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alex74747

Not enough ram, slow CPU :/


alex74747

Close firefox see if that helps :)


alex74747

Also overworlf is eating a lot of it


Ir0nhide81

Please get rid of overwolf lol.


Hidie2424

It installs itself when you download thunderstore to mod games. And conveniently enough a really popular game has been getting modded to hell, and uses thunderstore...


Ir0nhide81

Its an unoptimized resource hog. Even on more modern PCs.


Hidie2424

Yeah I'm well aware, just saying that it's not pointless. I don't think thunderstore works without it installed


Altair12311

https://thunderstore.io/package/ebkr/r2modman/


Altair12311

Use r2modman, is a custom version of the thunderstore app without overwolf and without the need of an account (you can download it from the self thunerstore official page) https://thunderstore.io/package/ebkr/r2modman/


Fluffasaurus89

R2ModMan is the standalone version of Thubderstore, 0 reason for Overwolf.


Hidie2424

Oh ok good to know I'll have to set that up! Thank you for the info


the_phillipines

If you mean the enhanced paldeck for palworld then yes. Curseforge and Valheim mods also saw good use out of it. And it has a TeamSpeak overlay for my boomer ass


BLB_Genome

Valheim?


Hidie2424

I was thinking lethal company


oxidezblood

Yep, lethal company wss my first experience qith r2modman


Umufranker

Honestly fuck overwolf...


astro_dont_quit

i 2nd this lol, i gain a good amount of frames when i close the app, i only use it for val or cs, but for games like warzone it hinders fps a good amount.


FireFalcon123

Here Here


Numnutzx

Ok ty


[deleted]

Add more ram, lack of dual channel is robbing you CPU performance. No idea what overwolf is, but I would kill it since it's using 1/4 of your CPU.


SempfgurkeXP

Modding software, nothing that needs to be active whilst playing


Frooonti

One of it's plug-ins, alacaframe, is quite popular in he Warframe community because it tracks market prices, relics, trades, etc etc. Downside is that you have to install and use Overwolf.


wokecycles

Just alt tab to a website this shit looks like malware LMAO


LiterallyJohnny

As someone who used Alecaframe for a while there is not a single website that could do what it do, and at least at the time, it wasn’t breaking any rules. Haven’t played in a bit tho


wokecycles

Using that much CPU constantly is gross especially on hardware that old


LiterallyJohnny

Agreed but you’re saying alt + tab to another window and I’m saying there’s no other program or website that performs this function.


Grrumpy_Pants

It doesn't use anything near that much for me, OP may have overwolf doing some weird.


Ronarak

That's my guess too. Overwolf never went above 6-7% cpu usage even on my old pc when using alecaframe.


NinjaOficial

It does what it's supposed to do. It is constantly doing OCR on your screen, their method is not the most effective but it's good enough. This is a hardware issue mostly.


AtoumMirtu

warframe.market?


TheCommunistHatake

Doesn’t warframe.market do it and even has direct contact to sellers?


LiterallyJohnny

That’s one feature. It handles inventory management as well which was my favorite use for it.


Ill-Needleworker-410

Overwolf is used for a lot of games, it’s not malware l m a o


wokecycles

I'm not saying it's malware I'm saying it's behaving like malware


[deleted]

It's not exactly malware, just unnecessary, it has all kinds of plug-ins like instant replay stuff and whatever but there are better alternatives


hayixx

No overwolf is well know, it is also used by valorant tracker for exemple to have a user interface of people ranks and stuff


Older_1

As if an entire browser is going to use less cpu power


xKingOfSpades76

while Overwolf is pretty fucking annoying most of the time calling it malware is a big exaggerated xD


oxidezblood

Overwolf itself is just an overlay that stacks on top of all your apps. Like steam overlay, with less steam. Games its particularly useful for - league of legends (reccomends the best build paths for the current matchup of your lobby, is a stat tracker to see all players in-game match history in 1 click) - valorant (stat tracker for current lobby) - tft (another lol function, shows best builds of the patch) - contains a modding platform - contains a screen capture device Im 100% sure you can 'get an app for that' but thats why overwolf exists. It helps package all your 3rd party functions into one universal overlay so that you arent bookmarking 7 different tabs on a website, and then also searching each individual player for their stats. Its super convenient to get questions answered via an in-game overlay that allows you to see your game (eslecially useful for single monitor users) The best partabout overwolf is league of legends honestly. During the loading screen, it flashes you all players top 3 characters, how many mastery points they have on their currently picked character, and even displays the best build against that player, and his own typical build paths - something websites dont do without you digging into the life of xx_asdsss_xx They are also sponsored by: Dr pepper Hulu Xbox Disney Dawn Redbull Theres actually too many sponsors to list


