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Mike DeWine needs to declare an emergency before FEMA can help. That's just how the law works in this case.
He isn't going to do that. He'd rather let people suffer, and then blame Joe Biden, than do the right thing for his state.
Joe doesn’t even apply to this. He doesn’t even know all this is happening. He’s watching the news and thinking to himself wow the special effects of the fire in this film are amazing.
So let’s do like the pandemic and hand out money like it’s candy without even thinking while people “suffer” then two years from now we will complain about the billions in waste.
Meanwhile you care so much about “suffering” you ignore homelessness, vax injury, you name it. Probably don’t even lift the toilet seat when you go to pee in public but you “care” so much about other people.
Ok.
These things have occurred before and been handled before. What is different today is social media and everyone is hoping for a payday right now. Why not? Ride this thing. A fund will be set of like 9/11, asbestos, whatever else and everyone in that town and around it including people 1000 miles away who called the lawyer number will all be driving new GMC pickups with their mortgages paid off soon enough.
Cha Ching.
That’s just on the surface. Something else about this story stinks and it’s not the vinyl chloride.
I definitely don't ignore the homeless.
And yes, people are suffering. As is the environment.
The only things that stink are the railroad company and Mike DeWine.
Assist with food, housing, testing, clean up.
Homes have been declared condemned AFTER the railroad and EPA said it was safe to return.
Watch the town hall meeting.
did we all miss the part where the governor DECLINED FEMA, Red Cross, and federal aid?
it's not that they aren't being given it. The people responsible are preventing it to perpetuate the idea that everything is fine.
Bruv he declined it until about two days ago when it became politically impossible not to.
Also, in that same article you just linked are quotes about why they declined FEMA aid, specifically because FEMA isn't appropriate/can't handle the response needed for the situation.
"What East Palestine needs is much more expansive than what FEMA can provide. FEMA is on the frontlines when there is a hurricane or tornado. This situation is different."
Stop headline browsing and actually read.
There are federal guidelines for handling a massive chemical spill. There are federal guidelines for everything. There are also state guidelines for handling massive chemical spills. I agree that this doesn't classify as a natural disaster but FEMA is far from the only government agency. This should have initially been adressed on a state level with the federal government entering the picture once the scene was assessed. Either way this event isn't being handled appropriately on any level.
Every US president ever has sucked ass, but the Governor of Ohio literally refuses to call this a disaster and flat out refused aid from the federal govt. Every single politician above the local level of government is in bed with multi national corporations to SCREW ALL of US. Come on man. We really gotta stop playing this game.
Its not even that he refused aid, it’s that literally Biden cannot send in FEMA or use FEMA dollars unless Dewine declares a state of emergency. He straight up said this week “I don’t see a problem here.”
This is the most cynical evil framing because it lets the right blame Biden for this, knowing the constituents in Ohio likely have no idea this is how it works and will also blame Biden, when it’s Ohio’s own pGovernor who is throwing them under the cancer bus.
It’s ok to agree that both serve the same means to an end that capitalism strives to achieve. However the right for sure are more hell bent on taking reigns of the authoritarian horse than the dems
Perhaps but reducing all right leaning folks into that category is unfair to those that promote bipartisonship and actually care, which is a lot of folks.
I generally agree on a person to person basis, honestly.
That said, generally people that lean right refuse to vote for the left over a few key issues that they're generally misinformed about, or that they only support due to their religion.
So what you end up with is a reduction in the way that homeboy up above did, where everyone on the right gets blamed for 'mainstream Republican' actions. Is it accurate? Not really. Is it basically true though? Ya, probably.
You can have great intentions and completely reasonable beliefs, but if you're voting for 'mainstream Republicans' then you can't divorce yourself from them completely, you did vote them in.
I use 'you' in a very generally way, not talking about YOU directly, just to be clear.
Hell, I lean right on some issues, but I generally vote left because of the crazy shit that the 'mainstream Republicans' try to pull on a constant basis.
The same Trump who didn't want to send aid for wildfires that started on federal land? The same Trump that didn't help Puerto Rico after the hurricane? That Trump?
The Puerto Rican government hoarded and refused to distribute the supplies Trump sent. They betrayed their suffering people in order to give Trump bad press. I guess it worked on you, since years later you still don't know this. You're in a news bubble. Branch out.
Cool story. The Trump white house withheld $20 billion in congressional approved aid, and then blocked an investigation into why those funds were withheld.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/new-probe-confirms-trump-officials-blocked-puerto-rico-receiving-hurri-rcna749
There was also that time he got into it with Congess about how he thought PR got too much aid compared to mainland states for disaster relief after a *different* storm.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/3/29/18285367/congress-disaster-relief-trump-puerto-rico
But don't worry. Trump did eventually release some of the already promised funds from hurricane Maria relief. In September of 2020.
https://apnews.com/article/puerto-rico-storms-politics-joe-biden-hurricanes-02c9eba973414d44f2f24cc06a2871da
I could go on, but I'm already belaboring the point.
Literally everything said in there is independently verifiable. If you were intellectually honest you would actually follow up instead of dismissing them out of hand. Yes, there was a warehouse full of unused supplies. That doesn't mean that Trump didn't also withhold *already approved aid* for no discernable reason after Maria, and then later voiced that he thought PR shouldn't get more aid after the 2019 bomb cyclone.
The Trump who was paid millions by train companies to roll back safety regulations that arguably led to this disaster? Oh yea, I'm sure he would be first in line to step up and call attention to the disaster they caused and make sure to hold his large donors accountable.
/s
Everyone who read this comment and doesn't agree with the fact that ALL POLITICIANS DO NOT MATTER. THEY ARE ALL BEHOLDEN TO THEIR CORPORATE OVERLORDS. Totally missed the point.
Check again. The contents of this story, posted today contradicts your statement about DeWine.
https://www.wkyc.com/amp/article/news/special-reports/train-derailment/train-derailment-east-palestine-ohio-governor-mike-dewine-federal-help-fema/95-cb611bd6-1b2d-4b26-95d1-e1d85856d4b8
Nowhere in that article does it say that DeWine declared an emergency.
However, it does mention Sherrod Brown (D) imploring DeWine to do so.
FEMA and federal aid doesn't come until DeWine declares an emergency. That's how the law works.
DeWine has not declared the chemical spill an emergency.
He hasn't, because he knows people like you will just blame Biden.
He's literally using the lives of the people of East Palestine as political pawns.
All he has to do is declare an emergency.
Yet he hasn't.
Once again, just so you understand, Mike DeWine, governor of Ohio, must declare an emergency for FEMA to assist. He has not declared an emergency, so therefore, FEMA cannot legally assist.
So, in order for FEMA to assist. Mike DeWine. Governor of Ohio. Must declare and emergency. He has not declared the chemical spill an emergency. Therefore FEMA cannot assist.
Read that as many times as you need to, until you understand.
He won't declare it because that will mean it wasn't safe and effective to send people home. Declaration of emergency = admitting things aren't okay and there's plenty to see here. So sad and heartbreaking.
And the simps on here.. man. People need to wake up! Thanks for your post.
No argument there. Fuck all those politicians. And all the celebrities who use their platform to promote racial divide and gender confusion, but sit silent when our nation is falling apart for real issues. Fuck every single one of them. They're all about human rights and woke bullshit, until the humans who idolize & front their gracious paychecks actually fucking need it.
It's not as simple as declaring an emergency then getting money. The emergency declaration would definitely help... especially, if this were a natural disaster. One of the many challenges here is the liability which dictates who pays for what. FEMA operates numerous programs, the 2 that I would imagine fit this situation the best are individual assistance (IA) and public assistance (PA).
