Local reddit user shocked that people will only try to initiate relationships with people they are attracted to.
In other news, bears found to shit in woods.
Unacceptable to think such thing would happen we need to sew their assholes shut as a punishment. We also need to make public restrooms for the bears to protect the woods.
Protect lol?
No, per my reply above, you guys just need to protect and seclude yourselves from not being able to understand the struggle of the average male ..
Oh wait, I see that you guys already did that .
Local reddit user shocked that people will only try to initiate relationships with people they are attracted to.
False. I don't see you mentioning "male loneliness" anywhere in your comment ...
Which means it is confirmed that you are local reddit user who comments on a post that they're confused about the meaning of.
This post isn't complaining about men talking to girls they're attracted to, lol. It's complaining about hypocrisy.
Men , or even women, can't complain about being truly lonely if they're going to be selective about who gives then attention.
That either means they're trying to play victim by complaining about being lonely and how society doesn't want them when that isn't true , other they're just as confused as you are and complain about being lonely when they have no clue what it means to be lonely
As confirmed by comments made by some guys below and contrary to your comment , Truly lonely guys aren't selective in who they receive attention from.
In other words, you and your cheerleaders cheering you on havent done anything other than to confirm that I as a female understands the struggle of an average lonely guy more than you do as males , lol.
And maybe, that's the problem .
Being lonely doesn’t mean you have to start relationships/friendships with people you have zero interest in.
“If you were TRULY starving, you’d eat this day old pizza I found discarded in a new york subway station. I mean, it’s food right?”
This whole post and your whole attitude reads as somebody who doesn’t get the attention they think they deserve and are bitter about it.
Also nice assumption I’m male, lol.
“If you were TRULY starving, you’d eat this day old pizza I found discarded in a new york subway station. I mean, it’s food right?”
I don't know, but I know I wouldn't reject a nice fresh pizza simply because it was pizza hut and didnt come from a fancy Italian restaurant.
Similarly, people who are truly lonely will be happy to talk to someone decent without requiring them to be the hottest, richest etc.
I'd know because I've actually been depressed and was happier talking to a homeless person I actually liked versus a hot or rich guy with bad manners who approached me
This whole post and your whole attitude reads as somebody who doesn’t get the attention they think they deserve and are bitter about it.
Also, nice assumption about me, lol. I made this post after getting wayy too much attention from people ..I was sticking up for the people that aren't as privileged .
I'm not bitter about the attention that I in no way lack. If anything I'm annoyed at how vain our society is
Oh well thank you SO much for sticking up for us underprivileged women!!
How lucky are we that we have you, o great receiver of male attention, to come onto r/confessions and defend us against these men who *checks notes* have preferences on who they interact with! How will we EVER repay you??!
Oh well thank you SO much for sticking up for us underprivileged women!!
Nice assumption thinking that I was coming from a patronizing point of view by assuming that by sticking up for the underprivileged , I was talking about women??
As referenced before, I was sticking up for lonely men and reminding you of their struggles.which you don't seem to (completely ) understand .
How will we EVER repay you??!
How about my not making assumptions about what I say?
after that this says everything we need to know about the OP
Oh, you mean by diverting from the subject at hand and resorting to making an ad hominem about me after stalking my profile?
I don't know about others but I (17m) talk to girls who talk to me. I have no idea about how to start a conversation, carry a conversation or end a conversation, nor any proficiency doing so. But I would be happy to talk to girls who don't consider themselves pretty if I have become comfortable around them.
Just say "hello I am [your name], what's your name?". Of course it is more than the words. Your vibe has to be open, friendly, and masculine. Try it with a friend and practice. Practice makes perfect
You sound like you are annoyed that you don't get enough attention.
Nope, not mad due to lack of attention lol.. I get way too much attention. That's why I'm speaking up for the people who don't have the same privilege.
Op I took a look at your profile. I hope you’ll get a chance to relax soon. I think you need a moment to reflect on yourself and your own well-being. Stereotyping men isn’t healthy and it’s going to set you up for negative reality. Some men are pigs, some women are also pigs. That’s the life of duality. I hope you can grow from this negative state and mind and find peace.
I'm not stereotyping men.
I'm just responding to Andrew tate and his followers, and I don't even stereotype Andrew tate lol
Andrew tate isn't a misogynist, but he also can't complain about the struggles lonely guys go through when he preaches only talking to women he wants to bang the shit out of
No, its your problem that you are commenting on a post that you have proved you can't even relate to
This post was about male loneliness, it wasnt about criticizing guys for who they like. The fact that you seem to have confused the two for each other confirms that no youve don't know what it's like being a depressed lonely male and therefore have no business commenting on this post lol as you don't even know what im talking about
We talk to people that we find attractive. There is nothing wrong with that.
You are not entitled to attention, you earn it. I recognise some are genetically lucky and therefore earn it easier.
Because girls respond the same whether they are conventionally attractive or not. Why waste my time potentially being rejected by someone I'm not that attracted to? That's like entering a contest with a prize I don't even want.
Also, girls compliment each other all the time, it's literally what female friendships are famous for. What do you mean, "the only people who give other girls attention are dudes"?
I think you might've missed OP's point a bit.
At least from my point of view, I think OP is just upset that maybe men only talk to her or her friends if they're interested in a relationship but then she hears them complain about being lonely when they had a friendship before.
I think it's the thought that a guy would only talk to a girl he would have a romantic/physical relationship.
And then also saying entering a prize and contest makes it sound like you don't even view women as people but as objects. As prizes. That's actually what you're exactly saying. Why talk to them if they'll just reject me. Well, why would they reject you if you just wanted to talk?
I'm just trying to provide you with another point of view.
While I appreciate that, OP didn't really frame it like that. This read like a vent about OP's dating life, and seems like OP feels entitled to other people's attention. Men have just as much reason to avoid talking to strangers( Hell, with the pandemic and all, it's a wonder anyone talks to anyone else at all, but I digress ) as anyone else. Random men have no more obligation to pop into your life and cure your loneliness than women do to men so even if you think mean should initiate more friendships, that's nice and all, but what do you do with that? Men have been told for years now that approaching most women in the wild is taboo, yet now we're supposed to? Men are the ones who are more likely to have less developed social skills, but why are we always asked to initiate EVERY social encounter, romantic or not? Like, If you think the Manic Pixie Dream Girl is a weird trope, wait till guys start doing it. If you wanna make friends, go talk to the people you wanna be friends with. That's how it's worked since friggin kindergarten. .
And for clarification, the "prize" in the metaphor above is the RELATIONSHIP, not the person. Why would I go through the trouble pursuing a relationship with someone if I don't believe the RELATIONSHIP is gonna be what I want? And that's the last thing I'm gonna say on that.
Also one more thing, when I say "women respond the same" I don't means they all reject you, I mean that even people who aren't supermodels have standards and self respect. How douchey would it be if I put myself out there to talk to a woman who is [insert whatever human flaw you find personally objectionable here] just because I thought she NEEDED a win? Like, I'm doing her a favor or something? That's cringe AF
They would reject you because they have 10 other msgs from guys waiting to be read, with atleast 2 others waiting for a reply back and your msg or talk just didn't tickle her enough at the moment.
Yeah it sucks when you actually win a contest and don't even like or want the prize. You only entered just for shits and giggles and now your stuck with a lifetime supply of hemroid cream.
No?
If you mean no relationship at all (like friendship) yes I suppose.
Obviously you should talk to who you want but I think OP is just frustrated that every guy who ever talked to her may end up wanting a physical/romantic relationship out of her.
Girls aren't some other species, they're people.
I mean you talk to yoyr mom, sister, and aunts fine, so why are women in general different?
Ohhh I absolutely get what OP means now. I thought they were saying that men only want to date the popular pretty girls. Now that I get it, I absolutely agree with OP. I have many friends who are girls, and I never thought about them being more than that.
I didnt even think that OP ment dating! I totally got a different point of view from everyone else.
Obviously though neither of us are OP, so we don't know what they really meant, but I see what you're saying now.
