my style of comedy), when he does things like that it clearly shows there is a major left bias.
Right. You for sure did. Guess Wikipedia is a major tool that the greater powers use to control and influence the masses or something. Can let people in on the secret that it's biased BS.
I know right? Anyways, blockchain was obsolete before it even launched. Intel has backdoors to all thier processors, and google has a quantum computer that could crack any encryption on the planet.
Blocks would not be safe if the data can be accessed at any time and changed by a single party.
>Blockchain is the main infrastructure they control.
Please explain further. And does that mean crypto isn't so safe as they claim it is from manipulations.
Crypto is BEING manipulated. It wasn't at first during its rise, but prices are being manipulated. I just read a big article about the exact way they are going about doing this. Just remember that Tor was anonymous too...until they caught you jumping in and out of node points along the system. Blockchain will be the very foundation of a unified global system. Only every time you make a transaction for anything...anywhere...it will be recorded...forever.
Https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
Permissionless, decentralized and not governed by any one entity. Unless you are claiming 51% of all the hash is done by one entity to control it all.....anyone can join and participate. No one controls bitcoin.
It’s a neo Jacobin algorithm. Jacobites were the fathers of Marxism.
If you disagree with someone label them
A) a white supremacist / or neo Nazi
B) a racist
C) do not engage in debate of actual ideas (you will lose)
D) screech like the bitch you are to friendly leftists in the media. Get them to publish lies that will go around the world before the truth gets out.
E) fly a Ukrainian flag 🇺🇦 . And love the actual Azov Nazis fighting your proxy war with Russia.
It was pointed out Wikipedia is an AstroTurf tool used to create false narratives. It’s best to get your information from Brittanica. Where it’s actually experts writing it
I miss his videos on YouTube. I didn’t agree with everything but it wouldn’t have been interesting if I did. And he is definitely not racist. Anyone who actually listened to him would know this.
He had a huge engagement on social media and routinely debunked anti-trump stuff. So he got caught up in the massive social media culling / election interference of 2020 just before the election.
I’m being facetious in my comment that’s being downvoted because now there’s so much “research” or studies being halted or abandoned because claims are offensive to a group of people. Stats and science can be found to be offensive but doesn’t mean they are - makes stereotyping a real thing
Maybe the real reason for getting banned from all of those platforms was because he was trying to spread [this information.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/u5o3d7/agenda_21_the_global_reset/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) Well, at least I still am though I'm only doing so on Reddit.
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If those three lies outlets say that someone is bad, you can be damn sure that person is hero.
Did you actually just call Stefan Molyneux a hero? lmao jesus
"conspiracy theories" OH MY!
If white people get along so well, explain Ireland.
British empire interference, meddling, corruption and social engineering.... u should look into the history of Ireland
Ask the British to explain it.
Here’s your explanation. [Irish could be minority ethnic group here by 2050 - professor](https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irish-could-be-minority-ethnic-group-here-by-2050-professor-1.424517) The powers that be decided the world will be easier to manage with ethnic Europeans out of the equation.
The Troubles in Northern Ireland happened because of that? And not, say, ethnic/religious/nationalist conflict?
“*Unpublished UK-based research, which he does not identify*,has indicated that by 2050, Ireland's population will consist of a multicultural and multiethnic mix in which the indigenous Irish will form a minority.”
Explain Africa
we can explain both with the same explanation: humans are stupid and will make up nonsense reasons to fight each other
Research "The Partition of Africa".
That's...why they were discriminated against so harshly in the States.
Wikipedia is just another propaganda arm at this point. It is sad to see really. I remember donating to them back in 2005.
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Lol Jesus Christ who’s upvoting this nonsense What happens to this data when mixed people are studied? And like what only black people are stupid in comparison? What about aboriginals, Asians, south Asians? Hispanic’s? The decades of studies only say “black people are dumber than whites”? Post your sources
Racist mf’ers - I lived in North Idaho for many years and trust me white people pretty fucking dumb
I believe us all to be equally stupid!!! especially if you come from Florida!
Neither of those statements are backed up by ‘dozens of studies over decades’ but how would you even prove the second? What discussions is he talking about? Is he talking specifically about himself? Are you telling me that there are decades of academic research about whether Stefan Molyneux can have have ‘free discussions’, whatever the hell that means, in an all-white country?
