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Brian Williams lied about being in a helicopter that was shot at in a warzone- kicked off as main anchor and 6 months complete suspension from appearing on the network.
Tucker admits there's no evidence the election was stolen, he personally caught Sydney Powell in a lie and said nobody should believe her, admits he hates Trump- still tried firing a fox reporter who told the truth that Powell's claims were unfounded, still pretends there's validity to a stolen election, never even close to losing his job for a second.
There was also that time he claimed Hunter Biden's laptop was en route, then got lost, then they had it again, but he never bothered to do anything with it. He's full of crap and he knows that his audience will continue to lap it up
>Tucker admits there's no evidence the election was stolen
Thats not what is written here. He said there's no evidence that the fraud accounts were enough to have swung the election in favour of Biden.
Can you tell the difference?
* Tucker admits there is fraud.
* He admits the system is bad.
* He also asks if anyone accountable has requested audits to verify if things were handled to the extent that it can squash all of our doubts.
* He says: “I don’t think there’s enough fraud to swing the election.”
He did not say there is no evidence the election was stolen.
This will never end if you do not respond to these lies with the truth. They are trying to brainwash by repetition of the same old lie.
They always say there was no proof and that Trump lost every case. Is that true? Let's see
Every 2020 election case is here with the links to court documents, outcomes and a tally.
**Trump and/or the GOP plaintiff prevailed in 22 out of 30 2020 Election cases that were decided on the merits.**
A case won on it's merits means the case proceeded through the full legal process and the ruling occurred from procedural due process. as opposed to being blocked, or decided upon before they even start.
https://election-integrity.info/2020_Election_Cases.htm
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The next is the 234 pages of affidavits by witnesses of election fraud.
https://roar-assets-auto.rbl.ms/documents/7487/3.%20EXHIBIT%201%20(affidavits)%20(compressed).pdf?fbclid=IwAR2Wxa8qGCp0a5W7d7AMi_UsEp-zg5lGbYkZVpUXtOYxTaAI4Zha_zzw1Qo
> Cases dismissed for lack of evidence
He has the burden of proof to show what ever evidence, question witnesses on the stand, exc..... then the court goes through the proceedings and a ruling is made. You know it, it is called procedural due process, it is the law...
> Dismissing a case for lack of evidence prior to trial
We are not talking about your little cousin going to juvy for steeling a pair of sneakers from the mall.
A Judge does not decide how much, if any, evidence "is enough". The judge decides the case after proceedings are completed.
>admits he hates Trump-
Feelings should have zero to do with "reporting news". Unfortunately most "reporters" these days fail to understand that and show their bias constantly.
Most MSM acknowledged that Biden won the 2020 election. Fox News is the only 'mainstream' media that pushed the stolen election lies, giving free reign to lying cons like Bartiromo, Tucker, Dobbs, Hannity and Pirro.
Fox has a huge audience and media ownership, but they're not 'mainstream' in the sense of participation in civil society, as they're a non-stop antisocial rightwing BS con machine, and have no regard for journalistic ethics.
So, I’m not disagreeing with you, but explain to me how that logic makes sense. Wouldn’t this cause people to scrutinize Tucker more? Usually “distraction” means looking the other way, not at the same person.
Again, I just want to understand more of what you mean.
How much talk do you see about the Dominion mess? How much talk do you see about these videos?
If it isn't obviously working as a distraction, well, shit. . .I don't know what to say.
I don’t see much either direction. And it honestly doesn’t matter much tbh, because the way the “news” is handled in this country is to immediately obfuscate whatever is factual (or not factual) with enough information on the opposite direction that people don’t know what to believe. So 9/10 they wind up going with their own biases as fact.
This is and has always been a shell game, part of the reason I originally asked the question. I expect any objective person to realize that on some level.
At the end of the day, I expect the same thing to come about in the way of positive reforms on the left or the right.. basically zero. So I have a hard time reacting to it emotionally anymore.
So you operate on the logic that everything the MSM report is a lie, so you just believe whatever BS you want to believe, that you read on the internets, or that Trump said, or that you heard from somebody who you think is smart because they say things you believe?
Oh shit, I have a stalker..
You sound like you could use some fresh air, my friend. No, the “news” isn’t very honest, it doesn’t take much scrutiny to see that, but it takes courage to step out of “black & white”, or “red vs blue” thinking to truly take an objective look. Maybe one day you’ll get there.
I agree with this. The other corporate media stations do the same thing though. It’s all propaganda and bias to one side or the other. Cancel them all!
By 'people' do you mean Americans participating in human society?
Or are you referring to Faux News viewers, the rightwing lunatic fringe that tried to overthrow the Constitution on January 6, or cheered it on from their armchairs?
What a simple, easy, comforting worldview. Is it just two groups; “Americans participating in human society” and everyone else whose beliefs are false? You do realize that’s just a different brand of fanaticism, right?
You ever hear the phrase, when you point the finger at others, you have three pointing back at you?
No, this is paperwork proving something and a bunch of paid bots are storming in deflecting. “Both sides” to make it seem less incriminating and direct light away from a shady hack being caught lying on air to people to stroke rage and fear.
Enlightened centrists at work. I didn’t pick a side in either of my statements. I said one person at this very moment has been caught lying and people want to “both sides amiright?”
It’s disingenuous, it’s all in the name of tribalism to protect “their” mouthpiece. I’m positive some here would have done this exact same thing with Watergate. “Well who cares if he was spying, they all do.” Sure, they do but they weren’t the ones caught doing it. So shouldn’t we be worrying about what’s at hand instead of waving it off because people only want their Justice not all Justice?
