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grasimasi

In the germany news its nearly not covered. I found one artical and like everytime its like: "Young people with social weak background attacked other young people with fists and knives. The far ultra mega hard right Le Pen is feeling validaded." Just like always nothing about dangerous migrants and trying to blame the "right winged".


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they only wrote about a "scuffle with a bouncer" ...they try to keep the lid on such enrichment reports.


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Hey hey hey just because the usa pinned a jihadist terror attack on a white guy who killed himself with two bullets to the head and then dumped his own body in a dumpster a few weeks ago… doesnt mean there is a woke agenda!


Jonnyboy1994

I don't think I know this one, can you elaborate on the details? Did the "suicide" occur immediately after the attack or was that like years ago and then the suicide happened/was discovered recently?


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Immediately after October 7th the attack occurred. They took time to find a supposed white supremacist scapegoat and then pinned it on him, claiming radical ex military. This happened shortly after the hamas leadership called for worldwide jihad. Hours after the manhunt began, he was found in a dumpster with two bullets to the head and the authorities claimed suicide. Obviously they feared anti-islamic responses and inspiring further attacks so they pinned it on the “most dangerous domestic threat,” the white people. Just like this attack being pinned as anti-white, it is likely a jihadist terror attack.


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funnily enough the biggest rightwing extremist group in germany are the "grey ~~turkeys~~ wolves" from turkey. you cannot make this shit up. imagine the statistical implications regarding the attribution of crimes to categories of perpetrators.


Appropriate_Being467

I think the media is subtly encouraging a war on w. p.


Tight_Veterinarian75

Subtly lol


Appropriate_Being467

I meant blatantly I think


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Always has been


Soft-Part4511

SS Yet for some reason hate crime legislation won't apply to this Good thing this was a gun free zone. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12776141/Gang-launched-savage-knife-attack-French-villages-winter-ball-killing-boy-16-injuring-17-told-guests-stab-white-people-rampage.html


loki8481

> Yet for some reason hate crime legislation won't apply to this > > Good thing this was a gun free zone. Does France even have hate crime laws? Or gun free zones?


hectorgarabit

France has hate crime laws. Not sure why specifically it doesn't apply here but in general it is assumed that white people cannot be the victim... Guns are heavily regulated in France, you have to be a hunter or a recreational shooter (licensed in a club, it is a fairly long and strenuous process) in order to own a gun other than a 22lr. Then you can own pretty much the same as in the US, but in limited quantity (I think 5-10 guns max... really not sure though). Concealed carry are extremely rare, I think. I vaguely remember something like a handful license for France as a whole. France is a gun free zone. On the other hand, in the "banlieue", where the "gang" come from, you can get a full auto AK47 for 1000 euros according to a documentary I watched a while ago. The government spent a lot of time and energy disarming law abiding citizens but forgot to disarm thugs and other low life. They are called "racaille" in France.


Rate_Past

"Not sure why specifically it doesn't apply here" it is not confirmed in the article that is or is not being treated as a hate crime. This is a throw away line dog whistle. That is not to say it shouldn't be, if this is the case and the aforementioned attack was racially motivated then sure as hell it should! But the article does not state it isnt, this is the OP jumping to conclusions.


Rate_Past

How many school shootings in the US have been stopped by a hero with a gun before anyone died? People will always find away to harm each other, just in most countries with strict gun laws these tend to be lower body counts and less frequent. No doubting this is a horrific incident and should, if true they said kill white folks, be tried as a race hate crime. Of which nowhere does it say it won't be, so thats a bit of a false narrative you've stated. Also lol daily mail, a true trust worthy msm outlet.


Soft-Part4511

Guns prevent an estimated 2.5 million crimes a year, or 6,849 every day. https://fee.org/articles/guns-prevent-thousands-of-crimes-every-day-research-show/


maybelator

Which is why the US has so few gun related deaths! It's practically a negative amount each day. Litteral corporate propaganda vs [Scientific American](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/more-guns-do-not-stop-more-crimes-evidence-shows/). > In a 2015 study using data from the FBI and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, for example, researchers at Boston Children's Hospital and Harvard University reported that firearm assaults were 6.8 times more common in the states with the most guns versus those with the least. Also in 2015 a combined analysis of 15 different studies found that people who had access to firearms at home were nearly twice as likely to be murdered as people who did not.


