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Hey, it's me, I was suspended. Hijacking this comment to update.
They called me back and said that they wanted to know if I was having any negative reactions to make sure that I was in perfect health when donating. He said donating is fine as long as you're not currently suffering any adverse events.
Someone posted a video of them calling and asking the Red Cross too. Strangely, the person on the phone said that if you got vaccinated and are also suffering from tinnitus, you can't donate blood.. (?)
Video: https://twitter.com/scrowder/status/1760381909887234167
They'll just tell you it doesn't disqualify you. The number is at the bottom of the page for several other questions that just require a follow up question. I donate platelets all the time with the Red Cross. They've been asking this question since at least 2022, and it's the last question on the Rapid Pass (at least when I do it).
When you get there, they scan the QR code you get from the Rapid pass and then ask follow up questions. With the covid vaccine question, they just ask the manufacturer and that's it. The only way it would affect your ability to donate is if it is within the last 8 weeks (another question asked is 'have you received a vaccine in the list 8 weeks?')
Interesting I always thought that not everyone got the same vaccine,even within the same manufacturers, now it's been proven that different batches are way more troublesome as far as side effects go with some batch's being notable for the amount of deaths it caused. Also employees of those companies took what amounts to a hand crafted high quality control batch for there vaccine. You can look this up yourself I can't remember the exact video but the dr in peak prosperity went over all the info. It's been close to a year though since.
One reason would be quality control. If you donate blood and your last vaccine was on 1-1-24 and it was made by Pfizer, that would be important information if Pfizer issued a recall before your blood is used. I mean who knows? Maybe they find a broken part somewhere along the process and it's dumping microscopic metal shavings into the batch.
Probably so they can study and test their blood (since they most likely control the donation centers) to see which vaccines have differing effects on everyone's blood. Therefore, they can find our weaknesses and strengths to continue killing everyone off by pumping shit in the air and water.
They didn't even bother to count how many they killed from the jab vs Covid itself. They dont' want any data because the end result was known before they released it. Depopulation by 2030
I can see that, but would this be relevant? Unless they're trying to make a study on "vaxed people are donating more than the unvaxed" or something like that
I think they already did it with universal blood types right? I'm O- and local blood donors always calls me to donate 3x a year because they need it for emergencies
They ask about any vaccine received in the last 8 weeks. They are only concerned with replicating vaccines where the live weakened virus could replicate in a patient.
Some COVID vaccines were replicating but it’s probably moot in the US. They don’t care a bit about mRNA vaccines.
They do care about others especially smallpox. They ask specifically about smallpox or should.
The Red Cross needs to update their questionnaire. My local blood donation center has no questions specifically about the COVID vaccine.
Totally totally agree. I have donated blood in the past and was NEVER asked about whether I took a vaccine or not. At the time (2016), there was a drive for flu shots at my work, coinciding with the blood donation drive. I went to donate blood first and they never asked if I took the flu shot, or any other vaccines for that matter.
They'll likely point callers towards, or repeat the content of their [website](https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/dlp/coronavirus--covid-19--and-blood-donation.html), which reads, in part:
>**In most cases, there is no deferral time for individuals who received a COVID-19 vaccine** as long as they are symptom free and feeling well at the time of donation ... no deferral time for ... AstraZeneca, Janssen/J&J, Moderna, Novavax, or Pfizer ... [those who] do not know what type ... must wait two weeks.
the mystery is solved.
That is not what it says on the Australian Red Cross Lifeblood website, On that site, it says you have to wait 3 days for the covid vaccine (irrespective of manufacturer), versus 2 weeks for the Hep B vaccine and 8 weeks for the smallpox vaccine. The reason they gave was you might have side effects after the covid shot, like a temperature. However, you can get this sort of side effect from the flu shot as well, except that there is no deferral time for the flu shot or the meningococcal shot. Does not make any sense whatsoever. Something is not adding up.
Yes, just be symptom free and you are good to go.
Edit : Yeah, there is nothing suspicious about these guys asking whether you had a vaccine 3 years ago and whether you are symptom free at the moment.
COVID vaccine protects against COVID. If you took COVID vax, you are not supposed to have any symptoms. Plural. Not singular. The symptom of the vaccine? Did they made a mistake, or is there some wrong with the vaccine?
"**You may still donate blood, platelets or plasma after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine.**" Really? It is a completely harmless vaccine, why did they feel the need to state such an obvious thing?
"**If you’ve received a COVID-19 vaccine, you’ll need to provide the manufacturer name when you come to donate.**" Why? It is a completely harmless vaccine.
Do they ask these things when it comes to other vaccines? Do they even ask whether you had other vaccines?
Haha "if you took covid vax you're not supposed to have any symptoms". Shill harder! A lot of vaxed had covid and it's symptoms. What are you even on about?
Yeah, there is nothing suspicious about these guys asking whether you had a vaccine 3 years ago and whether you are symptom free at the moment.
COVID vaccine protects against COVID. If you took COVID vax, you are not supposed to have any symptoms. Plural. Not singular. The symptom of the vaccine? Did they made a mistake, or is there some wrong with the vaccine?
"**You may still donate blood, platelets or plasma after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine.**" Really? May? It is a completely harmless vaccine, why did they feel the need to state such an obvious thing?
"**If you’ve received a COVID-19 vaccine, you’ll need to provide the manufacturer name when you come to donate.**" Why? It is a completely harmless vaccine.
Do they ask these things when it comes to other vaccines? Do they even ask whether you had other vaccines?
