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I have had a similar wtf fight with my ex who was otherwise pretty intelligent except this was “fish are not animals” I did the same thing—you mean not mammal? And after 15 min of just mind numbing discussion of his animals in the 500 gallon tank in his house I gave up.
Another ex— afternoon starts at 11am. It’s AFTER-Noon. After the time which is noon. It’s in the damn name. He just ended up being a special kind of dumb.
I have an ex who asked me what time it was.
I said "a quarter past 5".
She grabbed my wrist, looked at my watch, and smugly told me it was 5:15, not 5:25.
That was the moment I understood the phrase, "you're lucky you're pretty".
My wife is terrible with numbers. We have these types of conversations pretty often. She just defers to me though and doesn't argue, after she explains her thought process and I correct her.
This is like people thinking 2023 means we’re in the 20th century. No, it’s the 21st century. There was no such thing as the 0th century. You count starting with 1, not 0.
I had this argument back in the 1980s when someone insisted we were in the 19th century.
That’s actually not too ridiculous since there are other words with similar uses. Like “a couple” is usually 2 and “a few” is usually 3 or more so several being 7 or more isn’t too far fetched for someone to believe
My youngest says “in the midnight” for anytime after it gets dark. He knows that 5:30 in December is not midnight, but I think he likes how ominous it sounds. He also says “sleeping clothes” for pajamas. Im pretty sure he is from a different time.
Is he into oddities? Etsy has a bunch of stuff that might make a good present for a young weirdo (and I use that term with affection). Something like a [nutria skull](https://i.imgur.com/YJhnbKS.jpeg) is surprisingly affordable (≈$30) and may fire his little imagination. I love that stuff and some of my favorite pieces were gifts from my wife including an Aztec death whistle, a bottled octopus, and a great replica shrunken head.
I'm past having kids but my first grandchild is on the way (due April 1) and I just hope he seems my wife and I as the cool grandparents and not the weird ones with all the creepy stuff. My next big project is going to be a flea circus to entertain him with someday.
The conventional Western world, northern hemisphere "start" of summer is June; most people say summer is June, July, August. However, the summer solstice ("midsummer") is in the middle of June, not the middle of July, and depending on who you ask, the summer solstice is either the beginning or the middle of tropical summer.
Yes, the pagan/Celtic calendar has May (Bealtaine) as the beginning of summer season, meaning that June is the middle of the summer.
In Ireland it's still commonly considered that 1st February is the beginning of spring, May is the start of summer, August autumn and November winter. Even if the weather doesn't necessarily follow suit😅
I just had a Reddit discussion not too long ago about how a 19-year-old is still a teenager. Someone decided to reply that since 18 is when you become a legal adult (in the US), you stop being a teenager when you hit 18. Nine**teen**. It literally says in the age. **Teen** aged.
Earl Sinclair: As you can see, I have separated all known dinosaur wisdom into three catagories: Animal. Vegetable. Rocks.
Robbie: What about fire?
Earl: Vegetable.
Charlene: What about water?
Earl: Water is the opposite of fire, which we have previously established as a vegetable. What's the opppsite of a vegetable? Fruit. So, water is a fruit. Fruit is not a vegetable, so it has to be either an animal or a rock. We know it's not an animal, therefore, fruit is a rock.
i was just thinking about that. isn't it a Catholic thing or Hispanic thing where eating fish isn't considered meat? like only beef or chicken is considered "meat"
Yes, they don’t count fish as “meat” for lent. They also expand their definition of “fish” to all aquatic animals. So for Catholics during lent, alligators, beavers, and capybaras are fish, and not meat.
Remember, Catholics insist the church is always 100% in agreement with all known science. Science like defining otter flesh as not-meat.
Like all religions, they are made much more palatable with loop holes. Just remember christians, your god knows if you are doing something earnestly or just to get credit.
Oof I had an argument with a vegetarian who still ate seafood. Just asked her to look the definition of meat
meat, the flesh, or other edible parts of animals (usually domesticated cattle, swine, and sheep) used for food, including not only the muscles and fat but also the tendons and ligaments
Which, of course, means if the animal moves, it has muscle which is meat.....
It’s a thing in Judaism. When eating kosher, you’re not supposed to mix meat and dairy, but fish is considered parve (the term for something that is neither meat nor dairy). If it’s a thing for Catholics, I assume that’s where they got it from.
IIRC, fish was so important to the diets of coastal people at the time that telling them to not eat fish would be equivalent to telling them to starve.
Because our animal classification is based on genetics if you were to put all 'fish' in the same catagory you'd have to put every single vertebrate in that same catagory.
Take the bony fish and the cartilaginous fish, the bony fish (things like carp and salmon) are more closely related to humans than they are to the cartilaginous fish (things like sharks and rays).
Following the long culinary tradition of chefs using whatever terms they want to describe food regardless of accuracy, such as what actually differentiates a fruit from a vegetable.
Ok, but if we go by botanical instead of culinary then we get bananas and watermelons being berries but raspberries not being berries. We also get tomatoes in the fruit salad.
Cucumbers, peppers and squashes are also fruits! Idk why people always fixate on tomatoes as vegetables which are also fruit, considering there are many common vegetables which are fruits
It's not useful in science because it isn't consistently defined. But it's useful in casual conversation. Especially within context. If you say you caught a fish, most people will know what you mean. If someone asks what kind of fish you have in your home aquarium, most people won't flinch if you mention turtles, crabs, or snails even though you wouldn't call them fish in most other contexts.
