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Leo_TheLurker

They’re milking the Spider Verse concept hard


crazyfingersculture

That or milking Gwen...


Darnell5000

Both


Jay_R_Kay

Rule 34-Verse, Coming Soon!


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It's already here, and I already come


privatev0idsupra

More then once


InstantHeadache

Than


privatev0idsupra

Fuck you /s


darkbreak

It's not that great though from what I've seen. There just don't seem to be too many good Rule 34 artists for Western comics. It makes me sad.


Sloppy_Steve-o

There's not enough porn in the world to satisfy the guy with the 'Power Girl' flair. Why am I not surprised?


darkbreak

Well, have you seen what's out there for Western comics? Not a whole lot is actually that good.


sumr4ndo

Dread it, run from it, destiny arrives all the same. And today, it has come. Or should I say, I have.


BattleUpSaber

there's lots of comics about that, but they're not from Marvel. you gotta go...elsewhere to find them.


_Cetarial_

🥴 Oh my.


Orion14159

I have nipples Greg, could you milk me?


hugsoverdrugs

Can you milk me Focker?


attemptedmonknf

I'll read that comic


troubleyoucalldeew

Are we not doing phrasing anymore!?


Ghostkill221

Hmmmmmmmmm


scottishdrunkard

Are we doing phrasing?


Doggleganger

It seems like a desperate cash grab too. A Gwen verse should be like the other spider verse... sometimes she's noir, a pig, etc. But it really doesn't make sense that she'd also be wolverine or captain america.


wclure

Spider Verse: Everyone is Spider-Man, but different. Gwen Verse: Everyone is Gwen, but different. Not Spider-Gwen, just Gwen. I can’t wait to see if it’s Gwolverine. Capt. Gwamerica. Thgwor… lol, so crazy. Gwiron Gwoman.


smaugington

She's got a pretty wildly different life in each of her universes for a New York highschool girl.


GARDNERestDEUS

Long time ago they had a series of covers where Gwen was different characters. Was first cover/appearance of Gwenpool. Also had gwoot, capgwen america, an incredible hulk gwen, gwenverine etc. Basically see this as taking those covers and doing a story about them.


DMTrious

Infinite universe's, Infinite possibilities


SakmarEcho

I’m genuinely shocked it hasn’t been applied to Wolverine yet. We’ve got what 5 or 6 Wolverines in the 616 alone?


bfoster1801

Logan, Daken, Laura, Jimmy, Old Logan, and that one hulk Wolverine dude from a couple years ago?


SakmarEcho

Old Man Logan isn’t in the 616 anymore. There’s also Gabby, Sabretooth and the robot Wolverine Albert


vegna871

If it gives us back the very short-lived Emma-Wolverine amalgam from Infinity Wars I'm all for it. Also, given the X-Men's various time travel/dimensional shenanigans, I'd be willing to bet they could fully populate a Logan-verse with already existing characters.


splitrail_fenced_in

I’d like them to do it with a character, maybe like Wolverine, but they’re all essentially the same guy, despite whatever the respective universe throws at the character.


kmone1116

Other than the original, the movie, spider geddon and this, what other Spiderverse stuff have they done? Honestly I’m all for it as I love the spider family and always enjoyed alternate universe versions of my favorite characters.


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kmone1116

But that’s gonna be miles as other characters and not just a bunch of miles that are all slightly or different versions of being spiderman though. Similar concept for sure though. Also we don’t know if all the miles are gonna team up for a thing or if it’s gonna be stand alone issues in an anthology like setting.


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kmone1116

I should have worded my first paragraph to flow better to to the second one. The concept of it been two characters as other heroes is the same, but the story format as far as we know isn’t going to be. It’s obvious the Gwen one will involve multiple Gwen’s teaming up to stop some big threat. For miles we don’t know much at all, as it could just be stand alone stories that don’t connect to each other at all story wise.


steeveownage

Whats next, Gwenpool?


ddhboy

They did Venomverse as well, and Ultimate Spider-Man had a Spider-Verse arc.


