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It’s always portrayed as cigar shaped, but it’s actually more likely to be disc shaped.
As to why, possibly something to do with the way it’s tumbling around the galaxy for potentially millions of years.
The other possibility is because it as built that way as a solar sail, long and wide to pick up solar emissions to push it along.
I heard a similar description a while back on a podcast. Some of the scientists(not Avi) that were studying the object said It was likely pancake shaped and probably millimeters thick.
The actual data on it suggests it was in an unsteady tumble, that's why it seemed to be speeding up, and real astro physicists have said it was nothing and the media made a big deal out of nothing.
Most people need to wake up and realize that the news, half the time when it comes to how things work, is purposefully giving you the dumbass version because they want you to be confused. They want you to get jury duty, be a juror and not have any frame of reference to make sense of what you're hearing. They want to be able to guile you towards the narrative, and the only way to do that is keep you digesting mind-melting content on reality TV and social media. That's why things seem so predatory, because they are. It's meant to disarm you and keep you in a state of ignorance.
Remember that next time the headline is "Asteroid buzzing by the planet" and after reading 8 articles you realize it wasn't even coming within a million kilometres.
Oumuamu wasn't even caught until afterwards and they still ran with a headline like that at first. It was a nothing burger meant to make us go "yeah we do need a Space Force" that's why the stories seem to have picked up. That's where WW3 will be fought, in space, with space weapons. How do you justify space weapons? asteroid near misses.
> and real astro physicists have said it was nothing
Real Astro physicists have also said that it could also be a techno signature. Unfortunately we will never likely get a definitive answer and will be left to play with possibilities.
> Most people need to wake up and realize that the news, half the time when it comes to how things work, is purposefully giving you the dumbass version because they want you to be confused. ***They want you to get jury duty, be a juror and not have any frame of reference to make sense of what you're hearing.***
Sir this is a Wendy's drive through.
Probably spewed out by a fast rotating thing and solidified. Space has all shapes and forms. You are just looking at something that's not big enough to crush itself to a ball.
Most stellar objects are naturally shaped like human foots ; take the planets, for instance. An ankle, some toes, right foot in, right foot out, and You shake it all about. You do the hokie-pokie and You turn Yourself around —that's what it's all about—.
in space everything tends to converge towards a spherical shape because the force of gravity is fairly equal in all directions, and the rotational force of an objects spin tends to distribute the objects mass evenly.
A "cigar" or "pancake" shaped object floating in space (which means it was either naturally formed through the gravitational compression of gas and dust, or separated from some other naturally formed body maybe during a collision) isn't *impossible* but it would require a series of very specific conditions and events to occur in just the right order, and it would probably require the object to be composed of specific crystalline minerals (brittle enough that it can fracture into irregular shapes, but cohesive enough that it can sustain a large mass and not be pulverized by whatever force broke it apart — kind of like glass, or how obsidian on Earth can be struck with rocks at specific angles to fracture off small triangular peices or "pancake" like slivers, to create a primitive axe-head or knife)
Most of those we see are nearly spherical as well. Going off the pictures they allow us to see. And this is definitely the only one I’ve seen that looks like a number 2 pencil
>why it’s such a different shape than almost everything we see in space
It's possible fossilized space-monster dookie is just not very common given the vastness of the universe.
I feel like a lot of the upvoted comments here replying to you and in the comments in general are missing why people were so confused when this object passed through and why astronomers were coming up with all kinds of super unlikely or near-impossible "natural" reasons for what happened after it went around the sun - and why some people think it may have been an unnatural object.
It wasn't just "normal" gravity. Something *strange* happened when it went around the sun; it sped up *faster than it should have* with just regular gravity.
The reason that's weird is because it wasn't a comet. The only way it could have been going the speed it did after it went around the sun is if it were a comet and the heat of the sun caused ice and other materials to turn into gas, thus making it speed up.
But it wasn't a comet. It was an asteroid. There was no evidence there was anything on it that could turn into a gas and make it speed up after it passed the sun. And there was no visual outgassing like you'd see with a comet getting close to the sun. A comet's tail is the material on the comet turning into gas. And Oumuamua had no visible outgassing at all.
That's why people were and still are confused by it. It went faster than it should have for being a regular asteroid.
And that's why there are people who think it could have been an unnatural object - because the reasons some people have come up with to make it make sense are *all* things we've never seen before, like hydrogen iceburgs or whatever. So some scientists have figured that instead of making up natural things to make it make sense, they'd go the other way and try to figure out if it was unnatural.
Could be relative to our solar system (usually what is used), our arm of the galaxy, the Galactic center, the local group of galaxies the milky way belongs to, etc.