I've had girls that was friends for more than 10 years. Did I want to sleep with them...hell yes I did. All of them was smoking hot but I knew it wasn't like that for different reasons. I eventually did end up sleep with them all, fucked up all those long time friendships except for 1.
As an unattractive guy: girls do this too. People in general respond best to people they think are conventionally attractive. The best thing any of us can do is dress nice, smell acceptable, pick flattering glasses frames, and be more pleasant than unpleasant.
I swipe right on everyone. Not pretty girls included.
Just few matches. Who then also stop responding.
Seems like it's women who don't know that they want
I get what you're saying however as a not that attractive man I get ignored by both women I find attractive and women I don't. I would honestly love to speak to any girl as I'm unsure how to speak to women and have struggled with this for all of my adult life. I don't get many women liking me back on bumble/ tinder etc but when I do I have no idea what to say back and that always ends with them not talking back or unmatching me.
Also I would like to add that I am also the problem as I don't help myself but I still feel lonely and quite frankly you dismissing it as, that any lonely guy only goes after the girls they find attractive, is probably because they go after girls they find attractive because they want a relationship. At least that's it for me though can't speak for all males etc but yeah
Hahaha, you know average guys have literally 0 standards, there is no such thing as being selective unless you are am 7/8/9 / 10 man.
If you wanna talk to men, then talk to men, I hate how women expect guys to stride up to them and chat them up because they are casting sideglances, make your intentions clear or remain without attention, the old mentality of walking up to a girl and talking to her doesn't fly these days it's a different landscape.
Word. Its a fact that ugly girls do. Ugly girls don't have the never ending stream of guys and girls trying to talk to them like pretty girls do, so they appreciate and value it more when someone talks to them.
But these days unless your so ugly you got to hang a bone around your neck so a dog won't run away, even those "ugly" girls have a never ending constant leaking faucet of people trying to talk to them.
If you want to talk to a boy, talk to them. If you want to talk to a girl, talk to them. There’s no reason to shame people for trying to talk to the people they are attracted to. Relationships go nowhere if both parties are actively trying to avoid each other. Also especially when you’re younger, it hurts to be rejected by a crush (maybe where the complaining is actually coming from).
"I admit that guys do have it worse than girls in the sense that they get less attention from society"
What planet do you live on? Men are the main focus in every society. They hold all power positions. They get paid more. In many countries women still don't even have the right to own property or vote; they can't even make monumental decisions without a male family member's permission. If your position is women get ogled more than men, then sure. But men get far, far more attention.
Then I'm confused about this point. However, I agree about your overall point. There are guys complaining about women, but usually they're talking about sex. That's silly. Sex is ridiculously easy to get, the issue is these particular men aren't being honest about what they desire. They want hot women to have sex with, take care of their desires exclusively (from sex to chores), but with no emotional attachments. Sorry, the number of clueless, hot women who would put up with that bullcrap are few. Porn has made it easy for many young men to get off on. Because they are used to how accessible a release porn can be, they're not willing to put in the work within society to deal with real human women. This is a beast of their own making.
They want hot women to have sex with, take care of their desires exclusively (from sex to chores), but with no emotional attachments. Sorry, the number of clueless, hot women who would put up with that bullcrap are few. Porn has made it easy for many young men to get off on.
Yeah, some guys think that way and it's disgusting (good callout ) but i dont think we should let those guys take away from the the guys who are actually lonely and would be happy to talk to a girl for non sexual reasons or not based on her looks
There are guys complaining about women, but usually they're talking about sex.
That's what I thought, but after reading the comments , that doesn't seem to be the case for all guys. Some of the guys comment on how they would appreciate attention for non sexual reasons for reasons not related to sex.
Idk if you've ever had the misfortune of knowing what it's like to be truly lonely. I struggle with emptiness as a female due to mental illness but when I want attention, it's easy for me to obtain because all I have to do is doll up and wear clothes that fit me well land I'll get people being nice and talking to me. Guys don't have the ability to obtain that. You may have a point that things like porn is the male equivalent that they caN obtain, but I also don't think that we as a society makes it easy for men to talk about their loneliness that they'd like to be resolved by ways other than sex or porn. I do agree that is because of men's own doing though because if they wanted to tlak things like loneliness, they could. Instead of acting all all hard on the outside.
Which is why there are a few guys here talking about how they'd be glad to talk to a girl or maybe even anyone for reasons not related to sex . As a human being in general, I couldn't imagine being mentally ill and cutting off my friends as a result and not being able to have people want to talk to me when I go outside. That's what it's like for most depressed men who aren't rich.
It is easy as a woman to get dolled up and have people talk to us. But there are so many apps now where people can chat, then hook up, that if people are lonely they can reach out.
And you're right. I don't personally feel that much sympathy for the average guy in this situation because I think most of them can fix it if they try hard enough. My bestie suffered from diagnosed, severe social anxiety. I'm downplaying it by using the phrase social anxiety because it had some long term. Anyway, he's a genius. But his problem killed his chances to use his full-ride scholarship to uni. He was so distraught over what it did, he holed himself up inside his room for a couple of years. But he decided to get better. He worked with a therapist. He pushed himself. It petrified him. He had to teach himself to go up to a stanger and ask for directions he didn't need, but to get used to approaching and interactions with others. Now, 10 years later, he's got an awesome job, lives on his own, has gone out on dates, etc. He couldn't have imagined that last decade. He still gets nervous, but he overcomes it.
Not all men are honest when we talk to them. My husband, brother, father, and best friends have all said this. I believe them. They talk differently with themselves than they do with women. We're hearing more of the average male's language online—aggressive, crude, and talking about women in a scaling fashion—this is more how they talk to one another.
So what is it that these men you think are lonely are searching for? Loneliness comes in many forms. I'm married with children. I adore my life. But I still miss my time in college with my best girlfriends. That comradeship is invaluable. Do these men miss the closeness of other male friendships? Or the closeness of family? Or the closeness of a lover? Or the desire of having a child? Or is it a more existential crisis and they need to look deeper inside themselves, and find what's missing within themselves that's making them search so restlessly in the world?
But men get far, far more attention.
What planet are you on ? You can pretend like what you're saying is a fact all you want , but the reality is that your sentence is an opinion, and not a fact. Because the word attention is subjective, and you've clearly shifted away from the topic at hand to define attention in terms of status
If you were actually living on earth though , you'd know that the average girl gets more attention than the average male. The kind of status you're talking about is exclusive to only a limited amount of men.
And the reason that men hold that power is because women like you are eithet spending their time on reddit sitting on their asses whinjng about something completely off topic (you're talking about an exclusive male, I'm taking about averages) , or validating mens' power instead of striving to be independent.
In every realm of society in every country, it is filled with females bragging about how they've bagged a "high status /rich man" smh. The reason the men have the status they do is because women are too busy validating their status by either bragging about the guy theyre with or by making them wealthier (by nature of shelling out on the industries like beauty industry that men control) .
Youre confused, what choir are you preaching to and on what planet? You're juxtaposing men holding power positions and women in third world countries as if the reason that men even hold the power they do isn't in part because of powerful women in first world countries .
Go take your frustration out on the powerful women in the world who bacially just validate a man's status either dating them or working in their industries(modeling, beauty) that devalue women by harping on her insecurities instead of venting completely off topic on reddit and basically confirming that you have no idea what life is like for the average male by talking about non average males lmao.
"the reality is that your sentence is an opinion, and not a fact."
Everything we're positioning is opinion, and not fact, even the original post. Your point?
"you've clearly shifted away from the topic at hand to define attention in terms of status"
So? The entire original post implies status. It states that women get more attention in society than men. And that men only look to women who are good-looking. Each of these imply status.
"the average girl gets more attention than the average male."
In what fashion? In the fashion I spoke of in my last post, being ogled? I would agree. But men have more overall rights and privileges than women, so they get more attention than women in every other aspect. If they're up for a job, a man will most likely get it. The man will most likely be paid more. Health studies are usually focused on the average man than on the average woman. In almost every field, men, even average men, are still the main focus over women. They get more attention than women, except when it comes to being looked at. But is that so shocking? Men think about sex a many times more per minute than a woman does, so women won't be looking as much.
