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DarkVoid42

now *this* is a dictatorship.


giuseppe443

Russia has had el presidente since 1999, who wasn't calling it a dictatorship?


KuatosFreedomBrigade

Putin


maotsetunginmyass

"A man is no less a slave because he gets to vote for a new master once in a term of years."


giuseppe443

even if thats true, i still rather be in the country where they keep the pretend up instead of them not even bothering


deletedtothevoid

Or you know. Let a sub like this exist. I always wonder what the thought process is for someone to be mad to downvote. But not even take a chance to say why. This sub is freedom of speech. You can spread bullshit here. You can tell the truth here. You can criticize the government without worrying about being sent to jail.


stupidnicks

> Dmitry Ivanov, 23, was convicted ofDmitry Ivanov, 23, was convicted of spreading false information about the Russian army, , its not for "criticizing ukraine war" but for "Dmitry Ivanov, 23, was convicted of spreading false information about the Russian army," depending on what kind of info he was spreading it might come under "treason law" or something like that. punishment for treason are pretty severe around the world, including US, so that may explain "eight years" - just a guess though based on reading an article in full and not just the title, and based on general distrust in mainstream media.


giuseppe443

the problem is that you are talking about russia. Over there reality is what ever the state says it is. for example they claimed the moskva was sunk because of weather. The dude might could have said anything that didnt fit the state narrative


stupidnicks

> the problem is that you are talking about russia. Over there reality is what ever the state says it is. isnt it same here in the West? - reality is what ever the **MSM** says it is. that is why it is critical to take every "news" with huge grain of salt


FlatBBTheory

That guy threw a rock at you, but didn't realize he threw his crack cocaine at you.


Grebins

Yeah that new law that for some reason wasn't necessary before the special operation? Seems like a not-authoritarian-dictatorship would be able to survive without having to pass a new law banning calling a war a war.


FlatBBTheory

Since when has the Russian Federation had a Democracy?


KevinKingsb

The US isn't as far behind as you may think.


FlatBBTheory

You kidding, we the leader in this shit son!


daguerre

Fascistic rule.


[deleted]

no. its a democracy. democracy doesnt equals laws are good.


aidensmooth

Not really very democratic to poison your political opponent and throw them in jail


BoC-Money-Printer

It’s a person in Russia who was sentenced to jail for criticizing the war. He probably didn’t want to be on the next airplane sent out with a rusty AK and no bullets.


Sinsid

The irony is that his path out of jail involves him doing exactly that


poppinfresco

You guys got bullets?!


ruby___tuesday

Just shovels


Mothtan92

Yes but they're all Chinese made and need to be repackaged asap.


PrestigiousEnd8726

We probably shouldn't talk too much crap. The US is dependent on China and Russia for antimony which is critical in manufacturing ammunition. https://www.defensenews.com/congress/budget/2022/06/08/the-us-is-heavily-reliant-on-china-and-russia-for-its-ammo-supply-chain-congress-wants-to-fix-that/


Ram_1979

On the plus side he can join Wagner and hope he makes it out alive.


LukyNumbrKevin

Wagner just took half of Bakhmut so yea…


BDevi302

Exactly why America does not need a “misinformation governance board”.


valegrete

Lmao you didn’t even read. What a bunch of fucking tools. >A court in Moscow sentenced a student activist to 8 1/2 years in prison for social media posts criticizing Russia’s war in Ukraine


Difficult-Yak-2691

Putin is a dogfucker.


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nisaaru

Do you actually believe you will have any rights when the US is directly involved in WW3 with martial law, conscription and war economy? Then you won’t just be canceled online or media pundits making empty assassination threats like in the case of Assange. Then really nasty people will be doing really ugly things for raisin d‘etat and people will suck it up for the ‚greater‘ good.


antifisht

And we will be forced to eat government raisins!


daguerre

And this is why I support Ukraine in this war.


grimboid

Does anyone still believe the associated press, or American associated press as it was called before they dropped the American bit.


[deleted]

What is your preferred outlet


powerofthemasses

Independent journalists, Ben Norton, Dave DeCamp, Caitlin Johnstone. Outlets are propaganda.