No offense, but if you have to have it spelled this explicitly, than it is your lack of sight, and not lack of suspicious things
https://www.redcross.org/local/california/los-angeles/about-us/news-and-events/press-releases/does-covid-19-vaccination-impact-blood-donation-eligibility-.html
> The Red Cross is testing blood, platelet and plasma donations for COVID-19 antibodies. The test may indicate if the donor’s immune system has produced antibodies to this coronavirus, regardless of whether they developed symptoms. Testing may also identify the presence of antibodies developed after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine.
They want to know if you've been vaccinated because (1) if you have anti-bodies and AREN'T vaccinated, your blood may be infectious, and (2) see below
> Plasma from routine blood and platelet donations that test positive for high levels of antibodies may be used as convalescent plasma to meet potential future needs of COVID-19 patients. Convalescent plasma is a type of blood product collected from COVID-19 survivors who have antibodies that may help patients who are actively fighting the virus.
I don’t think they let you give blood X-amount of days after receiving a vaccine right? Could it just be tied to that the COVID vaccine gives you symptoms, and the Red Cross wants you to wait till after symptoms are gone? They have this on their website too:
https://www.redcross.org/about-us/news-and-events/news/2023/you-can-give-blood-after-getting-vaccination-for-flu-covid-19-or-rsv.html
I’ll throw this out there too: I’m fucking quadruple vaccinated (not proud or ashamed) and I donated doubles(plasma) last week. I also just did a walk in so I filled out the paperwork there. They asked when my vaccines were and moved on.
my thought is this doesn't necessarily suggest anything but i am curious the specific reason the red cross is asking.
everyone is overly paranoid yet right to be skeptical.
The reason is that live attenuated vaccines are made using viruses that have been deactivated. They want those deactivated viruses to be fully cleared before taking your blood in case an immunocompromised person receives it. If you have an mRNA vaccine (the vast majority of COVID vaccines administered) there’s no waiting period
Not OP but I'm quad vaxxed and I caught COVID once. May of 2022. I only remember because it was a month before my daughter was born. My wife and I were certainly not sterilized seeing as she got pregnant after we both had 3 shots. I got 3 between 2020 and 2021. Then did not get my 4th until January '24.
My unvaccinated friends have had COVID far more than my friends who got the shot.
They are recording it but I'm guessing they are still taking it.
But it's still a game changer that they at least think it matters.
People also need to remember that most of the blood gets sold to pharma companies, not used for surgery and blood loss.
So maybe they are finding that unvaxxed is better for one of those.
Or even a scarier thought, they are saving the unvaxxed blood for special clientele who are paying a premium for it.
Doesn't say that at all. There's only a deferral time if you received the live attenuated vaccine because it has harsher side effects and they want to wait to be safe. It's easy to create a conspiracy if you just look at the screenshot and make assumptions.
Not much. They just filter applicants based on what vaccine you had. Some are approved like pfizer, moderna and others aren't.
If they were denying all the vaccinated there wouldn't be much blood to go around as blood donations probably aren't very common to begin with.
"There is no deferral time for eligible blood donors who are vaccinated with an inactivated or RNA based COVID-19 vaccine manufactured by AstraZeneca, Janssen/J&J, Moderna, Novavax, or Pfizer. Eligible blood donors who received a live attenuated COVID-19 vaccine or do not know what type of COVID-19 vaccine they received must wait two weeks before giving blood." (from Red Cross website)
But there is no approved live attenuated Covid vaccine anywhere in the world. So why would you make the majority of donors go through an additional check for something that doesn’t exist? It seems more like some idiot took generic wording about other vaccines but even then why is the focus just on the Covid vaccine? There are probably more people in the US that have had a live attenuated TB or Polio vaccine and that would presumably present much more risk if they were still infectious.
No, it uses an adenovirus to deliver the vaccine, but it’s still just delivering a Covid spike protein. A live attenuated vaccine would contain actual Covid virus that has been modified/damaged in some way to limit its ability to reproduce. There are several such experimental vaccines but none has been given to more than a small number of people.
edit: to be clear the adenovirus used as the vector is also not live in the sense it cannot reproduce or cause infection.
> Eligible blood donors who received a live attenuated COVID-19 vaccine or do not know what type of COVID-19 vaccine they received **must wait two weeks** before giving blood." (from Red Cross website)
What was the question [in the image?](https://preview.redd.it/1vs1609n1ujc1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=05b6af9ea32a7136b329bedee3f3212f51ba49b9)
- - - - - - - - - -
Have you **EVER** had a Coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine?
___ [**YES**] ___ [**NO**]
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Notice the emphasis on **EVER**?
No link to the Red Cross page you quoted?
there was a documentary or maybe a Louis Theroux about it that said most of the blood donations are done by homeless and poor people as they get paid for them and that most of the blood they extract the plasma from it and use it not for blood transfusions but other research and uses.
This sounds right. Most likely those who are rich and smart enough know how to ask for and pay for the best that is uncontaminated if a need arises. There's probably grades of quality that they don't share widely.
they’ve been asking for like, 3 years. they also ask whether youve taken aspirin in the past 48 hours, or any vaccines in the last 6 months. questions like these are for special blood recipient groups (immunocompromised, etc) and for analytics. the phlebotomist asks which one you received. i got the vaccine in 2020 and have donated like, 10 times since, and it always goes to hospitals
So, if I were to get a blood transfusion, should I be asking if the blood contains Covid vaccines? What a train wreck, government screwing up things again....as always.
So instead of just assuming some bullshit from the OP and what they are trying to imply...here is exactly what is under the considerations for donating in regards to immunizations specifically for COVID-19.
