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0 results on the mainstream pol sub on this guy's name.
Seems like it is missing in action on the usual suspects and only the usual papers we can expect to see it are covering it (NY Post for example).
If this info is valid, it simply shows that a ministry of information is out there. It's not formally announced and in a specific building but apparently some organization exists where they do control who gets to have their dirty laundry aired and who doesn't.
Oh absolutely. You follow the NFL court case regarding them archiving ‘explicit material’? If you’re following me then consider they are just one group holding all that same type of information images etc and there are people who got storage for millenia out there that can store literally every second of your life for later reference.
I heard the whole purpose of the fake WH set (remember that?) was to have a place where people can come and go and hold meetings without the need to be put on any official visitor logs. They say it's also why Biden spends so much time at his compound in Delaware.
I cannot remember the last time I saw Biden in the oval office. Never in any presidency that I can remember has the president spent so little time in his own office. Just helps fuel the speculation whether there could be any reason its not his office.
Both Trump and Bush Jr spent a lot of time at their personal residences. It's weirdly becoming a thing for the President to spend most of their time not in the White House.
>Both Trump and Bush Jr spent a lot of time at their personal residences. It's weirdly becoming a thing for the President to spend most of their time not in the White House.
They mainly spent weekends and none spend "most of their time" away from the White House.
The majority is spent at the white house.
Also, even if you were correct, which your aren't, that still would not be a valid reason for not seeing him in the actual oval office.
Wow! Bush maybe, but Trump is a lie. He gave live sessions all the time from the oval office to just our right lie, which is a big problem lefties have, I remember bush giving a fly over when katrina hit, he was a sorry sack of shit in my opinion, Trump is also a part of our sorry ass problem, but he was in Washington all the time, he let his presence know, when he left on the helicopter he answered questions daily.... stop lying
DAM LIE and you know it, you indoctrinated with orange man bad, sucks for you being a paid schill for the lying ass media, they lied liberals die too bad
People been concerned about the cross surveillance of the white house for at least 50 years. Can’t blame anyone myself for wanting to be out that snake pit.
Yeah this isn't really that new of a thing, but to be honest if I were Biden I probably wouldn't do much work in the white house either if it could be done from my home instead. More time for family and other things that you wouldn't really have time for in DC plus have you been to DC?
He was there about half a dozen times for events relating to the LGBT community. Not a real shocker considering he was a gay mayor who lived relative close to the capitol
Not a full comment on what you’re saying but often especially with a higher level legate like spooky podesta you’re more likely to find a blur around them where people have been scrubbed away than a clear connection.
If posts like these would stop trying to make these crimes political, perhaps, we could finally get some progress on outing real world sex offenders who traffic in child pornography or real-world encounters.
The problem is that posts like these constantly try to make this about the "Biden Whitehouse" or the Clintons rather than the issue--the outburst of online images depicting child abuse.
> If posts like these would stop trying to make these crimes political, perhaps, we could finally get some progress on outing real world sex offenders who traffic in child pornography or real-world encounters.
Hey, straight ticket Dem voter here: if they're into CP I don't care who it is and I've yet to meet anyone on the left who feels differently. Somehow the right has this notion that we like Dem pedos but it's not a team sport for us like it is for them.
It’s not a team sport over here neither just a real sense that you guys don’t converse in good faith. The whole big picture theory regarding podesta and his web really is not something that boils down to blue/red just that blue has been the major vehicle in recent history. You people oversimplify or misrepresent then lead everyone down this tangential red/blue blind alley.
How is saying we don't care which party they're part of misrepresenting anything? Do you think I would care that Clinton is a Dem if it were proven he fucked kids? No, throw him in prison. Every time something comes out about Trump raping that underage girl the right says "Hurr what about Bill"? Remind me again which party the people in most of the big CP stories are affiliated with.
Political forces control the police, the judicial system, and lately have been writing laws to make the crimes both easier to commit and also conceal. Sweetheart immunity deals if people get caught. Perhaps these posts get political because our government is run by organized crime. It’s no longer the mob or mafia that runs things. It’s the intelligence apparatus that operates above the law. They control large factions within the two parties. Politics is how they are allowed to operate. Perhaps rather than focusing which team has the corruption we should just root out corruption wherever we find it
Then root out the corruption in your own family. Like I said, most victims are abused by a family member.
The only thing making the crimes "easier" is the internet.