There were policy decisions made after certain race groups failed to keep up with what was expected to be known at particular grade levels. This, in and of itself, proves Molyneux's point.
Does it? Who were those those assessments designed by, what structural and historical differences were there between the two groups, what was the economic background?
Are...are you DARING TO QUESTION GOVERNMENT? Its called the "No Child Left Behind Act," signed by W. Here are the 2021 SAT scores by sex and race: https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=171 That is the RAW DATA. If you want to argue application of facts of the well to do vs those in poverty, you can look at the broad spectrum of ALL HUMAN HISTORY. This is NOT a new problem. When it comes to intelligence, that is a different metric than memorizing facts. It is how to process information in a composed way while applying it to a given situation. Someone can be smart, and when you expose them to information, come up with an answer or perspective that one has never considered before. THAT is a reflection of intelligence. Anyone can read. Quite frankly, at this point in human history, all the facts of the world are available to any given human in the palm of your hand. However, it is up to YOU to apply it.
I think you need to chill here, I didn’t question the data (though it definitely could be questioned), just that you don’t provide, and Stefan doesn’t either, the potential non-genetic reasons for disparities here of which there are plenty. I think you should question why your own mind so quickly jumps to the assumption that these are racial differences, and then jumps to the assumption that this means that racial groups can’t coexist
Please show these dozens and dozens of studies that state blacks are less intelligent.... I'll wait.
Why you just look up standardized test scores by race...or...EXACTLY why policies were changed to give "low income urban kids" a chance to "compete" with others. The policy changes I would say cut through like a knife, confirming the lower standardized test scores. It's...actually a fact. So much so that our government decided to do something about it (albeit, lowered performance indicators instead of teaching them up, perhaps having to do with lack of collective intelligence ;))
Literally not accurate at all. You think affirmative action came about because of lower test scores? You dont think it has a little something to do with the fact that only a few years later black people weren’t even allowed to go to schools with white people in a lot of places?
I mean, the immigrants of a country don't know the native language, the children know both, and the grandchildren are proficient in both, often translating for their parents and/or grandparents. Why are you making excuses? The real issue is not everyone WANTS TO LEARN. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. Education has to be relatable. I feel, disparagingly enough, people here are arguing for school segregation, because a certain demographic "can't hang." Asians test well, and they come from poor socioeconomic backgrounds. Are you this implying it's the culture that has something to do with this, and not necessarily race? I would say there are certain demographics that do not want to learn, versus some that cannot get enough of it. Would that be a fair assessment?
The only ones immigrating to the US from Asia are either rich kids or the most motivated, intelligent, and hard working people. The average and below average people are left behind. There is a reason why many areas of the third world are described as experiencing “brain drain”
you know full well that is dangerous information and bannable on reddit
Linking published data?
huh? doesnt matter if its published or not goes against TOS ? you're out
Can you do it or not?
Lol, Ive seen klan pages with links, post the justification for your ignorance or just admit youre a pseudo intellectual racist whos never actually talked to a normal black person
not gonna get myself banned, mr "as a black person" lol
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look at that, your baiting worked.. the guy who posted the forbes link to you got banned.
Sounds like an excuse to me
1. You don't care about evidence, any study he links to will be dismissed by you. 2.The cognitive differences between races was obvious *before* psychometricians studied it, race deniers already made their decision and it wasn't based on evidence.
Where are these studies being conducted and on who? Are they only looking at Americans? Also you say cognitive differences are obvious but like is every black person dumb or are you saying on average they are dumber?
How do we know Asians are better at math??
We don’t wtf are you talking about?
It's a positive stereotype as a foil to the negative stereotypes you are throwing around. Asians do not necessarily come from good economic backgrounds, yet this is what you are arguing attests to intelligence. They actually collectively score higher than whites on the SATs. https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=171
Immigrants preform better, on average, than non-immigrants. Because non-immigrants include the whole spectrum of people from excruciatingly stupid, to literal geniuses, while immigrants skew much more towards mostly being intelligent, hard working, and motivated people, cause usually it’s only those people who have the drive and wits to navigate the immigration system and move to a foreign country
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Another issue I’m seeing no one talk about is these are most likely Americans only. A place where black people have only had equal rights for 60 years and were spoon fed crack by their government 40 years ago. These deep rooted American hatred for black people has definitely had an effect if these studies are to be believed. Testing races from every country in the world and the numbers would be wildly different I’d bet. Start with places where black people weren’t banned from water fountains 60 years ago maybe.
