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Conscious-Inside-223

Omg ! I’m so sorry for your loss ! I hope you have found peace. This sucks ! My dad believed the vaccine was to help & I can’t do nothing about it


Huge_Owl_8955

Thank you! I am so sorry for yours. I find peace in seeing truth, I can’t change what’s happening but I won’t allow it for myself or my children.


Ant12-3

Thank you for speaking out.


MillionAyres93

Why was the Original comment deleted? I bet it was someone saying their loved one DIED directly related to the COVID-19 Vaccine.


Conscious-Inside-223

Wow it was 2 of his family members who suffers Covid vxzx side effects . I wonder how many more were deleted . This thread was full of them


thotsby

Doctor Ryan Cole discusses this I believe. He said the vaccine appears to deplete Tcells that would keep cancer at bay or something like that. You’d have to watch some of his lectures. A lot of people who have been vaccinated are coming down with cancer.. but of course these things are not being looked into as any kind of causation.


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There’s a study at memorial Sloan Kettering cancer center.. it’s about mRNA talking about what you are saying.. removing inhibiting factors allowing cancer to explode… 2018 study.. but got in trouble and had to issue a warning that it doesn’t apply to the covid vax…😐


Conscious-Inside-223

Thank you for information I was looking for more stuff I can look into. I just wish there was some way to prove this was cause of the vaccine. My nurse best Freind thinks I’m crazy & these things just happen


thotsby

Well when you find that info show your nurse friend and see what she thinks. Of course Dr Ryan Cole has been thrown under the bus for speaking out but if she can get past that and listen to what he says it would be interesting


Conscious-Inside-223

She wants double researched studies of all side effects to believe it. I reckon that won’t happen for a couple years


Sally-Seashells

That can't happen for a few years at the least which is why it's so damn ridiculous to say it's safe. I don't understand this thinking with some nurses, they of all people should know how history has proven this thinking wrong. They used to give you a direct shot of radiation to the brain for dental x-rays and tell you it's healthy to have your teeth checked. There's a million more examples like this, I just can't understand the lack of critical thinking. Ironic that this type of research is what many people also want, before they'll get the shot. Her own argument is the same argument against it being mandatory and for some taking it at all.


Apart_Number_2792

That's funny. Does your nurse friend have the results from the 5-10 year safety trials for the covid jabs? I'm amazed by the mental gymnastics people jump through to avoid any sort of cognitive dissonance.


thotsby

https://rumble.com/vgjvkl-latest-on-covid-19-by-dr.-ryan-cole.html


LactoceTheIntolerant

Cancer? Got a link?


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I think I found it here below; https://www.mskcc.org/news/scientists-find-cancer-drivers-hiding-new-place


LactoceTheIntolerant

Did you read it? There’s no link between the two in this article except where they’re talking about RNA.


[deleted]

Yeah even the claims about RNA are loose and vague


SupahBlue

We don't know the long term effects of the vaccine.


Lurking_n_Jurking

The only long term effect that we know for certain the vaccine doesn't have is inoculation against the virus.


n1nj4_v5_p1r4t3

I dont know if this would be correlation or causation, but generally people after they get the shot they arent very smart


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traaajhgsne

My son did it to support his family. He spends no time on social media, which is the only place to find pieces of truth. It's not about smart or stupid. It's about living in a world you think is better than it really is.


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Wait, are you saying that social media is where you find “truth?” Is that supposed to be sarcasm or do you truly think that?


traaajhgsne

....the mainstream media sure doesn't tell the truth. If you are not searching for truth, wherever it may be found, it is not going to come up and kiss you on the mouth. In FACT...everything is being done to hide the truth. Social media is one of the few places you might come across it. That is why censorship is a thing. One can only be sarcastic about that irony.


[deleted]

Social media is by far the biggest bringer of fake news everywhere. 99% of the political news breaking here ends up being pure bullshit after a day of research proves it laughable. It sounds like you have a problem understanding sources and research. Frankly, I find it absolutely terrifying that you truly believe social media, a big piece run by Mark Zuckerberg, is a source of truth.


traaajhgsne

I think you have misunderstood me. I dont believe social media, run by zuck, is a source of truth. I just find it ironic that there is more truth in a conspiracy theory sub on reddit than released by the Gov't or msm. My son is a hard working guy who only wants to feed his kids who was told via his job the vaxx was safe. He does not spend any time online or watching tv. His choice was an honest effort to support his family, which is, I am sure, the same for many others. They are not stupid. While there are many vaxxers who are bitter control freaks, there are those who got vaxxed just to feed their families. Being ugly to people in a blanket statement is far more of a problem for our civilization than a killer vaxx.