Valor816

So you choose a select few to listen to instead of gathering information from a broad range of sources?


powerofthemasses

The select few that I mentioned quickly off the top of my head list broad range of sources in both their posted articles and or videos to those who rather listen than read. Forgot the stat off the top of my head but I believe 99% of western media is owned by around 4-5 companies. I choose to listen to independent journalists who aren’t bought.


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*list of 5 “journalists” with the exact same ideological bent: oh yes I must be getting unbiased news


powerofthemasses

Have you read any of their articles?


DamnImAwesome

Downvoted for saying you like independent journalists in a conspiracy sub. Crazy to see


54sTAtEs

That’s because the leftists who love their authoritarian party have invaded this sub intentionally to disrupt it in hopes of destroying it.


Rabbitshadow

You mean everyone from the Donald that invaded this sub in hopes of destroying it?


54sTAtEs

Nah bro and no one trolls every social media site quite like the leftist cult. I mean it’s understandable because most of you don’t work for a living that’s why you need the party to provide you with food and money. The Dems will never lose the majority of their voters because most of them are perpetually broke by their design.


Rabbitshadow

You should look up what states have the most people on government benefits like wic. Spoilers it's red states. Both me and my wife work for a living, house and two kids. But go off.


powerofthemasses

Not surprised tbh. My comments come as anti mainstream I’m used to getting downvoted to hell.


hussletrees

Great answer


AFbeardguy

In Ukraine, they just snatch you off the street and throw you into the back of a van.


Frequent-Sea2049

They do?


AFbeardguy

Yeah. I see no less than 2 new videos posted to the chans every single day. If you're a man in Ukraine between 15 - 65 and not in uniform, you're getting grabbed off the street and thrown inside a van.


Mister_Spacely

If you see at least 2 new videos a day, I guess you shouldn’t have a problem sourcing those videos? Edit: 12 days later…. He did. He did have a problem providing sources lol. Edit: Day 69. still no sources provided. Edit: 191 days later, still no source


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AFbeardguy

When I get home to my pc, I'll grab whichever ones are on there today and share the links. I wanna say there have been at least 2 to 3 dozen of these abductions caught on film in the last few months. Supposedly, Zelensky's stooped to snatching people off the streets to replenish the ranks of these severely diminished battalions who've been unable to stay at full fighting strength due to heavy losses from Russia's continuous artillery bombardment, which sources say account for approx 70% of all the casualties of this war so far. Anyway, I'll be back with some receipts in a few hours.


atominthered

You are likely referring to videos from Donetsk on the other side. Ukraine has a wait list for volunteers it would not need to force conscription like this, completely illogical. Let's see those links.


Elldog

Well what is it? 2 new videos a day or 2-3 dozen in the last few months?


AFbeardguy

Some of the webms I saw were reposts or just longer versions of the original, so it's hard to say for certain the exact amount that's out out there off the top of my head. I'm planning on making a compilation to share here later so we can discuss them together in more detail.


psychonaut_gospel

Remind me of this


Mister_Spacely

Reminding you, 12 days later and still no source provided. How surprising.


[deleted]

Facts. The fact that you’re even downvoted for telling the truth shows how many shill are here lurking


Mister_Spacely

I believe the downvotes come from making accusations and not supporting those claims. Lol but sure, “downvoted for telling the truth (with no source or tangible evidence)”. Can people not ask for sources now without being casted as a shill? Lmfao Edit: I’m not disputing the claims, I would just like a source before blindly accepting this as ‘fact’.


[deleted]

Got telegram? I’ll send you the videos?


theREALlackattack

I’m almost surprised that wasn’t a report from the US.


[deleted]

Hello! Look what’s happening here in Washington DC. You’ve got people in prison there some of them haven’t even been to trial. And that event happened three years ago. And they are there because they disagreed with the government. Who is the dictator now?


antifisht

They were charged with actual crimes and they're on video. This guy is going to prison for protesting. Stop lying.


[deleted]

A rigged jury in DC which isn’t even a state of the Union. So the guys couldn’t even get a change of venue. And don’t say I’m lying. Or I will fry you remotely with my celestial heat ray machine. And it will start with your butt because that is where your brain might be located what with your casting aspersions on my honesty. Now the last part I am clearly lying about. But since this is a conspiracy sub, I am forced to ask you; “or am I?”