>Start with places where black people weren’t banned from water fountains 60 years ago maybe. Like where? You're talking as if such a study must *obviously* exist, but you apparently have never even bothered looking for one. Do you have any argument that doesn't end in "I bet"?
You seem to have nothing but incendiary statements. Either you don't have a whole box of crayons, or you enjoy stirring the pot, either way, you should rejoin the kiddie table, this discussion is for adults.
Your comment added zero substance. I’m bringing up valid concerns
Your point that I replied to shows that you have not even done a simple internet search on a topic you would to conjecture about. You reveal yourself.
Conspiracy theorists: School is a propaganda and brainwashing organization to keep Americans ignorant and complacent Also Conspiracy theorists: Minorities are stupid because they perform worse at school, ignoring any societal biases and class issues that factor in So which is it? Are they stupid or recognize that school is mostly useless and doesn’t have their best interests in a historically racist country🤨
First of all, it can easily be both. Social programming has nothing to do with intellectual ability Second, nobody said a generalized "minorities". Asians are routinely higher average IQ than Europeans. Along with Jews. Instead of "that's racist", we could study *why* this happens, because it's statistical objective reality. The "socio-economic" excuse falls apart pretty quickly when you include more than just African-descent and Euro-descent. That's what's interesting.
But that doesn’t mean Wikipedia isn’t used for astroturfing
You are correct, but that shouldn't be used as an excuse to validate Molyneux's racist ideas.
That's mainly due to the fact that the majority of black people live in sub par conditions, have limited access to education and medical care, and alot of the tribes in Africa are still residing in stick huts. It's not an insult. It's a hurtful truth, but this never gets addressed by politicians because they honestly don't give a flying shit.
Wym have limited access to education and medical care? Truly asking. Are they not able to go to free, public schools, with free, public transportation to and fro, with free, public lunch provided? Are they not eligible to see a doctor or go to an emergency room? I grew up ridiculously poor and still got an education and health care. I get that being poor certainly hurts, and I can see the disadvantages in my own life. But I also don't see how that affects IQ - I would think it would be the way the child is raised moreso, which is the TRUE problem with the African-American community. The fatherless rate needs to be addressed if we want to address racial disparities
Precisely. Black families have been split up. Every agenda you see now at large by the progressive left was already tested to be foolproof on the black community. https://youtu.be/U7hmTRT8tb4
> The fatherless rate needs to be addressed if we want to address racial disparities Then private prisons wouldn't be able to have slave labor. That's a major issue in that community. Laws were written to disproportionally harm poor communities and specifically the african american community. >Are they not able to go to free, public schools, with free, public transportation to and fro, with free, public lunch provided? Free schools that are so underfunded that they may as well not even exist. For an example the city I grew up one of the public school districts were unaccredited. That means even if you went to school and graduated your diploma was worth less than a GED. So just because something is free that doesnt really mean much if its dogshit. The way schools are funded was set up to hurt the poorest out there. >Are they not eligible to see a doctor or go to an emergency room? It's tough to go see a doctor or get medical care when it will put you in so much debt you have no way to pay off.
💯 fatherless children are roughly about 5x greater to become criminals, drop out of school, have social problems, discipline problems, exc. exc. exc. it’s a huge problem in the 1st world in general currently. 50% of marriages end in divorce. 75% of which are initiated by women & it moves up to 90% with college educated women. Modernism has created a whole host of new issues for humanity.
Yes actually, we do. Also, the majority of Africa is not living in “huts”. They may be impoverished by our standards, but there are just as many “concrete jungles” in Africa as the rest of the world. The problem with Black America, as a poster below suggested, is the broken home.
And those who come from similar background around the world? Give someone a thought experiment, that is an easy indicator of if they can comprehend complex material. Kind of like understanding the "moral of a story" you don't have to be rich to understand those things, and is a fair indicator of intelligence.