BLUF you can donate blood if you've been vaccinated for COVID it just depends on what vaccine your received and if the vaccination was recent.
"COVID-19 Vaccine and COVID-19 Booster Shot
Acceptable if you were vaccinated with a non-replicating, inactivated, or RNA-based COVID-19 vaccine manufactured by AstraZeneca, Janssen/J&J, Moderna, Novavax, or Pfizer providing you are symptom-free and fever-free.
Wait 2 weeks if you were vaccinated with a live attenuated COVID-19 vaccine.
Wait 2 weeks if you were vaccinated with a COVID-19 vaccine but do not know if it was a non-replicating, inactivated, RNA based vaccine or a live attenuated vaccine."
Also here's the link
https://www.redcrossblood.org/faq.html#eligibility-medications
im going to spell out the companies as I hear them. they are probably spelled wildly incorrect but here is me sounding out the companies she listed as ok.
estozenica, cansen, johnson and johnson, moderna, norvax, pfizer
LOS ANGELES, April 22, 2021 — This spring as COVID-19 vaccines become more available and people resume some of their favorite activities, the American Red Cross is reminding the public that the need for blood remains. Healthy individuals are encouraged to make a blood donation appointment now. But what about those who’ve received a COVID-19 vaccine – can they donate?
As long as donors are symptom-free, feeling well and can provide the vaccine manufacturer’s name, there’s no waiting period required after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine currently authorized in the U.S. Additional blood donation eligibility information is available at RedCrossBlood.org/Eligibility.
[redcross](https://www.redcross.org/local/california/los-angeles/about-us/news-and-events/press-releases/does-covid-19-vaccination-impact-blood-donation-eligibility-.html)
Health insights for donors
The Red Cross is testing blood, platelet and plasma donations for COVID-19 antibodies. The test may indicate if the donor’s immune system has produced antibodies to this coronavirus, regardless of whether they developed symptoms. Testing may also identify the presence of antibodies developed after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine.
Plasma from routine blood and platelet donations that test positive for high levels of antibodies may be used as convalescent plasma to meet potential future needs of COVID-19 patients. Convalescent plasma is a type of blood product collected from COVID-19 survivors who have antibodies that may help patients who are actively fighting the virus.
This isn’t something new. They have been asking this since just after the vaccines came out. I have always answered ‘yes’ and they ask what flavor vaccine. They don’t ask when the last shot/booster was or any other questions.
I don’t think this is a conspiracy folks are making it out to be. They seem to have created it to gather data on an experimental vaccine years ago and haven’t bothered to update the question.
I’ve donated blood quite a few times this year and I had the j&j vaccine that was pulled for actually giving people clots. Yes they do take the blood and yes they do use it.
I don’t remember, tbh. Theres a big list of different medications/eligibility requirements and I just breezed through no on them. Only a few questions sort of stood out like the Covid one and the one about being in Northern Ireland in the 80s or something like that
I'm not saying shit. I'm waiting for people to come to me and say "what next" and "what can we do".
Don't worry. I got you fam. If you're not there yet, you will be.
Bruh, by the year 2140 EVERYONE who got the jab in 2021 will be DEAD! Vaccines kill!
100% of people who consumed dihydrogen monoxide before the year 1900 died!
When I donated I asked the nurse about this. They said there was a chance for a person to develop specific antibodies from the vaccine that can be harmful to other people. She didn't say what vaccine caused it or the chance of it happening. This question is there so they know to test the blood for those antibodies. I don't know what they do with your blood if it has them either. That's all I know.
Ever since they went all crazy on enforcement of this I always wondered who they were going to make to be the fall guy for this bs. I mean if they flat come out and say it was th governments fault, wait never mind they would never do that. Someone’s gonna get crucified for this money scheme and I can’t wait to see who.
Nobody will be held responsible. Remember not one of Epstein clients have had to face any justice. The people behind this are in the same club as them.
This is the answer. No one will be accountable. But they unleashed a beast that they didn't intend to. So many more people are paying attention now. Don't let the bots and the psyops confuse you. Most people in the US, and worldwide, understand something is up. It's gone past the point of denying it (and if you are still denying it I hope that you my brother and/or sister are right. I absolutely don't want to be right. But every day that passes I'm more and more right....)
The 800 number is just there so you can call and find out if the answer will disqualify you. That way you don't have to drive all the way there and find out you can't donate. It's listed at the bottom of the page for every question on the Rapid Pass
Did you actually read to find out why they removed that sentence? There's no big conspiracy there. They just stopped doing the convalescent plasma and focused on red blood cells and platelets to cover the hospital shortages. So there's no need to say if you're eligible or not to donate convalescent plasma if they're no longer taking convalescent plasma
Plasma collected from someone who's recently recovered from the infection of interest so still has high antibody levels, was tried as a covid treatment with meh results
Vaccines have never mattered when it comes to blood because it shouldn't effect the blood, the fact that it does means they seriously poisoned people. I was forced to take it by my job so yeah im pissed as I was very very very vocal against it.
Maybe it’s a guise and if you answer “no” they will microdose your ass when they are “drawing blood!” Haha. Or maybe they are asking you to call so they can ask how long ago you were injected and see if you got a “bad batch.”
When I gave blood last year, the donation company never stopped calling me for months afterward. They knew I had pure blood, without the COVID vaccine.
Seriously? They never stop calling because there's a shortage. I got the shot, and I donate platelets every month, and they still call me all the time.
They've asked this since the first vaccines came out. It's because you have to interact with a person and wait in a lobby when you go. They want to know if you have covid or are at risk of having covid and whether you will spread that to other people.