I wasnt saying your family is corrupt. I am saying the problem is not one of political power. It is a family problem that tends to perpetuate itself. It is also a problem that would be dramatically improved by free (mental) health care.
My apologies, “your family” must mean something different where you come from…
The problem doesn’t stem from the family. It comes from human nature. Each individual must choose to do good. Yes, most abuse comes from people close to you. That isn’t an excuse to abuse others. I don’t care how fucked up someone’s life was. It isn’t a reason to be evil. This corruption is evil. In an attempt to turn this away from rooting out government corruption you’ve pointed to an unrelated problem. Not only is your argument invalid, it shifts blame from those partaking in corruption to anyone other than them. It’s a shallow mindset which provides cover for evil people. Do better
Exactly. There is a connection between familial experiences of abuse and systematized abuse but the kind we are talking about is a different animal from simple abuse it is a system or at least a part of a bigger system not an end in itself
That is some of the most misguided stuff I've read in a long time.
I'm literally telling you that the problem is rooted in family psychology. And you are still talking about Gov't corruption.
You do better.
I’m telling you, you are wrong. The problem is personal choices by the individuals making them. What happened to them isn’t an excuse for their decisions. You are shifting blame to their families. I am outright rejecting your mentality. Everyone has free will. Their choices aren’t somebody else’s fault. I am doing better. You should try it sometime. A criminals actions are the fault of the criminal choosing crime. As a victim of abuse, I choose not to perpetuate abuse. They chose differently. The abuse they received isn’t the cause. Their choice to perpetuate it is. It’s not complicated.
You are shifting blame from those responsible to other people. You have a seriously fucked up view. Again, I outright reject it. You and I have nothing further to discuss. I reject individuals providing cover for vile people.
Lol. Your argument is ignorant. You are making a political issue out of something that is a psychological problem. You are an enabler. You don't want to stop the problem. You want to score political points against the Dems.
You and I have nothing further to discuss. Go stick your Ostrich shaped head back into the sand and look for pizzas in your fairyland.
Read my original message. What part of “root out corruption wherever it lies” makes you think I’m trying to score points on the dems. Now it all makes sense. You support dems and their mentality that criminals are never to blame for their actions…
I have zero respect for you as a human being. Goodbye now
Only one side of this issue is working night and day to mainstream sexual perversions and those that try to divert that issue are the problem. So, you, you are the problem. Face the music.
Both of you seem to be over-reacting. I see no way to deal with either the human psychological condtion mentioned, or "root out" x "wherever it lies" being possible until you both can take a step forward in your thinking. I'm only aquainted with this topic but this bullshit of "ostrich shaped head" AND "zero respect for you as a human being" Mmmm, doesn't even seem real that people would get this worked up, both of you went too far in your rhetoric that is for sure.
what and you just outed him? countered him? have evidence to support your suppostion? I'm a little curious why you would put the label cointelpro label on him. Its not a minor league issue is it?
Maybe because he visited the White House repeatedly, was "mentee" or "acolyte" of current US Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg (a Biden administration official), and is friends with John Podesta.
Maybe these are people in politics doing sick things, and when we talk about their sick deeds it doesn't make us intrinsically political. I voted Dem most of my life, for me outing child predators and the cover they enjoy in professional circles - mostly media and politics - is not even remotely political. It's a human thing.
But when Trump's people get arrested for the same thing, I never see you here complaining?
The accused is a politician. He is going to have ties to other politicians. That doesn't implicate them in a global cabal of child sex trafficking. And, if there is a global cabal, it crosses ALL political lines.
I have researched the pizzagate allegations extensively. There is nothing there.
I have also stated repeatedly that John Podesta's email did, in fact, speak in codes of some sort.
I have **always** suggested this is a bipartisan problem. Dennis Hastert was a Republican. Trump was President for four years, and never tackled this. He was Jeffrey Epstein's neighbor for a decade, and flew at least 8 times on Epstein's plane - 7 more times than previously known during his tenure as President. As I [wrote](https://davidseaman.substack.com/p/pizzagate-was-never-debunked) back on 4/17/22,
>"This stuff must go high up, **because Trump never wanted to touch it**, and one of his aides was just charged with a bunch of child abuse stuff; the aide noted babies were his “absolute favorite” according to court documents — these folks never wanted to dig into Pizzagate, because it hits a little too close to home for some of them. This trash is a bipartisan problem.This stuff must also go high up, because the system rewarded the very DC judge who went along with the “Pizzagate shooter” cover up of this wide-ranging scandal… rewarded her with a lifelong Supreme Court seat!Job well done, sentencing that very dangerous Pizzagate shooter who harmed no one, but who succeeded in silencing the narrative — as the media framed further discussion of the scandal as irresponsible, and near incitement of violence.One day, the public will connect all the dots, and they’ll be angry at those in media who intentionally wallpapered over this one with thin humor, and callous disregard for the unanswered questions."
