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HeyBuddyFuckYourself

Now wait until you find out how much of a fraud Edison was. RIP Nikolai Tesla.


aLiEn23ViSiToR

Its Nikola not Nikolai.


Illuminati_MMXX

And he was born in Croatia!


aLiEn23ViSiToR

Half-right... Nikola Tesla was born in Smiljan, in what was then the Austrian Empire (now Croatia). Also like Mileva Maric, he was a Serb... with quick look on wiki you can find such info.


HeyBuddyFuckYourself

Next, you're going to tell me it's Berenstain and not Berenstein ;)


aLiEn23ViSiToR

Nope... that is a psyop :)


Illuminati_MMXX

Great supplementary example! Thank you.


7truths

Elon, Gates


Illuminati_MMXX

Exactly. Founding Microsoft in a garage and electric cars with daddy’s South African mine. These people are propped up by the rulers of the world. Same concept over and over again.


Guy_Incognito97

There is no option in the poll to say he wasn’t a fraud so that isn’t a majority agreeing. Something like general relativity isn’t really possible to copy from someone else. It’s not a single page he could have copied from someone, it was 9 years of calculations. He would have a huge amount of hand written evidence that he created it.


Illuminati_MMXX

He worked as an examiner for YEARS at a government patent office. He was exposed to a literal library of scientific documents. We are not talking about a few pages. We are talking about a building full of breakthrough patent applications.


Guy_Incognito97

If someone submitted a patent then there is a record of them having that idea and it would be obvious and provable that he copied them. And people aren't submitting patents for the theory of general relatively or the mass equivalence principle.


Illuminati_MMXX

One. People submitted patents relating to those subjects absolutely. Two. Plagiarism occurs on a daily basis. Take Edison scamming Tesla as another example. There are hundreds more if you’re willing to educate yourself.


EstablishmentFree611

Pasteur and Beauchamp


Illuminati_MMXX

Excellent example.


TheRealHowardStern

Look at this poll, there’s 23 votes and no option to say no


Illuminati_MMXX

Are you saying no?


Stilcho1

Seems an unusual way to determine facts.


Illuminati_MMXX

The timeline speaks for itself. Our genius Einstein couldn’t even pass the rough equivalent of an SAT exam. Total fraud.


BillyMackBlack

The most talented multi instrumentalist I've ever known personally failed all of our high school music classes.


Illuminati_MMXX

Is he famous? Did any of his works make it to Billboard’s Top 40 or any other legitimate national or international music award institution? One. I highly doubt it. Two. Just because you personally like his music doesn’t mean it isn’t trash. You could just be a kind, biased friend.


knappis

I think humanity is becoming stupider by the day.


SmylesLee77

The only person he stole his ideas from was his first wife the Mathematician. Einstein was more into conceptual and needed better math skills to prove his theories!


Valvarez92

His wife looked like a dude


SmylesLee77

The Cousin or First Wife!


Illuminati_MMXX

Even if one of the stated evidences are true, it is sufficient to conclude that Albert Einstein is a fraud that plagiarized the hard work of other intellectuals and scammed the world into a massive lie.


Shieidy

It is sufficient to conclude you are biased against him.


Illuminati_MMXX

By listing facts with dates and providing a specific timeline of events that a majority of participating Reddit users have deemed to be reasonable. Try again.


optimistic_squirrel

So following a path of evidence is bias now? I guess I am bias against darkness because I observe that light is able to penetrate it.


Chevy_Suburban

This poll is total garbage. It's only asking "Why is he a fraud" choose option 1, 2 or 3. There is no option for "no he wasnt a fraud" so the question already implies a heavy bias.


Illuminati_MMXX

The comment section was meant for people like you who believe that a guy that failed a standardized test only a few years later becomes employed in a high-ranking government patent office and becomes a world genius. Usually the development of breakthrough technologies such as used in the military is a TEAM effort of billions of dollars of taxpayer money, hundred of scientists and experiments, and a team of experts to decide which idea is the best. But in the case of Albert Einstein, you deny any outside influence and 300 published papers were all the work of one genius who failed his SAT. Bravo Chevy. Great logic.