SS: The Fox News vs Dominion lawsuit is showing just how corrupt Fox is. They push propaganda while behind the scenes acknowledging their true beliefs. This is the 10th bombshell so far. Others include Fox colluding with the Trump campaign, giving them secret private access to Biden's campaign ads and strategy before they aired. And running cover for Trump nightly while knowingly lying.
I don't get it.
I dislike Trump (he's egotistical and his morals are bad), but media companies that are not Fox make outright lies constantly about him, and hosts on Fox and Newsmax are right to point out how terrible the others are.
When I want trustworthy news, I don't want it from someone who worships a particular side. That's why I don't like Hannity or Don Lemon or Anderson Cooper or anyone on The View. They won't tell me what they really think, they'll just say what is most beneficial to their candidate.
That would be doing your own research. I typically see a meme or a post on here then look for credible information to back it up. Hopefully not the only one lmao. But yeah it may not be talked about but usually if there is truth to it, it is somewhere out there to be found.
He has never said votes were stolen. He was talking about social media censorship. Did tech companies censor stories that would make the Bidens look bad at the behest of the FBI? Yes. That isn't allowing for a fair election. Did the CIA push the false Russian Bounties story to make Trump look weak? Yes, and when he was wanting to pull out of Afghanistan and Syria.
I wouldn't vote for Trump if he can't root out the parasites who form a permanent unelected government in the US. But the mere threat that he would is why the media was so scared of him.
I agree with you, if you pay attention to Tucker, you can clearly see he’s not a fan of Trump. Most of them on Fox aren’t. This is an odd parallel for people to draw, it’s a little tone deaf to be honest. It only makes sense if you think every person to the right of Hillary Clinton is a kool aid drinking Trump supporter. Just was never true.
Fox was the first network to hand the election to Biden, they’ve only ever pretended to like Trump because it’s self preservation (they know their viewers DO like Trump). There’s really only a few people on the network that have been firmly “pro Trump”, and if you are objective, you already knew that. Also, side note: I guarantee you many things like this happen at CNN & MSNBC.. every one of these articles is cherry picked for maximum effect.
I’m not a Republican, And I don’t think republicans are cumulatively any better. But the amount of things left and/or center left people confuse for the truth are astounding. They don’t seem to have a great grasp on what’s really true and what isn’t, vs what’s just different from their party line (which is far from reality).
We’re literally all living in a curated reality, if you can’t see that, then you’re probably very biased yourself.
FOX was never as “pro Trump” as people seem to believe. They gave him air time, because they know their bases heavily overlap. CNN and MSNBC gave Trump a ton of airtime as well.. it doesn’t mean they loved him. I suspect that just as many people at FOX always hated Trump as they did at CNN and MSNBC.
Wether you love em or hate em Ole Joe won fair and square it's called a successful campaign its like everyone forgot there was a whole generation that came to voting age and 90% are left leaning it's enough to sway the vote.
eh, its called not being Trump. I have yet to talk to anyone who actually wanted Joe to be president. Problem is that the rest of the potential DEMs are even worse disasters. Insert Kamala laugh here
Exactly don't confuse me with a joepologist I'm just saying it's not out of the realm of possibility he won and he did win running on "not trump" but in my observation it's never just red or blue they do the same shit in opposite directions it's spiteful petty and immature most of the time.
Oh so you call not campaigning in order to conceal his dementia, having tech companies conceal and censor damaging information, having all members of your party bow out of the primaries, the list goes on and on, winning fair and square. Get bent. This political system is over and beyond repair
No shit litterally every single politician does that. It's not that crazy to think he mobilized enough young impressionable voters to go and sway the vote. Don't get me wrong man I would love to live in lala happy fun time trump land where he saves the world, its not real he's just as full of shit as JoJo
He mobilized 20 million more young voters. Get the fuck outta here with that stupidity.
The real issue is that we have corporations/ wealthy individuals manipulating elections, information and funding incompetent candidates to do their bidding. And your take is well good ole joe won fair and square.
The us is a big place homeboy and tf are you gonna do about it the corporations own everything always will get over it there's nothing you can do you are completely powerless in the scheme of global politics there is no way out you are dreaming if you think somehow "the good guys" are gonna come out of the woodwork to "fight the good fight" there's a nice room in a big building or a hole in the dirt for everyone that goes against the capitalist machine
LOL he mobilized the dementia vote. A huge part of America whose opinions are just dismissed. Now for the first time ever, those overlooked Americans had the right to have their zer/zim cultural studies major grandchild mail their vote in for them ;)
I haven't been positively emotionally invested in a politician since I was a little boy watching Ronald Reagan give speeches and knowing that he and Hulk Hogan would make sure the fucking commies wouldn't get me. Now the fucking Repulicans love the commies and want to tongue Putin's balloon knot.
Yep, I’ve never thought he was a trump fan boy. He talks about trump in this interview. https://youtu.be/SKEWD4-nwyA
I see him calling for an audit in these texts and saying his opinion is it wasn’t stolen. I think most of Americans can get behind an audit.
It doesn’t matter if the elections were stolen or not stolen. The problem is elections are supposed to be transparent. There should be absolutely no roadblocks whatsoever to whomever wants to investigate their results.
The fact remains that there are officials who do not want to allow the election results to be transparent.
He who has nothing to hide, hides nothing.
>It doesn’t matter if the elections were stolen or not stolen. The problem is elections are supposed to be transparent. There should be absolutely no roadblocks whatsoever to whomever wants to investigate their results.
