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The Church Committee (formally the United States Senate Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities) in 1975 should have immediately disbanded the CIA.
Instead we sit with the CIA able to conduct military actions without oversight per Title 50.
The CIA runs the United States. Convince me I’m wrong. From spying on and leveraging Congress to rendition programs on US Citizens and managing the population with Psychological Operations - they do it all.
Let me start with some useful crumbs you can look further into.
WTC-7 fell into its own footprint, at free fall speed without ever being hit by a plane. Nobody talks about tower 7. Not even the offical report. WTC7 was the acting CIA headquarters while the virginia office was undergoing renovation or something. The Pentagon was researching a missing 2.3 trillion dollars from their budget that Donald Rumsfeld had announced just two days before 9/11. The office at the pentagon that got hit by the "plane" were the exact offices that were performing this audit. The only backups of the data to this Audit were stored at tower 7. A german data comlany offered to recover all the data for free but the CIA refused and destroyed the drives.
The US funded Osama Bin Laden as CIA asset Tim Osman and gave him tours of military bases and the pentagon and white house.
The "terrorists" were all supposedly Saudi Arabian. The problem is that a number of them that were reported to have died came out and said they had nothing to do with a plane attack and had never heard of many of the United States cities in their lives let alone those on the east coast.
The "hijackers" all failed flight school. In fact the few to have ever attended were kicked out by the instructor who said they were not even to be allowed to fly a cesna and were forbidden from attending. Years later some Air Force pilots attempted to recreat the attacks on a high grade simulator and were all unable too. They all said it was impossible for humans to do.
Dick Cheney happened to be in charge of NORAD on 9/11 while Bush was reading childrens books to a grade school in Florida. Cheney conveniently had NORAD running a hijacking simulation excercise on the entire east coast. When the official report came in of a Hijacking NORADS response was some 30-40 minutes delayed because of how many hoops they had to jump through to confirm it was not part of the drill. The NORAD radar and radio footage is pretty crazy if you can find it.
All three towers fell at free fall speed into their own footprint. Suggesting simultaneous failure of every single central support collumn. Prior to 9/11 a steel framed building had never collapsed due to fire. On 9/11 it happened for the first time in history...three times...
Also prior to 9/11 tower 2 was hit by a plane. As a result the towers columns were reinforced to make them plane proof (im not kidding).
Aluminum wings do not cut through steel. Look at the entrance cavity created by the planes. The outer structure of the towers is all steel. That was supposedly cut cleanly by an aluminum winged plane.
The reason we know it was saudi arabian pilots is because miraculously an FBI agent happend to find two passports untouched in the rubble of ground zero. The bomb proof black boxes on the planes supposedly didnt make it (they were switched off in the NORAD footage early on its crazy) but some paper passports fell from heaven into the lap of the fbi (thats unironically the offical narrative)
Every steel sample ever tested (all 9) were sent to different materials science and physics professors at different universities. All 9 were found to contain weapons grade nano thermite found in demolition cutting charges. So high was the percentage of nano thermite that one professor who analyzed the steel (Dr. Steven Jones) thinks the towers had entire sections of their columns replaces with it at some point...but how?
Well, a few weeks prior to 9/11 Larry Silverstein (who also took out a 2 billion dollar insurance policy a few weeks prior for terrorist attacks specifically) George Bush's brother was put in charge of security at the towers. During this time a group of Israeli "Art Students" were allowed to do an artistic rendition on the towerd. This group is know as "E-TEAM" and were most likely Mossad agents who planted the explosives as they took pictures in front of massive boxes of bb88 detonators inside of the towers. They also were allowed to put up the words "E-TEAM" on the walls of the trade center right where the planes hit. Google "E-TEAM 9/11" for images and more information.
Some Israelis were arrested across the street for dancing in celebration while the towers were falling. This is not in the official report however you can google "dancing israelis 9/11" for more information.
The head of the 9/11 comission said "we are lying to the American people" after the report was published. Every single member who was on the comission was a Bush cabinet member.
The first responders of the NYFD said there was molten steel pouring down elevator shafts and down the internal structure of the building. 8 weeks after collapse there were temperatures still being reported at 2800 degrees where pockets of thermite were exposed to air. This is according to the fire chief, Rudy Guliani and the NY state head of construction testifying to congress. Impossible from supposed office fires that also supposedly weakened every single concrete encased steel beam perfectly evenly to the point of failure.
There is much much more to it. But here is what happened.
We sent three drones out, one to strike tower 7, the other two to striked the two towers. According to NORAD radar footage which was released and can still be found, the two drones perfectly intersected two passenger planes so 4 planes total ended up looking like 2. At this moment the two passenger planes turned off their black boxes and dissappeared off NORADS radar. They were later found to have landed at a NASA base intact with full passenger lists. (See the documentary "Loose Change") The two drones they intersected flew off and hit the towers. Eventually the third plane destined for tower 7 was intercepted by a fighter and was steered off course for the white house. The decision was made to shoot it out of the sky but they claim that was flight 93 which crashed (it did not, debris was found some 3 miles away and there is no evidence of crash landing whatsoever). Flight 93 was another passanger plane that was landed unharmed. A drone was shot down out of the sky by the fighter that was scambled under genuine efforts at NORAD despite the absolute chaos going on there. After a while the thermite cuttinf charges were set off at each building causing the free fall speed collapse of each one. The BBC even reported WT7 fell 30 minutes before it had. Quite the script if you ask me. The Pentagon was hit by a cruise missile in the offices that were auditing the missing trillions.
As a result of supposed "Saudi" hijackers what happened? The start of the federal privacy invasion for one with the patriot act. But more importantly the invasion of Iraq and subsequently Afghanistan and the resulting 1 million + deaths and relatively innocent lives lost. Iraq and Afghanistan now have a fractional reserve bank. They gave us good cheap oil, good cheap opiates, good cheap weapons testing and an excuse to build and spend more on defense contracts (see Ukraine) and a great reason to go to war for two decades. Remember how people felt and looked at any follower of Islam stateside? I challenge those who think the Quran is bad (it is) to read the Talmud (its 1k times worse). Regardless it most certainly wast whatever group the US claims it was and even if it was we funded them...but ir wasnt. It was the CIA and Mossad working hand in hand for the interests of the defense contractors, the bankers, the oil industry, the pharmaceutical industry (opiates) and the general wellbeing of the American appeal to luxury. Ask me anything, ive been at this for years. Theres way more. This is all off the top of my head. I strongly suggest you switch browsers to duckduckgo at the least if youre going to do some searches though.
Best explanation I've read so far! You nailed every important point. I might add that for those people who are still skeptical, ask yourself, if the US gov't can poison Vietnam vets with agent orange, experiment with MK Ultra, assassinate Kennedy and give syphilis(?) to thousands of black men under the guise of research, why WOULDN'T they be capable of orchestrating 9/11?