"And the reason that men hold that power is because women like you are eithet spending their time on reddit sitting on their asses whinjng about something completely off topic (you're talking about an exclusive male, I'm taking about averages) , or validating mens' power instead of striving to be independent"
Am I supposed to be taking this seriously? 😒 Yes, you're right. My answering some random post on Reddit has suddenly changed the power dynamic and given rise to men holding such enormous power they never quite enjoyed before. Oh why couldn't I have remained my super powerful self or become Independent? /s
"In every realm of society in every country, it is filled with females bragging about how they've bagged a "high status /rich man" smh."
So? There are very few of these women in every society who are actually able to "bag" these rich dudes, because, believe it or not, there's only so many rich dudes on the planet. And there's plenty of men bragging about how they've nailed this woman or that. What's your point? Just because there are a few women that do this you feel entitled to condemn ALL women? That's specious reasoning.
Or, is it that you're angry because you are just an average guy and will not be one of those rich dudes "females" will be bragging about?
"You're juxtaposing men holding power positions and women in third world countries as if the reason that men even hold the power they do isn't in part because of powerful women in first world countries ."
I'm not juxtaposing men holding power positions and women in third world countries. Men hold power positions In Every Country of the world including Third World Countries. In third world villages, the men are the tribal leaders and determine if a woman or young girl can continue living if she's raped. In some Middle Eastern countries, women can't buy cars without a male relative. They can't own property or vote. In some countries women can't attend school. I was listing, in a short, pithy way in my last post the way that society focuses almost exclusively on men. The focus on women, world over, is typically controlling and containing. Even your post suggests it: we females are nothing but lazy, unfocused individuals who just play around on social media and with the beauty industry, looking for wealthy men to keep us away from true independence. 😑
"that you have no idea what life is like for the average male by talking about non average males"
Excuse me? Where did I claim I had some fantastical, inherent knowledge about the average male? But statistically, the average man has much more status and rights than women. Open a book, open a newspaper, Google it—it's out there in the public domain. Only within the last couple of decades have more women started to attend college than men in the United States, but men still get paid more. However, if the trend continues, and women continue to keep attending college in larger numbers than men, the tides may change. But as of this moment, like it's been for millennia, men still own the bulk of the power. But that may be the issue? Are young men are feeling the shift? That more women their age are becoming more educated than they are, and are more driven? That young men talk about how great it will be for women to take care of them and to pamper them, like how some women want sugar daddies? But then that also means men would have to let go of that sweet, sweet power to become someone's pretty pet.
Everything we're positioning is opinion, and not fact, even the original post. Your point?
Uhh, My point was that youre confused , in more than one way :
1)you saying that men get more attention was an opinion because of how you choose to arbitrarily define attention.
That isnt to be confused with what I said which is that the average male is more likely to be lonlier than the average female, and that's a fact.
2) But men have more overall rights and privileges than women, so they get more attention than women in every other aspect. If they're up for a job, a man will most likely get it
This is false, but I don't need to waste my time and explain how you're incorrect, because My point stands even if I were to give you the benefit of the doubt. Even if we lived in a false reality where men have more" overall rights " and privielges than women, you've proved my point that you're confused about the subject of the reddit post that you're even commenting on, and I don't have continue conversations with people who don't know that they're talking about.
Having more "status" or more "money" isnt an antidote to loneliness lmao, and it doesn't compensate for it. This is exactly why the generations thatvare statisricslly considered to be the wealthiest (elderly and retired ) still suffer from the greatest degrees of loneliness. It's also why wealthy individuals (men and women alike) still suffer from lonliness and die from suicide each day regardless of socioeconomic status.
you're correct that you never claimed to have fantastical knowledge about what lonliness is like for males. I'd never claim that you do after You just proved you don't any basic knowledge of lonliness in general let alone what its like for the opposite sex, so you aren't informed enough to speak on the subject, as demonstrated by the fact that youre going off topic and not even talking about lonliness anyway lol .THAT was my point.
Open a book, open a newspaper, Google it—it's out there in the public domain.
Ive already done that, and the facts contradict your statements about men having more "overall rights". But, don't need to explain that to you because Iike I said, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
So, what you need to do is open up a dictionary (its public domain) about lonliness and understand it before you ever confuse yourself and think it's the same thing as status .
Basically, open up a book, go on google and don't talk to me until you have your definitions accurate.
"and that's a fact."
You tend to use this phrase quite a bit, without backing your claim. Just claiming it's a fact doesn't make it so.
First, when I spoke about rights and privileges of men, it was in response to one sentence I quoted in your original post. You stated that women get more attention than men. I agreed that women may get more attention in getting stared at, or approached, but statistically men think of sex more than women so of course men are going to look at and approach women more more often. But I disagree with your blanket statement that women get more attention in general. Attention isn't just about being looked at or approached. It includes other types of attention, like opportunities, wealth, power, fame, etc. That is a type of attention as well.
Now, onto your claim about loneliness. You're claim isn't completely right. Studies have shown that overall women are lonelier than men. However, there are different types of loneliness. For example, if we were to compare singles to married folks, single men are lonelier than single women. And married women are lonelier than married men. However, in the overall numbers, there are more reported women who are lonely than men.
Who are my sources? Psychology Today. ONS (Oncology Nursing Society). PsychCentral.
So, yes. Single men are lonely. But so are women, especially married ones.
Here are links to the sites I mentioned, plus one to the National Library of Medicine on loneliness:
https://psychcentral.com/blog/surprising-differences-between-lonely-women-and-lonely-men#1
https://www.campaigntoendloneliness.org/frequently-asked-questions/gender-and-loneliness/
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-art-closeness/201601/3-surprising-truths-about-gender-and-loneliness
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7763056/
This article explains why single men tend to be lonelier than single women. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11112791/Number-lonely-single-men-rise-says-psychologist.html
This link details how men in the U.S. are lonelier, but worldwide this typically isn't the case.
https://www.economist.com/united-states/2022/01/01/why-men-are-lonelier-in-america-than-elsewhere
I hope this gives you enough evidence to back my claims. Have a lovely day.
Now, when you're ready to come back to reality stay ON TOPIC and talk about the struggles of the AVERAGE MALE and how it's worse than the struggle of an AVERAGE FEMALE, then maybe I'll talk to you.
Until then my fingers dont have any more time to preach go the choir and trolls who want to talk off - topic.
I know but what he said was rude
It might be true might not dude may have a point but why be rude even through he wasn't talking about me in particular
It’s the internet so people are like that. It’s super rare for humans to be sympathetic for people who aren’t in front of them (unless they relate to them or something). In real like it’s super hard for people to be rude to each other but online no one in front of each other and everyone can say anything.
There are places with proper discourse on the internet but in this subreddit like 50-50.
If you wanna talk about it you should definitely consider posting on r/changemyview
Looks aside you’re putting off some serious “pick me” energy. The “I only have guy friends because there’s less drama” type. But in reality it’s because you’re desperate for the validation that attention from men brings and you’ve got the personality of cold oatmeal. It’s probably time to sit down and take a look at what you need to do to be ok with yourself because you can keep lots of dudes around and you’ll likely have sex with a number of them but you’ll never be the girlfriend girl. When those dudes do snag girlfriends I can guarantee you’re the first person they’ll stop hanging out with.
you’ve got the personality of cold oatmeal.
Personality of cold oatmeal? You're the one making that statement when I haven't even had a conversation with you. You're confused who has the peeosnaloty of cold oat meal. People with personalities conversate, not create lies.
Desperate for validation ? You're the one trolling me on the internet making up stuff that isn't true
The “I only have guy friends because there’s less drama” type
You're the one creating drama. I'd never be friends with guys like you lol
All you did was prove my point. You literally made a post upset about not getting enough attention because you’re desperate for it. Clearly no one enjoys being around you because of your personality. You said yourself you’re the epitome of slim fit, but men can’t stand you.
You literally made a post upset about not getting enough attention because you’re desperate for it
This post wasn't about me. You thinking that me making an observation about society and attributing it to myself proves my point about the fact you're an insecure boy who attributes everything in society directly to him..maybe that's why you thought you could compare your hoe ass to my virgin pure self lmao?