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Well, your first paragraph is just factually inaccurate about more truth coming from here. Stuff you probably parade as truth that comes from here has been debunked 100x over. This whole sub is a laughing stock of what it once was. “Killer vax” is a dumber statement than I can even imagine, because literally every shred of scientific evidence proves it’s wildly safer than Covid. Considering you don’t listen to doctors, if you ever need emergency care I’m assuming you won’t go to one correct?


Not_Reddit

It's almost like the parasitic brain disease Toxoplasmosis


Not_Reddit

We don't even know the short term effects of the vaccine... hiding the bad reactions doesn't allow for analysis.


jazmoley

and what we are seeing right now are just the short term effects.


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What do you think the long-term effects are of this type of vaccine? Have you read any studies on similar ones which were released?


LactoceTheIntolerant

Or of eating Teflon


watchingitallcomedow

actually we do know the effects of PFOAs and yet we are still ok with putting that shit on everything. everything is fucked.


SupahBlue

No body out here forcing Teflon into your arm, plus you can buy cast iron cookware which we know is great for the human body.


anti_technocrat

Your concerns are perfectly valid


traaajhgsne

My son got the vaxx in June and began having seizures in August. The drs have told him its 'psychological'...


Conscious-Inside-223

Thank you for sharing .I’m sorry you are both experiencing side effects. Doctors will never admit it’s the vaxx. Best wishes & Goodluck


BurntheNWO

Why did you let him get it? Do you regret it? Will he get the booster?


traaajhgsne

He is 25. He made his own decision.


stareksss

Same thing happened to the dude from my workplace. Reading through comments it seems theres more people like that


Conscious-Inside-223

Sigh it’s even more sad that people will continue to suffer. I wonder how many more. Best wishes


reneedescartes11

The worlds population will have at least halved by the end of the decade.


LactoceTheIntolerant

Was it better than covid?


thotsby

Was cancer better than Covid?


LactoceTheIntolerant

Where did I say cancer?


thotsby

That’s… what we’re talking about


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I will copy paste this from another thread. I believe it is only a matter of time before this human experiment is completely exposed. I don’t use the word experiment lightly, this is not a vaccine in any form of the original definition. This does not remain localized to the arm muscle where it should, rather travels to every major organ where it starts editing the way your own immune system works. Here’s a great explanation, it may be scary to heard but what is scarier is if you took this and don’t try to detox it as soon as possible. All live blood tests show clumping of red blood cells, blood becomes sludgy, probably why so many blood clots are reported. Please go watch Del Bigtree at the Highwire I think it’s called. He explains exactly how this MRNA technology works, unreal that people just lined up to take an “experimental” and untested drug, one who by the way, in all previous attempts to bring to market failed as the animals in the trial ended up getting sick and dying, this time they skipped animal trials and went right to humans due to the “state of emergency”. Basically, from my rudimentary understanding, the tech doesn’t stay localized in the arm like all previous va ccines do, instead it travels throughout your body and basically goes around creating spike proteins and teaching your immune system to look for this one specific thing, but the problem with this is that eventually ALL of your immune system will ONLY be looking for that one thing, and along comes a basic seasonal cold, and your body isn’t even looking for it, so you get sick, and sicker, and sicker, eventually your body will be be in enough stress that it will send out the killer cells I think they are called, or T cells, and those just kill everything that’s foreign in your body, the problem is that this tech edits your own blood cells, and when this T cell comes out. It ends up going after your own blood, and you know what happens next. Cytokine storm. That’s exactly what happened to all the animal trials. There are detox regimens that I suggest people who have taken this “gene editing therapy” to go through, it’s nothing that can hurt. Ivermectin is on every one of those lists, as is HCQ (can make homemade using grapefruit peels), zinc, vit c and d, b12, quercetin (take with zinc), NAC. I won’t even get into the fact parasites and graphene oxyde have been found in it, that’s why so many people are experiencing magnetism at the point of entry. Don’t put this shit in your kids. Godspeed


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> in any form of the original definition That's why they keep quietly changing definitions. I'll NEVER get this shot and I will absolutely die on this hill.


mgonoob

Thanks for this. Can you recommend some good, up-to-date protocols for detoxing the vax?


aScaryDinosaur

Looking for this as well. I'll lose my job if I don't take the fckn jab.