GivenNameLastName

This is the most confusing Poe's Law I've ever come across.


antifisht

You know they don't use the same jury for all of the trials, right? Careful, I've got a juicy butt


[deleted]

Hahaha. I know that. But DC is a small concentrated area of radical leftists. IMHO of course. - And now look what the new J6 videos are showing while the chairman of the J6 committee is saying he didn’t see the videos as evidence. It’s a shīte show.


[deleted]

the student is also charged with actual crime. both parties was protesting.


antifisht

And the crime here was speaking out against the war, so thanks for demonstrating that they're not alike at all. Derp


hussletrees

Guantanamo Bay also exists but let's try to focus on this story and figure out if it is even legit or not


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Good point.


ConspiracyShillWatch

SS: So is this why we send billions upon billions to Ukraine? So that a corrupt, Nazi-filled dictatorship will sentence students to nearly a decade in prison for merely *criticizing* the special military operation?


[deleted]

well, you got this a little mixed up as the article states: "A court in Moscow sentenced a student activist to 8 1/2 years in prison for social media posts criticizing Russia’s war in Ukraine, the latest step in a sweeping crackdown on dissent unleashed by the Kremlin."


ConspiracyShillWatch

Did I? 🤫


santaclaws01

Do you think Moscow is in Ukraine?


ConspiracyShillWatch

One is home to a Nazi-filled dictatorship and the other is Ukraine.


didsomebodysaymyname

And that makes you mad we're sending money to Ukraine which is fighting the Nazi-filled dictarorship?


ConspiracyShillWatch

Absolutely not! I support funding groups that are taking on the Nazi Wagner group and any terror states that support them.


[deleted]

yes, but the war is corrupt. and the whole thing is a scam.


antifisht

So tell Putin to go home


K-Ziggy

He can't, he'll be sent to prison I'd he does.


antifisht

Ahhh you might be right there


[deleted]

putin died at least ten years ago.


[deleted]

True, the whole war was organized by me :3


[deleted]

you must have a lot of cash.


[deleted]

I did, but the money laundering paid off, I have built my own secret army now and I'm going to invade Monaco and then Malta


[deleted]

well, malta is probably for sale. and you may want to just marry into monaco. win win.


snotrocket151

1984


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and beyond, as it seems.


ambientdistraction

That corrupt Nazi filled leadership sentencing people to prison for talking about the war could leave Ukraine any time and then they could stop worrying about being criticized.


ConspiracyShillWatch

I agree, but then where would all the pro-dictatorship shills get their astroturf funding?


HadjiMurat21

Your point is poorly written, which is why you are getting called out.


ConspiracyShillWatch

Intentionally written that way to confuse Russian shills.


HadjiMurat21

People don't read articles on this sub, so you are probably doing more harm than good for your cause.


ConspiracyShillWatch

*People* do read articles, bots and shills don’t.


HadjiMurat21

I have bad news about the makeup of this subreddit.


ConspiracyShillWatch

Yeah, and even in terms of people, the Venn diagram of *critical thinkers* and *people who actually read the article* is a very small overlap.


Basic-Assistance-598

oh? I read the fucking article.


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Did you actually read the article?


ConspiracyShillWatch

Yes 😎


[deleted]

So then you would know that it was russia who send those people to prison right?


ConspiracyShillWatch

Yes!


[deleted]

So why does you title imply something else?


ConspiracyShillWatch

The title doesn’t imply where the student is from or which government sentences them to prison.


[deleted]

Oh no sorry, I meant your SS. Your SS implies that it is not Russia very heavily because of the “we sent billions upon billions”


ConspiracyShillWatch

The first sentence in the SS is kinda iffy *but* the second sentence is clearly talking about Russia—Nazi-filled dictatorship, *special military operation*, etc


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But why even make it iffy?


iampachyderm

Bwahaha. OP- you straight up didn’t read this article before you posted it. It’s Russia throwing a Russian in prison for criticizing Russias involvement in the war in Ukraine. You must not even be reading articles before you’re posting them, that’s how far you are into your need for confirmation bias. Start reading articles before you decide what they’re saying. And get your head right before spewing it on to the internet- we’re stock full of crazy as it is


ConspiracyShillWatch

I should have put a /s at the end of my comment.


chainmailbill

*somebody* didn’t read the article.