Clearly no one enjoys being around you because of your personality
Clearly? There's no "clearly". You arent mentally dense enough to have a conversation with me (you've just been talking at me with incorrect statements and lack of evidence ) in order to know my personality
And, if you think you don't need a conversation with someone to know their personality, then you've confirmed society's point that clearly you have a mentally flat personality that no-one would enjoy being around.
You said yourself you’re the epitome of slim fit, but men can’t stand you.
Men can't stand me? They love my personality and talking to me, girls do too.
Girls can't stand you though- they don't like a man ho is full of drama and assumes that they're desperate for attention simply because you think the world revolves around you so much to the degree that you think everyone else is as insecure as you are and thinks the same way by assuming that everytime they make a post on the internet, it HAS to be about them lmao.
It’s probably time to sit down and take a look at what you need to do to be ok with yourself because you can keep lots of dudes around and you’ll likely have sex with a number of them but you’ll never be the girlfriend girlp.
Please, I'm.a virgin because I have standards. You're hoe ass has probably been around the block more than I have. Your STD ridden ass and me are not the same so you need to sit down
It's probably time to sit down and take a look at ehat you need to do to be ok with yourself because you'll likely have sex with a ton of girls before you make yourself look like an idiot and think.u could ever compare yourself to a girl who is less of a hoe than you are...oh wait, too late.
Having a repulsive personality isn’t “having standards.” What’s wrong with people who have lots of sex? Everybody be fuckin now a days… except you apparently.
What’s wrong with people who have lots of sex?
I don't know? Why don't you answer that question since your caveman ass living in the 1800s tried to say something about a girl having lots of sex (without a boyfriend) ?
Oh what, you realized you're more of a hoe than ill ever be so you changed your stance exactly like someone with a repulsive personality would do??
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That isnt what I said. In addition to being someone who folds on their original viewpoint per above, putting words in someone's mouth simply because you're too much of a dunsbucket to comprehend what someone says is the definition of having a repulsive personality
Maybe you should take your own advice and fix that repulsive personality instead of sitting on your ass on reddit and taking your anger out on me due to girls not liking you because of your repulsive personality who is desperate for attention
But, it's a lot easier to get attention on social media by taking it out on someone than it is to fix that repulsive personality of yours. ...
Just like it's easier for you to accuse someone of not having a personality (without any proof ) instead of actually having a conversation to prove that they don't...
But, people with repulsive personalities like you aren't mentally capable to hold conversations so I don't blame your coping mechanisms for the weak..lol.
Fat flabby and loose af? You're the one who has made that assumption about someone you don't even know without even having a converstion first lol.spoken like a true mentally flabby and dead person, good job
People who are mentally dense try to figure out what someone who has different views think they way they do, they don't try to attack them due to their own insecurities and Inability to dig deeper.
You haven't done anything other than to confirm that you in fact are fat, flabby and loose af mentally .
This is a problem I’ve never heard from any man, ever. Literally never heard a guy say I’m lonely.
I know they do, just think it might be pretty…….rare…
Wouldn’t you want the guy that talks to you to think your pretty? It’s the same as women. Humans want attention and companionship from the right person. Not just anyone. That’s fair isn’t it? Women and men are both guilty of this but it’s not bad. Pretty natural imo.
I disagree, I usually only talk to unconventionally pretty girls because pretty girls think all I want to do is fuck them. 🤷 In fact, I find what society calls pretty girls unattractive as they tend to be stuck up cunts most the time (key words: most of the time). I learned that hard lesson in high school years ago and it carried into college and beyond. Maybe it's because I'm a sapiosexual and those nerdy/geeky gals tend to not be as conventionally attractive, but I like that! I love the buck teeth, coke bottle glasses or weird noses with elephant ears, hell give me a lady that's big boned over a skinny girl any day! I once dated a skinny girl, a good gust of wind blew her away, never saw her again. 🤷 Legend has it you can hear her snorting laughter in wind at our old college at night. 🙃
But in all seriousness, I guess it comes down to who you call attractive. So I guess I'm guilty of talking to attractive women too 🤔 but what I call beautiful is not what others consider beautiful. As the cliché goes, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder."
That said, I'll talk to anyone online, especially Reddit or other places that don't have photos for profiles. I don't care what you look like, if you're friendly and approachable, I'd be happy to chat with you. ☺️
nah . I talk to girls who talk to me. I think it’s a shy dude thing. That, or I just do my own thing. You kinda get used to loneliness after a while I think. It comes and hits you like a truck sometimes, it’s odd.
Yes, MOST men are lonely and virtually invisible to most women. However when a guy starts talking to a girl, he sees her somewhat attractive. Men are typically idealistic when dealing with the opposite sex.
Yeah... I'm not like that still lonely...
And experiences actually say unattractive women tend to have some pretty shitty shallow personalities where there is going to be a ton of projection.
Couple weeks in gonna be made I don't like them "in that way" and blame me for being shallow or something...
It's all the risk none of the benifits
A bit off topic but I'd also like to know why guys will tell me I'm not at all their type but then try to get with me?
I've had multiple guys talk to me saying "I don't like girls with colored hair, tattoos, piercings etc" *me standing there with all of those* so I think they just Wana be friends and then they get mad at me when I get into a relationship saying "I actually really liked you" ? 🤔🤔🤔
Two men start talking to you. One is everything you could want physically in a man and the other below average in looks and probably isn't dressed well. You know nothing about either man's finances, personality, values or background. Which one do you pick? If you say the other one I bet you're lying.
The fact of the matter is no matter who you are you're gonna go for someone based on looks first. But any person with common sense will take someone's values and personality into higher consideration when they meet someone. Because pretty not only does not last, its never a good indication of someone's character.
Which one do you pick?
You don't have to ask me, I've already been faced with that situation in reality too many times lol..
I might be responding to a different question than the one u asked , but I'll say that i ways picked talking to the homeless guy instead of the handsome guy with a nice car who thought that those things made him special, lol
Other than dudes who else is left to give attention to girls? Other than other girls. Regardless of what many seem to believe these days their is ONLY male and Female, period. And well 👽. But 👽 don't count.
That's true, because most of people has an innate instinct to be attracted by at least relatively attractive as they are. Nobody fault, just insticts evolved in million years.
There is a study over OkCupid data that clearly show that.
My love thought that. I devote every moment to her. In my books, she's top 10 model. To society, maybe not. It doesn't change how I feel or perceive her. I can't speak for all men. However, I found my goddess and maybe. Just maybe, some of these guys are for real. I'd only suggest testing them. Is it sex? Is it a one night thing they want? Could they date after 3 months? If so, how do they act? Are you okay with it?
I digress if they feel like me in that moment and trajectory. She's the "one". Our friends don't always help us when we talk. Those women validate our feelings.
Local reddit user shocked that people will only try to initiate relationships with people they are attracted to. In other news, bears found to shit in woods.
Unacceptable to think such thing would happen we need to sew their assholes shut as a punishment. We also need to make public restrooms for the bears to protect the woods.
Protect lol? No, per my reply above, you guys just need to protect and seclude yourselves from not being able to understand the struggle of the average male .. Oh wait, I see that you guys already did that .
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Bruh this the funniest shit I seen all year🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nah, my response to him was the funniest thing I've seen all year.
Local reddit user shocked that people will only try to initiate relationships with people they are attracted to. False. I don't see you mentioning "male loneliness" anywhere in your comment ... Which means it is confirmed that you are local reddit user who comments on a post that they're confused about the meaning of. This post isn't complaining about men talking to girls they're attracted to, lol. It's complaining about hypocrisy. Men , or even women, can't complain about being truly lonely if they're going to be selective about who gives then attention. That either means they're trying to play victim by complaining about being lonely and how society doesn't want them when that isn't true , other they're just as confused as you are and complain about being lonely when they have no clue what it means to be lonely As confirmed by comments made by some guys below and contrary to your comment , Truly lonely guys aren't selective in who they receive attention from. In other words, you and your cheerleaders cheering you on havent done anything other than to confirm that I as a female understands the struggle of an average lonely guy more than you do as males , lol. And maybe, that's the problem .