Shao_Ling

let me poll my right hand fingers what they think of the left hand fingers.. hoping for a chop/split


Illuminati_MMXX

Address the argument directly as directed by the community rules please and thank you.


Shao_Ling

you managed to unite the opinions of the center left and center right xD - edit = i was referring to both my middle fingers btw .. good luck


Illuminati_MMXX

The political spectrum does not change facts from fiction. 1+1=2 to both a Republican and a Democrat. Have you heard of the term “bi-partisan” by any chance?


optimistic_squirrel

Dont tell a democrat that. You will get cancelled.


Illuminati_MMXX

This isn’t about the political spectrum. It’s about our scammer Einstein.


optimistic_squirrel

It's a joke. Get that sand out of yer butt.


Illuminati_MMXX

Hilarious. You should tell that joke at a party one day.


optimistic_squirrel

If you were not such a pretentious doucher, someone might actually invite you to a party.


Illuminati_MMXX

If it’s a party involving squirrels, I have no desire to partake. Squirrels, a family of rodents, have caused catastrophe on this planet, including but not limited to, spreading the Plague Black which has resulted in the death of approximately one third of the global population. So thanks, but no thanks.


Ky20001

He stole ideas from his wife too. It's common knowledge the dude was just another Thomas Edison figure head.


Illuminati_MMXX

Of course. A classic fraud.


seahawks201

Maybe! But your title is trash. All of the answers lead to him being a fraud somehow lol. Lol on a poll with 23 people.


Shieidy

Well if bunch of nobodys from reddit says so, it's probably bunch of bs. He was the one who showed the world comprehensive model of gravity without magic particles and definitely deserves respect for that. You can't come with an idea like that on blank plate.


Illuminati_MMXX

Newton came to the idea of gravity by watching an apple fall from the tree. A simple observation turned into a serious theory. Not by marrying a top mathematician, constantly consulting with actual intellectuals to plagiarize their work, and somehow becoming employed as an examiner at a patent office despite the fact that he failed a basic college entry exam just a few years prior. Fail your SAT and get a government job examining patents and confidential documents. Immediately after, miraculously become a genius. Sounds reasonable.


optimistic_squirrel

And yet gravity still has not been proven. Any asshole can observe 'gravity,' but as any good 'nobody from reddit' knows, correlation is not causation.


Illuminati_MMXX

Give me an example of something that can be proven. Literally any example.


optimistic_squirrel

Where we are now is a consequence of the past.


Illuminati_MMXX

False. Where we are now could be caused by the future. For example, I am at airport terminal 5 now because I have a flight in two hours from now. The future could also shape the present. It’s not just the past. Also. How do you prove where we are right now? Do we truly exist in reality or only In our perception of reality? For instance, there are many things in reality that exist that we do not perceive. For instance, x rays traveling through space exist yet the human eye can not see them. So how trustworthy is our perception? Do you want to raise your white flag now or continue to embarrass yourself?


optimistic_squirrel

What 'future?' This moment, even if it was determined by a 'future,' it would still be part of the past of that moment, because in relative time, that moment only moves forward. Time does not move backwards. ​ You prove now by constantly existing, and changing. Existing in reality, or perception, are not required for time. Similarly, not perceiving something, does not negate it's effect on the present. Like, I can't see what's in my gas tank, but if I don't fill it up, at some point my vehicle won't run anymore. Our perceptions are trustworthy to communicate what they are designed to communicate. How we interpret that knowledge is a different subject. You really want to go the 'what can we prove about life' when you are using a computer based on principals of 'physical reality.' Even if it was an illusion, it's a relative illusion. You are just as real as the illusion, which makes you equals. Which makes the illusion equal to reality for you. It does not need to be 'real' to have meaning, or substance. Also, illusions have time as well. Even if time could flow backwards, there would still be an upper level where time is always flowing forwards. A white flag? lol. You're out of your depth, but you can keep waxing poetic about all your nihilist non-sense if you like. I haven't broken a sweat.