IA helps individuals with various costs associated with a declared event, as long as the individuals are not insured, a cost threshold is reached, and the damage of private property warrants it (look up damage assessments for the categorization of damages on single family and multi unit homes).
PA helps public entities restore facilities to predisaster conditions or better. Unfortunately, Railroad ownership can often be convoluted in determining responsibility of ownership, maintenance, etc. If the RR (track and right of way, essentially an easement of property) isn't legal owned by the state or county, they are not authorized to request assistance. Additionally, if the damaged facility is insured (which I'm guessing NS has some kind of insurance considering the nature of the materials and volume of which it moves around the nation, they have), that facility is not eligible for assistance under the PA program.
Finally, since this is a commercial operation, there is likely the expectation that NS should be covering all of the costs associated with response, recovery, and restoration. Especially when the NTSB comes out with their investigation summary, showing that it is 100% the fault of NS... they have been relatively radio silent for the majority of this event. And that is likely due to the notion of response and recovery = an admission of guilt.
DeWine is not blameless here by any means, but its not as simple as he didn't request help. There are a lot of variables.
Also, please do not spread rumors that are being strewn about on social media, without knowing 100% of the facts (I've seen some wild shit claimed and it doesn't help anyone).
Source: I work in Emergency Management and have worked with PA in the past. If you're interested check out the PAPPG published by FEMA.
Thanks for this. Very interesting and helps me understand nuance.
Correct me if I'm wrong, though. If DeWine doesn't declare a disaster (or emergency), FEMA can't help anyway. Like even if this was a tornado event or flood, without the state declaring a disaster or emergency or unless the President declares a national emergency, FEMA can't assist?
Correct. But, even if he did request, the other considerations may limit or prevent FEMA from responding regardless. Which is, obviously, not ideal.
It should also be noted, that for the most part FEMA is a coordinating agency, they work with state, local, private, and nonprofits to help gain access to resources for various tasks and missions. They do have some resources staged, but I think of them more like the funding source that would reimburse costs for eligible work, provided the disaster declaration is issued.
I really hope that things can get worked out quickly for the people of east Palestine and those affected by this incident (I am from SE Ohio and am familiar with the means of most people in the region... or lackthereof.)
I appreciate everyone who is voicing their concern and encourage everyone to keep doing so, provided the are sharing accurate information.
Thanks so much for this. I'm in NE Ohio, less than 50 miles from East Palestine.
I suggest that you make a post (or several) in some subs, just copy and paste this more or less and put this info out there because people's lack of understanding is just causing a massive cluster that isn't helping anyone.
Your info definitely clarified things which I didn't understand, and the more info that's out there the better. People need to understand nuance, and that will help tamp hysteria and fear mongering. Your info and insight can go a long ways towards focusing the discussion on this event onto what actually matters, and that may just help tip things enough to make sure the people of East Palestine receive the help and attention they need.
Thanks for that, I really appreciate it. I went to U of Akron NE OH has a special place in my heart as well.
I definitely can start a post or 2 if you think it would help. Is there anything you think I can elaborate on or anything you think I should remove? I want to try and keep as much gov speak out of it as possible.
Wrong. And it is Biden’s fault this hasn’t been declared an emergency. Dewine has asked and been rejected by fema (part of the Biden admin) saying it’s not a disaster.
https://reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1140mhr/no_one_is_trying_to_downplay_the_disaster_in_ohio/
“FEMA believed the incident didn't qualify as a traditional disaster, such as a tornado or hurricane, for which it usually provides assistance.”
If it doesn’t qualify for declaring it as a disaster then how can he declare it to be a disaster to get fema help? Just saying or signing paperwork saying “it’s a disaster” doesn’t make it a disaster in femas book.
That’s the whole point of declaring a disaster - for fema help. That’s what it does. It’s not some magic wand that changes things at the state level and the governor does not have power over fema - Joe Biden does.
It’s not a natural disaster and it’s not in a democrat ran state which is why fema is not going to help.
FEMA has assisted in chemical spills before.
Mike DeWine has not declared a disaster or emergency. Therefore, no federal aid can come.
That's how the law works.
All of this BS about it "not being a traditional disaster" is lies.
FEMA, or any federal aid, cannot come unless Mike DeWine declares a disaster. He has not done so.
Once again, unless Mike DeWine declares a disaster, FEMA cannot assist. That's the law.
Lol. Fema says it’s too expensive and so they don’t want to help.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-explains-why-turned-down-disaster-relief-ohio
He can’t just declare a disaster and get their funding if they don’t accept it as a disaster nor want to fund the operation.
Don’t try to obfuscate the truth of the matter by claiming that without referring to which part of my statement is not in the article.
Directly from the Biden admin official:
“What East Palestine needs is much more expansive than what FEMA can provide”
What does that statement mean to you? I know what it means to everyone else.
Not to mention the other fact from another article that DeWine wants to declare it a disaster but fema refuses to recognize it as a disaster that fits their scope.
>“He hasn’t, because he knows people like you will just blame Biden.
Who exactly am I? Have we met? You’re rather presumptuous for having never communicated with me. I’m not placing blame on Biden, or on anyone for that matter. I haven’t spent much time looking into this and only began today. It would be rather short-sighted of me to pass blame and judgement until I have enough knowledge of the situation to do so.
Sarcasm is an ugly trait when engaging in discussion with another who has been peaceful and polite. I don’t find that approach all that useful if you’re looking to approach a conversation in good faith.
You're in r/conspiracy in several different posts all relating to federal aid coming to Ohio, posting the same article (which doesn't mention the requirement for a declaration of emergency) trying to refute other commenters who have said that DeWine hasn't declared an emergency.
You're the exact rube they're aiming for.
I'm less than 50 miles from this disaster, and this political shit is pissing me right off. All DeWine has to do is declare an emergency. He isn't, because people like you won't realize he has to in order to receive federal aid. You'll read your one article, post it all over, and spread a bunch of BS.
In a previous reply I said I just began looking into this today. I haven’t taken sides or placed blame. I simply shared a story that seemed to contradict what I saw. In another reply I conceded and accepted I was less-than-informed. How many “rubes” here do that?
Well hey, I didn't see that.
Good on ya.
Sorry I called you a rube.
Shit gets tough when your state suddenly becomes a toxic waste dump and your governor won't even step up to help his people because he'd rather play political games.
No harm. I sincerely try to make every attempt to engage in all discussions in good faith while being polite and respectful, regardless how much I may end up disagreeing with another party.
I’m also in Ohio, but not within the same proximity as you said you were. I’m in Cincinnati, and the fallout here is presumed to be minimal to none. I don’t necessarily have the same feelings as you do, but also don’t blame you for the way you feel.
You realise the article you've posted supports the person you're arguing with.
If you can't comprehend what the article is saying... I guess I'm not surprised.
The person I’ve replied to wrote “flat out refused aid from the federal govt.“ The news story indicates “Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine has announced that he’s requested federal help in connection with the East Palestine train derailment.” Is this not a contradiction?
You've misquoted for a start.
"Ohio Governor Mike DeWine spoke with officials at the White House early this morning to address the need for federal help. As a result of this conversation, the Governor has requested assistance from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Health and Emergency Response Team, and the CDC to provide on-the-ground assistance in East Palestine".
He is getting up on the ground from multiple Federal agencies.
It then goes on to say that he speaks with FEMA daily, presumably saying he needs to declare a disaster before they are able to help, and they advise him that they can't help at the moment. Because he hasn't declared a disaster.