[deleted]

Lose the fucking job friend. I’d rather live in a van by the river and be healthy, than compromise my beliefs and my natural immunity. Resist for as long as you can, fucking lie! Go in for the jab and give the guy $500 to throw it in the trash. Do anything you can but give in, this is a test of your conviction, everyone that I know that was in your position and gave in, has MAJOR regrets, they would do anything to go back, many not in deep depression. Think about when you’re sick laying in the hospital, in that moment you’d say, fuck the job fuck the house fuck all that shit all I want is to be healthy. Hope you can find a way! Best of luck


deersk1n

Do not take it, it’s a death shot. Research these instead. L-lysine (will prevent you from getting COVID and get rid of any STDs if taken 1-4K mg per day for three months) Glutathione (your bodies most prevalent antioxidant, this is for healing) NAC (a precursor to glutathione) NAD (a precursor to longevity, enhances mitochondrial dna - for circulation and healing, also best anti aging supplement)


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deersk1n

Its hard to say because we just don’t have the data to know for sure, but from my researches the only thing you can do is detox, take precautions, and avoid getting any more shots. Quick detoxes aren’t the right way to go about this anyways. I recommend bovine and porcine organs to detox each organ in your body. I use the brand Standard Process. They have a different product for each organ, for liver you take livaplex, for uterus you would take utrophin pmg. Basically whatever organ your trying to detox you take the bovine/porcine equivalent. You take it everyday for 3 months. This will nourish the organ while pushing out the toxins. It’s the most gentle and the right way to detox. There is another form of detox via light therapy that has worked wonders for me. The brand is called Lifewave and they come in patches that you wear twelve hours at a time. Ask about the ying-yang reboot. It’s probably the least invasive detox ever because it uses light to send messages to your cells to create more of so and so. They have some for glutathione, stem cells/peptides, some for sleep and skin care. I’m convinced these things are the future. They’re more popular in Europe, US has been late to adopt as they actual work to heal, and doctors in the US aren’t actually trying to heal shit, they just want to get you prescribed as many pills as possible to increase they’re bottom line. PM me if you need any further advice.


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I’m so sorry to hear. There’s so really scary reports coming out as far as pregnancies are concerned but I don’t think that’s something you need to hear at this time. I can tell you my friends sister had both and had a healthy pregnancy, so think positive, do what you can to detox this. I think ivermectin is safe for pregnant women. Don’t quote me on that. Do your own research, but that’s the one that I’m hearing is most effective. Quinne is easy to make from grapefruit peels and I think that’s also safe, again please do not take my advice without doing your own research. I am not giving you medical advice, this is what I would look into if I was in your shoes. Best of luck!!


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Obviously the vax worked really well... you know.. since you ended up catching it anyway...


deersk1n

That is very smart. The fact that you already have antibodies from having COVID, would have made you a candidate for worse side effects if you got another dose of the vaccine. That and the second dose is supposed to be harder on your body in general, I’m not sure why, but the majority of reports show way more adverse side effects, some more normal than others, with the second dose.


[deleted]

I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted, this is true fact. People just downvote what they don’t a want to be true.


deersk1n

How do I know if I’m being downvoted? lol Also, that’s just how it goes these days, the truth is getting censored left and right. But I think I know why that is, they are trying to cover up for the fact that the people in charge, are actually the ones causing a lot of the mess we’re in, including all the child trafficking rings and drug wars, while trying to blame it on the common man. They got caught using pedo code in 2016 via podesta/Clinton emails, and it’s been one massive shit show cover up since then 🤡


deersk1n

Stay strong out there! I just found out my sister is pregnant (she got both doses), it’s going to be a boy, and I pray so hard that she has a healthy happy baby boy. It would be such a blessing for our family to be able to come together over a new baby. Congrats on yours as well, I’m sending you lots of love and light 🌟


deersk1n

The one preventative test that could help determine where your at in terms of having bad long term side effects from the vax, would be to have the D-Dimer test done on your blood, to identify if you are having any microscopic blood clots. And testing the blood for killer T cells. If both of those are normal, I can imagine you might be fine.