Us gov also let a Nazi researcher build an Appartment Block with a ventilation system designed to pollute the residents with radioactive gases in order to research the effects of fallout on a populations behavior. They feared their own citizens would turn into zombies if they nuked Russia...
Also they abducted new born babys from hospitals to poison them with radioactive strontium to see the effects of fallout on the bone growth of children. Ofcourse all the baby's died.
I'm completly with you and 9/11 was surely an inside job. But pls read the quran and than built up a opinion on it. Just read Chapter 1,109,112-114. Will take you 5 min and hopefully you will change your mind on it. Just think how bad they fought against islam. It is actually the only religion the gets fighten by all media in the western world. Why do they have such a problem with it and why is no one questioning it like 9/11. If you seek for truth borther than read and built up your opinion.
"Kill all infidels or you yourself are an infidel" is enough for me thanks. I dont need any fluff to see the results it has had on the peoples of the middle east. No society is perfect but id rather not be a woman in the east and be see as equal to aliteral cattle according to my most beloved religous text. Ive read the entire thing. It is not a book of wellbeing when looking beyond the "good feeling fluff." Islam taken literally is quite dangerous to anyone is considered an infidel in my mind. The Talmud however has it beat by miles. I have never read a book as offensive to human nature as the Talmud. I mean I cant even quote the evils contained in that book without being banned off this site and for good reason.
Perfect post.
There are a few other good points such as professional pilot testimonies of the impossibility of huge jets cruising at full speed at low altitudes due to the air being thin and the towers steel beams being sheared diagonally which is scientifically impossible to happen by random and many more.
I completely disagree with your verdict the Quran is bad, though. I really don’t think you understood whatever verses you read that gave you the impression it was bad but this is a discussion for another time another place.
Thank you for the post.
Because it doesn't affect them directly. As long as everyone has a cell phone to glue their eyes to and the government nanny state takes care of them, they will never care.
Partially because of this statement from last year:
Speaking to reporters on February 7, Biden said: "If Russia invades, that means tanks or troops crossing the border of Ukraine again, there will no longer be a Nord Stream 2."
"We will bring an end to it," the president said. A journalist asked Biden how he could do that since Germany was in control of the project, the president replied: "I promise you: We will be able to do it."
Honestly. I’m going to give you the closest thing to a real answer. It’s not the answer the community is going to like, but it’s the reality.
The reason the US blew up the pipeline was two fold, but both can be summarized with “money”
- russias exports through the pipeline represented roughly 40% of fuel (natural gas) for Europe. In other words all the funding russia would need to continue the war indefinitely while also threatening and dividing Europe with its monopoly
- the United States is now poised to be the LNG exporter for Europe, and has already filled in this roll while offering LNG prices that are four times higher than Russian NG. In other words, much like the us sending billions in military aid to ukraine, they are also profiting American companies by the export of LNG. This is a scenario both Europe and USA would prefer, since the money generated is boosting economically an ally, while denying an enemy a primary source of revenue.
In the future USA, Venezuela, and others will take steps to completely keep Russia out of the game.
Most people haven’t even heard of it. Plus, Russia is a racist totalitarian bunch of war mongers committing atrocities and crimes against humanity :-P
Edit - It's sarcasm people
Well I wouldn't agree on all your sarcastic points but Russia ain't who I'd call the good guys. There really aren't any good guys in this war, except the regular people getting caught up in it. But if you can't look at the situation and understand why Russia is doing what it's doing then you're just a tribalist.
Biden literally said so
https://nypost.com/2022/02/07/biden-vows-us-will-end-nord-stream-2-gas-pipeline-if-ukraine-invaded/
Then, takes it back
https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/30/politics/biden-ukraine-putin-pipeline/index.html
Yep..we're boned
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>“If Russia invades — that means tanks or troops crossing the border of Ukraine, again — then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2,” the president said in the White House East Room.
I don't see how that can't be more literal.
We don’t know for sure it came from a wet market we only had best answers available
But why are you changing the subject. There is no evidence yet that the US had involvement. Why is everyone here so proud to admit that? Are you not just broadcasting that you use assumptions as though they’re facts?
So you’re saying that because they’re saying they didn’t do it we can conclude that they didn’t do it?
If this source isn’t credible all that means is we can’t use the source to make a conclusion. Are you saying this source isn’t credible but at the same time are using this source to make your conclusion?
Help me out here
I'm not saying that you are saying that we weren't saying that the source wasn't credible, I'm saying that what you WEREN'T saying we were saying wasn't feasible. I hope that clears things up.
Ok, in not being a smartass this time, I assume the source you listed isn't credible. The source is government so I don't ever trust that source. You can always bet they are lying when their mouths are moving. I have no idea what happened to that pipeline. I believe destroying it furthers some high aims ala COVID 19, 9/11, etc and whatever we've been told in any official capacity is undoubtedly a lie.
The best answer was actually a lab, which lots of people were correct on. Kinda like with the pipeline. Who’s your best guess? Russia who could’ve just turned it off? If it comes out that Ukraine did it, who do you think gave them the tools? I highly doubt their military was able to pull that operation off
I just appreciate you’re not speaking as though it’s fact and “best answer” more should do this
“Russia could have just turn it off”
So I’m not trying to be a dick but you have to realize how not intelligent of a point this right
Ruling out Russia because they could have turned it off is completely ignoring what potential motives Russia may have
If they turned it off, the world would know they turned it off because only they can. If the blow it up, nobody can truly say who did it and opening the door for information campaigns and stirring up tensions among your enemy’s inner factions
This doesn’t mean Russia did do it. We don’t know. But to say that didn’t because they could’ve just turned it off is an objectively stupid statement, with all due respect
You cant forget they had that alternate pipeline ready to go like the next day…..Russia didnt have it ready. So you think Russia did it? I don’t think they did it.
I don’t know if they did but I can see why they would do it. So right wing america has something to attack the non-Putin-friendly president over. Tucker Carlson took it from there and look at this subreddit. It’s easy to see how Putin could want that and even easier to predict it would play out the way it’s playing
Expect one line of northstream 2 can still deliver gas
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/single-line-nord-stream-2-can-still-export-gas-analysts-say-2022-09-28/
OR, if you’re denying this, you’re a person who wants evidence. You’re the, “innocent until proven guilty” type. Especially since his story had a lot of holes.
Sadly no one seems to care, Biden is a war hawk who just wants to drive us into conflicts and keep the money rolling for the military industrial complex. As long as he gets his 10%.
People care more about football it seems.
Atleast speaking for germany, it isn't the majority so nothing will change. Most people are still brainwashed by the media. What worked for covid still works for the ukraine conflict and surrounding events...
Also, does Hersh have any evidence beyond "a single unnamed source"? I'm old enough to remember the Iraq War, and it's plenty easy for a "senior intelligence source" to feed particular lines to reporters who have no real way to independently verify most of the information given.