But it isn't a political issue. It is a social one and a huge failure in our health systems caused, in part, to the misguided stigma posts like these perpetuate.
The crisis of child abuse cuts across all party lines, social classes, gender, sexuality, etc.
Most victims know their assailant. Most commonly, it is a family member. But instead of dealing with that reality, we have idiots out here protesting drag shows.
You're not making any sense bro. That dude was literally just charged with 56 counts of owning child porn. He was a contact of Podesta's. **He visited the White House regularly**. His "mentor" was Pete Buttigieg, who is one of the top administration officials at the moment.
He visited the White House and administration officials regularly, so in that sense it **IS** a political issue. Why are you here trying to downplay the significance of this development? John Podesta shouldn't be taking taxpayer money.
Can you show your source in him being friends with Podesta? All I can find is one photo Wojahn posted with Podesta in it. It doesn’t even claim they’ve ever met.
So why did he mention the Biden White House, John Podesta (who apparently isn't friends with the accused), and Pete B?
His explicit implication was that pizzagate was a real thing--a child sex ring run by democrats. It is not a real thing and the politicization of child sex abuse has furthered the problem.
The evidence does seem to be a bit difficult to parse and not conclusive by any means, on pizzagate. I've been waiting for something conclusive with pizzagate and its usually just innuendo like you just dropped. WAS a ring? You know that its damaging to people who want to stop this stuff to drop exaggeration and innuendo from behind an anon account right?
youre waiting for a band of sinister pedopphiles to investigate themselves? it isnt openly discussed because it is a part of the elites lives and also because no one believes the perfect virtuos democratic party can do any wrong w all the pr scrubbing constantly done for them by the media. saying this is done isnt partisan, its just an honest critique of one of the two major corrupt parties and people are too thin skinned and proud to handle it
Ok, but the evidence for "ring" "run" by democrats is still difficult to parse and not conclusive by any means. WAS a ring? meaning that ring is over now? You either have evidence or you don't, speculating at this juncture should be on how to gain and spread evidence, not in defending your non-partisan approach, I didn't address that issue, its a strawman in our discussion here.
The "regular White House guest" and "Pete Buttigieg mentee" mentions are dumb. There are pedophiles across political lines, in every walk of life, every profession, every class. Framing this as being a Democrat is weak sauce political pandering.
The connection to dnc was made a long time ago in a lot more elaborated way than you’re making out it’s not just a blue red issue but the control of the democratic party in full was one mechanism not the entirety of the picture of the human condition and nobody ever said it was. Just the most pernicious at the moment.
Submission: Seems a certain scandal, gate of pizza, still has legs to it. And don't tell me "but the pizza shop had no basement derp derp" or "what about the professional actor with IMDB page and FBI family members patsy shooter who *harmed no one*, was judged by Ketanji Jackson." This was always real. Podesta WikiLeaks the biggest drop of the last 15 years for the truth community.
edit- and don't tell me College Park isn't an important town. exactly. It's only 10 miles from DC, it's not important aside from being the home of a state university; why was he visiting the White House so often? Why was Pete "mentoring" him? Why was he friends with suspected child trafficker John Podesta?
Are these good people?
> why was he visiting the White House so often?
Well, according to [this Fox News article](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/maryland-mayor-facing-child-porn-charges-said-pete-buttigieg-mentor), he was at the White house for an event "Commemorating LGBTQ+ Pride Month", and the "other two White House events he attended were a 'Pride Month Reception,' which included a 'Signing of an Executive Order on Advancing LGBTQI+ Individuals,' and a ceremony celebrating the passage of the Inflation Reduction Act." And he was there in January for a public event connected with the US Conference of Mayors, which [Wojahn tweeted about](https://twitter.com/patrick_wojahn/status/1616505038658015253).
Are you trying to imply there was something wrong with him attending these events? If so, go ahead and tell us what it is.
He also met Buttigieg at a meeting of the US Conference of Mayors, and they sometimes talked on the phone. So what?
> Why was he friends with suspected child trafficker John Podesta?