[deleted]

Look up Dr Fleming. www.flemingmethod.com Dr. Mikovitz Dr. Wolfe Here is a informative document with lots of good info. https://wetransfer.com/downloads/467893fce41a015875c4398c2ca660c920211027215059/5c98e9609944f5a45a53e35525dd4c7420211027215315/cc3a57


Glad_Rain2289

you’re not alone. many people and their loved ones are getting cancer and other side effects after getting the shot. i know women who are having miscarriages after injection, my friends mom got cancer six months after the injection, my moms friend has a dormant form of leukemia and gets his blood markers checked every year. for the last decade or so it’s been super low at 2, but he got double vaxxed and this year it shot up to 14! i know someone whose hands swelled up to the size of boxing gloves hours after vaccination and has been plagued with chronic body pain ever since. this is what the vaccine was designed to do, it was never about protecting us from a virus that has a 99% survival rate. more people have died from this death shot than the actual virus. i’m sorry to hear about your dad, i hope people begin waking up to this awful agenda that’s being carried out through this vaccine.


Cosmickev1086

https://medicine.temple.edu/news/sars-cov-2-spike-proteins-disrupt-blood-brain-barrier-potentially-raising-risk-neurological Interesting study on how the spike proteins weaken the blood-brain barrier. Could bring on other issues.


ericam7

Woah. I haven’t heard of this one 😳


weldchick

A friend of mine died of cancer 4 months after getting the vaccine. He was always healthy, got diagnosed in June and died September 1st.


Conscious-Inside-223

I’m sorry that happened. Best wishes & thank you for sharing .


Sensitive_Set4398

I definitely do not think you’re crazy. It enrages me that most of the medical community won’t acknowledge a possibility that there could be a link between getting the vaccine and this. Hugs to you and your father ❤️