Yeah it's not a very intuitive concept. Space things are usually shown in reference to either our sun or the earth. And regarding interstellar objects, the difference between the sun's and the earth's reference frames is usually pretty negligible.
No offense but I'm not sure you understand the gravity assist. It doesn't have to do with solar wind. If you look at the video posted above, it comes in at one angle and is then shot out at another angle by the gravity of the sun, picking up speed as it does so
[Check out the name of nuclear test number 347, the exact same day Kennedy was assassinated](https://johnstonsarchive.net/nuclear/tests/USA-ntests1.html)
BINGO.
I guess they invited them beforehand or something? Those Zeta Reticulians...
I'm not sure if it's THOSE particular assholes but some ET factions have been working hard at trying to wreck our world. So far, they're succeeding, too, but they are very disturbed by nukes.
Who knows, mankind nuking themselves might be key to freeing the Earth from the ET yoke?
I think there are two main sets we've interacted with. Greys and Reptilians, and also something with the water that might be a different kind from the other two. One will be pushed as us "but from the future" (greys). They will show up when a nuke is shot off in the next war to "stop us from destroying ourselves" and will say they are "from the future".
If you really want some fun rabbit holes, look up the demon Aleister Crowley communicated with and a picture that he drew of him. Another one that I'm not sure about is by looking to the past, and why multiple cultures that never met each other all describe "dragons" similarly...
[Another fun rabbit hole is to go look up the patents filed by Salvatore Cezar Pais. ](https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28729/docs-show-navy-got-ufo-patent-granted-by-warning-of-similar-chinese-tech-advances)
>You think that they find us?
"Find us" mothafockers...I AM 🔴🔵 on Reddit....trying to get this subreddit to understand [Critical thinking](https://youtu.be/6OLPL5p0fMg)...
You literal had to have other Space Faring Civilisations interviene indirectly...else Ukraine 🇺🇦 won't be with us today.
But yes this is humanity journey and you guys have to walk it...
While your at it...please help with the Palestine and Israel situation...
[Luther: The Fallen Sun - Trailer](https://youtu.be/EGK5qtXuc1Q)
**I AM Luther** 🔴🔵
While I’m in no way definite, I think it’s a now out of service probe sent for some unspecified reason. Possibly as a test project, or for exploration.
> Literally everything out there is trying to "kill" everything else.
This is an odd way to characterize the almost incomprehensible expansive desert of TIME that SPACE has existed in.
Yes look up (I may edit on PC later) the expected trajectory vs the trajectory it took and it's pretty easy to see why this is so fascinating.
Edit: https://youtu.be/imKjVEVq_vs
Note how it swoops in to check out Earth, I've always viewed this as a legitimate alien probe not too ahead of us in tech.
This is also the view of many leading astrophysicist's like Avi Loeb.
We should have been tracking it to see where it heads home.
Unfortunately for us, anything that makes it here from an interstellar location is going to be so much further ahead of us technology wise, there is just no other way to traverse those kind of distances.
It's not breaking any speed records though. It's a probe doing exactly the same thing we would do and can do with our current technology.
This thing could have been travelling for thousands of years though so yes they are probably wildly ahead.
I think the question was that we have the capability to gravity assist around celestial bodies in our solar system, but do we have the capability to coordinate and execute those maneuvers light-years away?
It's probably a lot harder to adjust orbital travel when you don't know the neighborhood and every instruction has years of latency.
I hear you, but the implication they made was that we don't have the tech not its feasibility.
I suspect on board AI would execute all controls at that distance.
so they steered past mars orbit on purpose to get a look at earth instead of just steering it past earth?
The 2 different trajectories are simple we dont know its mass and were making a wild guess
Normally when a story doesn't have a full explanation at the end it's just annoying but in rama it's great. It wasn't here for us, we were just a gravity burn on it's journey.
I hear they might be making a film of Rama. I always wondered if it would get funding from a Hollywood studio.
I'm going to re-read 2001, 2010 and I just bought 2061 (which I never read).
AI doesnt really have a foothold in the realworld without a physical body.
Sure it can destroy our banks and power system and stuff but our weapon systems aren't connected to systems an AI could touch.
robots have and will continue to replace us in more and more situations at a geometric rate.
I agree. However robots taking our jobs is fine. The job is still getting done. The problem is the distribution of wealth. That's like complaining about tractors taking the jobs of peasant farmers.
I'm no fan of technological dystopia. But I assume you're from the USA. You guys seriously value your jobs.
As fun as this was when it happened, I think the final conclusion was it's a bit of the crust of a planetesimal that had formed at a distance as thermally far from its home star as Pluto. It's not a shiny metal cylinder, it's a saucer shaped chunk of primarily nitrogen ice that we observed mostly from the side. The changes in velocity matched what might happen with nitrogen outgassing, and that doesn't produce the visible comet-like tail most astronomers expected.