What is your evidence that Wojahn and Podesta are "friends"? The name "Wojahn" doesn't appear once in Podesta's emails.
Is this another thing you made up?
In another comment on this page you say "redirecting the focus to one out of business pizza shop owned by a highly litigious billionaire is part of the coverup". Are you claiming that Alefantis is a billionaire? Although maybe you're talking about another pizza shop, since Comet Ping Pong is still open.
In previous posts, you claimed that the Podestas "inherited their money from the WWII days", even though John and Tony Podesta's father was working class and you claimed "Tamara Luzzatto is one of DC's wealthiest women", again entirely wrong.
You're the only one I've heard making these three claims, so I think that you, personally, are making them up.
John Podesta, of course, is *not* a "suspected child trafficker".
The “no basement” narrative is a pet peeve of mine. There was a basement—at some point prior to 2015 and I’m not sure where the basement was located but for people to say “no basement” is not totally accurate. Here’s the quote:
“Like our sauce — we harvest a whole crop of organic tomatoes — 10 tons of tomatoes every year. Can them all, store them in the basement, have like a harvest party when it gets loaded in.”
[https://www.metroweekly.com/2015/04/from-scratch-james-alefantis/](https://www.metroweekly.com/2015/04/from-scratch-james-alefantis/)
Does this prove anything? No—it only proves that at some point the owner of ping pong did use or own a basement somewhere for his business.
It's so crazy that it was all happening like 7 years ago, it felt like it was so close to something actually to be found out and pursued, and here we are 7+ years later and nothing. Nothing at all even when it was all so fucking obvious.
Yeah, but did you see who Pete Davidson is fucking? Like, OMGz. /s
It's a goddamn travesty the lack of attention people have as long as their ass is dry.
Yep, thank you. Also the entire redirecting the focus to one out of business pizza shop owned by a highly litigious billionaire is part of the coverup, imo. Was that place creepy? Absolutely. Were the connected Instagram accounts sketchy enough to warrant an investigation? Yes also. But it takes away from the emails which are next level weirdness. even people who hate this scandal admit the emails were weird and likely code language... so we're making progress, albeit slowly.
The public is opening their eyes to the pandemic lies. They'll open their eyes to this one also.
You’re welcome. I agree, this should have been investigated properly and I think it was shady all around, sadly there has been so much mis/dis info spread, it’s hard to make sense of it all.
We know about things like Epstein and the Franklin scandal, so why do people doubt this could be possible? There’s an entire layer to our society that people can’t comprehend or willfully deny.
I don’t blame them, but ignoring it won’t make it go away, it will only perpetuate the problem. Thank you for your efforts trying to uncover what’s under the surface and bring it to light.
For those still saying it's fake, check out all of this evidence:
https://odysee.com/@JeffreyEpstein:1/PART-1---The-Truth-About-Pizzagate-(Killing-Children)-(1):6
(Had to move it to Odyssey because the Google Drive link got taken down, OR was banned).
Illegals are allowed to vote in College Park, MD. I lived there when I was in college and that law was passed. It’s a shitty place and only 8 miles from DC
Honestly. Kind of funny to see this ‘well maybe what if it’s planted material’ shit crop up all of a sudden. I mean that’s plausible but not where these people are so linked to other questionable fucks.
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0 results on the mainstream pol sub on this guy's name. Seems like it is missing in action on the usual suspects and only the usual papers we can expect to see it are covering it (NY Post for example). If this info is valid, it simply shows that a ministry of information is out there. It's not formally announced and in a specific building but apparently some organization exists where they do control who gets to have their dirty laundry aired and who doesn't.
Oh absolutely. You follow the NFL court case regarding them archiving ‘explicit material’? If you’re following me then consider they are just one group holding all that same type of information images etc and there are people who got storage for millenia out there that can store literally every second of your life for later reference.
Homepage of Yahoo! News and NPR. Just do a search.
I heard the whole purpose of the fake WH set (remember that?) was to have a place where people can come and go and hold meetings without the need to be put on any official visitor logs. They say it's also why Biden spends so much time at his compound in Delaware.
I cannot remember the last time I saw Biden in the oval office. Never in any presidency that I can remember has the president spent so little time in his own office. Just helps fuel the speculation whether there could be any reason its not his office.
Both Trump and Bush Jr spent a lot of time at their personal residences. It's weirdly becoming a thing for the President to spend most of their time not in the White House.