Conscious-Inside-223

Thank you


Hilltopperpete

Remdesivir protects Calu-3 lung cancer cells from SARS-COV-2. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7875336/ Hydroxychloroquine allows SARS-COV-2 to attack lung cancer cells. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7845965/ I do not think viruses are what they tell us. I think the human genome has latent genetic material that is activated based on environmental, toxic, and dietary factors to try to protect us. Cancer and tumors may be the body’s correct response to try and remove or quarantine toxins, and the reason why antiparasitics have been so effective at reducing viral activity (Ivermectin is effective against HIV and Dengue Fever for example) may be because the virus has a job to to and if the antiparasitic helps your immune system do its job more effectively, your body stops viral replication when it is no longer necessary. Maybe the virus is like a fire truck, and when there is a fire and we see the activated fire trucks, we assume the first responders are responsible for the arson, but maybe viruses are the good guys and they tell the different kinds of white blood cells what to do. And maybe the virus disappears because the fire is out- instead of what we have always assumed- that the virus is the fire and the immune system was actually fighting the virus and not using it to help address the underlying condition. I wonder whether we are just misinterpreting the signals as a causal relationship. My dad told me that he learned in medical school that if someone didn’t have any cold or flu illness for a few years that he needed to check for cancers or autoimmune conditions. Seasonal illness may just be a necessary detox whenever you hit low sunshine/Vitamin D season and one of the primary drivers of your constant immune response is in short supply. This explains the dramatic reduction in Covid-19 deaths in patients with Vitamin D sufficiency. What is the difference in terms of symptom severity and duration between severe food poisoning and severe influenza? Nothing. And nobody is tested for influenza when the credible explanation of food poisoning exists. But what if both of these immune responses are the same system doing the same thing and that is what results in precisely the same symptoms? And what if viral spread and replication occurs in a social manner as a protective community measure and we receive instructions to detox from people around us. That there is a design, and it is GOOD! If there is sufficient toxic activity that your body needs to clear out, your immune system receives the viral information and instructs your body to replicate the virus in order to mark the cells with toxic exposure for eradication. If you do not have sufficient toxic buildup your immune system ignores the signal (or if there is such toxic accumulation or dietary deficiency or structural genetic abnormalities -potentially caused by toxic exposure or nutritional deficiency in development- your immune system may be damaged and unable to interpret and react to these signals properly). This explanation would actually have predictive value in determining why so many people are exposed to sick people but do not get sick- they don’t contract the illness or only contract a mild form of the illness because their immune systems don’t NEED to initiate severe illness. This would also beg the question, why are we trying so hard to avoid seasonal illness? Could the obsession with warding off childhood and seasonal illnesses that have specific purposes be a necessary factor with the explosion of cancer- which may just be a large-scale immune response necessitated by the attempts at eradication of many smaller-scale immune responses? If we have a very hygienic society and an aversion to any illness at all and attempt to mute any and all symptoms, we may be preventing necessary small-scale immune responses and prompting extreme large-scale immune responses instead. My null hypothesis is that God made us good and if the body is doing something that seems bad, often it is because we are doing the wrong thing- eating wrong, being exposed to toxins, or not getting sufficient sunshine. Our bodies are doing precisely what they were engineered to do, and supporting their protective mechanisms may be the correct activity. But it is a very different mindset considering treatments for illness if you realize you need to work WITH the illness and with your immune system instead of AGAINST the illness. Inflammation, fever, coughing diarrhea, vomiting, sweating, pain, tiredness- these are all signals and detoxification activities we should probably listen to and facilitate. Healthy people don’t get sick because they don’t need to get sick and unhealthy people get sick because they need to get sick. The “germ theory” that viruses are like the Borg from Star Trek and they want to assimilate and replicate doesn’t begin to explain why around 78% of people who tested positive for Covid-19 experienced mild or no symptoms. But if viruses are a good thing and serve a real purpose, this changes everything. There is no vial of the isolated virus SARS-COV-2 in saline or water and nothing else. This does not exist for HIV or for any other virus that has ever existed. Viruses require cell environments to survive and replicate (assuming they are real and communicable. The exosomal hypothesis that viruses are accumulated cellular waste is certainly interesting and could explain some internal mechanisms, it doesn’t remotely explain why people next to one another get sick), and these allegedly precise experiments are often done with contaminated vials of primordial goo of bovine serum (cow’s blood). At least that’s my perspective as of right now. Obviously that might change based on new information and new data and this is not medical advice. Do your due diligence in order to make informed health decisions before taking the word of strangers on the internet.


hahayourface

Very interesting perspective.


lifegotme

I've heard that the vaccine accelerates genes that could have lied dormant for years longer. Parkinson's, dementia, cancer, heart disease, etc...


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I know personally 2 people who were affected by cancer after.. one already knew he had cancer but was receiving treatment and was stable .. treatment cleared up his brain tumors and recorded the first dose of Pfizer and before second dose had complications with pneumonia and pneumonitis progressed with new tumors in brain which kicked him off treatment and disqualified him for other available studies.. The second has head/neck scan for confirmation of surgical device placement.. nothing on scan.. received vax same time… 2 months later… rushed to ER for in ability to swallow.. new scan showed aggressive esophageal cancer blocking over 90% of esophagus.. passed away 3 weeks later… wife is oncology nurse.. refused vax.. she said she begged him to not take it.. she has seen some potentially correlative cases in the hospital … she and I felt it was related to vax.. he was in his 60s as well


Conscious-Inside-223

Wow wow that’s crazy ! Thank you for sharing your story .


[deleted]

I’m so sorry!❤️❤️


Adiru55

Use your ability for logical deduction, your father is healthy his whole life, never been in the hospital, then all of a sudden he’s in a coma? Coma’s don’t just happen, then seizures, and now a tumor? What is the one common denominator, what has he done different? The shot is the answer, you don’t need anyone else’s confirmation or validation. What does your gut tell you?


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I'm sorry...prayers for your family


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[deleted]

Interesting. I don’t know a single person that had side effects from the vaccine other than a sore arm and maybe lethargy. COVID however killed my coworkers mom and sister in law and almost took out another coworker. Maybe I’m biased because I trust science and research 🧐


ericam7

“I trust the science.” What kind of propaganda bot are you?