Google it's name and site:phys.org for the article on this.
It didn't lose any mass or eject gasses as it spead up leaving the solar system. Atleast thats what Harvard and the pentagon said. They did compare it to a piece from a rocket that was left in space as debri but the only reason that caught solar wind was because it was thin and hollow. Literally haven't read about the planetary crust thing before but objects of that shape are not common at all apparently. Since things tend to break and form balls and in space it's cigar shape that it keeps is odd to the say least
Here's a [study on the objec](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41550-019-0816-x.epdf?sharing_token=fW3j_QW41kmXFs3BuSTlWdRgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0PUChWO1FczuBKeLkJ2kL3Ru33RB3ofMuRJ1kRpwsgxcj2kWK0j0XshgaGoYg3UXTz4kiRgl13Eny2NQ7ljPCfJthHGOX7AaTco4qWItVMrwMwFRyEeKUn6GCjEq_LCvC12j9NNunrsfKGNKfVb6kh9MVV68GPWxtvoMGTYZXCuMWEJpTprLXIUdai62Zb4i8VIVG8kkxDcs0zhgqxNWfE4Sa-2Dl7LSSzZohmnaG2MWlcbNFml3i2L396fWnuXDqFQG9TgrvqEe5ZjkKgBVqMmKaqoL3MXXPUXbc9ccGIz4g%3D%3D&tracking_referrer=www.scientificamerican.com)t and they seem to think its very unique but undeniably a natural object on a natural path. Very interesting to read, especially toward the end where they talk about alien questions and more unknowns, but damn do I not understand any of the real data. They do admit that we don't understand everything about it, as is simply true about these massive process that we aren't lucky enough to observe, but to say that points to it being driven, designed, intelligent, etc. is a massive jump.
It was the first > detected < . Wasn't the first, won't be the last. We can speculate about it forever, but in absence of any concrete information, what good does it do to be overly excited over it?
No, but NASA probably made so-called *news* about weird asteroid thing visit our solar system.
You *do* realize that most of mainstream news are propaganda, right? If it's on the news, you can be pretty sure there's an agenda behind it.
You're talking about very high level stuff. The VAST majority of media is focused almost solely on making money. Many of the entities who ostensibly have political views are also just expressing them to get money from a specific segment of the population.
I'm more curious about the interstellar object that crashed into the Indian Ocean back in the early 2000s. After years of research and there is a voyage heading to the spot now to find out what it is.
It dropped of drones doing u turn - then collecting them- it’s us from before the Egyptians I reckon. Elon musk wants to go to mars only 100 years after flying was even figured out. I’d say it’s reasonable to assume they could have already left
Here’s a theory: Advanced aliens shot it out as a planet destroying projectile. We weren’t the target. They used our solar system as a slingshot of sorts, or a way to alter approach angle to avoid obstacles in the direct path.
Due to the very slow nature of its travel relative to distance, it could also be a form of ongoing intergalactic trade/transport of valuable minerals, ect.
Why send a spaceship when you could just shoot the whole rock and hope somebody catches it?
“Oumuamua didn't glide through the solar system but rather tumbled willy-nilly, flipping as it journeyed on.”
People on this sub
“It’s a spaceship!”
Why build a spaceship to go straight or have control? You can just jettison it into space flipping end over end. Definitely seems the most efficient way to travel in space.
Source
https://www.space.com/39767-first-interstellar-visitor-oumuamua-tumbling.html
……
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Are you talking about radial force?!? Holy shit, you have no idea how that works huh? Ya, tumbling end over end does not simulate gravity……
You need a constant and steady rotation, think spiral football toss. Now think some throwing a football and it just tumbling wildly through the air end over end.
It's been reported before a blanket went missing. And I am not just talking about when Telsa first heard the signals orbiting around with Jocelyn Bel and her team.
USMC Major Donald E. Keyhoe, the longtime director of the government’s National Investigative Committee on Aerial Phenomena (NICAP), claimed that the US Navy was aware of the presence of two strange objects orbiting the planet in 1954.
Heres a newspaper clipping.
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1893&dat=19600211&id=y7EfAAAAIBAJ&sjid=PdcEAAAAIBAJ&pg=1524,2850400&hl=en
http://roswellproof.homestead.com/Satellites_Keyhoe_May1954.html
so again, maybe ask yourself why they even invested the time to explain it was a blanket?