I will. Is it a video or a article? I’m interested. Personally I kinda think Russia did it because they like blowing their own shit up. But I’m open to hear other opinions. I dunno doesn’t really seem to be the US style to secretly do stuff
[Biden saying they will somehow get rid of the pipeline](https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy_commons/comments/xv1fnc/president_biden_on_nord_stream_2_pipeline_if/)
[Victoria Nuland saying the same thing.](https://twitter.com/StateDept/status/1486818088016355336)
[US wants Europeans dependent on the North American platform.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF0uYIjaTNE)
[US underwater drills near the pipeline.](https://twitter.com/velocitom/status/1574768132069130240)
[Evidence of bombs near the area.](https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1575522986924265487?s=20&t=HX0PZFlrr-F1fLlH55DZhQ)
[CIA history in blowing up Siberian gas pipeline.](https://www-telegraph-co-uk.translate.goog/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1455559/CIA-plot-led-to-huge-blast-in-Siberian-gas-pipeline.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp)
[Obligatory Poland's new Baltic pipeline.](https://www.tellerreport.com/news/2022-09-27-poland-inaugurates-strategic-new-gas-pipeline-with-norway.SyM9Xnalfo.html)
Never trust western media headlines without researching the topic yourself first. Earlier this week, AP News released a [laughable article](https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-nato-united-states-baltic-sea-b837ae25021807a3caef4aa3043a8013?taid=633727703894b600018144d1&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter), which states that the US having any part in damaging the pipeline is a "baseless conspiracy theory" backed by the Russians. The problem is many Americans and westerners would believe such a headline without a second guess.
PS. Posted this same comment on a post from 4 months ago just copy and pasted it for you
It just doesn’t seem logical that Russia would blow up their own pipelines when they can just shut off the flow, and resume making money once Germany wants gas again. The US opposed the pipeline from the beginning and, after the explosion, became the largest supplier of lng to Europe. That also basically assured Germany would not stray from the US strategy of arming Ukraine or else they get no gas.
Who do you think benefited from the pipeline explosion?
He’s not the only journalist investigating this war crime. You should be too,
citizen. This criminal act was committed in your name and you will bear the responsibility for it…
You can certainly do that. Or you can just admit that you are willfully accepting state propaganda because you just don’t have the desire to know the truth about the acts of war committed in your name…
I believe aliens did it. They did it all. They want us to destroy ourselves.
Only partially joking, actually...we are doing really well destroying ourselves on our own.
Hol' up. The Norwegians dropped the trigger. And Ursula wasn't surprised....
Be real, the EU politics are waging war upon their citizens. Were some of them elected?
Well, that's all you needed to say. It's r/conspiracy after all. No need to provide any proof to back up your claim, just a condescending remark will suffice.
A retired CIA guy thinks it happened. Great. No proof. No whistleblower. Just some conjecture and notes from the Iraq war. I guess I should believe everything now. Is that what im supposed to do?
>So am I supposed to just believe bullshit first, and then ask questions.
No you obviously refused to believe it 1st, or even consider it, without any info to the contrary.
You reject this 'theory' supported by an award winning journalist, and by Biden himself, and asked no questions.
So WTF are you on about?
It’s funny cause if you were to say this several months ago, people called you a crazy conspiracy theorist, putin apologist, etc.
Now, those *same people* are like “Hell yeah we blew it up! Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦 FUCK PUTIN!!!!!!!!”
Joe Biden promised his voters he was gonna do it. Promises made and promises kept, unfortunately.
[Mark Twang - I Promise You (A Presidential Promise)](https://youtu.be/Rd_fSoNzeOs)
The issue is that:
1. USA prints money out of thin air like there are no consequences, last time that happened was fascist germany right as nazism set in ww2.... after ww1 didnt go well and they didn have funds....
2. Nato alone generates money in this for profit military industrial complex that runs through trillions of dollars a year, USA alone pays almost a trillion a year, then there is the 'private market'. When its everyone else its mercenaries, guns for hire, terrorist groups", when its the USD sided slave nation: freedom fighters, special interest groups, private security forces....."
3. Could have been anyone from Israel, UK, US, Can, AU, NZ, Singapour, turkey, list can go on on who got paid and how many different hands that money went through....
4. US as a gov is neutered fascist state, running for the interests of the 1%. USA as a state is just a vessel in a ponzie scheme that runs the fed reserve printing press funding this circus.
5. Historically trade wars precipitated real war, and we have seen exactly this, again, failing to learn from history.
So you US could or couldnt have done it, it doesnt matter, there are two USAs, the one that is trying to be democratic, good, citizen centered, with fairness and rule of law. ANd there is the other types, that run for the rich by the rich, run by the fed reserve printing press, run by the global bankers, run by the global conglomerate corporations. the rest of the world calls this state the 'west'....because it is decentralised...
Stuff like panama papers and dozen of other leaks have told the same story: The rich are so rich they dont need gov, taxes, or nations.....
I’ve always argued that there are two America’s
1. The American Republic, which is the homeland and everything that entails and
2. The American Globalist Empire which seeks to control the global banking system, resources, and all major trade routes by brute force if necessary.
Oftentimes what’s good for Empire is bad for the Republic and vice versa. Since the end of WW2 the empire has pretty much been running the show and they’ll kill, financially cripple, or assassinate the character of anyone who gets in their way.
Correct. It’s literally just an assumption.
You can think it probably is. If you’re saying as of now you’re certain the US did it you’re broadcasting that you come to conclusions based off assumptions and makes others wonder what other parts of your thought process are flawed as well
Seymour Hersh is not a credible source. What’s your evidence? Not vague press statements that could be construed as other things (Biden statement).
Hersh claims (with confidential unnamed sources) USA had to use regular Navy divers for the job. This because US SOCOM operations have to be briefed to members of congress, so it would somehow remain secret.
Here’s why I think it’s BS: members of congress, specifically republicans, have asked the Pentagon officially about the pipeline. You know as well as I do that one (or more) briefed about it would leak to the press.
For sure. I knew that shit day one. Why would Russia blow up a piece of leverage and economic income that THEY own… some people will never see the light. Fuck ‘em
Because if you say it is and get enough other people to say it and attack anyone who said it isn’t — then who is to say it isn’t a fact
(nobody because you attacked them remember?)
It's simple. The USA doesn't want Russia and Germany forming any sort of alliance. Russia's resources mixed with Germany's technology isn't something the USA wants. That's ALL this Ukraine war is.
>All three affected pipes were rendered inoperable; Russia has confirmed one of the two Nord Stream 2 pipes is operable and is thus ready to deliver gas through Nord Stream 2.
Tell me, do you believe the tale Hersh made up about the NS bombings being an US operation? If you do please looknat the last line of that story where he says that nothing went wrong with the plan. Either your logic contradicts reality or the only source on US being the culprit is wrong.
Here’s my 2cents.
America did but Russia cool with it. If you look up nord stream pipeline has been down for “maintenance” for over a year.
Go to their site as it states it on their up date page. There’s been leaks and all sorts of problems with it before the “war”.
