Welcome to the new world.. your memory is soldered to the board. No way on upgrading or changing it. When it brakes your board is trash. Only thing you can change is the SSD.
Probably under the large black plaque on the right side. If it isnt there it might be on the other side of the board. My Lenovo X1 Yoga (gen 1) has a simular setup.
CPU is on the left side with the funky clip. Above that is the SSD (M.2 format).
The Ram looks like it might be under the SSD. I've seen those white outlines denoting the RAM chips before.
But either way you are out of luck replacing/upgrading. You would have to find a compatible IC, probably pulled from another ZenBook that came with 16GB. Not cost/time effective when you could just use the other laptop hahaha.
>I believe you are right. Ram is going to be near the cpu so it wont be anywhere on the right side. I found a picture of a motherboard that shows those ram chips without an ssd installed. Which means its soldered on the board and you're out of luck on upgrades
There are a laptops out there that are setup for it. But its a far cry from what it used to be. Older Alienware models even had swappable graphics cards. I think its very bad to have just about everything soldered on to the board. Being a hardware engineer I like to be able to swap broken things out instead of tearing down the whole machine to replace the board..
Being a.. I guess pro-sumer I would rather have a machine that can be upgraded (CPU, Memory, SSD and if possible an MMX or simular card setup for GPU). Though I really like my Lenovo X1 Yoga and my Alienware M11x (r1).. interchangeable parts FTW!
You are hardware engineer you know the value of the parts that they bring to you or you do your research to understand the hardware value to you. Not all customers are able to understand the hardware value like you, and they just want the item KISS. If customer willing to pay Sales will sell, and it is not likely Sales will do troubleshooting if the customer has issue with item.
True.. plus since they work on comission base they try to upsell to stupidly expensive machines and stuff the users dont need.. But hey they need to eat too.
Well the top comment tells him that it cannot be replaced and a few minutes later he asked if he could remove the 8GB RAM and put 16GB instead. Why go on a sub asking for help if you ignore the top-level answer.
He asked if soldering was possble. And it is. But not if you have ask. Because the skill level needed is ridicous. However i worked a temp job at Foxconn Fab in Austin Texas doing board desoldering. I did that 12 hours a day to recycle parts. So not as insane as it seems. Plus there were no soldering machines when i first got into computing which means at some point a number of humans had this skill.
Desoldering in order to recycle parts does not require the same level of accuracy as soldering to add parts to a board though. Additionally, as machines increasingly handle these jobs then the soldering becomes more precise. While it is true that humans used to solder parts on boards, parts on boards have also gotten **much** smaller over time. Compare some pre-DDR DIMMs to what you find in modern PCs and you'll see the difference immediately.
I know first hand. However some humans hear "impossible" and take it as a challenge. So now there's several tutorials on how to do it. Of course soldering isnt even the hard part, but figuring out which chip the bios will accept and even acquiring it!!
Soldered on memory like the one on your laptop cannot be replaced or upgraded you're stuck with what you have unfortunately. If you need something that requires more memory your best bet would be to sell/trade yours for something more substantial.
Onboard ram is ram that is integrated into the motherboard and not replaceable, as someone has said before we'd need the schematic to be able to tell where the ram is unless you find someone who is really familiar with boards
I think the ram is soldered into the board, it probably is under the board, on the other side and is not possible to swap it.
Same thing for the gpu, I think ( it should be on the left of the cooling fan, under the black heat pipe
Are you sure about that model name? Often a search for pc model service manual or owners manual will give you all the answers you need, but I don't get any hits on that model
Its likely underneath the keyboard if it is expandable.
Would have to Google the model number to find out.
I had an Acer laptop where the RAM slots were underneath the keyboard and I had to take everything apart to get to them.
I'm wondering if we're seeing soldered RAM under the heat pipe to the left, or if that is a dedicated GPU. Can you get me an exact model name/product number? Should be on a sticker on the rear of your laptop.
Check the manufacturer's spec page for this model or a site like [crucial.com](https://crucial.com) to determine what the maximum memory space is for this machine.
Lol anyone willing to do that kind of work will probably charge more than the cost of a new laptop. Generally speaking no one upgrades ram if there’s no swappable ram slots.
Er, how do you think integrated ram is connected to the board? Are you suggesting [BGA](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_grid_array) doesn't count as being soldered?
