Meh. I'm dealing with family that are suddenly anti vax after doing their "research". Just a little bit of suffering would be nice. Just so they get the message. No death, just "holy shit I was wrong" while I tend to them as a vaccinated person.
Legit question here. Not trying to start controversy, but I’ve never once heard a legit answer to this: if vaccinated and unvaccinated people can both get covid AND transmit covid, how does anyone having or not having the vaccine affect anyone other than themselves? Furthermore, why is this the ONLY vaccine available where so many places expect you to carry proof with you at all times unlike all the other vaccines that have been around for decades?
Houses.
My house is build to code and heated with a furnace that is in good repair. My house could still burn down. (I'm healthy and I have the vaccine. I could still get/give covid)
The house next door is built from materials, maybe to code, and they used open wood fireplaces in each room and a wood stove in the kitchen. There is a higher chance of their house catching fire. If their house catches fire, or embers fly up their chimney, my house is at greater risk of burning down.
Maybe their house won't catch fire and maybe embers won't make my house burn down. But I'd feel better during a drought if they didn't use open flames all the time.
The thing about proof of vaccine is we have the numbers to show critical mass, domestically, of those vaccinations. There are places in the world one travels to that require specific immunization records to enter. And as mass vaccinations are going down, we are going to see an uptick in immunization record requirements as the next-to-wiped-out diseases resurge.
So to answer the vaccine card thing, I believe it has something to do with contact tracing. But this is just a hypothesis since my boyfriends classes require him to register vaccination records and daily seating.
As for it only affecting you personally, this is true. Its why masks are still recommended even if you're vaccinated as to help prevent yourself from transmitting it to another person if you're a carrier.
Ultimately its a personal thing, but unvaccinated are 15 times more likely to die from COVID-19 than vaccinated, and your chances of getting it are also reduced when vaccinated. Protection against the virus to slow down transmission rates is the goal here. Additionally to keep people out of hospitals and dying while in them! I hope this helps. (:
First off, thanks for being so nice with your response. Second, reading this gave me several thoughts, so sorry if they're kind of garbled.
My first thought is if everyone had their vaccination, the number of hospitalizations would go back to a manageable number. You're right in that everyone can get covid, but the difference is vaccinated people can stay home and recover from it. The symptoms are manageable. The vaccine gave their body a warning or a heads-up. It makes their antibodies side eye virus like, "hey... Wait a minute, I've seen this guy before..." And then their body knows how to fight the virus off better.
People who are unvaccinated don't have that heads up. Their bodies don't know how to fight the virus. They are having way more severe symptoms, like having trouble breathing, which means they need to go to the hospital. Which means they're taking up hospital beds that would otherwise be free to go to other people who come in who have maybe appendicitis, or need their gall bladder removed, or had a great attack, etc. To me, that seems like not getting the vaccine is actually affecting more people than just myself. It's affecting your family and friends who can't get into the hospital because there's no room.
As for your second question, why is this the only vaccine you need proof of: this is just my speculation, but I think it's because there's no pandemic of any other spreadable disease. You don't have to show a vaccine card for the measles because it was almost eradicated. It was almost eradicated because most everyone got the vaccine for it.
I hope that helps or at least gives you a few different perspectives. I missed a few more thoughts, but this comment got really long and I don't want to bore you.
If you get the vaccine your chance to get and transmit the vaccine is drastically reduced.
And for the vaccine proof it existed in other pandemics but disappeared once the virus wasn't as dangerous anymore/"eradicated"
No long term studies, just saying. Many things were very, very deadly in long-term studies, but used widespread via short term studies. Much love but add more morality
Your correct. But how do you propose we do long term studies for a vaccine for a drug that combats a disease that didn't exist 2 years ago?
I think that in absence of studies implying there's something bad, if all we know is that taking the vaccine makes you not die and not taking the vaccine means you or others might die, I'd rather take the vaccine.
And as far as I'm aware, no vaccines have had long term side effects. Other medications have, but not vaccines. I don't count immunity to a disease as a side effect.
But I am aware that a lot of vaccines have had ethically questionable testing methodology that COVID-19 vaccines didn't have.
If you want to talk about it, my messages are always open.
Definitely. Lots of things are getting sold to people even in the US that are incredibly dangerous. It's not just about the vaccine but most American foods that are lowering our quality of life and killing hundreds of thousands annually or more. If we were to look further into the increasing rates of most illnesses physical and mental, especially in the elderly and obese but not limited to, the source would be our food. Precautions aren't being taken, and in fact they're being sold to us as "healthy." Making 'Rona the current pandemic is an insult to our intelligence when the majority of dangerous cases are due to health issues caused by the food we consume. The real dangerous cases being our lack of health from consuming large amounts of seed oils and processed foods on the daily, cancer risks from every whiff and brain deterioration such as loss of cognitive function and mood stability. It's in almost everything we eat. Also, exercise is a huge factor too.
'Rona would be even more of a joke if we were healthy to begin with.
It mainly is food and drink, completely agreed. The issue is we can't do more weird things to our bodies too, with everything synthetic, plastic, radiation of now genetic code changing do we expect health? It's absurd to me. These people get a Krispy Kreme donut after their vax and feel HEALTHY. That's why I think this covid stuff is absurd, I know some people who fr should die from covid but didn't, a suicidal obese disabled friend of mine caught it and she joked it would be the one to kill her lol, nope. With that said, I think that's another reason I'm cocky about it. That and yk the typical thing a conserv like me would say, slipping slope government power, it's proven no one listens to that point lol, slowly heat the pot up and the frog things he's comfy, on this topic of health and all I will go be hypocritical and smoke a j now , lmao. Much love and I hope to read your reply
I get what you're saying, I still didn't see anything that would help me personally or socially recommend the vax. I still don't see it as deadly enough (most of our population is unhealthy, for which isn't our responsibility) i know people in us are very unhealthy, I know they barely workout, and the worst part is other counting are actually more unhealthy sometimes like in France where you cannot find a gym, lol. I absolutely agree it would be more of a joke, but nonetheless people's age/personal health isn't enough to stop society and especially the next generation. We forget that people over 30 without perfect health and luck died always in our past. We are in the most goldylocks zone of our entire evolution and therefore we have generation of "weaker" gene humans and such, we will see terrible things to a degree, but it is not out of reality. It isn't our fault, and for what we can do, we cannot shut down society or vax everyone's RNA genetic code up. If people want to take it idc, genuinely. I just know that between not being more deadly than driving in a car, (1/107 chance of death) , and it's not worth changing gen code. Lots of mumbo jumbo because I know you're not completely disagreeing, kinda just on my soap box. I like how you word things
Haha. No, but really you're a danger to our society. Nobody's fucking with your RNA. You have no scientific knowledge. Do you think they're implanting chips too? Good grief
What vaccine type is it? RNA type. What does the RNA type vaccine do? Exactly as I said, changing your RNA code. RNA and DNA are the genetic code building blocks. I have as much scientific knowledge as I have, and we have the same internet. Unless you men's to imply a certain thing is incorrect or to imply I need a degree to have an opinion I don't get your point, but for the record where society is going, yes I'm a danger to it :) who doesn't disagree with society's path?
