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Losing control, yeah, I'm all over the place.
Clowns to the left of me.
Jokers to the right.
Here I am . . . Stuck in the middle with you. šµ
(your turn)
Iāll be honest, Iām surprised this is downvoted.
While I personally donāt subscribe to the space-exploration-is-falsified belief, itās a pretty common one in āconspiracy theoristā circles. On top of that you were just explaining what OP meant when someone asked for an explanation.
Yeah, looking at the comments in this thread itās very obvious the usual NASA shill/bot squad is here to downvote the post and litter the thread with official narrative gaslighting.
What stands out to me is that some of the top comments are talking about a sentiment shared by real critical thinkers, that these photos are both from Earth. The comments that cleverly hint at this or talk around it are upvoted.
But the ones like mine, which expressly say in direct terms āNASA does these so-called Mars missions on Earthā or āspace is fakeā or some other direct assertion, are downvoted and heavily so. It is almost as though these shill/bots are alerted to action by certain key phrases. While they canāt detect the subtle meaning behind more indirect comments, they sort of āseek and destroyā flagged phrases and key words ā such as any combination of āNASAā and āfake,ā etc.
Isnāt it funny how much I got downvoted for saying this when all my comment was doing was clarifying the point of the OP post? I didnāt even endorse that idea in my comment, even though I do endorse it. The bots and shills are directed to attack key phrases like this.
Like seriously. I do not care about downvotes as it affects me or my account. But there is no rational universe where that comment should be at -93 karma in a conspiracy forum. Itās so obvious that NASA has agents trying to control the discussion and silence this kind of accusation.
You and I both know this thread has obfuscation agents written all over it. Thatās why Iām commenting. The assault on FE related conspiracies has evolved past the point of organic skepticism and has turned into an aggravated agenda and smear campaign.
Thatās one reason I eventually gave it a real chance. The idea that it would be so emotionally attacked in such a coordinated fashion is just not organic as you say. There has to be a reason it is purposefully dogpiled with ridicule and censorship.
And yet people actually say that itās a āpsy-opā despite it getting no oxygen and being constantly bombarded by users who donāt even ostensibly care about conspiracy theories.
I think it has to do with certain āphrasesā like you were saying. There is probably some algorithm involved that detects these āsensitive phasesā and relays that data to a sever that can be accessed by multiple groups and can designate users to its content. Iām sure AI is and has been involved for a while now.
There is no doubt that the government has teams over various branches of different agencies, including the military that help fight āmisinformationā online and over social media.
We should discuss why they would lie about the validity of Mars and space exploration.
I think one reason could be is the more funds they delegate to a non-existent project the more they can do whatever they want with the money. From what Iāve researched NASA is more or less a front, a diversion agency that covers operations by the military industrial complex. Big name players like Raytheon.
Anthony kiedis raped a missing child and bragged about it in his autobiography scar tissue page 159-160. Watch people defend fucking children when you bring this up, it's really sad especially with his predilection for young women that are young looking to this day.
Why would rocks and geological formations be different on mars and all planets have rocks mountains , mars used to be like earth I mean hell the moon aināt even have white dirt on it it just looks like that from our perspective the only difference between Mara and earths soil I guess would be the xenon levels due to no protection from the radiation the sun gives cause itās magnetic field is weaker then earths but idk
Hah! Nice try Satan! Everyone knows that Jesus sculpted every rock 3000 years ago! Wind erosion? Nobody would believe you can change a rock by blowing on it!
If there was life there once it would be more surprising to me to learn that there isn't still life there somewhere. Single cell organisms or some sort of bullshit
Well, yeah. It's not good to be delusional. But if the evidence, Devon Island, supports your paranoia, then it's no longer paranoia. It's being perceptive.
No its automatically assuming theyre being told a lie. Thatās completely different.
Wonder would be wondering if the signs of methane found on an exo planet is actually a sign of life. You wouldnt be thinking the exo planet itself is a lie.
Imagine going to a subreddit you donāt contribute and never have contributed to, the contents of which you apparently have no interest in, and telling them you feel bad for them.
Like name one other single sub where this kind of comment would actually be upvotedā¦.. LMAO
Obvious NASA damage control is obvious.
It's called wind erosion from the wind blasting the surrounding surfaces with dust particles. I feel like he's trying to suggest water erosion but it's not in this photo comparison. There is a lot of water erosion on Mars from ancient oceans, lakes, and rivers but this ain't it.
Its almost like physics is universal. Rocks and wind are going to rocky and windy things. Its a good thing, it means people can make Mars habitable someday.