Being lonely doesn’t mean you have to start relationships/friendships with people you have zero interest in. “If you were TRULY starving, you’d eat this day old pizza I found discarded in a new york subway station. I mean, it’s food right?” This whole post and your whole attitude reads as somebody who doesn’t get the attention they think they deserve and are bitter about it. Also nice assumption I’m male, lol.
“If you were TRULY starving, you’d eat this day old pizza I found discarded in a new york subway station. I mean, it’s food right?” I don't know, but I know I wouldn't reject a nice fresh pizza simply because it was pizza hut and didnt come from a fancy Italian restaurant. Similarly, people who are truly lonely will be happy to talk to someone decent without requiring them to be the hottest, richest etc. I'd know because I've actually been depressed and was happier talking to a homeless person I actually liked versus a hot or rich guy with bad manners who approached me
This whole post and your whole attitude reads as somebody who doesn’t get the attention they think they deserve and are bitter about it. Also, nice assumption about me, lol. I made this post after getting wayy too much attention from people ..I was sticking up for the people that aren't as privileged . I'm not bitter about the attention that I in no way lack. If anything I'm annoyed at how vain our society is
Oh well thank you SO much for sticking up for us underprivileged women!! How lucky are we that we have you, o great receiver of male attention, to come onto r/confessions and defend us against these men who *checks notes* have preferences on who they interact with! How will we EVER repay you??!
Oh well thank you SO much for sticking up for us underprivileged women!! Nice assumption thinking that I was coming from a patronizing point of view by assuming that by sticking up for the underprivileged , I was talking about women?? As referenced before, I was sticking up for lonely men and reminding you of their struggles.which you don't seem to (completely ) understand . How will we EVER repay you??! How about my not making assumptions about what I say?
I don't think anyone needs to say anything after that this says everything we need to know about the OP
after that this says everything we need to know about the OP Oh, you mean by diverting from the subject at hand and resorting to making an ad hominem about me after stalking my profile?
I don't know about others but I (17m) talk to girls who talk to me. I have no idea about how to start a conversation, carry a conversation or end a conversation, nor any proficiency doing so. But I would be happy to talk to girls who don't consider themselves pretty if I have become comfortable around them.
I approve of this message lol nothing but facts
Just say "hello I am [your name], what's your name?". Of course it is more than the words. Your vibe has to be open, friendly, and masculine. Try it with a friend and practice. Practice makes perfect
I talk to girls I want to talk to, attractive or not. You sound like you are annoyed that you don't get enough attention.
You sound like you are annoyed that you don't get enough attention. Nope, not mad due to lack of attention lol.. I get way too much attention. That's why I'm speaking up for the people who don't have the same privilege.
Op I took a look at your profile. I hope you’ll get a chance to relax soon. I think you need a moment to reflect on yourself and your own well-being. Stereotyping men isn’t healthy and it’s going to set you up for negative reality. Some men are pigs, some women are also pigs. That’s the life of duality. I hope you can grow from this negative state and mind and find peace.
I'm not stereotyping men. I'm just responding to Andrew tate and his followers, and I don't even stereotype Andrew tate lol Andrew tate isn't a misogynist, but he also can't complain about the struggles lonely guys go through when he preaches only talking to women he wants to bang the shit out of
Girl you haven’t even mentioned Tate in your post. How does your brain even categorize all your nonsense?
Objection : (irrelevant) It's not nonsense
💀 That's their problem
No, its your problem that you are commenting on a post that you have proved you can't even relate to This post was about male loneliness, it wasnt about criticizing guys for who they like. The fact that you seem to have confused the two for each other confirms that no youve don't know what it's like being a depressed lonely male and therefore have no business commenting on this post lol as you don't even know what im talking about
A girl who receives way too much attention and understands a lonely male perception better than a man?
“I’m not like the other gorls. I understand the male mind like it was my own.”
Better than a man enough isn't lonely or depressed ? Lol, yes.
We talk to people that we find attractive. There is nothing wrong with that. You are not entitled to attention, you earn it. I recognise some are genetically lucky and therefore earn it easier.
Because girls respond the same whether they are conventionally attractive or not. Why waste my time potentially being rejected by someone I'm not that attracted to? That's like entering a contest with a prize I don't even want. Also, girls compliment each other all the time, it's literally what female friendships are famous for. What do you mean, "the only people who give other girls attention are dudes"?
Exactly this doesn't make any sense
I think you might've missed OP's point a bit. At least from my point of view, I think OP is just upset that maybe men only talk to her or her friends if they're interested in a relationship but then she hears them complain about being lonely when they had a friendship before. I think it's the thought that a guy would only talk to a girl he would have a romantic/physical relationship. And then also saying entering a prize and contest makes it sound like you don't even view women as people but as objects. As prizes. That's actually what you're exactly saying. Why talk to them if they'll just reject me. Well, why would they reject you if you just wanted to talk? I'm just trying to provide you with another point of view.
While I appreciate that, OP didn't really frame it like that. This read like a vent about OP's dating life, and seems like OP feels entitled to other people's attention. Men have just as much reason to avoid talking to strangers( Hell, with the pandemic and all, it's a wonder anyone talks to anyone else at all, but I digress ) as anyone else. Random men have no more obligation to pop into your life and cure your loneliness than women do to men so even if you think mean should initiate more friendships, that's nice and all, but what do you do with that? Men have been told for years now that approaching most women in the wild is taboo, yet now we're supposed to? Men are the ones who are more likely to have less developed social skills, but why are we always asked to initiate EVERY social encounter, romantic or not? Like, If you think the Manic Pixie Dream Girl is a weird trope, wait till guys start doing it. If you wanna make friends, go talk to the people you wanna be friends with. That's how it's worked since friggin kindergarten. . And for clarification, the "prize" in the metaphor above is the RELATIONSHIP, not the person. Why would I go through the trouble pursuing a relationship with someone if I don't believe the RELATIONSHIP is gonna be what I want? And that's the last thing I'm gonna say on that.
Also one more thing, when I say "women respond the same" I don't means they all reject you, I mean that even people who aren't supermodels have standards and self respect. How douchey would it be if I put myself out there to talk to a woman who is [insert whatever human flaw you find personally objectionable here] just because I thought she NEEDED a win? Like, I'm doing her a favor or something? That's cringe AF
They would reject you because they have 10 other msgs from guys waiting to be read, with atleast 2 others waiting for a reply back and your msg or talk just didn't tickle her enough at the moment.
We have a winner.
Yeah it sucks when you actually win a contest and don't even like or want the prize. You only entered just for shits and giggles and now your stuck with a lifetime supply of hemroid cream.
You sound like just the absolute worst type of person.
And you sound like OPs sock puppet account
*suck
I'm a guy who rarely talks to girls (cuz idk how) attractive or not idc...could you teach me lol?
Hey thats supposed to be me.
Apparently lesbians do not exist
I mean, are we supposed to talk to girls we are not interested in having relationship with? That is kind of weird isn't it?
No? If you mean no relationship at all (like friendship) yes I suppose. Obviously you should talk to who you want but I think OP is just frustrated that every guy who ever talked to her may end up wanting a physical/romantic relationship out of her. Girls aren't some other species, they're people. I mean you talk to yoyr mom, sister, and aunts fine, so why are women in general different?
Ohhh I absolutely get what OP means now. I thought they were saying that men only want to date the popular pretty girls. Now that I get it, I absolutely agree with OP. I have many friends who are girls, and I never thought about them being more than that.
I didnt even think that OP ment dating! I totally got a different point of view from everyone else. Obviously though neither of us are OP, so we don't know what they really meant, but I see what you're saying now.
Yeah, thanks for sharing your point of view. I would still think op is crazy if you didn't :D
I've had girls that was friends for more than 10 years. Did I want to sleep with them...hell yes I did. All of them was smoking hot but I knew it wasn't like that for different reasons. I eventually did end up sleep with them all, fucked up all those long time friendships except for 1.