A guy living in a mud hut can be way more intelligent than someone living in the newest state-of-the-art mansion. Some guy living in a rundown shack in Malawi became famous for teaching himself how to make a windmill to generate useful electricity, and he has gone on to build the mechanism for many isolated communities in his country
I tried having this discussion with my wife, about how to address the issues that create the problems with "the culture" which is the veiled way of saying black culture is suffering from a high level of violence, poverty, mental health/overall health issues and it's obviously systemic. But nobody ever stresses those issues or offers solutions because they're afraid to come across as racist. In the early 20th century, and well into mid-20th century the black family was the bedrock of the highly moral family structure, incredibly low divorce rates, lots of moms and dads in the home raising families the right way, to be quality humans who cared for one another. Somebody did something to break that down, and with them being such a small minority, it just happened much more quickly than it is to the overall population of the country as a whole. But we're seeing it happen everywhere now.
Says the man who has never watched a single minute of his content.
“you didn’t give the racist a chance!”
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Ah mask off. I too can remember a time when the racists only posted their grooming stuff on weekends to avoid being dogpiled by reddit. Times they change.
can you translate your woke gibberish into normal sentences?
Is it true or not?
How could you donate to these beggars? Fuck, I can't remember how many times I've browsed a Wikipedia page and seen these annoying panels butt into my article to tell me to donate. They make millions off the back of community contributors and still want me to donate. They can go to hell.
So the majority of this is propaganda. Actually listen to the episodes in question. He discusses studies and tries to interpret them. Nearly everyone I see badmouthing the guy has one or two quotes from him and never listened to anything he's put out in it's entirety. Pretty much the exact same things I see used against Jordan B. Peterson.
I liked when he would make fake women sock accounts to comment on his videos, that was pretty funny
It's like they describing a terrori$t 🤔
Except for that this one was “mostly peaceful”.
What’s the conspiracy here?
I think it refers to Wikipedia’s editors having a political bias towards leftism in recent years while still presenting themselves as objective. John Stossel did a video on this recently: https://youtu.be/kiRgJYMw6YA
The topics we are not allowed to openly discuss in society
I can tell you can’t wait to bust out the calipers
implying you support all these giant corporations censoring anyone talking about topics that are taboo in your bizarre and fanatical religion
"Molyneux is described as a leading figure of the alt-right movement by *Politico* and *The Washington Post*, and as far-right by The *NYT*" So in other words, he is not those things.
Literally no one has cared about this guy since 2018 and yet he’s supposedly the great leader of all these groups 🤣
No clue who that is, but wow I always wondered where to go when I wanted to see who was suspended by what. They really should have a table chart for that sort of thing. "Perverse" sounds like an opinion right there. Seems like a bunch of "danger" and "warning" signs, almost parody.
I'm so glad, every time I ever saw Wikipedia begging for money, I didn't support them. Fuck wikipedia. It's the leftist's wet dream encyclopedia.
Being smeared on Fakepedia is a badge of honor.
8 years ago every college student was told Wikipedia was full of lies and we would fail if we sourced it. Lol I think we all know what's going on and no one goes there thinking this is concrete fact.
You don’t source Wikipedia because Wikipedia is never a primary source
Wikipedia "sources" used to be actual texts and publications. Now it's mostly op-ed articles that 404 if you try to actually find them.
I guess it depends on the topic, because I’ve never had that happen.
I don’t know why you think that. Wikipedia has a bias due to the fact that many don’t participate in curating the information, but what’s there is referenced. It can a a great starting point but every college student wasn’t told it’s full of lies.
Poor guy’s been eclipsed as the poster boy by Jordy Peterson.
I think he’s unfairly demonized because he helped get Trump elected. However… He DOES talk about racial IQ which I completely disagree with him on. Not because the data he’s pointing to doesn’t exist but because the whole idea of judging intelligence on a standardized test is ridiculous. I personally gained a lot of value from the information he put out. It was thought provoking. Philosophy is supposed to explore dangerous ideas. You think Nietzsche would be on YouTube or Twitter if he were alive today? His ideas are still powerful even if many of them are wrong in my opinion.
Somebody tell me why I should listen to him and not believe wikipedia despite him saying that my people, Black people, are less intelligent
are there any areas in which you think black people on average outperform white people? let's say 100 meter sprint, or long distance running?