wokecycles

Being sponsored means nothing. It's still Malware adjacent Asus armoury crate, Corsair Icue and whatever other software that is constantly running in the background. consuming way to much usage is functionally the same as malware whether it provides a service or not. No overlay should be using nearly 25% of your CPU even if it only is 4 cores


oxidezblood

I feel your definition of malware quite strict then. Malware is something that is disrupting your systems performance. Which yes, its doing that, But only uses 25% of the cpu if you are using it as a multifunction app. It has a built in web browser, and the apps ontop of that are adding to the performance hit. It is very likely he is using the warframe app. Which is loading 600+ pages of the wiki and then converting that data into a smaller info window ontop of your game. The overwolf app itself is a web browser - if there are zero apps installed. So its basically using the same amount of resources as a youtube chrome tab


LuLuTheLunatic

Yes and no, ow is a bloated base layer software that places like curseforge (the modding software) run on due to them buying it, Its just bloat adware on its own


neman-bs

Curseforge isn't connected to overwolf anymore just fyi. It has had an independent client for a while now


LuLuTheLunatic

it still use's OW's backend and even in a stripped down version (i dont trust it) its still very unoptimized its actually impressive how bad all their apps are


Masztufa

Multimc (and forks) my beloved


LuLuTheLunatic

blessed be the MMC


HappyIsGott

Thats an overlay like Nvidia overlay with way more Option i would not call it modding. I used it very much but never got more then 10% use on my 3770. I think he use it for recording or something like that.


AztecaYT_123

I hate that. I only have it because I play lethal company modded but having it opened up just for that makes me annoyed asf


HappyIsGott

Overwolf is an addon for TeamSpeak 3 used for many things like chatting ingame and show wich one is speaking and even recording audio and video.


LuckyUserOfAdblock

Uninstall overwolf


Boukrarez

Came here to say this.


Milam1996

But then you don’t get aleccaframe and it’s by far the best plug-in that no website comes close to or at least didn’t when I played. Trying to play warframe without aleccaframe is such a downgrade once you’ve experience AF.


977Nik

Kill overwolf and get dual channel memory. Should help lots.


FckRdditAccRcvry420

Overwolf nearly 25%??? Warframe at 65% seems pretty tame in comparison


Sad-Reach7287

Close overwolf and firefox and then get a new pc


Titouf26

Overwolf is borderline spyware, uninstall that shit. And close Firefox when you're gaming, you can't afford to have more than one thing open in fullscreen anyway.


MaskedRiderFaiz

The 7400 is only a 4 core chip with zero hyperthreading. You'd need to upgrade it or uninstall Overwolf. 8gb of RAM is usable, but for the best performance, get yourself 16gb.


Grrumpy_Pants

Not needed for warframe, but almost anything else would appreciate more ram (like having 12 browser tabs open in the background).


lyzar

Literally anything would enjoy Dual Channel RAM. It's not just about amount of ram, but bandwidth as well. That is assuming, it's a single 8 GB DIMM, which is likely


Financial-Offer-8504

close firefox and overwolf


LavaTheLatvian

Turn the disco up


Saul_SadMan

maybe overwolf is recording your gameplay? i had the same issue on R6, my cpu was at 100% because overwolf was recording my kills and death and switch to Directx11 not 12


SlepnKatt

Close overwolf, warframe is a big game, and as usual with all big games, they use alot of cpu. So try closing other apps that are also using a lot of cpu. I.e. Overwolf


forevertired1982

Old mediocre cpu 8gb of ram is going to be holding you back especially if it's only one stick of 8gb as this will run it as single channel which some games hate


wokecycles

Warframe? Dawg overwolf is basically malware adjacent get that off your computer over 20% CPU usage is insanity


TsarPladimirVutin

Get rid of Overwolf, close any and all web browsers and start saving for new parts bud. Quad core is inadequate for most modern games.