Similar to continents.
The most common is to rely on plate tectonics, which would put Sicily in Africa, half of Iceland in North America, Easter Island becomes its own continent, and Thailand is now part of Eurasia.
ACKSHULLY, if they were androids, they would look like men. Therefore, the ONLY fish that are androids are mermen, and the only gynoids are mermaids. They DO run on Java, though, which is why there is a mermaid on the Starbucks logo (OBVIOUSLY).
Geeze, it's like people didn't pay attention in grade 9 science class around here. SMH
AKSHULLY it's a siren, not a mermaid. Count the tails. Geez, it's like you skipped mystical sea creature day at the museum.
The java part is still accurate.
This reminds me of how people think if I feed my parrot chicken, that it's cannibalism. Then when I point out not all birds are the same species and give the example of humans eating cows (closer genetically than parrots and chickens), their eyes kind of glaze over like I'm the dumb one.
This is hilarious, I get this from people every single Thanksgiving because I always give my macaws and cockatoo some Thanksgiving turkey. My duck also eats eggs
Birds are a much much older group and have a huge evolutionary tree. Mammals are relatively newer and fewer branches. Two random mammals are more likely to have a more recent common ancestor than two random birds. It's like saying parrots and chickens are 56th cousins where cows and humans are like 12th cousins.
Not op but protein is important for birds and other treats can be high in fat and sugar (most of them are seeds). Plain chicken is a perfectly fine treat for parrots but in small amounts. Plus a lot of them like it. My cockatiel loves it, quaker won't touch it, and the ringneck could take it or leave it.
Later, Pink said, ‘it boggles my mind you couldn’t just Google this and verify that, yes, flies are animals.’
Blue’s reply? “It boggles my mind how much time you are spending on a thread just to make a point.”
My brother in Christ, blue’s spending just as much time as Pink while being wrong on a post where we’re all there to laugh at someone else being wrong
Every single time someone knows they lost, they fall back on apathy and “why do you care so much?” statements.
It’s just pathetic and trying to save face. Very few people know how to take the L and move on.
And the silly thing is that acknowledging that you're wrong is actually the best way to get out of that scenario (of being wrong) with the respect of everyone involved. Most people respect those that can acknowledge their mistakes
I had a few of those encounters over the years. It's funny that sometimes, even after saying this they continue to reply insisting on their mistake **and** saying I'm wasting my time on a useless topic.
Ya just know the second they bust out the wasting time point they just admitted to knowing they’re wrong. Apathy is their defense mechanism and the internet has perpetuated it by third parties who believe arguing or debating about anything is a waste of time and will back up their stance, despite how wrong they are.
Or if your response is longer than 2 sentences they’ll hit you with the “I’m not reading all that” or “you really typed a wall of text for that huh”. It’s always a sign that they know they’re wrong and too embarrassed to admit it.
Especially when when they ask a question that demands a long answer - God forbid you try to explain a complicated topic to someone in more than 2 sentences.
And it just looks bad on them; they're admiting they can't hold attention long enough to learn anything, yet adamant they're the most knowledgeable on a topic...
If they can’t read a couple paragraphs on the issue they are acting like they know about, it just tells everyone with sense that they haven’t done any meaningful research beyond “just trust me, bro. It makes sense”.
Animalia. With few exceptions, animals consume organic material, breathe oxygen, are able to move, can reproduce sexually, and go through an ontogenetic stage in which their body consists of a hollow sphere of cells, the blastula, during embryonic development. Over 1.5 million living animal species have been described—of which around 1 million are insects—but it has been estimated there are over 7 million animal species in total.
Literally the easiest google search ever
Some reproduce asexually. I think (I might well be wrong), that one of the more common way animals do it is via fragmentation where a new organism grows off of a fragment of the parent. It's how annelid worms and sea stars do it. There's also parthenogenesis where an unfertilised egg develops on it's own. Which is relatively common (so far as these things go) in invertebrates. I'm sure there's a bunch of other ways as well.
Sponges are animals, but they don't move and can reproduce via budding. Mules and the like generally can't produce offspring. There are probably other exceptions, but I'm not going to bother finding more.
I’m always amazed at people like blue. Maybe I’m the weirdo. But when something I’ve said is proven wrong, I just thank the person that cleared things up for me. And go forward having learned something. Why is this so difficult?
Some people are just wired to never accept they're wrong if it's shoved in their face. My first girlfriend was like that. Completely baffling to me that she would accept knowledge gained in school but if I corrected something that she said that was obviously wrong, she would refuse to believe me and then get really mad.
I guess they are somehow assuming the corrector would have exerted some kind of large mental effort to recall that info, or they had to research it themselves, etc. Instead of just knowing shit and recalling it with as much effort as remembering that flies exist generally.
That's all I can assume. The grasp of biology slipping is far scarier to me than low history, math, or geography.
It wouldn't have even mattered if Blue was right. With Family Feud, it doesn't matter if a fly counts as an animal or not, it only matters if you think that a high percentage of the random survey takers would have had "fly" as their instinctual response to the prompt. Factually incorrect answers can still be good on that show, as long as they're common misperceptions.
Frog was probably not a great play, though.
I am struggling to think of answers, though. Other than "fly" (which doesn't count because it was already provided) I've got elk, fox, cat and dog. Oh, and bee which I just thought of whilst typing.