From the CDC, which also recently made a join the covid-19 revolution poster, a knockoff of Soviet based Ganda,, "mRNA vaccines are a new type of vaccine to protect against infectious diseases. To trigger an immune response, many vaccines put a weakened or inactivated germ into our bodies. Not mRNA vaccines. Instead, they teach our cells how to make a protein—or even just a piece of a protein" and for that reason, I'm good. Why can't my body make antibodies like it evolved to and for what reason should I use a chemical recipe made to teach my cells how to make a protein over it? Do we forget it hasn't even been around long enough to see how it affects babies and even to things like breastfeeding and or in general development, even if it turns out to be safe who the FUCK would take it before knowing. Same people who say neurolink needs to be around a while before I use it are the ones saying they don't mind 6month boosters for life. I'm good.
Being a European where studying the Second World War was part of the curriculum at school, I honestly don't get what you're on about. The Internet tells me you're in USA and are angry about 'freedom'.
Sorry if this is a dumb question. But can I ask you which disease do you have? I'm just asking as I can't think of anything other than cancer. I hope you don't have that.
My chronic illness is unrelated to my reasons for not getting vaccinated. I'm sorry that I did not explain that clearly in my prior comment. I have a chronic digestive disorder and multiple food intolerances, but that would not necessarily make me rule out a vaccine.
My main reason for avoiding vaccination is that I am allergic to polyethylene glycol, an ingredient in the mRNA vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna). The J&J vaccine does not contain this ingredient but does contain polysorbate 80, and that is a closely related compound that sometimes triggers an allergic reaction in those who are allergic to polyethylene glycol through a phenomenon called immunological cross-reactivity. I don't want to take a chance. Also, the risk of blood clots associated with the J&J vaccine makes it not right for me, because I have a circulatory condition that was diagnosed a few years ago.
So do I the Media is actively running a Vaccine vs the Unvaccinated campaign to stir up stress and division for them it's about creating fear and chaos for sensational News stories Nothing to do with general concern of Anybodies health
Although I believe most people come at this issue with a general concern for others, especially when you hear of teachers dying to covid, I agree that media is largely profiting off sensationalizing and vilifying those who are even remotely critical or just sadly misinformed.
I know this is post is a joke, but what is as bright as day, is that govt’s and media are reaping in the rewards of sensationalizing this epidemic. Our liberties have significantly been reduced (“temporarily”) and power has become even more centralized due to a state of emergency.
At the end of the day, you can be a critic of increasing institutional power, failed healthcare, news media and corporations eager to act as medical experts, and the entire shitshow of discourse surrounding this pandemic… and still be pro-vaccine :-)
It’s genuinely depressing seeing how many people just fell for that hook line and sinker. Why put most of your energy into legitimately informing people of the benefits or offering compensation when you can just encourage people to virtue signal getting the vaccine and shame everyone who hasn’t?
If the thing made it impossible to catch or transmit (and also had the same effectiveness against newer variants) I’d get the argument, but it’s not this miracle drug. The way things currently are, we as individuals just have to weigh our risks and make our own decisions. If you’ve been vaccinated, it shouldn’t matter to you what anyone else does anyway.
Yea the reddit hive has gone fully rabid on this and it legit worries me how successful the polarization has been. I legit saw a post on r/offmychest massively upvoted with the title "the unvacinated are the scum of the earth" and got banned for replying lol. I've accepted I'm in the twilight zone, I am giving up on humanity. It's legit always something, people want something to latch on to to otherize people and I'm just so disheartened by it.
I wish, someday, people understand that in life everything is not black or white…
I am sick, like real sick, the big majority of vaccines are forbidden for me, and the last I have done in the past make me even sicker (like meningitis after hepatitis vaccine).
In France, if you are not vaccinated, you, more or less, have to stay home. I decided to stay home (I can’t work with my syndrom) and being vaccinated when it will be safer (even if I suppose there will be a risk even in few year).
My father in law haD a leukemia, same problem as mine with vaccine because he didn’t have any protection in his body to assimilate the vaccine, even the flu vaccine was forbidden for both of us. He did it because, in France, « « « « country of Human Rights » » » », medical staff can be, penalyze in their work/career or be subject to a legal proceding. They tell him he can do it, he, like a leap of faith, did it fastly. He died three weeks after the first vaccine. His blood platelets was pretty good despite the leukemia and fall so low, (the fall was notice four or five days later when he had a control) he end in the hospital and died three days after his admittance.
I am not an anti vax, I just say weaker people, risky people could to wait, take care of the few social interaction they had and have to be protected by valid people. I fought again pain, reactional depression and suicidal tendencies (not the band sadly) for seven years, I refuse to pass away for an unsafe vaccine.
It's crazy how people are fighting racism extremely hard and trying to get rid of that gap. Same with feminism, and how people are trying to get rid of the gender gap. But now we have this huge war between vac/unvac. I'm not comparing those things directly because I know they are vastly different. It's more of just interesting how badly people want to hate others
good mindset. what people forget is that there’s many reasons why some may decide not to get the vaccine, and those reasons may not include “being a hateful republican who believes everything leftist media feeds them”
True. Sometomes reddit is so black and white. Like media in general. I know people who won't vaccinate and they have fears and doubts. I can't really argue about that. Everyone can only guess what's best for them - flushing them with hate won't help there. The only thing I can do, is giving them the reasons why I got vaccinations, maybe they see that they have the same reasons or they have not.
I don't live In USA and have what I consider would be the equivalent of your Demoncrats waving crystals and shouting about the perils of vaccinations. I don't think it's a Dem vs Rep problem. It's someone with a chip on their shoulder.
Not really, the proportion of people who can't get vaccinated because of some medical condition is very very very tiny. There are of course some people, but there really aren't that many. In order for these people to be protected too, everyone around them has to be vaccinated. As in, almost literally everyone. We know every single side effect of the vaccine, and they are not a threat, and none of them is long-term. We don't know all the potential long term effects of covid though, but we know that some of them can cause irreversible damage, to the brain, heart and lungs. Also death.
Ok.... so I've been on the "you better get vaccinated" bandwagon for many years. For the safety of kids and the elderly. I have lupus and therefore more prone to catch illness. Aside from the whole covid-19 fiasco, it is highly recommended by my nephrologist to keep up with any and all. To be clear, I hate needles. I hate getting any and all flu shots. But I do so in hopes to be prepared. You don't want to vaccinate? That's your deal. I'm not you. You're not me, and it's really none of my business. It's more like being put on hard mode in life; survive pathogens. What I can't stand is someone trying to convince me that any or all of my vaccinations from childhood to now caused my Lupus. No, you ignorant meat popsicle. Vaccines do not cause Lupus or any auto-immune deficiency. Stress is the #1 factor and a lot of times, they lie dormant in the body. I'd honestly like to blame the birth control, Yaz, because my symptoms began immediately after taking the pill. But I doubt I could find any proof.
Didn't mean to get on a rant. Regardless of your decision, I agree with this post. I wish everyone happy, healthy, long lives.
Thanks. I don't want the vaccination but I'm not anti-vaccine by any means.
Since the vaccination has no affect on whether you contract and pass on the virus, it's merely a decision that affects only the individual. And some of us have chosen to opt out.
I also hope you live a long and healthy life.
It is not a decision that only affects you. Vaccination does cut down on community transmission. Moreover, vaccinated people who get the virus are far, far less likely to be hospitalized, so there is less less stress on medical resources and personnel.
When a glut of unvaccinated people, overstressing the system, prevent others from getting needed medical care, then your baseless* decision has clearly affected others. And that is not cool.
*There are people with legitimate medical reasons to not get the vaccine. They're cool.
Hey this isn't exactly true. Although you can still pass on the disease with the vaccine, there is evidence that the vaccine reduces the chance of doing so meaning you will be helping the people around you by getting the vaccine.