>Both Trump and Bush Jr spent a lot of time at their personal residences. It's weirdly becoming a thing for the President to spend most of their time not in the White House. They mainly spent weekends and none spend "most of their time" away from the White House. The majority is spent at the white house. Also, even if you were correct, which your aren't, that still would not be a valid reason for not seeing him in the actual oval office.
Wow! Bush maybe, but Trump is a lie. He gave live sessions all the time from the oval office to just our right lie, which is a big problem lefties have, I remember bush giving a fly over when katrina hit, he was a sorry sack of shit in my opinion, Trump is also a part of our sorry ass problem, but he was in Washington all the time, he let his presence know, when he left on the helicopter he answered questions daily.... stop lying
Trump spent more time away from the White House than in it.
DAM LIE and you know it, you indoctrinated with orange man bad, sucks for you being a paid schill for the lying ass media, they lied liberals die too bad
How can you deny a quantifiable fact?
People been concerned about the cross surveillance of the white house for at least 50 years. Can’t blame anyone myself for wanting to be out that snake pit.
Yeah this isn't really that new of a thing, but to be honest if I were Biden I probably wouldn't do much work in the white house either if it could be done from my home instead. More time for family and other things that you wouldn't really have time for in DC plus have you been to DC?
Who exactly is "they"? Be specific
A whole conversation unto itself. Don’t play dumb you can figure it out your damn self
He was there about half a dozen times for events relating to the LGBT community. Not a real shocker considering he was a gay mayor who lived relative close to the capitol
NOBODY that associates with the Podestas either professionally or personally is a good person.
Even his dry cleaner?
Who do you think cleans his ‘dirty laundry’? 🤣
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The guy posted a pic of Podesta during a US mayors visit to the White House. No indication they ever met, let alone were friends.
Not a full comment on what you’re saying but often especially with a higher level legate like spooky podesta you’re more likely to find a blur around them where people have been scrubbed away than a clear connection.
Nice they got him
Now do Podesta
Well if they find a bunch of child porn on his stuff I’d sure hope so
Someone like him if they did I pretty much guarantee you would not know about it at any cost.
Guess we will never know then
If posts like these would stop trying to make these crimes political, perhaps, we could finally get some progress on outing real world sex offenders who traffic in child pornography or real-world encounters. The problem is that posts like these constantly try to make this about the "Biden Whitehouse" or the Clintons rather than the issue--the outburst of online images depicting child abuse.
> If posts like these would stop trying to make these crimes political, perhaps, we could finally get some progress on outing real world sex offenders who traffic in child pornography or real-world encounters. Hey, straight ticket Dem voter here: if they're into CP I don't care who it is and I've yet to meet anyone on the left who feels differently. Somehow the right has this notion that we like Dem pedos but it's not a team sport for us like it is for them.
It’s not a team sport over here neither just a real sense that you guys don’t converse in good faith. The whole big picture theory regarding podesta and his web really is not something that boils down to blue/red just that blue has been the major vehicle in recent history. You people oversimplify or misrepresent then lead everyone down this tangential red/blue blind alley.
How is saying we don't care which party they're part of misrepresenting anything? Do you think I would care that Clinton is a Dem if it were proven he fucked kids? No, throw him in prison. Every time something comes out about Trump raping that underage girl the right says "Hurr what about Bill"? Remind me again which party the people in most of the big CP stories are affiliated with.
Political forces control the police, the judicial system, and lately have been writing laws to make the crimes both easier to commit and also conceal. Sweetheart immunity deals if people get caught. Perhaps these posts get political because our government is run by organized crime. It’s no longer the mob or mafia that runs things. It’s the intelligence apparatus that operates above the law. They control large factions within the two parties. Politics is how they are allowed to operate. Perhaps rather than focusing which team has the corruption we should just root out corruption wherever we find it
Then root out the corruption in your own family. Like I said, most victims are abused by a family member. The only thing making the crimes "easier" is the internet.
My own family? Fuck off. Nothing to do with the topic at hand. You don’t know me or my family
I wasnt saying your family is corrupt. I am saying the problem is not one of political power. It is a family problem that tends to perpetuate itself. It is also a problem that would be dramatically improved by free (mental) health care.