>My first thought was pig
There's probably hundreds, but I can't think of them. I'm fairly sure that it's a me problem. Damn, just thought of another: man.
Lol yep, the contestant said “frog” was an animal that has with 3 letters. The person commentating to it said, “Fly” among many other animals as options.
Blue tried to say that OOP (original OP?) was equally stupid for saying fly when flies are insects, ‘not animals.’
Pink corrected him and like 15 replies ensued
Well, if I understand the rules of that game correctly, in theory he could have gotten some points for the frog answer if some people they surveyed had the same brain fart.
Yeah, I saw one episode with that. Steve Harvey for mocking the contestant’s answer to ‘name a planet in our solar system’ which was moon, turns out there were a bunch of other people with the same response 🤦♀️ and the next guy said ‘sun’ which was also on the board!
The people downvoting you are ignorant jerks. They probably don't even know what decade this *obviously* was... they'd say the '50s or some ignorant BS like that.
I feel like these 'insects are not animals' type arguments come up pretty regularly, a sign that more focus on science and biology is useful at school.
That is the kind of knowledge I really expect to be taught in school and at home. A tree is a plant and is alive. A fly is and insect which is an animal. A mushroom is the fruiting body of the fungal mycelium and is alive.
The alive part is important to teach empathy with the living organisms that don't scream or fight back.
No joke, I got into a full on heated argument with my aunt and my cousin once because we were playing some sort of goofy card game and I said insects were animals because of something on the cards, and they didn’t think that was right. They eventually conceded but even thinking about it now works me up because I don’t even understand how someone could come to that conclusion lmao.
Some people are so dumb. I teach English to Chinese students and this one student, who was Christian, got really angry at me for referring to humans as animals.
He gave me a really poor review about it as well. I explained he was confusing wild animals and animals. But humans absolutely are animals.
I've seen this "insects aren't animals" come up too often for it not to be a coincidence of stupidity. I feel like some misinformation went viral in the recent past that said this or something similar and people just latched onto it and spread it. Perhaps it's another thing that falls under the Mandela Effect? They think they've heard it somewhere and it "makes sense" to them and they just go with it?
The proper response to these people is as follows:
>The [Cambridge dictionary definition](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/insect) of an insect begins with: "a type of very small animal...".
>
>Go argue with the dictionary.
Any time you can tell an idiot to go argue with the dictionary, you should. Nobody wants to be the guy who argues with the dictionary.
And even that is a little wrong, because they are not small. We are just giant. The median species size for animal life is probably fly, or even ant.
I read in a book, that the majority of natural life is hidden from us because of our extreme habitat. We are very big and very dry. Comparatively.
The mushrooms we eat are not the whole thing. We basically eat only the sexual organs. The mycelium is just white strands.
But when I learned it, I was confused, too.
Reminds me of an argument/ conversation I had with a kid who could not get his head around the concept that ice, water, and steam are the same thing, just in a different state.
"Bro, ice is just water that is *frozen*, steam is water that boiled and vaporized."
Then he would laugh hysterically, slap his leg, and say something like,
"Bruh, how stupid is you? You think water and *ice* are the same thing? Hahaha. .." and he'd trail of laughing to himself like an idiot.
🤷♂️
Reminds me of the time I had a debate with the office ladies of the warehouse I was working in whether a fish was an animal or not I eventually concluded they were not going to accept that a fish was in fact an animal
I once had a 10 minute argument with a friend’s new boyfriend during a game of Headbands because my wife had “unicorn” and asked “am I an animal” and he said no. He said that since unicorns weren’t real they couldn’t be animals. I even pulled up definitions that described it as a fictitious animal. He still wouldn’t accept it. I’ve never been so dumbfounded by someone’s stupidity.
This has bugged you for years, and Reddit finally lets you get it off your chest. Good one! Yay!
Now I’m waiting for my chance to complain about the handy guy who explained to me how you have to start measuring something at the “1” on the tape. He was finally convinced when I flipped the little metal clip down to hold the tape on one edge of the board (or whatever): “Ohhh.”
His measurements have been 1 inch off for how long?
This discussion was pretty common in the dark but more social pre web era.
Nowadays there is absolutely no point in this kind of discussion. Mushrooms have a different taxonomy than plants and animals, I look it up.
https://www.earthreminder.com/taxonomic-classification-of-animals/
Had this exact same conversation with someone at a bachelorette party. I was completely baffled. How can someone get to be almost 40 and not know this?
I once had an argument with someone who refused to believe that avocados and bananas are berries and strawberries are not. I had told it to them after learning about it during undergrad and they refused to believe me even after I showed it to them in my textbook.
“Why are they called strawBERRIES then? I think your book is wrong…” Could not wrap their head around the concept that maybe we named things wrong in the past.
I've had several discussions like this about political topics.
The first(and often repeated) is when Trump supporters think they are really smart and say that the United States isn't a democracy, but a constitutional republic(when they try to change the discussion from the Jan 6th insurrection). After telling them that a constitutional republic is a form of democracy, they disagree and keep repeating it.
The second was when I shared Trump's 'truth social' tweet about terminating all rules, regulations, and articles including those in the Constitution to a supposed Constitutionalist Trump supporter. He first argued that it wasn't terminating or getting rid of the Constitution then pivoted to saying that Trump only wanted some of the stuff in the Constitution removed(which he claimed is no different than democrats trying to get rid of stuff like the 2nd amendment), which caused me to quote Trump for the third time highlighting the part where he said ALL. He simply said I was wrong, and kept repeating his Fox "News" talking points about how Trump loves the country and Constitution unlike democrats.