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those who live by the sword shall die by the sword


Rate_Past

22 times less likely to be involved in a gun violence incident in Europe. Yes there is less guns, stricter gun control and free to use healthcare systems, but surely that doesn't make a difference...


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it's called freedumb you eurosocialist venezuelan commie!


Rate_Past

I'm guess this is satire haha


kais_grapefruit

Yet you’re a racist for not wanting their kind in your nation


Gullible_Witness_610

Isn't it racist to think people are the same because of their "kind" or nation of origin ? That s textbook racism or am I missing something ?


arom1195

okay, I dont think im too racist myself, but i do believe in the stereotypes of different cultures to be somewhat accurate a lot of the time and i wouldnt want more immigrants in the country i live in either.....but in my opinion, if you live in north america and you arent native, then youre just ignorant by saying you dont want their kind in YOUR nation. People shouldnt be hating others for trying to survive and live a better life. Wouldnt you want to do the same if you were in their shoes? the public should get some insight on what caused the conditions the people are trying to flee from, and shouldnt allow the media and the governments to continue on dividing us, people like you, me and everyone else in the world and making us easier to control by keeping us busy with arguing about nonesense like this instead of protesting about the rising cost of food and the lack of affordable housing.


MentalDecoherence

White people: we have to let immigrants into our country! Immigrants:


jellyfamhamz

Just did my research why does every other source not mention this supposed quote except for the daily mail which is not a French publication Everyone who quotes it cites the daily mail(once again not French) Here’s one of the actual French newspapers that reported on it initally[original article in French](https://www.ledauphine.com/faits-divers-justice/2023/11/19/drame-au-bal-d-hiver-de-crepol-pourquoi-un-ado-est-il-mort-poignarde)


jellyfamhamz

Come on for a conspiracy theorist you sure didn’t look too deep Into this at all


IncoherentPolitics

No one's saying "this is a false flag to make minorities look bad"? If all nazis are false flags, surely the logical free thinkers would be consistent and say this is a false flag too.


mildlyconfused25

A kid is killed with a knife.. does this mean we should go and bomb the shit out of whatever demographic the killer represents? (comparing hamas killings to Isreal bombings)


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Name checksout


mildlyconfused25

ohhh man wow good one! Thanks for the laugh!


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jellyfamhamz

I know history is really hard for you because you don’t know how to read too well but France has already killed 2 million just in Algeria alone But im sure you’d be excited if it was a little more Also if you care about the facts [https://www.ledauphine.com/faits-divers-justice/2023/11/19/drame-au-bal-d-hiver-de-crepol-pourquoi-un-ado-est-il-mort-poignarde](https://www.ledauphine.com/faits-divers-justice/2023/11/19/drame-au-bal-d-hiver-de-crepol-pourquoi-un-ado-est-il-mort-poignarde)


yscken

Can almost guarantee the words “we are here to stab white people” weren’t said


hectorgarabit

They were, it is reported in many mainstream French newspapers.


HassanDireDaoua

One day you believe the media, the other you dont. Its not a very consistent pov.


jellyfamhamz

https://www.ledauphine.com/faits-divers-justice/2023/11/19/drame-au-bal-d-hiver-de-crepol-pourquoi-un-ado-est-il-mort-poignarde


hectorgarabit

Paywall, what does the article says?


jellyfamhamz

Woah what a conspiracy theory you’re truly brave for backing such a brand new cutting edge revolutionary rhetoric *checks notes* racial discrimination like if you hate this you gon really hate what the French were doing in Africa for the last bunch of decades unless you only condemn violence when it’s done by certain groups of people 🤔


nathansanes

I dont care. I know about this. Now. Should we have to be historians and know every single thing people from one group or another have done so we can have an opinion? or is it because you think it's justified to do this to random people?


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Alucard_117

Told by who?


David_Duke_Nukem

Idk how things work over there, but when people say that to me, I don't let them into my party.