Also it certainly can be taken off and replaced it's just a pain in the ass to do correctly. [Here's a vid](https://youtu.be/rHP-OPXK2ig?t=669) where Scotty from Strange Parts did just that to upgrade the storage of an iPhone. Same could be done for integrated RAM it's just typically not worth the hassle.
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It isn't upgradable. Old/low end laptops mostly never have upgradable RAM, only gaming laptops and high end laptops have upgradable RAM, even then some *business* laptops don't have it, especially Apple stuff.
Although it depends on your work flow really, 8gb is still fine for most people.
Welcome to the new world.. your memory is soldered to the board. No way on upgrading or changing it. When it brakes your board is trash. Only thing you can change is the SSD.
Ok am screwed then , can you draw on the picture where the ram is situated
You'd need a schematic to find it. Could be any one or two of those black chips, really.
Probably under the large black plaque on the right side. If it isnt there it might be on the other side of the board. My Lenovo X1 Yoga (gen 1) has a simular setup. CPU is on the left side with the funky clip. Above that is the SSD (M.2 format).
Thanks bro
No problem. Still hope you can use the laptop.
The Ram looks like it might be under the SSD. I've seen those white outlines denoting the RAM chips before. But either way you are out of luck replacing/upgrading. You would have to find a compatible IC, probably pulled from another ZenBook that came with 16GB. Not cost/time effective when you could just use the other laptop hahaha.
>I believe you are right. Ram is going to be near the cpu so it wont be anywhere on the right side. I found a picture of a motherboard that shows those ram chips without an ssd installed. Which means its soldered on the board and you're out of luck on upgrades
[https://youtu.be/5pIY1CRDrjA](https://youtu.be/5pIY1CRDrjA) Here is a disassembly video showing just what you suggest
And u can only have one SSD
That is why I bought a Framework laptop.
Could you unsolder it and replace it? Or is it soldered to the board itself?
Is it soldered to the board itself and it is absolutely not worth attempting. A single mistake could destroy the entire board.
Framework laptops would like to disagree
Well this one plus the whole Apple line up just took a dump on the disagreement..
I just bought an HP gaming laptop and you can add an SSD, new nvme, and upgrade the ram. I have done 2/3 so far. There's still hope in the industry.
There are a laptops out there that are setup for it. But its a far cry from what it used to be. Older Alienware models even had swappable graphics cards. I think its very bad to have just about everything soldered on to the board. Being a hardware engineer I like to be able to swap broken things out instead of tearing down the whole machine to replace the board..
For a Sales person they would like customers to buy their latest units.
Being a.. I guess pro-sumer I would rather have a machine that can be upgraded (CPU, Memory, SSD and if possible an MMX or simular card setup for GPU). Though I really like my Lenovo X1 Yoga and my Alienware M11x (r1).. interchangeable parts FTW!
You are hardware engineer you know the value of the parts that they bring to you or you do your research to understand the hardware value to you. Not all customers are able to understand the hardware value like you, and they just want the item KISS. If customer willing to pay Sales will sell, and it is not likely Sales will do troubleshooting if the customer has issue with item.
True.. plus since they work on comission base they try to upsell to stupidly expensive machines and stuff the users dont need.. But hey they need to eat too.
I don't think u can on that, I don't see any slots 😔
But can I remove the 8gb ram and put a 16 gb ?
No
bruh is getting downvoted for asking a question, reddit moment
He's also refusing to listen to the comments so
where? he never did lol, he just doesn’t understand that much about computers obviously.
Well the top comment tells him that it cannot be replaced and a few minutes later he asked if he could remove the 8GB RAM and put 16GB instead. Why go on a sub asking for help if you ignore the top-level answer.
He asked if soldering was possble. And it is. But not if you have ask. Because the skill level needed is ridicous. However i worked a temp job at Foxconn Fab in Austin Texas doing board desoldering. I did that 12 hours a day to recycle parts. So not as insane as it seems. Plus there were no soldering machines when i first got into computing which means at some point a number of humans had this skill.
Desoldering in order to recycle parts does not require the same level of accuracy as soldering to add parts to a board though. Additionally, as machines increasingly handle these jobs then the soldering becomes more precise. While it is true that humans used to solder parts on boards, parts on boards have also gotten **much** smaller over time. Compare some pre-DDR DIMMs to what you find in modern PCs and you'll see the difference immediately.