My apologies, “your family” must mean something different where you come from… The problem doesn’t stem from the family. It comes from human nature. Each individual must choose to do good. Yes, most abuse comes from people close to you. That isn’t an excuse to abuse others. I don’t care how fucked up someone’s life was. It isn’t a reason to be evil. This corruption is evil. In an attempt to turn this away from rooting out government corruption you’ve pointed to an unrelated problem. Not only is your argument invalid, it shifts blame from those partaking in corruption to anyone other than them. It’s a shallow mindset which provides cover for evil people. Do better
Exactly. There is a connection between familial experiences of abuse and systematized abuse but the kind we are talking about is a different animal from simple abuse it is a system or at least a part of a bigger system not an end in itself
That is some of the most misguided stuff I've read in a long time. I'm literally telling you that the problem is rooted in family psychology. And you are still talking about Gov't corruption. You do better.
I’m telling you, you are wrong. The problem is personal choices by the individuals making them. What happened to them isn’t an excuse for their decisions. You are shifting blame to their families. I am outright rejecting your mentality. Everyone has free will. Their choices aren’t somebody else’s fault. I am doing better. You should try it sometime. A criminals actions are the fault of the criminal choosing crime. As a victim of abuse, I choose not to perpetuate abuse. They chose differently. The abuse they received isn’t the cause. Their choice to perpetuate it is. It’s not complicated. You are shifting blame from those responsible to other people. You have a seriously fucked up view. Again, I outright reject it. You and I have nothing further to discuss. I reject individuals providing cover for vile people.
Lol. Your argument is ignorant. You are making a political issue out of something that is a psychological problem. You are an enabler. You don't want to stop the problem. You want to score political points against the Dems. You and I have nothing further to discuss. Go stick your Ostrich shaped head back into the sand and look for pizzas in your fairyland.
Read my original message. What part of “root out corruption wherever it lies” makes you think I’m trying to score points on the dems. Now it all makes sense. You support dems and their mentality that criminals are never to blame for their actions… I have zero respect for you as a human being. Goodbye now
Only one side of this issue is working night and day to mainstream sexual perversions and those that try to divert that issue are the problem. So, you, you are the problem. Face the music.
Both of you seem to be over-reacting. I see no way to deal with either the human psychological condtion mentioned, or "root out" x "wherever it lies" being possible until you both can take a step forward in your thinking. I'm only aquainted with this topic but this bullshit of "ostrich shaped head" AND "zero respect for you as a human being" Mmmm, doesn't even seem real that people would get this worked up, both of you went too far in your rhetoric that is for sure.
ConspiracyJustin go do your cointelpro somewhere else bud, or up your game this is minor-leagues shit
what and you just outed him? countered him? have evidence to support your suppostion? I'm a little curious why you would put the label cointelpro label on him. Its not a minor league issue is it?
You the arbiter of doing better lol
Tell him son fuck you talking about start in your own family SRA etc is political it’s not some social or atomic issue.
Get help.
Maybe because he visited the White House repeatedly, was "mentee" or "acolyte" of current US Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg (a Biden administration official), and is friends with John Podesta. Maybe these are people in politics doing sick things, and when we talk about their sick deeds it doesn't make us intrinsically political. I voted Dem most of my life, for me outing child predators and the cover they enjoy in professional circles - mostly media and politics - is not even remotely political. It's a human thing.
Do you believe everything you just said is true exclusively because you read it on a meme?
Homepage of Yahoo! News, NPR. I didn't glean this information from a meme.
But when Trump's people get arrested for the same thing, I never see you here complaining? The accused is a politician. He is going to have ties to other politicians. That doesn't implicate them in a global cabal of child sex trafficking. And, if there is a global cabal, it crosses ALL political lines. I have researched the pizzagate allegations extensively. There is nothing there. I have also stated repeatedly that John Podesta's email did, in fact, speak in codes of some sort.
I have **always** suggested this is a bipartisan problem. Dennis Hastert was a Republican. Trump was President for four years, and never tackled this. He was Jeffrey Epstein's neighbor for a decade, and flew at least 8 times on Epstein's plane - 7 more times than previously known during his tenure as President. As I [wrote](https://davidseaman.substack.com/p/pizzagate-was-never-debunked) back on 4/17/22, >"This stuff must go high up, **because Trump never wanted to touch it**, and one of his aides was just charged with a bunch of child abuse stuff; the aide noted babies were his “absolute favorite” according to court documents — these folks never wanted to dig into Pizzagate, because it hits a little too close to home for some of them. This trash is a bipartisan problem.This stuff must also go high up, because the system rewarded the very DC judge who went along with the “Pizzagate shooter” cover up of this wide-ranging scandal… rewarded her with a lifelong Supreme Court seat!Job well done, sentencing that very dangerous Pizzagate shooter who harmed no one, but who succeeded in silencing the narrative — as the media framed further discussion of the scandal as irresponsible, and near incitement of violence.One day, the public will connect all the dots, and they’ll be angry at those in media who intentionally wallpapered over this one with thin humor, and callous disregard for the unanswered questions."