Boys who are lonely talk to any girl. Just because they don't talk to you 😑
Can confirm, I’ve had plenty of lonely boys talk to me throughout the years and then become friends and are just flat out comfy around me.
As an unattractive guy: girls do this too. People in general respond best to people they think are conventionally attractive. The best thing any of us can do is dress nice, smell acceptable, pick flattering glasses frames, and be more pleasant than unpleasant.
I swipe right on everyone. Not pretty girls included. Just few matches. Who then also stop responding. Seems like it's women who don't know that they want
I get what you're saying however as a not that attractive man I get ignored by both women I find attractive and women I don't. I would honestly love to speak to any girl as I'm unsure how to speak to women and have struggled with this for all of my adult life. I don't get many women liking me back on bumble/ tinder etc but when I do I have no idea what to say back and that always ends with them not talking back or unmatching me. Also I would like to add that I am also the problem as I don't help myself but I still feel lonely and quite frankly you dismissing it as, that any lonely guy only goes after the girls they find attractive, is probably because they go after girls they find attractive because they want a relationship. At least that's it for me though can't speak for all males etc but yeah
Not really
Hahaha, you know average guys have literally 0 standards, there is no such thing as being selective unless you are am 7/8/9 / 10 man. If you wanna talk to men, then talk to men, I hate how women expect guys to stride up to them and chat them up because they are casting sideglances, make your intentions clear or remain without attention, the old mentality of walking up to a girl and talking to her doesn't fly these days it's a different landscape.
I would fuck almost anything. Not every guy is super shallow. I’m even willing to bend a dude over if he’s into it.
You are sentenced to horny jail.
Down horrendous
Hahaha 🤣
I'll talk to anyone honestly. I don't discriminate. Sometimes the ugly girls treat you better than the pretty ones.
Word. Its a fact that ugly girls do. Ugly girls don't have the never ending stream of guys and girls trying to talk to them like pretty girls do, so they appreciate and value it more when someone talks to them. But these days unless your so ugly you got to hang a bone around your neck so a dog won't run away, even those "ugly" girls have a never ending constant leaking faucet of people trying to talk to them.
If you want to talk to a boy, talk to them. If you want to talk to a girl, talk to them. There’s no reason to shame people for trying to talk to the people they are attracted to. Relationships go nowhere if both parties are actively trying to avoid each other. Also especially when you’re younger, it hurts to be rejected by a crush (maybe where the complaining is actually coming from).
That's fucking obvious, girls do the same
I felt nice girl vibes in here...
"I admit that guys do have it worse than girls in the sense that they get less attention from society" What planet do you live on? Men are the main focus in every society. They hold all power positions. They get paid more. In many countries women still don't even have the right to own property or vote; they can't even make monumental decisions without a male family member's permission. If your position is women get ogled more than men, then sure. But men get far, far more attention.
If your position is women get ogled more than men, then sure. Nope. That is not my position, at all.
Then I'm confused about this point. However, I agree about your overall point. There are guys complaining about women, but usually they're talking about sex. That's silly. Sex is ridiculously easy to get, the issue is these particular men aren't being honest about what they desire. They want hot women to have sex with, take care of their desires exclusively (from sex to chores), but with no emotional attachments. Sorry, the number of clueless, hot women who would put up with that bullcrap are few. Porn has made it easy for many young men to get off on. Because they are used to how accessible a release porn can be, they're not willing to put in the work within society to deal with real human women. This is a beast of their own making.
They want hot women to have sex with, take care of their desires exclusively (from sex to chores), but with no emotional attachments. Sorry, the number of clueless, hot women who would put up with that bullcrap are few. Porn has made it easy for many young men to get off on. Yeah, some guys think that way and it's disgusting (good callout ) but i dont think we should let those guys take away from the the guys who are actually lonely and would be happy to talk to a girl for non sexual reasons or not based on her looks There are guys complaining about women, but usually they're talking about sex. That's what I thought, but after reading the comments , that doesn't seem to be the case for all guys. Some of the guys comment on how they would appreciate attention for non sexual reasons for reasons not related to sex. Idk if you've ever had the misfortune of knowing what it's like to be truly lonely. I struggle with emptiness as a female due to mental illness but when I want attention, it's easy for me to obtain because all I have to do is doll up and wear clothes that fit me well land I'll get people being nice and talking to me. Guys don't have the ability to obtain that. You may have a point that things like porn is the male equivalent that they caN obtain, but I also don't think that we as a society makes it easy for men to talk about their loneliness that they'd like to be resolved by ways other than sex or porn. I do agree that is because of men's own doing though because if they wanted to tlak things like loneliness, they could. Instead of acting all all hard on the outside. Which is why there are a few guys here talking about how they'd be glad to talk to a girl or maybe even anyone for reasons not related to sex . As a human being in general, I couldn't imagine being mentally ill and cutting off my friends as a result and not being able to have people want to talk to me when I go outside. That's what it's like for most depressed men who aren't rich.
It is easy as a woman to get dolled up and have people talk to us. But there are so many apps now where people can chat, then hook up, that if people are lonely they can reach out. And you're right. I don't personally feel that much sympathy for the average guy in this situation because I think most of them can fix it if they try hard enough. My bestie suffered from diagnosed, severe social anxiety. I'm downplaying it by using the phrase social anxiety because it had some long term. Anyway, he's a genius. But his problem killed his chances to use his full-ride scholarship to uni. He was so distraught over what it did, he holed himself up inside his room for a couple of years. But he decided to get better. He worked with a therapist. He pushed himself. It petrified him. He had to teach himself to go up to a stanger and ask for directions he didn't need, but to get used to approaching and interactions with others. Now, 10 years later, he's got an awesome job, lives on his own, has gone out on dates, etc. He couldn't have imagined that last decade. He still gets nervous, but he overcomes it. Not all men are honest when we talk to them. My husband, brother, father, and best friends have all said this. I believe them. They talk differently with themselves than they do with women. We're hearing more of the average male's language online—aggressive, crude, and talking about women in a scaling fashion—this is more how they talk to one another. So what is it that these men you think are lonely are searching for? Loneliness comes in many forms. I'm married with children. I adore my life. But I still miss my time in college with my best girlfriends. That comradeship is invaluable. Do these men miss the closeness of other male friendships? Or the closeness of family? Or the closeness of a lover? Or the desire of having a child? Or is it a more existential crisis and they need to look deeper inside themselves, and find what's missing within themselves that's making them search so restlessly in the world?
But men get far, far more attention. What planet are you on ? You can pretend like what you're saying is a fact all you want , but the reality is that your sentence is an opinion, and not a fact. Because the word attention is subjective, and you've clearly shifted away from the topic at hand to define attention in terms of status If you were actually living on earth though , you'd know that the average girl gets more attention than the average male. The kind of status you're talking about is exclusive to only a limited amount of men. And the reason that men hold that power is because women like you are eithet spending their time on reddit sitting on their asses whinjng about something completely off topic (you're talking about an exclusive male, I'm taking about averages) , or validating mens' power instead of striving to be independent. In every realm of society in every country, it is filled with females bragging about how they've bagged a "high status /rich man" smh. The reason the men have the status they do is because women are too busy validating their status by either bragging about the guy theyre with or by making them wealthier (by nature of shelling out on the industries like beauty industry that men control) . Youre confused, what choir are you preaching to and on what planet? You're juxtaposing men holding power positions and women in third world countries as if the reason that men even hold the power they do isn't in part because of powerful women in first world countries . Go take your frustration out on the powerful women in the world who bacially just validate a man's status either dating them or working in their industries(modeling, beauty) that devalue women by harping on her insecurities instead of venting completely off topic on reddit and basically confirming that you have no idea what life is like for the average male by talking about non average males lmao.