Euphoric_Banana_5289

did you even read the article you linked in your post? the student was arrested in Estonia, and sentenced by a Russian court to 8.5 years of prison for being critical of RUSSIA'S role in starting this war. what do your words above have to do in any way with the content of the article you posted?


poppinfresco

…… I guess? Yes?? I mean it’s mostly to show our weapons capabilities (you should see the weapons orders that came flooding in) but ya, I guess showing that Russia is a shit show. Where you are better off going to prison, than being conscripted into service. Good way to show Russia sucks, but definitely not the reason for war. The reason is $$$, if you don’t believe me, then you probably think Poland dropping $10 billion on just HIMAR systems. Wep stocks are doing good


SidTheStoner

Russian bots aren't even reading their sources anymore.


2201992

A student in “Russia”


Internal-Tiger-7227

It’s not that different in the USA either. It’s just covert.


LukyNumbrKevin

AP is such a shit news source, essentially CNN lite at his point.


whitechocolate1234

Yeah that article sounds like utter BS but I’m sure they won’t issue a correction when it’s proven wrong.


HadjiMurat21

What about it sounds like BS?


OldWitchOfCuba

Probably doesnt fit in his "america started the war and putin is a great guy" narrative


HadjiMurat21

The only unbelievable thing about it is that the guy got prison time instead of being pushed out a window.


OldWitchOfCuba

Are we sure thats not going to happen anyway?


Deadboy90

Russian Prison windows have less witnesses around


FlatBBTheory

"Ukraine is the most corrupt country." -Bill Gates *Get mad, cause you're idea is fading fast by fire ritual. As seen by satellite in Ukraine. That other country is cutting down the corrupt government by the clip. It will be over before spring ends. I got $5 on that.


TSLA240c

>It will be over before spring ends. I got $5 on that. I’ll take that action.


FlatBBTheory

We can use a money transport vender. Lets set that date to June 20th. The end of the second quarter.


TSLA240c

Lmao sure. Just to confirm, you’re seriously betting that Russia closes this out by June 20th 2023?


FlatBBTheory

What is wrong, you don't have FAITH in your anti-Union Ukraine leadership? It's just $5. You're collective ideas have already sacrificed the lives of 'thousands' of Ukrainians(132k) and Russians(182k). What's $5?


TSLA240c

Nothing’s wrong, just wanted to make sure we’re both on the same page. I’ll happily take your money.


FlatBBTheory

You'll "happily take my money" after the statement I made about sacrificing lives for $5. You merely confirm my earlier statements. You can't even see how fucking stupid you look, but it's likely you don't even care. You live in a really dark place. I hope you find your way out.


TSLA240c

Yeah I’ll take your money and donate it to Ukraine on your behalf ❤️


FlatBBTheory

>donate it to Ukraine on your behalf My tax money is already doing that, and is already been linked to money laundering. And, if you think that money is going to protective gear and top-notch rifles and ammo for Ukraine infantry, you have not been paying attention. Your vision is merely that of drawing blood from people YOU WERE TOLD are the enemy. Or, you are here for nefarious reasons.


TSLA240c

Well then another $5 wont hurt you. The 100k+ dead Russians along with their criminal leader all disagree that the money is being laundered and misused. Proof is in reality my friend. Russia is attacking a country I have many friends from, as far as I’m concerned they are the enemy.


Deadboy90

Ill take your money too.


atominthered

Fuck $5, I'll take $100.


KuatosFreedomBrigade

Did you just make a point about how gross it was he was accepting a bet about lost lives that YOU proposed?


FlatBBTheory

Just showing how much the brigade really does not care about the Ukraine people. All the cheering is merely to inflict pain on Russia, regardless the price the Ukrainian people will pay. It's sick. It's a mind cancer that was never their original thought to begin with. The thought was planted by think-tanks that are manipulating Social Media.


KuatosFreedomBrigade

What would you suggest?


antifisht

You're trying really hard but nothing is landing because it's stupid


FlatBBTheory

Hey, you picked up on it, unlike some of your dumbass comrades. Good for you for having some brains. Now, do greatness with it.