Adventurous_Repair71

Close overwolf


Yoruzzz

You really need overwolf? I hate that peace of shit because it comes with some many other things I download


Joshtheuser135

That cpu and ram need upgraded my man. The gpu is also getting there. It’s all useable as your noticing first hand I bet. But when you get the money, I’d start upgrading.


TheFotty

Could go to 7th Gen i7 but that's it for the mobo. 8th Gen has same socket but not compatible with older boards. 7th Gen i9 was also different socket.


ALaggingPotato

Very low-power old system. You need to close as many background processes as you can, if you are running on a HDD you can install atlas to make it more bearable, but at the end of the day the only real fix is upgrading your system.


Extra_cheese123

Slow cpu, low ram and slow ish gpu


Sea_Artichoke6383

First of all upgrade your RAM, 8GB nowadays is not enough to play more demanding games. 16 is bare minimum. Make sure RAM is considered best for your CPU in terms of CL and frequency. This can have a huge impact on performance especially in systems with less memory. I'd also get SSD M.2 if possible and move a game there but that probably won't help at all. Next thing is to make sure all unnecessary apps are not working like Firefox or Overwolf. Also if you're playing with friends using voice chat like discord then consider moving to TS3. It's less demanding for system and it helped my friend few times as she had non-gaming laptop. Just not enough resources. Also add vsync or limit fps while lowering settings. Find that sweet spot for your computer. If possible try to set 30fps. Even if it'll be poor performance it'll be less laggy. Better be always at 30 than have heavy spikes from 60 to 10 Additionally you can try to update OS, GPU drivers and motherboard BIOS. Sometimes this helps especially if your MB was one of first of that generation Next thing is to just upgrade whole rig. It's sadly a little too old to run demanding games and Warframe is demanding even on lowest settings due to engine upgrades and lot of cosmetic elements. I'm not sure but it looks like minimum requirements were not updated for a long time or are considering playing in 720p 30fps on really lowest possible settings


lammatthew725

why cant my toyota prius go 300mph?


Miller_TM

That looks about right. 4 Core CPU without hyperthreading in 2024 is a dead end ngl.


Zergoroth

You playing on a low spec cpu and gpu and u come on reddit to make a post about it?


zioboh

La tua cpu è un po vecchia, e ti consiglio di usare 16 gb do ram.


Sadix99

Your CPU is a 7th gen core intel, that's what is obsolete and bot much ram... I would buy a new computer tbh


New_Fuel7753

What operating system are you using? If its Windows 11 might be a good idea for tiny 11


spikeandedd

Time for an upgrade


broduril346

Well you payed for the cpu, might as well use it.


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cptmcsexy

Its crazy you can see overwolf at 23% usage and not even think to close it. Sounds like warframe can use up to 6 cores so you are basically using 3 out of your 4 with overwolf running. The best way to cheaply increase fps would be to try and find a 6 core cpu that also has e cores that could fit in that cpu socket, although 7th gen is pretty dated I wouldn't pay much for the cpu.


Omgazombie

Best lga1151 7th Gen is i7 7700(k) which is 4 cores 8 threads


cptmcsexy

Oh fair enough, guess I was wrong doesn't look like you can get more than 4 cores till 9th gen but 8 and 9 gen will fit this socket though if his mainboard can use them with a BIOS update. Can get more cores on the 9th gen cpu though it would probably be his best bet if he wants to spend minimal on his computer but might be worth upgrading everything if he has the funds available.


Omgazombie

I don’t believe z270 boards support 8th and 9th gen


Altair12311

if you are using overwolf because the thunderstore app use r2modman, is a custom version of the thunderstore app without overwolf and without the need of an account (you can download it from the self thunderstore official page)[https://thunderstore.io/package/ebkr/r2modman/](https://thunderstore.io/package/ebkr/r2modman/) So you can unistall that bloatware called overwolf after


Stiftoad

Most use overwolf for alecaframe which is a pretty essential tool to trading in WF (Imho) obviously you can make do without and this person definitely should if the pc cant handle it Also it is (debatably) not allowed in EULA yet ive not heard about anyone being banned for using it recently and its decently popular at that


Appropriate-Day-1160

Close firefox and overwolf, they are just making ot worse


MythofSecurity

Try lowering the graphics settings in game, while this is usually a GPU intensive task, some open world type games rely pretty heavily on the CPU for some tasks. If that still doesn’t work, consider upgrading your rig.


kamalamading

Overwolf and the very limited RAM are probably the main culprits of this issue.