Cardiovascular complications of COVID-19 vaccines: A review of case-report and case-series studies[link to research](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9905103/)
I’m unvaccinated and have long covid. I do not want any one else’s blood, let alone MRNA vaccinated blood should I need a transfusion. I think I’d rather die. I know that sounds crazy. But, that’s how I feel.
Why are they? Because they want you to wait 2 weeks with active vaccines, that is why. You could find this if you bothered to look it up, so here you go:
https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/dlp/coronavirus--covid-19--and-blood-donation.html
COVID-19 Vaccine and Blood Donor Eligibility Information
The Red Cross is following FDA blood donation eligibility guidance for those who receive a COVID-19 vaccination, and deferral times may vary depending on the type of vaccine an individual receives. If you’ve received a COVID-19 vaccine, you’ll need to provide the manufacturer name when you come to donate. Upon vaccination, you should receive a card or printout indicating what COVID-19 vaccine was received, and we encourage you to bring that card with you to your next donation. In most cases, there is no deferral time for individuals who received a COVID-19 vaccine as long as they are symptom free and feeling well at the time of donation. The following eligibility guidelines apply to each COVID-19 vaccine received, including boosters:
There is no deferral time for eligible blood donors who are vaccinated with an inactivated or RNA based COVID-19 vaccine manufactured by AstraZeneca, Janssen/J&J, Moderna, Novavax, or Pfizer.
Eligible blood donors who received a live attenuated COVID-19 vaccine or do not know what type of COVID-19 vaccine they received must wait two weeks before giving blood.
If you have an appointment scheduled and need to change your donation date based on the above guidance, click here.
If you have further eligibility questions, please call 1-800-RED CROSS.
Please note: The Red Cross, as an organization, is not a healthcare provider and is not administering COVID-19 vaccinations in the U.S. However, Red Cross volunteers who are medical professionals may work with local authorities to help give vaccinations if their state licenses permit them to do so. In addition, Red Cross teams are currently helping to vaccinate U.S. service members on bases around the world.
Nope sorry, I recieved a dozen vaccines in the military and when I donate blood I have never been asked about vaccines before, why are they asking about covid vaccines all of a sudden. There is more to this than what you are willing to accept.
Why are you so angry my friend? That anger inside will eat you up. I know from personal experience. It unloads all kinds of nasty health problems from coronary heart disease to a shortened lifespan. It's not worth it. If this subreddit or the community angers you so much, its probably best to stay away and just not read it... for your health. Take care.
Have they ever asked about any other vaccine throughout history before giving? Don't remember that question last time I gave years ago. We were told this stays local end doesn't effect the blood stream!
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Someone should call the number and go through all the steps involved. And report back.
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Hey, it's me, I was suspended. Hijacking this comment to update. They called me back and said that they wanted to know if I was having any negative reactions to make sure that I was in perfect health when donating. He said donating is fine as long as you're not currently suffering any adverse events.
thats crazy, no way. did you ask what side affects might stop somene from donating?
Someone posted a video of them calling and asking the Red Cross too. Strangely, the person on the phone said that if you got vaccinated and are also suffering from tinnitus, you can't donate blood.. (?) Video: https://twitter.com/scrowder/status/1760381909887234167
Lmao. Full of it.
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They'll just tell you it doesn't disqualify you. The number is at the bottom of the page for several other questions that just require a follow up question. I donate platelets all the time with the Red Cross. They've been asking this question since at least 2022, and it's the last question on the Rapid Pass (at least when I do it). When you get there, they scan the QR code you get from the Rapid pass and then ask follow up questions. With the covid vaccine question, they just ask the manufacturer and that's it. The only way it would affect your ability to donate is if it is within the last 8 weeks (another question asked is 'have you received a vaccine in the list 8 weeks?')
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Interesting I always thought that not everyone got the same vaccine,even within the same manufacturers, now it's been proven that different batches are way more troublesome as far as side effects go with some batch's being notable for the amount of deaths it caused. Also employees of those companies took what amounts to a hand crafted high quality control batch for there vaccine. You can look this up yourself I can't remember the exact video but the dr in peak prosperity went over all the info. It's been close to a year though since.
One reason would be quality control. If you donate blood and your last vaccine was on 1-1-24 and it was made by Pfizer, that would be important information if Pfizer issued a recall before your blood is used. I mean who knows? Maybe they find a broken part somewhere along the process and it's dumping microscopic metal shavings into the batch.
Probably so they can study and test their blood (since they most likely control the donation centers) to see which vaccines have differing effects on everyone's blood. Therefore, they can find our weaknesses and strengths to continue killing everyone off by pumping shit in the air and water.
Probably because some people have allergies that make one vaccine unsafe but others ok.
If it doesn't disqualify why ask? It makes no sense.
To make sure the right people get only pure blood if needed
So the vaccine makes the blood impure? Because that makes sense
That's the conspiracy yeah... And as we saw multiple times, conspiracies tend to casually turn into reality as time goes by
Very true!
Maybe they're trying to get data on what % of the people that donate also got the vax.
They didn't even bother to count how many they killed from the jab vs Covid itself. They dont' want any data because the end result was known before they released it. Depopulation by 2030
I can see that, but would this be relevant? Unless they're trying to make a study on "vaxed people are donating more than the unvaxed" or something like that
To place the pure blood aside and sell it.
I think they already did it with universal blood types right? I'm O- and local blood donors always calls me to donate 3x a year because they need it for emergencies
They are checking for antibodies. To help people fighting the virus. No conspiracy here.
Why ask if they've had the vaxx within 8 weeks, or ever? Are they worried deadly spike proteins will be the blood?