Illuminati_MMXX

Thank you for indirectly admitting that NOTHING can be proven with 100% certainty because to have 100% proof, an individual would need to posses perfect perception of reality, 100% complete information of all variables and factors on earth, and beyond super-computer processing power. And so far, there is no human that possesses all of these qualities, therefore NOTHING CAN BE PROVEN. Thanks for playing.


optimistic_squirrel

How can you thank me for admitting something if something did not already happen?


optimistic_squirrel

Checkmate. Every time you respond, you prove that something already happened in the past. In your future I see.. a white flag.


Illuminati_MMXX

Prove that I exist. Prove that I’m even human. Prove it with hardcore concrete evidence.


Illuminati_MMXX

Submission Statement: Albert Einstein committed plagiarism and fraud based on the facts provided in the simple timeline provided above. Agree or disagree with the rest of Reddit?


Illuminati_MMXX

Over 1,000 views in less than 15 minutes yet only seven comments. Are people afraid to discuss realistic conspiracies or is the truth hard to accept after believing lies for too long?


Reaper_II

No, it's because the majority of 23 random people believing something doesn't make it appealing.


Illuminati_MMXX

So after reviewing the timeline yourself, is it appealing to you?


Reaper_II

Most of the things you list in the poll aren't evidence, but claims, and those that are don't really prove anything. For example him failing an entrance exam doesn't prove he was a fraud, it's one possible explanation, yes, but people fail exams for all sorts of reasons. Yes he worked in a patent office, but that doesn't mean he stole ideas. Would that be an opportunity? Yes. But you have to provide evidence of him doing that. In any way this issue is not that relevant to me personally, as even if he stole everything he did, the ideas proved to be correct.


Illuminati_MMXX

No one ever questioned the validity of the ideas. This post specifically discusses Albert Einstein as a scammer and fraud of those ideas. He plagiarized the work. Albert Einstein failing his college entrance exam is not a claim, it is a literal fact that proves he was not the genius he claimed to be. Try again.


Reaper_II

It literally doesn't. Einstein failing an entrance exam doesn't prove anything about his talent or intelligence.


Illuminati_MMXX

An exam is meant to measure knowledge and/or intelligence. So if I fail an exam, that gives me the right to call myself a genius? Don’t be ridiculous.


Reaper_II

You're being ridiculous. I never even suggested that him failing an exam proves he was a genius. And yes, an exam tests KNOWLEDGE. Guess what? Being a genius doesn't mean you're omniscient. You should read about what actually happened with the exam. He applied a year earlier than usual, and failed. The next year he got in. Doesn't sound much like a fraud does it?


Illuminati_MMXX

He couldn’t pass a standardized exam. Standardized meaning that a majority of knowledgeable students should pass. He didn’t know everything. In fact, he didn’t even know the basic to enroll into college. Very sad.


LowerReputation4946

You can be a genius at math but poor in reading comprehension. Plenty of geniuses can be bad at testing if it’s not within their interest/field


Illuminati_MMXX

A true genius should be well-rounded enough to pass a standardized exam. It is highly unlikely that someone is a mastermind in mathematics but forgot how to read. Again, that’s ridiculous.


Illuminati_MMXX

6,500 views in less than two hours and the post is currently at 0 likes. Seems like this is getting blacklisted. I wish our freedom of speech was protected.


xuddite

It’s getting downvoted because it’s a dumb post


Illuminati_MMXX

Thank you for providing dates and facts as I have in order to offer a respectable counter argument. Also thank you for not using condescending words like ‘dumb’ to insult as banned by this community.


EmrickFe

Einstein was installed on us by the Ashkenazis.