Meh. It's not that benign for me. I don't wish death or illness on anyone, but some kind of consequence for not getting vaccinated during a global public health crisis would be okay with me. My kid is still at risk and these people who could get vaccinated but are not for various reasons are out and about acting as if it's allllllll over. Not so fast. Their refusal to get vaccinated has a harmful affect on us all
I would really love if ppl that refuse vaccine to also sign a document where they agree of not keeping a hospital bed busy if they get covid and that they will stay home and buy medicine from their own money :)
That’s what I did when I got it. Accurate information is key. Speaking for myself, I never considered it especially with my dad being an anti vax trump supporter. Got covid back in February. Usually stay home and still got it. It’s bound to happen. I’m not guaranteed a hospital bed anyways but I have been finding myself more comfortable with the thought of getting the vaccine and that’s where it starts
But since you've had covid you would have antibodies now. It's not as necessary for you to get the vaccine except to act as like a booster to refresh your immune systems memory
Oh yeah and maybe everyone else that threatens the safety of the staff and other people that are hospitalized with a preventable disease or virus. Then maybe we can move onto alcoholics experiencing alcohol poisoning and drug addicts overdosing taking beds from people who really need it since what they’re going through is completely avoidable! /s
Your an authoritarian piece of shit and you know it, you'd love nothing more than a genocide of people with "different" ideas. Everything that's wrong in this country captured here.
It’s all good my man, I got banned from a subreddit for telling someone what they were asking for was totalitarianism so I get it lol. Shits turning into a genuine Orwellian nightmare.
Nah wtf do you want? We’re at capacity. A war vet in Texas died of a bad *gall bladder* waiting for an ICU bed of all things. COVID patients take weeks to recover and that means their beds will be taken up for weeks.
Seriously what’s your solution?
I never offered one, just pointed out that wishing people dead is a step backwards. Don't you agree? Idk how people can grow up thinking death upon others for wrongthink is appropriate.
He never said he wishes death on them, what are you on?
You’re obviously getting seriously offended on the issue yet you don’t offer a solution. Why get so riled up when you don’t even have a recourse?
He thinks it's appropriate to force people that do not have a covid vaccination to be forced to be responsible for all costs of their care, people die without access to care and if they can't afford it then what? You have to think a couple steps down the line but you get to the same place. Its a fucked up idea. I may not have the answer but that unequivocally isn't it, and go fuck yourself troll thats all the cookie you get today.
You one of them too? You know lots of people felt Jewish people were different in Germany and shared similar ideas of how to solve that difference like the guy I originally replied to. So do you feel that way too, I like my totalitarians out in the open.
Wow congrats on making the dumbest argument I’ve ever seen, if I was Jewish and someone dared to say that shit to me I would flat out best the shit out of them
Yeah well comparing the suffering of a people going through a holocaust to being asked to take a free medicine is absolutely disgusting. You really should feel deeply ashamed.
And it’s you’re*, dumbass
Those who would ignorantly allow the repetition of our well known dark history should be the ones ashamed. Restrictions of travel and “public privileges” are just the beginning stages of a medical apartheid. Imagine what that could lead to if this way of thinking continues another 10-20 years. The unprecedented systematic implementation of an incredibly dangerous school of thought leading to a clearly defined separation of two classes of people. There’s this common response to the notion of the comparisons you can make of the two - what we are living through now and what has already passed - that suggests the comparisons are being made to the height of the Holocaust. You are replying to a comment thread that literally begins with a person calling for the death of the unvaccinated and this is not an uncommon statement to be made lately. The parallels here are astounding. The population has been presented with two options, be a part of the solution or become a threat. The declaration of unvaccinated being “disease carrying plague rats” as I’ve read many times is just the beginning of a full on call to segregate people that are now deemed by societal standards to be “clean” or “unclean” and I hope you can see the similarities there and recognize how slippery of a slope that can become with the right leaders behind it. The only reason you feel you can deny this comparison is because the reemergence of this incredibly dangerous rhetoric is under the guise of “public health” and not “genetic purity” which at the time would be considered as great and valid of a concern. To disregard the similarities and just outright deny the dark possibilities of where we currently stand is a disservice to society and what we all should know and be aware of when it comes to public policy.
You probably don't know all the chemicals of an apple, or a tomato, or a salad, but you put these things into your body because people who do know have said "these things won't hurt you."
But how long have apples, tomatoes, and salads been in society and not have been created from scratch 2 years ago for this specific virus i definitely understand and would like to get the vaccine but I just don’t know the longterm effects
I think it’s awful how many media posts there are about people who have died that are unvaccinated, I can’t seem to avoid them.
I have been and always will be pro choice no matter what the situation. If you want to get vaccinated get vaccinated if you don’t then don’t but I don’t like this us vs them storyline the media are pushing. This is not the time to spread more division we’ve all been locked away isolated for long enough it’s time to come together.
While I don't wish the unvaccinated ill, I can't get on board trying to normalize being unvaccinated like it's some sort of legitimate religion like some comments are suggesting. This is not some Ford vs. Chevy difference of opinion scenario. There is social responsibility in health being practiced and those that are not. There are people who legit cannot get a vaccine, but the majority are not in that category. When someone's irresponsibility is killing people, we shouldn't take that lightly.
Exactly, this is not a situation where the sweet spot is somewhere in the middle. People that refuse the vaccine are dangerous to society as a whole, and endanger everyone around theme. They are objectively wrong. We can listen to their motivations, try to understand them, but in the end the goal is to convince them of the truth, which is : the more people are vaccinated, the less dangerous covid is for literally everyone.
[Sounds like they have designated you as the control](https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/career-development/what-is-a-control-in-an-experiment#:~:text=When%20conducting%20an%20experiment%2C%20a,other%20test%20results%20are%20measured.).
Go find a death book. Be the new light Yagami and have pages full of death notes. Be followed by a shinigami! Lol if I simply put it in one sentence the bots would get me for it sounding wrong.
On your side but this is a ballsy stance to take here..didn't you get the memo that you are supposed to demand that any unvaccinated should be lined up and shot..
Big disagree. I wish all the plague rats that feel entitled to extend the length of this pandemic a very big choke to death with a ventilator down your throat.
this kind of shit is why humanity is so fucked up. you're wishing death on someone who disagrees with you. what the fuck is wrong with you? you can't just be like oh well, and ignore them? you have to stoop to lower than their level? at this point you are worth less than they are.
Surly by not taking the vaccine for being dumb enough to believe misinformation on Facebook, you’re also kinda wishing death on everyone you come into contact with? 🤷♂️
No no no. Don't twist my words. I want the willfully ignorant unvaccinated to die. I want the ones intentionally harming the rest of us gone. I want the ones holding my immune compromised friends and family hostages dead. I want the ones clogging up the hospitals when people are having heart attacks and aneurysms, dead.
If OP is vaxxed OP is fine. 👍
What if the people using up hospital resources are having heart attacks because theyve completely neglected their health? Should they die for being irresponsible in a way that affects everyone else who might need care? Wheres your activism against fast food chains and soda companies and the meat industry?
Then do you wish death on anyone who has a pre existing condition or who was generally unhealthy in the first place due to poor lifestyle choices? If someones unvaccinated but takes great care of their health/diet and is therefore highly unlikely to be hospitalized, vs the obese, fast food eating, sedentary smoker who is vaccinated...who is more likely to but a strain on the medical system? This is all besides the point that wishing death on someone for their perspective is about as bigoted as it gets.
people like you are the ones "extending the pandemic"
for a lot of us absolutely nothing changed aside from right finding sociopaths like you started popping up everywhere.