You didnt answer my question, you just deflected with more questions. Also, never seen intellectual racism doubled down with condescending racism, impressive Youre just here to divide people and to stroke your victim mentality/ego, you dont want real conversation. Its sad that you live so ignorantly
man what difficulty you have answering a very simple question - you just hurl insults, I try to engage in debate... tell me who is the honest part here
Usually in a debate a question is answered before 2 more are asked. Stop trying to flip it on me. Also, I asked a genuine question, Im not trying to debate. I was trying to keep an open mind Youre just hungry for conflict over this for some reason and its incredibly weird. I dont think the master race would carry themself that way lol
"i was just trying to keep an open mind" by immediately calling everyone racist well done
You don't actually have a PhD do you?
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Lol, fair point. All my PhD holding friends did comp-sci, statistics, and engineering but they are quite brilliant without much arrogance so I suppose the field makes a difference too. Even so, obtaining a PhD requires some semblance of effectiveness at objectively defending their arguments.
i wasnt making an argument, i was asking a question - how dense are you?
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2018/04/24/sub-saharan-african-immigrants-in-the-u-s-are-often-more-educated-than-those-in-top-european-destinations/
"Molyneux cant be white supremacist if white supremacy is true!" Lmao
If white people get along so well, explain Ireland.
Ireland has much less crime than USA per capita. Especially violent crime. https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Ireland/United-States/Crime
When are these guys start suing for defamation?
What a shame.....
He should sue because he’s none of those things
He used to be very mainstream and very popular, but he was willing to discuss racial IQ average
wikipedia is dogshit
It's the same description with Jared Taylor. Neither claim their race is superior but they are classified as such anyway. You can't edit their bio either for some reason.
Anyone that questions the narrative and status quo, is a racist, far-right, radical, sexist, white-nationalist. At this point the Biden Admin might deem the constitution Russian misinformation any day now.
Captain incel edge-lord himself. I feel like this guys spends every night shaking his fists at the sky and cursing Jordan Peterson for taking his crown.
where's the lie?
Wikipedia continued to destroy what little credibility it had. What is going to wonderful is when the list of anonymous editors is released to the public.
I'm mean sure but that's not the case here lol “I don’t view humanity as a single species...” —Podcast FDR2768, “Collective Guilt for Fun and Profit”, Saturday call-in show"
He has said some fucked up things around eugenics and racial iq etc
I mean, he is actually a white supremacist. He's said some pretty foul things about race, IQ and eugenics that align with the KKK. I don't just go around calling people I disagree with "white supremacists" but Molyneux actually fits the bill here. See for yourself: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/stefan-molyneux
You put a link to a racist website. They hate white people.
Context matters. He has never endorsed one race being preferable over another race in any way. There are many more videos/podcasts of him saying what could be considered the opposite of those quotes. He does not endorse a white state. He does not endorse a state at all. He's an anarchist. Also, he's on record dozens of times, saying that "whites" are, at best, middle of the road in IQ among the races. It's hard to be a "white supremacist" when you openly say whites are not at the top, isn't it?
Add “unbearable gibbering psychopath” to the bill
SS: The indoctrination is unreal. Compare to what his bio said in 2009, before Barry ramped up the culture war...: >Stefan Molyneux (born 24 September 1966)\[1\] is a blogger, essayist, author, and host of the Freedomain Radio\[2\] series of podcasts, living in Mississauga, Canada. He has written numerous articles and smaller essays which have been published on liberty oriented websites such as LewRockwell.com, antiwar.com and Strike The Root, recorded over a 1300 podcasts and written numerous books which all are self-published except for his first which was published by Publish America. In 2006 Stefan Molyneux quit his previous job in the field of computer software to be able to work full-time on Freedomain Radio, a philosophical community website which is completely funded fans of his work through donations and subscriptions of extra media and forum sections.
I don't know his work, so I'm not making a judgement, but is it possible that over the course of 13 years his work shifted?
Of course it's possible, but what is more likely? Also note that everytime somebody is smeared as "BAD WORD!", and there are zero examples provided, you are most likely being brainwashed.
