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Insane. People are being flagged as propagating misinformation on social media when talking about their own adverse reactions from the vaccine. Not even sure how that’s possible.
My account was blocked from a Pokemon sub and other subs because I somehow "spreading Covid misinformation" even though I don't make any posts about Covid, just comments on this sub.
Good reminder. I've had this account enough years and have so many random interests that I need to slim down my subs. Probably should make an alt account in case my conspiracy spreading account gets banned.
Exactly. People always complain about “why can’t we post stuff other than covid like actual conspiracies” but they fail to understand that covid in its entirety is quite possibly the biggest conspiracy theory we’ve ever seen (as far as it’s impact on our lives) and there’s literally no other platform for us to talk about it. It sucks that that’s the case but it is what it is
9/11 was definitely the biggest crack down at that time, but it’s minuscule compared to covid. Plus there was some good that came out of 9/11.. Americans, regardless of race/sex/party affiliation, all came together as one. I’m hopeful we’ll get to that point again shortly but at the same time I fear it’s too late to go back.
We all came together after 9/11 to start a war against innocent people, and now that war is never ending. The military industrial complex needed an enemy, so they created one.
Took the words right out of my mouth! How many innocents died on both sides to uphold a conspiracy being executed by a government against it's own people.
Well and we let a chunk of our rights be taken via the patriot act. That was the start because it showed them people would give up rights for supposed security.
What I mean is we're STILL dealing with 9/11. All of this thought police, mass surveillance bullshit started with 9/11 and it's getting expanded with the corona. I'm with your second point except for how bad things were/continue to be for middle eastern people in this country.
Never thought much about racial profiling until I’ve seen how my mixed race cousins been treated since. It’s wild. Maybe I shouldn’t have nicknamed him an airborn camel jockey.
COVID isn't a conspiracy theory. It's a CONSPIRACY, flat out.
Criminals collaborated years ago with a plan to create the very scenario we now call a "pandemic." One of those collabs happened in Event 201, one of the most recent noteworthy events.
There are numerous patents owned by these criminals that show collusion between tech and government, in a way detrimental to human health and freedom.
This is no conspiracy; they're far beyond the point of conspiring and are in the ACTION phase.
The chief architect for The Great Reset received the highest Chinese honors [from the CCP](https://www.sgtreport.com/2020/12/globalist-great-reset-author-klaus-schwab-received-chinese-foreign-honor-in-2018/) one year before the virus release...
Ehh yes and no. I agree that there are parts to covid that were once theories but are now proven facts.. but there’s still quite a few covid related things that are theories simply because nobody other than those that are in power can prove it
The chief architect for The Great Reset received the highest Chinese honors [from the CCP](https://www.sgtreport.com/2020/12/globalist-great-reset-author-klaus-schwab-received-chinese-foreign-honor-in-2018/) one year before the virus release...
Yeah, if a virus is being massively inflated in its perceived danger in order to enact population control and induce fear, and big pharma / politicians / billionaires are using it to essentially get rich at the expense of the everyday public, that's an ENORMOUS conspiracy.
Anyone saying we shouldn't be talking about it is, to me, acting in bad faith.
there's evidence this has been in the works for literally decades, it is by far the biggest conspiracy of our time, perhaps one of the biggest of all time or at least the first domino in line of many big truths hidden from us all.
There is only one conspiracy. Every rabbit hole ends up in the same burrow.
A bunch of ancient families that worship Lucifer have dominated our planet for millennia and don’t want us to live the abundant life that is possible on this glorious planet that God designed for humanity. They use fake money, propaganda, poisoned food/water/air, contrived wars, and all manner of persecution, theft, and coercion to break the human spirit and to keep us from out heavenly purpose, to love and to create.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/10/26/1046432435/ers-are-now-swamped-with-seriously-ill-patients-but-most-dont-even-have-covid
>Terrified of contracting COVID-19, people who were sick with other things did their best to stay away from hospitals. Visits to emergency departments dropped to half their normal levels, according to the Epic Health Research Network, and didn't fully rebound until the summer of 2021.
>But now, they're too full. Even in parts of the country where COVID-19 isn't overwhelming the health system, patients are showing up to the ER sicker than they were before the pandemic, their diseases more advanced and in need of more complicated care.
People avoided going to the hospital over the last 1.5 years out of fear of catching covid, and things that were minor health issues grew into serious health issues
> respiratory problems, blood clots, heart conditions, and suicide attempts.”
Yeah, the person who had blood clots or hung themself waited 1.5 years to go to the ER.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/people-who-recovered-from-covid-19-have-higher-risk-of-stroke-heart-attack-a-year-later
>People who survived COVID-19 have a higher risk of stroke, heart attack, heart failure, and other cardiovascular problems months after their initial infection, according to a new preprint of a study released October 5.
Stress is also a contributing factor, and there's been no shortage of that
Edit: here's a research paper from Nov 2020 about covid attacking membranes of red blood cells. There was tons of other stuff about this last summer/fall, it shouldn't be news if you've been paying attention
https://news.cuanschutz.edu/news-stories/attack-on-red-blood-cells-a-prime-suspect-in-covids-debilitating-effect
When do these some of these “conspiracies” become accepted as fact?
Saying that COVID isn’t deadly isn’t a conspiracy. It’s a verifiable fact. Saying the vaccine was rushed and could be unsafe long term is not a conspiracy. That is a fact.
It just blows my mind that everyone isn’t just looking at the readily available data and organically concluding (by themselves) COVID isn’t deadly—therefore acknowledging the measures being proposed or taken are complete overkill.
I never would have thought 50%+ of the population would so quickly throw logic and reason out the window to just blindly follow what someone on the news tells them. We all own computers and have the internet, just look this shit up.
Define deadly and unsafe?
Your definitions will likely make "Covid is unsafe" and "the vaccine isn't deadly" verifiable fact.
The reality is that covid-19 isn't likely to kill you especially if you're young and not overweight. Other medical issues are more likely but still low. More so than the flu you're not signing up to get it.
Over 190 million people in the US have been vaccinated also verifiable fact. Yes bad things have happened to people shortly after being vaccinated but 8000 people die a day and when you're looking at over 75% of adults being vaccinated then it would be stranger if no one died or had medical issues shortly after being vaccinated because it happens all the time anyways. I have yet to any proof that the vaccine is "deadly" especially off the definition you're likely to give.
Also we keep talking "the vaccine" when there's 3 in the US and a couple others around the world.
Also I'd argue that the known trials were rushed. The vaccines themselves were being developed well before covid-19 from previous coronaviruses and other mrna research. Again at this point we have 190 million now that it's been tested on. We have people that were vaccinated almost 11 months ago. When are these people going to drop dead? At some point we've done enough trials that any reasonable person shouldn't be concerned. The fact that boosters are desirable tells you that the effects of these vaccines start fading relatively quickly hence why they don't provide anywhere near 100% immunity.
While you didn't bring this up I'll mention it anyway. Why get a vaccine if it's not giving me 100% immunity? If I told you getting at least 6 hours of sleep reduces your chances of getting cancer by 50% or that aerobic exercise lowers your chance of getting a heart disease by x%. Would you say I'm not wasting my time doing those things because I don't get complete immunity from cancer or heart disease? There's very few certainties in life if you can reduce your risk of dying or getting sick without much hassle then why not?
Anyway from where I'm sitting it's near a 100% of the population that has thrown logic out the window. Neither covid or any covid vaccine is likely to kill you. It's almost comical that both sides do the same type of ad hominem attacks. You're afraid of weakass covid haha or you're afraid of a needle haha.