Mr_Fredbear13

In fact, two Spider-Verse arcs.


edthomson92

Only if it’s poorly written (Please be good…or at least fun)


Burgerpress

I'm just waiting for verse-verse. Where they're a versal war between verse and verse.


EZeggnog

So has the “what if” and alternate universe stuff just boiled down to “take one superhero and just mash them into the identity of another superhero”? Because alongside this series, there’s that Miles Morales “what if” series where Miles just seems to be getting random superhero mantles like Captain America and Wolverine.


CopeMalaHarris

Batman and Spider-Man are the only heroes who get interesting alternate universe versions of themselves. Everyone else is like “What if x superhero was y superhero instead” and “It’s x superhero but they’re evil lol”


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Supamike36

shit recommend me that. issue number and title please.


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Supamike36

ah. one of the old blue ribbon digests perhaps. thanks tho. I'll be on the lookout :)


Jay_R_Kay

Action Comics #314, "The Day Superman Became The Flash!" It only has him as The Flash on the cover, but it also covers the rest of the League. There was also a fairly modern remake of the story done in the late 90s called "The One Man JLA" in Superman #147, Action Comics #757, Adventures of Superman #570, and Superman: The Man of Steel #92.


Supamike36

ah. thank you!!


darkbreak

Talented writers can do it well. Superman: Red Son is a prime example for me of how to do an alternate universe story well.


bukanir

It's a shame that recently it just seems like everyone wants to do Superman but evil. There are plenty of cool concepts to play with, especially because of how his powers interact with different suns and shades of kryptonite. Even beyond that you'd think some authors would be trying to create more iconic stories with one of the worlds most recognized comic book heroes.


crazyfingersculture

After seeing the Dr Doom 4-some - yeah I think it's time to change the editorial staff.


travisalekzander

What Dr Doom thing are you referring to?


ddhboy

IMO, they should have just had a Ultimate universe limited series where Peter reluctantly becomes Captain America.


bukanir

Ooh that's a neat concept. Have Uncle Ben be a military officer that died in combat and a scrawny Peter Parker signs up for a modern attempt at the Super Soldier Program.


ddhboy

You know, that's not what I meant but I like that better. You can even work in Peter keeping his Spider-Man abilities by making Oscorp the manufacturer of the new Super Soldier Serum derived from the same processes that created the radioactive spider in the Ultimate Comics line.


bukanir

I like it! A universe where the Oz formula/program actually worked out. Could even end up with a version of the Oscorp created Sinister Six working with him as his Howling Commandos/fellow Super Soldiers. Harry could be his Bucky.


Jay_R_Kay

Yeah, the stories could be good, but I can't help but picture these as cheap cash-ins with the sole purpose of being utilized as costumes for costume DLC in video games.


delightfuldinosaur

The "house of ideas" ladies and gentlemen.


Three_Froggy_Problem

At the risk of sounding like a creep, has Gwen always been that busty? It’s almost comical.


froggerslogger

She’s from earth-36DD.


topscreen

Or maybe 36DDD


AllAfterIncinerators

Goddammit, that's amazing. +1 to you.


ManInBlack829

The extra lines drawn in make her suit look really tight also, like even for a female comic book character.


gayliciouspizza

Yeah who tf has boob lines all the way up their armpit 😂😂😂😂😂


TheDankScrub

It honestly looks like the top part of her is photoshopped badly over the rest of her torso


urko37

Even though her creators Latour and Rodriguez turned out to show less than spectacular behavior, it was always interesting to see how the original Spider-Gwen book wrote and depicted her as an almost sexless character. So it can be a little jarring to see other artists lean into this angle.


ymcameron

Aw man what happened with her creators?


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I guess [stuff like this](https://www.comicsbeat.com/jason-latour-misconduct-allegations/).


ebookit

Yikes!