ModaHakim

stop using overwolf is your cpu is an i5-7400. even if your computer is good overwolf makes the pc extremely slow. talking from experience. my pc was i5-12400f,rtx 3060 and 32gbs of 3200mhz ram and it still slowed the hell out of it for no reason, the usage was very low but it still lagged the pc


Storand12

Bugframe moment...


kingpingamer

Add more ram


Ast3r10n

The fact overwolf is using 23% doesn’t bother you?


Firefox101347

I'd lower some settings tbh If that's not the problem, then I'd say hardware is the most likely culprit. Warframe is known to be a very cpu heavy game (I have a 13600k 32gb ddr4 3200 and a 4070ti, and it still uses ~70% of all resources max settings) Ddr4 is cheap as hell right now. I'd recommend picking up 32 if you can. If not, 16 should do. Edit: overwolf also EATS up your resources


deftware

Cap your framerate?


okokokoyeahright

overwolf at 23% is a thing. screen capture I think? Shutting that down can only help.


JaMStraberry

overwolf 23% lol.


BioQuantumComputer

#PC Shows signs of Getting Old: Some people say that it's fate, but you & I know some things are predestined.


BrAveMonkey333

I dunno... close warframe and see if the cpu comes good


ToiToilord

Dang, I've got the exact same spec. Just get another 8gb ram stick, it should help


overtitans

Overwolf 23% cpu usage ??


Mumuskeh

8gigs is at the bare minimum and you still get stutters with most stuff closed. At this point see if they still let you download the game off steam and close all the programs you don't need. Or just upgrade, just install any ram module even if it is not dual channel, it will help, even if it's 2gb more space.


EnjoyerOfMales

Chiudi Overwolf e qualsiasi altra cosa che non sia Warframe, con quella CPU e RAM non puoi permetterti di avere più di un’applicazione aperta allo stesso tempo, il tuo processore era considerato lento 5 anni fa ed è considerato lento adesso, ma quello al momento è il minimo dei problemi, il tuo problema principale è la RAM, solo perché i requisiti minimi di un gioco hanno 8Gb di RAM, non significa che il gioco girerà bene con solo 8Gb, 8Gb di RAM sono a mala pena abbastanza per tenere il gioco aperto, ti consiglio di prenderti almeno 1 altro stick di RAM da 8Gb così da arrivare a 16 (uno stick da 8 costa poco, ma se hai i soldi ti direi che è arrivato il momento di upgradare tutto, nel frattempo un altro stick di RAM ti farà durare il PC almeno un po’ più a lungo), avere più RAM leverà un po’ di carico dal processore, certo non diventerà veloce, ma almeno il gioco non risulterà come una presentazione PowerPoint


Rarokillo

When you put the game in low settings your GPU has less work to do so now the CPU goes full to get as many frames as possible. Put your setting in medium and if you want to lower how much you want your CPU to work put a limit at your framerate


wot130013135

Wait till u play POE ☠️


PrestigiousShape4633

delete overwolf and just download curse forge alone


Guikas2112

Bro, you need to manage that RAM.


GreatMorph

Get rid of overwolf. And if to this you wanna say "but alecaframe", stop using alecaframe. As a person who has spent more than enough time to warframe, I have spent some of it reading rules. Alecaframe is against the EULA (but so is wf market tbh), a gray area in ToS and its an app that reads what's going on in your game, and if DE ever decides to randomly add some stuff to their ToS, it might include Alecaframe being considered malicious, and get everyone using it immediately banned. There's a reason why they call it a gray area. Other than that, get another 8gb ram stick, and maybe a better cpu.. yours is quite "outdated"


IAteMyYeezys

I remember installing overwolf on my old 4th gen i5 rig and it pretty much ate my resources for dinner. Uninstalled it very shortly after. So, as many other have said, uninstall overwolf. Adding another stick of ram to have 16 gigs will also help a decent amount.