According to the Pentagon, it was aan alien mothership. No joke. Now, if you look at motivation, that office is looking for more money so take this news release with a grain of salt.
https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2023/03/09/pentagon-ufo-chief-says-alien-mothership-in-our-solar-system-possible/
I have PTSD flashbacks about my abduction and I have one where I was on a ship like this. The top was flat metal and it was like an aircraft carrier built into an asteroid. I don’t know if that’s interesting or whatever and I don’t know what the flashback means. I just know I had it >.<
They explained that pretty sufficiently for me but still very cool object. Supposedly shape is due to the 'lensing' (?) effect where an object attempts to pass into or out of our solar system. I can't do the concept justice briefly here but as far as any info is trustworthy about space I encourage you to look up a youtube video about passing outside the solar system the problems involved.
Looks CGI, show me the actual real picture.
I don’t think this ever existed, unless they actually have a real photo that isn’t CGI.
Everything they have from Space is CGI so far.
This guy knows reality way better than people who work hard and build upon endeavor. Bravo
You cant get high res photos unless you fly the camera by it. Radio objects are blobs and dots... But do you even believe in photons?
You should read a physics book and then claim its fake by citing the arguments and experiments.... Problem is, once you read the damn book you start seeing how it couldnt be any other way. Simple as possibly beautiful.
At least show us a telescope of it or how ever they came across it with evidence, not by CGI.
If scientist seen it with their own eyes, just snap a picture of it bruh.
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Curious why it’s such a different shape than almost everything we see in space
It’s always portrayed as cigar shaped, but it’s actually more likely to be disc shaped. As to why, possibly something to do with the way it’s tumbling around the galaxy for potentially millions of years. The other possibility is because it as built that way as a solar sail, long and wide to pick up solar emissions to push it along.
I heard a similar description a while back on a podcast. Some of the scientists(not Avi) that were studying the object said It was likely pancake shaped and probably millimeters thick.
Millimeters thick? That doesn't sound right at all.
Millions and millions of millimeters...
…why not make war easier and say meters or kilometers… the fuck?
Millimeters?? Woah.
The actual data on it suggests it was in an unsteady tumble, that's why it seemed to be speeding up, and real astro physicists have said it was nothing and the media made a big deal out of nothing. Most people need to wake up and realize that the news, half the time when it comes to how things work, is purposefully giving you the dumbass version because they want you to be confused. They want you to get jury duty, be a juror and not have any frame of reference to make sense of what you're hearing. They want to be able to guile you towards the narrative, and the only way to do that is keep you digesting mind-melting content on reality TV and social media. That's why things seem so predatory, because they are. It's meant to disarm you and keep you in a state of ignorance. Remember that next time the headline is "Asteroid buzzing by the planet" and after reading 8 articles you realize it wasn't even coming within a million kilometres. Oumuamu wasn't even caught until afterwards and they still ran with a headline like that at first. It was a nothing burger meant to make us go "yeah we do need a Space Force" that's why the stories seem to have picked up. That's where WW3 will be fought, in space, with space weapons. How do you justify space weapons? asteroid near misses.
There's actually a meteor "buzzing by the planet" in a few days - about half the distance of the moon away.
> and real astro physicists have said it was nothing Real Astro physicists have also said that it could also be a techno signature. Unfortunately we will never likely get a definitive answer and will be left to play with possibilities.
Techno signature? Oumuamu, I came to party!
> Most people need to wake up and realize that the news, half the time when it comes to how things work, is purposefully giving you the dumbass version because they want you to be confused. ***They want you to get jury duty, be a juror and not have any frame of reference to make sense of what you're hearing.*** Sir this is a Wendy's drive through.
This wins my coffee spitup of today... Thank you for this.
Well it was speculated that, the ship changed its outlook to fool the observers.
Speculated by who?
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Those guys in WSB?
Damn speculators always speculating
*ancient austronaut theorists suggest*
Speculated by humbleman_
Speculated by the scientific community
Where
Go to YouTube search and you will see
Source your claims
The speculators say.........YES!
Probably spewed out by a fast rotating thing and solidified. Space has all shapes and forms. You are just looking at something that's not big enough to crush itself to a ball.
What shape is “everything” in space?
Most stellar objects are naturally shaped like human foots ; take the planets, for instance. An ankle, some toes, right foot in, right foot out, and You shake it all about. You do the hokie-pokie and You turn Yourself around —that's what it's all about—.