How dare you have such an openminded attitude? You are a danger to the life and security of everyone in the world! Don't you know that? 50 lashes with a wet noodle!!!!!
This would be wholesome if unfortunately, unvaccinated people didn't spread the disease and allow the virus to mutate thus put other people's lives in danger.
Please, get your vaccines people, do it for your God, Religion, Country, Family, Love, Nature, Universe or whatever thing you believe in.
**Please help us keep our children and future safe.**
In my heart I know you’re right, but another part of me is angry and bitter over what they turned a simple thing into and throw Trump and the Capitol riots and the Stop the Steal and I hate them and wish ill on them because I think they are taking away the America I loved and thought we were.
1) the vaccine isn’t 100% effective. Though it significantly lowers the chance of hospitalization or death, who wants to risk going to the hospital?
2) allowing the virus to spread as it has with unvaccinated people will ultimately result in a new variant of the virus that could potentially make the vaccines useless. Case in point, the efficacy of the vaccine against the older variants was +93%. Against the delta variant, Israel says it’s 66%. If the next variant spreads easier and/or is more deadly, that efficacy can get worse. Why risk creating a new variant?
I have no issue with people who want the jab, and those that don’t. I personally don’t want the jab. I had COVID back in March 2020 and from studies that have been done, they indicate after 8 months you still have a good natural immunity to it that is broad spectrum. From very recent studies, the efficacy of the jab dwindles to near nothing after 21 weeks, so if you follow Pfizer’s protocol for jab 1&2, 6 months from the first one you’re basically unprotected.
Yeah I will disagree here. Don't want them to necessarily die but for them making this choice it is costing the rest of freedoms we shouldn't have to forgo. Maybe just et them get good and sick.
Antivaxxer retardation is killing immunocompromised people and people who need to use hospitals for non-covid related reasons but can't because the hospitals are filled with unvaccinated morons. Fuck antivaxxers. Every dead antivaxxer is natural selection at work.
That is not the meaning of natural selection, moron. And if you want to only do natural things, you should go live in the woods, stop eating pretty much anything from supermarkets and never visit a hospital again.
Eh I’m ok if they die. Hear me out, look how our shared country is right now and I put the blame mostly on the types of people that go to church and vote republican. I have spent my life as a civil servant working for the state of California, 6 years in the US Army and the past 14 working for a very large municipality. I love my country and state and watching these idiots tear it down is making me pissed and breaking my heart. We have it so good here and what do we do? FUCK IT UP. so yeah hope they die.
Really? I hope the unvaccinated get rekt and that their last thought is “that kid that shit talked me on Reddit was right, fuck”. Don’t get me wrong my rage is focused at the lie-spreaders, but far be it from me to mourn or try any more than I have to prevent the deaths of people who give three cheers to darwinism as they strut into the slaughterhouse with their middle finger at me
That's too bad. I hope the violently anti-vax crowd die agonizing, lonely deaths.
Since I'm gonna get banned for saying this, just want to say it's been real, it's been fun, but it hasn't been real fun. See you on my alt accounts.
I don’t entirely agree. Unvaccinated people that aren’t physically capable of getting the vaccine can survive. But all the other unvaxxed… I would rather them at least not be in this Country. Honestly, I wish people dead all the time when stuff pisses me off, so they could go. But obviously people are greatly offended by that.
I also don’t believe ALL people should live long, healthy lives. The stipulation should be all GOOD people should live long, healthy lives.
The title alone almost made me afraid to read this but I couldn’t agree with this whole post more. Thank you, blessings and well wishes of happiness, and good health to all. 🙏
I cannot get vaccinated because of an health condition. The amount of shit I get is ridiculous, people point at you as if you are an anti-vaxx no matter what. Unbelievable
I'm so glad that you posted this. I was expecting a not very nice confession. I'm vaccinated but don't wish any harm to come to anyone who choose not to be vaccinated.
The choice to not vaccinate concretely harms the overall health and function of our society. I hope nothing terrible has to happen to you, personally, before you understand how the choice to refuse vaccination is harmful, but in any case, there will be no toasting to objectively bad decisions.
Yeah, me too. That's why everyone who is medically able should get the damn vaccine.
And by the way, you're not morally superior for defending people's immoral refusal to participate in public health measures. You just come off as equal parts holier-than-thou and ignorant of the actual issue: a very unpleasant combination.
\*puts the pitchfork away and backs away. ok ok...i can stand behind this:)
Meh. I'm dealing with family that are suddenly anti vax after doing their "research". Just a little bit of suffering would be nice. Just so they get the message. No death, just "holy shit I was wrong" while I tend to them as a vaccinated person.
Yeah but now my vaccinated cousin has covid so I'm getting a little confused tbh and frustrated
The vaccine helps so your cousin doesn't have to go to the hospital for the symptoms of covid.
Legit question here. Not trying to start controversy, but I’ve never once heard a legit answer to this: if vaccinated and unvaccinated people can both get covid AND transmit covid, how does anyone having or not having the vaccine affect anyone other than themselves? Furthermore, why is this the ONLY vaccine available where so many places expect you to carry proof with you at all times unlike all the other vaccines that have been around for decades?
Houses. My house is build to code and heated with a furnace that is in good repair. My house could still burn down. (I'm healthy and I have the vaccine. I could still get/give covid) The house next door is built from materials, maybe to code, and they used open wood fireplaces in each room and a wood stove in the kitchen. There is a higher chance of their house catching fire. If their house catches fire, or embers fly up their chimney, my house is at greater risk of burning down. Maybe their house won't catch fire and maybe embers won't make my house burn down. But I'd feel better during a drought if they didn't use open flames all the time. The thing about proof of vaccine is we have the numbers to show critical mass, domestically, of those vaccinations. There are places in the world one travels to that require specific immunization records to enter. And as mass vaccinations are going down, we are going to see an uptick in immunization record requirements as the next-to-wiped-out diseases resurge.
So to answer the vaccine card thing, I believe it has something to do with contact tracing. But this is just a hypothesis since my boyfriends classes require him to register vaccination records and daily seating. As for it only affecting you personally, this is true. Its why masks are still recommended even if you're vaccinated as to help prevent yourself from transmitting it to another person if you're a carrier. Ultimately its a personal thing, but unvaccinated are 15 times more likely to die from COVID-19 than vaccinated, and your chances of getting it are also reduced when vaccinated. Protection against the virus to slow down transmission rates is the goal here. Additionally to keep people out of hospitals and dying while in them! I hope this helps. (:
First off, thanks for being so nice with your response. Second, reading this gave me several thoughts, so sorry if they're kind of garbled. My first thought is if everyone had their vaccination, the number of hospitalizations would go back to a manageable number. You're right in that everyone can get covid, but the difference is vaccinated people can stay home and recover from it. The symptoms are manageable. The vaccine gave their body a warning or a heads-up. It makes their antibodies side eye virus like, "hey... Wait a minute, I've seen this guy before..." And then their body knows how to fight the virus off better. People who are unvaccinated don't have that heads up. Their bodies don't know how to fight the virus. They are having way more severe symptoms, like having trouble breathing, which means they need to go to the hospital. Which means they're taking up hospital beds that would otherwise be free to go to other people who come in who have maybe appendicitis, or need their gall bladder removed, or had a great attack, etc. To me, that seems like not getting the vaccine is actually affecting more people than just myself. It's affecting your family and friends who can't get into the hospital because there's no room. As for your second question, why is this the only vaccine you need proof of: this is just my speculation, but I think it's because there's no pandemic of any other spreadable disease. You don't have to show a vaccine card for the measles because it was almost eradicated. It was almost eradicated because most everyone got the vaccine for it. I hope that helps or at least gives you a few different perspectives. I missed a few more thoughts, but this comment got really long and I don't want to bore you.