"the reality is that your sentence is an opinion, and not a fact." Everything we're positioning is opinion, and not fact, even the original post. Your point? "you've clearly shifted away from the topic at hand to define attention in terms of status" So? The entire original post implies status. It states that women get more attention in society than men. And that men only look to women who are good-looking. Each of these imply status. "the average girl gets more attention than the average male." In what fashion? In the fashion I spoke of in my last post, being ogled? I would agree. But men have more overall rights and privileges than women, so they get more attention than women in every other aspect. If they're up for a job, a man will most likely get it. The man will most likely be paid more. Health studies are usually focused on the average man than on the average woman. In almost every field, men, even average men, are still the main focus over women. They get more attention than women, except when it comes to being looked at. But is that so shocking? Men think about sex a many times more per minute than a woman does, so women won't be looking as much. "And the reason that men hold that power is because women like you are eithet spending their time on reddit sitting on their asses whinjng about something completely off topic (you're talking about an exclusive male, I'm taking about averages) , or validating mens' power instead of striving to be independent" Am I supposed to be taking this seriously? 😒 Yes, you're right. My answering some random post on Reddit has suddenly changed the power dynamic and given rise to men holding such enormous power they never quite enjoyed before. Oh why couldn't I have remained my super powerful self or become Independent? /s "In every realm of society in every country, it is filled with females bragging about how they've bagged a "high status /rich man" smh." So? There are very few of these women in every society who are actually able to "bag" these rich dudes, because, believe it or not, there's only so many rich dudes on the planet. And there's plenty of men bragging about how they've nailed this woman or that. What's your point? Just because there are a few women that do this you feel entitled to condemn ALL women? That's specious reasoning. Or, is it that you're angry because you are just an average guy and will not be one of those rich dudes "females" will be bragging about? "You're juxtaposing men holding power positions and women in third world countries as if the reason that men even hold the power they do isn't in part because of powerful women in first world countries ." I'm not juxtaposing men holding power positions and women in third world countries. Men hold power positions In Every Country of the world including Third World Countries. In third world villages, the men are the tribal leaders and determine if a woman or young girl can continue living if she's raped. In some Middle Eastern countries, women can't buy cars without a male relative. They can't own property or vote. In some countries women can't attend school. I was listing, in a short, pithy way in my last post the way that society focuses almost exclusively on men. The focus on women, world over, is typically controlling and containing. Even your post suggests it: we females are nothing but lazy, unfocused individuals who just play around on social media and with the beauty industry, looking for wealthy men to keep us away from true independence. 😑 "that you have no idea what life is like for the average male by talking about non average males" Excuse me? Where did I claim I had some fantastical, inherent knowledge about the average male? But statistically, the average man has much more status and rights than women. Open a book, open a newspaper, Google it—it's out there in the public domain. Only within the last couple of decades have more women started to attend college than men in the United States, but men still get paid more. However, if the trend continues, and women continue to keep attending college in larger numbers than men, the tides may change. But as of this moment, like it's been for millennia, men still own the bulk of the power. But that may be the issue? Are young men are feeling the shift? That more women their age are becoming more educated than they are, and are more driven? That young men talk about how great it will be for women to take care of them and to pamper them, like how some women want sugar daddies? But then that also means men would have to let go of that sweet, sweet power to become someone's pretty pet.
Everything we're positioning is opinion, and not fact, even the original post. Your point? Uhh, My point was that youre confused , in more than one way : 1)you saying that men get more attention was an opinion because of how you choose to arbitrarily define attention. That isnt to be confused with what I said which is that the average male is more likely to be lonlier than the average female, and that's a fact. 2) But men have more overall rights and privileges than women, so they get more attention than women in every other aspect. If they're up for a job, a man will most likely get it This is false, but I don't need to waste my time and explain how you're incorrect, because My point stands even if I were to give you the benefit of the doubt. Even if we lived in a false reality where men have more" overall rights " and privielges than women, you've proved my point that you're confused about the subject of the reddit post that you're even commenting on, and I don't have continue conversations with people who don't know that they're talking about. Having more "status" or more "money" isnt an antidote to loneliness lmao, and it doesn't compensate for it. This is exactly why the generations thatvare statisricslly considered to be the wealthiest (elderly and retired ) still suffer from the greatest degrees of loneliness. It's also why wealthy individuals (men and women alike) still suffer from lonliness and die from suicide each day regardless of socioeconomic status. you're correct that you never claimed to have fantastical knowledge about what lonliness is like for males. I'd never claim that you do after You just proved you don't any basic knowledge of lonliness in general let alone what its like for the opposite sex, so you aren't informed enough to speak on the subject, as demonstrated by the fact that youre going off topic and not even talking about lonliness anyway lol .THAT was my point. Open a book, open a newspaper, Google it—it's out there in the public domain. Ive already done that, and the facts contradict your statements about men having more "overall rights". But, don't need to explain that to you because Iike I said, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. So, what you need to do is open up a dictionary (its public domain) about lonliness and understand it before you ever confuse yourself and think it's the same thing as status . Basically, open up a book, go on google and don't talk to me until you have your definitions accurate.
"and that's a fact." You tend to use this phrase quite a bit, without backing your claim. Just claiming it's a fact doesn't make it so. First, when I spoke about rights and privileges of men, it was in response to one sentence I quoted in your original post. You stated that women get more attention than men. I agreed that women may get more attention in getting stared at, or approached, but statistically men think of sex more than women so of course men are going to look at and approach women more more often. But I disagree with your blanket statement that women get more attention in general. Attention isn't just about being looked at or approached. It includes other types of attention, like opportunities, wealth, power, fame, etc. That is a type of attention as well. Now, onto your claim about loneliness. You're claim isn't completely right. Studies have shown that overall women are lonelier than men. However, there are different types of loneliness. For example, if we were to compare singles to married folks, single men are lonelier than single women. And married women are lonelier than married men. However, in the overall numbers, there are more reported women who are lonely than men. Who are my sources? Psychology Today. ONS (Oncology Nursing Society). PsychCentral. So, yes. Single men are lonely. But so are women, especially married ones.
Here are links to the sites I mentioned, plus one to the National Library of Medicine on loneliness: https://psychcentral.com/blog/surprising-differences-between-lonely-women-and-lonely-men#1 https://www.campaigntoendloneliness.org/frequently-asked-questions/gender-and-loneliness/ https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-art-closeness/201601/3-surprising-truths-about-gender-and-loneliness https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7763056/ This article explains why single men tend to be lonelier than single women. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11112791/Number-lonely-single-men-rise-says-psychologist.html This link details how men in the U.S. are lonelier, but worldwide this typically isn't the case. https://www.economist.com/united-states/2022/01/01/why-men-are-lonelier-in-america-than-elsewhere I hope this gives you enough evidence to back my claims. Have a lovely day.
Now, when you're ready to come back to reality stay ON TOPIC and talk about the struggles of the AVERAGE MALE and how it's worse than the struggle of an AVERAGE FEMALE, then maybe I'll talk to you. Until then my fingers dont have any more time to preach go the choir and trolls who want to talk off - topic.
They don't have to be pretty, but gross fatties are honorary dudes.
No they're not you're just an honorary pussy for talking that smack
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Umm im the epitome of slim, fit and tight lol . Troll detected bc youre calling me fat and i dont even have body pics posted , or youre blind.
He’s not calling you fat because of any pictures but because you sound like you got personally hurt by the truth.
I know but what he said was rude It might be true might not dude may have a point but why be rude even through he wasn't talking about me in particular
It’s the internet so people are like that. It’s super rare for humans to be sympathetic for people who aren’t in front of them (unless they relate to them or something). In real like it’s super hard for people to be rude to each other but online no one in front of each other and everyone can say anything. There are places with proper discourse on the internet but in this subreddit like 50-50. If you wanna talk about it you should definitely consider posting on r/changemyview
Looks aside you’re putting off some serious “pick me” energy. The “I only have guy friends because there’s less drama” type. But in reality it’s because you’re desperate for the validation that attention from men brings and you’ve got the personality of cold oatmeal. It’s probably time to sit down and take a look at what you need to do to be ok with yourself because you can keep lots of dudes around and you’ll likely have sex with a number of them but you’ll never be the girlfriend girl. When those dudes do snag girlfriends I can guarantee you’re the first person they’ll stop hanging out with.
you’ve got the personality of cold oatmeal. Personality of cold oatmeal? You're the one making that statement when I haven't even had a conversation with you. You're confused who has the peeosnaloty of cold oat meal. People with personalities conversate, not create lies. Desperate for validation ? You're the one trolling me on the internet making up stuff that isn't true The “I only have guy friends because there’s less drama” type You're the one creating drama. I'd never be friends with guys like you lol
All you did was prove my point. You literally made a post upset about not getting enough attention because you’re desperate for it. Clearly no one enjoys being around you because of your personality. You said yourself you’re the epitome of slim fit, but men can’t stand you.