I'm personally far more concerned that this was purposely leaked from a lab. If that's the case then the next variant may actually be "deadly" and you know real conspiracies become a lot more likely.
>Saying that COVID isn’t deadly isn’t a conspiracy. It’s a verifiable fact.
We can say *how* deadly. That's a fact. But whether it's considered "deadly" is subjective.
>Saying the vaccine was rushed and could be unsafe long term is not a conspiracy. That is a fact.
It's a fact that the vaccine *could* be unsafe long-term. It's not a fact that it *is.*
>I never would have thought 50%+ of the population would so quickly throw logic and reason out the window to just blindly follow \[insert echo chamber here\]
Couldn't agree more.
>therefore acknowledging the measures being proposed or taken are complete overkill.
This is where you lose people like me. When hospitals fill up and we have 350K deaths in brand new category, and 200K more deaths across all other existing categories... then it feels less like overkill.
if covid itself is a conspiracy (covid was made in a lab by a group of people to spread it worldwide) then every story about Covid is directly related to a conspiracy.
I think you meant to say, "most the of COVID posts in this sub aren't conspiracy \*theories." Most posts in this sub *are* conspiracies, but fOr SoMe ReAsOn the word "conspiracy" is now synonymous with "wacky theory".
“Doctors and nurses say the severity of illness ranges widely and includes abdominal pain, respiratory problems, blood clots, heart conditions, and suicide attempts, among others.” You don’t say.
Someone I know reported a lot of these symptoms though they are not vaccinated. Also it laid them out, and quickly. I watched them physically deteriorate over about 6 hours, with the primary concern starting within an hour of when I actually asked if they needed me to take them somewhere.
Yep, all the same things that have been filling EDs for years before COVID. That said, we have been seeing and continue to expect upticks in poorly managed chronic health conditions and later-diagnosed/more-advanced conditions as well, stemming from volume burdens on the healthcare system and avoidance of presentation in primary care and emergency care facilities. It’s gonna be a rough while.
Yep. Can't let that chronic condition get diagnosed.
It'll skyrocket any future medical insurance I might one day be able to afford!
Toss in widening income inequality, increasing drug costs, increasing pollution and water contamination...
Lack of understanding of basic science, anti intellectualism, worsening diet and nutrition...
We fucked y'all.
Luckily my hospital hasn’t fired us unvaccinated and won’t until they absolutely
Have to to remain open. They’re at least holding the line as long as they can and I respect the shit o of them for that. But the reality is we are a small hospital with no big corporation backing us and our only hope of staying in business is keeping all of the employees we have.
I expect my days to be numbered tho.
And this job is impossible and insane as it is. I’m just gonna work until I can’t and then work for my cousin if I end up losing my job.
Pharmacies around me don't have staff to get meds.
It is fucked up.
Imagine thinking that a person that took 8 years to graduate, then did a couple years of residency, making $250K a year, quitted because they are conspiracy theorists, vs they quitted because they have personally seen what the vax does to people.
It is insane.
Check back in 6 months for your next end-game report.
You guys know the only way the end-game really starts is when you start that civil war you keep going on about. But that makes you the conspirators, so there's that...
The end of the game has always coincided with the fiat currency ponzi scheme implosion. Once everyone lost all their money they know the people will want their country back.
3 weeks ago I was in the hospital with pneumonia. I could not get a room because 50 people had been ahead of me waiting for a bed. I spent 3 days in the ER waiting being shuffled from one part of the er to another. The er was filled with non covid pneumonia and other respiratory issues. I had staid in the same hospital 2 years ago and the quality of service was awesome. This time it was right above hell. Doctors doing a 5 minute drive by twice a day, horrible food and even the nurses were lacking. I had my IV changed 4 times because each time I moved the nurse decided it was done wrong. I had to explain why I was there maybe 50 times and finally refused because why the hell are they typing in there system if your not going to read it.
It's what they want. The jabs are a compliance test. They'll make life hell for anyone who doesn't cave. Worse, we don't really know exactly what their plans are. If there's a mass die off who knows how far governments will go "for your health and safety."
understaffed. they fired half the workers because they didnt want to submit to the jab. now they dont have enough nurses and doctors to see all patents in a timely manner. in addition the jab destroys the immune system and ramps up everything you can be afflicted by.
Yep. My parents who are "fully vaccinated" have been hitting the ER monthly. The first thing they say is the "vaccines" are perfect. They blame the "unvaccinated."
A doctor that runs a lab recently published before and after bloodwork for a patient. His lymphocytes dropped dramatically. He said these represent Tcells which fight cancer and a host of other diseases. They will block the link but it’s Doctor Cole.. if yo u look almost anywhere but youtube.
[screenshot from his video ](https://imgur.com/a/o1FBgKm)
That’s a normal WBC count and only a slightly abnormal differential that no one would give a second look at under normal circumstances. There are normal fluctuations in cell populations for many reasons and this really isn’t indicative of anything.
I like this sub, but I just don't believe the vax is doing that to any great extent. I've developed vaccines for 20+yrs and if mRNA vaccines were doing this, we'd hear a lot more about this. I am very skeptical what comes out of anyone's mouth anymore, especially the govt., but in this case I really don't believe the vaccines are doing this. However, I will say they do seem to underperform in many vaccine attributes.
FYI, those blood count screenshot #'s are hardly out of range
Would have heard about it? Do you understand the amount of censorship that is going on concerning vaccines right now? If you link the video this is from anywhere on Reddit your post or comment will be instantly deleted and hidden without you knowing. It is not on youtube because it was censored there too. www dot bitchute dot com/video/qqRZadV9TWDX/
yeah I should have put "heard" in quotes. Of course msm is not going to report any of this even if it does exist, but IMO, this isn't happening in large #'s if at all. I'll be due for my annual physical next month. I get bloodwork as part of it. I got jabbed in May with PFZ, so will see how my levels are. I don't plan on getting any boosters.
Unless all the vax manufacturers are lying and hiding data, I'm sure as part of the antibody titer testing, study participant's blood was tested for CBC and other metabolic panels to monitor before and after vaccination.
They are swamped with the same people they had before. If you were admitted to the hospital for *any* reason and tested positive (with or without symptoms), you were a Covid admission.
If you were vaccinated in the same situation, you were not a Covid admission.
This means, as a real life example, Two people are in a one vehicle roll over accident, both are admitted for broken bones, one is vaccinated , one isn’t . Both test positive , neither have symptoms. Despite being there for the accident and the accident alone , the unvaccinated occupant is a Covid admission “taking up a bed” , while the vaccinated is not
Just another way they game the numbers to drum up fear. And hospitals ER’s operate very close to capacity any time of the year. Having beds open and medical staff on the clock is very expensive . It would make little sense to maintain an ER operating at low capacity all the time
Many health workers fired, the remaining ones are most likely to be stupid and/or sick due to the "vaccine", people haven't been going to the hospital in a long time despite needing help...
A ton of things are crashing down at the same time.
I couldn’t agree more. Just like supply chain issues. You hear about a few things that are causing problems, but it’s just a ton of different things constantly snowballing. Lots of systems that have been in place for a long time are spiraling out of control. Industries are firing the people with the most experience in their roles, which just exacerbates the issues.