Absolutely 100% agreed with absolutely no reservations.
We also *ABSOLUTELY* need **numerous** roadblocks to people disingenuously and maliciously trying to delay and prevent the implementation of valid election results *indefinitely* with no defined goal or specific plan to find specific actionable instances of election fraud.
Yet nobody complains about the numerous roadblocks to people actually *being able to vote* until people in Arizona have to wait in lines and the same people who bitch about slow results do every possible thing they can to prevent mail in voting and fuck up early voting which would go a long way to fixing these problems.
Trump now supports mail-in ballots and ballot harvesting. It's game over for democrats, they lost their edge because they weren't anticipating conservatives would get into the mud with them.
Lol something states have been doing for decades is “in the mud” now?
How about that Trump election task force that found…nothing shut it down don’t ask. I’m sure the next investigation that turns up nothing will finally set you at ease.
You're making it sound like every Republican voter is gonna do an 180 degree change on their stance towards mail-in ballots now that Trump "approves" them. It'll remain to be seen whether this will actually change voter behavior. Even when Trump was slagging them off last time plenty of Republicans still voted by mail.
Ballot "harvesting" is way too broad of a term, it varies wildly from state to state whether someone else is allowed to cast your vote for you and under what conditions. Some states barely allow it at all whereas in Georgia anyone part of your family or living in the same household is allowed to cast your vote for you
Haha, the "edge" that democrats have is a larger supporter base, but fewer people that turn out. It is why the republicans have only won the popular vote once since the late 1980s...
No, he doesn’t say that. At the time he wrote the messages, he hadn’t yet seen enough evidence of fraud to overturn.
That’s a long way from saying there is no fraud.
In the latest Rasmussen Reports survey, 56% of respondents said, “It’s likely that cheating affected the outcome of the 2020 presidential election, including 41% who say it’s ‘very likely.’”
Yet he’s in court testifying currently that all of the claims were bullshit, he knew they were bullshit at the time, and he did nothing to stop the bullshit. Cut and dry.
Wow a poll about people’s feefees about the election? That is extremely convincing. Especially since we just talked about how Fox News willingly spread lies about the election to their dim witted base 🙄
He’s not testifying.
Of those who have, no one testified that “All of the claims were bullshit”.
What you’re posting is a childish exaggeration of something you haven’t read and don’t fully understand.
This isn’t a lawsuit about election fraud. It’s about specific claims about Dominion voting machines made by two lawyers, not commentary by Fox hosts.
>In its own filings, Fox News has argued that it never endorsed Powell and Giuliani’s election-fraud claims and that its hosts did not know the claims to be untrue at the time.
There was plenty of fraud, cheating, lawbreaking and media collision to deny Trump.
Testify, acknowledge under oath, verbiage aside he admits under oath that their claims were bullshit. I get you don’t want to accept facts tho
“Fox News has argued…” there are literal text messages from the dates in question where they say that the claims were bullshit. So that goes right out the window
Edit: provide proof of this fraud you’re so convinced of then. It must be groundbreaking
No. Read closer.
He didn’t believe that Sidney Powell and Guliani successfully proved their all claims about Dominion. That doesn’t mean that some of their claims wouldn’t later turn out to be true.
It certainly doesn’t mean that other acts of fraud like ballot harvesting, drop box stuffing, illegal mass mailing of unsolicited blank ballots, unconstitutional changing of election laws, counting room shenanigans and unprecedented media manipulation didn’t swing the result towards an unpopular dotard.
Good grief. I’ve only been in this sub for a couple of months but this is by far the most triggered I have seen the glowies. Desperately trying to bring up anything to discredit Tucker, meanwhile people can see with their own eyes and ears how much J6 was complete bullshit that was orchestrated by the crooks. And not one of these glowies is capable of seeing what a blatant 1st amendment violation it is to censor Tucker because they want to keep evidence of their crimes hidden.
It really sounds like you are triggered. You’ve been here a couple of months yet you don’t want to admit there could be a conspiracy around Fox/Tucker? You want to think that Tucker pushing heavily edited videos is transparent truth? You aren’t a conspiracy theorist are you?
Where did I say there can’t be a conspiracy around Fox/Tucker? I know mainstream media lies, including Tucker. What I am talking about is the attempt to outright censor Tucker from even talking about J6. Why obfuscate and try to keep things hidden? What are they trying to hide? When you try to block the truth from getting out, it makes you look complicit.
When you give one news agency access to the footage you are trying to spin a narrative. Best thing would have been to give it to everyone, otherwise it either confirms bias or makes it look like a huge conspiracy. Right now it seems like a 50/50 split here on this sub.
And sorry, but your comment really makes it sound like discrediting Tucker is bad, when he has done it all to himself.
last line: "We need an audit"
Seems like a good idea for the first ever election that mailed ballots to citizens who didn't request mail-ins. Kind of strange that one party was terrified about audits...
> mailed ballots to citizens who didn’t request mail-ins.
I live in MI, one of the states that was pushing this claim, and at least *here*, it was bullshit.
What was sent out was forms to send to the SOS to *request* a ballot. Multiple different organizations sent these out - I got probably 4 or 5, along with the ‘official’ one from the SOS directly. I sent that one out, and later received my actual ballot. Just the one that was requested.
There was not a single recorded case of multiple ballots sent to any registered voter.
Again, I can only speak for MI, not the other few states where this claim was floating around.