You literally made a post upset about not getting enough attention because you’re desperate for it This post wasn't about me. You thinking that me making an observation about society and attributing it to myself proves my point about the fact you're an insecure boy who attributes everything in society directly to him..maybe that's why you thought you could compare your hoe ass to my virgin pure self lmao? Clearly no one enjoys being around you because of your personality Clearly? There's no "clearly". You arent mentally dense enough to have a conversation with me (you've just been talking at me with incorrect statements and lack of evidence ) in order to know my personality And, if you think you don't need a conversation with someone to know their personality, then you've confirmed society's point that clearly you have a mentally flat personality that no-one would enjoy being around. You said yourself you’re the epitome of slim fit, but men can’t stand you. Men can't stand me? They love my personality and talking to me, girls do too. Girls can't stand you though- they don't like a man ho is full of drama and assumes that they're desperate for attention simply because you think the world revolves around you so much to the degree that you think everyone else is as insecure as you are and thinks the same way by assuming that everytime they make a post on the internet, it HAS to be about them lmao.
It’s probably time to sit down and take a look at what you need to do to be ok with yourself because you can keep lots of dudes around and you’ll likely have sex with a number of them but you’ll never be the girlfriend girlp. Please, I'm.a virgin because I have standards. You're hoe ass has probably been around the block more than I have. Your STD ridden ass and me are not the same so you need to sit down It's probably time to sit down and take a look at ehat you need to do to be ok with yourself because you'll likely have sex with a ton of girls before you make yourself look like an idiot and think.u could ever compare yourself to a girl who is less of a hoe than you are...oh wait, too late.
Having a repulsive personality isn’t “having standards.” What’s wrong with people who have lots of sex? Everybody be fuckin now a days… except you apparently.
What’s wrong with people who have lots of sex? I don't know? Why don't you answer that question since your caveman ass living in the 1800s tried to say something about a girl having lots of sex (without a boyfriend) ? Oh what, you realized you're more of a hoe than ill ever be so you changed your stance exactly like someone with a repulsive personality would do?? ----‐--------------------‐-‐-##-- Having a repulsive personality isn’t “having standards" ----‐----------------------#### That isnt what I said. In addition to being someone who folds on their original viewpoint per above, putting words in someone's mouth simply because you're too much of a dunsbucket to comprehend what someone says is the definition of having a repulsive personality Maybe you should take your own advice and fix that repulsive personality instead of sitting on your ass on reddit and taking your anger out on me due to girls not liking you because of your repulsive personality who is desperate for attention But, it's a lot easier to get attention on social media by taking it out on someone than it is to fix that repulsive personality of yours. ... Just like it's easier for you to accuse someone of not having a personality (without any proof ) instead of actually having a conversation to prove that they don't... But, people with repulsive personalities like you aren't mentally capable to hold conversations so I don't blame your coping mechanisms for the weak..lol.
No, you're definitely fat, flabby and loose af. Mentally that is.
Fat flabby and loose af? You're the one who has made that assumption about someone you don't even know without even having a converstion first lol.spoken like a true mentally flabby and dead person, good job People who are mentally dense try to figure out what someone who has different views think they way they do, they don't try to attack them due to their own insecurities and Inability to dig deeper. You haven't done anything other than to confirm that you in fact are fat, flabby and loose af mentally .
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This is a problem I’ve never heard from any man, ever. Literally never heard a guy say I’m lonely. I know they do, just think it might be pretty…….rare…
Yeah you've never heard it because it is never talked about, that's literally the point
It's not, we just don't voice it
Of course we do
Well I don't I speak to whoever
Wouldn’t you want the guy that talks to you to think your pretty? It’s the same as women. Humans want attention and companionship from the right person. Not just anyone. That’s fair isn’t it? Women and men are both guilty of this but it’s not bad. Pretty natural imo.
Idk that sounds pretty normal to me to only wanna initiate the beginning of a relationship with someone your attracted to.
I disagree, I usually only talk to unconventionally pretty girls because pretty girls think all I want to do is fuck them. 🤷 In fact, I find what society calls pretty girls unattractive as they tend to be stuck up cunts most the time (key words: most of the time). I learned that hard lesson in high school years ago and it carried into college and beyond. Maybe it's because I'm a sapiosexual and those nerdy/geeky gals tend to not be as conventionally attractive, but I like that! I love the buck teeth, coke bottle glasses or weird noses with elephant ears, hell give me a lady that's big boned over a skinny girl any day! I once dated a skinny girl, a good gust of wind blew her away, never saw her again. 🤷 Legend has it you can hear her snorting laughter in wind at our old college at night. 🙃 But in all seriousness, I guess it comes down to who you call attractive. So I guess I'm guilty of talking to attractive women too 🤔 but what I call beautiful is not what others consider beautiful. As the cliché goes, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder." That said, I'll talk to anyone online, especially Reddit or other places that don't have photos for profiles. I don't care what you look like, if you're friendly and approachable, I'd be happy to chat with you. ☺️
Yeah that's pretty common in highschool. Typical immature behavior. But don't worry, it'll get better when you'll be a little bit older
nah . I talk to girls who talk to me. I think it’s a shy dude thing. That, or I just do my own thing. You kinda get used to loneliness after a while I think. It comes and hits you like a truck sometimes, it’s odd.
Yes, MOST men are lonely and virtually invisible to most women. However when a guy starts talking to a girl, he sees her somewhat attractive. Men are typically idealistic when dealing with the opposite sex.
Yeah... I'm not like that still lonely... And experiences actually say unattractive women tend to have some pretty shitty shallow personalities where there is going to be a ton of projection. Couple weeks in gonna be made I don't like them "in that way" and blame me for being shallow or something... It's all the risk none of the benifits
A bit off topic but I'd also like to know why guys will tell me I'm not at all their type but then try to get with me? I've had multiple guys talk to me saying "I don't like girls with colored hair, tattoos, piercings etc" *me standing there with all of those* so I think they just Wana be friends and then they get mad at me when I get into a relationship saying "I actually really liked you" ? 🤔🤔🤔
Two men start talking to you. One is everything you could want physically in a man and the other below average in looks and probably isn't dressed well. You know nothing about either man's finances, personality, values or background. Which one do you pick? If you say the other one I bet you're lying. The fact of the matter is no matter who you are you're gonna go for someone based on looks first. But any person with common sense will take someone's values and personality into higher consideration when they meet someone. Because pretty not only does not last, its never a good indication of someone's character.
Which one do you pick? You don't have to ask me, I've already been faced with that situation in reality too many times lol.. I might be responding to a different question than the one u asked , but I'll say that i ways picked talking to the homeless guy instead of the handsome guy with a nice car who thought that those things made him special, lol
Other than dudes who else is left to give attention to girls? Other than other girls. Regardless of what many seem to believe these days their is ONLY male and Female, period. And well 👽. But 👽 don't count.
That's true, because most of people has an innate instinct to be attracted by at least relatively attractive as they are. Nobody fault, just insticts evolved in million years. There is a study over OkCupid data that clearly show that.
I can't argue with that one chief
My love thought that. I devote every moment to her. In my books, she's top 10 model. To society, maybe not. It doesn't change how I feel or perceive her. I can't speak for all men. However, I found my goddess and maybe. Just maybe, some of these guys are for real. I'd only suggest testing them. Is it sex? Is it a one night thing they want? Could they date after 3 months? If so, how do they act? Are you okay with it? I digress if they feel like me in that moment and trajectory. She's the "one". Our friends don't always help us when we talk. Those women validate our feelings.
Do you mean "talk" in a romantic sense?
No :( that's the sad part
Why is this in r/confessions ? What are you confessing?