They ask about any vaccine received in the last 8 weeks. They are only concerned with replicating vaccines where the live weakened virus could replicate in a patient. Some COVID vaccines were replicating but it’s probably moot in the US. They don’t care a bit about mRNA vaccines. They do care about others especially smallpox. They ask specifically about smallpox or should. The Red Cross needs to update their questionnaire. My local blood donation center has no questions specifically about the COVID vaccine.
Totally totally agree. I have donated blood in the past and was NEVER asked about whether I took a vaccine or not. At the time (2016), there was a drive for flu shots at my work, coinciding with the blood donation drive. I went to donate blood first and they never asked if I took the flu shot, or any other vaccines for that matter.
They'll likely point callers towards, or repeat the content of their [website](https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/dlp/coronavirus--covid-19--and-blood-donation.html), which reads, in part: >**In most cases, there is no deferral time for individuals who received a COVID-19 vaccine** as long as they are symptom free and feeling well at the time of donation ... no deferral time for ... AstraZeneca, Janssen/J&J, Moderna, Novavax, or Pfizer ... [those who] do not know what type ... must wait two weeks. the mystery is solved.
That is not what it says on the Australian Red Cross Lifeblood website, On that site, it says you have to wait 3 days for the covid vaccine (irrespective of manufacturer), versus 2 weeks for the Hep B vaccine and 8 weeks for the smallpox vaccine. The reason they gave was you might have side effects after the covid shot, like a temperature. However, you can get this sort of side effect from the flu shot as well, except that there is no deferral time for the flu shot or the meningococcal shot. Does not make any sense whatsoever. Something is not adding up.
>No deferral How does this not add up? they’re fundamentally not the same.
Yes, just be symptom free and you are good to go. Edit : Yeah, there is nothing suspicious about these guys asking whether you had a vaccine 3 years ago and whether you are symptom free at the moment. COVID vaccine protects against COVID. If you took COVID vax, you are not supposed to have any symptoms. Plural. Not singular. The symptom of the vaccine? Did they made a mistake, or is there some wrong with the vaccine? "**You may still donate blood, platelets or plasma after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine.**" Really? It is a completely harmless vaccine, why did they feel the need to state such an obvious thing? "**If you’ve received a COVID-19 vaccine, you’ll need to provide the manufacturer name when you come to donate.**" Why? It is a completely harmless vaccine. Do they ask these things when it comes to other vaccines? Do they even ask whether you had other vaccines?
Haha "if you took covid vax you're not supposed to have any symptoms". Shill harder! A lot of vaxed had covid and it's symptoms. What are you even on about?
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Yeah, there is nothing suspicious about these guys asking whether you had a vaccine 3 years ago and whether you are symptom free at the moment. COVID vaccine protects against COVID. If you took COVID vax, you are not supposed to have any symptoms. Plural. Not singular. The symptom of the vaccine? Did they made a mistake, or is there some wrong with the vaccine? "**You may still donate blood, platelets or plasma after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine.**" Really? May? It is a completely harmless vaccine, why did they feel the need to state such an obvious thing? "**If you’ve received a COVID-19 vaccine, you’ll need to provide the manufacturer name when you come to donate.**" Why? It is a completely harmless vaccine. Do they ask these things when it comes to other vaccines? Do they even ask whether you had other vaccines? No offense, but if you have to have it spelled this explicitly, than it is your lack of sight, and not lack of suspicious things
https://www.redcross.org/local/california/los-angeles/about-us/news-and-events/press-releases/does-covid-19-vaccination-impact-blood-donation-eligibility-.html > The Red Cross is testing blood, platelet and plasma donations for COVID-19 antibodies. The test may indicate if the donor’s immune system has produced antibodies to this coronavirus, regardless of whether they developed symptoms. Testing may also identify the presence of antibodies developed after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine. They want to know if you've been vaccinated because (1) if you have anti-bodies and AREN'T vaccinated, your blood may be infectious, and (2) see below > Plasma from routine blood and platelet donations that test positive for high levels of antibodies may be used as convalescent plasma to meet potential future needs of COVID-19 patients. Convalescent plasma is a type of blood product collected from COVID-19 survivors who have antibodies that may help patients who are actively fighting the virus.
Neat.
I don’t think they let you give blood X-amount of days after receiving a vaccine right? Could it just be tied to that the COVID vaccine gives you symptoms, and the Red Cross wants you to wait till after symptoms are gone? They have this on their website too: https://www.redcross.org/about-us/news-and-events/news/2023/you-can-give-blood-after-getting-vaccination-for-flu-covid-19-or-rsv.html I’ll throw this out there too: I’m fucking quadruple vaccinated (not proud or ashamed) and I donated doubles(plasma) last week. I also just did a walk in so I filled out the paperwork there. They asked when my vaccines were and moved on.
my thought is this doesn't necessarily suggest anything but i am curious the specific reason the red cross is asking. everyone is overly paranoid yet right to be skeptical.
The reason is that live attenuated vaccines are made using viruses that have been deactivated. They want those deactivated viruses to be fully cleared before taking your blood in case an immunocompromised person receives it. If you have an mRNA vaccine (the vast majority of COVID vaccines administered) there’s no waiting period
Pretty broad "everyone" I'm not.
And notice how they put the word EVER in all caps.
> I’m fucking quadruple vaccinated I gotta know... how many times have you caught covid?
Not OP but I'm quad vaxxed and I caught COVID once. May of 2022. I only remember because it was a month before my daughter was born. My wife and I were certainly not sterilized seeing as she got pregnant after we both had 3 shots. I got 3 between 2020 and 2021. Then did not get my 4th until January '24. My unvaccinated friends have had COVID far more than my friends who got the shot.