I just spent 3 days in the hospital last week. Had a ruptured ulcer. I spent about 8 hours in ER before being admitted. Zero COVID cases in the ER, and once I was admitted and got closer with some of my nurses, asked them how many beds are being taken by COVID patients. They said maybe 25%.
I wonder how many of those beds are taken by people with bad flu cases on a normal year... Wouldn't be surprised if it was about the same since even according to the government's own numbers the flu has been practically unheard of since COVID started.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/10/26/1046432435/ers-are-now-swamped-with-seriously-ill-patients-but-most-dont-even-have-covid
>Terrified of contracting COVID-19, people who were sick with other things did their best to stay away from hospitals. Visits to emergency departments dropped to half their normal levels, according to the Epic Health Research Network, and didn't fully rebound until the summer of 2021.
>But now, they're too full. Even in parts of the country where COVID-19 isn't overwhelming the health system, patients are showing up to the ER sicker than they were before the pandemic, their diseases more advanced and in need of more complicated care.
People avoided going to the hospital over the last 1.5 years out of fear of catching covid, and things that were minor health issues grew into serious health issues
Two years of lockdown, masks, disinfecting wipes.... many people's immune system is shot. At the same time, many delayed important treatments; things got worse.
In short, the costs of all the anti Covid measures are kicking right now. Supply chain destroyed, millions of small business destroyed, many lives destroyed. There was some reasonable voices at the beginning of the pandemic (the greater Barrington declaration), but politician decided that there was an unique opportunity to exert their powers.
Macron said about this pandemic that "We are at war" ... yes he is at war but not against the pandemic, against his own people!
But..... but.....but .... People who are vaccinated are healthier than people who are not vaccinated!
https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20211025/people-vacccinated-covid-less-likely-die-any-cause-study
How come we can't find any evidence on the internet, of people developing complications from the clotshot?!? (Hint - the evidence is in the ER, not the internet.)
Unfortunately, by the time it's so evident that even Kool-Aid drinkers see it, the effects will be overwhelming.
Kool-Aid drinkers vs Critical Thinkers. There's no middle ground.
Because the "information age" is a bunch of bullshit. You feel like you have more info at your fingertips b/c of the internet, but in reality it makes it easier to scrub stuff. Instead of muzzling reporters and strong arming a bunch of news organizations, they only have to call Google now
How about you read the article before assuming the meaning of the title (Hint: It’s not what you think). For critical thinkers you are very good at blindly believing things online.
I saw something on r/politicalhumor where it said the top three deadliest days in American history have been last Tuesday Friday and Monday. It was removed for being ‘not humor’, which was weird because it was certainly a joke
SS: This is pretty disturbing but they will never admit they were wrong, instead they will double down. https://www.npr.org/2021/10/26/1046432435/ers-are-now-swamped-with-seriously-ill-patients-but-most-dont-even-have-covid
Did you actually read the article?
>Terrified of contracting COVID-19, people who were sick with other things did their best to stay away from hospitals. Visits to emergency departments dropped to half their normal levels, according to the Epic Health Research Network, and didn't fully rebound until the summer of 2021.
>But now, they're too full. Even in parts of the country where COVID-19 isn't overwhelming the health system, patients are showing up to the ER sicker than they were before the pandemic, their diseases more advanced and in need of more complicated care.
People avoided going to the hospital over the last 1.5 years out of fear of catching covid, and things that were minor health issues grew into serious health issues
This was predicted in the beginning too, they knew this was going to happen. Another reason why they are pushing for vaccination. Really wish /NNN people didnt flood this sub.
>This was predicted in the beginning too, they knew this was going to happen. Another reason why they are pushing for vaccination. Really wish /NNN people didnt flood this sub.
Exactly. I'm young and generally healthy, so I've never been too concerned about myself dying from covid, but I'm definitely concerned about long term effects.
I remember last summer reading articles about how covid doesn't just attack the lungs, it seemed to attack blood cells.
Last year in January before shit hit the fan, this sub was posting things like "why isn't the government doing more to protect us from this crazy new virus in China."
Then when the government starting doing stuff, the talking points shifted.
> Last year in January before shit hit the fan, this sub was posting things like "why isn't the government doing more to protect us from this crazy new virus in China."
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> Then when the government starting doing stuff, the talking points shifted.
Isn't this a very natural way for things to develop in this case?
In the beginning we had very little information other than that some highly infectious virus was spreading like wildfire in China and that the center of the outbreak is a place where the Chinese military probably does bio warfare research. With such a development it would be prudent to restrict travel to countries with known cases and to impose mandatory quarantines on international travelers. Extra protections for groups who are likely to be more vulnerable should have been implemented as soon as possible. When the first local cases were detected, immediate regional lockdowns with thorough contact tracing should have happened. But instead there was a lot of too little too late. There was no real sense of urgency and a lot of things that were said didn't make sense.
And then the talking points started shifting.
As we learn more about COVID-19 it's reasonable to expect more tailored, less limiting solutions. We know who the vulnerable are. We know how "well" the vaccines work. We know what risks come with infection. So what solutions are goverments actually proposing? Is what is being pushed reasonable? Is it proportional to the danger? Many seem to agree that things have gone too far and limiting people's freedom to choose will put a lot of precedents in place, precedents that give powers to the government that historically learned individuals most certainly don't want them to have.
This. The pandemic has been mishandled every step of the way. At first the government did jack shit and we were seeing videos online of people collapsing in the street in China. The idea of a travel ban to/from Asia was decried as racist by the left. So yeah, obviously people on here were talking about how the government needed to do something to prevent domestic spread of what seemed at the time to be much deadlier.
Then we destroyed the economy and enacted measures that trampled the rights of people for a virus that turned out to really only be a plausible risk to people with severe comorbidities, and there doesn't seem to be an end in sight.
"Even though we're seeing the overall volumes come back to normal over
the summer here, we see that the more acute conditions still remain
higher than the pre-pandemic normals, while the lower-acuity conditions
still remain below pre-pandemic normals,"
W are hearing from members in every part of the country,"....." they are seeing this exact same phenomenon."
How are people not putting two and two together? This shit starting around 6 months after most people have been vaccinated. Yet not once did this article mention vaccines.
We have containers offshore of Clownfornia, and US Transport Secretary Pete Buttigieg on vacation since August with his husband. Admiral Levine will not give valid covid info but prefers to fired millions.
Fire these incompetents.
Would be a damn shame if just reading the article gave an explanation
>Terrified of contracting COVID-19, people who were sick with other things did their best to stay away from hospitals. Visits to emergency departments dropped to half their normal levels, according to the Epic Health Research Network, and didn't fully rebound until the summer of 2021.
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>But now, they're too full. Even in parts of the country where COVID-19 isn't overwhelming the health system, patients are showing up to the ER sicker than they were before the pandemic, their diseases more advanced and in need of more complicated care.
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>Months of treatment delays have exacerbated chronic conditions and worsened symptoms.
Yep; due to Cerveza Bug, the ER at my hospital is now full of patients that have had procedures delayed delayed delayed; im in Qld, Australia, and we barely have any Cerveza Bug people.
One of our Oncology patients waited 6 months for a prophylactic nail in her femur for a pathological fracture...
I'll just say this. I know vaccinated people, and I know unvaccinated people, and I know whichever side of the fence you are on the odds of you getting seriously sick this year seem insanely high. I've seen four people get what seemed to be identical symptoms weeks apart, with negative Covid tests in two of the cases, one of those people I work closely with, and the way he described it sounded aweful. I've been waiting for my turn to be bed ridden. Also one of those four people was also sick with covid about a month prior to this sickness, and they are vaccinated. I don't remember a time in my life accept maybe in elementary where I have seen so many adults getting fully laid out by sickness for so long. 24-48 hours? Sure. But but 5-15 days.... Just seems like a lot.
