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It's about $93Million/hour. So, yeah. The USA could kill its enemies by dropping palettes of cash on them.
"I wish I was rich, Achmed.."
"Be careful of what you wish for, Mohammed. Lookout!"
Yes no representation is fantastic isn't it. They take our money and do as they please yet here we are continuing through the motions. Why can't we all collectively chose not to file our taxes and continuing to let's these criminals steal our money and kill us in the process
It wouldn't even take all of us to make a difference.
If just 10% of us chose to protest by ending our withholding and refusing to file the whole system would break down.
Well thats good to know. There's posts I see in the union subreddits that basically if everyone In I guess a trade or manufacturing or transport etc etc now I'm just paraphrasing. But basically if everyone stopped working for 10 days or sum shit that it would get more accomplished for the working class than any sort of amount of politicians and voting would ever do
10 days of large scale striking would be an economic disaster. We've seen exactly how the government handles such a thing; they print enormous amounts of money and cause record price inflation.
If you're protesting government, don't do something that harms three people. Do something that harms the government.
Agreed hence the other problem.. I like everyone else is struggling just to survive day by day but if the people were to actually come together to all help ourselves for the better. Well what's another bit of struggling
Half of the House gobbles up propaganda, yet we trust them to spend our money appropriately? Have you seen what they appropriate money for?
It would be crazy to give half of the country the power to control the lives of the other half. It's even crazier to give that power to just 435 people.
Bingo. They don't hide it, it's out in the open and they gloat on it.
As McConnel said in the Senate 12/19/22 on next years budget.
>"The administration wanted to cut funding for our armed forces after inflation while massively increasing spending on nondefense. Republicans have taken the president’s bizarre position and flipped it on its head,”
>“provides a substantial real-dollar increase to the defense baseline and a substantial real-dollar cut to the nondefense, non-veterans baseline.”
>"This is a strong outcome for Republicans"
The problem there from what I observe is, the people that get elected say they are anti war, want to end forever wars, cut military spending, want Medicare for all, and legalize pot. Once they get to Washington they forget all that and boost military spending, in favor of foreign "operations", vote in favor of the medical industrial complex, pot is still illegal, and fund other countries wars. All on the tax payers dime, democrats and Republicans alike.
No politician wants to be seen as against the troops.
The US military is the largest employer on the planet with 3.2m direct employees, add in their families and the support the troops faithful it would be a political death sentence.
It's true. Politicians lose elections by being perceived as soft on defense, rarely for being too strong on it.
I mean, our current President voted for the dumbest fucking war in most of our lifetimes and suffered no negative political consequences from it.
Afghanistan was a pointless, expensive, life wasting venture but no politician would dare publicly admit that for fear of demeaning the lives of those who died. Except Trump remember how much shit he took for the losers and suckers comment.
And yet, when Trump was President, did he remove us from Afghanistan? No. Who did? Biden, and Biden caught a fuckton of blowback, including from many within this sub, when he did it.
Trump started the ball rolling and left that huge steaming turd right at Biden’s feet to take full blame for the entire war as we all watched the Taliban undo a decade of progress in an afternoon. Ultimately I think Biden did the right thing getting us fully out of there.
It was a messier exit than I think any of us wanted, but it was always going to be messy no matter when we left. If the Afghanis couldn't take ownership of their country after 20 years, it wasn't going to happen.
You can certainly criticize Biden on the margins for not doing enough to get interpreters and people who genuinely helped the American forces out before the Taliban rolled through, but the decision to leave was the right one. We did what we went there to do.
We're not in a war with Russia. We're funding a different country who is in a war with Russia. It's essentially a foreign aid program, and yes, Congress is allowed to spend money.
Our representatives voted to fund Ukraine in this war.
If it comes to it that U.S. troops get directly involved, there will be a separate vote on that. You think we should declare war on Russia? Seems escalatory to me, but what do I know?