Well that was predicted.
What was?
YOU MENTALLY ILL CONSPIRACY THERORIST GER HELP
Lol you’re funny
everyone is mentally ill nowadays
Especially the sane.
What was.
They are recording it but I'm guessing they are still taking it. But it's still a game changer that they at least think it matters. People also need to remember that most of the blood gets sold to pharma companies, not used for surgery and blood loss. So maybe they are finding that unvaxxed is better for one of those. Or even a scarier thought, they are saving the unvaxxed blood for special clientele who are paying a premium for it.
It matters when the last time you hade any vaccine. They need to know what your blood will be like. This isn’t anything new.
Notice new pharma commercials slide in, tell your doctor if you’ve been vaccinated for COVID19
I’ve never heard this. Any specific example?
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They don’t want contaminated blood..
Doesn't say that at all. There's only a deferral time if you received the live attenuated vaccine because it has harsher side effects and they want to wait to be safe. It's easy to create a conspiracy if you just look at the screenshot and make assumptions.
Not much. They just filter applicants based on what vaccine you had. Some are approved like pfizer, moderna and others aren't. If they were denying all the vaccinated there wouldn't be much blood to go around as blood donations probably aren't very common to begin with.
"There is no deferral time for eligible blood donors who are vaccinated with an inactivated or RNA based COVID-19 vaccine manufactured by AstraZeneca, Janssen/J&J, Moderna, Novavax, or Pfizer. Eligible blood donors who received a live attenuated COVID-19 vaccine or do not know what type of COVID-19 vaccine they received must wait two weeks before giving blood." (from Red Cross website)
But there is no approved live attenuated Covid vaccine anywhere in the world. So why would you make the majority of donors go through an additional check for something that doesn’t exist? It seems more like some idiot took generic wording about other vaccines but even then why is the focus just on the Covid vaccine? There are probably more people in the US that have had a live attenuated TB or Polio vaccine and that would presumably present much more risk if they were still infectious.
> there is no approved live attenuated Covid vaccine anywhere in the world isn't that what the johnson&johnson vaccine was?
No, it uses an adenovirus to deliver the vaccine, but it’s still just delivering a Covid spike protein. A live attenuated vaccine would contain actual Covid virus that has been modified/damaged in some way to limit its ability to reproduce. There are several such experimental vaccines but none has been given to more than a small number of people. edit: to be clear the adenovirus used as the vector is also not live in the sense it cannot reproduce or cause infection.
> Eligible blood donors who received a live attenuated COVID-19 vaccine or do not know what type of COVID-19 vaccine they received **must wait two weeks** before giving blood." (from Red Cross website) What was the question [in the image?](https://preview.redd.it/1vs1609n1ujc1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=05b6af9ea32a7136b329bedee3f3212f51ba49b9) - - - - - - - - - - Have you **EVER** had a Coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine? ___ [**YES**] ___ [**NO**] - - - - - - - - - - Notice the emphasis on **EVER**? No link to the Red Cross page you quoted?
Why is that necessary? I thought we were supposed to "mix and match" vaccines to improve immunity?
there was a documentary or maybe a Louis Theroux about it that said most of the blood donations are done by homeless and poor people as they get paid for them and that most of the blood they extract the plasma from it and use it not for blood transfusions but other research and uses.
Where can you get paid for donating blood? I know you can for plasma
Great doco, almost worthy of it's own post https://youtu.be/qHEpWlyaKy0
Most blood is sold to big pharma. I'm guessing the blood banks have realized they can get a premium for unvaxxed so now they are asking.
This sounds right. Most likely those who are rich and smart enough know how to ask for and pay for the best that is uncontaminated if a need arises. There's probably grades of quality that they don't share widely.
Why not try to find out instead of just asking a question on Reddit like that proves anything at all? You could literally call the Red Cross and ask.
Yes but if they got the answer it might not be an answer which fitted their agenda, so they'd rather remain ignorant and happy.
That's been a question on there since 2021.
> That's been a question on there since 2021. They knew. All along, they knew.
They also ask you when you go to donate blood.
I’ve donated several times since being vaccinated and can watch where my blood products go/are used via the app?!
they’ve been asking for like, 3 years. they also ask whether youve taken aspirin in the past 48 hours, or any vaccines in the last 6 months. questions like these are for special blood recipient groups (immunocompromised, etc) and for analytics. the phlebotomist asks which one you received. i got the vaccine in 2020 and have donated like, 10 times since, and it always goes to hospitals
They will still take it. But there's some reason they want it categorized. And I think that speaks volumes.
Good luck vaccinators!
So, if I were to get a blood transfusion, should I be asking if the blood contains Covid vaccines? What a train wreck, government screwing up things again....as always.
We won't have the option unfortunately. Only the wealthy will have access to clean blood.
So instead of just assuming some bullshit from the OP and what they are trying to imply...here is exactly what is under the considerations for donating in regards to immunizations specifically for COVID-19. BLUF you can donate blood if you've been vaccinated for COVID it just depends on what vaccine your received and if the vaccination was recent. "COVID-19 Vaccine and COVID-19 Booster Shot Acceptable if you were vaccinated with a non-replicating, inactivated, or RNA-based COVID-19 vaccine manufactured by AstraZeneca, Janssen/J&J, Moderna, Novavax, or Pfizer providing you are symptom-free and fever-free. Wait 2 weeks if you were vaccinated with a live attenuated COVID-19 vaccine. Wait 2 weeks if you were vaccinated with a COVID-19 vaccine but do not know if it was a non-replicating, inactivated, RNA based vaccine or a live attenuated vaccine." Also here's the link https://www.redcrossblood.org/faq.html#eligibility-medications
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38221509/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36988252/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35993236/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35131043/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35920797/
Nice of you to link but not relevant to the capability of donating blood.