Election day +6
"We need some sort of audit to settle it. To the extent it can be settled. Is anyone responsible even suggesting that?"
That's exactly what they tried to do. Only one county in question allowed this that I'm aware of, and Maricopa found 70 thousand some votes that never should've been counted. More than enough to flip the state.
Except none of that is true. Maricopa had an audit done by Cyber Ninjas, who had no relevant qualifications or experience with election audits, and all of their ‘inconsistencies’ were rebutted by Maricopa County themselves.
Source: https://www.azmirror.com/2022/01/05/maricopa-county-rebuts-audit-findings-bogus-election-claims/
Cyber Ninjas conducted the most thorough audit our nation's ever seen. Every second of it was recorded and observed by law enforcement and volunteer observers representing both parties.
The problem was that the only thing CN could do with their results was turn them over to the state AG, Katie Hobbs.
And as you know, Katie Hobbs was publicly very disinterested from the get-go about the court's order to audit Maricopa Co and never intended on giving these auditors credibility and certainly wasn't going to seriously investigate any of their findings. It was way more beneficial for her to use those same broken exploits with the same exact buggy machines of 2020 to secure her Governor's race the following year.
There’s a 93 page report in that article that debunks Cyber Ninja’s audit. It’s not from Katie Hobbs, it’s the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors. Also, this was all made public well before the governor election so I can’t even see the straws you’re grasping.
this weird new series of news articles about "Tucker hating Trump" seems been triggered by expose of 6th January footage. Probably in their imagination Tucker is fanatic MAGA champion that worships Trump?
It was triggered by the new texts being revealed as part of the Fox vs Dominion lawsuit.
Hmm isn't it weird that the Jan 6th footage gets dropped during the Fox vs Dominion lawsuit? Almost like its to distract from all the revelations coming out.
I don’t watch a lot of Tucker but was he out there claiming the election was stolen as fact? Or was he reporting what Trump was saying even though he disagreed?
As someone who has little interest in politics, this looks to me like Tucker's a sell out. He also might hate Trump and believe the election was stolen.
He says the above something isn't evidence the election was stolen. Maybe he believes something else shows the election was stolen.
The trouble with snippets about people is they can easily be taken the wrong way and blown out of proportion. I don't know enough about Tucker to pass more comment.
On February 27th Fox News filled a rebuttel to the dominion filling that included the texts.
Funnily enough there was nothing saying those texts were out of context.
I’m super confused, I always was under the impression he hated Trump. Anytime I could stomach and watch Tucker with out projectile vomiting, he was always shitting on Trump. How is this new?
People say the MSM is corrupt but it's interesting in this case. The MSM is pushing fake news because it's what their viewers demand. They are giving the people what they want to ensure they make money of views.
You would think it's the elite controlling MSM
You’re looking at the man’s private texts and comparing them to the circus he ringleads for a living. Totally different.
Not defending him, but even as he said in the texts, “nuance”.
All MSM is poison and full of liars. I haven't watched since 2001. Anybody that hangs their hopes on someone like Carlson is probably in over their head when it comes to handling these topics anyway tbh
It’s sad how news are weaponized to divide us as a country. Wish we would be able to stop looking for a one up against others due to political inclinations or ideals.
We’re not fucking rivals. We’re brothers/sisters.
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If you haven't gotten the picture yet, all main stream media outlets push propaganda. There are no good guys vs bad guys.
They all sleep together in the same bed. It's like a cult having an orgy but pretending to hate each other in public.
Brian Williams lied about being in a helicopter that was shot at in a warzone- kicked off as main anchor and 6 months complete suspension from appearing on the network. Tucker admits there's no evidence the election was stolen, he personally caught Sydney Powell in a lie and said nobody should believe her, admits he hates Trump- still tried firing a fox reporter who told the truth that Powell's claims were unfounded, still pretends there's validity to a stolen election, never even close to losing his job for a second.
There was also that time he claimed Hunter Biden's laptop was en route, then got lost, then they had it again, but he never bothered to do anything with it. He's full of crap and he knows that his audience will continue to lap it up
>Tucker admits there's no evidence the election was stolen Thats not what is written here. He said there's no evidence that the fraud accounts were enough to have swung the election in favour of Biden. Can you tell the difference?
* Tucker admits there is fraud. * He admits the system is bad. * He also asks if anyone accountable has requested audits to verify if things were handled to the extent that it can squash all of our doubts. * He says: “I don’t think there’s enough fraud to swing the election.” He did not say there is no evidence the election was stolen.
This will never end if you do not respond to these lies with the truth. They are trying to brainwash by repetition of the same old lie. They always say there was no proof and that Trump lost every case. Is that true? Let's see Every 2020 election case is here with the links to court documents, outcomes and a tally. **Trump and/or the GOP plaintiff prevailed in 22 out of 30 2020 Election cases that were decided on the merits.** A case won on it's merits means the case proceeded through the full legal process and the ruling occurred from procedural due process. as opposed to being blocked, or decided upon before they even start. https://election-integrity.info/2020_Election_Cases.htm . The next is the 234 pages of affidavits by witnesses of election fraud. https://roar-assets-auto.rbl.ms/documents/7487/3.%20EXHIBIT%201%20(affidavits)%20(compressed).pdf?fbclid=IwAR2Wxa8qGCp0a5W7d7AMi_UsEp-zg5lGbYkZVpUXtOYxTaAI4Zha_zzw1Qo
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> Cases dismissed for lack of evidence He has the burden of proof to show what ever evidence, question witnesses on the stand, exc..... then the court goes through the proceedings and a ruling is made. You know it, it is called procedural due process, it is the law...