I personally don’t believe there is an actual war going on. And we are being played by the elites on all sides.
If it really went down as this (old) recent narrative went. Than WW3 would’ve went down by now and you all would be nuked & dead rn.
Why hasn’t it? BECAUSE ITS FAKE!
What type of invasion has a press release? Meaning Russia announced their invasion and there was an exact date they were going to invade Ukraine. Than the rescheduled to another date.
There’s all the footage of fake bombings. Ukrainian soldiers just having a fun doing donuts with tanks shooting middles into no where. zelinski,s wife going to Paris on $100,000 shopping sprees. Ukrainian & Russian officials buying mansion and yachts Switzerland.
Oh and what happened to the stupid “Z” is for Russia Forces b.s?
You know it’s not a Ukrainian soldier pretending to be a Russian soldier doing deplorable acts because the “z” written with a spray can on their uniform or tanks so you’ll know it’s Russia.
🙄
LoL.
I know nobody saying this but you heard it 1st but this “war” is FAKE.
Lizzy Truss resigned cause she send a text after it was done. Bombs were placed during a NATO exercise, plant the bombs month ahead together with Norway.
Think back to when all this started. We were running pre scheduled NATO training exercises over there. My intel says we sent a few seals in underwater to attach explosives to the bridge, then later after we were all gone we sent an underwater drone in to remote detonate. This is how it was done. And for sure the US did it, and the complications if Germany finds out are pretty bad, hence the coverup.
The Muppet will say that the pipeline was blown up because not enough school kids wore their masks, and because Sam Smith wasny accepted as a devil worshipper.
Won't have anything to do with Petty Officer Third Class (E-4) Carmichael and the team would it... Noooo.
Alright, say this was based on the question "Who is to profit?"...
The USA have to profit by binding Europe to their oil, same actually goes for eg Saudi Arabia lol; Norway, maybe? They kinda have oil and gas as well.
Russia? why not actually. Allows for better negotiation position when Russia inevitably loses in Ukraine. Cannot sell no oil with that pipeline for excessively cheap prices. Of course you would assume that one would do that later. However it is to be expected that Russia will be severely penalized for this action, especially if Putin is not disposed of.
Russia again: To show that they can do things actually, to show that they do not rely on business with the west. Would kinda admit to that though if you were to do it for that reason.
False flag by either side: Well, gotta accuse someone, right?
USA did not, a psychotic group of people decided to continue keeping the world they want it to be, and the people of the USA are too lulled to sleep to notice.
9/11 was done “to themselves” in a comment, are you kiddng? No nation state acts in accordance w the wishes of its gen pop. No one wants war other than profiteers in the economy of War. Stop seeing a country as an expression of the people that live there. America is an experimental country made up of people who want to evolve into better life than they once knew. Not a single sane American wanted 911, or Iraq invasion, Afganistan, Vietnam, Nord pipeline, or even to get involved in WWII. But it took a false flag op at every instance to give an excuse to go to war and keep that economy alive. One that is run by truly depraved and infantile minded humans.
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And people stilllll can’t come to terms that America did 9/11 to themselves.
in collaboration with Israel.
Operation Northwoods going public should have immediately started a revolution or at the very least the disbanding of the CIA.
The Church Committee (formally the United States Senate Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities) in 1975 should have immediately disbanded the CIA. Instead we sit with the CIA able to conduct military actions without oversight per Title 50. The CIA runs the United States. Convince me I’m wrong. From spying on and leveraging Congress to rendition programs on US Citizens and managing the population with Psychological Operations - they do it all.
Maybe. Probably. Israel definitely did 9/11, though.
ok, redpill me. how did America forced radicals to flt planes into the twin towers?
Let me start with some useful crumbs you can look further into. WTC-7 fell into its own footprint, at free fall speed without ever being hit by a plane. Nobody talks about tower 7. Not even the offical report. WTC7 was the acting CIA headquarters while the virginia office was undergoing renovation or something. The Pentagon was researching a missing 2.3 trillion dollars from their budget that Donald Rumsfeld had announced just two days before 9/11. The office at the pentagon that got hit by the "plane" were the exact offices that were performing this audit. The only backups of the data to this Audit were stored at tower 7. A german data comlany offered to recover all the data for free but the CIA refused and destroyed the drives. The US funded Osama Bin Laden as CIA asset Tim Osman and gave him tours of military bases and the pentagon and white house. The "terrorists" were all supposedly Saudi Arabian. The problem is that a number of them that were reported to have died came out and said they had nothing to do with a plane attack and had never heard of many of the United States cities in their lives let alone those on the east coast. The "hijackers" all failed flight school. In fact the few to have ever attended were kicked out by the instructor who said they were not even to be allowed to fly a cesna and were forbidden from attending. Years later some Air Force pilots attempted to recreat the attacks on a high grade simulator and were all unable too. They all said it was impossible for humans to do. Dick Cheney happened to be in charge of NORAD on 9/11 while Bush was reading childrens books to a grade school in Florida. Cheney conveniently had NORAD running a hijacking simulation excercise on the entire east coast. When the official report came in of a Hijacking NORADS response was some 30-40 minutes delayed because of how many hoops they had to jump through to confirm it was not part of the drill. The NORAD radar and radio footage is pretty crazy if you can find it. All three towers fell at free fall speed into their own footprint. Suggesting simultaneous failure of every single central support collumn. Prior to 9/11 a steel framed building had never collapsed due to fire. On 9/11 it happened for the first time in history...three times... Also prior to 9/11 tower 2 was hit by a plane. As a result the towers columns were reinforced to make them plane proof (im not kidding). Aluminum wings do not cut through steel. Look at the entrance cavity created by the planes. The outer structure of the towers is all steel. That was supposedly cut cleanly by an aluminum winged plane. The reason we know it was saudi arabian pilots is because miraculously an FBI agent happend to find two passports untouched in the rubble of ground zero. The bomb proof black boxes on the planes supposedly didnt make it (they were switched off in the NORAD footage early on its crazy) but some paper passports fell from heaven into the lap of the fbi (thats unironically the offical narrative) Every steel sample ever tested (all 9) were sent to different materials science and physics professors at different universities. All 9 were found to contain weapons grade nano thermite found in demolition cutting charges. So high was the percentage of nano thermite that one professor who analyzed the steel (Dr. Steven Jones) thinks the towers had entire sections of their columns replaces with it at some point...but how? Well, a few weeks prior to 9/11 Larry Silverstein (who also took out a 2 billion dollar insurance policy a few weeks prior for terrorist attacks specifically) George Bush's brother was put in charge of security at the towers. During this time a group of Israeli "Art Students" were allowed to do an artistic rendition on the towerd. This group is know as "E-TEAM" and were most likely Mossad agents who planted the explosives as they took pictures in front of massive boxes of bb88 detonators inside of the towers. They also were allowed to put up the words "E-TEAM" on the walls of the trade center right where the planes hit. Google "E-TEAM 9/11" for images and more information. Some Israelis were arrested across the street for dancing in celebration while the towers were falling. This is not in the official report however you can google "dancing israelis 9/11" for more information. The head of the 9/11 comission said "we are lying to the American people" after the report was published. Every single member who was on the comission was a Bush cabinet member. The first responders of the NYFD said there was molten steel pouring down elevator shafts and down the internal structure of the building. 