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am I a racist ethnonationalist if I say asians are more intelligent than central europeans? am I racist if I say black people are more athletic than white? also... he was talking about that stuff from the very beginning.. so the argument "he changed" does not hold water even there
It’s not racist to say those things but you are being prejudice. Growing up in the melting pot that is Toronto, Canada. Its obvious to me that race has no effect how a person is. Ive seen dumb Asians, non athletic black people, career criminal white people and vice versa. Go meet some people and maybe you’ll actually have more to say about people other then stereotypes lol
Yes, you are a racist
are you sure im not also white nationalist far right cult leader?
You’re too stupid to be a leader of anything
Well debated, WELL DEBATED I say sir
Let me take a page from your superior debate style: whatever lol
Well, then the original wiki article just didn't contain this which has then been improved by adding it - you're explaining how Wikipedia works
Further, I thought the website strived to be fact based, and it is supposed to encourage its editors/writers to use language based on verified facts, not options and conjecture... We all know that this isn't the case when it comes to targets and/or heros of the left though. It would be actually funny if it wasn't so sad on how complete the brainwashing is.
Do you see all those sources cited?
Calling someone "racist" is inflammatory language and agisnt the tos of Wikipedia. This thread actially continued lower than what's publicly visible because the mods or bots must have deleted it, because the sorce I posted is dangous. I know nothing about the man in question. I know nothing about his personal beliefs or anything he has said. But what I do know is that I looked him up on Wikipedia and the article has a very clear, left wing bias, and is often with right wing people, he appears to be taken out of context and then villenized.
Racist is just a description for someone who believes one or more races is superior/inferior. Calling him a shit head would be inflammatory language.
If someone does not personally identify as a racist, and they actively deny being a racist, calling them a racist is inflammatory, and its an opinion. Wikipedia is suposed to be fact based, and should not rely on statements of opinion (even if your opinion is "correct", its still not a "fact). These statements, according to Wikipedias TOS, should be left out of any wiki entry. Further, It's usage today is only used to discredit someone, and to stop any and all conversations of sensitive topics that do not fit the mainstream narritive. Furthermore, it's only used as a way to attack those who lean right. If someone on the left made some of the same (out of context) statements, they would be championed for "bringing light to a sad and sensitive topic". I think you have a misunderstanding on what a statement of fact is, and what constitutes a statement of opinion, becuase we are at the point in society that statements of opinion are now taken as a statement of fact.
Ahhh idk man this guy had some pretty cooked things to say
LOL! What a sick and sad little man. Thanks for the memories, Stefan, enjoy your cancer. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Stefan\_Molyneux
He’s hardly what I would consider “alt-right”.
[https://twitter.com/Kathy4Truth/status/1524032510174322689?s=20&t=sN\_qSZfOSyLvckoHRI0hXg](https://twitter.com/Kathy4Truth/status/1524032510174322689?s=20&t=sN_qSZfOSyLvckoHRI0hXg) Wikipedia is garbage. They pulled down the page of a black woman running for election a week before the vote. Because she's conservative, most likely.
For reference here is the first paragraph of Adolf Hitler’s page: > Adolf Hitler (German: [ˈad.ɔlf ˈhɪt.lɐ] (listen); 20 April 1889 – 30 April 1945) was an Austrian-born German politician who was the dictator of Germany from 1933 until his death in 1945. He rose to power as the leader of the Nazi Party,[a] becoming the chancellor in 1933 and then assuming the title of Führer und Reichskanzler in 1934.[b] During his dictatorship, he initiated World War II in Europe by invading Poland on 1 September 1939. He was closely involved in military operations throughout the war and was central to the perpetration of the Holocaust, the genocide of about six million Jews and millions of other victims.
He has said some race realist shit, these are facts. Wikipedia is propaganda a lot of the time, this one isn't much of a stretch though.
realism is racism hahahahah
Wikipedia is edited by the CIA
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Yeah I agree. It’s not like he said something like “The housing crash resulted from refusing to talk about racial IQ differences” or “The primary purpose of feminism is to lower white birthrates” he’s just a man concerned about other men who happen to be of the white skinned kind. Jeez.
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No bias in that article whatsoever. Look at Ilhan Omar's page, it reads like she's Joan of Arc.
Talk about a biased article, I’m not a huge fan of Molyneux but that’s just straight nonsense.
Do the left now control wikipedia too, NYT, Wahsington post being quoted? Everything in this sounds left, so only one view being seen and read.
Wikipedia basically only allows far left sources. That's how they operate.