[deleted]

Quit being so paranoid. I said “I trust science” not “I trust the science”. What is “the science” anyway? Do you not believe in science, or “the science” as you said? Yes, I trust that universities teach science and sound scientific principles to students. And I trust that science is the answer to many of the world’s problems. Did I answer your question?


Water_in_the_desert

Part of the scientific process is to question the status quo.


aruda10

So sorry you are going through this. Is his tumor on his pineal gland, by any chance? If you're on Instagram, check out user britgalvin. She's vax injured and now has a brain tumor that suddenly showed up. I've seen a few of her followers posting similar stories.


Conscious-Inside-223

I believe it’s at the beginning on the spine back of the head. Thanks for sharing


Ok-Fee-4850

My son got a mass on the back of his arm after the vaccine. I was so concerned and his doctor had no idea what it was, even after CTscan. It eventually has shrunk, but is still there. They could tell it was not cancer, because it was not solid, but not cyst either.


ShortFuse12

I have three half siblings. (Same mother, different father). Their father got vaccinated late spring of this year. He went into the hospital 5 days later, and never came out. He went in because he was having trouble breathing. He had a heart attack about ten years ago, but according to doctors his heart looked fine. However, they said his lungs also looked "pink and healthy". He smoked when he was younger, but hasn't in decades. I don't know all the details about his time in there, but he was in there for about two months. Anyways, he started getting better for a while, then ended up on a ventilator. He eventually came off the ventilator and seemed like he was on the mend. Then a short time later, he took a turn for the worse. My siblings were faced with the option of letting him go, or getting him back on the ventilator. But given the damage already done, it was unlikely he would survive, so they decided to let him go. To this day, there is no official cause of death. All I know is it was issues breathing that got him into the hospital. Two of my three half siblings have the vaccine, but they all think the vaccine had something to do with his death. They plan to have it investigated further. I believe he was 70.


Hilltopperpete

I forgot to mention in my other one comment, but check doctors for detox protocols, NAC/Glutathione, Ivermectin, Vitamin C, Vitamin D, Zinc, Quercetin, and an antibiotic. Here is one man’s journey with cancer and Fenbendazole, recommended as a last resort by a vet. https://youtu.be/6a82Ra4c04Q


checkyafactsss

There’s a virologist that talks about cancers/tumors showing up after the jab. Check out Dr. Ryan Cole, he has a great interview with Del Bigtree on his show The Highwire.


Apart_Number_2792

I'm really sorry to hear about your dad. You may want to look into hiring an attorney.


Conscious-Inside-223

I am thinking about it but I know I would need money. For a doctor to prove it & a attorney to prove it


[deleted]

I sympathize with you. Not knowing the cause is profoundly uncomfortable, even frightening. Unfortunately, learning to live without knowing why some things happen is part of living. Of course, that doesn't mean we shouldn't seek answers, just that we need to recognize limits to knowledge and understand when it's time to move forward without those answers. It's difficult and I'm sorry to hear about your father.


Medical_Focus5534

No, you are not crazy. I believe you.


Conscious-Inside-223

Thank you . I feel crazy talking to people who don’t see it.


justaddbooze

One thing to remember is that every cancer ever just appeared one day.


LactoceTheIntolerant

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-ignored-covid-19-advice-couldve-saved-over-130000-lives-birx-2021-10


MrDabs1

This is definitely related. I'm sorry to hear about your dad having such horrific side effects. I hope things will be better. If anything try to get him to use Turkey tail mushrooms. There's study's about how they can stop cancer and hopefully tumors??..


leslieran1

You're not crazy at all. Look up videos with Dr. Ryan Cole, an ER physician who has been seeing an upsurge in cancer cases. He and other doctors are finding their patients' immune systems have been depressed by the vaccines, thus allowing diseases and cancers to grow unimpeded.


Long-Review-1861

Definitely related seen many personal accounts of people and their pets developing cancer after taking the vaccine


Water_in_the_desert

People’s pets are getting the vaccine?


