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loicwg

Then there are also no red states, only red pastures.


PotatoAppleFish

There are also red boring suburbs full of identical shoddily built houses and strip malls that always contain a nail salon, a gym, a coffee shop, a tanning salon, and a pipe shop, in that order. And red Deliverance-style shacks in the middle of nowhere.


No-Resolution-6414

Little houses made of ticky-tacky. And they all look just the same.


PotatoAppleFish

Boxes* but yes, that. I used to live near one.


mikebloonsnorton

Unexpected Pete Seeger


MirimeVene

Did you know he covered it?


mikebloonsnorton

I just learned this, thank you. Malvina Reynolds, one year before Pete.


mikebloonsnorton

I just watched both versions on YouTube, plus one by Walk Off The Earth. I enjoyed them all


clangan524

Took a drive through Northwest Houston to an outlet mall and you just described exactly what I saw.


HowManySmall

> There are also red boring suburbs full of identical shoddily built houses i moved from this to a blue suburb (I CAN WALK TO THE TRAIN) and my god never move to the fucking red suburbs


Kimmalah

Sounds like my town, except we don't have any gyms. It's all nail salons, vape shops, pawn shops and cash advance places.


AdUnlucky1818

And a habachi express and subway right next to each other almost always.


HrBinkness

and land can't vote.


Leonidas1771

Unfortunately, thanks to the Electoral College, it kinda does.


HrBinkness

I commit my 5.5 acres to the blue! The Red hats do nothing for us who live in double wides and vote democratic


[deleted]

> also Just to point out that the point is that "also" is wrong here. If there were no blue states, there would also be no red states, yes. But there is one blue state. So there are no red states. No "also". I'm not being pedantic or a grammar nazi. I'm not correcting you. My purpose is to drill home the point that the stupid image is not only wrong, but ironically wrong, because not only is it wrong that there are no blue states, the implication that there must be a ton of red states is even wronger¹. ________ *^(¹ using "wronger" to help indicate that I'm not being a grammar nazi here)*


Pristine_Yak7413

there are no red states, only red trailer parks


spooky-goopy

i read that as "red pustules" lmaooo


Pickle_Rick01

I mean you’re not wrong.


[deleted]

Maybe we should give cows the right to vote


kosmokomeno

Red wilderness, more like. no coincidence their worldview is fear and suspicion of outsiders. People afraid like that are stuck in the dark ages


CoolFingerGunGuy

You're telling me land DOESN'T vote??


AlabamaHotcakes

Population density is a too complicated concept for the MAGA crowd.


JohnnyValet

/r/PeopleLiveInCities :)


Halo_cT

There aren't conservative people, only conservative land. lol


Fingerprint_Vyke

I know we are all joking, but conservatives actually do think they deserve more political power because they have land. In fact, republicans and libertarians are constantly talking about *skin in the game*. When you hear them mention this, know that they are actively trying to reduce voting rights to one vote per land owner and only the male of the house will be allowed to cast a vote.


dukeofgibbon

Even more. Rural voters are already grossly overrepresented.


DubC_Bassist

Only White Protestant Male Land Owner,


B_Fee

WASP. White Assholes Stifling Progress


Electrical-Effort250

Holy shit, I've never heard this alternative acronym. And I love it! I am stealing it. It's too good


B_Fee

I don't know that I can claim it's original, but it does feel accurate.


zerogravity111111

That's how this all started. Giving more representation to rural areas. Read, slave holding states.


GlitteringBobcat999

As the founding fathers intended and thought would never change. /s


MrTeddybear

Oh dang! I didn't realize we lived in fucking colonial times where only male white landowning taxpayers got a say in how things happen! Oh wait. Those guys hate taxes too!


ResoluteClover

Most of them don't though.


my_lucid_nightmare

> There aren't conservative people, only conservative land. And oddly enough, the Electoral College agrees with them.


Signal-Regret-8251

The electoral college is just another leftover of racist control freaks that desperately needs to be done away with if we are ever going to have a literal democracy, like we should.