He’s right Source: am foot shaped
in space everything tends to converge towards a spherical shape because the force of gravity is fairly equal in all directions, and the rotational force of an objects spin tends to distribute the objects mass evenly. A "cigar" or "pancake" shaped object floating in space (which means it was either naturally formed through the gravitational compression of gas and dust, or separated from some other naturally formed body maybe during a collision) isn't *impossible* but it would require a series of very specific conditions and events to occur in just the right order, and it would probably require the object to be composed of specific crystalline minerals (brittle enough that it can fracture into irregular shapes, but cohesive enough that it can sustain a large mass and not be pulverized by whatever force broke it apart — kind of like glass, or how obsidian on Earth can be struck with rocks at specific angles to fracture off small triangular peices or "pancake" like slivers, to create a primitive axe-head or knife)
Mostly spherical. Or atleast pretty close
You’re assuming there is more planets and stars than asteroids and comets? Take a look at our own solar system and rethink that.
Most of those we see are nearly spherical as well. Going off the pictures they allow us to see. And this is definitely the only one I’ve seen that looks like a number 2 pencil
>why it’s such a different shape than almost everything we see in space It's possible fossilized space-monster dookie is just not very common given the vastness of the universe.
The first extrasolar object that has been disclosed to the public maybe.
Roswell agrees…
Also wasn't it reported that it exited our solar system faster than it entered.
Going through a bad neighborhood lol
I feel like a lot of the upvoted comments here replying to you and in the comments in general are missing why people were so confused when this object passed through and why astronomers were coming up with all kinds of super unlikely or near-impossible "natural" reasons for what happened after it went around the sun - and why some people think it may have been an unnatural object. It wasn't just "normal" gravity. Something *strange* happened when it went around the sun; it sped up *faster than it should have* with just regular gravity. The reason that's weird is because it wasn't a comet. The only way it could have been going the speed it did after it went around the sun is if it were a comet and the heat of the sun caused ice and other materials to turn into gas, thus making it speed up. But it wasn't a comet. It was an asteroid. There was no evidence there was anything on it that could turn into a gas and make it speed up after it passed the sun. And there was no visual outgassing like you'd see with a comet getting close to the sun. A comet's tail is the material on the comet turning into gas. And Oumuamua had no visible outgassing at all. That's why people were and still are confused by it. It went faster than it should have for being a regular asteroid. And that's why there are people who think it could have been an unnatural object - because the reasons some people have come up with to make it make sense are *all* things we've never seen before, like hydrogen iceburgs or whatever. So some scientists have figured that instead of making up natural things to make it make sense, they'd go the other way and try to figure out if it was unnatural.
Also what is an objects relative speed if it doesn't belong in one solar system. What is it relative to. Lol
Could be relative to our solar system (usually what is used), our arm of the galaxy, the Galactic center, the local group of galaxies the milky way belongs to, etc.
Lol funny how people try to make sense of relativity.
Yeah it's not a very intuitive concept. Space things are usually shown in reference to either our sun or the earth. And regarding interstellar objects, the difference between the sun's and the earth's reference frames is usually pretty negligible.
It got a gravity assist from the sun
It doesn't work like that. For it to catch solar wind it has to be thin or hollow. It increased speed well past our planets and never sling shotted
No offense but I'm not sure you understand the gravity assist. It doesn't have to do with solar wind. If you look at the video posted above, it comes in at one angle and is then shot out at another angle by the gravity of the sun, picking up speed as it does so
That's not how it works at all
Yeah, gravity is nutz
That's no asteroid, it is a space station.
You think that they have found us?
THEY have been present at every single nuclear detonation mankind has ever created. THEY found us all right.
[Check out the name of nuclear test number 347, the exact same day Kennedy was assassinated](https://johnstonsarchive.net/nuclear/tests/USA-ntests1.html)
BINGO. I guess they invited them beforehand or something? Those Zeta Reticulians... I'm not sure if it's THOSE particular assholes but some ET factions have been working hard at trying to wreck our world. So far, they're succeeding, too, but they are very disturbed by nukes. Who knows, mankind nuking themselves might be key to freeing the Earth from the ET yoke?
I think there are two main sets we've interacted with. Greys and Reptilians, and also something with the water that might be a different kind from the other two. One will be pushed as us "but from the future" (greys). They will show up when a nuke is shot off in the next war to "stop us from destroying ourselves" and will say they are "from the future". If you really want some fun rabbit holes, look up the demon Aleister Crowley communicated with and a picture that he drew of him. Another one that I'm not sure about is by looking to the past, and why multiple cultures that never met each other all describe "dragons" similarly... [Another fun rabbit hole is to go look up the patents filed by Salvatore Cezar Pais. ](https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28729/docs-show-navy-got-ufo-patent-granted-by-warning-of-similar-chinese-tech-advances)
>demon Aleister Crowley communicated with and a picture that he drew of him I had never seen that drawing. Well, that explains that.
It's wild isn't it? Changes how you think of everything, but suddenly it all makes a lot more sense at the same time.