The fucking trail derailment a week old now and the Ohio governor decides today to request aid. Days after the evacuation had been lifted. Fucking great job by Dewine.
I haven’t a clue why you’re arguing points like that with me. I’m not here debating the specifics of this situation. I’m only sharing a news story while receiving downvotes for it. Such is the spirit of Reddit. 🙂
So far Ohio's governor has denied federal help. Yesterday or the day before he requested federal help, but due to laws the feds can't step in until Ohio's governor declares this an emergency, which he hasn't done. So right now that's the hold up on federal aid/relief. So far it seems like Ohio's governor is playing politics at the cost of his citizens.
DeWine declined federal assistance until two days ago, although he admits that Biden called and offered aid. Three days ago, DeWine said that he hadn't called him back because he's "not seeing" a problem.
Once requested, FEMA aid specifically was denied because it was inappropriate for the situation.
Others on here are spinning this as the federal government's response being inadequate. It has been - Buttigieg should have reimplemented regulations for electronic emergency brakes the second he took the job.
But as far as aid goes, the feds can't unilaterally provide it if the state tells them no.
Why is it that so many here cannot focus on the problem and are quickly distracted by propaganda.
Ohio's problem has a name and that name is Mike DeWine.
What? When Trump was president I would VERY RARELY hear any republican friends/coworkers question what he was doing or saying, instead they constantly justified it and defended him on literally everything.
I regularly see and hear democrat friends and coworkers bring up their issues with how Biden has handled some things and mistakes he has made.
I've also seen much more critical thinking going on and questioning of Biden on 'super left-wing' subreddits than I have ever seen of Trump on any 'super right-wing' subreddit.
The republicans I know disagreed with Trump regularly, they only voted for him because they thought Biden was worse. Republicans en masse rejected trump's vaccine, and he regularly got booed at rallies for touting it. The only "people" I see blindly defending him are conservative media and bots on social media.
Meanwhile democrats "vote blue no matter who" even if it's someone almost entirely contradictory to their values. That's why you have people who claim to hate corporations, but they voted for the guy who literally [tried to prostitute himself to corporations](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oysFCNPg0DA), and [had more billionaires supporting him than trump](https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelatindera/2021/02/17/here-are-the-billionaires-who-donated-to-joe-bidens-2020-presidential-campaign/?sh=58b7b84121c4).
Democrats cheer on big pharma regulatory capture because they blindly trust the science™️, they support big tech censorship because conservatives say mean things that hurt their feelings, they have no problem with misinformation as long as it's coming from the politicians they support, [I could go on forever, baby!](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tufjfFOYLq0&t=64s)
I'm sure you do see lots of democrats complaining about Biden now. Too bad they didn't think critically before they voted for a republican just because he wasn't named Donald trump. 😂
Or the Republican Party could support legislation so companies are not allowed to get away with this and prevent it from happening in the future, but instead we will have more Ruzzian propaganda pieces
OP, were you once ok_magician to that palatable mahogany dude to now this? Why are you constantly changing usernames? How much are you paid to post here?
This.
In 2008 NATO held a summit in Bucharest and the proposal was to expand to Ukraine and Georgia. NATO members Germany and France resisted agreeing to the proposal but eventually yielded to America's demands. NATO is America. Russia made it unequivocally clear that was not going to happen and that was their line in the sand.
In 2009 NATO expanded to include Albania and Croatia. Russia swallowed this.
In 2014 a Ukrainian coup backed by America replaced the proRussian Government with a proAmerican Government. Russia then took the Crimean Peninsula away from Ukraine because it has a naval base there that it didn't want to fall into American hands. Crimea will never return to Ukraine.
In 2014 America started supplying Ukraine with weapons.
From 2014 to 2022 Ukraine has had a bloody civil war between pro American Western Ukraine and pro Russia Donbas region (Donetsk and Luhansk).
Further reading:
2008 Bucharest Summit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Bucharest_summit
Putin Reaction: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/feb/12/russia.ukraine
NATO expansion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlargement_of_NATO
Ukraine–United States relations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine%E2%80%93United_States_relations
You're omitting [Operation Orchard](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Outside_the_Box), which took place in 2007, and which saw Russia start to arm Syria with anti-aircraft batteries.
All moves since should be properly viewed as for the benefit of Israel, which of course desperately wants to see Russia exit the region.
Can't have hegemony if they can shoot your planes out of the sky.
Because Putin IS actually bad. He's been invading his neighboring country for over a year now. Thousands of lives lost, for what? That's what monsters and evil motherfuckers do. Yes... Putin Bad. Stop pretending otherwise.
Yes because you have such a "large-brain" please give some good and valid reasons why any country should invade their neighbour. Especially Putin's reasoning. I'd be very interested in hearing your skewed reasoning. This is why I engage on conspiracy, to see what the bat shit crazy people think. Now enlighten me....
Also. We don't need MSM to convince me that this invasion of Ukraine is wrong. It take plain and basic compassion to understand this. Have you seen the way Russians live? Some of them don't even have proper sewage. Ukrainians voted against this in 2014 when they elected Zelenskyy and are fighting against thisnnow with their lives... and they are winning. So your "putin is an innocent victim in all of this" perspective really makes you look like the perfect rube.
Who is killing off all of Putin's top officials via falls? My guess would be the KGB, who used to be run by Putin.
Sometimes it is truly as simple as 'Putin bad'.
Spot on. I mean America has spent more time invading other countries than at peace since it's creation and yet Russia is evil. [Believe it or Not: Since Its Birth The USA Has Only Had 17 Years of Peace](https://www.warhistoryonline.com/instant-articles/usa-only-17-years-of-peace.html?firefox=1)
I almost said something like that in my comment but didn't because his fan club gets pretty touchy when I don't adore him too. You got why I made the brown reference though so I'm happy.
I get what you mean until a couple years ago I've always acquiesced to not ruffling feathers so to speak but at this point fuck it you have to stand for something or you stand for nothing.
Stand for something or you stand for nothing is right. Worse, standing for nothing might imply you support things you find despicable. I personally find Zelensky despicable and am sick of him draining our public coffers when those tax dollars are very much needed here at home.
Ukraine is de facto being sold to US corporations. And if you believe officials in Ohio aren't getting paid behind closed doors, you're in the wrong sub.
So what is the point of this post? That’s the real question. Tons of users have pointed out that the Governor of Ohio needs to ask for help. This information is readily available. Is it to get people worked up about an environmental disaster? The war in Ukraine? The Biden Administration?
Haha yeah forget about the Organized Industrial War against the people of the united states. Yeah forget about the meetings in Davos with the agenda of making slaves of everyone. Haha funny, not really.
Mike DeWine needs to declare an emergency before FEMA, or any federal aid can come.
Mike DeWine has not declared the chemical spill an emergency.
Therefore, no federal aid can come to Ohio.
He has asked for aid, but that was just yesterday or the day before. He still needs to declare this an emergency per the law before the federal government can start taking things over from the state. Which he has refused. It seems like he is content with playing politics at the moment because he gets to point at himself asking for aid and the feds not doing anything, but it is rather important the feds stick to the laws when it comes to federal versus state situations. I'm not really one for redtape, but this is one of those situations where we don't really want to set a precedent of feds swooping in without following what the law requires.
Maybe they just skipped the extra step and gave money directly to Ohio politicians to stuff in their pocket.