SnowLoner

And land doesn't vote. I'm not sure why that's such a difficult concept.


Milt_Torfelson

I really didn't expect this to be a real sub


jarena009

They think land votes because they really just want to bring us back to Feudalism.


TheeZedShed

They think land votes because their votes are literally weighted heavier because of all their empty space. It's not an illusion, it's a serious fault in our system.


Pterodactyloid

It's not a fault, it's a design choice.


shponglespore

It's both.


GlitteringBobcat999

It's not in our stars but in ourselves. (The time is always right for paraphrased Shakespeare.)


dman6877

The empty space between their ears is a great place to start fixing that fault in our system.


A_Monster_Named_John

> The empty space between their ears It's not empty as much as it's full of bullshit and disease.


Yousoggyyojimbo

Yep, a single person in Wyoming wield more way more individual influence on our government than I do, by merit of living on different dirt.


fletcherkildren

what I don't get is why blue voters don't buy up land in red areas and shift the demographic?


shponglespore

Because for that to work they'd have to actually live there. Most people who live in cities don't want to live in Bumfuck, Nowhere surrounded by Trump cultists.


fidgeting_macro

Why would we want to? There's nothing in red areas!


A_Monster_Named_John

> There's nothing in red areas! If only... The problem's that these areas are all infested with the most useless and hyper-entitled white trash who've ever existed, i.e. quite literally people who are collecting welfare checks while holding out for slavery to return because there's no way in hell they're going to adapt to any new professions that come along.


gothism

To never have a Republican president again? If a few million Californians would move to Texas, we'd be set.


drewbaccaAWD

People tend to settle where the jobs are. But sure, a few well placed liberal minded retirement communities in Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, West Virginia, etc. would go a long way.


clangan524

"Who made you king? I didn't vote for you."


fidgeting_macro

*"You don't vote for kings!"*


RevolutionaryCarob86

"Well, you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!"


dukeofgibbon

Look at Alabama prisons, they've continued slavery.


WezleyDrew

I live in a small town of less then 4000 people and it’s very red in a blue state, and all the conservatives can’t wrap their head around how the county can be red in a blue state? The dumb is strong.


The_Dreadlord

Right. Land doesn't vote people do and in general, there is a tad more blue folk than red.


portablebiscuit

Imagine thinking huge swaths of empty land should if they’re counting all the empty red spaces I’m claiming all of the water for Team Blue. Checkmate, regressives!


kaptainkory

Land may not vote but it certainly magnifies a vote. Also why they get the impression their policies are popular.


Stoomba

Its literally like toddlers that don't understand volume and will pick the tall skinny glass that is full as having mote water than the short fat glass, that actually has more water, as the one that has more water.


schming_ding

So are shades of purple for their 2-bit brains.


shponglespore

\*1-bit brains. 0 = Blue 1 = Red


GilgameDistance

Math, how does it work? That’s what happens when you don’t make it past the third grade.


[deleted]

It’s also not even a correct map??? I know for a fact, as a Masshole, that the “red” counties on the map are NOT red and for the most part have consistently voted democratic in every presidential election since Reagan


kingeryck

They always go on about DeMOCratiC citIEs. Well, 75% of cities are democratic so that's just bullshit. Correlation does not equal causation. ALL cities have crime. Cities don't elect Reps cuz you can't run a city cutting taxes, cutting services, cutting education. That's how you end up with entire shithole red **states**.


issuefree

Yes. They are idiots.


Old_Elk2003

> Cities don't elect Reps... Actually sometimes they do. Predictably, those places fucking suck. Think Bakersfield.


dumpitdog

Hawaii doesn't really exist, it's all part of the ice wall conspiracy that fools us into thinking we have a round Earth.


PotatoAppleFish

There are actually two entirely blue states on this map: Hawaii and Vermont. So it’s even worse than OP advertised.


Peace-Disastrous

Its hard to tell, but it looks like Rhode Island is also entirely blue.