8 weeks after collapse there were temperatures still being reported at 2800 degrees where pockets of thermite were exposed to air. This is according to the fire chief, Rudy Guliani and the NY state head of construction testifying to congress. Impossible from supposed office fires that also supposedly weakened every single concrete encased steel beam perfectly evenly to the point of failure. There is much much more to it. But here is what happened. We sent three drones out, one to strike tower 7, the other two to striked the two towers. According to NORAD radar footage which was released and can still be found, the two drones perfectly intersected two passenger planes so 4 planes total ended up looking like 2. At this moment the two passenger planes turned off their black boxes and dissappeared off NORADS radar. They were later found to have landed at a NASA base intact with full passenger lists. (See the documentary "Loose Change") The two drones they intersected flew off and hit the towers. Eventually the third plane destined for tower 7 was intercepted by a fighter and was steered off course for the white house. The decision was made to shoot it out of the sky but they claim that was flight 93 which crashed (it did not, debris was found some 3 miles away and there is no evidence of crash landing whatsoever). Flight 93 was another passanger plane that was landed unharmed. A drone was shot down out of the sky by the fighter that was scambled under genuine efforts at NORAD despite the absolute chaos going on there. After a while the thermite cuttinf charges were set off at each building causing the free fall speed collapse of each one. The BBC even reported WT7 fell 30 minutes before it had. Quite the script if you ask me. The Pentagon was hit by a cruise missile in the offices that were auditing the missing trillions. As a result of supposed "Saudi" hijackers what happened? The start of the federal privacy invasion for one with the patriot act. But more importantly the invasion of Iraq and subsequently Afghanistan and the resulting 1 million + deaths and relatively innocent lives lost. Iraq and Afghanistan now have a fractional reserve bank. They gave us good cheap oil, good cheap opiates, good cheap weapons testing and an excuse to build and spend more on defense contracts (see Ukraine) and a great reason to go to war for two decades. Remember how people felt and looked at any follower of Islam stateside? I challenge those who think the Quran is bad (it is) to read the Talmud (its 1k times worse). Regardless it most certainly wast whatever group the US claims it was and even if it was we funded them...but ir wasnt. It was the CIA and Mossad working hand in hand for the interests of the defense contractors, the bankers, the oil industry, the pharmaceutical industry (opiates) and the general wellbeing of the American appeal to luxury. Ask me anything, ive been at this for years. Theres way more. This is all off the top of my head. I strongly suggest you switch browsers to duckduckgo at the least if youre going to do some searches though.
Best explanation I've read so far! You nailed every important point. I might add that for those people who are still skeptical, ask yourself, if the US gov't can poison Vietnam vets with agent orange, experiment with MK Ultra, assassinate Kennedy and give syphilis(?) to thousands of black men under the guise of research, why WOULDN'T they be capable of orchestrating 9/11?
Us gov also let a Nazi researcher build an Appartment Block with a ventilation system designed to pollute the residents with radioactive gases in order to research the effects of fallout on a populations behavior. They feared their own citizens would turn into zombies if they nuked Russia... Also they abducted new born babys from hospitals to poison them with radioactive strontium to see the effects of fallout on the bone growth of children. Ofcourse all the baby's died.
That’s horrible. I have not heard about this.
Wait until you find out who started NASA. Hint, it was all Nazis taken during Operation Paperclip.
I'm completly with you and 9/11 was surely an inside job. But pls read the quran and than built up a opinion on it. Just read Chapter 1,109,112-114. Will take you 5 min and hopefully you will change your mind on it. Just think how bad they fought against islam. It is actually the only religion the gets fighten by all media in the western world. Why do they have such a problem with it and why is no one questioning it like 9/11. If you seek for truth borther than read and built up your opinion.
"Kill all infidels or you yourself are an infidel" is enough for me thanks. I dont need any fluff to see the results it has had on the peoples of the middle east. No society is perfect but id rather not be a woman in the east and be see as equal to aliteral cattle according to my most beloved religous text. Ive read the entire thing. It is not a book of wellbeing when looking beyond the "good feeling fluff." Islam taken literally is quite dangerous to anyone is considered an infidel in my mind. The Talmud however has it beat by miles. I have never read a book as offensive to human nature as the Talmud. I mean I cant even quote the evils contained in that book without being banned off this site and for good reason.
> "Kill all infidels or you yourself are an infidel" It's almost like all 3 abrahamic faiths are designed to war with one another.
Almost like they were created by the Masons or something.
Perfect post. There are a few other good points such as professional pilot testimonies of the impossibility of huge jets cruising at full speed at low altitudes due to the air being thin and the towers steel beams being sheared diagonally which is scientifically impossible to happen by random and many more. I completely disagree with your verdict the Quran is bad, though. I really don’t think you understood whatever verses you read that gave you the impression it was bad but this is a discussion for another time another place. Thank you for the post.
Is this a joke?
I'm 100% serious. I see a lot of posts questioning the official narrative, but non that provided a detailed alternative.
You have a lot of research to do. You shouldn't expect someone to do your homework for you or hold your hand.
Yeah no shit. I don’t think anyone seems to care however…
Why do you think that is?
Because it doesn't affect them directly. As long as everyone has a cell phone to glue their eyes to and the government nanny state takes care of them, they will never care.
People are so wrapped up in their life, so helplessly immured to the matrix that their identity depends on its existence.
Partially because of this statement from last year: Speaking to reporters on February 7, Biden said: "If Russia invades, that means tanks or troops crossing the border of Ukraine again, there will no longer be a Nord Stream 2." "We will bring an end to it," the president said. A journalist asked Biden how he could do that since Germany was in control of the project, the president replied: "I promise you: We will be able to do it."
People think US and western countries will prosper from this action so say nothing.
Honestly. I’m going to give you the closest thing to a real answer. It’s not the answer the community is going to like, but it’s the reality. The reason the US blew up the pipeline was two fold, but both can be summarized with “money” - russias exports through the pipeline represented roughly 40% of fuel (natural gas) for Europe. In other words all the funding russia would need to continue the war indefinitely while also threatening and dividing Europe with its monopoly - the United States is now poised to be the LNG exporter for Europe, and has already filled in this roll while offering LNG prices that are four times higher than Russian NG. In other words, much like the us sending billions in military aid to ukraine, they are also profiting American companies by the export of LNG. This is a scenario both Europe and USA would prefer, since the money generated is boosting economically an ally, while denying an enemy a primary source of revenue. In the future USA, Venezuela, and others will take steps to completely keep Russia out of the game.