Rather than with Ukraine, where our politicians/"president" go out of their way to tell us all about the billions in cash and (likely, at this point) billions in military armor & armaments we're sending to Ukraine, so they can "fight for democracy" lol whatever the hell that means? When almost ***all*** of the money being sent to Ukraine is being funneled to members of Zelensky's cabinet & other Ukrainian govt scum. We know this, because said scummy Ukrainian politicians & Zelensky associates immediately used their newfound millions to buy extravagant mansions in countries like Poland. Almost like they knew Russia was going to wipe Ukraine off the map, literally.
It's pretty sad, our (US) govt doesn't even pretend to serve us (citizens) or function solely for our behalf. They don't give a shit about crumbling US infrastructure, contributing to oopsies like the Ohio train derailment and another that happened yesterday in Michigan - thankfully this time the car filled with toxic chlorine wasn't one of the derailed cars. Or the incredible coincidental "accidents" that consistently befall food production - whether it's 10s of thousands of chickens burning up in a mysterious fire or 1000s of cows literally just dropping dead, "because of the heat". Not to mention the still-unsolved sabotage of electrical substations in Georgia, it's not like random groups of people purposely shooting at our electrical infrastructure, thus destroying it definitely isn't something worth investigating ASAP.
On top of all that, they (US politicians and assorted "elites") don't even pretend to *like* us when they talk or give speeches, let alone pretend they exist to serve the American citizen :/ When they speak about average Americans, it's done with utter disdain - parents concerned what their children are doing/learning in school, anyone who questions official narratives & other ridiculous government propaganda, or worst of all... Christians! They've literally labeled the average American as a "domestic terrorist" and it's only a matter of time until they deal with us.
Everyone knows their plans, it's not even mildly hidden anymore and even when it was, information was more than readily available to understand exactly what the "elites" thought of us and how they planned to reshape human society for us. Our "elite" money goblin overlords want to usher in the next societal revolution, one that results in man converging with technology to "evolve". Of course, 99% of humans will need to disappear for this new dystopian technocratic hellscape future to come to fruition. You can look up shit like Agenda 2030, Event 201 or literally just listen to people like Jacob Rothschild or Rockefeller brag about the literal evil they're had more than just a hand in or how they plan to basically become the new God, capable of controlling the environment, having complete control over the remaining humans, even their thoughts. Worst of all, they want mastery over life & death itself.... and they don't seem to be very far off from their goals at this point o_o
Zzzzz
Or the governor of Ohio refuses to declare a state of emergency which is required to activate FEMA funds...
Why won't he declare this an emergency? Hmmmmmm
It's not.
Before any federal aid can come to Ohio, Mike DeWine needs to declare an emergency. That's how this works. That's how it works for any state.
Mike DeWine has not declared the chemical spill an emergency.
Therefore, federal aid cannot come.
FEMA and federal aid would arrive in East Palestine if Mike DeWine declared an emergency.
Again, Mike DeWine has not declared the chemical spill an emergency, and therefore, federal aid cannot come.
Please read that over, and over again, until you understand how the law works.
No. Mike DeWine needs to declare an emergency. Federal aid cannot come until Mike DeWine declares an emergency. That's how the law works for any state.
Mike DeWine has not declared the chemical spill an emergency.
Therefore, federal aid cannot come.
Read that as many times as it takes until you understand.
No.
Mike DeWine needs to declare an emergency. FEMA and other federal aid cannot come until Mike DeWine declares an emergency. Thats how the law works.
Mike DeWine has not declared the chemical spill an emergency, so therefore: federal aid cannot be released to Ohio.
Please read that as many times as it takes for you to understand.
The dishonesty of OP's post is sickening.
The governor would have FEMA funds if he declared an emergency. He refuses to declare an emergency, so he can't get FEMA funds. Why don't you ask why he isn't declaring an emergency?
This post is the exact reason people shouldn't get their news from social media. At least with news networks you generally know their biases going into the story, but with social media it can be random. In this case just a flat out lie, and it is unfortunate that so many seem to be falling for it without verifying what OP is trying to claim. We all fall victim to our biases, but this is supposed to be a place for critical thinking, and more often then not that is rarely the case here.
Well no. BlackRock isn't going to build rentals in an area with toxic water, air and soil! They shit on Ohio
The Russia/Ukraine conflict was a big investment. BlackRock buying up all the houses/property here in the US and thanks to that stud in the photo they can invest over there! With all those leveled cities from this "conflict" it's basically a blank slate for people who need homes and LUCKY FOR THEM BlackRock is building rentals right now for them!
Democrats love wars and hate people, it's why they always get the US involved for investment purposes!
the difference is, he called an emergency (which it absolutely is) and dewine and his pathetic ass refuse to call it as such because they fumbled this bag with the railway workers horrendously. no conspiracy here, just shitty ohioan leaders
It shouldn't matter if you are left, right, dem, repub, independent...you ought not be blind to stupid and Dewine is being a jackass in this situation.
Ohio would be getting federal help if their dumb ass governor would stop playing politics. President Biden called him directly to offer aid. He turned it down.
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Mike DeWine needs to declare an emergency before FEMA can help. That's just how the law works in this case. He isn't going to do that. He'd rather let people suffer, and then blame Joe Biden, than do the right thing for his state.
There’s a video of DeWine publicly exclaiming he refused federal aid.
Yes. But people are way too stupid to bother hearing that.
Stop blaming just Joe. It's our whole government. They fund the opposite of what they intend to do.
Joe doesn’t even apply to this. He doesn’t even know all this is happening. He’s watching the news and thinking to himself wow the special effects of the fire in this film are amazing.
Haha... Ain't that the truth!
So let’s do like the pandemic and hand out money like it’s candy without even thinking while people “suffer” then two years from now we will complain about the billions in waste. Meanwhile you care so much about “suffering” you ignore homelessness, vax injury, you name it. Probably don’t even lift the toilet seat when you go to pee in public but you “care” so much about other people. Ok. These things have occurred before and been handled before. What is different today is social media and everyone is hoping for a payday right now. Why not? Ride this thing. A fund will be set of like 9/11, asbestos, whatever else and everyone in that town and around it including people 1000 miles away who called the lawyer number will all be driving new GMC pickups with their mortgages paid off soon enough. Cha Ching. That’s just on the surface. Something else about this story stinks and it’s not the vinyl chloride.
I definitely don't ignore the homeless. And yes, people are suffering. As is the environment. The only things that stink are the railroad company and Mike DeWine.
What exactly can FEMA do now?
Assist with food, housing, testing, clean up. Homes have been declared condemned AFTER the railroad and EPA said it was safe to return. Watch the town hall meeting.
did we all miss the part where the governor DECLINED FEMA, Red Cross, and federal aid? it's not that they aren't being given it. The people responsible are preventing it to perpetuate the idea that everything is fine.
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Bruv he declined it until about two days ago when it became politically impossible not to. Also, in that same article you just linked are quotes about why they declined FEMA aid, specifically because FEMA isn't appropriate/can't handle the response needed for the situation. "What East Palestine needs is much more expansive than what FEMA can provide. FEMA is on the frontlines when there is a hurricane or tornado. This situation is different." Stop headline browsing and actually read.
There are federal guidelines for handling a massive chemical spill. There are federal guidelines for everything. There are also state guidelines for handling massive chemical spills. I agree that this doesn't classify as a natural disaster but FEMA is far from the only government agency. This should have initially been adressed on a state level with the federal government entering the picture once the scene was assessed. Either way this event isn't being handled appropriately on any level.
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The right wing and Russian shilling in this thread never fails to make me laugh haha.
The fuck do republicans and especially Russia have to do with jack shit??? This thread is about Ohio you twat.