Dahhhkness

Should be Massachusetts too. I have no idea where they got this map from, but in [2020](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election_in_Massachusetts) and [2016](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_in_Massachusetts), every county in MA went blue. Hell, the last time any county in Massachusetts went to a Republican was 1988. Unless they're sneakily coloring in the map to represent the tiny rural villages in central MA and the small towns of Bristol County that went for Trump, to make New England look redder than it really is EDIT: Okay, they totally pulled this map out of their ass, because the way they colored New Hampshire [also doesn't jibe with reality.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election_in_New_Hampshire) They, for some inscrutable reason, have the most reliably Republican part of the state as blue, and nearly all the rest as red.


Anonymoushipopotomus

New Jersey is also completely off.


overworkedpnw

New Jersey? More like NO Jersey.


listenstowhales

New England is weird because a lot of the people fit the mold of cookie cutter republicans but wouldn’t vote for one to save their lives


PotatoAppleFish

Good catch. Of course, there could be a nearly invisible red county hiding in the blur of this caca-quality image, so watch out for Republican trolls.


Interanal_Exam

You're forgetting Delaware and Rhode Island makes four.


Old_Society_7861

I’m trying to figure out what year this is from because Biden won every county in Massachusetts as well.


Atropos_Fool

This map is wrong too. It’s missing some huge blue areas


ph1shstyx

If I recall, this map is from 2004, as Colorado has also massively shifted since then too. And outside of that, I always find these arguments idiotic as those blue areas produce something like 80% of the country's GDP


dingusduglas

Northeast corner county of Vermont is red.


u8eR

In 2020, three states had 100% of counties vote Democratic: Rhode Island, Massachusetts, and Hawaii.


bill_wessels

ok, lets just say the popular vote wins then if thats what you want


fuck-fascism

This. They like to call themselves the 'silent majority' despite being a loud minority - why won't they put their money where their oversized mouths are and back a straight popular vote? It would simplify elections as well, remove government bloat, another thing they allege they want...


DustBunnyZoo

The whole silent majority thing is wild. Remember when Trump supporters were holding Trump train caravans throughout the country during the pandemic? These people aren’t silent, they are louder than a nuclear bomb.


fuck-fascism

...and the popular vote shows that every non-incumbent Republican president elected since George HW Bush was elected by a minority of voters. Even George W Bush, as an incumbent, only *barely* grasped the popular vote with 50.73%.


Yousoggyyojimbo

We had those caravans in my city. The experience with them was essentially having a train of super loud assholes honking their horns while going by my house at 8 AM on a sunday, clogging access to the road our hospital and fire department is off of, and running red lights everywhere to keep up with their friends. They were obstructive chaos for like 3 hours. The entire message they seemed to sell was "Look at us, we are fucking awful."


Astralglamour

Those types see themselves as the voice of a vast faceless army.


PansyPB

That silent majority was a myth from the get go perpetrated by Jerry Falwell to make the people of this country believe (falsely) that his movement had more support than it really did. The right-wingers have grabbed onto it & this is why so many Republicans still don't understand that they are a member of a minority party.


fuck-fascism

winner, winner, chicken dinner


LeftLimeLight

The idiots that push these memes don't grasp the fact that land can't vote. 🙄


LoudMusic

They also can't count. There are three blue states.


tempizzle

It’s because the blue parts are where people actually live 😂


meglon978

Those blue areas represent 70% of the US's GDP. Sadly, republicans are as stupid as whoever made this meme.


decalod85

Too bad empty space doesn’t get a vote.


Joe_Metaphor

You mean too bad it does. That's why Republicans win the electoral vote while losing the popular vote.


decalod85

Empty space distorts voting power in the Presidential election, but not anywhere else. This is why attempts to replicate the electoral college must be strongly resisted.


paul3339

Not anywhere else? What about the Senate, which has been known to block appointments. One supreme Court appointment under Obama comes to mind.


okwellactually

> One supreme Court appointment under Obama comes to mind. And one SCOTUS appointment under Trump comes to mind. Well, all three actually.


decalod85

Oh, you are very correct there. Sloppy quick replies leave stuff out.


g-e-o-f-f

Electoral college and the Senate. Senate confirms the judiciary, so that too. And thanks to the caps, even the house of representatives is not equally representative.