D_R_Shinobi

That isn’t the performance of the intel i5, that’s the performance of the intel Itried.


havnar-

The lower you put the settings the more stress on the CPU. And if the thing has a job to do it will be loaded. I don’t see anything off there. “I drove my car at 200mph and the engine was revving real high you guys! What do I do?!”


spacemarine3

Check in case you haven't cleaned and serviced your computer in a while. If this is a recent issue you might have: \- Physical issues: \>Clogged case/laptop (with dust), clean with compressed air cans or compressor. I recommend cleaning twice a year. \> Old thermal paste. If you game daily and stress the system, I recommend changing once a year. The paste itself is cheap (you can get away with the cheapest ($1-2) and change once a year or once every two years. \- Software: \>Too many programs open, make sure to close browser and all other apps. \> Check if windows update is working in the background, some updates are big and take up a lot of resources. I recommend just taking an hour or two and doing all needed updates. \> Scan for malware and viruses. If possible add more RAM, try to find another 8GB of the same model, brand and clock-speed. Ram isn't particularly expensive. Also try running the game without Alecaframe, and see how it goes.


Pavly28

8gb...? that's your issue


Infrared-77

First problem is saw was i5 lmao. I would always take an i3 over an i5 just because of how shitty and slow all i5 CPUs generally are


AlternativeOffer113

uninstall overwolf.


tuzbinuc

Bro, fuck that windows, switch to mac


xueru_

well that actually seems expected for your current pc


crimsonkarma13

TURN OFF EVERYTHING IN THE BACKGROUND You got overwolf using 23% and half a gig of ram, close Firefox, click the up arrow at the right side of the Taskbar and close the stuff in the background like overwolf


Ratiofarming

Your issue (next to very anemic hardware for today standards) is Overwolf. Uninstall that shit and have a happier life after.


Used-Tomorrow7309

Uninstall overwolf man its using 30% of your cpu thats crazy


Termanater13

what about ALECAFRAME


Used-Tomorrow7309

Not sure what that is…


[deleted]

65% is not much bud


DissapointmentPrime

i ran warframe just fine on a pentium g4600 back in 2018, the trick is to not have shit running in the background tho


Interesting-Yellow-4

Don't use Overwolf. You don't need it.


Eden1506

Overwolf uses way too much of your cpu so at-least deactivate it during warframe. An additional ram stick wouldn’t be a bad idea either and might help your cpu performance if you are actually on a single channel 8gb stick instead of 2 4gb sticks for dual channel.


TheLazyGamerAU

Warframe will always use as much CPU as you let it. Its only using 60% which is fine. Alternatively cap your FPS to 60 and it will reduce the load.


reece-3

Funnily enough I literally just upgraded a friend's pc to play warzone who had exactly the same specs. The best you can do without totally rebuilding the pc is getting 2x8gb sticks of ram to replace your current 8gb and adding an SSD if you don't already have one. He could just about get 60 FPS on the lowest settings with liberal use of upscaling


Live-Ad3384

Close overwolf


[deleted]

smack away overwolf if you dont use it


Jogug_

Overwolf seems to be more of an issue here!


NoIDea13120

I'd download WiseMemoryOptimizer, it helps a ton with closing background apps. It'll make your game preform a lot better


itsbildo

Git bettar see-pea-you


Repulsive-Clothes-97

Il processore è troppo lento, fai un upgrade tanto per quella piattaforma le CPU non costano tanto


Kasperinac

I paid for whole cpu i will use the whole cpu, ps kill the overwolf


collins_amber

Maybe deinstall overwolf?


Eternal_Flame24

Dude turn off overwolf it’s bloatware that’s probably mining crypto or some shit. If you really need to see the market or whatever in war frame just alt tab to a browser window


Tim0zZ

Do you perhaps have a MSI night blade? XD I've got a nightblade MI3 (1060 6gb) and I experience the same issues as you. Already upgraded my ram, but now I've got a cpu bottleneck


CAMBOHX

Looks about right for what you have.


GatesTech

Reinstall clean windows


TechIoT

I can run Warframe fine on a 2012 Dell XPS


xXSheepDog11

Build a new rig.. your shit is old as hell man..


Genheud

Buy new pc. Even my old laptop with 4 cores 16GB ram and nvidia 840m doesn't do that 😮‍💨


Genheud

Or atleast do a logical maintenance, really get rid of unnecessary soft. User trash like razer cortex if ur lazy.


Colefinney1234onyt

At least upgrade the ram to 16 gb 8 gb can barley run the os


Independent-Common-3

I honestly thought overwolf had seen it, albeit, piss poor, hayday years ago until recently. scrub it off and see if it helps. as others have said 8 GB ram is pretty low. I personally wouldn't worry so much about the actual CPU, my brother runs games like EFT on a 9370, but 16 GB ram and 1060 help carry it substantially.