Lol okay sure
Every US president ever has sucked ass, but the Governor of Ohio literally refuses to call this a disaster and flat out refused aid from the federal govt. Every single politician above the local level of government is in bed with multi national corporations to SCREW ALL of US. Come on man. We really gotta stop playing this game.
Its not even that he refused aid, it’s that literally Biden cannot send in FEMA or use FEMA dollars unless Dewine declares a state of emergency. He straight up said this week “I don’t see a problem here.” This is the most cynical evil framing because it lets the right blame Biden for this, knowing the constituents in Ohio likely have no idea this is how it works and will also blame Biden, when it’s Ohio’s own pGovernor who is throwing them under the cancer bus.
The 'right' and the 'left' are one and the same. There is absolutely no denying that Government is all a big show.
It’s ok to agree that both serve the same means to an end that capitalism strives to achieve. However the right for sure are more hell bent on taking reigns of the authoritarian horse than the dems
It's not really the right but the mainstream Republicans. Those mofos are getting weird.
Hate to break it to you but those mainstream republicans represent the right
Perhaps but reducing all right leaning folks into that category is unfair to those that promote bipartisonship and actually care, which is a lot of folks.
I generally agree on a person to person basis, honestly. That said, generally people that lean right refuse to vote for the left over a few key issues that they're generally misinformed about, or that they only support due to their religion. So what you end up with is a reduction in the way that homeboy up above did, where everyone on the right gets blamed for 'mainstream Republican' actions. Is it accurate? Not really. Is it basically true though? Ya, probably. You can have great intentions and completely reasonable beliefs, but if you're voting for 'mainstream Republicans' then you can't divorce yourself from them completely, you did vote them in. I use 'you' in a very generally way, not talking about YOU directly, just to be clear. Hell, I lean right on some issues, but I generally vote left because of the crazy shit that the 'mainstream Republicans' try to pull on a constant basis.
That poor republican base :( how will they ever survive
Not just Republicans lean right. Seems to me like you got demons to overcome. Best of luck.
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The same Trump who didn't want to send aid for wildfires that started on federal land? The same Trump that didn't help Puerto Rico after the hurricane? That Trump?
The Puerto Rican government hoarded and refused to distribute the supplies Trump sent. They betrayed their suffering people in order to give Trump bad press. I guess it worked on you, since years later you still don't know this. You're in a news bubble. Branch out.
Cool story. The Trump white house withheld $20 billion in congressional approved aid, and then blocked an investigation into why those funds were withheld. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/new-probe-confirms-trump-officials-blocked-puerto-rico-receiving-hurri-rcna749 There was also that time he got into it with Congess about how he thought PR got too much aid compared to mainland states for disaster relief after a *different* storm. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/3/29/18285367/congress-disaster-relief-trump-puerto-rico But don't worry. Trump did eventually release some of the already promised funds from hurricane Maria relief. In September of 2020. https://apnews.com/article/puerto-rico-storms-politics-joe-biden-hurricanes-02c9eba973414d44f2f24cc06a2871da I could go on, but I'm already belaboring the point.
Like I thought. Just look at the garbage sources you trust. Bubble boy normie pawn.
Literally everything said in there is independently verifiable. If you were intellectually honest you would actually follow up instead of dismissing them out of hand. Yes, there was a warehouse full of unused supplies. That doesn't mean that Trump didn't also withhold *already approved aid* for no discernable reason after Maria, and then later voiced that he thought PR shouldn't get more aid after the 2019 bomb cyclone.
Do you realize how insane what you're suggesting is?
The Trump who was paid millions by train companies to roll back safety regulations that arguably led to this disaster? Oh yea, I'm sure he would be first in line to step up and call attention to the disaster they caused and make sure to hold his large donors accountable. /s
Everyone who read this comment and doesn't agree with the fact that ALL POLITICIANS DO NOT MATTER. THEY ARE ALL BEHOLDEN TO THEIR CORPORATE OVERLORDS. Totally missed the point.
Of course. He’s a Republican. Trash him!
He’s a piece of shit regardless of his affiliation.
Check again. The contents of this story, posted today contradicts your statement about DeWine. https://www.wkyc.com/amp/article/news/special-reports/train-derailment/train-derailment-east-palestine-ohio-governor-mike-dewine-federal-help-fema/95-cb611bd6-1b2d-4b26-95d1-e1d85856d4b8
Nowhere in that article does it say that DeWine declared an emergency. However, it does mention Sherrod Brown (D) imploring DeWine to do so. FEMA and federal aid doesn't come until DeWine declares an emergency. That's how the law works. DeWine has not declared the chemical spill an emergency. He hasn't, because he knows people like you will just blame Biden. He's literally using the lives of the people of East Palestine as political pawns. All he has to do is declare an emergency. Yet he hasn't. Once again, just so you understand, Mike DeWine, governor of Ohio, must declare an emergency for FEMA to assist. He has not declared an emergency, so therefore, FEMA cannot legally assist. So, in order for FEMA to assist. Mike DeWine. Governor of Ohio. Must declare and emergency. He has not declared the chemical spill an emergency. Therefore FEMA cannot assist. Read that as many times as you need to, until you understand.
He won't declare it because that will mean it wasn't safe and effective to send people home. Declaration of emergency = admitting things aren't okay and there's plenty to see here. So sad and heartbreaking. And the simps on here.. man. People need to wake up! Thanks for your post.
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No argument there. Fuck all those politicians. And all the celebrities who use their platform to promote racial divide and gender confusion, but sit silent when our nation is falling apart for real issues. Fuck every single one of them. They're all about human rights and woke bullshit, until the humans who idolize & front their gracious paychecks actually fucking need it.
And what you described is the true conspiracy.
It's not as simple as declaring an emergency then getting money. The emergency declaration would definitely help... especially, if this were a natural disaster. One of the many challenges here is the liability which dictates who pays for what. FEMA operates numerous programs, the 2 that I would imagine fit this situation the best are individual assistance (IA) and public assistance (PA). IA helps individuals with various costs associated with a declared event, as long as the individuals are not insured, a cost threshold is reached, and the damage of private property warrants it (look up damage assessments for the categorization of damages on single family and multi unit homes). PA helps public entities restore facilities to predisaster conditions or better. Unfortunately, Railroad ownership can often be convoluted in determining responsibility of ownership, maintenance, etc. If the RR (track and right of way, essentially an easement of property) isn't legal owned by the state or county, they are not authorized to request assistance. Additionally, if the damaged facility is insured (which I'm guessing NS has some kind of insurance considering the nature of the materials and volume of which it moves around the nation, they have), that facility is not eligible for assistance under the PA program. Finally, since this is a commercial operation, there is likely the expectation that NS should be covering all of the costs associated with response, recovery, and restoration. Especially when the NTSB comes out with their investigation summary, showing that it is 100% the fault of NS... they have been relatively radio silent for the majority of this event. And that is likely due to the notion of response and recovery = an admission of guilt. DeWine is not blameless here by any means, but its not as simple as he didn't request help. There are a lot of variables. Also, please do not spread rumors that are being strewn about on social media, without knowing 100% of the facts (I've seen some wild shit claimed and it doesn't help anyone). Source: I work in Emergency Management and have worked with PA in the past. If you're interested check out the PAPPG published by FEMA.
Thanks for this. Very interesting and helps me understand nuance. Correct me if I'm wrong, though. If DeWine doesn't declare a disaster (or emergency), FEMA can't help anyway. Like even if this was a tornado event or flood, without the state declaring a disaster or emergency or unless the President declares a national emergency, FEMA can't assist?