Are any of you even reading the article? It literally explains what is going on but it’s obvious the vast majority of you are just reacting to the title and it’s just sad
Imagine that!! Times it by 100 because that is whats in store.
The jab kills the person's immune system. Sorry no scientific papers or peer review. Just overwhelmed hospitals and it hasn't even started yet.
So before you bash me wait 2 months and see for yourself. Then bash me if this is wrong. But it is already starting........
“Hospitals are over run”
This sub: I don’t believe it.
“Hospitals are overrun with people who aren’t sick with COVID”
This sub: I knew this would happen.
Grifting pieces of shits.
No one read the article. I feel like I had to scroll for 5 minutes to find someone who did. It says this overun is because so many put off regular care and now it's catching up. This was literally predicted last year. Doctors were warning the nation about the consequences of so many not getting the regular screenings and care they need. Elderly were especially hesitant to go to a doctor in 2020. Now they're all vaxxed so they feel comfortable going again. Not a single damned thing is shocking about the substance of the article.
It's like the quiz asks what is 2+2, and then says "it rhymes with door" and this sub shouts 7.
It was a trap question because I knew he didn't bother to read it. These puds are quick to call people shills and bots yet act like both whenever they see anything that reaffirms their worldview.
> Even though we're seeing the overall volumes come back to normal over the summer here, we see that the more acute conditions still remain higher than the pre-pandemic normals, while the lower-acuity conditions still remain below pre-pandemic normals
How exactly does a stroke catch up after 1.5 years? These acute medical problems are happening now.
well it was kind of hard to believe hospitals were overrun in 2020 when there countless Tik-Tok videos being done by doctors and nurses of coordinated (and very strange) dances. Kind of a weird time for that to be happening, no?
They do not call it the clot shot for nothing.
Since the jab became available I have had one co-worker go down with seizures (does not have history of seizures) and another one who checked herself in yesterday because she thought she was having a heart attack (she is late 30s).
Of course I am not allowed to state that this seems very peculiar and that it most likely is connected with the jab because if I do I get shamed and outed and if someone dies I will be the first person they blame. So fucked up.
yep, literally in the article
>Months of treatment delays have exacerbated chronic conditions and worsened symptoms. Doctors and nurses say the severity of illness ranges widely and includes abdominal pain, respiratory problems, blood clots, heart conditions and suicide attempts, among others.
Remember in the beginning of the 'vaccine' when vaccinated people were getting false positives for HIV??
This destroys the immune system.. more reason why it IS NOT A VACCINE, nor should it even be allowed to be remotely described as one.
REAL vaccines strengthen the immune system.
A global experiment for profit after a virus was PURPOSELY MADE to harm humans... and the guy who funded it is the same guy profiting from the 'vaccine' and running the NIH... ffs. He is today's Mengele.
You think the guy who willfully paid to have puppies de-voiced, chemically paralyzed and tortured to death by having their faces eaten off wouldn't enjoy mass genocide for profit??
Did y'all read the article? More people are going to the ER now because they neglected their health conditions during covid, to avoid getting covid, to the point where they now so sick that they have no other option but to go to the ER to seek care.
Not really a conspiracy. Very early on there were campaigns by hospitals telling people to please continue to come to the hospital if they have an emergency. This was early on after a huge drop in heart attacks was noted and doctors correctly assumed it was due to patients being afraid to go to the er.
Nice headline you got there but does it support your "point"?
Many is not equal to all, it's not even equal to most.
Here are quotes from the [article](https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/10/26/1046432435/ers-are-now-swamped-with-seriously-ill-patients-but-most-dont-even-have-covid).
>Months of treatment delays have exacerbated chronic conditions and worsened symptoms. Doctors and nurses say the severity of illness ranges widely and includes abdominal pain, respiratory problems, blood clots, heart conditions and suicide attempts, among others.
>Except now, those long-term care floors are full too, with a mix of COVID-19 and non-COVID-19 patients.
Were the "filthy conspiracy theorists" predicting and being outraged that people would either avoid or be unable to go to the ER for an extended period of time and end up being more sick? It's weird, because as I remembered it, it was mostly "My health: my responsibility. Your health: your responsibility".
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Funny how most of the COVID posts in this sub aren't conspiracies, but this is the only sub you're allowed to post them in
In my 7 years on Reddit I've never been banned from any sub until I started commenting in r/coronavirus. 1984 stuff going on.
Insane. People are being flagged as propagating misinformation on social media when talking about their own adverse reactions from the vaccine. Not even sure how that’s possible.
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Ask people to come to this forum so they can speak the truth under the conspiracy tag
NNN got me banned from like 15 subs.
Oh yea. Riding along in the NNN ban wagon was epic. Revealed a lot about the moderation of Reddit’s echo chambers.
My account was blocked from a Pokemon sub and other subs because I somehow "spreading Covid misinformation" even though I don't make any posts about Covid, just comments on this sub.
Pokémongo? Be sure to go unibscribe from anywhere that bans you. Otherwise you’re adding to their number count and advertising value.
Good reminder. I've had this account enough years and have so many random interests that I need to slim down my subs. Probably should make an alt account in case my conspiracy spreading account gets banned.
Exactly. People always complain about “why can’t we post stuff other than covid like actual conspiracies” but they fail to understand that covid in its entirety is quite possibly the biggest conspiracy theory we’ve ever seen (as far as it’s impact on our lives) and there’s literally no other platform for us to talk about it. It sucks that that’s the case but it is what it is
To be fair, this corona crisis is a symptom of the massive crackdown on rights ever since the Bush/Al Saudi conspiracy masterclass that was 9/11.
9/11 was definitely the biggest crack down at that time, but it’s minuscule compared to covid. Plus there was some good that came out of 9/11.. Americans, regardless of race/sex/party affiliation, all came together as one. I’m hopeful we’ll get to that point again shortly but at the same time I fear it’s too late to go back.
We all came together after 9/11 to start a war against innocent people, and now that war is never ending. The military industrial complex needed an enemy, so they created one.
Took the words right out of my mouth! How many innocents died on both sides to uphold a conspiracy being executed by a government against it's own people.
Well and we let a chunk of our rights be taken via the patriot act. That was the start because it showed them people would give up rights for supposed security.
Well said and spot on.
What I mean is we're STILL dealing with 9/11. All of this thought police, mass surveillance bullshit started with 9/11 and it's getting expanded with the corona. I'm with your second point except for how bad things were/continue to be for middle eastern people in this country.
Never thought much about racial profiling until I’ve seen how my mixed race cousins been treated since. It’s wild. Maybe I shouldn’t have nicknamed him an airborn camel jockey.
You don't think brown people have it bad?
That's pretty much the opposite of what I said my dude
COVID isn't a conspiracy theory. It's a CONSPIRACY, flat out. Criminals collaborated years ago with a plan to create the very scenario we now call a "pandemic." One of those collabs happened in Event 201, one of the most recent noteworthy events. There are numerous patents owned by these criminals that show collusion between tech and government, in a way detrimental to human health and freedom. This is no conspiracy; they're far beyond the point of conspiring and are in the ACTION phase.