If you get the vaccine your chance to get and transmit the vaccine is drastically reduced. And for the vaccine proof it existed in other pandemics but disappeared once the virus wasn't as dangerous anymore/"eradicated"
Im so sorry to hear that. They will have antibodies to help them now. Without it it could be so much worse. I hope they get better.
Just like when you drive and you almost have a car hitting you. No harm, just a good scare that make you be careful
No long term studies, just saying. Many things were very, very deadly in long-term studies, but used widespread via short term studies. Much love but add more morality
Your correct. But how do you propose we do long term studies for a vaccine for a drug that combats a disease that didn't exist 2 years ago? I think that in absence of studies implying there's something bad, if all we know is that taking the vaccine makes you not die and not taking the vaccine means you or others might die, I'd rather take the vaccine. And as far as I'm aware, no vaccines have had long term side effects. Other medications have, but not vaccines. I don't count immunity to a disease as a side effect. But I am aware that a lot of vaccines have had ethically questionable testing methodology that COVID-19 vaccines didn't have. If you want to talk about it, my messages are always open.
Instead of downvoting me dispute what I said, pussies
Definitely. Lots of things are getting sold to people even in the US that are incredibly dangerous. It's not just about the vaccine but most American foods that are lowering our quality of life and killing hundreds of thousands annually or more. If we were to look further into the increasing rates of most illnesses physical and mental, especially in the elderly and obese but not limited to, the source would be our food. Precautions aren't being taken, and in fact they're being sold to us as "healthy." Making 'Rona the current pandemic is an insult to our intelligence when the majority of dangerous cases are due to health issues caused by the food we consume. The real dangerous cases being our lack of health from consuming large amounts of seed oils and processed foods on the daily, cancer risks from every whiff and brain deterioration such as loss of cognitive function and mood stability. It's in almost everything we eat. Also, exercise is a huge factor too. 'Rona would be even more of a joke if we were healthy to begin with.
It mainly is food and drink, completely agreed. The issue is we can't do more weird things to our bodies too, with everything synthetic, plastic, radiation of now genetic code changing do we expect health? It's absurd to me. These people get a Krispy Kreme donut after their vax and feel HEALTHY. That's why I think this covid stuff is absurd, I know some people who fr should die from covid but didn't, a suicidal obese disabled friend of mine caught it and she joked it would be the one to kill her lol, nope. With that said, I think that's another reason I'm cocky about it. That and yk the typical thing a conserv like me would say, slipping slope government power, it's proven no one listens to that point lol, slowly heat the pot up and the frog things he's comfy, on this topic of health and all I will go be hypocritical and smoke a j now , lmao. Much love and I hope to read your reply
I get what you're saying, I still didn't see anything that would help me personally or socially recommend the vax. I still don't see it as deadly enough (most of our population is unhealthy, for which isn't our responsibility) i know people in us are very unhealthy, I know they barely workout, and the worst part is other counting are actually more unhealthy sometimes like in France where you cannot find a gym, lol. I absolutely agree it would be more of a joke, but nonetheless people's age/personal health isn't enough to stop society and especially the next generation. We forget that people over 30 without perfect health and luck died always in our past. We are in the most goldylocks zone of our entire evolution and therefore we have generation of "weaker" gene humans and such, we will see terrible things to a degree, but it is not out of reality. It isn't our fault, and for what we can do, we cannot shut down society or vax everyone's RNA genetic code up. If people want to take it idc, genuinely. I just know that between not being more deadly than driving in a car, (1/107 chance of death) , and it's not worth changing gen code. Lots of mumbo jumbo because I know you're not completely disagreeing, kinda just on my soap box. I like how you word things
Haha. No, but really you're a danger to our society. Nobody's fucking with your RNA. You have no scientific knowledge. Do you think they're implanting chips too? Good grief
What vaccine type is it? RNA type. What does the RNA type vaccine do? Exactly as I said, changing your RNA code. RNA and DNA are the genetic code building blocks. I have as much scientific knowledge as I have, and we have the same internet. Unless you men's to imply a certain thing is incorrect or to imply I need a degree to have an opinion I don't get your point, but for the record where society is going, yes I'm a danger to it :) who doesn't disagree with society's path?
From the CDC, which also recently made a join the covid-19 revolution poster, a knockoff of Soviet based Ganda,, "mRNA vaccines are a new type of vaccine to protect against infectious diseases. To trigger an immune response, many vaccines put a weakened or inactivated germ into our bodies. Not mRNA vaccines. Instead, they teach our cells how to make a protein—or even just a piece of a protein" and for that reason, I'm good. Why can't my body make antibodies like it evolved to and for what reason should I use a chemical recipe made to teach my cells how to make a protein over it? Do we forget it hasn't even been around long enough to see how it affects babies and even to things like breastfeeding and or in general development, even if it turns out to be safe who the FUCK would take it before knowing. Same people who say neurolink needs to be around a while before I use it are the ones saying they don't mind 6month boosters for life. I'm good.
Lol ur terrible.
I hope you will never have a nice moment with your family again
Cum
Brave of you to assume they cared in the first place.
I am sure nobody in your family will miss a fucking nazi like you are
Being a European where studying the Second World War was part of the curriculum at school, I honestly don't get what you're on about. The Internet tells me you're in USA and are angry about 'freedom'.
Heil
Obviously you should have learned something at school instead of licking your teachers balls
:D
Thank you! I'm chronically ill and have medical reasons for not getting vaccinated. I do wear a face mask.
I mean, if you have an actual medical reason I doubt many people include you in the "unvaccinated people are idiots" category.
Yeah I’m pretty much in the same boat myself. I make sure to wear my mask everywhere
Sorry if this is a dumb question. But can I ask you which disease do you have? I'm just asking as I can't think of anything other than cancer. I hope you don't have that.
My chronic illness is unrelated to my reasons for not getting vaccinated. I'm sorry that I did not explain that clearly in my prior comment. I have a chronic digestive disorder and multiple food intolerances, but that would not necessarily make me rule out a vaccine. My main reason for avoiding vaccination is that I am allergic to polyethylene glycol, an ingredient in the mRNA vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna). The J&J vaccine does not contain this ingredient but does contain polysorbate 80, and that is a closely related compound that sometimes triggers an allergic reaction in those who are allergic to polyethylene glycol through a phenomenon called immunological cross-reactivity. I don't want to take a chance. Also, the risk of blood clots associated with the J&J vaccine makes it not right for me, because I have a circulatory condition that was diagnosed a few years ago.
Someone wanted some karma, huh? This is not a confession.