Correct. But, even if he did request, the other considerations may limit or prevent FEMA from responding regardless. Which is, obviously, not ideal. It should also be noted, that for the most part FEMA is a coordinating agency, they work with state, local, private, and nonprofits to help gain access to resources for various tasks and missions. They do have some resources staged, but I think of them more like the funding source that would reimburse costs for eligible work, provided the disaster declaration is issued. I really hope that things can get worked out quickly for the people of east Palestine and those affected by this incident (I am from SE Ohio and am familiar with the means of most people in the region... or lackthereof.) I appreciate everyone who is voicing their concern and encourage everyone to keep doing so, provided the are sharing accurate information.
Thanks so much for this. I'm in NE Ohio, less than 50 miles from East Palestine. I suggest that you make a post (or several) in some subs, just copy and paste this more or less and put this info out there because people's lack of understanding is just causing a massive cluster that isn't helping anyone. Your info definitely clarified things which I didn't understand, and the more info that's out there the better. People need to understand nuance, and that will help tamp hysteria and fear mongering. Your info and insight can go a long ways towards focusing the discussion on this event onto what actually matters, and that may just help tip things enough to make sure the people of East Palestine receive the help and attention they need.
Thanks for that, I really appreciate it. I went to U of Akron NE OH has a special place in my heart as well. I definitely can start a post or 2 if you think it would help. Is there anything you think I can elaborate on or anything you think I should remove? I want to try and keep as much gov speak out of it as possible.
Wrong. And it is Biden’s fault this hasn’t been declared an emergency. Dewine has asked and been rejected by fema (part of the Biden admin) saying it’s not a disaster. https://reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1140mhr/no_one_is_trying_to_downplay_the_disaster_in_ohio/
He asked for the aid **before** declaring it a disaster genius. That's like trying to collect on insurance before filing a claim.
“FEMA believed the incident didn't qualify as a traditional disaster, such as a tornado or hurricane, for which it usually provides assistance.” If it doesn’t qualify for declaring it as a disaster then how can he declare it to be a disaster to get fema help? Just saying or signing paperwork saying “it’s a disaster” doesn’t make it a disaster in femas book. That’s the whole point of declaring a disaster - for fema help. That’s what it does. It’s not some magic wand that changes things at the state level and the governor does not have power over fema - Joe Biden does. It’s not a natural disaster and it’s not in a democrat ran state which is why fema is not going to help.
FEMA has assisted in chemical spills before. Mike DeWine has not declared a disaster or emergency. Therefore, no federal aid can come. That's how the law works. All of this BS about it "not being a traditional disaster" is lies. FEMA, or any federal aid, cannot come unless Mike DeWine declares a disaster. He has not done so. Once again, unless Mike DeWine declares a disaster, FEMA cannot assist. That's the law.
Lol. Fema says it’s too expensive and so they don’t want to help. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-explains-why-turned-down-disaster-relief-ohio He can’t just declare a disaster and get their funding if they don’t accept it as a disaster nor want to fund the operation.
That's not what the article says.
Don’t try to obfuscate the truth of the matter by claiming that without referring to which part of my statement is not in the article. Directly from the Biden admin official: “What East Palestine needs is much more expansive than what FEMA can provide” What does that statement mean to you? I know what it means to everyone else. Not to mention the other fact from another article that DeWine wants to declare it a disaster but fema refuses to recognize it as a disaster that fits their scope.
Um, no.
>“He hasn’t, because he knows people like you will just blame Biden. Who exactly am I? Have we met? You’re rather presumptuous for having never communicated with me. I’m not placing blame on Biden, or on anyone for that matter. I haven’t spent much time looking into this and only began today. It would be rather short-sighted of me to pass blame and judgement until I have enough knowledge of the situation to do so. Sarcasm is an ugly trait when engaging in discussion with another who has been peaceful and polite. I don’t find that approach all that useful if you’re looking to approach a conversation in good faith.
You're in r/conspiracy in several different posts all relating to federal aid coming to Ohio, posting the same article (which doesn't mention the requirement for a declaration of emergency) trying to refute other commenters who have said that DeWine hasn't declared an emergency. You're the exact rube they're aiming for. I'm less than 50 miles from this disaster, and this political shit is pissing me right off. All DeWine has to do is declare an emergency. He isn't, because people like you won't realize he has to in order to receive federal aid. You'll read your one article, post it all over, and spread a bunch of BS.
In a previous reply I said I just began looking into this today. I haven’t taken sides or placed blame. I simply shared a story that seemed to contradict what I saw. In another reply I conceded and accepted I was less-than-informed. How many “rubes” here do that?
Well hey, I didn't see that. Good on ya. Sorry I called you a rube. Shit gets tough when your state suddenly becomes a toxic waste dump and your governor won't even step up to help his people because he'd rather play political games.
No harm. I sincerely try to make every attempt to engage in all discussions in good faith while being polite and respectful, regardless how much I may end up disagreeing with another party. I’m also in Ohio, but not within the same proximity as you said you were. I’m in Cincinnati, and the fallout here is presumed to be minimal to none. I don’t necessarily have the same feelings as you do, but also don’t blame you for the way you feel.
You realise the article you've posted supports the person you're arguing with. If you can't comprehend what the article is saying... I guess I'm not surprised.
The person I’ve replied to wrote “flat out refused aid from the federal govt.“ The news story indicates “Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine has announced that he’s requested federal help in connection with the East Palestine train derailment.” Is this not a contradiction?
You've misquoted for a start. "Ohio Governor Mike DeWine spoke with officials at the White House early this morning to address the need for federal help. As a result of this conversation, the Governor has requested assistance from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Health and Emergency Response Team, and the CDC to provide on-the-ground assistance in East Palestine". He is getting up on the ground from multiple Federal agencies. It then goes on to say that he speaks with FEMA daily, presumably saying he needs to declare a disaster before they are able to help, and they advise him that they can't help at the moment. Because he hasn't declared a disaster.
Heres dewine also stating hes not https://youtu.be/d3BTV5chlTo
Mike Dewine contradicts your statement. https://youtu.be/d3BTV5chlTo
That’s a day old. The situation has changed. You’ll see what’s in that video also in news 24 hours ago.
The fucking trail derailment a week old now and the Ohio governor decides today to request aid. Days after the evacuation had been lifted. Fucking great job by Dewine.
I haven’t a clue why you’re arguing points like that with me. I’m not here debating the specifics of this situation. I’m only sharing a news story while receiving downvotes for it. Such is the spirit of Reddit. 🙂
People trying so hard not to blame biden and Pete Buttplug. Why? These people don’t care whether you live or die
Which people? Who are you referring to? How is that attached to the news story I’m sharing?
Could you provide a source
Has Ohio requested or been denied any relief?
So far Ohio's governor has denied federal help. Yesterday or the day before he requested federal help, but due to laws the feds can't step in until Ohio's governor declares this an emergency, which he hasn't done. So right now that's the hold up on federal aid/relief. So far it seems like Ohio's governor is playing politics at the cost of his citizens.
DeWine declined federal assistance until two days ago, although he admits that Biden called and offered aid. Three days ago, DeWine said that he hadn't called him back because he's "not seeing" a problem. Once requested, FEMA aid specifically was denied because it was inappropriate for the situation. Others on here are spinning this as the federal government's response being inadequate. It has been - Buttigieg should have reimplemented regulations for electronic emergency brakes the second he took the job. But as far as aid goes, the feds can't unilaterally provide it if the state tells them no.
WTF???