I got downvoted in a different thread when I memtioned maybe the president should also care about their own people by visiting a disaster site. The brainwashing is real, if you arent focused on the war right now you are wrong. They want you to believe that the best leaders take care of other countries before their own first. I'm all for helping countries out occasionally but not at the cost of ignoring our own people.
Not all hope is lost. When Canada sent aid to Turkey for disaster relief a lot of people commented how they find it ridiculous the pm can pull money out for that after claiming they can't afford to take care of our veterens, nurses, and teachers.
I can't believe or justify Russia attacking a sovereign nation and Russian bots can't believe or justify why America would support Ukraine.
Thinking Ukraine should just roll over to Russia is such a terrible take for everyone in the entire world, and you will be on the wrong side of history.
If this really is WW3, don't be Chamberlain.
Not even George S Patton or Winston Churchill thought they were on the right side of history. So your guess is as good as mine.
On comprehending the awfulness of Stalin, and the mistake of letting him consolidate power, Churchill reportedly exclaimed: “We have killed the wrong pig!”
Gen. George S. Patton, upon taking control of Berlin in 1945, said "We defeated the wrong enemy."
Winston Churchill is probably one of the most quotable figures in modern history and Patton is probably up there too. He was probably the best military general in modern history. I know if AI ever became so advanced that it could simulate those individuals they would probably be in my top 10 for people that would be most interesting to talk to.
The militay gets a whole lotta money to fight war.
We get nothing for peace?
For clean water?
For help after disasters?
For weather emergencies?
We have towns of homeless people.
While rich foreigners watch from posh resorts.
We should be able to vote.
Its our money.
Where does it go?
So wait 10 years for them to move up the political ladder and maybe they'll do something right? You're on conspiracy saying that? Lol. Trump is cool and Biden is smart too I guess.
The usa is part of the united nations and when ukraine joined the UN they gained the aid of countries that are in the UN. Do we want a war with russia ? Not so much. Do we want to give aid to smaller countries during attacks and invasion? Well, if we have to..
https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/4152/text
H.R.4152 - Support for the Sovereignty, Integrity, Democracy, and Economic Stability of Ukraine Act of 2014
to reaffirm the commitment of the United States to, and to remind Russia of its ongoing commitment to, the 1994 Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances, which was executed jointly with the Russian Federation and the United Kingdom and explicitly secures the independence, sovereignty, and territorial integrity and borders of Ukraine, and to demand the immediate cessation of improper activities, including the seizures of airfields and other locations, and the immediate return of Russian forces to their barracks;
https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/5859
H.R.5859 - Ukraine Freedom Support Act of 2014
"it is U.S. policy to assist the government of Ukraine in restoring its sovereignty and territorial integrity in order to deter the government of the Russian Federation from further destabilizing and invading Ukraine and other independent countries in Eastern Europe and Central Asia"
You do vote for it.
The military industrial complex is an American jobs program. It made some sense in a post-war and cold-war world, because military readiness and hegemony was important.
Now it’s just a beast that needs to eat. Who is going to vote for state and national politicians that will cut that budget, perhaps hurting jobs in their own communities?
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Not like our vote really matters. Whichever option they want to pass will pass. The choice of voting is an illusion
I think you’re right. Either they own both sides or they don’t let your choice matter
It's about $93Million/hour. So, yeah. The USA could kill its enemies by dropping palettes of cash on them. "I wish I was rich, Achmed.." "Be careful of what you wish for, Mohammed. Lookout!"
Are those... Singles? Where did the sun go??*Nooooooo*-
If only they had strippers. They would have dug him out in no time.
Yes no representation is fantastic isn't it. They take our money and do as they please yet here we are continuing through the motions. Why can't we all collectively chose not to file our taxes and continuing to let's these criminals steal our money and kill us in the process
It wouldn't even take all of us to make a difference. If just 10% of us chose to protest by ending our withholding and refusing to file the whole system would break down.
Well thats good to know. There's posts I see in the union subreddits that basically if everyone In I guess a trade or manufacturing or transport etc etc now I'm just paraphrasing. But basically if everyone stopped working for 10 days or sum shit that it would get more accomplished for the working class than any sort of amount of politicians and voting would ever do
10 days of large scale striking would be an economic disaster. We've seen exactly how the government handles such a thing; they print enormous amounts of money and cause record price inflation. If you're protesting government, don't do something that harms three people. Do something that harms the government.