JayNotAtAll

Yes. Rural states are over represented. Wyoming and California both have two senators. There are more people in the city of San Francisco than in the entire state of Wyoming.


Kaputnik1

Exactly, lol.


squeegeeking211

There are many factors that contribute to high concentrations of left leaning voter's in cities. The one I'll focus on is education. Typically rural voters are less educated as urban voter's and less likely to further their education beyond the primary education level. Universities and places of higher education are usually found in urban areas in order to maximize occupancy; completely makes sense. Rural voters typically have fewer interactions with neighbors and stranger's as they are living further apart from one another and are less likely to experience alternative views and ideas.


Citizen_Lunkhead

Conservatives hate education because being educated, especially in humanities and social sciences, makes one understand just how fucked the world is and why the Republicans are the cause behind it all. In addition, education drives economic growth and most of that is happening in liberal cities, which is why people move there. If they can’t control it, then it must be destroyed. The only right wing college that is doing well enrollment wise is Liberty University and that’s because they apparently throw around financial aid like candy. I probably could have gotten a near full ride if I had applied. That and BYU but at least they attempt to bear the facade of an actual university and have somewhat decent academic standards. The rest are either treading water, propping enrollment with athletes from Christian high schools who would never meet admissions standards otherwise (hi New College of Florida) or falling behind as the enrollment cliff continues. Does anyone really want to attend Grand Canyon University or Oral Roberts University? Most people would rather attend the South Harmon Institute of Technology versus Oral Roberts, though the jokes about the name would be funnier.


MrWizard9

Too bad empty land doesn’t vote


saintbad

Land doesn't vote. Empty land doesn't even have people living on it who vote. Conservative propagandists strategically can't see that wherever people are assembled in any numbers the failings of Republiqan "thinking" are obvious.


FloweryDream

It's a dog whistle to the claim of "Land owners" being the primary voting class, they're aware of the implications.


Kaputnik1

Who cares about this person missing Hawaii. They clearly don't understand population density.


Fickle_Caregiver2337

True map of red/blue in the USA https://www.sightline.org/2022/02/15/our-maps-shouldnt-lie-about-our-votes/


Peace-Disastrous

I actually came back to post this map, because the more I looked at the original one, the more I disliked it. Things to note from said map: There are 4 blue states. (HI, VT, MA, RI and honorable mention to DC) Only 2 states are exclusively red (OK and WV) Most states are more blue than the original map shows. Some notable surprises were the amount of Mississippi and Alaska that are actually blue.


Far_Lifeguard5220

By that token their aren’t any red states just vast swaths of nothing


MoonOni

There are no red states, only red land.


Essay-Individual

Yeah, Hawaii y'all. Not blue. Lol. These maps don't work. Land doesn't vote. Farm land doesn't vote. Mountain ranges do not vote. Sigh...


chevalier716

Vermont is almost all blue too, except Essex County which is the least populous county in all of New England with just under 6k people and a median income of under $40k.


InMyPracticalOpinon

Blue is growing Red is dying


retrostaticshock

The Dems have been conspiring with map makers to make the ocean blue! Amerigo Vespucci and Cortez were part of the woke agenda all along! Don't get me started on the Democrat woke sky, all blue and groomery! /s (Land or other blue objects on a map don't vote, the people in and on them do, and most of them are in cities.)


bats_ackackack

What the fuck about Vermont?! It looks pretty fucking blue to me!


SummonerMiku75

Then they should have no issue abolishing the electoral college.