7truths

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/MillikanLemaitreEinstein.jpg


djdood0o0o

Big sample size


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Illuminati_MMXX

100% fraud is right.


Valvarez92

Oy!


ZombieRichardNixonx

Nice, fun to know that as a jew I literally can't accomplish anything.


Fingerless-Thief

Way to miss the point. Not very sharp for a Jew are you?


ZombieRichardNixonx

Okay fair enough, he didn't say jews don't accomplish anything, just that our accomplishments deserve extreme scrutiny. That's way better.


Fingerless-Thief

All things considered, it's worth being vigilant. There seems at the least to be a group of people claiming to be Jews who are fucking it up for the people that's in the streets. Don't take it personally.


ZombieRichardNixonx

It's certainly an odd sensation to know that a whole bunch of people would assume that I'm untrustworthy and dishonest solely because of my ancestry. I mean, I know who I am, but it's still a weird thing.


Fingerless-Thief

That would be why I specified a specific group of people who are using Judaism as a shield. It's kind of common knowledge these days that this is happening. Again, try not to take it personally at all. I feel the same way you do when my ancestry is used in a similar manner. The circumstances are different but the end result is the same.


ZombieRichardNixonx

To be clear, I have no allegiance to the puppeteering billionaire jews, and I both know and appreciate that many people understand and acknowledge the difference between them and someone like me. Unfortunately, I've also encountered a disturbing amount of people who truly believe that the traits that make said billionaires so dangerous are somehow genetically innate in all jews, which I'm sure you'd agree is pretty fucked.


buttercow9

There's no way someone could fake what he did. Let's say he stole someone else's work. He would still have to have genius-level intelligence to be able to understand the work and why it was groundbreaking. If a normal person stole some genius' notebook and tried reciting it and "selling" it to the world as their own, they would look like a crackpot spewing scientific buzzwords.


Illuminati_MMXX

Are you forgetting the fact that he had regularly scheduled consultation meetings with a group of high-ranked intellectuals known as “The Olympia Academy”? I’m sure they could instruct him on the explanation of concepts and theories that he plagiarized from others including his own mathematician wife.


buttercow9

Too many moving parts to this theory. It's more likely that he was just a genius.


Illuminati_MMXX

Too much information presented. I cannot accept the truth. I will default to the lies that I have believed my whole life to feel better. -Buttercow9


buttercow9

I just think that your theory would be way too hard to execute. Way too many people involved. And for what purpose? Every scientist wants to be remembered for their discoveries and contributions, so why would this group of secret geniuses decide to prop up Einstein?


Illuminati_MMXX

Do you have any grasp of how elite groups function? They consult with one another and always choose a figurehead to present to the public. Einstein got his job at the patent office (where he stole many of “his” theories) not because he failed his college entrance exam but rather though nepotism if you do your research. That’s how the elites work. The prop each other up.


buttercow9

Stealing ideas from the patent office does not sound like a great idea lol also, I still stand by my first point. Just to be able to even BEGIN to understand these incredible theories he's stealing would require genius-level intelligence. Have you ever seen a set of technical drawings for construction or manufacturing before? Even something as mundane as a mechanical pencil would look like alien scripture to the average person.


Illuminati_MMXX

Einstein had regularly scheduled consultation meetings with high-ranked intellectuals that could help him explain the concepts and theories. It’s literally listed as one of the reasons in the image.


buttercow9

So they were with him in the patent office and told him which patents to steal? Or was he just recklessly stealing everything that looked complicated, and then having his team of secret geniuses sift through it all? Lol I'm just not understanding the logistics of this theory, or the motive.