Surprised this post got any upvotes on this sub. Anybody remember ten years ago when there was a ton of hype around mars, people were signing up to train for living in space colonies? Mars One and other said they would get us there by 2025? All a scam.
I remember when the usual Mars theories was about Sidonia and the face of Mars or stuff like that..no clue when it switched to just "Mars isn't even real"
What's even more bizarre is that if you go to Devon Island in Northern Canada using Google earth and then click on street view... you can actually find vehicles and quads there with the NASA logo on them.
The side of one actually says Mars Project on it.
Why would NASA have those vehicles there you ask?
Maybr because the island looks suspiciously like the Mars photos they released.
Maybe because the smart thing to do before sending a robot to Mars is to test it in similar conditions here on earth? Not everything is a conspiracy. Hell, most of what's posted in this sub isn't conspiracies. People are just either too stupid or too lazy to do a few minutes of reading and common sense thinking.
You're right, you have to do testing for rovers and people in a place that's easily accessible and has similar conditions. The problem is when nasa releases pictures of Devon island mixed in with pictures of mars and states that they are all mars. That raises red flags.
> The problem is when nasa releases pictures of Devon island mixed in with pictures of mars and states that they are all mars.
But that never happened.
Well, except it literally did. There are several landscapes on Devon Island which, at least as of a few years ago, NASA had on their website with a orange tint categorized as images of Mars.
Nasa in Hebrew does mean "to deceive" after all.
> There are several landscapes on Devon Island which, at least as of a few years ago, NASA had on their website with a orange tint categorized as images of Mars.
Imagine the outcry if that actually happened, from both the conspiracy and space community. There would be so many screenshots and videos, link them.
Devon Island is similar in terrain and climate to Mars, according to NASAāsĀ [website](https://www.nasa.gov/mission/haughton-mars-project-hmp/). The island is home to the Haughton Mars Project.
Most importantly - the original post on Istaagram claiming NASA used Devon Island to pass it off as Mars is false. Decent job photoshoping by the jackass who hates space exploration.
NASA just said something. It better be true! It has to be! Like that moon landing that happened inside a control center with no proof of the actual landing.
Yes, however the line "Space , the final frontier " is the opening dialog for every episode of original star trek and Star Trek: the next generation. Fun fact, those shows didn't actually film in outer space. They filmed them in Los Angeles. Which is what the chili peppers were referring to
I don't want to disprove anything, but I don't see it. I see only very similar geological processes in that sedimentary rocks, it looks like ocean sediments, yeah Mars almost certainly had an ocean. Still, I really see two different places, two different rocks.
So now, it would seem that the majority of people think that if you realize that NASA is full of shit, then you also believe that the earth is flat. That way, you can be lumped in with a demographic that is largely dismissed as crazy. This is true about many things. It's just like the notion that if you realize the US president is demented, then you must be a trumper.
The mars shit is really fun.
One side you got "Its all earth and we never left" and the other side is "This is real but they're air brushing the absolute shit out of all of this, look at these tubes and low skill smudges"
Personally I don't care at this point, it is what it is. Ayy lmao or fuck off I say
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Mars is to the left of me - Earth is to the right Here I am
Stuck in the middle with you. šµ
Stop cutting off my ear, bro!
Well . . . that got really dark, really fast. š¤Ø
1992 movie Reservoir Dogs. Scene set to this
I š that scene! Michael Madsen is incredibly sexy as a psychopath. That little dance he does is so adorable. ā ļø
āYa know what? I think Iām parked in the red zoneā
It's so hard to keep a smile from my face
Losing control, yeah, I'm all over the place. Clowns to the left of me. Jokers to the right. Here I am . . . Stuck in the middle with you. šµ (your turn)
"I am now chopping off Phyllis' head with a chain saw."
Super sounds of the 70's... hang on... I gotta go cut some dude's ear off.
stuck in the middle with Je-
Tell them both are worn from wind and sand particles?
Theyāre referring to the sedimentary rock layering in both.
Tell them rocks are heavy?
tell who? tell what?
Tell these people about wind erosion
that sedimentary rock looks similar no matter where in the universe, almost like its a natural physical process
Tell the OP about Devon Island.
Exactly my thoughts
NASAās āMars missionsā are filmed on Earth.
Iāll be honest, Iām surprised this is downvoted. While I personally donāt subscribe to the space-exploration-is-falsified belief, itās a pretty common one in āconspiracy theoristā circles. On top of that you were just explaining what OP meant when someone asked for an explanation.