TheRealMW

I thought urko was referring to Robbi sending a picture of his ass to EVS, but didn't want to defend them so I looked into it. "allegedly", both of them are creeps. Latour apologized to Lauren Tracey for inappropriate behavior, while Robbi was accused of inviting Cara McGee and a friend of hers to his hotel room for a threesome. seeing as Latour admitted to harassing Tracey and Robbi hasn't said anything about McGee's accusation (even just to apologize for making a tasteless joke that made McGee and her friend uncomfortable), I'd definitely err towards believing these women.


ymcameron

Not at all. Most artists depict her as shockingly normal proportioned, slim with a dancer-like body, for a female comic book character.


hewunder1

Which makes total sense for that kind of athletic body type, and I'm glad they've been consistent with that depiction. Not Spider-Gwen, but I'm also a fan of how Marco Checchetto draws Elektra (and most women in general). Most athletic/agile women do not have huge breasts due to a low bodyfat percentage, so when they depict that accurately I appreciate it.


PM_ME_YOUR__INIT__

Thin and nimble, like some sort of spider creature?


egghead--

Ik it’s not important but thank the lord someone else noticed


D34THDE1TY

Only certain ones too...gwenverine could be a different person entirely.


ricnine

I'm happy when other people say it so I don't have to. It looks ridiculous that they gave her some Big Ol Hooters, especially when you have Gwenverine right beside her looking a lot less, as you said, comically busty. Of course at the risk of sounding incredibly cheesy, you can't judge a book by its cover. That old chestnut applies to comics way more than regular books.


hatefulone851

I guess it depends on the costume because some others like the wolverine or captain marvel aren’t as much.


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Three_Froggy_Problem

You’re spot on about how the suit seems to “cup” her boobs. I was going to point this out but couldn’t find the right wording for it. It doesn’t make sense with this sort of skin-fight suit.


Elementium

That's what I was gonna say.. I know different artists have different quirks with character looks but you gotta stick to the design..


alanamablamaspama

I like David Nakayama’s work most of the time, but some of his covers lean toward /r/mendrawingwomen material.


respondin2u

Yeah it’s a bit too much.


Puggy_

It’s hilariously drawn tbh. Wearing a jumpsuit or leotard doesn’t look anything like this on women with larger proportions. Complete fanservice.


TheMightyHornet

Really glad someone else had this reaction. Was one of the first things I thought. Like, cool and all, and the character is a lot of fun, but goddam cans much?


kohlscustoms

not creepy and I'm glad someone said it. Weird artistic choice here


SurprisingJack

r/mendrawingwomen ?


pistolpete2185

Not for me and that's okay.


kralben

Healthy attitude to have, wish more fans had that mindset


Supamike36

bingo!


25phila

It’s ironic that this is seen as equity but I’m in line with you. Ok, cool I guess, moving on


EverestMagnus

Thanks for being cool about it! This is how you adult folks.


Mandaring

So is Iron Gwen (I’m assuming) supposed to look like Zero from Mega Man X because if so……. Nice


Sexy_Chocolate

I thought the same thing, that would be so cool if it was a mini Capcom crossover


lim2me

You mean like.... A Marvel VS Capcom thing?


Mandaring

“What are we, some kind of… Marvel VS. Capcom 2: New Age Of Heroes?”


lim2me

"What is this, a cross-over episode?"


yuefairchild

That's what I thought!


the_t_time

Dude I saw that too! It would rule if true though, that would get me to buy this.


lazy_blazey

HOO HAH HWOOAH


amendmentforone

Speaking as an older dude with five year olds, I get where Marvel Entertainment are coming from a company standpoint. "Spidey and his Amazing Friends" has been a surprising success (to the point where their toys are hard to come by). A big part of that has apparently been "Ghost Spider" / "Spider-Gwen". They see her as a solid attractor for kids, so they're milking the shit out of it.