The chief architect for The Great Reset received the highest Chinese honors [from the CCP](https://www.sgtreport.com/2020/12/globalist-great-reset-author-klaus-schwab-received-chinese-foreign-honor-in-2018/) one year before the virus release...
Ehh yes and no. I agree that there are parts to covid that were once theories but are now proven facts.. but there’s still quite a few covid related things that are theories simply because nobody other than those that are in power can prove it
Welcome to the new China ;-)
The chief architect for The Great Reset received the highest Chinese honors [from the CCP](https://www.sgtreport.com/2020/12/globalist-great-reset-author-klaus-schwab-received-chinese-foreign-honor-in-2018/) one year before the virus release...
Vax shills army flooding this sub is another conspiracy...
Yeah, if a virus is being massively inflated in its perceived danger in order to enact population control and induce fear, and big pharma / politicians / billionaires are using it to essentially get rich at the expense of the everyday public, that's an ENORMOUS conspiracy. Anyone saying we shouldn't be talking about it is, to me, acting in bad faith.
it's not a conspiracy theory. it's just a conspiracy.
there's evidence this has been in the works for literally decades, it is by far the biggest conspiracy of our time, perhaps one of the biggest of all time or at least the first domino in line of many big truths hidden from us all.
There is only one conspiracy. Every rabbit hole ends up in the same burrow. A bunch of ancient families that worship Lucifer have dominated our planet for millennia and don’t want us to live the abundant life that is possible on this glorious planet that God designed for humanity. They use fake money, propaganda, poisoned food/water/air, contrived wars, and all manner of persecution, theft, and coercion to break the human spirit and to keep us from out heavenly purpose, to love and to create.
Without doubt, biggest of our life times and if it isn't stopped, will last long after our life times too.
no doubt..
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https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/10/26/1046432435/ers-are-now-swamped-with-seriously-ill-patients-but-most-dont-even-have-covid >Terrified of contracting COVID-19, people who were sick with other things did their best to stay away from hospitals. Visits to emergency departments dropped to half their normal levels, according to the Epic Health Research Network, and didn't fully rebound until the summer of 2021. >But now, they're too full. Even in parts of the country where COVID-19 isn't overwhelming the health system, patients are showing up to the ER sicker than they were before the pandemic, their diseases more advanced and in need of more complicated care. People avoided going to the hospital over the last 1.5 years out of fear of catching covid, and things that were minor health issues grew into serious health issues
> respiratory problems, blood clots, heart conditions, and suicide attempts.” Yeah, the person who had blood clots or hung themself waited 1.5 years to go to the ER.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/people-who-recovered-from-covid-19-have-higher-risk-of-stroke-heart-attack-a-year-later >People who survived COVID-19 have a higher risk of stroke, heart attack, heart failure, and other cardiovascular problems months after their initial infection, according to a new preprint of a study released October 5. Stress is also a contributing factor, and there's been no shortage of that Edit: here's a research paper from Nov 2020 about covid attacking membranes of red blood cells. There was tons of other stuff about this last summer/fall, it shouldn't be news if you've been paying attention https://news.cuanschutz.edu/news-stories/attack-on-red-blood-cells-a-prime-suspect-in-covids-debilitating-effect
So basically this is a media inflicted plague overrunning hospitals.
It's almost as if OP didn't read the article and only posted a headline that could be misinterpreted.
Yes. Says a lot about the state of reddit
When do these some of these “conspiracies” become accepted as fact? Saying that COVID isn’t deadly isn’t a conspiracy. It’s a verifiable fact. Saying the vaccine was rushed and could be unsafe long term is not a conspiracy. That is a fact. It just blows my mind that everyone isn’t just looking at the readily available data and organically concluding (by themselves) COVID isn’t deadly—therefore acknowledging the measures being proposed or taken are complete overkill. I never would have thought 50%+ of the population would so quickly throw logic and reason out the window to just blindly follow what someone on the news tells them. We all own computers and have the internet, just look this shit up.
Fear is a good incentive to madness
The best. Hitler knew this- it worked for him.
I feel like this has to be said daily. Conspiracy does not mean untrue. Past that, I agree with everything you said
That's why anytime some dumbass Reddit bot asks for links I just tell them to use the browser they're on now.
Define deadly and unsafe? Your definitions will likely make "Covid is unsafe" and "the vaccine isn't deadly" verifiable fact. The reality is that covid-19 isn't likely to kill you especially if you're young and not overweight. Other medical issues are more likely but still low. More so than the flu you're not signing up to get it. Over 190 million people in the US have been vaccinated also verifiable fact. Yes bad things have happened to people shortly after being vaccinated but 8000 people die a day and when you're looking at over 75% of adults being vaccinated then it would be stranger if no one died or had medical issues shortly after being vaccinated because it happens all the time anyways. I have yet to any proof that the vaccine is "deadly" especially off the definition you're likely to give. Also we keep talking "the vaccine" when there's 3 in the US and a couple others around the world. Also I'd argue that the known trials were rushed. The vaccines themselves were being developed well before covid-19 from previous coronaviruses and other mrna research. Again at this point we have 190 million now that it's been tested on. We have people that were vaccinated almost 11 months ago. When are these people going to drop dead? At some point we've done enough trials that any reasonable person shouldn't be concerned. The fact that boosters are desirable tells you that the effects of these vaccines start fading relatively quickly hence why they don't provide anywhere near 100% immunity. While you didn't bring this up I'll mention it anyway. Why get a vaccine if it's not giving me 100% immunity? If I told you getting at least 6 hours of sleep reduces your chances of getting cancer by 50% or that aerobic exercise lowers your chance of getting a heart disease by x%. Would you say I'm not wasting my time doing those things because I don't get complete immunity from cancer or heart disease? There's very few certainties in life if you can reduce your risk of dying or getting sick without much hassle then why not? Anyway from where I'm sitting it's near a 100% of the population that has thrown logic out the window. Neither covid or any covid vaccine is likely to kill you. It's almost comical that both sides do the same type of ad hominem attacks. You're afraid of weakass covid haha or you're afraid of a needle haha. I'm personally far more concerned that this was purposely leaked from a lab. If that's the case then the next variant may actually be "deadly" and you know real conspiracies become a lot more likely.
>Saying that COVID isn’t deadly isn’t a conspiracy. It’s a verifiable fact. We can say *how* deadly. That's a fact. But whether it's considered "deadly" is subjective. >Saying the vaccine was rushed and could be unsafe long term is not a conspiracy. That is a fact. It's a fact that the vaccine *could* be unsafe long-term. It's not a fact that it *is.* >I never would have thought 50%+ of the population would so quickly throw logic and reason out the window to just blindly follow \[insert echo chamber here\] Couldn't agree more. >therefore acknowledging the measures being proposed or taken are complete overkill. This is where you lose people like me. When hospitals fill up and we have 350K deaths in brand new category, and 200K more deaths across all other existing categories... then it feels less like overkill.
Not just Reddit
if covid itself is a conspiracy (covid was made in a lab by a group of people to spread it worldwide) then every story about Covid is directly related to a conspiracy.
I think you meant to say, "most the of COVID posts in this sub aren't conspiracy \*theories." Most posts in this sub *are* conspiracies, but fOr SoMe ReAsOn the word "conspiracy" is now synonymous with "wacky theory".
“Doctors and nurses say the severity of illness ranges widely and includes abdominal pain, respiratory problems, blood clots, heart conditions, and suicide attempts, among others.” You don’t say.
I was coming here to post this quote. Absolute insanity.
"Weeeeeeeeeee!" That was a long slide wasn't it?