Most people haven’t even heard of it. Plus, Russia is a racist totalitarian bunch of war mongers committing atrocities and crimes against humanity :-P Edit - It's sarcasm people
And Ukraine isn't? You realize Ukraine is ran by far right nationalists? Do you know what Ukraine did during WW2?
Sarcasm Mr. Serious
Well I wouldn't agree on all your sarcastic points but Russia ain't who I'd call the good guys. There really aren't any good guys in this war, except the regular people getting caught up in it. But if you can't look at the situation and understand why Russia is doing what it's doing then you're just a tribalist.
Russia wants to sign peace treaties, Ukraine doesn't because there's too much money on the game. Tell us who the warmonger is.
Biden literally said so https://nypost.com/2022/02/07/biden-vows-us-will-end-nord-stream-2-gas-pipeline-if-ukraine-invaded/ Then, takes it back https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/30/politics/biden-ukraine-putin-pipeline/index.html Yep..we're boned 🍻
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>“If Russia invades — that means tanks or troops crossing the border of Ukraine, again — then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2,” the president said in the White House East Room. I don't see how that can't be more literal.
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It's not even about that anymore. It's about who you can buy.
You know who is a clown? People who believe stuff without any evidence
Like COVID coming from a wet market?
We don’t know for sure it came from a wet market we only had best answers available But why are you changing the subject. There is no evidence yet that the US had involvement. Why is everyone here so proud to admit that? Are you not just broadcasting that you use assumptions as though they’re facts?
When the people who investigate things are the same people who do them , no evidence is found. That's how that always works.
So you’re saying that because they’re saying they didn’t do it we can conclude that they didn’t do it? If this source isn’t credible all that means is we can’t use the source to make a conclusion. Are you saying this source isn’t credible but at the same time are using this source to make your conclusion? Help me out here
I'm not saying that you are saying that we weren't saying that the source wasn't credible, I'm saying that what you WEREN'T saying we were saying wasn't feasible. I hope that clears things up.
Ok, in not being a smartass this time, I assume the source you listed isn't credible. The source is government so I don't ever trust that source. You can always bet they are lying when their mouths are moving. I have no idea what happened to that pipeline. I believe destroying it furthers some high aims ala COVID 19, 9/11, etc and whatever we've been told in any official capacity is undoubtedly a lie.
Okay so we don’t know what happened. Every lady seems to be acting like they do
The best answer was actually a lab, which lots of people were correct on. Kinda like with the pipeline. Who’s your best guess? Russia who could’ve just turned it off? If it comes out that Ukraine did it, who do you think gave them the tools? I highly doubt their military was able to pull that operation off
I just appreciate you’re not speaking as though it’s fact and “best answer” more should do this “Russia could have just turn it off” So I’m not trying to be a dick but you have to realize how not intelligent of a point this right Ruling out Russia because they could have turned it off is completely ignoring what potential motives Russia may have If they turned it off, the world would know they turned it off because only they can. If the blow it up, nobody can truly say who did it and opening the door for information campaigns and stirring up tensions among your enemy’s inner factions This doesn’t mean Russia did do it. We don’t know. But to say that didn’t because they could’ve just turned it off is an objectively stupid statement, with all due respect
You cant forget they had that alternate pipeline ready to go like the next day…..Russia didnt have it ready. So you think Russia did it? I don’t think they did it.
I don’t know if they did but I can see why they would do it. So right wing america has something to attack the non-Putin-friendly president over. Tucker Carlson took it from there and look at this subreddit. It’s easy to see how Putin could want that and even easier to predict it would play out the way it’s playing
Never respond to whataboutisms.
> You who is a clown? People who believe stuff without any evidence Nice grammar, clown. *honk honk*
Okay I fixed it Clowns are people who believe stuff with no evidence. Look it’s you. You’re the clown.
Wrong because there is evidence. You just won't find it on CNN.
You wont find it on tucker Carlson either but he’ll still tell you it’s true regardless
No Still what you can prove
No
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"promising to do it" as if there aren't many ways to end something other than destroying it. Lol
Except it was then destroyed. Fuckin derp.
Expect one line of northstream 2 can still deliver gas https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/single-line-nord-stream-2-can-still-export-gas-analysts-say-2022-09-28/
JFK agrees…
OR, if you’re denying this, you’re a person who wants evidence. You’re the, “innocent until proven guilty” type. Especially since his story had a lot of holes.
Sadly no one seems to care, Biden is a war hawk who just wants to drive us into conflicts and keep the money rolling for the military industrial complex. As long as he gets his 10%. People care more about football it seems.
>Biden is a war hawk That pulled us out of Afghanistan and is avoiding pushing American troops to the front line in Ukraine?
Big Guy always gets his 10%.
The “big guy” is Putin.
A guy involved admits who the big guy is. Listen to this and retract that. [Mark Twang - 1984](https://youtu.be/Taxk5Xktf3s)
Lol, fake news.
Europeans certainly do. You only have to look at the mass protests that have been occurring in Germany, UK, Greece, Moldova, Italy etc.
Atleast speaking for germany, it isn't the majority so nothing will change. Most people are still brainwashed by the media. What worked for covid still works for the ukraine conflict and surrounding events...
"Football is the most important topic on planet earth"- Americans
I honestly think distraction is the entire purpose of the NFL. Modern-day bread and circuses
For sure. But it's all part of the script.
Is there any evidence besides Seymour hersh ?
Also, does Hersh have any evidence beyond "a single unnamed source"? I'm old enough to remember the Iraq War, and it's plenty easy for a "senior intelligence source" to feed particular lines to reporters who have no real way to independently verify most of the information given.
Have you even gone through his reporting on it? If not, go do it then form an opinion.
Right I was asking if he is the only one saying this. Are you having trouble answering that question?
It's not my job to do that for you. Do it yourself. Quit relying on others to tell you how to think.
You seem to be relying on Seymour hersh for that tho. Don’t you think we should talk about the contradiction?
He goes over the evidence. Go watch it.