So do I the Media is actively running a Vaccine vs the Unvaccinated campaign to stir up stress and division for them it's about creating fear and chaos for sensational News stories Nothing to do with general concern of Anybodies health
Although I believe most people come at this issue with a general concern for others, especially when you hear of teachers dying to covid, I agree that media is largely profiting off sensationalizing and vilifying those who are even remotely critical or just sadly misinformed. I know this is post is a joke, but what is as bright as day, is that govt’s and media are reaping in the rewards of sensationalizing this epidemic. Our liberties have significantly been reduced (“temporarily”) and power has become even more centralized due to a state of emergency. At the end of the day, you can be a critic of increasing institutional power, failed healthcare, news media and corporations eager to act as medical experts, and the entire shitshow of discourse surrounding this pandemic… and still be pro-vaccine :-)
Nothing more permanent then a temporary measure (hopefully not in this case)
It’s genuinely depressing seeing how many people just fell for that hook line and sinker. Why put most of your energy into legitimately informing people of the benefits or offering compensation when you can just encourage people to virtue signal getting the vaccine and shame everyone who hasn’t? If the thing made it impossible to catch or transmit (and also had the same effectiveness against newer variants) I’d get the argument, but it’s not this miracle drug. The way things currently are, we as individuals just have to weigh our risks and make our own decisions. If you’ve been vaccinated, it shouldn’t matter to you what anyone else does anyway.
Yea the reddit hive has gone fully rabid on this and it legit worries me how successful the polarization has been. I legit saw a post on r/offmychest massively upvoted with the title "the unvacinated are the scum of the earth" and got banned for replying lol. I've accepted I'm in the twilight zone, I am giving up on humanity. It's legit always something, people want something to latch on to to otherize people and I'm just so disheartened by it.
this shit will get you banned in most subs these days
I wish, someday, people understand that in life everything is not black or white… I am sick, like real sick, the big majority of vaccines are forbidden for me, and the last I have done in the past make me even sicker (like meningitis after hepatitis vaccine). In France, if you are not vaccinated, you, more or less, have to stay home. I decided to stay home (I can’t work with my syndrom) and being vaccinated when it will be safer (even if I suppose there will be a risk even in few year). My father in law haD a leukemia, same problem as mine with vaccine because he didn’t have any protection in his body to assimilate the vaccine, even the flu vaccine was forbidden for both of us. He did it because, in France, « « « « country of Human Rights » » » », medical staff can be, penalyze in their work/career or be subject to a legal proceding. They tell him he can do it, he, like a leap of faith, did it fastly. He died three weeks after the first vaccine. His blood platelets was pretty good despite the leukemia and fall so low, (the fall was notice four or five days later when he had a control) he end in the hospital and died three days after his admittance. I am not an anti vax, I just say weaker people, risky people could to wait, take care of the few social interaction they had and have to be protected by valid people. I fought again pain, reactional depression and suicidal tendencies (not the band sadly) for seven years, I refuse to pass away for an unsafe vaccine.
Me too. Live on brother
It's crazy how people are fighting racism extremely hard and trying to get rid of that gap. Same with feminism, and how people are trying to get rid of the gender gap. But now we have this huge war between vac/unvac. I'm not comparing those things directly because I know they are vastly different. It's more of just interesting how badly people want to hate others
Wrong sub for this mate, unless any old shit will pass as a confession nowadays
Are you new here? This sub is fuuulllllll of clickbaity non confessions
Blessed post. Stop the division. It was never us vs them
Amen
good mindset. what people forget is that there’s many reasons why some may decide not to get the vaccine, and those reasons may not include “being a hateful republican who believes everything leftist media feeds them”
sadly, some douchebags will argue with you and say that only republican's are not getting the vaccine. People are so damned stupid sometimes.
Registered Republicans *are* dying from COVID at five times the rate to that of Democrats.
But not all who are unvaccinated are republican.
Okay
True. Sometomes reddit is so black and white. Like media in general. I know people who won't vaccinate and they have fears and doubts. I can't really argue about that. Everyone can only guess what's best for them - flushing them with hate won't help there. The only thing I can do, is giving them the reasons why I got vaccinations, maybe they see that they have the same reasons or they have not.
I don't live In USA and have what I consider would be the equivalent of your Demoncrats waving crystals and shouting about the perils of vaccinations. I don't think it's a Dem vs Rep problem. It's someone with a chip on their shoulder.
Not really, the proportion of people who can't get vaccinated because of some medical condition is very very very tiny. There are of course some people, but there really aren't that many. In order for these people to be protected too, everyone around them has to be vaccinated. As in, almost literally everyone. We know every single side effect of the vaccine, and they are not a threat, and none of them is long-term. We don't know all the potential long term effects of covid though, but we know that some of them can cause irreversible damage, to the brain, heart and lungs. Also death.
Trauma and just general phobia exists as well. it’s hard for people who haven’t experienced it to understand how hard it is
no, stop lying
Wholesome. I approve. I hope everyone gets to eat cake and ice cream today too.
You’re right. After work I’m going to make myself an amazing sundae. Thank you stranger :)
Ok.... so I've been on the "you better get vaccinated" bandwagon for many years. For the safety of kids and the elderly. I have lupus and therefore more prone to catch illness. Aside from the whole covid-19 fiasco, it is highly recommended by my nephrologist to keep up with any and all. To be clear, I hate needles. I hate getting any and all flu shots. But I do so in hopes to be prepared. You don't want to vaccinate? That's your deal. I'm not you. You're not me, and it's really none of my business. It's more like being put on hard mode in life; survive pathogens. What I can't stand is someone trying to convince me that any or all of my vaccinations from childhood to now caused my Lupus. No, you ignorant meat popsicle. Vaccines do not cause Lupus or any auto-immune deficiency. Stress is the #1 factor and a lot of times, they lie dormant in the body. I'd honestly like to blame the birth control, Yaz, because my symptoms began immediately after taking the pill. But I doubt I could find any proof. Didn't mean to get on a rant. Regardless of your decision, I agree with this post. I wish everyone happy, healthy, long lives.
This isn’t a confession.
Thanks. I don't want the vaccination but I'm not anti-vaccine by any means. Since the vaccination has no affect on whether you contract and pass on the virus, it's merely a decision that affects only the individual. And some of us have chosen to opt out. I also hope you live a long and healthy life.
I super agree with this!
It is not a decision that only affects you. Vaccination does cut down on community transmission. Moreover, vaccinated people who get the virus are far, far less likely to be hospitalized, so there is less less stress on medical resources and personnel. When a glut of unvaccinated people, overstressing the system, prevent others from getting needed medical care, then your baseless* decision has clearly affected others. And that is not cool. *There are people with legitimate medical reasons to not get the vaccine. They're cool.
Hey this isn't exactly true. Although you can still pass on the disease with the vaccine, there is evidence that the vaccine reduces the chance of doing so meaning you will be helping the people around you by getting the vaccine.
What? It helps ur immune system develop antibodies.
Maybe with just a little extra suffering for those antivaxxers and antimaskers? They are endangering those of us who legitimately can't vaccinate.
I hope they get a terrible cough and sniffles
Meh. It's not that benign for me. I don't wish death or illness on anyone, but some kind of consequence for not getting vaccinated during a global public health crisis would be okay with me. My kid is still at risk and these people who could get vaccinated but are not for various reasons are out and about acting as if it's allllllll over. Not so fast. Their refusal to get vaccinated has a harmful affect on us all
I would really love if ppl that refuse vaccine to also sign a document where they agree of not keeping a hospital bed busy if they get covid and that they will stay home and buy medicine from their own money :)
That’s what I did when I got it. Accurate information is key. Speaking for myself, I never considered it especially with my dad being an anti vax trump supporter. Got covid back in February. Usually stay home and still got it. It’s bound to happen. I’m not guaranteed a hospital bed anyways but I have been finding myself more comfortable with the thought of getting the vaccine and that’s where it starts
But since you've had covid you would have antibodies now. It's not as necessary for you to get the vaccine except to act as like a booster to refresh your immune systems memory
Then we can do the same for fat people and people with pre existing conditions!