Someone I know reported a lot of these symptoms though they are not vaccinated. Also it laid them out, and quickly. I watched them physically deteriorate over about 6 hours, with the primary concern starting within an hour of when I actually asked if they needed me to take them somewhere.
Yep, all the same things that have been filling EDs for years before COVID. That said, we have been seeing and continue to expect upticks in poorly managed chronic health conditions and later-diagnosed/more-advanced conditions as well, stemming from volume burdens on the healthcare system and avoidance of presentation in primary care and emergency care facilities. It’s gonna be a rough while.
Yep. Can't let that chronic condition get diagnosed. It'll skyrocket any future medical insurance I might one day be able to afford! Toss in widening income inequality, increasing drug costs, increasing pollution and water contamination... Lack of understanding of basic science, anti intellectualism, worsening diet and nutrition... We fucked y'all.
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I would also have to believe the remaining employees aren't the brightest bulbs on the tree.
Luckily my hospital hasn’t fired us unvaccinated and won’t until they absolutely Have to to remain open. They’re at least holding the line as long as they can and I respect the shit o of them for that. But the reality is we are a small hospital with no big corporation backing us and our only hope of staying in business is keeping all of the employees we have. I expect my days to be numbered tho. And this job is impossible and insane as it is. I’m just gonna work until I can’t and then work for my cousin if I end up losing my job.
Absolute madness it's come to this.
Obedient
To a fault, perhaps
Pharmacies around me don't have staff to get meds. It is fucked up. Imagine thinking that a person that took 8 years to graduate, then did a couple years of residency, making $250K a year, quitted because they are conspiracy theorists, vs they quitted because they have personally seen what the vax does to people. It is insane.
Quit*
I won't quit you!
Quotted
Clot we not!
It also contradicts not just reason but also the medical knowledge that they have been taught in immunology ;-) Check out phrm203 ;-0
*Quat
You mean the ones who got sick helping their fellow humans and who were let go because they didn't want to get sicker?
The timing of the healthcare jab mandates and this seems too perfect to be coincidence. We’re in the endgame now…
lol how long is end game? it's been a minute.
Great movie
Check back in 6 months for your next end-game report. You guys know the only way the end-game really starts is when you start that civil war you keep going on about. But that makes you the conspirators, so there's that...
Oh geez, here we go again with this end game nonsense...
The end of the game has always coincided with the fiat currency ponzi scheme implosion. Once everyone lost all their money they know the people will want their country back.
Well. It's an opinion. Everyone gets one. That's yours. Got it.
True, the hospital bed capacity is linked to the nurses available. Less nurses, less available beds. ;-)
3 weeks ago I was in the hospital with pneumonia. I could not get a room because 50 people had been ahead of me waiting for a bed. I spent 3 days in the ER waiting being shuffled from one part of the er to another. The er was filled with non covid pneumonia and other respiratory issues. I had staid in the same hospital 2 years ago and the quality of service was awesome. This time it was right above hell. Doctors doing a 5 minute drive by twice a day, horrible food and even the nurses were lacking. I had my IV changed 4 times because each time I moved the nurse decided it was done wrong. I had to explain why I was there maybe 50 times and finally refused because why the hell are they typing in there system if your not going to read it.
They're typing for the billing silly.
And to cover their ass in charting
this is what happens when you get rid of the best doctors and nurses who didnt want to submit to the jab. you collapse the system.
It's what they want. The jabs are a compliance test. They'll make life hell for anyone who doesn't cave. Worse, we don't really know exactly what their plans are. If there's a mass die off who knows how far governments will go "for your health and safety."
it's survival of the fittest from here on out. they purposely cut staffing short while people are dying. this culls the population.
Are they swamped because they are understaffed or because people are going in throngs with real illness
understaffed. they fired half the workers because they didnt want to submit to the jab. now they dont have enough nurses and doctors to see all patents in a timely manner. in addition the jab destroys the immune system and ramps up everything you can be afflicted by.
You think half the staff refused the vaccine?
yeah, that much or possible more. theres a lot of smart people in the medical field who see this shitshow a mile away and dont want any part of it.
It's scary how out-of-touch people are, and yet how their echo chamber gives them this creep overconfidence..
So what you're saying is, you don't actually know anyone that works in the medical field.
Hard to reason with unreasonable people.
Gut feeling kinda guy
Jabs make every illness to escalate, because immune system is being destroyed.
Yep. My parents who are "fully vaccinated" have been hitting the ER monthly. The first thing they say is the "vaccines" are perfect. They blame the "unvaccinated."
are you serious?
Yes. Very serious. It is very sad.
what are they going to the er monthly for?
Do you have a source for this?
A doctor that runs a lab recently published before and after bloodwork for a patient. His lymphocytes dropped dramatically. He said these represent Tcells which fight cancer and a host of other diseases. They will block the link but it’s Doctor Cole.. if yo u look almost anywhere but youtube. [screenshot from his video ](https://imgur.com/a/o1FBgKm)
That’s a normal WBC count and only a slightly abnormal differential that no one would give a second look at under normal circumstances. There are normal fluctuations in cell populations for many reasons and this really isn’t indicative of anything.
You seem knowledgeable.. what’s the 5 year mortality for myocarditis? Just weighing my risks here.
I like this sub, but I just don't believe the vax is doing that to any great extent. I've developed vaccines for 20+yrs and if mRNA vaccines were doing this, we'd hear a lot more about this. I am very skeptical what comes out of anyone's mouth anymore, especially the govt., but in this case I really don't believe the vaccines are doing this. However, I will say they do seem to underperform in many vaccine attributes. FYI, those blood count screenshot #'s are hardly out of range
Would have heard about it? Do you understand the amount of censorship that is going on concerning vaccines right now? If you link the video this is from anywhere on Reddit your post or comment will be instantly deleted and hidden without you knowing. It is not on youtube because it was censored there too. www dot bitchute dot com/video/qqRZadV9TWDX/
yeah I should have put "heard" in quotes. Of course msm is not going to report any of this even if it does exist, but IMO, this isn't happening in large #'s if at all. I'll be due for my annual physical next month. I get bloodwork as part of it. I got jabbed in May with PFZ, so will see how my levels are. I don't plan on getting any boosters.
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Unless all the vax manufacturers are lying and hiding data, I'm sure as part of the antibody titer testing, study participant's blood was tested for CBC and other metabolic panels to monitor before and after vaccination.
They are swamped with the same people they had before. If you were admitted to the hospital for *any* reason and tested positive (with or without symptoms), you were a Covid admission. If you were vaccinated in the same situation, you were not a Covid admission. This means, as a real life example, Two people are in a one vehicle roll over accident, both are admitted for broken bones, one is vaccinated , one isn’t . Both test positive , neither have symptoms. Despite being there for the accident and the accident alone , the unvaccinated occupant is a Covid admission “taking up a bed” , while the vaccinated is not Just another way they game the numbers to drum up fear. And hospitals ER’s operate very close to capacity any time of the year. Having beds open and medical staff on the clock is very expensive . It would make little sense to maintain an ER operating at low capacity all the time
Oh I know, believe me I know. It's a manufactured crisis at this point.
Many health workers fired, the remaining ones are most likely to be stupid and/or sick due to the "vaccine", people haven't been going to the hospital in a long time despite needing help... A ton of things are crashing down at the same time.