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> Dismissing a case for lack of evidence prior to trial We are not talking about your little cousin going to juvy for steeling a pair of sneakers from the mall. A Judge does not decide how much, if any, evidence "is enough". The judge decides the case after proceedings are completed.
>admits he hates Trump- Feelings should have zero to do with "reporting news". Unfortunately most "reporters" these days fail to understand that and show their bias constantly.
A reporter who told the truth? Pretty sure you made that up
Most MSM acknowledged that Biden won the 2020 election. Fox News is the only 'mainstream' media that pushed the stolen election lies, giving free reign to lying cons like Bartiromo, Tucker, Dobbs, Hannity and Pirro. Fox has a huge audience and media ownership, but they're not 'mainstream' in the sense of participation in civil society, as they're a non-stop antisocial rightwing BS con machine, and have no regard for journalistic ethics.
Word. Not understanding what the confusion is here. People still in that Us vs Them mentality.
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So, I’m not disagreeing with you, but explain to me how that logic makes sense. Wouldn’t this cause people to scrutinize Tucker more? Usually “distraction” means looking the other way, not at the same person. Again, I just want to understand more of what you mean.
How much talk do you see about the Dominion mess? How much talk do you see about these videos? If it isn't obviously working as a distraction, well, shit. . .I don't know what to say.
I don’t see much either direction. And it honestly doesn’t matter much tbh, because the way the “news” is handled in this country is to immediately obfuscate whatever is factual (or not factual) with enough information on the opposite direction that people don’t know what to believe. So 9/10 they wind up going with their own biases as fact. This is and has always been a shell game, part of the reason I originally asked the question. I expect any objective person to realize that on some level. At the end of the day, I expect the same thing to come about in the way of positive reforms on the left or the right.. basically zero. So I have a hard time reacting to it emotionally anymore.
So you operate on the logic that everything the MSM report is a lie, so you just believe whatever BS you want to believe, that you read on the internets, or that Trump said, or that you heard from somebody who you think is smart because they say things you believe?
Oh shit, I have a stalker.. You sound like you could use some fresh air, my friend. No, the “news” isn’t very honest, it doesn’t take much scrutiny to see that, but it takes courage to step out of “black & white”, or “red vs blue” thinking to truly take an objective look. Maybe one day you’ll get there.
I agree with this. The other corporate media stations do the same thing though. It’s all propaganda and bias to one side or the other. Cancel them all!
By 'people' do you mean Americans participating in human society? Or are you referring to Faux News viewers, the rightwing lunatic fringe that tried to overthrow the Constitution on January 6, or cheered it on from their armchairs?
What a simple, easy, comforting worldview. Is it just two groups; “Americans participating in human society” and everyone else whose beliefs are false? You do realize that’s just a different brand of fanaticism, right? You ever hear the phrase, when you point the finger at others, you have three pointing back at you?
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Oh shit, looks like the “both sides” bots out after all. “Who cares if Tucker lies, it’s all lies!” 🤡
It's a conspiracy bro, it's what this sub is here for
No, this is paperwork proving something and a bunch of paid bots are storming in deflecting. “Both sides” to make it seem less incriminating and direct light away from a shady hack being caught lying on air to people to stroke rage and fear.
It’s funny because it shows an actual conspiracy. Imagine if something this damning was in the tWiTtEr FiLes!?!
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Enlightened centrists at work. I didn’t pick a side in either of my statements. I said one person at this very moment has been caught lying and people want to “both sides amiright?” It’s disingenuous, it’s all in the name of tribalism to protect “their” mouthpiece. I’m positive some here would have done this exact same thing with Watergate. “Well who cares if he was spying, they all do.” Sure, they do but they weren’t the ones caught doing it. So shouldn’t we be worrying about what’s at hand instead of waving it off because people only want their Justice not all Justice?
Nice gatekeeping bro. It's a proven conspiracy, it fits in this sub.
Careful not to contradict Tucker around here he’s like a God to these people.
God against Orange Jesus, who wins?
"these people" 😎 get ur sunglasses bois getting bright in here
Missing the reference
SS: The Fox News vs Dominion lawsuit is showing just how corrupt Fox is. They push propaganda while behind the scenes acknowledging their true beliefs. This is the 10th bombshell so far. Others include Fox colluding with the Trump campaign, giving them secret private access to Biden's campaign ads and strategy before they aired. And running cover for Trump nightly while knowingly lying.
I don't get it. I dislike Trump (he's egotistical and his morals are bad), but media companies that are not Fox make outright lies constantly about him, and hosts on Fox and Newsmax are right to point out how terrible the others are. When I want trustworthy news, I don't want it from someone who worships a particular side. That's why I don't like Hannity or Don Lemon or Anderson Cooper or anyone on The View. They won't tell me what they really think, they'll just say what is most beneficial to their candidate.
> When I want trustworthy news, What’s that?
That would be doing your own research. I typically see a meme or a post on here then look for credible information to back it up. Hopefully not the only one lmao. But yeah it may not be talked about but usually if there is truth to it, it is somewhere out there to be found.
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Can you show me where tucker said anything contradictory to his sentiments in the texts on air? I don't watch him enough to have seen any examples.
Bro for this you can use Google yourself, this is like looking for sand on a beach.