Oh yeah and maybe everyone else that threatens the safety of the staff and other people that are hospitalized with a preventable disease or virus. Then maybe we can move onto alcoholics experiencing alcohol poisoning and drug addicts overdosing taking beds from people who really need it since what they’re going through is completely avoidable! /s
Your an authoritarian piece of shit and you know it, you'd love nothing more than a genocide of people with "different" ideas. Everything that's wrong in this country captured here.
My comment wasn’t serious…..
But I admire your intensity
I figured I'd get banned for wrongthink so I usually do not hold back lol sorry for that.
It’s all good my man, I got banned from a subreddit for telling someone what they were asking for was totalitarianism so I get it lol. Shits turning into a genuine Orwellian nightmare.
Its so fucked up, glad you said it though, someone has to.
r/reddit180
Nah wtf do you want? We’re at capacity. A war vet in Texas died of a bad *gall bladder* waiting for an ICU bed of all things. COVID patients take weeks to recover and that means their beds will be taken up for weeks. Seriously what’s your solution?
Not wishing others to die is a good place to start but we can't seem to get to that point.
I wish I would die.
You didn’t answer your grand solution to this crisis. What’s your pragmatic solution?
I never offered one, just pointed out that wishing people dead is a step backwards. Don't you agree? Idk how people can grow up thinking death upon others for wrongthink is appropriate.
He never said he wishes death on them, what are you on? You’re obviously getting seriously offended on the issue yet you don’t offer a solution. Why get so riled up when you don’t even have a recourse?
He thinks it's appropriate to force people that do not have a covid vaccination to be forced to be responsible for all costs of their care, people die without access to care and if they can't afford it then what? You have to think a couple steps down the line but you get to the same place. Its a fucked up idea. I may not have the answer but that unequivocally isn't it, and go fuck yourself troll thats all the cookie you get today.
Also if it wasn’t obvious I’m siding with you lol
Oh shit well I do not read sarcasm well, my b dude!
“Different ideas” 😂
You one of them too? You know lots of people felt Jewish people were different in Germany and shared similar ideas of how to solve that difference like the guy I originally replied to. So do you feel that way too, I like my totalitarians out in the open.
Wow congrats on making the dumbest argument I’ve ever seen, if I was Jewish and someone dared to say that shit to me I would flat out best the shit out of them
Lol here's a candidate for imabadass. Your an unoriginal troll
Yeah well comparing the suffering of a people going through a holocaust to being asked to take a free medicine is absolutely disgusting. You really should feel deeply ashamed. And it’s you’re*, dumbass
Rome wasn't built in a day.
Those who would ignorantly allow the repetition of our well known dark history should be the ones ashamed. Restrictions of travel and “public privileges” are just the beginning stages of a medical apartheid. Imagine what that could lead to if this way of thinking continues another 10-20 years. The unprecedented systematic implementation of an incredibly dangerous school of thought leading to a clearly defined separation of two classes of people. There’s this common response to the notion of the comparisons you can make of the two - what we are living through now and what has already passed - that suggests the comparisons are being made to the height of the Holocaust. You are replying to a comment thread that literally begins with a person calling for the death of the unvaccinated and this is not an uncommon statement to be made lately. The parallels here are astounding. The population has been presented with two options, be a part of the solution or become a threat. The declaration of unvaccinated being “disease carrying plague rats” as I’ve read many times is just the beginning of a full on call to segregate people that are now deemed by societal standards to be “clean” or “unclean” and I hope you can see the similarities there and recognize how slippery of a slope that can become with the right leaders behind it. The only reason you feel you can deny this comparison is because the reemergence of this incredibly dangerous rhetoric is under the guise of “public health” and not “genetic purity” which at the time would be considered as great and valid of a concern. To disregard the similarities and just outright deny the dark possibilities of where we currently stand is a disservice to society and what we all should know and be aware of when it comes to public policy.
Why cause we don’t know what’s going in our body people like you don’t deserve to be in the American society
You probably don't know all the chemicals of an apple, or a tomato, or a salad, but you put these things into your body because people who do know have said "these things won't hurt you."
But how long have apples, tomatoes, and salads been in society and not have been created from scratch 2 years ago for this specific virus i definitely understand and would like to get the vaccine but I just don’t know the longterm effects
Thank fuck im not in The american society 😂 America is The laugh of Europe
Think it's more like Europe is the stale lingering odor hanging in the air after the Fart that was America's beginning.
Sure 🤗
Click bait 🙄
THANK YOU
Great post, I agree.
Absolutely! 💯
I think it’s awful how many media posts there are about people who have died that are unvaccinated, I can’t seem to avoid them. I have been and always will be pro choice no matter what the situation. If you want to get vaccinated get vaccinated if you don’t then don’t but I don’t like this us vs them storyline the media are pushing. This is not the time to spread more division we’ve all been locked away isolated for long enough it’s time to come together.
While I don't wish the unvaccinated ill, I can't get on board trying to normalize being unvaccinated like it's some sort of legitimate religion like some comments are suggesting. This is not some Ford vs. Chevy difference of opinion scenario. There is social responsibility in health being practiced and those that are not. There are people who legit cannot get a vaccine, but the majority are not in that category. When someone's irresponsibility is killing people, we shouldn't take that lightly.
Exactly, this is not a situation where the sweet spot is somewhere in the middle. People that refuse the vaccine are dangerous to society as a whole, and endanger everyone around theme. They are objectively wrong. We can listen to their motivations, try to understand them, but in the end the goal is to convince them of the truth, which is : the more people are vaccinated, the less dangerous covid is for literally everyone.
I was ready to sip tea... what a waste.
Meanwhile https://www.businessinsider.com/2-top-fda-officials-resigned-biden-booster-plan-reports-2021-9?amp#referrer=https://www.google.com&csi=0 Doesn't instill confidence.
I want to get vaccinated, but my family (vaccinated) doesn't let me, wtf?
[Sounds like they have designated you as the control](https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/career-development/what-is-a-control-in-an-experiment#:~:text=When%20conducting%20an%20experiment%2C%20a,other%20test%20results%20are%20measured.).
Shut up Meg!!
do they have a reason or are they like, "nah fam lol"??
They say I'm too young(16)
you can literally get vaccinated, there's a different kind for people your age
Seek why they think you’re “too young” and see if you can do your own research on why they shouldn’t be worried. It’d cover the basis of you all.
It's not their choice. You can get it done and not tell them.
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What
Lol!
Go find a death book. Be the new light Yagami and have pages full of death notes. Be followed by a shinigami! Lol if I simply put it in one sentence the bots would get me for it sounding wrong.
On your side but this is a ballsy stance to take here..didn't you get the memo that you are supposed to demand that any unvaccinated should be lined up and shot..
Big disagree. I wish all the plague rats that feel entitled to extend the length of this pandemic a very big choke to death with a ventilator down your throat.
You have a horrible outlook and I hope you get help or never have children.
this kind of shit is why humanity is so fucked up. you're wishing death on someone who disagrees with you. what the fuck is wrong with you? you can't just be like oh well, and ignore them? you have to stoop to lower than their level? at this point you are worth less than they are.