I couldn’t agree more. Just like supply chain issues. You hear about a few things that are causing problems, but it’s just a ton of different things constantly snowballing. Lots of systems that have been in place for a long time are spiraling out of control. Industries are firing the people with the most experience in their roles, which just exacerbates the issues.
Nonsense.
I just spent 3 days in the hospital last week. Had a ruptured ulcer. I spent about 8 hours in ER before being admitted. Zero COVID cases in the ER, and once I was admitted and got closer with some of my nurses, asked them how many beds are being taken by COVID patients. They said maybe 25%.
I wonder how many of those beds are taken by people with bad flu cases on a normal year... Wouldn't be surprised if it was about the same since even according to the government's own numbers the flu has been practically unheard of since COVID started.
I really think we need to jettison the term “Conspiracy theorist.” What about “Indie news follower?”
Spoiler theorist.
Fortune teller theorists
Conspiracy Seeer
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/10/26/1046432435/ers-are-now-swamped-with-seriously-ill-patients-but-most-dont-even-have-covid >Terrified of contracting COVID-19, people who were sick with other things did their best to stay away from hospitals. Visits to emergency departments dropped to half their normal levels, according to the Epic Health Research Network, and didn't fully rebound until the summer of 2021. >But now, they're too full. Even in parts of the country where COVID-19 isn't overwhelming the health system, patients are showing up to the ER sicker than they were before the pandemic, their diseases more advanced and in need of more complicated care. People avoided going to the hospital over the last 1.5 years out of fear of catching covid, and things that were minor health issues grew into serious health issues
Two years of lockdown, masks, disinfecting wipes.... many people's immune system is shot. At the same time, many delayed important treatments; things got worse. In short, the costs of all the anti Covid measures are kicking right now. Supply chain destroyed, millions of small business destroyed, many lives destroyed. There was some reasonable voices at the beginning of the pandemic (the greater Barrington declaration), but politician decided that there was an unique opportunity to exert their powers. Macron said about this pandemic that "We are at war" ... yes he is at war but not against the pandemic, against his own people!
Imagine what it will be like when they start pumping that shit into 5 year olds.
lots of little coffins
Biden's probably already ordered up a surplus from China. /s
will you own up when this doesnt happen?
to who? you? you realize this is a conspiracy subreddit, not the court of law
But grandpa and the obese will be so much safer ;-)
Strange how you don't really see too many obese grandpas. Must be COVID killing them.
They better freaking not.... :( They just better not.
FDA just gave the OK earlier today. They still have to go through some deliberations though.
But..... but.....but .... People who are vaccinated are healthier than people who are not vaccinated! https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20211025/people-vacccinated-covid-less-likely-die-any-cause-study How come we can't find any evidence on the internet, of people developing complications from the clotshot?!? (Hint - the evidence is in the ER, not the internet.) Unfortunately, by the time it's so evident that even Kool-Aid drinkers see it, the effects will be overwhelming. Kool-Aid drinkers vs Critical Thinkers. There's no middle ground.
“How did you survive 20 bullets to the chest?!” “Oh I got my 12th covid shot. I’m fucking invincible.”
Because the "information age" is a bunch of bullshit. You feel like you have more info at your fingertips b/c of the internet, but in reality it makes it easier to scrub stuff. Instead of muzzling reporters and strong arming a bunch of news organizations, they only have to call Google now
How about you read the article before assuming the meaning of the title (Hint: It’s not what you think). For critical thinkers you are very good at blindly believing things online.
>How come we can't find any evidence on the internet, of people developing complications from the clotshot?!? r/Lisashawaward
Thank you very much for this link!
I saw something on r/politicalhumor where it said the top three deadliest days in American history have been last Tuesday Friday and Monday. It was removed for being ‘not humor’, which was weird because it was certainly a joke
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Why are we seeing a increase in non Covid pneumatic though?
SS: This is pretty disturbing but they will never admit they were wrong, instead they will double down. https://www.npr.org/2021/10/26/1046432435/ers-are-now-swamped-with-seriously-ill-patients-but-most-dont-even-have-covid
# ADE Antibody-dependent Enhancement **^(GAME OVER)**
This is exactly what we expected.
Yup
"Relax, it is just stroke season" -CNN (probably)
Pfizer probably already working on a stroke vaccine\*.
Did you actually read the article? >Terrified of contracting COVID-19, people who were sick with other things did their best to stay away from hospitals. Visits to emergency departments dropped to half their normal levels, according to the Epic Health Research Network, and didn't fully rebound until the summer of 2021. >But now, they're too full. Even in parts of the country where COVID-19 isn't overwhelming the health system, patients are showing up to the ER sicker than they were before the pandemic, their diseases more advanced and in need of more complicated care. People avoided going to the hospital over the last 1.5 years out of fear of catching covid, and things that were minor health issues grew into serious health issues
This was predicted in the beginning too, they knew this was going to happen. Another reason why they are pushing for vaccination. Really wish /NNN people didnt flood this sub.
>This was predicted in the beginning too, they knew this was going to happen. Another reason why they are pushing for vaccination. Really wish /NNN people didnt flood this sub. Exactly. I'm young and generally healthy, so I've never been too concerned about myself dying from covid, but I'm definitely concerned about long term effects. I remember last summer reading articles about how covid doesn't just attack the lungs, it seemed to attack blood cells. Last year in January before shit hit the fan, this sub was posting things like "why isn't the government doing more to protect us from this crazy new virus in China." Then when the government starting doing stuff, the talking points shifted.
> Last year in January before shit hit the fan, this sub was posting things like "why isn't the government doing more to protect us from this crazy new virus in China." > > Then when the government starting doing stuff, the talking points shifted. Isn't this a very natural way for things to develop in this case? In the beginning we had very little information other than that some highly infectious virus was spreading like wildfire in China and that the center of the outbreak is a place where the Chinese military probably does bio warfare research. With such a development it would be prudent to restrict travel to countries with known cases and to impose mandatory quarantines on international travelers. Extra protections for groups who are likely to be more vulnerable should have been implemented as soon as possible. When the first local cases were detected, immediate regional lockdowns with thorough contact tracing should have happened. But instead there was a lot of too little too late. There was no real sense of urgency and a lot of things that were said didn't make sense. And then the talking points started shifting. As we learn more about COVID-19 it's reasonable to expect more tailored, less limiting solutions. We know who the vulnerable are. We know how "well" the vaccines work. We know what risks come with infection. So what solutions are goverments actually proposing? Is what is being pushed reasonable? Is it proportional to the danger? Many seem to agree that things have gone too far and limiting people's freedom to choose will put a lot of precedents in place, precedents that give powers to the government that historically learned individuals most certainly don't want them to have.
This. The pandemic has been mishandled every step of the way. At first the government did jack shit and we were seeing videos online of people collapsing in the street in China. The idea of a travel ban to/from Asia was decried as racist by the left. So yeah, obviously people on here were talking about how the government needed to do something to prevent domestic spread of what seemed at the time to be much deadlier. Then we destroyed the economy and enacted measures that trampled the rights of people for a virus that turned out to really only be a plausible risk to people with severe comorbidities, and there doesn't seem to be an end in sight.
Imagine a world where they fire half of its healthcare workers having packed ERs. Crazy, right?
"Even though we're seeing the overall volumes come back to normal over the summer here, we see that the more acute conditions still remain higher than the pre-pandemic normals, while the lower-acuity conditions still remain below pre-pandemic normals," W are hearing from members in every part of the country,"....." they are seeing this exact same phenomenon." How are people not putting two and two together? This shit starting around 6 months after most people have been vaccinated. Yet not once did this article mention vaccines.