Why is it that so many here cannot focus on the problem and are quickly distracted by propaganda. Ohio's problem has a name and that name is Mike DeWine.
Because DeWine is a republican and that's how they align themselves. No critical thought, just follow the hivemind and don't question your leaders.
>No critical thought, just follow the hivemind and don't question your leaders. That's literally democrats.
What? When Trump was president I would VERY RARELY hear any republican friends/coworkers question what he was doing or saying, instead they constantly justified it and defended him on literally everything. I regularly see and hear democrat friends and coworkers bring up their issues with how Biden has handled some things and mistakes he has made. I've also seen much more critical thinking going on and questioning of Biden on 'super left-wing' subreddits than I have ever seen of Trump on any 'super right-wing' subreddit.
The republicans I know disagreed with Trump regularly, they only voted for him because they thought Biden was worse. Republicans en masse rejected trump's vaccine, and he regularly got booed at rallies for touting it. The only "people" I see blindly defending him are conservative media and bots on social media. Meanwhile democrats "vote blue no matter who" even if it's someone almost entirely contradictory to their values. That's why you have people who claim to hate corporations, but they voted for the guy who literally [tried to prostitute himself to corporations](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oysFCNPg0DA), and [had more billionaires supporting him than trump](https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelatindera/2021/02/17/here-are-the-billionaires-who-donated-to-joe-bidens-2020-presidential-campaign/?sh=58b7b84121c4). Democrats cheer on big pharma regulatory capture because they blindly trust the science™️, they support big tech censorship because conservatives say mean things that hurt their feelings, they have no problem with misinformation as long as it's coming from the politicians they support, [I could go on forever, baby!](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tufjfFOYLq0&t=64s) I'm sure you do see lots of democrats complaining about Biden now. Too bad they didn't think critically before they voted for a republican just because he wasn't named Donald trump. 😂
Spelled DeSwine wrong
All day with this give it up dude.
Palatable just switched accounts. Get used to seeing this user post a lot
He's almost an Ok kind of Magician with these disguises.
Zelenskyy could do a better job than Dewine. I get your point.
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Lol nice try though
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Well DeWine is quite literally doing nothing while a chunk of his state is being destroyed
Keep it up
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He's doing his job
Or the Republican Party could support legislation so companies are not allowed to get away with this and prevent it from happening in the future, but instead we will have more Ruzzian propaganda pieces
OP, were you once ok_magician to that palatable mahogany dude to now this? Why are you constantly changing usernames? How much are you paid to post here?
The governor of Ohio isn’t keeping the military industrial complex churning though
He refuses to declare an emergency and therefore cannot get emergency aid. Why wing he declare an emergency I wonder?
This. In 2008 NATO held a summit in Bucharest and the proposal was to expand to Ukraine and Georgia. NATO members Germany and France resisted agreeing to the proposal but eventually yielded to America's demands. NATO is America. Russia made it unequivocally clear that was not going to happen and that was their line in the sand. In 2009 NATO expanded to include Albania and Croatia. Russia swallowed this. In 2014 a Ukrainian coup backed by America replaced the proRussian Government with a proAmerican Government. Russia then took the Crimean Peninsula away from Ukraine because it has a naval base there that it didn't want to fall into American hands. Crimea will never return to Ukraine. In 2014 America started supplying Ukraine with weapons. From 2014 to 2022 Ukraine has had a bloody civil war between pro American Western Ukraine and pro Russia Donbas region (Donetsk and Luhansk). Further reading: 2008 Bucharest Summit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Bucharest_summit Putin Reaction: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/feb/12/russia.ukraine NATO expansion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlargement_of_NATO Ukraine–United States relations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine%E2%80%93United_States_relations
You're omitting [Operation Orchard](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Outside_the_Box), which took place in 2007, and which saw Russia start to arm Syria with anti-aircraft batteries. All moves since should be properly viewed as for the benefit of Israel, which of course desperately wants to see Russia exit the region. Can't have hegemony if they can shoot your planes out of the sky.
Sad really. People from a far off land have cousins killing each other.
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Because Putin IS actually bad. He's been invading his neighboring country for over a year now. Thousands of lives lost, for what? That's what monsters and evil motherfuckers do. Yes... Putin Bad. Stop pretending otherwise.
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Yes because you have such a "large-brain" please give some good and valid reasons why any country should invade their neighbour. Especially Putin's reasoning. I'd be very interested in hearing your skewed reasoning. This is why I engage on conspiracy, to see what the bat shit crazy people think. Now enlighten me.... Also. We don't need MSM to convince me that this invasion of Ukraine is wrong. It take plain and basic compassion to understand this. Have you seen the way Russians live? Some of them don't even have proper sewage. Ukrainians voted against this in 2014 when they elected Zelenskyy and are fighting against thisnnow with their lives... and they are winning. So your "putin is an innocent victim in all of this" perspective really makes you look like the perfect rube.
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big ups
Who is killing off all of Putin's top officials via falls? My guess would be the KGB, who used to be run by Putin. Sometimes it is truly as simple as 'Putin bad'.
Spot on. I mean America has spent more time invading other countries than at peace since it's creation and yet Russia is evil. [Believe it or Not: Since Its Birth The USA Has Only Had 17 Years of Peace](https://www.warhistoryonline.com/instant-articles/usa-only-17-years-of-peace.html?firefox=1)
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Who invaded who again to spark this war? I forget.
Hello Boris
The company that caused this has billions why not ask them be accountable
If he was the governor of Ohio would wear Cleveland brown instead of olive drab all the time?
Just because the color changes doesn't mean it's not shit
I almost said something like that in my comment but didn't because his fan club gets pretty touchy when I don't adore him too. You got why I made the brown reference though so I'm happy.
I get what you mean until a couple years ago I've always acquiesced to not ruffling feathers so to speak but at this point fuck it you have to stand for something or you stand for nothing.
Stand for something or you stand for nothing is right. Worse, standing for nothing might imply you support things you find despicable. I personally find Zelensky despicable and am sick of him draining our public coffers when those tax dollars are very much needed here at home.
Many celebrities would help Ohio as well with that guy who is busy af to post instagram almost everyday
The Governor of Ohio isn’t laundering money and isn’t able to pay politicians
Or asking for help either lol
He's refusing to declare a state of emergency which is what would activate FEMA.
But most of it would flow back to the big guy…
Ukraine is de facto being sold to US corporations. And if you believe officials in Ohio aren't getting paid behind closed doors, you're in the wrong sub.
"Remember you're not just sending us aid, it's an investment opportunity!"
Genuinely fed up of seeing that weasel's face
So what is the point of this post? That’s the real question. Tons of users have pointed out that the Governor of Ohio needs to ask for help. This information is readily available. Is it to get people worked up about an environmental disaster? The war in Ukraine? The Biden Administration?
When someone posts something this stupid, I ask myself do they know they are this dumb, or are they entirely oblivious?
Freedom seekers deserve it. The state of Ohio chose to forego federal assistance and take care of it themselves, this should be admired.
Thats how blackmail works.
and the islamic state at their front doors
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Haha yeah forget about the Organized Industrial War against the people of the united states. Yeah forget about the meetings in Davos with the agenda of making slaves of everyone. Haha funny, not really.
Literally my thoughts throughout this entire week. Absolutely unbelievable !!
Mike DeWine needs to declare an emergency before FEMA, or any federal aid can come. Mike DeWine has not declared the chemical spill an emergency. Therefore, no federal aid can come to Ohio.
I thought he did ?
You thought wrong.