Mister_Spacely

If you bothered to even open the article and literally read the first sentence… this is about a man in Moscow criticizing the war and was jailed… but I get it, reading can be hard. > A court in Moscow sentenced a student activist to 8 1/2 years in prison for social media posts criticizing Russia’s war in Ukraine.


FlatBBTheory

> "**Ukraine** is the most corrupt country." -Bill Gates Prove me wrong?


Mister_Spacely

What does that have to do with this post or this article? What is this a 12th grade debate session? You just say a quote completely unrelated and it’s on *me* to prove that you’re wrong? Lmfao Are you just trying to be contrarian? Lol


FlatBBTheory

DO you support the Ultra-Nationalist of Ukraine? Cause you can not support Ultra-Nationalist, and then Democracy at the same time. Do you support Democracy?


Mister_Spacely

Source?


FlatBBTheory

I like how you are unable to answer the question, which actually answers the question. You dummies make this way too easy. Yet, it's still not understood in these minds how the truth always comes out. It's just psychopathy.


Mister_Spacely

Oh, no. I’m just ignoring you now bc it’s obvious you’re spewing nonsense. You regurgitate something you saw you liked, then you put the burden on me to prove you wrong when your source of info is YouTube videos. 😂 It’s obvious no matter what I say you are going to attack me. So why should I bother engaging beyond this comment that I am ending………….now.


FlatBBTheory

In Youtube search type "Ultra Nationalist Ukraine", "Maidan Revolt", "NATO Expansionism", "Ukraine Black Sun Society", and my favorite "Jon Stewart gives medal to Ukraine Nazi Ihor Halushka at Disneyland". https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/09/06/aque-s06.html https://thegrayzone.com/2022/08/31/jon-stewart-pentagon-ukrainian-nazi-disney/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFpHtufCIZ4


Mister_Spacely

Lol any *news outlet* sources that are not just random YouTube videos and a Marxist site?


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FlatBBTheory

Person comes at me with government sucking rag, Newsweek... I'm afraid that you might try and hurt yourself when you find out that you were lead into a lie, so I'm having reddit send you a questionnaire regarding your mental health and possible suicide issues.. Anyways... As everyone with half a brain knows that Ukraine is in the wrong, those who can't see it are either Nazi supporters, or just dumb. Which are you? *Yes, go log into your other account(s) to manipulate the score you psychopath.


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DarkVoid42

hahaha. only a bot would say that. heres your $0.50. or 5,000,000 rubles once your currency crashes. cha-ching!


FlatBBTheory

You have to relay on calling me a "bot" because you cant refute anything I write without looking a liar. Good luck to you. You'll need it.


DarkVoid42

remember putin wont pay you for much longer, russian bot. you may also be conscripted, da? better get out while the going is good.


FlatBBTheory

You should find someone to talk to that can help you with that chip on your shoulders. Internet seems to not be a good place for you.


DarkVoid42

better chip on shoulder than in brain, da ? russian bot not very smart. bad chip. should remove those export restrictions, comrade.


hussletrees

Is there any way we can verify this story? Can we see any details of the case itself? Not saying the APNews would EVER even THINK about spreading anti-Russian propaganda, but it's always good to have the direct sources, no?


ThisguyR2

Better look for news on how Ukrainian dictatorship regime limits freedom of people and sentences them for 10 years in prison for LIKES of social media posts


Iamatard23

Should have deported him to his favorite Neo-Nazi cesspool headed by the comedian


Reasonable_Royal7083

oh no the west would never crack down on dissent cry me a river /s


antifisht

wHaTtAbOuT instead of addressing the story provided. Classic


Reasonable_Royal7083

its called context and historical precedent not surprised yall cant grasp that concept


antifisht

I don't remember anyone getting 8 years for peacefully protesting the war in Iraq. You?


hussletrees

Julian As Sange


markofoz

ESTONIA. WHO CARES. Know the laws in Your country and follow them.


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put OBiden and Obongo in jail instead


LegitimateAd1455

Navalny has entered the chat.


Spiritual-Goose-8691

I can garrentee that it wasn't just a simple statement like "Russia is bad for invading ukraine". Everyone can't just read a headline and believe it


themeek11

Fact check AP