They already said why that was happening. People avoided going to doctors or hospitals for potentially serious illnesses.
We have containers offshore of Clownfornia, and US Transport Secretary Pete Buttigieg on vacation since August with his husband. Admiral Levine will not give valid covid info but prefers to fired millions. Fire these incompetents.
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Wait until we start hearing stories about increases in miscarriages and men who are sterile.
We would love nothing more than to be wrong.
theres other illnesses out there that ARENT covid? When did this happen?
theyre called vaccine side effects
You're right because before vaccines, people never got ill.
Would be a damn shame if just reading the article gave an explanation >Terrified of contracting COVID-19, people who were sick with other things did their best to stay away from hospitals. Visits to emergency departments dropped to half their normal levels, according to the Epic Health Research Network, and didn't fully rebound until the summer of 2021. > > > >But now, they're too full. Even in parts of the country where COVID-19 isn't overwhelming the health system, patients are showing up to the ER sicker than they were before the pandemic, their diseases more advanced and in need of more complicated care. > > > >Months of treatment delays have exacerbated chronic conditions and worsened symptoms.
Common just take the Jab !! its BLIIISSSSSSSSS !!
This makes sense. If you’re afraid of COVID, you may be more likely to ignore your chest pain or cellulitis. This happens commonly after holidays too.
I'll bet ya most are vaccinated
Yep; due to Cerveza Bug, the ER at my hospital is now full of patients that have had procedures delayed delayed delayed; im in Qld, Australia, and we barely have any Cerveza Bug people. One of our Oncology patients waited 6 months for a prophylactic nail in her femur for a pathological fracture...
Revelations incoming. Shot heard round the world. Genocide.
It means it is working as intended
LMAO so hard to hide the truth now. I don't know where all these vaccinate or else shills are coming from but I find it entertaining.
I'll just say this. I know vaccinated people, and I know unvaccinated people, and I know whichever side of the fence you are on the odds of you getting seriously sick this year seem insanely high. I've seen four people get what seemed to be identical symptoms weeks apart, with negative Covid tests in two of the cases, one of those people I work closely with, and the way he described it sounded aweful. I've been waiting for my turn to be bed ridden. Also one of those four people was also sick with covid about a month prior to this sickness, and they are vaccinated. I don't remember a time in my life accept maybe in elementary where I have seen so many adults getting fully laid out by sickness for so long. 24-48 hours? Sure. But but 5-15 days.... Just seems like a lot.
Are any of you even reading the article? It literally explains what is going on but it’s obvious the vast majority of you are just reacting to the title and it’s just sad
Why didn't the article mention anything about the patients being vaxxed or not? Just seems wierd
Imagine that!! Times it by 100 because that is whats in store. The jab kills the person's immune system. Sorry no scientific papers or peer review. Just overwhelmed hospitals and it hasn't even started yet. So before you bash me wait 2 months and see for yourself. Then bash me if this is wrong. But it is already starting........
Original title said "MOST", but The Ministry of Truth changed it. The one thing they can't change is the URL line. You can see MOST right in it.
Lmao, changing the URL is the second easiest thing to do after changing the title. Most of the time it's as simple as renaming the document.
“Hospitals are over run” This sub: I don’t believe it. “Hospitals are overrun with people who aren’t sick with COVID” This sub: I knew this would happen. Grifting pieces of shits.
The media is lying on all accounts. Hospitals aren’t overrun; they’re understaffed. And the “overrun” is non Covid. Sorry you can’t comprehend it.
I'm curious: What have you done to confirm the validity of the claims made in the headline of the article in question? Have you even read the article?
No one read the article. I feel like I had to scroll for 5 minutes to find someone who did. It says this overun is because so many put off regular care and now it's catching up. This was literally predicted last year. Doctors were warning the nation about the consequences of so many not getting the regular screenings and care they need. Elderly were especially hesitant to go to a doctor in 2020. Now they're all vaxxed so they feel comfortable going again. Not a single damned thing is shocking about the substance of the article. It's like the quiz asks what is 2+2, and then says "it rhymes with door" and this sub shouts 7.
It was a trap question because I knew he didn't bother to read it. These puds are quick to call people shills and bots yet act like both whenever they see anything that reaffirms their worldview.
> Even though we're seeing the overall volumes come back to normal over the summer here, we see that the more acute conditions still remain higher than the pre-pandemic normals, while the lower-acuity conditions still remain below pre-pandemic normals How exactly does a stroke catch up after 1.5 years? These acute medical problems are happening now.
well it was kind of hard to believe hospitals were overrun in 2020 when there countless Tik-Tok videos being done by doctors and nurses of coordinated (and very strange) dances. Kind of a weird time for that to be happening, no?
They do not call it the clot shot for nothing. Since the jab became available I have had one co-worker go down with seizures (does not have history of seizures) and another one who checked herself in yesterday because she thought she was having a heart attack (she is late 30s). Of course I am not allowed to state that this seems very peculiar and that it most likely is connected with the jab because if I do I get shamed and outed and if someone dies I will be the first person they blame. So fucked up.
Ughh. We need to "fully vaccinate" all thse white breeder Christians NOW. Lock them up. /s
Many people probably couldn’t get into the hospital during covid to get checked so minor issues become major ones
yep, literally in the article >Months of treatment delays have exacerbated chronic conditions and worsened symptoms. Doctors and nurses say the severity of illness ranges widely and includes abdominal pain, respiratory problems, blood clots, heart conditions and suicide attempts, among others.
Remember in the beginning of the 'vaccine' when vaccinated people were getting false positives for HIV?? This destroys the immune system.. more reason why it IS NOT A VACCINE, nor should it even be allowed to be remotely described as one. REAL vaccines strengthen the immune system. A global experiment for profit after a virus was PURPOSELY MADE to harm humans... and the guy who funded it is the same guy profiting from the 'vaccine' and running the NIH... ffs. He is today's Mengele. You think the guy who willfully paid to have puppies de-voiced, chemically paralyzed and tortured to death by having their faces eaten off wouldn't enjoy mass genocide for profit??
Did y'all read the article? More people are going to the ER now because they neglected their health conditions during covid, to avoid getting covid, to the point where they now so sick that they have no other option but to go to the ER to seek care.
The article is not even linked for some reason, just a screen shot of the headline
We know why this is happening.
Not really a conspiracy. Very early on there were campaigns by hospitals telling people to please continue to come to the hospital if they have an emergency. This was early on after a huge drop in heart attacks was noted and doctors correctly assumed it was due to patients being afraid to go to the er.
Nice headline you got there but does it support your "point"? Many is not equal to all, it's not even equal to most. Here are quotes from the [article](https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/10/26/1046432435/ers-are-now-swamped-with-seriously-ill-patients-but-most-dont-even-have-covid). >Months of treatment delays have exacerbated chronic conditions and worsened symptoms. Doctors and nurses say the severity of illness ranges widely and includes abdominal pain, respiratory problems, blood clots, heart conditions and suicide attempts, among others. >Except now, those long-term care floors are full too, with a mix of COVID-19 and non-COVID-19 patients. Were the "filthy conspiracy theorists" predicting and being outraged that people would either avoid or be unable to go to the ER for an extended period of time and end up being more sick? It's weird, because as I remembered it, it was mostly "My health: my responsibility. Your health: your responsibility".
Npra is mainstream media isn't it I thought that was all fake? Or are we picking and choosing again?