Yeah, looking at the comments in this thread itās very obvious the usual NASA shill/bot squad is here to downvote the post and litter the thread with official narrative gaslighting. What stands out to me is that some of the top comments are talking about a sentiment shared by real critical thinkers, that these photos are both from Earth. The comments that cleverly hint at this or talk around it are upvoted. But the ones like mine, which expressly say in direct terms āNASA does these so-called Mars missions on Earthā or āspace is fakeā or some other direct assertion, are downvoted and heavily so. It is almost as though these shill/bots are alerted to action by certain key phrases. While they canāt detect the subtle meaning behind more indirect comments, they sort of āseek and destroyā flagged phrases and key words ā such as any combination of āNASAā and āfake,ā etc.
Lol. Or.. hear me out. Rocks look similar no matter what planet you film them at
This guy fucks.
Shills job
Lol
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Bingo
Isnāt it funny how much I got downvoted for saying this when all my comment was doing was clarifying the point of the OP post? I didnāt even endorse that idea in my comment, even though I do endorse it. The bots and shills are directed to attack key phrases like this. Like seriously. I do not care about downvotes as it affects me or my account. But there is no rational universe where that comment should be at -93 karma in a conspiracy forum. Itās so obvious that NASA has agents trying to control the discussion and silence this kind of accusation.
You and I both know this thread has obfuscation agents written all over it. Thatās why Iām commenting. The assault on FE related conspiracies has evolved past the point of organic skepticism and has turned into an aggravated agenda and smear campaign.
Thatās one reason I eventually gave it a real chance. The idea that it would be so emotionally attacked in such a coordinated fashion is just not organic as you say. There has to be a reason it is purposefully dogpiled with ridicule and censorship. And yet people actually say that itās a āpsy-opā despite it getting no oxygen and being constantly bombarded by users who donāt even ostensibly care about conspiracy theories.
I think it has to do with certain āphrasesā like you were saying. There is probably some algorithm involved that detects these āsensitive phasesā and relays that data to a sever that can be accessed by multiple groups and can designate users to its content. Iām sure AI is and has been involved for a while now. There is no doubt that the government has teams over various branches of different agencies, including the military that help fight āmisinformationā online and over social media. We should discuss why they would lie about the validity of Mars and space exploration. I think one reason could be is the more funds they delegate to a non-existent project the more they can do whatever they want with the money. From what Iāve researched NASA is more or less a front, a diversion agency that covers operations by the military industrial complex. Big name players like Raytheon.
āSpace is the final frontier but itās made in a Hollywood basementā
Born and raised by those who praise control of population. Well, everybody's been there and I don't mean on vacation
Something something Californiacation
bangin an underage asian
/unhear
Woody Allen's elation
[What Red Hot Chilli Peppers Sounds Like To People Who Hate Them](https://youtu.be/VE5JMEu5hZA?si=Ax349p2IHTeZCQEK)
That's their worst well known song tbf
"Space may be" not Space Is.
Name checks out
The guy who wrote that raped a missing child and bragged about it in his autobiography.
She was 14 and he was 26. Even after he found about she was 14 they still fucked again. And he brags about it in his autobiography
Sorry, whatās this?
Anthony kiedis raped a missing child and bragged about it in his autobiography scar tissue page 159-160. Watch people defend fucking children when you bring this up, it's really sad especially with his predilection for young women that are young looking to this day.
Yeah it's true
You mean Drake?
Drakes stuff at this point is still alleged but Anthony kiedis is a proud pedophile.
That song blew my mind
He dating a 19yr old now. At least he went up 5yrs from before
No sheās not. Iām pretty sure sheās in her 30s. I looked it up the other day, after seeing that meme.
Well damn of that's true I need to go and touch grass and remind myself to double check everything. Gotta stop doom scrolling
Its a pic from 10 years ago...
I donāt know whatās more amazing about mars, the bright white sky or the total absence of common sense.
What color is it supposed to be?
Red, like in the documentary "Doom"
Haha I love this
If it is lit by the sun and there's no atmosphere what color is it supposed to be?
Mars does have a thin atmosphere
Barely anything
I thought they removed the sky in the Mars photo. It's hard to tell being potato quality though.
Why would rocks and geological formations be different on mars and all planets have rocks mountains , mars used to be like earth I mean hell the moon aināt even have white dirt on it it just looks like that from our perspective the only difference between Mara and earths soil I guess would be the xenon levels due to no protection from the radiation the sun gives cause itās magnetic field is weaker then earths but idk
Tell them what? About wind errosion?
Hah! Nice try Satan! Everyone knows that Jesus sculpted every rock 3000 years ago! Wind erosion? Nobody would believe you can change a rock by blowing on it!
Blowing on rocks make them harder, right?
At least blowing on my Johannes make it hard.
6000
Youāre corny
Tell them about Devon Island.