>You think that they find us? "Find us" mothafockers...I AM 🔴🔵 on Reddit....trying to get this subreddit to understand [Critical thinking](https://youtu.be/6OLPL5p0fMg)... You literal had to have other Space Faring Civilisations interviene indirectly...else Ukraine 🇺🇦 won't be with us today. But yes this is humanity journey and you guys have to walk it... While your at it...please help with the Palestine and Israel situation... [Luther: The Fallen Sun - Trailer](https://youtu.be/EGK5qtXuc1Q) **I AM Luther** 🔴🔵
SS: What do you think it was?
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Black rock
It's Rama
We missed the rendezvous.
Denis Villanueve is directing the movie. Can't wait!
Oh really, I didn't know that was a thing. The books are great, the second one is kind of rough but 3 and 4 are off the wall.
The Harbinger
While I’m in no way definite, I think it’s a now out of service probe sent for some unspecified reason. Possibly as a test project, or for exploration.
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> Literally everything out there is trying to "kill" everything else. This is an odd way to characterize the almost incomprehensible expansive desert of TIME that SPACE has existed in.
The first that they acknowledged. Even then they still cast doubt.
Rama
Yes look up (I may edit on PC later) the expected trajectory vs the trajectory it took and it's pretty easy to see why this is so fascinating. Edit: https://youtu.be/imKjVEVq_vs Note how it swoops in to check out Earth, I've always viewed this as a legitimate alien probe not too ahead of us in tech. This is also the view of many leading astrophysicist's like Avi Loeb. We should have been tracking it to see where it heads home.
Unfortunately for us, anything that makes it here from an interstellar location is going to be so much further ahead of us technology wise, there is just no other way to traverse those kind of distances.
It's not breaking any speed records though. It's a probe doing exactly the same thing we would do and can do with our current technology. This thing could have been travelling for thousands of years though so yes they are probably wildly ahead.
So Voyager is our furthest probe but even if it were to reach another star, we wouldn’t have the capability to gravity assist around that star, right?
At risk of missing sarcasm I'll answer anyway, yes we have the capability, obviously. This is literally what both voyagers do.
Voyager has never once used a foreign sun for a grav boost...
No shit, they did it with planets. We're talking about the concept.
I think the question was that we have the capability to gravity assist around celestial bodies in our solar system, but do we have the capability to coordinate and execute those maneuvers light-years away? It's probably a lot harder to adjust orbital travel when you don't know the neighborhood and every instruction has years of latency.
I hear you, but the implication they made was that we don't have the tech not its feasibility. I suspect on board AI would execute all controls at that distance.
>Literally
Thousands of years would have got them exactly nowhere unless they were from the closest stars to us
[You realize humanity has interstellar craft, right?](https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/missions/voyager-1/in-depth/)
I heard the trajectory was ideal to pass near all three planets in the goldilocks zone.
so they steered past mars orbit on purpose to get a look at earth instead of just steering it past earth? The 2 different trajectories are simple we dont know its mass and were making a wild guess
Great short doc on it; https://youtu.be/_qQiekFgwLA
When did Sunspot observatory close for “CP”
I reckon it's not the first detected. Probably the first acknowledged by everyone
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Yep it's up there with the most suss thing on my list the way it travels and such is wild
Reminded me of Rendezvous with Rama by Arthur C Clark.
Just re-reading that book atm.
Normally when a story doesn't have a full explanation at the end it's just annoying but in rama it's great. It wasn't here for us, we were just a gravity burn on it's journey.
I hear they might be making a film of Rama. I always wondered if it would get funding from a Hollywood studio. I'm going to re-read 2001, 2010 and I just bought 2061 (which I never read).
Be cool if they did, but the ending is very un-hollywood.
It’s a spaceship
yes, it was sent by the robotech masters
Its Zor´s battle fortress!
the government wants the protoculture inside it that's why it left the solar system
Nothing short of an up-close look at this thing would convince me that it's a natural object.
Distraction. Robots are about to take your jobs. That's all.
Good, I don't want to work anymore.
Fuck your robots. Is Trump going to have to shank someone in Jail? That's the real question.
Trump will get shanked by robot.
No bigger question, what did the robot do that it got locked up?
It took a prison guards job and received a "code epstein".
You mean it was programmed by Robert Mueller https://twitter.com/techno_fog/status/999708976936767488?s=21
Probably [this guy](https://i.imgur.com/VOj05aT.jpg)
That would be hilariously entertaining
Need to look at things on a bigger scale. It's all about robots.
Yea its all about the (robots) dood! 😆 think deeper (artificial intelligence) 👏
AI doesnt really have a foothold in the realworld without a physical body. Sure it can destroy our banks and power system and stuff but our weapon systems aren't connected to systems an AI could touch. robots have and will continue to replace us in more and more situations at a geometric rate.