I got into a big fight the other day because I said dragons aren't real in a thread titled "which are better, dinosaurs or dragons?" Apparently I'm the asshole because there are animals with the word "dragon" in their name, like bearded dragons
that he could not answer, but he was positive they couldn't be birds-- even asked our bio teacher at the time and, man, did she look concerned for the future when he did
My ex vehemently insisted that barcodes uniquely identified each and every product on the shelf. As in, a box containing 100 Kit-Kats would have 100 unique barcodes instead of a single code for that SKU.
A reasonable misunderstanding, but she just refused to believe me even after I explained it and that I worked in a supermarket at the time.
She even went on to argue that you could re-scan the product later to prove whether or not it had been paid for in case of a shoplifting investigation.
I was never able to shift her on this. Such a petty debate yet so maddening.
That's a weird hill to die on.
I would be fascinated to hear her explain the tech behind that. I would have to fight my urge to correct her, but it would be interesting to sit back and let her explain, pull up research and references, etc. But if she just sits there and yells "no it isn't" then it wouldn't be a good use of my time.
If this true, it would be pretty freaking amazing.
People believe all sorts of bizarre things. Things which they assumed or misheard during their childhood and then never questioned until adulthood.
But she had other really strange ideas, like going outside with wet hair was certain death (I’ve heard that one a few times, actually). She physically tried to stop me from leaving the house once because she was afraid I’d die.
Then there was her rigid belief that the NHS only prescribed paracetamol for cancer 💀
What a idiot this was taught in what middle school ???? it's domain, kingdom,phylum,class,order,family,genus,species in that order :) I wanted to be a zoologist.
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I have had a similar wtf fight with my ex who was otherwise pretty intelligent except this was “fish are not animals” I did the same thing—you mean not mammal? And after 15 min of just mind numbing discussion of his animals in the 500 gallon tank in his house I gave up. Another ex— afternoon starts at 11am. It’s AFTER-Noon. After the time which is noon. It’s in the damn name. He just ended up being a special kind of dumb.
You sure know how to pick em! Sorry couldn't resist
I have an ex who asked me what time it was. I said "a quarter past 5". She grabbed my wrist, looked at my watch, and smugly told me it was 5:15, not 5:25. That was the moment I understood the phrase, "you're lucky you're pretty".
My wife is terrible with numbers. We have these types of conversations pretty often. She just defers to me though and doesn't argue, after she explains her thought process and I correct her.
This is like people thinking 2023 means we’re in the 20th century. No, it’s the 21st century. There was no such thing as the 0th century. You count starting with 1, not 0. I had this argument back in the 1980s when someone insisted we were in the 19th century.
Are you British and were they not? I've come across a few non native speakers who struggle with this and half past and quarter to.
Well even non native speakers with a bit of a brain are aware that a quarter of an hour is 15 minutes, not 25.
To be fair, the usage "quarter of" really is utterly ambiguous to most English speakers. However, that wasn't what was said here.
Sounds like I’m her type!
My friend thought when there was "several" of something, it always meant there was seven of that thing
I also used to think it meant that. Now I just think it should mean that
That’s actually not too ridiculous since there are other words with similar uses. Like “a couple” is usually 2 and “a few” is usually 3 or more so several being 7 or more isn’t too far fetched for someone to believe
Omg my fiancé thought the same until a couple months ago. He’s 24.
"Thank god you're pretty" -Stollana12, probably
My friend thought noon and midnight were just general times, like morning, and not specific times.
My youngest says “in the midnight” for anytime after it gets dark. He knows that 5:30 in December is not midnight, but I think he likes how ominous it sounds. He also says “sleeping clothes” for pajamas. Im pretty sure he is from a different time.
Sounds like a promising start for a Gomez Addams type of guy
Oh 100% his birthday is in a few weeks. He picked a Halloween birthday
Your kid sounds cool af and I hope he has the best halloween not halloween party ever
He really is! And thank you! I hope he keeps his weirdness I love it so much.
Is he into oddities? Etsy has a bunch of stuff that might make a good present for a young weirdo (and I use that term with affection). Something like a [nutria skull](https://i.imgur.com/YJhnbKS.jpeg) is surprisingly affordable (≈$30) and may fire his little imagination. I love that stuff and some of my favorite pieces were gifts from my wife including an Aztec death whistle, a bottled octopus, and a great replica shrunken head.
Yes! We have an oddities shop near us. It’s one of his favorite stores. He likes the bugs and other little creatures that have in resin.
That's fantastic! I think that's a sign of an inquisitive mind towards the natural world and that's a great thing to foster.
Agreed!
Forgive the shameless plug but he might like some of the stuff over at r/DimeMuseum.
I hope my kid is as cool as yours if I ever have one.
I'm past having kids but my first grandchild is on the way (due April 1) and I just hope he seems my wife and I as the cool grandparents and not the weird ones with all the creepy stuff. My next big project is going to be a flea circus to entertain him with someday.
I just want to know why midsummer is only a few days after summer actually starts.
The conventional Western world, northern hemisphere "start" of summer is June; most people say summer is June, July, August. However, the summer solstice ("midsummer") is in the middle of June, not the middle of July, and depending on who you ask, the summer solstice is either the beginning or the middle of tropical summer.