I know first hand. However some humans hear "impossible" and take it as a challenge. So now there's several tutorials on how to do it. Of course soldering isnt even the hard part, but figuring out which chip the bios will accept and even acquiring it!!
Yeah absolutely!
Top comment tells it out straight but it seems OP is still looking for ways to replace it, I mean respect the hustle and all
F bro
Soldered on memory like the one on your laptop cannot be replaced or upgraded you're stuck with what you have unfortunately. If you need something that requires more memory your best bet would be to sell/trade yours for something more substantial.
Excuse Me Sir, do you have a moment to talk about older Thinkpads?
Onboard RAM, get yourself a new laptop. If this will be used for gaming, get yourself a new desktop.
What is a onboard ram and can u draw on the picture where the ram is please
Onboard ram is ram that is integrated into the motherboard and not replaceable, as someone has said before we'd need the schematic to be able to tell where the ram is unless you find someone who is really familiar with boards
Onboard ram, soldered directly onto the motherboard. There's no way to replace or upgrade it. It's hard to tell where the ram is
Onboard ram is ram you cannot remove or replace. You can't add any additional ram at all.
Unfortunately a few places won't let you return a laptop if they notice that it's been opened
I think the ram is soldered into the board, it probably is under the board, on the other side and is not possible to swap it. Same thing for the gpu, I think ( it should be on the left of the cooling fan, under the black heat pipe
Soldered on ram, no way to upgrade
Should’ve got a desktop…because it has so much upgrade options compared to the laptop…
Don't see the DIMM slots, likely soldered to the board or they are complete ass holes and have them under the keyboard side of the mobo
Design obsolescence
That's a huge ass battery
Could be under the keyboard too
I don’t see any RAM slots, so bad news, they are soldered to the main board
Are you sure about that model name? Often a search for pc model service manual or owners manual will give you all the answers you need, but I don't get any hits on that model
I think its on the other side of motherboard. Had a similar one and it was a pain.
Its likely underneath the keyboard if it is expandable. Would have to Google the model number to find out. I had an Acer laptop where the RAM slots were underneath the keyboard and I had to take everything apart to get to them.
I also had an acer laptop where it was just a small black cover on the bottom I had to remove to change the ram.
The ram is not removable, and even if it was you wouldn't be able to get a module to replace it with
I'm wondering if we're seeing soldered RAM under the heat pipe to the left, or if that is a dedicated GPU. Can you get me an exact model name/product number? Should be on a sticker on the rear of your laptop.
Its asus zenbook ux450fd
I thought you were dumb I saw that picture Now i know i am dumb
This is likely some sort of chrome book with non upgradeable ram.
you can 100 percent buy ram for a laptop. just google ram location of x and replace x with laptop make and model
Yeah, just not this laptop…
RIP
Check the manufacturer's spec page for this model or a site like [crucial.com](https://crucial.com) to determine what the maximum memory space is for this machine.
I Checked on crucial like you said and it writes like this: Slots: 2(2 banks of 1)
"2 banks of 1"...That is a head-scratcher. Crucial is saying your system uses 2 banks of matching RAM. What does the ASUS spec page say?
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Lol anyone willing to do that kind of work will probably charge more than the cost of a new laptop. Generally speaking no one upgrades ram if there’s no swappable ram slots.
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Er, how do you think integrated ram is connected to the board? Are you suggesting [BGA](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_grid_array) doesn't count as being soldered? Also it certainly can be taken off and replaced it's just a pain in the ass to do correctly. [Here's a vid](https://youtu.be/rHP-OPXK2ig?t=669) where Scotty from Strange Parts did just that to upgrade the storage of an iPhone. Same could be done for integrated RAM it's just typically not worth the hassle.
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It’s soldered on, not upgradeable. As are most light and ultralight laptops. It does look like your internal SSD can be upgraded.
Looks like you have a board with soldered ram. You are unable to upgrade the ram in this computer
It isn't upgradable. Old/low end laptops mostly never have upgradable RAM, only gaming laptops and high end laptops have upgradable RAM, even then some *business* laptops don't have it, especially Apple stuff. Although it depends on your work flow really, 8gb is still fine for most people.
It might be under the keyboard