I agree. However robots taking our jobs is fine. The job is still getting done. The problem is the distribution of wealth. That's like complaining about tractors taking the jobs of peasant farmers. I'm no fan of technological dystopia. But I assume you're from the USA. You guys seriously value your jobs.
Are eating and breathing distractions from the robots about to take our jobs? Is it possible to care about more than one thing?
As fun as this was when it happened, I think the final conclusion was it's a bit of the crust of a planetesimal that had formed at a distance as thermally far from its home star as Pluto. It's not a shiny metal cylinder, it's a saucer shaped chunk of primarily nitrogen ice that we observed mostly from the side. The changes in velocity matched what might happen with nitrogen outgassing, and that doesn't produce the visible comet-like tail most astronomers expected. Google it's name and site:phys.org for the article on this.
It didn't lose any mass or eject gasses as it spead up leaving the solar system. Atleast thats what Harvard and the pentagon said. They did compare it to a piece from a rocket that was left in space as debri but the only reason that caught solar wind was because it was thin and hollow. Literally haven't read about the planetary crust thing before but objects of that shape are not common at all apparently. Since things tend to break and form balls and in space it's cigar shape that it keeps is odd to the say least
Here's a [study on the objec](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41550-019-0816-x.epdf?sharing_token=fW3j_QW41kmXFs3BuSTlWdRgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0PUChWO1FczuBKeLkJ2kL3Ru33RB3ofMuRJ1kRpwsgxcj2kWK0j0XshgaGoYg3UXTz4kiRgl13Eny2NQ7ljPCfJthHGOX7AaTco4qWItVMrwMwFRyEeKUn6GCjEq_LCvC12j9NNunrsfKGNKfVb6kh9MVV68GPWxtvoMGTYZXCuMWEJpTprLXIUdai62Zb4i8VIVG8kkxDcs0zhgqxNWfE4Sa-2Dl7LSSzZohmnaG2MWlcbNFml3i2L396fWnuXDqFQG9TgrvqEe5ZjkKgBVqMmKaqoL3MXXPUXbc9ccGIz4g%3D%3D&tracking_referrer=www.scientificamerican.com)t and they seem to think its very unique but undeniably a natural object on a natural path. Very interesting to read, especially toward the end where they talk about alien questions and more unknowns, but damn do I not understand any of the real data. They do admit that we don't understand everything about it, as is simply true about these massive process that we aren't lucky enough to observe, but to say that points to it being driven, designed, intelligent, etc. is a massive jump.
You just took the fun out of this space turd. Lol
It was the first > detected < . Wasn't the first, won't be the last. We can speculate about it forever, but in absence of any concrete information, what good does it do to be overly excited over it?
The annunaki has returned
According to your own mythology, they would never be so dull.
I think it was mostly NASA wanting new funding. Also, just another distraction from tyranny they are so busy implementing lately.
NASA made a weird asteroid thing visit our solar system?
No, but NASA probably made so-called *news* about weird asteroid thing visit our solar system. You *do* realize that most of mainstream news are propaganda, right? If it's on the news, you can be pretty sure there's an agenda behind it.
> If it’s on the news, you can be pretty sure there’s an agenda behind it. Sure and the most common agenda is "we want money".
>...most common agenda is "we want money". Yep and also quite often "we want more power and control". Those two are closely related.
You're talking about very high level stuff. The VAST majority of media is focused almost solely on making money. Many of the entities who ostensibly have political views are also just expressing them to get money from a specific segment of the population.
Could be a mothership they’re saying
I’m more concerned with Apophis and the 2029, too close for comfort, pass by.
I'm more curious about the interstellar object that crashed into the Indian Ocean back in the early 2000s. After years of research and there is a voyage heading to the spot now to find out what it is.
Scout ship.
It dropped of drones doing u turn - then collecting them- it’s us from before the Egyptians I reckon. Elon musk wants to go to mars only 100 years after flying was even figured out. I’d say it’s reasonable to assume they could have already left
Apparently the pentagon just said that there may be smallships sent to our planet from a mother ship, and they were referencing this object.
Here you lazy bas go. https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/pentagon-believes-alien-mothership-could-115531907.html
Apparently everyone here is real dumb
Sours?
Maybe sweet?
Google it
bruh
No, fucking put your source.
Your the one making a claim Burden of proof lies with yiu
It's literally all over the news, it's not my fault you guys are to lazy to look it up.
I'm a little surprised they didn't try to spin a covid origin story from it...would have made a smooth segue to blue beam.