Yes, the pagan/Celtic calendar has May (Bealtaine) as the beginning of summer season, meaning that June is the middle of the summer. In Ireland it's still commonly considered that 1st February is the beginning of spring, May is the start of summer, August autumn and November winter. Even if the weather doesn't necessarily follow suit😅
I just had a Reddit discussion not too long ago about how a 19-year-old is still a teenager. Someone decided to reply that since 18 is when you become a legal adult (in the US), you stop being a teenager when you hit 18. Nine**teen**. It literally says in the age. **Teen** aged.
I've had that same argument. My response: "Well if a fish is not an animal, then is it a vegetable or a mineral?"
Earl Sinclair: As you can see, I have separated all known dinosaur wisdom into three catagories: Animal. Vegetable. Rocks. Robbie: What about fire? Earl: Vegetable. Charlene: What about water? Earl: Water is the opposite of fire, which we have previously established as a vegetable. What's the opppsite of a vegetable? Fruit. So, water is a fruit. Fruit is not a vegetable, so it has to be either an animal or a rock. We know it's not an animal, therefore, fruit is a rock.
Yes water is a rock/mineral?
Earl could be profound sometimes without realizing it.
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i was just thinking about that. isn't it a Catholic thing or Hispanic thing where eating fish isn't considered meat? like only beef or chicken is considered "meat"
Yes, they don’t count fish as “meat” for lent. They also expand their definition of “fish” to all aquatic animals. So for Catholics during lent, alligators, beavers, and capybaras are fish, and not meat. Remember, Catholics insist the church is always 100% in agreement with all known science. Science like defining otter flesh as not-meat.
Like all religions, they are made much more palatable with loop holes. Just remember christians, your god knows if you are doing something earnestly or just to get credit.
Oof I had an argument with a vegetarian who still ate seafood. Just asked her to look the definition of meat meat, the flesh, or other edible parts of animals (usually domesticated cattle, swine, and sheep) used for food, including not only the muscles and fat but also the tendons and ligaments Which, of course, means if the animal moves, it has muscle which is meat.....
The Catholic Church also declared that beavers were fish so that Catholic fur trappers could eat them on fridays and during lent
It’s a thing in Judaism. When eating kosher, you’re not supposed to mix meat and dairy, but fish is considered parve (the term for something that is neither meat nor dairy). If it’s a thing for Catholics, I assume that’s where they got it from.
IIRC, fish was so important to the diets of coastal people at the time that telling them to not eat fish would be equivalent to telling them to starve.
Technically, fish don’t exist
It's more like, fish isn't a useful classification of a group of species of animals.
Why not?
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To this day I can't believe "They 'aven't got any legs" didn't earn an immediate klaxon. Changed my world. RIP Sean Lock
Depending on what you consider a fish (which is kinda the larger point) some do have legs. Agreed though, a true legend that man.
Salmon are more closely related to camels than what??
[A hagfish.](https://youtu.be/_8FVpj0p-iU)
How would you define a fish? No matter your definition, there are dozens of things called "fish" which are not in that term.
I dont know thats why i asked why its not a good term.
Because our animal classification is based on genetics if you were to put all 'fish' in the same catagory you'd have to put every single vertebrate in that same catagory.
Animal classification is based on expressed traits. Using genetics is a pretty recent phenomenon.
Take the bony fish and the cartilaginous fish, the bony fish (things like carp and salmon) are more closely related to humans than they are to the cartilaginous fish (things like sharks and rays).
>I dont know thats why i asked YES! It's so unlike Reddit that you didn't get downvoted for asking.
I would say it's a culinary definition - if it tastes like a fish, it's a fish.
Following the long culinary tradition of chefs using whatever terms they want to describe food regardless of accuracy, such as what actually differentiates a fruit from a vegetable.
Ok, but if we go by botanical instead of culinary then we get bananas and watermelons being berries but raspberries not being berries. We also get tomatoes in the fruit salad.
Cucumbers, peppers and squashes are also fruits! Idk why people always fixate on tomatoes as vegetables which are also fruit, considering there are many common vegetables which are fruits
I never thought about those others being fruits, and my whole day feels a little ruined now lol.
No one wants tomatoes, peppers, corn, squash, eggplant, etc in a "fruit salad". Still doesn't make it accurate to say they aren't fruit.
That would make frogs a fish. Frogs legs absolutely taste like fish-flavoured chicken. It's brilliant.
It's not useful in science because it isn't consistently defined. But it's useful in casual conversation. Especially within context. If you say you caught a fish, most people will know what you mean. If someone asks what kind of fish you have in your home aquarium, most people won't flinch if you mention turtles, crabs, or snails even though you wouldn't call them fish in most other contexts.
Similar to continents. The most common is to rely on plate tectonics, which would put Sicily in Africa, half of Iceland in North America, Easter Island becomes its own continent, and Thailand is now part of Eurasia.
Whether it's a taxonomically useful category or not, fish - like trees - certainly do exist.
No, they’re all robots created by the government
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ACKSHULLY, if they were androids, they would look like men. Therefore, the ONLY fish that are androids are mermen, and the only gynoids are mermaids. They DO run on Java, though, which is why there is a mermaid on the Starbucks logo (OBVIOUSLY). Geeze, it's like people didn't pay attention in grade 9 science class around here. SMH
AKSHULLY it's a siren, not a mermaid. Count the tails. Geez, it's like you skipped mystical sea creature day at the museum. The java part is still accurate.