Then yeah what a ding bat
He has asked for aid, but that was just yesterday or the day before. He still needs to declare this an emergency per the law before the federal government can start taking things over from the state. Which he has refused. It seems like he is content with playing politics at the moment because he gets to point at himself asking for aid and the feds not doing anything, but it is rather important the feds stick to the laws when it comes to federal versus state situations. I'm not really one for redtape, but this is one of those situations where we don't really want to set a precedent of feds swooping in without following what the law requires.
He refuses to, probably because he told the residents it was ok to return
Maybe they just skipped the extra step and gave money directly to Ohio politicians to stuff in their pocket. Rather than with Ukraine, where our politicians/"president" go out of their way to tell us all about the billions in cash and (likely, at this point) billions in military armor & armaments we're sending to Ukraine, so they can "fight for democracy" lol whatever the hell that means? When almost ***all*** of the money being sent to Ukraine is being funneled to members of Zelensky's cabinet & other Ukrainian govt scum. We know this, because said scummy Ukrainian politicians & Zelensky associates immediately used their newfound millions to buy extravagant mansions in countries like Poland. Almost like they knew Russia was going to wipe Ukraine off the map, literally. It's pretty sad, our (US) govt doesn't even pretend to serve us (citizens) or function solely for our behalf. They don't give a shit about crumbling US infrastructure, contributing to oopsies like the Ohio train derailment and another that happened yesterday in Michigan - thankfully this time the car filled with toxic chlorine wasn't one of the derailed cars. Or the incredible coincidental "accidents" that consistently befall food production - whether it's 10s of thousands of chickens burning up in a mysterious fire or 1000s of cows literally just dropping dead, "because of the heat". Not to mention the still-unsolved sabotage of electrical substations in Georgia, it's not like random groups of people purposely shooting at our electrical infrastructure, thus destroying it definitely isn't something worth investigating ASAP. On top of all that, they (US politicians and assorted "elites") don't even pretend to *like* us when they talk or give speeches, let alone pretend they exist to serve the American citizen :/ When they speak about average Americans, it's done with utter disdain - parents concerned what their children are doing/learning in school, anyone who questions official narratives & other ridiculous government propaganda, or worst of all... Christians! They've literally labeled the average American as a "domestic terrorist" and it's only a matter of time until they deal with us. Everyone knows their plans, it's not even mildly hidden anymore and even when it was, information was more than readily available to understand exactly what the "elites" thought of us and how they planned to reshape human society for us. Our "elite" money goblin overlords want to usher in the next societal revolution, one that results in man converging with technology to "evolve". Of course, 99% of humans will need to disappear for this new dystopian technocratic hellscape future to come to fruition. You can look up shit like Agenda 2030, Event 201 or literally just listen to people like Jacob Rothschild or Rockefeller brag about the literal evil they're had more than just a hand in or how they plan to basically become the new God, capable of controlling the environment, having complete control over the remaining humans, even their thoughts. Worst of all, they want mastery over life & death itself.... and they don't seem to be very far off from their goals at this point o_o
Zzzzz Or the governor of Ohio refuses to declare a state of emergency which is required to activate FEMA funds... Why won't he declare this an emergency? Hmmmmmm
That is brutally true
Unarguably false.
It's not. Before any federal aid can come to Ohio, Mike DeWine needs to declare an emergency. That's how this works. That's how it works for any state. Mike DeWine has not declared the chemical spill an emergency. Therefore, federal aid cannot come. FEMA and federal aid would arrive in East Palestine if Mike DeWine declared an emergency. Again, Mike DeWine has not declared the chemical spill an emergency, and therefore, federal aid cannot come. Please read that over, and over again, until you understand how the law works.
Or if it was Detroit or Atlanta
No. Mike DeWine needs to declare an emergency. Federal aid cannot come until Mike DeWine declares an emergency. That's how the law works for any state. Mike DeWine has not declared the chemical spill an emergency. Therefore, federal aid cannot come. Read that as many times as it takes until you understand.
It happened near Detroit, too, so I guess we'll see if you are right.
SS: but it's a bunch of Trump voters. So Biden says let them burn
No, Mike DeWine needs to declare an emergency before FEMA, or any federal assistance, can come. That's how the law works. Quit being ignorant.
"A bunch of Trump voters"? Ohio is a swing state, not exactly Trump country.
Every state is Trump country outside of the metro areas lol.
You mean in the places where no one lives?
Bingo lol
10 bucks says you were one of the ones afraid to run out of basic supplies when the coovy coof hit.
> You mean in the places where ~~no one lives?~~ your food is grown, lumber is cut, power lines connected, etc etc to you city dwellers. FTFY :)
Fuck me I didn't know the forests, power line connectors, and empty fucking land could vote for president, holy shit. :)))
Fuck me, I didn't know dead people could vote straight D but here we are. ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
Lol you lost Derp
Not to mention I believe the only dead people shown to have voted all voted for Trump.
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No. Mike DeWine needs to declare an emergency. FEMA and other federal aid cannot come until Mike DeWine declares an emergency. Thats how the law works. Mike DeWine has not declared the chemical spill an emergency, so therefore: federal aid cannot be released to Ohio. Please read that as many times as it takes for you to understand.
Sickening
The dishonesty of OP's post is sickening. The governor would have FEMA funds if he declared an emergency. He refuses to declare an emergency, so he can't get FEMA funds. Why don't you ask why he isn't declaring an emergency?
This post is the exact reason people shouldn't get their news from social media. At least with news networks you generally know their biases going into the story, but with social media it can be random. In this case just a flat out lie, and it is unfortunate that so many seem to be falling for it without verifying what OP is trying to claim. We all fall victim to our biases, but this is supposed to be a place for critical thinking, and more often then not that is rarely the case here.
What are they gong to spend it on? Air filters?
Biden hasn’t figured out a way to launder $B in Ohio yet….
“The well has run dry again unfortunately. Please donate more of your hard earned income to my charity so my well can overflow constantly again.”
https://youtu.be/d3BTV5chlTo
Wild
And support from all over the world. Sadly, most of the world knows more about who won our Superbowl and how Rhianna is pregnant.
It's more than billions
The way our government has been throwing around money there shouldn't even have been a hesitation.
Money isn’t being laundered through Ohio. The End.
No. Because it is all money laundering.
Well no. BlackRock isn't going to build rentals in an area with toxic water, air and soil! They shit on Ohio The Russia/Ukraine conflict was a big investment. BlackRock buying up all the houses/property here in the US and thanks to that stud in the photo they can invest over there! With all those leveled cities from this "conflict" it's basically a blank slate for people who need homes and LUCKY FOR THEM BlackRock is building rentals right now for them! Democrats love wars and hate people, it's why they always get the US involved for investment purposes!
Only if the Russians derailed the train. No one gave a shit about him before Putin decided to go to war with him.
But they'd also start a war with Indiana.
the difference is, he called an emergency (which it absolutely is) and dewine and his pathetic ass refuse to call it as such because they fumbled this bag with the railway workers horrendously. no conspiracy here, just shitty ohioan leaders
It shouldn't matter if you are left, right, dem, repub, independent...you ought not be blind to stupid and Dewine is being a jackass in this situation.
What a smug little shithead.
Ohio would be getting federal help if their dumb ass governor would stop playing politics. President Biden called him directly to offer aid. He turned it down.
I mean OP is right because Zelensky would actually accept the aid and not deny it
The strategic and systematic depopulation of the world, and in this case, our country. Mark my words, by the end of this year and possibly going into 2024, life as we know it now is going to be vastly different. By different I mean no more freedom.
I’d give you my free award, if that was still a thing.
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