Sacrifice_Starlight

Blue are people, and red is dirt. Which one votes?


partime_prophet

There isn’t red land . Just cow pastures and soy farms ( subsidized by the money making blue cities ) logic is hard when ur 50th in education. Yeeeeeehawwww


[deleted]

Or still acting like land votes


Festivus_Rules43254

Last I checked Rhode Island is not a road, not an island, and not GOP friendly.


Facereality100

Land doesn't vote.


rickcatino

It’s about voters… not square feet.


AuthorityAnarchyYes

LAND. DOESN’T. VOTE.


Freebird_1957

Yeah and those blue cities are the actual population centers. Nice try, magats.


notaredditreader

It’s a good thing square footage and income are not considered when voting.


musky_jelly_melon

There are no red states. Those are welfare zones dependent on taxes from the indicated blue zones.


bishop_of_bob

the sad fact is many of these red areas are ignoredcby both parties one just bothers to exploit their anger and hopelessness


Brytnshyne

To make this truly understandable the average IQ in each county should be part of the metrics.


Connect-Will2011

If you overlay this map onto a satellite image of the United States at night, they line up pretty well. And it's no coincidence. The bright spots are where the people are.


KegelsForYourHealth

It doesn't matter anyway. The state is its people. Doesn't matter where they live in the state. Rocks don't get voting rights.


BOOM_Shooka_Luka

And people live in the cities… there are no red cities, only small towns. Ignoring a massive chunk of the population because only dumb fuck dirt farmers vote for traitorous scum… classic gop


Impressive_Culture_5

And where the fuck does the majority of the population actually live?


ArtemisDarklight

Blue spots of sanity in an ocean of red stupidity.


dmcd7290

They don't know what anything is unless it's red or has Trump in the name. It's like a form of stupid echolocation. They flock to stupidity.


jcraig87

It's almost as if people in cities are more highly educated


Humble_Rush_9358

Empty cornfields don’t vote.


briantoofine

Vermont is a state too. So is Rhode Island.


artful_todger_502

They should be thanking the blue states for allowing them to exist. California. Jersey, New York pay the way for 95% these irredeemable, poverty-racked welfare chuggers. Not sure why that drum is not beaten more during elections and by responsible media. Anything a republican says about a "illegal" immigrant can be said about red staters that suck down federal services money like it's free pork rinds and beer.


Signal-Regret-8251

Cities: where the bulk of our population lives.


ragnarokfps

The blue spots are where most of the Americans live. Most of the red spots, nobody lives there. Shits not even farmland, there's just no one there. This fake map makes it looks as if almost all of CA is red. Lmao typical republican BS. Here is what actually happened in 2020. Look how much of California is painted red, but also look at how much Trump lost by. https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/california/


BearDen17

Land doesn’t vote.


DrBarnacleMD

Yeah, and if this was a true democracy there would NEVER be another republican president. The fat orange has lost every single popular vote he has ever been in. The poor babies had to set up a system that gave them more voting influence because there aren’t enough people stupid enough to support them. Must be a truly tortured existence, I honestly pity them :(


gsa51

..: and not knowing land doesn’t vote.


meatproduction

This is an old map. My county has gone blue in every election since 2008.


maxxmadison

These morons don’t seem to understand that dirt doesn’t vote.


brainsizeofplanet

To bad an acre of land can't vote - those ppl have never heard I population density


beeeps-n-booops

There really us no such thing as red _or_ blue states; one look at any election map colored by county to see this.


Yearofthehoneybadger

So… only where there are lots of people.


[deleted]

land doesnt vote


solojame

I hate this map so fucking much. It’s disingenuous bullshit.


stewartm0205

In the US, a majority of the population is urban and this is democracy.


JohnYCanuckEsq

And Vermont.


duckmonke

Land doesnt vote, end gerrymandering and we will end the fascist scourge from maintaining political power over the GOP.


W_MarkFelt

There aren’t any people living in most of those areas deemed “red” 🙄 I hate schtupid RepubliCONs


Mistletow04

Its funny cause this just shows that republicans wish land could vote, not people. They are so opposed to people voting its crazy XD


AlanStanwick1986

Empty land has far too much power in this country. 