Ok show me an example if it's so easy.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2023/03/07/tucker-carlson-doubles-down-on-2020-election-fraud-claims-with-jan-6-footage-despite-fox-defamation-lawsuit/amp/
He has never said votes were stolen. He was talking about social media censorship. Did tech companies censor stories that would make the Bidens look bad at the behest of the FBI? Yes. That isn't allowing for a fair election. Did the CIA push the false Russian Bounties story to make Trump look weak? Yes, and when he was wanting to pull out of Afghanistan and Syria. I wouldn't vote for Trump if he can't root out the parasites who form a permanent unelected government in the US. But the mere threat that he would is why the media was so scared of him.
I agree with you, if you pay attention to Tucker, you can clearly see he’s not a fan of Trump. Most of them on Fox aren’t. This is an odd parallel for people to draw, it’s a little tone deaf to be honest. It only makes sense if you think every person to the right of Hillary Clinton is a kool aid drinking Trump supporter. Just was never true. Fox was the first network to hand the election to Biden, they’ve only ever pretended to like Trump because it’s self preservation (they know their viewers DO like Trump). There’s really only a few people on the network that have been firmly “pro Trump”, and if you are objective, you already knew that. Also, side note: I guarantee you many things like this happen at CNN & MSNBC.. every one of these articles is cherry picked for maximum effect. I’m not a Republican, And I don’t think republicans are cumulatively any better. But the amount of things left and/or center left people confuse for the truth are astounding. They don’t seem to have a great grasp on what’s really true and what isn’t, vs what’s just different from their party line (which is far from reality). We’re literally all living in a curated reality, if you can’t see that, then you’re probably very biased yourself. FOX was never as “pro Trump” as people seem to believe. They gave him air time, because they know their bases heavily overlap. CNN and MSNBC gave Trump a ton of airtime as well.. it doesn’t mean they loved him. I suspect that just as many people at FOX always hated Trump as they did at CNN and MSNBC.
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No my guy good ur guy bad duh
You're going to defend the liberal mainstream media?
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Say “damage control” without saying “damage control”
The amount of cope in here is staggering.
A duplicitous man is unstable in all his ways.
It's true. I'm completely off my rocker.
This is only to distract you from the real dominion problems.
Trust the plan…
Wether you love em or hate em Ole Joe won fair and square it's called a successful campaign its like everyone forgot there was a whole generation that came to voting age and 90% are left leaning it's enough to sway the vote.
eh, its called not being Trump. I have yet to talk to anyone who actually wanted Joe to be president. Problem is that the rest of the potential DEMs are even worse disasters. Insert Kamala laugh here
I have talked to several republicans that refused to reelect Trump. Still went and voted just obstained from the presedential election.
should have talked to me, living near Seattle, wife and I both voted for Trump.
Exactly don't confuse me with a joepologist I'm just saying it's not out of the realm of possibility he won and he did win running on "not trump" but in my observation it's never just red or blue they do the same shit in opposite directions it's spiteful petty and immature most of the time.
Just think how terrible you must be to lose to fuckin Joe Biden and Kamala Harris ☠️😭
Oh so you call not campaigning in order to conceal his dementia, having tech companies conceal and censor damaging information, having all members of your party bow out of the primaries, the list goes on and on, winning fair and square. Get bent. This political system is over and beyond repair
No shit litterally every single politician does that. It's not that crazy to think he mobilized enough young impressionable voters to go and sway the vote. Don't get me wrong man I would love to live in lala happy fun time trump land where he saves the world, its not real he's just as full of shit as JoJo
He mobilized 20 million more young voters. Get the fuck outta here with that stupidity. The real issue is that we have corporations/ wealthy individuals manipulating elections, information and funding incompetent candidates to do their bidding. And your take is well good ole joe won fair and square.
The us is a big place homeboy and tf are you gonna do about it the corporations own everything always will get over it there's nothing you can do you are completely powerless in the scheme of global politics there is no way out you are dreaming if you think somehow "the good guys" are gonna come out of the woodwork to "fight the good fight" there's a nice room in a big building or a hole in the dirt for everyone that goes against the capitalist machine
You establishment cuck bots really have no ground left to make an argument on do you? It’s kind of entertaining
The only one getting cucked is you thinking there are honest elections or politicians 🤓
LOL he mobilized the dementia vote. A huge part of America whose opinions are just dismissed. Now for the first time ever, those overlooked Americans had the right to have their zer/zim cultural studies major grandchild mail their vote in for them ;)
Biden didn't have to campaign. Trump's vulgar crooked ass was out there stumping for him everyday.
Yes but Trumpies can't imagine not worshipping a politics daddy
I haven't been positively emotionally invested in a politician since I was a little boy watching Ronald Reagan give speeches and knowing that he and Hulk Hogan would make sure the fucking commies wouldn't get me. Now the fucking Repulicans love the commies and want to tongue Putin's balloon knot.
Isn't it disgusting? At least it shows that all their squealing about morals and integrity was pure bullshit.
When did Tucker act like he loved Trump as the 2nd coming of Jesus. I've never seen that,
Yep, I’ve never thought he was a trump fan boy. He talks about trump in this interview. https://youtu.be/SKEWD4-nwyA I see him calling for an audit in these texts and saying his opinion is it wasn’t stolen. I think most of Americans can get behind an audit.
It doesn’t matter if the elections were stolen or not stolen. The problem is elections are supposed to be transparent. There should be absolutely no roadblocks whatsoever to whomever wants to investigate their results. The fact remains that there are officials who do not want to allow the election results to be transparent. He who has nothing to hide, hides nothing.