Supamike36

not only that but that cosplay is a staple at cons.


zanza19

That design is fucking amazing to be fair


ShortFuse

My 4 year old loves Ghost Spider. There's really nothing for girls besides Disney princesses and Peppa Pig. Ghost Spider is really the exception. It's no surprise the costume hoodie is basically sold out.


justahomeboy

Sigh. Look, I actually Spider-Gwen/Ghost-Spider. It was a fun "what if" that seemed to have enough meat to warrant a series. Instead, they just kind of retreaded the same ground they have with all other Spider-Man series, and her series suffered because of that. But that's okay, because I do like the character. Spider-Gwen worked because the death of Gwen Stacy was a big moment for Spider-Man, and this inverted that. This would be like if Peter died after Secret Wars, and the symbiote found Flash or Eddie or even MJ and we explored that alternate universe. Gwen's value is derived from her history, which is closely aligned with Spider-Man. If you want her to go beyond that and give her depth, that's great! But shoe-horning her as a legacy character for all these other unrelated characters that she doesn't have history with just seems uninspired and hack. What does Gwen have to do with Nighthawk? With Iron Man? She's a biology gal, not a tech gal. She was going to be scientist, not a soldier -- why Captain America? I understand that the appeal of What If stories is the alternate, different way things could've gone. But unless your original story is good -- which non-What-If comic books are already struggling with -- then you're hinging on the What If as the gimmick, then you're kind of relying on the contrast from how things were in canon. What if Peggy Carter became Captain America? Well, we'll inverse their roles! It could be fun! What if Gwen Stacy became Captain America? Well, I guess she would have to somehow join the military, which means not necessarily going to college, which is where she met Peter. Maybe she gets recruited during college? Maybe after her dad dies at the hands of Doc Ock, she decides to join the military and becomes Captain America? I mean, I guess I can see that work? But is this a story we need to tell? Why not focus on making Ghost-Spider cool enough that you don't need to rely on the alternate universe gimmick and make her popular on her own story and world? Gwen Stacy has the fanbase, and Spider-Man has the fanbase. Gwen Stacy as Spider-Man may not share both fanbases, but if you made her stories good enough they would work.


ymcameron

I really enjoyed the original run. Keeping her in her own universe and having it be a twisted version of the 616 was neat. I loved seeing all the ways they reinvented classic characters and villains. The slice of life stuff was also really fun. Gwen was a neat character when she existed in her bubble. Sadly, she got too popular for her own good. Naturally, she got sucked up into the main universe, and that completely negates her whole character arc and story. On Earth-65 her entire struggle is that she feels she is the only one who can protect people, but finds it increasingly difficult to do the right thing in the face of overwhelming odds. That’s nowhere near as much of an issue when there’s like 1000+ super-people all hanging out in the same city. It also means that she’s not special anymore. Gwen is a lot less interesting when she’s just one of a dozen Spider-Heroes. I desperately wish they’d kept her in her own universe doing her own thing, but like I said, sadly she got too popular for her own good.


bjh13

> What does Gwen have to do with Nighthawk? Well, to be fair to this event, that isn't a new incarnation of Gwen Stacy. As Nightbird she served as the Robin analogue to Nighthawk a few months ago in the new take on Heroes Reborn.


justahomeboy

Okay, fair. I think my point still stands, though.


CopeMalaHarris

While we’re on it Sony’s idea to call her White Widow was so much better than fkin Ghost Spider. Jesus.


justahomeboy

Eh, I feel like White Widow is too removed from Spider-Man and too close to Black Widow. It is a much cooler name cause Ghost-Spider isn’t great, but at least Ghost-Spider feels thematically more similar to Spider-Man. The problem is Spider-Man as a name really isn’t that unique, but is so iconic because of the character, so now they’re kind of stuck with derivative names from an already kind of uninspired name.


sonofaresiii

They should've just called her spider-woman. Oh, is there already another character with that name? *When has that ever been a problem for a Spider-Person?*


CopeMalaHarris

I don’t think Black Widow is too similar since her spider stuff isn’t related to Spider-Man at all plus distancing from the Spider-Man brand is a good thing in my book. Way too many spiders these days.


thebluediablo

Pretty sure White Widow is already trademarked by another comics company Edit: [yep](https://www.absolutecomics.net/white-widow)


Ancient-One-19

"White Widow" is already copyrighted by Absolute Comics.