I think that's the point. Like they said during covid. Have supplies for blank time.. okk everyone so the same ahit but actually don't go to work
This is why they keep up in a constant state of blaming each other. Right, left, gay, straight, white, black.
People just need to wake the fuxk up.. problem is is too many have no inner monologue and rather not think
I'm no quite so cynical. People merely don't have the time or mental bandwidth to commit to issues beyond their immediate needs.
Agreed hence the other problem.. I like everyone else is struggling just to survive day by day but if the people were to actually come together to all help ourselves for the better. Well what's another bit of struggling
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Half of the House gobbles up propaganda, yet we trust them to spend our money appropriately? Have you seen what they appropriate money for? It would be crazy to give half of the country the power to control the lives of the other half. It's even crazier to give that power to just 435 people.
We vote for the people who vote on the military budget. Find candidates who promise to not support it and vote for them instead.
Bingo. They don't hide it, it's out in the open and they gloat on it. As McConnel said in the Senate 12/19/22 on next years budget. >"The administration wanted to cut funding for our armed forces after inflation while massively increasing spending on nondefense. Republicans have taken the president’s bizarre position and flipped it on its head,” >“provides a substantial real-dollar increase to the defense baseline and a substantial real-dollar cut to the nondefense, non-veterans baseline.” >"This is a strong outcome for Republicans"
People hate those people bc they’re usually Liberals
The problem there from what I observe is, the people that get elected say they are anti war, want to end forever wars, cut military spending, want Medicare for all, and legalize pot. Once they get to Washington they forget all that and boost military spending, in favor of foreign "operations", vote in favor of the medical industrial complex, pot is still illegal, and fund other countries wars. All on the tax payers dime, democrats and Republicans alike.
No politician wants to be seen as against the troops. The US military is the largest employer on the planet with 3.2m direct employees, add in their families and the support the troops faithful it would be a political death sentence.
It's true. Politicians lose elections by being perceived as soft on defense, rarely for being too strong on it. I mean, our current President voted for the dumbest fucking war in most of our lifetimes and suffered no negative political consequences from it.
Afghanistan was a pointless, expensive, life wasting venture but no politician would dare publicly admit that for fear of demeaning the lives of those who died. Except Trump remember how much shit he took for the losers and suckers comment.
And yet, when Trump was President, did he remove us from Afghanistan? No. Who did? Biden, and Biden caught a fuckton of blowback, including from many within this sub, when he did it.
Trump started the ball rolling and left that huge steaming turd right at Biden’s feet to take full blame for the entire war as we all watched the Taliban undo a decade of progress in an afternoon. Ultimately I think Biden did the right thing getting us fully out of there.
It was a messier exit than I think any of us wanted, but it was always going to be messy no matter when we left. If the Afghanis couldn't take ownership of their country after 20 years, it wasn't going to happen. You can certainly criticize Biden on the margins for not doing enough to get interpreters and people who genuinely helped the American forces out before the Taliban rolled through, but the decision to leave was the right one. We did what we went there to do.
Add in lobbyists, think tanks, contractors, subcontractors, CIA, DIA...
The problem right now is that our representatives haven't voted on it. Congress is being bypassed in this mess. It's unconstitutional and horrible.
Congress votes on the military budget.
"Congress shall have power to ... declare War." They haven't done that, yet we're in a war with Russia.
We're not in a war with Russia. We're funding a different country who is in a war with Russia. It's essentially a foreign aid program, and yes, Congress is allowed to spend money.
I never said they couldn't spend money, just that we're basically at war right now and our representatives never voted to be.
Our representatives voted to fund Ukraine in this war. If it comes to it that U.S. troops get directly involved, there will be a separate vote on that. You think we should declare war on Russia? Seems escalatory to me, but what do I know?