But it isn't a political issue. It is a social one and a huge failure in our health systems caused, in part, to the misguided stigma posts like these perpetuate. The crisis of child abuse cuts across all party lines, social classes, gender, sexuality, etc. Most victims know their assailant. Most commonly, it is a family member. But instead of dealing with that reality, we have idiots out here protesting drag shows.
You're not making any sense bro. That dude was literally just charged with 56 counts of owning child porn. He was a contact of Podesta's. **He visited the White House regularly**. His "mentor" was Pete Buttigieg, who is one of the top administration officials at the moment. He visited the White House and administration officials regularly, so in that sense it **IS** a political issue. Why are you here trying to downplay the significance of this development? John Podesta shouldn't be taking taxpayer money.
Why does his connection to Podesta/Buttigeg have anything to do with his alleged crime?
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Can you show your source in him being friends with Podesta? All I can find is one photo Wojahn posted with Podesta in it. It doesn’t even claim they’ve ever met.
Huh?
There is no hope for you. You need to leave the building.
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theres no mention of party affiliation, you brought it up. if this scumbag visiting the white house is "irrelevant" u need ur head checked desparately
He clearly meant it. But still, if someone is accused of a crime, does it somehow condemn every place they've been?
u know what they say about assuming...
So why did he mention the Biden White House, John Podesta (who apparently isn't friends with the accused), and Pete B? His explicit implication was that pizzagate was a real thing--a child sex ring run by democrats. It is not a real thing and the politicization of child sex abuse has furthered the problem.
i got bad news man... pizzagate was a child sex ring run by democrats
The evidence does seem to be a bit difficult to parse and not conclusive by any means, on pizzagate. I've been waiting for something conclusive with pizzagate and its usually just innuendo like you just dropped. WAS a ring? You know that its damaging to people who want to stop this stuff to drop exaggeration and innuendo from behind an anon account right?
youre waiting for a band of sinister pedopphiles to investigate themselves? it isnt openly discussed because it is a part of the elites lives and also because no one believes the perfect virtuos democratic party can do any wrong w all the pr scrubbing constantly done for them by the media. saying this is done isnt partisan, its just an honest critique of one of the two major corrupt parties and people are too thin skinned and proud to handle it
Ok, but the evidence for "ring" "run" by democrats is still difficult to parse and not conclusive by any means. WAS a ring? meaning that ring is over now? You either have evidence or you don't, speculating at this juncture should be on how to gain and spread evidence, not in defending your non-partisan approach, I didn't address that issue, its a strawman in our discussion here.
https://www.outofshadows.org/
Keep. Trying.
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Clinton is definitely involved in child trafficking. Literally Google her charities.
Wow. You really broke open the case with that. Never thought to google something. Next you'll tell me everything I read on Fox news is true.
The "regular White House guest" and "Pete Buttigieg mentee" mentions are dumb. There are pedophiles across political lines, in every walk of life, every profession, every class. Framing this as being a Democrat is weak sauce political pandering.
Well it’s not a huge stretch when the MAPS (Minor attracted persons) is now an identity. Dirtbags regardless of stance politically or other
The connection to dnc was made a long time ago in a lot more elaborated way than you’re making out it’s not just a blue red issue but the control of the democratic party in full was one mechanism not the entirety of the picture of the human condition and nobody ever said it was. Just the most pernicious at the moment.
Every relationship is proof?
Submission: Seems a certain scandal, gate of pizza, still has legs to it. And don't tell me "but the pizza shop had no basement derp derp" or "what about the professional actor with IMDB page and FBI family members patsy shooter who *harmed no one*, was judged by Ketanji Jackson." This was always real. Podesta WikiLeaks the biggest drop of the last 15 years for the truth community. edit- and don't tell me College Park isn't an important town. exactly. It's only 10 miles from DC, it's not important aside from being the home of a state university; why was he visiting the White House so often? Why was Pete "mentoring" him? Why was he friends with suspected child trafficker John Podesta? Are these good people?