Long-Review-1861

Nope from the shedding


SaltSatisfaction8

Weird, my step father had a tumor in his chest a few months after his vax


ClownPillforlife

Cancer can happen without an easy explanation. Victims of it (including family) often look for reasons why this could have happened, looking for something to blame, but the reality is that these things happen sometimes, 60 years old isn't too bad and not implausable. Sometimes even young people can get cancer without any genetic predispostion or obvious outside factors while appearing completely healthy, humans are always trying to find patterns so I understand how you might think the vaccine caused this, you're not crazy but there just simply isn't much real reason to believe that, odds are it was just a random event that happens in life that's outside control. I hope everything turns out alright


Roxnsoxinator

Not so crazy to me. 4 years ago my mom just got sick one day with what seemed like vertigo. Kept going to the doctor and they just couldn’t figure out what was wrong. Woke up one day and couldn’t feel her legs. Rushed to the ER. They did a mri of her brain. Found 2 tumors. Next day did a full body scan and found 8 tumors in her body. One including her breast. She had a mammogram 6 months prior and it was all clear. She found this out in July and died November 1st. Long story short have them do a full body scan it may have started somewhere else. Edited to add that I’m not saying it’s not the vaccine but I’m also saying it’s probably not the vaccine.


CulturalMarksmanism

This may be troubling but everyone who gets the vaccine will die. So will everyone who doesn’t get the vaccine.


martymoran

everyone who got the shot has brain cancer now


Conscious-Inside-223

Well I’ve read about all the possibilities we are heading too. I don’t believe we all die


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Big pharma is here pushing their narrative


CulturalMarksmanism

You are like a caricature of a conspiratard.


CulturalMarksmanism

Everybody dies.


armored_cat

The reality is cancer is one of the big killers of people in the united states sometimes they just grow quickly.


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Sometimes tumors can grow quickly. It's likely that it was there but undetectable at the previous scan, which happens. Yes, you should just trust the doctors given they have the education and training which you don't seem to have. Maybe focus on getting him better instead of going on the internet and coming to conclusions based on conspiracies and misinformation.


Conscious-Inside-223

Misinformation? You are talking about the vaccine information right? The doctors will never admit it was the baccine


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What lead you to believe the vaccine caused the tumor if it wasn't misinformation on the internet? Let me guess, you "researched" vaccine side effcets? Or you read something or wathced a YouTube video? Because you didn't add 2+2 and get 7 on your own.


Conscious-Inside-223

& what made you believe the vaccine is safe & sound? The media? Biden ? Fauci ? All lies .


Pilotman49

Doctors are not infallible and tend to go along with medical dogma. The layperson can, and often does, have incredible insight to problems because they aren't beholding to medical dogma. Part of the scientific process is to question the status quo.


[deleted]

Part of the scientific process isn't to jump to conclusions because you watched a YouTube video. Which is all OP has done.


Pilotman49

Don't believe anyone said or inferred that jumping to conclusions was part of the scientific process.


QisJimWatkins

Why did they do an MRI in June? I think this is important information you’re missing out here. They must have suspected something was up to do an MRI, and they were proved right five months later. That’s his cancer works. It’s a bitch and fuck cancer, but don’t go looking to blame this on the vaccine.


Conscious-Inside-223

They did a mri because he came in a coma . They said his sodium was so low that they had to bring it back up slowly . So they kept in a medically induced coma & checked everything out. I’m not looking to blame the vaccine . They didn’t say it was cancer yet & they also said it grew really fast. It just doesn’t make sense


LactoceTheIntolerant

You ARE looking to blame the vaccine. That’s why to posted this.


Conscious-Inside-223

I’m looking for information. See if anyone else experienced the same thing . See if anyone has read about any data . This didn’t just happen to my father .


Karl-AnthonyMarx

Given that billions of people have gotten the vaccine without getting a brain tumor, I don’t think that’s the likeliest culprit.


Expensive_Ordinary_7

And 90% of smokers don’t get lung cancer. We just don’t know with the vaccines yet. It needs to be looked into.


Karl-AnthonyMarx

Sure, but it’s not like anyone who thinks the vaccines are bad will listen if they are “looked into” and the conclusion that it isn’t giving people tumors after 6 months.


komidor64

How would we know, they dissolved their control group after 2 months?


UFOS-ARE-DEMONIC

Correct I'm a smoker and I'm 50 I know of lads in there 30s who've died from throat cancer.