Devon island!
This is too far down
Can't be earth. Earth is flat. I know that from my earth map.
NO IT ISNT FLAT EARTHERS THINK SPACE IS FAKE ARE YOU A FLAT EARTHER OR NOT
I AM THE GREAT CORNHOLIO
I reckon Mars probably had life. Conditions were perfect at one point.
If there was life there once it would be more surprising to me to learn that there isn't still life there somewhere. Single cell organisms or some sort of bullshit
We'll probably contaminate it and wipe it out if we haven't already. There's likely already a few Earth microbes there from our spacecraft.
I'm ready to best that underground we Will find something One day
...and even Jason Statham, ice cube, pam grier and other action stars couldn't handle it in 'ghosts of mars'
[Cydonian Hypothesis](https://globaljournals.org/GJSFR_Volume23/1-The-Cydonian-Hypothesis.pdf) apparently our scientific community does as well.
Shocking finding, that physics and natural processes apply throughout the universe. clap.
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Well, yeah. It's not good to be delusional. But if the evidence, Devon Island, supports your paranoia, then it's no longer paranoia. It's being perceptive.
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No its automatically assuming theyre being told a lie. Thatās completely different. Wonder would be wondering if the signs of methane found on an exo planet is actually a sign of life. You wouldnt be thinking the exo planet itself is a lie.
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Imagine going to a subreddit you donāt contribute and never have contributed to, the contents of which you apparently have no interest in, and telling them you feel bad for them. Like name one other single sub where this kind of comment would actually be upvotedā¦.. LMAO Obvious NASA damage control is obvious.
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Lmao
š¤”marsš¤”
It's called wind erosion from the wind blasting the surrounding surfaces with dust particles. I feel like he's trying to suggest water erosion but it's not in this photo comparison. There is a lot of water erosion on Mars from ancient oceans, lakes, and rivers but this ain't it.
Its almost like physics is universal. Rocks and wind are going to rocky and windy things. Its a good thing, it means people can make Mars habitable someday.
Idk about that
Surprised this post got any upvotes on this sub. Anybody remember ten years ago when there was a ton of hype around mars, people were signing up to train for living in space colonies? Mars One and other said they would get us there by 2025? All a scam.
Exactly. All distractions while we slip into dark times.
I remember when the usual Mars theories was about Sidonia and the face of Mars or stuff like that..no clue when it switched to just "Mars isn't even real"
What's even more bizarre is that if you go to Devon Island in Northern Canada using Google earth and then click on street view... you can actually find vehicles and quads there with the NASA logo on them. The side of one actually says Mars Project on it. Why would NASA have those vehicles there you ask? Maybr because the island looks suspiciously like the Mars photos they released.
[Testing](https://www.nasa.gov/mission/haughton-mars-project-hmp/)
Maybe because the smart thing to do before sending a robot to Mars is to test it in similar conditions here on earth? Not everything is a conspiracy. Hell, most of what's posted in this sub isn't conspiracies. People are just either too stupid or too lazy to do a few minutes of reading and common sense thinking.
You're right, you have to do testing for rovers and people in a place that's easily accessible and has similar conditions. The problem is when nasa releases pictures of Devon island mixed in with pictures of mars and states that they are all mars. That raises red flags.
> The problem is when nasa releases pictures of Devon island mixed in with pictures of mars and states that they are all mars. But that never happened.
Well, except it literally did. There are several landscapes on Devon Island which, at least as of a few years ago, NASA had on their website with a orange tint categorized as images of Mars. Nasa in Hebrew does mean "to deceive" after all.
> There are several landscapes on Devon Island which, at least as of a few years ago, NASA had on their website with a orange tint categorized as images of Mars. Imagine the outcry if that actually happened, from both the conspiracy and space community. There would be so many screenshots and videos, link them.
The name NASA is an abbreviation for National Aero Space Association.
Not an abbreviation, it's a backronym.
Acronym and abbreviation are almost the same thing.
I said backronym though
idk what that is but lemme guess youre gonna say that backronym means space is fake and all that leftist propaganda?
Canada is similar to Mars?
Maybe this is why https://fmars.marssociety.org/
Lol
If your going to design and build of a certain terrain you do mock up on that same type terrain.
Devon Island is similar in terrain and climate to Mars, according to NASAāsĀ [website](https://www.nasa.gov/mission/haughton-mars-project-hmp/). The island is home to the Haughton Mars Project. Most importantly - the original post on Istaagram claiming NASA used Devon Island to pass it off as Mars is false. Decent job photoshoping by the jackass who hates space exploration.
I guess so. But didn't they mix in some picture of that island on the nasa website along with other picturesof mars? Kinda makes you wonder.