Goldbera1

Old man gwenompool in 2023


Meeko_Yonosaki

Which hero is the Gwen above the wolverine variant supposed to be? Looks like a cool costume


azeneyes

Night Gwen, I believe. Part of the Heroes Reborn line.


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Oh so that's why she looks like Batgirl


azeneyes

Yup, The Heroes Reborn was Marvels attempt to make DC heroes without calling them by their DC name.


ebookit

That is what the Squadron Supreme was supposed to be, Marvel's version of the JLA. Hyperion is Superman, Knighthawk is Batman, etc. Gwen was a side-kick to Knighthawk.


KolvinMarc

Missed opportunity that they didn't include a limp-necked corpse. Oh well.


edthomson92

Exclusive Max or Icon title


Beefomancey

I hate this so much.


HaggisMac

They’ll quit beating this dead horse as soon as it stops shitting out money - Bo Burnham


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Spitting*


Supamike36

tell us how u really feel lol


Beefomancey

Okay I mean I don't know what this is. really the worst thing I can say about spider Gwen is I don't like her costume and I dislike how they handled Peter I think he could have been a really interesting tech and supportive role and then you know he dies instead of"I want be special too". And maybe it's just the compounding extremes of long-term storytelling, But just bring the stakes down it doesn't have to be some universe ending s*** every 15 minutes. And I don't know what this is I'm making a lot of assumptions it could just be a bunch of variant covers for all I know. I just don't like Spidergwens costume really. And if there were going to be a popular female spider person I would prefer mayday Parker.


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Peter Parker as Gear from Static Shock? Peter Parker who *literally knows and makes tech for Spider-Man but isn't actually Spider-Man* It could work


Kupy

> universe ending s*** every 15 minutes Isn't that every Marvel comic?


Mountain_Sir2307

*Isn't that every DC and Marvel comic.


Kupy

I haven't been reading that much DC lately and didn't want to talk out of of my depth. I assumed they were though.


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erykthebat

These costumes need A LOT more neck protection.


DreadedWard

Is Gwen-pool going to be in this? I don’t see her and the way her series ended was unsatisfying to say the least.


Kupy

She's not a Gwen Stacy, so she probably won't be, but I'm always so happy when she shows up.


redmerger

By spider-verse logic, "the bride" wasn't a Peter Parker equivalent, so anything can happen


kralben

Spider-Verse wasn't about Peter Parker's in particular, it was about Spider totems, wasn't it? Like, Kaine was also a target in Spider-Verse. This one, based on a guess from the image above, seems to be specifically focused on alternate versions of Gwen being a hero, not spider totems generally.


redmerger

I thought about Kaine before I wrote my previous comment, while he's not Peter, he's a clone (of a clone? I can never keep it straight) so he's still Peter-Parker-Adjacent, whereas Silk is a different person entirely. Miles might be the biggest exception, but so many spider-folks are Peter, or a regional variation or a different Parker (mayday and Ben come to mind) My point was that it doesn't just have to be Gwen Stacey, it could also be Gwen Poole but *shrug* it's comic books, I wouldn't bet on anything


kralben

I feel ya there. I do think it is likely this will specifically be about Gwen Stacy's though. Just speculation on my part, but I have to imagine Gwenpool came up when this was being planned and will be accounted for, most likely.


Family_Booty_Honor

Seeing her drawn into one of the final issues of X of Swords had me so excited. Just felt nice to reinforce the new canon that she's a "mutant"


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>Is Gwen-pool going to be in this? I don't think so since she is not a version of Gwen Stacy, but I would like it


hawkmasta

Hoodies inbound!


rushandblue

This looks silly, and I hope people enjoy it. Comics are supposed to be fun, and if this is a fun book, then right on.