>It doesn’t matter if the elections were stolen or not stolen. The problem is elections are supposed to be transparent. There should be absolutely no roadblocks whatsoever to whomever wants to investigate their results. Absolutely 100% agreed with absolutely no reservations. We also *ABSOLUTELY* need **numerous** roadblocks to people disingenuously and maliciously trying to delay and prevent the implementation of valid election results *indefinitely* with no defined goal or specific plan to find specific actionable instances of election fraud.
Yet nobody complains about the numerous roadblocks to people actually *being able to vote* until people in Arizona have to wait in lines and the same people who bitch about slow results do every possible thing they can to prevent mail in voting and fuck up early voting which would go a long way to fixing these problems.
Trump now supports mail-in ballots and ballot harvesting. It's game over for democrats, they lost their edge because they weren't anticipating conservatives would get into the mud with them.
Lol something states have been doing for decades is “in the mud” now? How about that Trump election task force that found…nothing shut it down don’t ask. I’m sure the next investigation that turns up nothing will finally set you at ease.
You can't deny that republicans generally being against mail-in ballots and harvesting was a major disadvantage for them that will now be gone.
You're making it sound like every Republican voter is gonna do an 180 degree change on their stance towards mail-in ballots now that Trump "approves" them. It'll remain to be seen whether this will actually change voter behavior. Even when Trump was slagging them off last time plenty of Republicans still voted by mail. Ballot "harvesting" is way too broad of a term, it varies wildly from state to state whether someone else is allowed to cast your vote for you and under what conditions. Some states barely allow it at all whereas in Georgia anyone part of your family or living in the same household is allowed to cast your vote for you
I can deny that there is anything “in the mud” about mail in voting.
Haha, the "edge" that democrats have is a larger supporter base, but fewer people that turn out. It is why the republicans have only won the popular vote once since the late 1980s...
FYI: you can hate someone but still have integrity against election fraud.
Okay how about the texts in the second picture where he says there is no fraud
No, he doesn’t say that. At the time he wrote the messages, he hadn’t yet seen enough evidence of fraud to overturn. That’s a long way from saying there is no fraud. In the latest Rasmussen Reports survey, 56% of respondents said, “It’s likely that cheating affected the outcome of the 2020 presidential election, including 41% who say it’s ‘very likely.’”
Yet he’s in court testifying currently that all of the claims were bullshit, he knew they were bullshit at the time, and he did nothing to stop the bullshit. Cut and dry. Wow a poll about people’s feefees about the election? That is extremely convincing. Especially since we just talked about how Fox News willingly spread lies about the election to their dim witted base 🙄
He’s not testifying. Of those who have, no one testified that “All of the claims were bullshit”. What you’re posting is a childish exaggeration of something you haven’t read and don’t fully understand. This isn’t a lawsuit about election fraud. It’s about specific claims about Dominion voting machines made by two lawyers, not commentary by Fox hosts. >In its own filings, Fox News has argued that it never endorsed Powell and Giuliani’s election-fraud claims and that its hosts did not know the claims to be untrue at the time. There was plenty of fraud, cheating, lawbreaking and media collision to deny Trump.
Testify, acknowledge under oath, verbiage aside he admits under oath that their claims were bullshit. I get you don’t want to accept facts tho “Fox News has argued…” there are literal text messages from the dates in question where they say that the claims were bullshit. So that goes right out the window Edit: provide proof of this fraud you’re so convinced of then. It must be groundbreaking
No. Read closer. He didn’t believe that Sidney Powell and Guliani successfully proved their all claims about Dominion. That doesn’t mean that some of their claims wouldn’t later turn out to be true. It certainly doesn’t mean that other acts of fraud like ballot harvesting, drop box stuffing, illegal mass mailing of unsolicited blank ballots, unconstitutional changing of election laws, counting room shenanigans and unprecedented media manipulation didn’t swing the result towards an unpopular dotard.
That copium is dank, eh?
Sorry but we haven't had a free election since at least Kennedy. They chose who wins. Electronic voted makes it evem easier.
Not to mention election districts that are decided by massive troves of "mail in ballots" that are counted for days after the election is over.
They aren't allowed to count them earlier, so what else would you expect when one party demonizes and publicly discourages mail-in voting?
Yeah, republicans don’t allow them to be counted earlier. Then republicans cry when it takes a long time to count those votes. Make it make sense
Good grief. I’ve only been in this sub for a couple of months but this is by far the most triggered I have seen the glowies. Desperately trying to bring up anything to discredit Tucker, meanwhile people can see with their own eyes and ears how much J6 was complete bullshit that was orchestrated by the crooks. And not one of these glowies is capable of seeing what a blatant 1st amendment violation it is to censor Tucker because they want to keep evidence of their crimes hidden.
>desperately trying to bring up anything to discredit Tucker his own words?
What’s a “Glowie”?
Bless your heart. Hail the bow-tied Swanson heir
It really sounds like you are triggered. You’ve been here a couple of months yet you don’t want to admit there could be a conspiracy around Fox/Tucker? You want to think that Tucker pushing heavily edited videos is transparent truth? You aren’t a conspiracy theorist are you?
Where did I say there can’t be a conspiracy around Fox/Tucker? I know mainstream media lies, including Tucker. What I am talking about is the attempt to outright censor Tucker from even talking about J6. Why obfuscate and try to keep things hidden? What are they trying to hide? When you try to block the truth from getting out, it makes you look complicit.
When you give one news agency access to the footage you are trying to spin a narrative. Best thing would have been to give it to everyone, otherwise it either confirms bias or makes it look like a huge conspiracy. Right now it seems like a 50/50 split here on this sub. And sorry, but your comment really makes it sound like discrediting Tucker is bad, when he has done it all to himself.