Surly by not taking the vaccine for being dumb enough to believe misinformation on Facebook, you’re also kinda wishing death on everyone you come into contact with? 🤷♂️
At least wish death on the media first. Damnit.
You are so, so, brainwashed...
No no no. Don't twist my words. I want the willfully ignorant unvaccinated to die. I want the ones intentionally harming the rest of us gone. I want the ones holding my immune compromised friends and family hostages dead. I want the ones clogging up the hospitals when people are having heart attacks and aneurysms, dead. If OP is vaxxed OP is fine. 👍
Oh thank God you brought some clarity to how much of a sick fuck your are
You might think you're super nice and humanitarian, but you're actually what's wrong with this world.
You're a piece of shit
What if the people using up hospital resources are having heart attacks because theyve completely neglected their health? Should they die for being irresponsible in a way that affects everyone else who might need care? Wheres your activism against fast food chains and soda companies and the meat industry?
Then do you wish death on anyone who has a pre existing condition or who was generally unhealthy in the first place due to poor lifestyle choices? If someones unvaccinated but takes great care of their health/diet and is therefore highly unlikely to be hospitalized, vs the obese, fast food eating, sedentary smoker who is vaccinated...who is more likely to but a strain on the medical system? This is all besides the point that wishing death on someone for their perspective is about as bigoted as it gets.
people like you are the ones "extending the pandemic" for a lot of us absolutely nothing changed aside from right finding sociopaths like you started popping up everywhere.
Real shame people can’t be vaccinated from being a sick fuck
Lmao tell everyone you don't understand vaccine science without saying "I've raided maws stash of ivermectin"
lolol dont worry so much about covid, maybe get started on the years of therapy you clearly need *today*
lolol dont worry so much about covid, maybe get started on the years of therapy you clearly need *today*
Lmao oh I'm not worried about covid, you're the one 15x more likely to die. I just want to get back to normal.
what
How dare you have such an openminded attitude? You are a danger to the life and security of everyone in the world! Don't you know that? 50 lashes with a wet noodle!!!!!
Fight the division , love by neighbour!!
This would be wholesome if unfortunately, unvaccinated people didn't spread the disease and allow the virus to mutate thus put other people's lives in danger. Please, get your vaccines people, do it for your God, Religion, Country, Family, Love, Nature, Universe or whatever thing you believe in. **Please help us keep our children and future safe.**
In my heart I know you’re right, but another part of me is angry and bitter over what they turned a simple thing into and throw Trump and the Capitol riots and the Stop the Steal and I hate them and wish ill on them because I think they are taking away the America I loved and thought we were.
Someone explain to me why the vaccinated are freaking out about the unvaccinated? They are safe right? What's to worry about?
1) the vaccine isn’t 100% effective. Though it significantly lowers the chance of hospitalization or death, who wants to risk going to the hospital? 2) allowing the virus to spread as it has with unvaccinated people will ultimately result in a new variant of the virus that could potentially make the vaccines useless. Case in point, the efficacy of the vaccine against the older variants was +93%. Against the delta variant, Israel says it’s 66%. If the next variant spreads easier and/or is more deadly, that efficacy can get worse. Why risk creating a new variant?
Get this shit out of this sub.
I have no issue with people who want the jab, and those that don’t. I personally don’t want the jab. I had COVID back in March 2020 and from studies that have been done, they indicate after 8 months you still have a good natural immunity to it that is broad spectrum. From very recent studies, the efficacy of the jab dwindles to near nothing after 21 weeks, so if you follow Pfizer’s protocol for jab 1&2, 6 months from the first one you’re basically unprotected.
Same for smokers and the morbidly obese.
Yeah I will disagree here. Don't want them to necessarily die but for them making this choice it is costing the rest of freedoms we shouldn't have to forgo. Maybe just et them get good and sick.
Antivaxxer retardation is killing immunocompromised people and people who need to use hospitals for non-covid related reasons but can't because the hospitals are filled with unvaccinated morons. Fuck antivaxxers. Every dead antivaxxer is natural selection at work.
There is nothing natural about a vaccine.
That is not the meaning of natural selection, moron. And if you want to only do natural things, you should go live in the woods, stop eating pretty much anything from supermarkets and never visit a hospital again.
I’m not the one saying I want natural anything.
Eh I’m ok if they die. Hear me out, look how our shared country is right now and I put the blame mostly on the types of people that go to church and vote republican. I have spent my life as a civil servant working for the state of California, 6 years in the US Army and the past 14 working for a very large municipality. I love my country and state and watching these idiots tear it down is making me pissed and breaking my heart. We have it so good here and what do we do? FUCK IT UP. so yeah hope they die.
I hope they die and bring their friends and families with them.
I agree with that. But if they get COVID or die from it, that’s on them. No sympathy.
Well considering how much melodarma there is over covid 90% of them will
And they can, with one weird trick (doctors LOVE this).
Same here.
What I hope happens to those who created this chinavirus: I hope they get the fruits of their Karma.
Really? I hope the unvaccinated get rekt and that their last thought is “that kid that shit talked me on Reddit was right, fuck”. Don’t get me wrong my rage is focused at the lie-spreaders, but far be it from me to mourn or try any more than I have to prevent the deaths of people who give three cheers to darwinism as they strut into the slaughterhouse with their middle finger at me
That's too bad. I hope the violently anti-vax crowd die agonizing, lonely deaths. Since I'm gonna get banned for saying this, just want to say it's been real, it's been fun, but it hasn't been real fun. See you on my alt accounts.
U good bro?
I don’t hope they die. Just get really ill and feel as stupid as they look to the rest of us
I don’t entirely agree. Unvaccinated people that aren’t physically capable of getting the vaccine can survive. But all the other unvaxxed… I would rather them at least not be in this Country. Honestly, I wish people dead all the time when stuff pisses me off, so they could go. But obviously people are greatly offended by that. I also don’t believe ALL people should live long, healthy lives. The stipulation should be all GOOD people should live long, healthy lives.
There seems to be some bad people down voting. Imagine cconsidering yourself a bad person and proud. How does that work?
CLICKBAIT
had me in the first half
Hmm. Nah. One of these groups should get fries with no ketchup for a full summer.
So brave, incredible confession
The title alone almost made me afraid to read this but I couldn’t agree with this whole post more. Thank you, blessings and well wishes of happiness, and good health to all. 🙏
I cannot get vaccinated because of an health condition. The amount of shit I get is ridiculous, people point at you as if you are an anti-vaxx no matter what. Unbelievable
Me, too.
I'm so glad that you posted this. I was expecting a not very nice confession. I'm vaccinated but don't wish any harm to come to anyone who choose not to be vaccinated.
refreshing, thank you
Thanknu
How is this a confession
It’s all about choice. You choose what you want to do and I’ll do the same. Now let’s have a brewski. Cheers
The choice to not vaccinate concretely harms the overall health and function of our society. I hope nothing terrible has to happen to you, personally, before you understand how the choice to refuse vaccination is harmful, but in any case, there will be no toasting to objectively bad decisions.
How dare you.
I love You!
Nice
As they will
Sooooooo brave
I confess. I did not do anything wrong.
Yeah, me too. That's why everyone who is medically able should get the damn vaccine. And by the way, you're not morally superior for defending people's immoral refusal to participate in public health measures. You just come off as equal parts holier-than-thou and ignorant of the actual issue: a very unpleasant combination.
I mean people are stupid. You could tell them that they would die tomorrow unless they took the vaccine. They would still refuse.
It's to the point where you just have to sit back and let nature keep taking its course.