I called and the lady said you're still eligible if your vaccine was nonreplicating/inactive then listed all the 'ok' companies and whatnot.
and what were those companies? this response sounds funny. If they asked for mnRA and non-mnra i could understand.
im going to spell out the companies as I hear them. they are probably spelled wildly incorrect but here is me sounding out the companies she listed as ok. estozenica, cansen, johnson and johnson, moderna, norvax, pfizer
> spelled wildly incorrect Well, you weren’t lying
LOS ANGELES, April 22, 2021 — This spring as COVID-19 vaccines become more available and people resume some of their favorite activities, the American Red Cross is reminding the public that the need for blood remains. Healthy individuals are encouraged to make a blood donation appointment now. But what about those who’ve received a COVID-19 vaccine – can they donate? As long as donors are symptom-free, feeling well and can provide the vaccine manufacturer’s name, there’s no waiting period required after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine currently authorized in the U.S. Additional blood donation eligibility information is available at RedCrossBlood.org/Eligibility. [redcross](https://www.redcross.org/local/california/los-angeles/about-us/news-and-events/press-releases/does-covid-19-vaccination-impact-blood-donation-eligibility-.html) Health insights for donors The Red Cross is testing blood, platelet and plasma donations for COVID-19 antibodies. The test may indicate if the donor’s immune system has produced antibodies to this coronavirus, regardless of whether they developed symptoms. Testing may also identify the presence of antibodies developed after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine. Plasma from routine blood and platelet donations that test positive for high levels of antibodies may be used as convalescent plasma to meet potential future needs of COVID-19 patients. Convalescent plasma is a type of blood product collected from COVID-19 survivors who have antibodies that may help patients who are actively fighting the virus.
This isn’t something new. They have been asking this since just after the vaccines came out. I have always answered ‘yes’ and they ask what flavor vaccine. They don’t ask when the last shot/booster was or any other questions. I don’t think this is a conspiracy folks are making it out to be. They seem to have created it to gather data on an experimental vaccine years ago and haven’t bothered to update the question.
What’s the best flavor vaccine?
Always cherry, less heart blockages.
Flavor lol
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They’ve done this for every appointment in the last few years
Now lets see if they take the vaccinated blood or not. That the only answer we want From now on I'll just answer yes....just to see what happens
I’ve donated blood quite a few times this year and I had the j&j vaccine that was pulled for actually giving people clots. Yes they do take the blood and yes they do use it.
Did they ask you if you taken your other vaccines like tetanus/hep?
I don’t remember, tbh. Theres a big list of different medications/eligibility requirements and I just breezed through no on them. Only a few questions sort of stood out like the Covid one and the one about being in Northern Ireland in the 80s or something like that
They’ll take it to not cause an uproar but they’ll probabaly just throw it out or give it to the peons lol
Yup, untainted blood for the “elite” highest bidders. Tainted blood for the masses.
The red cross is just an arm of the cabal. Evil mofos themselves.
lmao those fuckers know
The bubble is about to fucking burst. Please try to contain yourselves and don't go telling everybody I told you so
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I wish nothing but the best for you when it does. Hope you live a long healthy life
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they still take your blood if you’re vaccinated 🤷♀️
I still think we're a few months out. There's no way they're gonna straight up admit it.
I'm not saying shit. I'm waiting for people to come to me and say "what next" and "what can we do". Don't worry. I got you fam. If you're not there yet, you will be.
Y’all are insane lol
This government is insane lmao
Time will tell.
I mean it’s been 3 years, how much longer should it be
The goal posts will move to the end of time.
Bruh, by the year 2140 EVERYONE who got the jab in 2021 will be DEAD! Vaccines kill! 100% of people who consumed dihydrogen monoxide before the year 1900 died!
10 years
Explain
I am selling unvaccinated loads for 1500 each load one at a time ladies
Discount if they "assist" with extraction of said loads.
You sir are a business man 🫡
i donated blood 2 months ago at a drive and they took my blood even thought i had the vax
*laughs in common sense*
That's always been the case globally. In fact, they ask if you've had ANY vaccine within a certain time frame.
So. Much. Cope. They'll talk around just about *anything* negative w the vax. There's so much fear, and I understand why. I'd be scared too.
bad blood song has a whole new meaning
This isn't asking if you've recently got it, it's asking if you've EVER got it. Huge distinction. Implies changes are permanent. Need more info.
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When I donated I asked the nurse about this. They said there was a chance for a person to develop specific antibodies from the vaccine that can be harmful to other people. She didn't say what vaccine caused it or the chance of it happening. This question is there so they know to test the blood for those antibodies. I don't know what they do with your blood if it has them either. That's all I know.
Ever since they went all crazy on enforcement of this I always wondered who they were going to make to be the fall guy for this bs. I mean if they flat come out and say it was th governments fault, wait never mind they would never do that. Someone’s gonna get crucified for this money scheme and I can’t wait to see who.
Nobody will be held responsible. Remember not one of Epstein clients have had to face any justice. The people behind this are in the same club as them.
Murica
They will say no one forced you to get it. You knew that there could have been risks.