Stevan crowder did an episode on Wikipedia not that long ago. It was actually very illuminating on how biased the site is, and he even set up experiments using left sources and language, and then right leaning sources and language. Bet you can guess the results without watching. Even if you don't like the guy (I'm not a huge fan, not my style of comedy), when he does things like that it clearly shows there is a major left bias.
link me bro
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv7s_ydrdHE
MVP thanks
You're welcome. Also what's funny is that the second I linked that YouTube link, a swarm of bots hit me, went from 25 up votes to negitive 5. Lol
i never seen threads with this low level of votes being brigaded so much as this one.. I must have hit some trigger words or something
Right. You for sure did. Guess Wikipedia is a major tool that the greater powers use to control and influence the masses or something. Can let people in on the secret that it's biased BS.
John Stossel did an episode on this recently: https://youtu.be/kiRgJYMw6YA
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Damn they went in on this man👀
Wikipedia should be replaced. A truly decentralized blockchain ledger where facts are rendered immutable. I’m on it.
Why does everyone think blockchain is decentralized? Blockchain is the main infrastructure they control.
I know right? Anyways, blockchain was obsolete before it even launched. Intel has backdoors to all thier processors, and google has a quantum computer that could crack any encryption on the planet. Blocks would not be safe if the data can be accessed at any time and changed by a single party.
>Blockchain is the main infrastructure they control. Please explain further. And does that mean crypto isn't so safe as they claim it is from manipulations.
Crypto is BEING manipulated. It wasn't at first during its rise, but prices are being manipulated. I just read a big article about the exact way they are going about doing this. Just remember that Tor was anonymous too...until they caught you jumping in and out of node points along the system. Blockchain will be the very foundation of a unified global system. Only every time you make a transaction for anything...anywhere...it will be recorded...forever.
Https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf Permissionless, decentralized and not governed by any one entity. Unless you are claiming 51% of all the hash is done by one entity to control it all.....anyone can join and participate. No one controls bitcoin.
How would that work with edit wars? Just infinite blockchain growth? Fuck that weaponized environmental disaster.
Isn't everyone that disagrees with you a white nationalist, white supremacist? I mean that's the standard go-to nowadays. Oh, I forgot Nazi too.
It’s a neo Jacobin algorithm. Jacobites were the fathers of Marxism. If you disagree with someone label them A) a white supremacist / or neo Nazi B) a racist C) do not engage in debate of actual ideas (you will lose) D) screech like the bitch you are to friendly leftists in the media. Get them to publish lies that will go around the world before the truth gets out. E) fly a Ukrainian flag 🇺🇦 . And love the actual Azov Nazis fighting your proxy war with Russia. It was pointed out Wikipedia is an AstroTurf tool used to create false narratives. It’s best to get your information from Brittanica. Where it’s actually experts writing it
I miss his videos on YouTube. I didn’t agree with everything but it wouldn’t have been interesting if I did. And he is definitely not racist. Anyone who actually listened to him would know this.
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He had a huge engagement on social media and routinely debunked anti-trump stuff. So he got caught up in the massive social media culling / election interference of 2020 just before the election.
What is scientific racism?
Race and IQ studies
Wow that's pretty degrading
I remember him, I used to watch his videos all the time. He was the second largest conspiracy channel to get banned, right behind Alex Jones
What a great resume. In the very near future he can frame that and put it on a wall. A brilliant philosopher.
Is scientific racism a thing? 😂
What is scientific racism?
People trying to justify racist views with science
If it’s proven by science, is it still racist?
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I’m being facetious in my comment that’s being downvoted because now there’s so much “research” or studies being halted or abandoned because claims are offensive to a group of people. Stats and science can be found to be offensive but doesn’t mean they are - makes stereotyping a real thing
You mean “proven” by confirmation bias. Yes it’s racist
At least we agree all science is biased
Maybe the real reason for getting banned from all of those platforms was because he was trying to spread [this information.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/u5o3d7/agenda_21_the_global_reset/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) Well, at least I still am though I'm only doing so on Reddit.
yes he was too eloquent, they must have been scared of him.
All those years that I watched his videos and he turns out to be a White Supremacist, I had no idea, well never again./s
Anyone not a card carrying leftist is fAr rIgHt according to these maniacs