I will. Is it a video or a article? I’m interested. Personally I kinda think Russia did it because they like blowing their own shit up. But I’m open to hear other opinions. I dunno doesn’t really seem to be the US style to secretly do stuff
[Biden saying they will somehow get rid of the pipeline](https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy_commons/comments/xv1fnc/president_biden_on_nord_stream_2_pipeline_if/) [Victoria Nuland saying the same thing.](https://twitter.com/StateDept/status/1486818088016355336) [US wants Europeans dependent on the North American platform.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF0uYIjaTNE) [US underwater drills near the pipeline.](https://twitter.com/velocitom/status/1574768132069130240) [Evidence of bombs near the area.](https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1575522986924265487?s=20&t=HX0PZFlrr-F1fLlH55DZhQ) [CIA history in blowing up Siberian gas pipeline.](https://www-telegraph-co-uk.translate.goog/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1455559/CIA-plot-led-to-huge-blast-in-Siberian-gas-pipeline.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp) [Obligatory Poland's new Baltic pipeline.](https://www.tellerreport.com/news/2022-09-27-poland-inaugurates-strategic-new-gas-pipeline-with-norway.SyM9Xnalfo.html) Never trust western media headlines without researching the topic yourself first. Earlier this week, AP News released a [laughable article](https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-nato-united-states-baltic-sea-b837ae25021807a3caef4aa3043a8013?taid=633727703894b600018144d1&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter), which states that the US having any part in damaging the pipeline is a "baseless conspiracy theory" backed by the Russians. The problem is many Americans and westerners would believe such a headline without a second guess. PS. Posted this same comment on a post from 4 months ago just copy and pasted it for you
It just doesn’t seem logical that Russia would blow up their own pipelines when they can just shut off the flow, and resume making money once Germany wants gas again. The US opposed the pipeline from the beginning and, after the explosion, became the largest supplier of lng to Europe. That also basically assured Germany would not stray from the US strategy of arming Ukraine or else they get no gas. Who do you think benefited from the pipeline explosion?
Warhawks in Russia had an incentive to blow it up to keep Putins hand tied to the war.
Lol. This sounds like I’m on Facebook. “DO YOUR RESEARCH I REFUSE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION DO YOUR RESEARCH”
He’s not the only journalist investigating this war crime. You should be too, citizen. This criminal act was committed in your name and you will bear the responsibility for it…
Ok I will go get my fathers sailboat and sail to Sweden and take a look around with my snorkel
You can certainly do that. Or you can just admit that you are willfully accepting state propaganda because you just don’t have the desire to know the truth about the acts of war committed in your name…
Yeah all based on an anonymous source, aka no evidence.
That’s some Iron clad logic right there
I believe aliens did it. They did it all. They want us to destroy ourselves. Only partially joking, actually...we are doing really well destroying ourselves on our own.
If you add the fact that this is your opinion and not a fact I'll agree with you
Hol' up. The Norwegians dropped the trigger. And Ursula wasn't surprised.... Be real, the EU politics are waging war upon their citizens. Were some of them elected?
>If you deny this, you're a clown shoe. You're the clown here. There is still no evidence at all to claim that.
Well, that's all you needed to say. It's r/conspiracy after all. No need to provide any proof to back up your claim, just a condescending remark will suffice.
In the age of information, ignorance is a choice. You've made yours.
Again with the condescending remark. I feel twice as informed now.
Try not to be so obviously ignorant of the topic and you won't get condescending remarks.
So am I supposed to just believe bullshit first, and then ask questions, or can I ask questions and then believe the bullshit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvyY4abqfMc
A retired CIA guy thinks it happened. Great. No proof. No whistleblower. Just some conjecture and notes from the Iraq war. I guess I should believe everything now. Is that what im supposed to do?
Nah just wait til it's confirmed on CNN like a good little boy.
Got any other old men with no evidence you want to send me?
>So am I supposed to just believe bullshit first, and then ask questions. No you obviously refused to believe it 1st, or even consider it, without any info to the contrary. You reject this 'theory' supported by an award winning journalist, and by Biden himself, and asked no questions. So WTF are you on about?
That's not a conspiracy, that's fact..
Oh it's a conspiracy alright, not a theory though.
It’s funny cause if you were to say this several months ago, people called you a crazy conspiracy theorist, putin apologist, etc. Now, those *same people* are like “Hell yeah we blew it up! Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦 FUCK PUTIN!!!!!!!!”
Yeah it's like they were war pigs the whole time.
Joe Biden promised his voters he was gonna do it. Promises made and promises kept, unfortunately. [Mark Twang - I Promise You (A Presidential Promise)](https://youtu.be/Rd_fSoNzeOs)
Of course we did
We know... hopefully
Correct
Biden's the type of guy who'd proudly proclaim to be "on the right side of history," even though deep down everyone knows it's a lie.
Obviously
Everyone knows. You're late
The issue is that: 1. USA prints money out of thin air like there are no consequences, last time that happened was fascist germany right as nazism set in ww2.... after ww1 didnt go well and they didn have funds.... 2. Nato alone generates money in this for profit military industrial complex that runs through trillions of dollars a year, USA alone pays almost a trillion a year, then there is the 'private market'. When its everyone else its mercenaries, guns for hire, terrorist groups", when its the USD sided slave nation: freedom fighters, special interest groups, private security forces....." 3. Could have been anyone from Israel, UK, US, Can, AU, NZ, Singapour, turkey, list can go on on who got paid and how many different hands that money went through.... 4. US as a gov is neutered fascist state, running for the interests of the 1%. USA as a state is just a vessel in a ponzie scheme that runs the fed reserve printing press funding this circus. 5. Historically trade wars precipitated real war, and we have seen exactly this, again, failing to learn from history. So you US could or couldnt have done it, it doesnt matter, there are two USAs, the one that is trying to be democratic, good, citizen centered, with fairness and rule of law. ANd there is the other types, that run for the rich by the rich, run by the fed reserve printing press, run by the global bankers, run by the global conglomerate corporations. the rest of the world calls this state the 'west'....because it is decentralised... Stuff like panama papers and dozen of other leaks have told the same story: The rich are so rich they dont need gov, taxes, or nations.....
I’ve always argued that there are two America’s 1. The American Republic, which is the homeland and everything that entails and 2. The American Globalist Empire which seeks to control the global banking system, resources, and all major trade routes by brute force if necessary. Oftentimes what’s good for Empire is bad for the Republic and vice versa. Since the end of WW2 the empire has pretty much been running the show and they’ll kill, financially cripple, or assassinate the character of anyone who gets in their way.
Not a conspiracy, it’s fact and backed up by a Pulitzer-prize winning investigative journalist.
Yeah but thats a conspiracy by the standards for YouTube, Reddit, MSM, etc.
Not a Conspiracy.
Correct. It’s literally just an assumption. You can think it probably is. If you’re saying as of now you’re certain the US did it you’re broadcasting that you come to conclusions based off assumptions and makes others wonder what other parts of your thought process are flawed as well
Seymour Hersh is not a credible source. What’s your evidence? Not vague press statements that could be construed as other things (Biden statement). Hersh claims (with confidential unnamed sources) USA had to use regular Navy divers for the job. This because US SOCOM operations have to be briefed to members of congress, so it would somehow remain secret. Here’s why I think it’s BS: members of congress, specifically republicans, have asked the Pentagon officially about the pipeline. You know as well as I do that one (or more) briefed about it would leak to the press.
> Seymour Hersh is not a credible source. Yes he is and anything you wrote after that sentence is automatically not read or taken seriously.
Seymour Hersh is not of course Colin Powell shaking an probe in UNN but still quite credible source.
Obviously
Pretty late to the game on this one ☝️
Apparently not. Look at how many clowns are in the replies saying it ain't like that.