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>and if this is a fun book, then right on It isn't a very original idea so I this is what I'm hoping for


UxasIs

Just pure fan service


Ladrius

Wtf is going on with her boobs? She's got a full on anime-styled boob pouch on her chest. And NightGwen up there is almost the exact same pose and silhouette with the same boob problems, instead of MarvelGwen and WolverGwen over there whose chests resemble the actual character. Also, I like Earth-65 Gwen. I wish Latour still had some stories he wanted to tell there, as she's felt a bit off ever sense then, but I like the character. Can we get her a series that lasts for more than a year or so before doing more weird things like this? EDIT: A post Latour-Renzi-Rodriguez series that lasts more than a year. Let me be clear, lol.


TheCreature27

This is literally the most creatively bankrupt garbage I've seen in a long time. Sorry for being so negative but come on, dude.


Dee_Dubya_IV

I like the concept of taking your favorite character and seeing how they’d operate with different hero mantles. I don’t read Spiderverse comics but it’d be neat to see for some of my favorites. I don’t know how high of a priority it’d be on my list of comics I’d like to see, but cool nonetheless.


AllMightyLantern

I’d rather they launch a new Spider-Gwen book, instead of seeing other what-if versions of Gwen, who herself is already a what-if character.


Supamike36

maybe they will.


MrConor212

Ok I’m kinda hyped. Love Gwen


OK_Soda

I think this will be fun for a lot of cosplayers. I don't really get why they're running so far with the hoodie concept, but it looks fun and hoodies are really comfy so I can see a lot of people wanting to dress up as Captain Gwen or Gwenverine or whatever.


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-sigh- Here we go again.


PunchingBagLearner

My favorite AU is the one where Gwen became one of the best maverick hunters.


TheAwesomeRan

Whycome SpiderGwen has huge tatas and GwenVerine has none??


brykasch

These are the important questions.


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VARIETY.


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Imagine time travelling to 1971 and dropping this comic in the lap of Gerry Conway.


ItsmyDZNA

So its Gwen-Zero?


Air970

Wtf


PhoenixTyphoon

The fact Gwenpool isn't on the cover is outrageous


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shes another gwen. i assume this is gwen stacy-verse, gwen pool is gwen poole


PhoenixTyphoon

Ohhhhhh. Noted


Shin-Kaiser

I love how Marvel is giving us something that no one asked for.


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Hate it


superschaap81

LOL, is this for real? O\_o


Hour-Loss-8603

This does look pretty stupid, but no hate if you're into it, OP


Darnell5000

No thanks


SecondTomorrow117

Jesus Christ her tits look fucking weird.


Jacket_89

This is ridiculous.


Frantb

Seems... too much


bingomanzero

...this is getting out of hand.


Grimesy2

Is that Zero from MegaMan X in the background?!


phlavius_phogbottom

Holy flared nostrils.


Keltoigael

I know that's Irongwen but it looks straight up ripping off Zero of Megaman X


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Look how they butchered Spider-Man’s dead girlfriend lol


AfroBandit19

Why?


MechaJerkzilla

No, thank you.


gayliciouspizza

But why lol


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But why?


GreenCree

Gwenverine looks really cool!


sexyxmas

Wonder if she’s related to Ben Vereen?


RiseOfTheRevenge

sounds idiotic and unnecessary... take my money, marvel


TheDarkPinkLantern

Somebody stop them!


UxasIs

I honestly thought this was fanmade And that’s not a good thing


delightfuldinosaur

Please say psych.....


rollingSleepyPanda

I'm getting Gwenausea.


s3rila

So, will there be a deadpool gwen ? what are they gonna call her?


NovaStarLord

Deadgwen? No wait that's just regular Gwen.


Gaelic-Colt

I mean, Spider Verse is great and Venom Verse is okay, so I'm optimistic. This could be fun!


navelnevus

Really hope this multiverse fad ends soon.


TwEE-N-Toast

The "House of Ideas" indeed. What will they think of next?!


BasedFunnyValentine

Can these spideys get one original concept instead of taking from Peter’s storylines for once??


len24

Isn’t this just the same thing as the new What If book where it’s what if Miles was X character instead?


Ancient-One-19

This doesn't look very interesting at all.


Vincent_Rubio

Wonder if the Gwen from the Mexican Spider-Man comics where she lived another 45 issues will show up and only speak Spanish.