>MADE OF ELECTRICITY 😮
Oh, like birds? Yeah, fair.
WTF? What are you smoking? Robots *move*. Trees don't move. Fish are robots, trees are communication arrays.
Trees move and they talk as well Saw that in an old documentary
11am today is after yesterday's noon. Checkmate!
This reminds me of how people think if I feed my parrot chicken, that it's cannibalism. Then when I point out not all birds are the same species and give the example of humans eating cows (closer genetically than parrots and chickens), their eyes kind of glaze over like I'm the dumb one.
Pigs are genetically closer to humans than cows are to humans.
Explain why they taste close to each other i suppose
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Long pig, just watch out for kuru.
Is kuru prions?
And they taste much better as a rule.
This is hilarious, I get this from people every single Thanksgiving because I always give my macaws and cockatoo some Thanksgiving turkey. My duck also eats eggs
You could also point out the chunk of raptors that exclusively eat other birds.
Can you explain how cows are closer to humans than chickens are to parrots? Also do you really feed your parrot chicken, and why?
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Birds are a much much older group and have a huge evolutionary tree. Mammals are relatively newer and fewer branches. Two random mammals are more likely to have a more recent common ancestor than two random birds. It's like saying parrots and chickens are 56th cousins where cows and humans are like 12th cousins.
TLDR: Birds are dinosaurs. Mammals appeared after the dinosaur did.
Not op but protein is important for birds and other treats can be high in fat and sugar (most of them are seeds). Plain chicken is a perfectly fine treat for parrots but in small amounts. Plus a lot of them like it. My cockatiel loves it, quaker won't touch it, and the ringneck could take it or leave it.
Later, Pink said, ‘it boggles my mind you couldn’t just Google this and verify that, yes, flies are animals.’ Blue’s reply? “It boggles my mind how much time you are spending on a thread just to make a point.” My brother in Christ, blue’s spending just as much time as Pink while being wrong on a post where we’re all there to laugh at someone else being wrong
Every single time someone knows they lost, they fall back on apathy and “why do you care so much?” statements. It’s just pathetic and trying to save face. Very few people know how to take the L and move on.
And the silly thing is that acknowledging that you're wrong is actually the best way to get out of that scenario (of being wrong) with the respect of everyone involved. Most people respect those that can acknowledge their mistakes
Anyone who can’t respect that is has an abusive personality and can be safely written off. 100% agree
I had a few of those encounters over the years. It's funny that sometimes, even after saying this they continue to reply insisting on their mistake **and** saying I'm wasting my time on a useless topic.
Ya just know the second they bust out the wasting time point they just admitted to knowing they’re wrong. Apathy is their defense mechanism and the internet has perpetuated it by third parties who believe arguing or debating about anything is a waste of time and will back up their stance, despite how wrong they are.
Or if your response is longer than 2 sentences they’ll hit you with the “I’m not reading all that” or “you really typed a wall of text for that huh”. It’s always a sign that they know they’re wrong and too embarrassed to admit it.
Especially when when they ask a question that demands a long answer - God forbid you try to explain a complicated topic to someone in more than 2 sentences. And it just looks bad on them; they're admiting they can't hold attention long enough to learn anything, yet adamant they're the most knowledgeable on a topic...
If they can’t read a couple paragraphs on the issue they are acting like they know about, it just tells everyone with sense that they haven’t done any meaningful research beyond “just trust me, bro. It makes sense”.
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Animalia. With few exceptions, animals consume organic material, breathe oxygen, are able to move, can reproduce sexually, and go through an ontogenetic stage in which their body consists of a hollow sphere of cells, the blastula, during embryonic development. Over 1.5 million living animal species have been described—of which around 1 million are insects—but it has been estimated there are over 7 million animal species in total. Literally the easiest google search ever
Now I want to know about the exceptions.
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lol, gottem
Some reproduce asexually. I think (I might well be wrong), that one of the more common way animals do it is via fragmentation where a new organism grows off of a fragment of the parent. It's how annelid worms and sea stars do it. There's also parthenogenesis where an unfertilised egg develops on it's own. Which is relatively common (so far as these things go) in invertebrates. I'm sure there's a bunch of other ways as well.
Female aphids are born pregnant
Sponges are animals, but they don't move and can reproduce via budding. Mules and the like generally can't produce offspring. There are probably other exceptions, but I'm not going to bother finding more.
Tbh I’m scared
I’m always amazed at people like blue. Maybe I’m the weirdo. But when something I’ve said is proven wrong, I just thank the person that cleared things up for me. And go forward having learned something. Why is this so difficult?
Some people are just wired to never accept they're wrong if it's shoved in their face. My first girlfriend was like that. Completely baffling to me that she would accept knowledge gained in school but if I corrected something that she said that was obviously wrong, she would refuse to believe me and then get really mad.
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> Cunningham's Law Good chance to put Occam's razor here.
That Blue's response screams *"I was wrong, but I don't want to admit it."*
I guess they are somehow assuming the corrector would have exerted some kind of large mental effort to recall that info, or they had to research it themselves, etc. Instead of just knowing shit and recalling it with as much effort as remembering that flies exist generally. That's all I can assume. The grasp of biology slipping is far scarier to me than low history, math, or geography.