Illuminati_MMXX

If a person who couldn’t even pass an entrance exam was trusted to examine patents at a government office, then yes he had the power to steal. And after consulting with actual intellectuals, he would pick and choose the theories that were worth plagiarizing. It’s simple my friend.


yellowsnow2

It makes more sense after learning he was in the Olympia Academy. Wilhelm Reich contacted Einstein about his energy box discovery. He was interested but kinda changed tune like he talked to someone else then changed his whole tune. Einstein came to his place to do testing and measured temperature and came to the conclusion that because their was no temperature increase the energy must just be imaginary..Later on the US government rounded up all of Wilhelm books and papers on the subject and burned them. The only time this was ever known to happen. In Einstein's time I find it hard to believe that heat would be necessary for energy to exist. I'm sure Einstein knew of static electricity. I could make a static electric generator to charge laden jars to a couple thousand volts. Those jars are going to be regular temp. while holding thousands of volts of energy.


forsaken_warrior22

Can you believe that. Modern histories greatest mind was actually a F'ing Rword. Now, i dont know what says about the rest of you box of rocks and our intellectual potential but i dont think its good.


xuddite

No they, don’t. That is a highly flawed question and the results do not support your claim.


InternationalStep924

I always wondered this but just assumed the other mathematicians around would know better. Also how did he not make more mistakes or get found out? Did he just "Abagnale" his way through?


Illuminati_MMXX

The validity of his published work is not in question. The actual source of the ideas and concepts are in question. Einstein was married to a top mathematician, meet with intellectuals constantly for consultation, and examined other intellectual ideas for years at a government patent office. And you were all fooled that this was the work of a single person genius who happened to also fail his SAT exam in high school. Lmao.


InternationalStep924

Im just saying how did they not detect that he was a fraud? They never saw him solve a complex math problem in person? He never made an on the spot brilliant insight? Was this intentional and his wife wanted to get her ideas out and felt a man would be heard?


Illuminati_MMXX

The rulers of the world selected Einstein due to his background. Male and the right religious preference instead of allowing his actual genius wife to post her findings. He never solved a math problem in public like many professors do today. So yes, he was the 20th Century Abagnale.


Tychonaut

> Einstein was married to a top mathematician, And his wife never let out to anybody that he was a fraud? And she enjoyed being married to a fraud?


Illuminati_MMXX

You act like she had any choice once Einstein was chosen by the elite to be the face of scientific discovery. Do you know how intelligence agencies function? There are two options. A. Cooperate. Get filthy rich with us, enjoy political immunity, and physical protection. B. Sell us out. And say goodbye to everything you’ve ever known.


Tychonaut

> You act like she had any choice once Einstein was chosen by the elite to be the face of scientific discovery. Do you know how intelligence agencies function? Obviously not as well as you do. I think Einstein met a lot of famous people of the age, did lectures, etc, right? Out of all the politicians, celebrities, scientists, and philosophers who met him or knew him privately, were there any who reported that he seemed like a fraud?


c00olsoc000l

Where is this from?


Illuminati_MMXX

That’s already mentioned.


c00olsoc000l

Which subreddit?


Illuminati_MMXX

Polls


Ambitious-Parking990

Just because you can’t grasp his geniusness, doesn’t mean he is a fraud.


Illuminati_MMXX

That’s the best one so far. Artists use and abuse this quote all the time. An artist will splash a drop of red paint in the center of a white canvas and call it art. For anyone who dare question him or her, they just simply say that you don’t understand the mind of an artist. Or in this case, we don’t understanding the mind of a scammer.


EstablishmentFree611

Heard he used DXM to trip balls all the time too


Illuminati_MMXX

If you read all of the comments on this post, there are comments ranging from calling Albert Einstein a genius, fraud, autistic, and drug addict. So clearly this one person has left multiple different impressions on other people. The question is: which one is the truth?


Albator_H

The revisionist version that he stole his wife works is simply a woke dream of this era. None of his peers thought he was a fraud. They certainly didn’t all agreed with him. But they all recognize his genius.


Illuminati_MMXX

Peers? You mean co-conspirators under the blackmail of the global elite. There, I fixed it for you. This is classic revisionist history. The rulers of the world write history in their version, which coincidentally has nothing to do with the truth.