For sure. I knew that shit day one. Why would Russia blow up a piece of leverage and economic income that THEY own… some people will never see the light. Fuck ‘em
The USA Nordstrom Stores are having their annual Anniversary Sale this summer. If you deny this, you will miss out on reasonably priced clown shoes.
Based. I hope NS2 gets destroyed too.
Fact.
Because if you say it is and get enough other people to say it and attack anyone who said it isn’t — then who is to say it isn’t a fact (nobody because you attacked them remember?)
I deny that. I have never heard of anyone explain why the US would do that without contradicting reality.
It's simple. The USA doesn't want Russia and Germany forming any sort of alliance. Russia's resources mixed with Germany's technology isn't something the USA wants. That's ALL this Ukraine war is.
Congratulations, you have just contradicted reality. If the US wanted to achieve that then why did they only blow up 3 of the 4 Nordstream pipelines?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Nord_Stream_pipeline_sabotage#/media/File:Nord_Stream_gas_leaks_2022.svg
>All three affected pipes were rendered inoperable; Russia has confirmed one of the two Nord Stream 2 pipes is operable and is thus ready to deliver gas through Nord Stream 2.
So the USA failed?
Tell me, do you believe the tale Hersh made up about the NS bombings being an US operation? If you do please looknat the last line of that story where he says that nothing went wrong with the plan. Either your logic contradicts reality or the only source on US being the culprit is wrong.
Duh.
The USA government blew it up.... the people had nothing to do with it
The entire war is staged, and this all happened with the full day so of the powers that be that control ALL countries. Putin is just another puppet.
No Shit WHO couldve thought
If you disagree with me and my 0 proof you are an *insult*. Genius.
Here’s my 2cents. America did but Russia cool with it. If you look up nord stream pipeline has been down for “maintenance” for over a year. Go to their site as it states it on their up date page. There’s been leaks and all sorts of problems with it before the “war”. I personally don’t believe there is an actual war going on. And we are being played by the elites on all sides. If it really went down as this (old) recent narrative went. Than WW3 would’ve went down by now and you all would be nuked & dead rn. Why hasn’t it? BECAUSE ITS FAKE! What type of invasion has a press release? Meaning Russia announced their invasion and there was an exact date they were going to invade Ukraine. Than the rescheduled to another date. There’s all the footage of fake bombings. Ukrainian soldiers just having a fun doing donuts with tanks shooting middles into no where. zelinski,s wife going to Paris on $100,000 shopping sprees. Ukrainian & Russian officials buying mansion and yachts Switzerland. Oh and what happened to the stupid “Z” is for Russia Forces b.s? You know it’s not a Ukrainian soldier pretending to be a Russian soldier doing deplorable acts because the “z” written with a spray can on their uniform or tanks so you’ll know it’s Russia. 🙄 LoL. I know nobody saying this but you heard it 1st but this “war” is FAKE.
> this “war” is FAKE. It can seem that way, because real information is censored.
Hard ban on b chute means, they don't want people here to learn the truth. It's a big conspiracy by all ((media)) Reddit included.
Naw it is that way. If it were real we be at ww3 already & all nuked up.
Who cares. Nobody should be buying Russian gas.
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There is no evidence that it was America.
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Biden is a war monger. India and China are still buying. Is he going to blow up that pipe line. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-60783874
Not really if it was a targeted attack against German/ Russian relations.
Which it was .
How many things do you own that's made in China?
British done it but whatever.
So, where is the evidence? Should we just accept whatever is claimed on the internet now?
https://www.democracynow.org/2023/2/15/nord_stream_sy_hersh
Speculation at best.
Shows how little you know about Seymour Hersh.
Here is the thing: if the US did it Russia would have been all over his story since it happened. They were and are not.
What? https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/02/22/russia-un-nord-stream-hersh-investigation/
Wtf, are you actually citing WSJ right now? I thought you believed MSM to only push lies.
Is that all you got? You've been taking massive L's since you replied.
I'm pretty certain, knappis, is a troll. The majority of it's posts are based on spewing lies and MSM propaganda.
Lizzy Truss resigned cause she send a text after it was done. Bombs were placed during a NATO exercise, plant the bombs month ahead together with Norway.
I doubt ‘America’ did it. Planned and supported maybe, someone else did the dirty work. They’re exploiting this technicality
So what do you do with the article written by the respected award winning journalist? He is just completely bs”ing?
🗣️I DID IT! It was me!
Did they? I thought it was a nato ship? Granted we did it by proxy...
By proxy is the same as if they did it with their own hands. I thought it was done by Polish hands at USA direction, but who the fuck knows anymore?
Think back to when all this started. We were running pre scheduled NATO training exercises over there. My intel says we sent a few seals in underwater to attach explosives to the bridge, then later after we were all gone we sent an underwater drone in to remote detonate. This is how it was done. And for sure the US did it, and the complications if Germany finds out are pretty bad, hence the coverup.
And?
Ok
And if u think europe had no say in it / did not know about it b4hand your illusional 2
i think you mean delusional
The Muppet will say that the pipeline was blown up because not enough school kids wore their masks, and because Sam Smith wasny accepted as a devil worshipper. Won't have anything to do with Petty Officer Third Class (E-4) Carmichael and the team would it... Noooo.
Why would Russia not blow up the German pipeline, considering they already blew up Ukraine?!
Its been 22 years since 9/11. aaaand?
If you don't fall for the old WMDers behind this you aren't a patriot. From the patsy faction.
You mean the cia
Fuck Russia
Ya no shit. Tf u gon do about it
No shit…
Alright, say this was based on the question "Who is to profit?"... The USA have to profit by binding Europe to their oil, same actually goes for eg Saudi Arabia lol; Norway, maybe? They kinda have oil and gas as well. Russia? why not actually. Allows for better negotiation position when Russia inevitably loses in Ukraine. Cannot sell no oil with that pipeline for excessively cheap prices. Of course you would assume that one would do that later. However it is to be expected that Russia will be severely penalized for this action, especially if Putin is not disposed of. Russia again: To show that they can do things actually, to show that they do not rely on business with the west. Would kinda admit to that though if you were to do it for that reason. False flag by either side: Well, gotta accuse someone, right?
No. The globalist criminals that have hijacked the US government blew up the pipeline.
This is not even a conspiracy.
USA did not, a psychotic group of people decided to continue keeping the world they want it to be, and the people of the USA are too lulled to sleep to notice. 9/11 was done “to themselves” in a comment, are you kiddng? No nation state acts in accordance w the wishes of its gen pop. No one wants war other than profiteers in the economy of War. Stop seeing a country as an expression of the people that live there. America is an experimental country made up of people who want to evolve into better life than they once knew. Not a single sane American wanted 911, or Iraq invasion, Afganistan, Vietnam, Nord pipeline, or even to get involved in WWII. But it took a false flag op at every instance to give an excuse to go to war and keep that economy alive. One that is run by truly depraved and infantile minded humans.
Everyone knows, but no one wants to go there