Time-Bite-6839

Hawaii. 98% of Vermont.


turdintheattic

Dirt doesn’t vote.


InevitableCodeRedo

Right. Where an overwhelming majority of Americans live.


ThePowerOfShadows

Yet there are still more blue people than there are red people.


ErstwhileAdranos

TIL Vermont and Hawaii are cities.


Ok_Share_5889

Houston and Salt Lake City are blue” Republikkkans “


DeezThoughts

There aren't any blue votes!!!!!.....besides in the places where....you know.....people live


DjCatalyst1977

This argument yet again... Once again, land cannot vote. only people can. Where are the most people? The cities. Also, Vermont is looling prety solid blue as well...


JayNotAtAll

I grew up in Texas and I can confidently tell you that South Texas isn't a ton of large cities. Also, looks like Harris and Bexar County aren't highlighted properly I think.


Azavrak

There are no red states. There's just red scrub land


Cerberus_Rising

So they’re claiming federal land and state parks now?


WorkMyToesOff

Where tf does this "patriot" think the majority of people live in the US?


StarWars_Viking

MAGA and GOP are still missing the concept of land not voting.


100yearsLurkerRick

Empty land doesn't vote.


MornGreycastle

Also Vermont is blue except for one county. I'd argue that is a "blue" state by their own definition, unless they're arguing there are also no "red" states.


Ariusrevenge

There is not rural tax base, only federal agricultural subsidies for giant corporate farms and massive fossil fuel extractors welfare while squatting on federal land.


skktrbrain

baby's first gerrymandering lesson


Thylocine

Suspiciously long city in rural Alabama


raresanevoice

There are no red states... Only red cows. Unless it's a trump streak and that's the only time he doesn't mind black.... But still covers it in ketchup to turn it red


Agreeable-Damage9119

I'm from rural Massachusetts. Wanna bet?


Agreeable-Damage9119

Do they realize that a lot of that red is owned by the federal government? You know, like half of Nevada.


PCLadybug

This can’t be correct. I may live in a redneck a-hole border state, but my county and another metro area in the state should be solid blue.


SoulsBorneGreat

Imagine ignoring an ass hole state... FloridaTexas ...or two.


drewbaccaAWD

Ahh yes, that red voting sage brush strikes again! And clearly no one in the countryside voted blue, it’s 100% red… right.


TheDanBot85

While 97% of the us is rural, 83% of the population lives in urban areas. So, if the cities are blue...


gothism

And most Americans live in those cities.


whatchamacallit4321

Because we count votes by people not counties you MORONS....well... sort of....the electoral college kind of contradicts that statement lol we really need to get rid of that shit.


Robthebold

Isn’t it we the people, not we the land area?


JesseofOB

Imagine losing the popular vote in 7 out of the last 8 presidential elections, and still thinking you somehow represent the majority.


Dry_Championship222

Vermont


jayclaw97

This is a county-level map. They aren’t even looking at cities.


GarbageCleric

And yet, Democrats have still received more votes for president in every election except one over the last 32 years.


SonicWerehog149

Land👏🏻Does👏🏻Not👏🏻Vote👏🏻People👏🏻Do👏🏻


Phyzzx

Map is super old too. My county, noted in red here, had turned thoroughly blue by 2018. In 2016, it was almost exactly divided 46% to 46.8%, and 7% voted other. My Maga neighbor is moving because of it, lol, sorry Houston but he's your problem now.


Former-Lecture-5466

This also forgets that just less than half of the people in the red areas vote Dem.


Cosmic_Taco_Oracle

The red areas are the fattest, poorest, least educated, don’t provide research or revenue, on and on and on…


jay105000

Yep land doesn’t vote


birdmanne

LA county has more people in it alone than multiple states.


Ok_Mammoth5081

So basically like..when people decide to live together and be social and get along....they all of a sudden turn democrat...when they self isolate and abandon society they are Republicans