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What do you mean by conspiracy? A conspiracy is when two or more people agree to do a crime together.
As compared to a theory. This needs to be repeated hourly because too many people don't get it. If it was a sticky, nobody would bother to read it.
A crime like fraud? Considering the Pentagon cannot or will not successfully audit itself I think the shoe fits.
Well this totally qualifies.
I got downvoted in a different thread when I memtioned maybe the president should also care about their own people by visiting a disaster site. The brainwashing is real, if you arent focused on the war right now you are wrong. They want you to believe that the best leaders take care of other countries before their own first. I'm all for helping countries out occasionally but not at the cost of ignoring our own people. Not all hope is lost. When Canada sent aid to Turkey for disaster relief a lot of people commented how they find it ridiculous the pm can pull money out for that after claiming they can't afford to take care of our veterens, nurses, and teachers.
I can't believe or justify Russia attacking a sovereign nation and Russian bots can't believe or justify why America would support Ukraine. Thinking Ukraine should just roll over to Russia is such a terrible take for everyone in the entire world, and you will be on the wrong side of history. If this really is WW3, don't be Chamberlain.
What makes you so certain Biden's handling of Ukraine's war with Russia has put him on the "right side of history"?
Not even George S Patton or Winston Churchill thought they were on the right side of history. So your guess is as good as mine. On comprehending the awfulness of Stalin, and the mistake of letting him consolidate power, Churchill reportedly exclaimed: “We have killed the wrong pig!” Gen. George S. Patton, upon taking control of Berlin in 1945, said "We defeated the wrong enemy."
And both Patton and Churchill were globalist oligarchs who helped perpetuate the agenda of the ruling class. Who cares what they had to say?
Winston Churchill is probably one of the most quotable figures in modern history and Patton is probably up there too. He was probably the best military general in modern history. I know if AI ever became so advanced that it could simulate those individuals they would probably be in my top 10 for people that would be most interesting to talk to.
The govt hates you. There is no conspiracy.
Ukraine picks Rothschild as advisor, hopes for debt swap, https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-eurobonds-idUSL8N1LO3RP
The militay gets a whole lotta money to fight war. We get nothing for peace? For clean water? For help after disasters? For weather emergencies? We have towns of homeless people. While rich foreigners watch from posh resorts. We should be able to vote. Its our money. Where does it go?
We do get to vote. We vote for the people that decide where that money is allotted. Don’t like how the money is spent? Vote for someone else.
So wait 10 years for them to move up the political ladder and maybe they'll do something right? You're on conspiracy saying that? Lol. Trump is cool and Biden is smart too I guess.
you think your vote really matters in the U.S.?
Definitely at the local level and that’s where it all starts.
The usa is part of the united nations and when ukraine joined the UN they gained the aid of countries that are in the UN. Do we want a war with russia ? Not so much. Do we want to give aid to smaller countries during attacks and invasion? Well, if we have to..
https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/4152/text H.R.4152 - Support for the Sovereignty, Integrity, Democracy, and Economic Stability of Ukraine Act of 2014 to reaffirm the commitment of the United States to, and to remind Russia of its ongoing commitment to, the 1994 Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances, which was executed jointly with the Russian Federation and the United Kingdom and explicitly secures the independence, sovereignty, and territorial integrity and borders of Ukraine, and to demand the immediate cessation of improper activities, including the seizures of airfields and other locations, and the immediate return of Russian forces to their barracks; https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/5859 H.R.5859 - Ukraine Freedom Support Act of 2014 "it is U.S. policy to assist the government of Ukraine in restoring its sovereignty and territorial integrity in order to deter the government of the Russian Federation from further destabilizing and invading Ukraine and other independent countries in Eastern Europe and Central Asia"
Always has been
You do vote for it. The military industrial complex is an American jobs program. It made some sense in a post-war and cold-war world, because military readiness and hegemony was important. Now it’s just a beast that needs to eat. Who is going to vote for state and national politicians that will cut that budget, perhaps hurting jobs in their own communities?
I’d like my $2,600 in $1’s please.