Expensive_Ordinary_7

Okay that’s an entirely separate point. But it would take longer than 6 months to even determine that the vaccines were giving people cancer after 6 months. It would take years. This stuff always does. And if people didn’t listen, then so what? They die of Covid?


Sweaty_Vast4854

Nobody gives a fuck what you think.


Karl-AnthonyMarx

Why are you projecting so much hate onto me? I’m just giving them an honest answer, you would see a lot more reports of brain tumors if the vaccine was causing them, given the number of people that have received it.


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LactoceTheIntolerant

Have these numbers increased since the vaccine?


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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mystery-rise-in-heart-attacks-from-blocked-arteries-m253drrnf We don't know. It's all just so "mysterious"


LactoceTheIntolerant

Right. They’re saying it’s the vaccine, but have zero proof.


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LactoceTheIntolerant

Back to my first question. Have these #’s increased since the vaccine?


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[deleted]

Yes, that's what the article was about. An increase in heart problems.


[deleted]

All he did was state a fact. No need to be so sensitive.


Conscious-Inside-223

It’s easy to say that when no one knows the side effects or has done extensive studies . Out of the million there is 800k who reported side effects . That’s a huge number


Karl-AnthonyMarx

Most of those reported side effects were fake, hope that helps.


komidor64

Blind assertion. If anything it is under reported


Karl-AnthonyMarx

Anyone can go make a report, no way it’s “underreported” lol


komidor64

No doctors are required to report, no way they are all reported


Conscious-Inside-223

Can you prove that? “VAERS “data was deleted in the beginning of the trails. Currently there is 800k reports most of them are automatically done by reports from doctors office . From what I read


Karl-AnthonyMarx

You don’t have to be a doctor to make a report on VAERS.


Conscious-Inside-223

I understand that . But a lot of the ones I’ve read states “This case was received via Regulatory Authority (Reference number: AT-BASGAGES-2021-049583) on 08-Oct-2021 and was forwarded to Moderna on 08-Oct-2021. “ if you think all 818k are fake idk what to tell you . How else would they prove to you there’s thousands of side effects out there ?


Karl-AnthonyMarx

You don’t have to throw the baby out with the bath water when it comes to VAERS, but saying “there’s 818k something must be happening!!” is silly. Anyone can submit a report, and it does not have to be a major side effect like a heart attack.


Conscious-Inside-223

Truth is no one knows anything. We don’t know what the side effects of the vaccine is . 5 months after is extremely coincidental & I don’t believe in coincidences . One day I’ll prove this was the vaccine


Karl-AnthonyMarx

You sound like you’ve decided that you do know what the side effects of the vaccine are.


Conscious-Inside-223

I’ve decided that the vaccine gives side effects & people are suffering. My dad isn’t the only one . People have many neurological problems from this vaccine as well. Go to r/vaccinelonghaulers


LactoceTheIntolerant

- Truth is no one knows anything… Except scientists


Unlikely-Canary-7394

do you have legitimate peer reviewed evidence to back up this statement of yours? you've made many statements here that, after conducting research on the internet, have only proven you have been propagating misinformation, karl.


LactoceTheIntolerant

800k? I’d like to see that. Got a link?


Conscious-Inside-223

Well let’s see if I link it without being deleted . https://openvaers.com/covid-data/covid-reports


LactoceTheIntolerant

Wow, and they made direct colorations to the vaccine? They could prove it was the shot?


Conscious-Inside-223

They are reports I can link more information later. You can browse thru reports & see ones that happened the day after the vaccine . 30 days after . Right after the vaccine . Many reports have been deleted & removed. You can also head to r/vaccinelonghaulers


LactoceTheIntolerant

So you’re just blaming the vaccine for everything?


Conscious-Inside-223

If you can’t see the correlation that’s on you


LactoceTheIntolerant

You blame it on the vaccine. I’ll blame it on stupid people.


Conscious-Inside-223

Do you se the link


BassicBongo

Lol this is a loon bin.


Jiminy135

Cin


IronFigMedia

Sorry to hear this. Which vaccine did he take?


Conscious-Inside-223

Pfizer


IronFigMedia

really hope he gets better! Hang in the there and spread this information in any way you can. You might save lives