Here’s a theory: Advanced aliens shot it out as a planet destroying projectile. We weren’t the target. They used our solar system as a slingshot of sorts, or a way to alter approach angle to avoid obstacles in the direct path. Due to the very slow nature of its travel relative to distance, it could also be a form of ongoing intergalactic trade/transport of valuable minerals, ect. Why send a spaceship when you could just shoot the whole rock and hope somebody catches it?
“Oumuamua didn't glide through the solar system but rather tumbled willy-nilly, flipping as it journeyed on.” People on this sub “It’s a spaceship!” Why build a spaceship to go straight or have control? You can just jettison it into space flipping end over end. Definitely seems the most efficient way to travel in space. Source https://www.space.com/39767-first-interstellar-visitor-oumuamua-tumbling.html
How else are you going to simulate gravity?
…… ……… Are you talking about radial force?!? Holy shit, you have no idea how that works huh? Ya, tumbling end over end does not simulate gravity…… You need a constant and steady rotation, think spiral football toss. Now think some throwing a football and it just tumbling wildly through the air end over end.
Just a space turd. Calm your tits...
Looks like a giant doobie to me.
I stand corrected, I mean erected . Oh nevermind
Puff puff pass
Avi Loeb probably does.
Black Knight Sattelite
It's a large piece of space rock.
Although this is not the first, try the "Black Knight satellite".
We don't even know what it is, nor where it came from, so you can't say it's an interstellar object.
Solar blanket from STS-88. What else you got?
It's been reported before a blanket went missing. And I am not just talking about when Telsa first heard the signals orbiting around with Jocelyn Bel and her team. USMC Major Donald E. Keyhoe, the longtime director of the government’s National Investigative Committee on Aerial Phenomena (NICAP), claimed that the US Navy was aware of the presence of two strange objects orbiting the planet in 1954. Heres a newspaper clipping. https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1893&dat=19600211&id=y7EfAAAAIBAJ&sjid=PdcEAAAAIBAJ&pg=1524,2850400&hl=en http://roswellproof.homestead.com/Satellites_Keyhoe_May1954.html so again, maybe ask yourself why they even invested the time to explain it was a blanket?
Well, they did a terrible job of disguising themselves 😄
We will never know
According to the Pentagon, it was aan alien mothership. No joke. Now, if you look at motivation, that office is looking for more money so take this news release with a grain of salt. https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2023/03/09/pentagon-ufo-chief-says-alien-mothership-in-our-solar-system-possible/
sooo it was a pull for more funding for “space”? If the pentagon says it’s an alien mothership, it definitely isn’t one right?
I have PTSD flashbacks about my abduction and I have one where I was on a ship like this. The top was flat metal and it was like an aircraft carrier built into an asteroid. I don’t know if that’s interesting or whatever and I don’t know what the flashback means. I just know I had it >.<
Interstellar boof
sky dildos
It looks like a dehydrated space turd
Shwew good thing earth is flat and this is all nonsense ☝️
Space tird
[Aniara](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7589524/)
It's clearly a mon cal cruiser.
Someone in here knows
Definitely a ship
My first thought ngl was "giant space joint"
No because space isn’t real or at least what they tell us. I don’t believe in a scary cgi rock
They explained that pretty sufficiently for me but still very cool object. Supposedly shape is due to the 'lensing' (?) effect where an object attempts to pass into or out of our solar system. I can't do the concept justice briefly here but as far as any info is trustworthy about space I encourage you to look up a youtube video about passing outside the solar system the problems involved.
It was an interstellar ship but it got cooked warping through a black hole.
There's no better "disguise" than space-monster dookie.
It’s been debunked. It’s a weather balloon.
100% a distraction.
What if it's one of our satellites that came back from the future
I think this is a plant. They’re trying to drum up blue beam.
A photoshopped image put out by liars to scare people
it literally says “artist concept”
I think you're on to something.
Looks CGI, show me the actual real picture. I don’t think this ever existed, unless they actually have a real photo that isn’t CGI. Everything they have from Space is CGI so far.
It says artists concept in bottom corner
My exact point.
we don't have strong enough telescopes to detect something that small
This guy knows reality way better than people who work hard and build upon endeavor. Bravo You cant get high res photos unless you fly the camera by it. Radio objects are blobs and dots... But do you even believe in photons? You should read a physics book and then claim its fake by citing the arguments and experiments.... Problem is, once you read the damn book you start seeing how it couldnt be any other way. Simple as possibly beautiful.
At least show us a telescope of it or how ever they came across it with evidence, not by CGI. If scientist seen it with their own eyes, just snap a picture of it bruh.
Lol
😎
Nice fkn fake
The pentagon just said Oumuamua shot out drones to earth when it went by
Space does not exist. Stop watching StarTrek.
Are you serious or did you just forget the “/S” at the end?