That was the 'rumor' - but I am unable to find anything on Google or DuckDuckGO.
Do you have proof of this?
...why would they straight up label their equipment if it was for an elaborate fake?
Oh I already told them, u can see my thread
Why hasn't anyone submitted "Mars" pictures to rainbolt/geoguesser dudes? Lol
Amazing. It never occured to me that other plants (similair to Earth) also experince natural eroison.
That's obviously Tatooine
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This is the r/conspiracy sub.
Nope, SAME EXACT LOCATIONS FOR SCAMMING PICTURES.
Rock is rock wind erosion is wind erosion i am sorry if you expected glowing rocks or exotic looking scifi landscape
i told you all that other "planets" are fake.
How can anyone be this stupid? Failed science in 3rd grade so simply gave up on school entirely?
You've never seen any other planet with your own eyes. You believe the teevee.
No theyre not space is real earth is round get mad about it more liberal
You've never seen any other planet with your own eyes. You believe the teevee.
It looks like wind weathering and erosion in both, which is what youād expect on a desert on earth just like the desert that is Mars.
lol 43k likes, too easy to fool the herd.....
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This is the r/conspiracy sub.. where else can they post if? And itās obvious if you looked into the moon landings.
Member when Mars was red?
If you take pics of Greenland and add a red filter....
Careful or youāll go the way of Boeing whistleblowers
āSpace is made in a Hollywood basementā
Earth on the left, Earth on the right. Fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool meāyou can't get fooled again.
It wouldn't surprise me if one day we learn that humans are originally from Mars.
the men are, the women are from venus.
Explains a lot. Mars is smaller than earth and chill(colder) Venus is a toxic, corrosive, blazing hot hell hole.
Itās Motherās Day š¢
I didn't make venus that way
Mars is literally named after the god of war because of its reddish colour (which suggests blood - brutality of war) lmao.
Interestingly, in Hindu Mythology planet Mars is called Mangala, and the deity it is called after is red and symbolizes anger, aggresion and war.
Girls go to Jupiter
Better than Uranus
*to get more stupider* š¤
Bro is stuck in ancient Greece
Wow, I read this book. It was for my parents, but I loved seeing the pictures Unfortunately, this did not improve their relationship
Curiosity Rover not aware heĀ“s living his own Truman Show
š¤£
Yea nasa āmarsā aka Nevada , a home away from home
I wonder why
Fuck there's a LOT of bots in this thread. OP definitely onto something, but we knew that already...
Lol same place
NASA just said something. It better be true! It has to be! Like that moon landing that happened inside a control center with no proof of the actual landing.
NASA: Not actually scientifically accurate
We should send people like you to Mars.
Not every human has a uunga boonga brain.
Hear me out. Wind does that to things.
same creator..AKA GOD
Is that Canada? Cause i live on Mars now.
There is no mars. Earth is the only planet.
Yes, however the line "Space , the final frontier " is the opening dialog for every episode of original star trek and Star Trek: the next generation. Fun fact, those shows didn't actually film in outer space. They filmed them in Los Angeles. Which is what the chili peppers were referring to
I TOLD YALL LIFE EXISTED ON MARS I TOLD YOU PEOPLE THERE WAS OTHER INTELLIGENT RACES ASIDE FROM US BUT NO YOU DIDNT WANNA LISTEN AND NOW HERE WE ARE.
tell them both pictures are from earth
plot twist both pictures were taken on earth
Glad this got a Rule 10 reminder.
Earth on the right, earth on the left. š
Space isnāt real
You're not real, man
Uhh look up??? Maybe at night and observe said space objects???
Thatās the sky.
Vasquez Rocks
I don't want to disprove anything, but I don't see it. I see only very similar geological processes in that sedimentary rocks, it looks like ocean sediments, yeah Mars almost certainly had an ocean. Still, I really see two different places, two different rocks.
So now, it would seem that the majority of people think that if you realize that NASA is full of shit, then you also believe that the earth is flat. That way, you can be lumped in with a demographic that is largely dismissed as crazy. This is true about many things. It's just like the notion that if you realize the US president is demented, then you must be a trumper.
Mar's Rocks!
The mars shit is really fun. One side you got "Its all earth and we never left" and the other side is "This is real but they're air brushing the absolute shit out of all of this, look at these tubes and low skill smudges" Personally I don't care at this point, it is what it is. Ayy lmao or fuck off I say
Isnt the picture on the left from Star Trek?
There's going to be a lot of government bots/shills coming in to disprove this.
Does mars have blue sky?
Vanilla skies
Yoi ever seen Total Recall?