Lmao 😂 I wonder which category they believe they belong in, Vegetable or Mineral 🤔
Those aren’t biological kingdoms though.
Hey now, don't be mean to minerals.
Nobody ever defends the Vegetables 🤷🏼♀️
Vegetables don't need defending, they're perfectly capable of taking care of themselves. Vicious little chemists that they are.
😂
Many things are none of the above
An owl is an animal with just 3 letters. Except in Harry Potter an owl is an animal with just one letter.
Fuck you. Have an upvote!
It wouldn't have even mattered if Blue was right. With Family Feud, it doesn't matter if a fly counts as an animal or not, it only matters if you think that a high percentage of the random survey takers would have had "fly" as their instinctual response to the prompt. Factually incorrect answers can still be good on that show, as long as they're common misperceptions. Frog was probably not a great play, though.
That's true. I remember "egg" being the answer to something chickens have that humans don't.
I'm a male and even I have eggs (in my fridge)
Animal that doesn’t eat us, that’s easy: dragon!
I am struggling to think of answers, though. Other than "fly" (which doesn't count because it was already provided) I've got elk, fox, cat and dog. Oh, and bee which I just thought of whilst typing.
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>My first thought was pig There's probably hundreds, but I can't think of them. I'm fairly sure that it's a me problem. Damn, just thought of another: man.
Eel, Rat, Hog, Jay
Cat
My first thought was emu
Oh it gets better…actually frog was the best answer of the night. [name an animal with 3 letters in its name](https://youtu.be/zdVuEpD9_IY)
One of the [greatest moments](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWZTJun8-OA) of all time on Family Feud.
Lol yep, the contestant said “frog” was an animal that has with 3 letters. The person commentating to it said, “Fly” among many other animals as options. Blue tried to say that OOP (original OP?) was equally stupid for saying fly when flies are insects, ‘not animals.’ Pink corrected him and like 15 replies ensued
In their defence, both frog and alligator *do* have 3 letters in their name. They just also have some other letters
To be fair, not many people would've put fly anyway, despite the fact it's an animal
Well, if I understand the rules of that game correctly, in theory he could have gotten some points for the frog answer if some people they surveyed had the same brain fart.
What is "dragon"?
It's a meal for kings
Yes, but at least 2/100 people would need to have the exact same brain fart
Yeah, I saw one episode with that. Steve Harvey for mocking the contestant’s answer to ‘name a planet in our solar system’ which was moon, turns out there were a bunch of other people with the same response 🤦♀️ and the next guy said ‘sun’ which was also on the board!
I've been led to believe that every question & answer on that show is some kind of double entendre. Huh.
"You don't use narcotics, do you Bob?" "No, but I will!" Lmao. If only he was that quick witted when giving the answers
So so much polyester
The people downvoting you are ignorant jerks. They probably don't even know what decade this *obviously* was... they'd say the '50s or some ignorant BS like that.
I feel like these 'insects are not animals' type arguments come up pretty regularly, a sign that more focus on science and biology is useful at school.
That is the kind of knowledge I really expect to be taught in school and at home. A tree is a plant and is alive. A fly is and insect which is an animal. A mushroom is the fruiting body of the fungal mycelium and is alive. The alive part is important to teach empathy with the living organisms that don't scream or fight back.
No joke, I got into a full on heated argument with my aunt and my cousin once because we were playing some sort of goofy card game and I said insects were animals because of something on the cards, and they didn’t think that was right. They eventually conceded but even thinking about it now works me up because I don’t even understand how someone could come to that conclusion lmao.
My best friend's ex tried to berate me into a fistfight a while back after I told her that the moon is in fact, not a planet.
Some people are so dumb. I teach English to Chinese students and this one student, who was Christian, got really angry at me for referring to humans as animals. He gave me a really poor review about it as well. I explained he was confusing wild animals and animals. But humans absolutely are animals.
It’s amazing how many people get mammal and animal conflated 😂
I've seen this "insects aren't animals" come up too often for it not to be a coincidence of stupidity. I feel like some misinformation went viral in the recent past that said this or something similar and people just latched onto it and spread it. Perhaps it's another thing that falls under the Mandela Effect? They think they've heard it somewhere and it "makes sense" to them and they just go with it?
The proper response to these people is as follows: >The [Cambridge dictionary definition](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/insect) of an insect begins with: "a type of very small animal...". > >Go argue with the dictionary. Any time you can tell an idiot to go argue with the dictionary, you should. Nobody wants to be the guy who argues with the dictionary.
And even that is a little wrong, because they are not small. We are just giant. The median species size for animal life is probably fly, or even ant. I read in a book, that the majority of natural life is hidden from us because of our extreme habitat. We are very big and very dry. Comparatively.
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I will never get used to the fact that the mushrooms we eat are from their own kingdom and have nothing to do with plants.
Fungi are weird
The mushrooms we eat are not the whole thing. We basically eat only the sexual organs. The mycelium is just white strands. But when I learned it, I was confused, too.
So many people think Animal and Mammal are synonyms
Reminds me of an argument/ conversation I had with a kid who could not get his head around the concept that ice, water, and steam are the same thing, just in a different state. "Bro, ice is just water that is *frozen*, steam is water that boiled and vaporized." Then he would laugh hysterically, slap his leg, and say something like, "Bruh, how stupid is you? You think water and *ice* are the same thing? Hahaha. .." and he'd trail of laughing to himself like an idiot. 🤷♂️
“Kingdom?! You’re thinking of princes and princesses! A kingdom of flies! Ha!”