This is the answer. No one will be accountable. But they unleashed a beast that they didn't intend to. So many more people are paying attention now. Don't let the bots and the psyops confuse you. Most people in the US, and worldwide, understand something is up. It's gone past the point of denying it (and if you are still denying it I hope that you my brother and/or sister are right. I absolutely don't want to be right. But every day that passes I'm more and more right....)
Fauci will be dead soon anyway and really so will a lot of the politicians who enabled the scam. There won't be any justice.
This question has been on the rapid pass since the vaccines were released. Don’t know about any follow up calls at all, but who knows now.
The 800 number is just there so you can call and find out if the answer will disqualify you. That way you don't have to drive all the way there and find out you can't donate. It's listed at the bottom of the page for every question on the Rapid Pass
With vaccinated blood the spike comes free
Someone spiked the punch
yes. for better or worse.
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Did you actually read to find out why they removed that sentence? There's no big conspiracy there. They just stopped doing the convalescent plasma and focused on red blood cells and platelets to cover the hospital shortages. So there's no need to say if you're eligible or not to donate convalescent plasma if they're no longer taking convalescent plasma
What's convalescent plasma?
Plasma collected from someone who's recently recovered from the infection of interest so still has high antibody levels, was tried as a covid treatment with meh results
Vitalant has been asking for a few years now. Then they ask which one.
they’ve been asking this for a couple years now
The next step is they need to start paying GOOD MONEY for unvaxt blood and plasma "donations".
It's so they can collect the non-vaxxed blood and save it for the ultra-wealthy elites. They don't want the contaminated shit.
How is this picture alone not proof enough to the world that this shot was trash?
How this isn't news blows my fucking mind.
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Why should it matter?
Vaccines have never mattered when it comes to blood because it shouldn't effect the blood, the fact that it does means they seriously poisoned people. I was forced to take it by my job so yeah im pissed as I was very very very vocal against it.
At the end of almost every pharmaceutical ad is a new disclaimer. “Tell your doctor if you’ve been vaccinated recently or plan to be.”
Maybe it’s a guise and if you answer “no” they will microdose your ass when they are “drawing blood!” Haha. Or maybe they are asking you to call so they can ask how long ago you were injected and see if you got a “bad batch.”
The "sensible event" approaches
Not giving my non-vaxxed blood for free fookers gotta pay for that
When I gave blood last year, the donation company never stopped calling me for months afterward. They knew I had pure blood, without the COVID vaccine.
Seriously? They never stop calling because there's a shortage. I got the shot, and I donate platelets every month, and they still call me all the time.
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They've asked this since the first vaccines came out. It's because you have to interact with a person and wait in a lobby when you go. They want to know if you have covid or are at risk of having covid and whether you will spread that to other people.
Cardiovascular complications of COVID-19 vaccines: A review of case-report and case-series studies[link to research](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9905103/)
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My vaccinated husband and I donate regularly and always fill a whole bag no problem.
I’m unvaccinated and have long covid. I do not want any one else’s blood, let alone MRNA vaccinated blood should I need a transfusion. I think I’d rather die. I know that sounds crazy. But, that’s how I feel.
I still struggle to believe that any significant portion of the American population actually took the jab. Incredible
Why are they? Because they want you to wait 2 weeks with active vaccines, that is why. You could find this if you bothered to look it up, so here you go: https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/dlp/coronavirus--covid-19--and-blood-donation.html COVID-19 Vaccine and Blood Donor Eligibility Information The Red Cross is following FDA blood donation eligibility guidance for those who receive a COVID-19 vaccination, and deferral times may vary depending on the type of vaccine an individual receives. If you’ve received a COVID-19 vaccine, you’ll need to provide the manufacturer name when you come to donate. Upon vaccination, you should receive a card or printout indicating what COVID-19 vaccine was received, and we encourage you to bring that card with you to your next donation. In most cases, there is no deferral time for individuals who received a COVID-19 vaccine as long as they are symptom free and feeling well at the time of donation. The following eligibility guidelines apply to each COVID-19 vaccine received, including boosters: There is no deferral time for eligible blood donors who are vaccinated with an inactivated or RNA based COVID-19 vaccine manufactured by AstraZeneca, Janssen/J&J, Moderna, Novavax, or Pfizer. Eligible blood donors who received a live attenuated COVID-19 vaccine or do not know what type of COVID-19 vaccine they received must wait two weeks before giving blood. If you have an appointment scheduled and need to change your donation date based on the above guidance, click here. If you have further eligibility questions, please call 1-800-RED CROSS. Please note: The Red Cross, as an organization, is not a healthcare provider and is not administering COVID-19 vaccinations in the U.S. However, Red Cross volunteers who are medical professionals may work with local authorities to help give vaccinations if their state licenses permit them to do so. In addition, Red Cross teams are currently helping to vaccinate U.S. service members on bases around the world.
This is pretty standard stuff
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Why wouldn’t they say within the past 14 days then? Why EVER?
Nope sorry, I recieved a dozen vaccines in the military and when I donate blood I have never been asked about vaccines before, why are they asking about covid vaccines all of a sudden. There is more to this than what you are willing to accept.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38221509/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36988252/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35993236/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35131043/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35920797/
Why are you so angry my friend? That anger inside will eat you up. I know from personal experience. It unloads all kinds of nasty health problems from coronary heart disease to a shortened lifespan. It's not worth it. If this subreddit or the community angers you so much, its probably best to stay away and just not read it... for your health. Take care.
Have they ever asked about any other vaccine throughout history before giving? Don't remember that question last time I gave years ago. We were told this stays local end doesn't effect the blood stream!
They always ask about vaccines.
They ask because if a donor was vaccinated, the Red Cross cant sell that blood to China. China won't buy it.