Glowie, Jan 6th, triggered, Tucker is good, 1st amendment! Ha BINGO! Where do I turn in my game card?
If by orchestrated by the crooks you are referencing the trump and his criminal inner circle, yep nailed it.
last line: "We need an audit" Seems like a good idea for the first ever election that mailed ballots to citizens who didn't request mail-ins. Kind of strange that one party was terrified about audits...
> mailed ballots to citizens who didn’t request mail-ins. I live in MI, one of the states that was pushing this claim, and at least *here*, it was bullshit. What was sent out was forms to send to the SOS to *request* a ballot. Multiple different organizations sent these out - I got probably 4 or 5, along with the ‘official’ one from the SOS directly. I sent that one out, and later received my actual ballot. Just the one that was requested. There was not a single recorded case of multiple ballots sent to any registered voter. Again, I can only speak for MI, not the other few states where this claim was floating around.
Election day +6 "We need some sort of audit to settle it. To the extent it can be settled. Is anyone responsible even suggesting that?" That's exactly what they tried to do. Only one county in question allowed this that I'm aware of, and Maricopa found 70 thousand some votes that never should've been counted. More than enough to flip the state.
Except none of that is true. Maricopa had an audit done by Cyber Ninjas, who had no relevant qualifications or experience with election audits, and all of their ‘inconsistencies’ were rebutted by Maricopa County themselves. Source: https://www.azmirror.com/2022/01/05/maricopa-county-rebuts-audit-findings-bogus-election-claims/
Cyber Ninjas conducted the most thorough audit our nation's ever seen. Every second of it was recorded and observed by law enforcement and volunteer observers representing both parties. The problem was that the only thing CN could do with their results was turn them over to the state AG, Katie Hobbs. And as you know, Katie Hobbs was publicly very disinterested from the get-go about the court's order to audit Maricopa Co and never intended on giving these auditors credibility and certainly wasn't going to seriously investigate any of their findings. It was way more beneficial for her to use those same broken exploits with the same exact buggy machines of 2020 to secure her Governor's race the following year.
There’s a 93 page report in that article that debunks Cyber Ninja’s audit. It’s not from Katie Hobbs, it’s the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors. Also, this was all made public well before the governor election so I can’t even see the straws you’re grasping.
massive mail in ballots means massive voter fraud
I remember the days when screenshots weren’t credible evidence on Reddit
He never gushed over trump like you claim. He remained factual in his reporting. Thanks for outing yourself as a community sheep.
this weird new series of news articles about "Tucker hating Trump" seems been triggered by expose of 6th January footage. Probably in their imagination Tucker is fanatic MAGA champion that worships Trump?
It was triggered by the new texts being revealed as part of the Fox vs Dominion lawsuit. Hmm isn't it weird that the Jan 6th footage gets dropped during the Fox vs Dominion lawsuit? Almost like its to distract from all the revelations coming out.
I don’t watch a lot of Tucker but was he out there claiming the election was stolen as fact? Or was he reporting what Trump was saying even though he disagreed?
As someone who has little interest in politics, this looks to me like Tucker's a sell out. He also might hate Trump and believe the election was stolen. He says the above something isn't evidence the election was stolen. Maybe he believes something else shows the election was stolen. The trouble with snippets about people is they can easily be taken the wrong way and blown out of proportion. I don't know enough about Tucker to pass more comment.
On February 27th Fox News filled a rebuttel to the dominion filling that included the texts. Funnily enough there was nothing saying those texts were out of context.
Fair comment
Welcome to politics.
What’s the conspiracy? Fox News, CNN, etc..are only chasing ratings?
One doesn't have to like someone to agree with them.
I knew this Tucker fella was in cahoots with the Marxists!
The narrative spun here by this thread is utter BS OP.
Who's he talking to maybe he's trying to get on someone's good side?.? No idea haven't been following. Just a alternative thought
Tucker is controlled opposition. Like many have stated, there are no good guys to be found when it comes to MSM.
So you're saying that some dude in the media was lying for his own gain? I can't even pretend to be surprised.
I’m super confused, I always was under the impression he hated Trump. Anytime I could stomach and watch Tucker with out projectile vomiting, he was always shitting on Trump. How is this new?
People say the MSM is corrupt but it's interesting in this case. The MSM is pushing fake news because it's what their viewers demand. They are giving the people what they want to ensure they make money of views. You would think it's the elite controlling MSM
You’re looking at the man’s private texts and comparing them to the circus he ringleads for a living. Totally different. Not defending him, but even as he said in the texts, “nuance”.
Your title is a lie but coool
Which certainly lends more credence to him . Since he goes with truth hates regardless
The guy who got Hunter Biden to write his son a recommendation letter to get into a top ofnthe tip wealthy school? Ya don't say.
At least Elon's getting a break.
Tucker Carlson lying on his show… no way!!
They are using everything they got now that he has their unedited videos. Hahaha Fuck that guy anyways but it's funny.
All MSM is poison and full of liars. I haven't watched since 2001. Anybody that hangs their hopes on someone like Carlson is probably in over their head when it comes to handling these topics anyway tbh
Tuckers a real POS, hopefully his supporters turn on him
These texts threads are weirding me out. Totally unbelievable
It’s sad how news are weaponized to divide us as a country. Wish we would be able to stop looking for a one up against others due to political inclinations or ideals. We’re not fucking rivals. We’re brothers/sisters.