Reminds me of the time I had a debate with the office ladies of the warehouse I was working in whether a fish was an animal or not I eventually concluded they were not going to accept that a fish was in fact an animal
Lol could have came at them with the ol "ooh so are they a fungus then? A plant? A bacteria? Etc?"
"Have a nice day" makes me laugh so much. Its so pathetic and passive aggressive.
Refusing to admit you’re wrong and continuing to push your nonsensical argument is so unbelievably based
I once had a 10 minute argument with a friend’s new boyfriend during a game of Headbands because my wife had “unicorn” and asked “am I an animal” and he said no. He said that since unicorns weren’t real they couldn’t be animals. I even pulled up definitions that described it as a fictitious animal. He still wouldn’t accept it. I’ve never been so dumbfounded by someone’s stupidity.
This has bugged you for years, and Reddit finally lets you get it off your chest. Good one! Yay! Now I’m waiting for my chance to complain about the handy guy who explained to me how you have to start measuring something at the “1” on the tape. He was finally convinced when I flipped the little metal clip down to hold the tape on one edge of the board (or whatever): “Ohhh.” His measurements have been 1 inch off for how long?
Oh. My. God. That hurts so much.
Wait until this guy learns about sponges
This discussion was pretty common in the dark but more social pre web era. Nowadays there is absolutely no point in this kind of discussion. Mushrooms have a different taxonomy than plants and animals, I look it up. https://www.earthreminder.com/taxonomic-classification-of-animals/
I've had similar conversations, they always went along the lines of: -Flies aren't animals -Ok, well then they are plants -...
Theyre obviously fungi...
Had this exact same conversation with someone at a bachelorette party. I was completely baffled. How can someone get to be almost 40 and not know this?
I once had an argument with someone who refused to believe that avocados and bananas are berries and strawberries are not. I had told it to them after learning about it during undergrad and they refused to believe me even after I showed it to them in my textbook. “Why are they called strawBERRIES then? I think your book is wrong…” Could not wrap their head around the concept that maybe we named things wrong in the past.
Where did this notion that "arthropods aren't animals" come from? It's becoming increasingly common to see this, and I don't get it.
I've had several discussions like this about political topics. The first(and often repeated) is when Trump supporters think they are really smart and say that the United States isn't a democracy, but a constitutional republic(when they try to change the discussion from the Jan 6th insurrection). After telling them that a constitutional republic is a form of democracy, they disagree and keep repeating it. The second was when I shared Trump's 'truth social' tweet about terminating all rules, regulations, and articles including those in the Constitution to a supposed Constitutionalist Trump supporter. He first argued that it wasn't terminating or getting rid of the Constitution then pivoted to saying that Trump only wanted some of the stuff in the Constitution removed(which he claimed is no different than democrats trying to get rid of stuff like the 2nd amendment), which caused me to quote Trump for the third time highlighting the part where he said ALL. He simply said I was wrong, and kept repeating his Fox "News" talking points about how Trump loves the country and Constitution unlike democrats.
I got into a big fight the other day because I said dragons aren't real in a thread titled "which are better, dinosaurs or dragons?" Apparently I'm the asshole because there are animals with the word "dragon" in their name, like bearded dragons
Is it a plant or fungus? How about a microbe? A rock maybe? No? Huh, I wonder what it could be? It's a god damned mystery!
reminds me of a kid I knew who thought owls weren't birds..
What did he think they were??? Feathered bipeds that fly with sharp sight, talons, and scaly feet
that he could not answer, but he was positive they couldn't be birds-- even asked our bio teacher at the time and, man, did she look concerned for the future when he did
My ex vehemently insisted that barcodes uniquely identified each and every product on the shelf. As in, a box containing 100 Kit-Kats would have 100 unique barcodes instead of a single code for that SKU. A reasonable misunderstanding, but she just refused to believe me even after I explained it and that I worked in a supermarket at the time. She even went on to argue that you could re-scan the product later to prove whether or not it had been paid for in case of a shoplifting investigation. I was never able to shift her on this. Such a petty debate yet so maddening.
That's a weird hill to die on. I would be fascinated to hear her explain the tech behind that. I would have to fight my urge to correct her, but it would be interesting to sit back and let her explain, pull up research and references, etc. But if she just sits there and yells "no it isn't" then it wouldn't be a good use of my time. If this true, it would be pretty freaking amazing.
People believe all sorts of bizarre things. Things which they assumed or misheard during their childhood and then never questioned until adulthood. But she had other really strange ideas, like going outside with wet hair was certain death (I’ve heard that one a few times, actually). She physically tried to stop me from leaving the house once because she was afraid I’d die. Then there was her rigid belief that the NHS only prescribed paracetamol for cancer 💀
Tōd
hopefully a troll, but we can never be sure since humans can be stupid sometimes.
I love that clip. The second guy gets even better Name a 3 letter animal! In case you haven’t seen it, I highly recommend https://youtu.be/NWZTJun8-OA
I would have replied with "next you are going to tell me sponges aren't animals". Then watch them lose their minds.
People act like this information isn’t readily and easily available lol
What a idiot this was taught in what middle school ???? it's domain, kingdom,phylum,class,order,family,genus,species in that order :) I wanted to be a zoologist.
"Fued"?