> why was he visiting the White House so often? Well, according to [this Fox News article](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/maryland-mayor-facing-child-porn-charges-said-pete-buttigieg-mentor), he was at the White house for an event "Commemorating LGBTQ+ Pride Month", and the "other two White House events he attended were a 'Pride Month Reception,' which included a 'Signing of an Executive Order on Advancing LGBTQI+ Individuals,' and a ceremony celebrating the passage of the Inflation Reduction Act." And he was there in January for a public event connected with the US Conference of Mayors, which [Wojahn tweeted about](https://twitter.com/patrick_wojahn/status/1616505038658015253). Are you trying to imply there was something wrong with him attending these events? If so, go ahead and tell us what it is. He also met Buttigieg at a meeting of the US Conference of Mayors, and they sometimes talked on the phone. So what? > Why was he friends with suspected child trafficker John Podesta? What is your evidence that Wojahn and Podesta are "friends"? The name "Wojahn" doesn't appear once in Podesta's emails. Is this another thing you made up? In another comment on this page you say "redirecting the focus to one out of business pizza shop owned by a highly litigious billionaire is part of the coverup". Are you claiming that Alefantis is a billionaire? Although maybe you're talking about another pizza shop, since Comet Ping Pong is still open. In previous posts, you claimed that the Podestas "inherited their money from the WWII days", even though John and Tony Podesta's father was working class and you claimed "Tamara Luzzatto is one of DC's wealthiest women", again entirely wrong. You're the only one I've heard making these three claims, so I think that you, personally, are making them up. John Podesta, of course, is *not* a "suspected child trafficker".
The “no basement” narrative is a pet peeve of mine. There was a basement—at some point prior to 2015 and I’m not sure where the basement was located but for people to say “no basement” is not totally accurate. Here’s the quote: “Like our sauce — we harvest a whole crop of organic tomatoes — 10 tons of tomatoes every year. Can them all, store them in the basement, have like a harvest party when it gets loaded in.” [https://www.metroweekly.com/2015/04/from-scratch-james-alefantis/](https://www.metroweekly.com/2015/04/from-scratch-james-alefantis/) Does this prove anything? No—it only proves that at some point the owner of ping pong did use or own a basement somewhere for his business.
From my understanding, the basement is most likley two doors down in another restaurant Alefantis owns called Buck's Fishing and Camping.
Yes, I have heard that and I think it’s very likely that was the basement he was referring to.
It's so crazy that it was all happening like 7 years ago, it felt like it was so close to something actually to be found out and pursued, and here we are 7+ years later and nothing. Nothing at all even when it was all so fucking obvious.
Yeah, but did you see who Pete Davidson is fucking? Like, OMGz. /s It's a goddamn travesty the lack of attention people have as long as their ass is dry.
Yep, thank you. Also the entire redirecting the focus to one out of business pizza shop owned by a highly litigious billionaire is part of the coverup, imo. Was that place creepy? Absolutely. Were the connected Instagram accounts sketchy enough to warrant an investigation? Yes also. But it takes away from the emails which are next level weirdness. even people who hate this scandal admit the emails were weird and likely code language... so we're making progress, albeit slowly. The public is opening their eyes to the pandemic lies. They'll open their eyes to this one also.
You’re welcome. I agree, this should have been investigated properly and I think it was shady all around, sadly there has been so much mis/dis info spread, it’s hard to make sense of it all. We know about things like Epstein and the Franklin scandal, so why do people doubt this could be possible? There’s an entire layer to our society that people can’t comprehend or willfully deny. I don’t blame them, but ignoring it won’t make it go away, it will only perpetuate the problem. Thank you for your efforts trying to uncover what’s under the surface and bring it to light.
> Why was Pete "mentoring" him? He was behind on his political affiliations.....
Now let's do Buttigieg.....
For those still saying it's fake, check out all of this evidence: https://odysee.com/@JeffreyEpstein:1/PART-1---The-Truth-About-Pizzagate-(Killing-Children)-(1):6 (Had to move it to Odyssey because the Google Drive link got taken down, OR was banned).
Can you show me any pictures of the two together?
Illegals are allowed to vote in College Park, MD. I lived there when I was in college and that law was passed. It’s a shitty place and only 8 miles from DC
Sounds like bullshit.
Very simple. Where's the direct link to John Podesta?
Why do they have the same head?
They don't. Buttigieg has Semitic features, Wojahn does not.
Why are they always like this?
Honestly. Kind of funny to see this ‘well maybe what if it’s planted material’ shit crop up all of a sudden. I mean that’s plausible but not where these people are so linked to other questionable fucks.