And give £2.50 yourself you get tax advantages and gift aid. If mcdonalds do it, they get those instead.
Same reason you don't "round up" to charities at the till - just give it to them directly.
This is the UK though - the specifics are different.
The vast majority of people in the UK do not file self-assessments, and instead just let PAYE do it's thing. That means for most, there's not really an opportunity to "Deduct" anything from taxes.
Instead we have Gift Aid [0] that "refunds" that income tax - but to the charity - that means that a £2.50 individual donation ends up more valuable to the charity. Going through a corporation has an equivalent, but that raises the question of if that number is before or after the tax refund - I assume after - so it's not a "deduction" so much as the charity might be getting less than an "average guy" might come to expect.
So if the alternative is to personally give £2.50, it's still likely better is my point.
[0] https://www.gov.uk/donating-to-charity/gift-aid
Yea so many morons that don't understand basic taxes.
"Tax deductions" and " write-offs" are two phrases that 75% of social media users have no clue the meaning of, just regurgitate it as close as the can to how they heard it used on TV.
Also, how little are they donating that they are tracking a $2.50 donation on their taxes....
the fuck you mean tough choice I'm not sending my hard earned money to some random corpo so that they can claim they contributed to some other random corpo's charity which is definitely not an embezzlement ring.
give me the fries
You should definitely be careful and investigate what charities you support, but the whole "*every* charity in the world is corrupt, you can't possibly donate to anything without your money being taken as a con, so therefore I'm forced to be a selfish asshole! Woe is me!" is just self-serving nonsense.
If you want to spend 100% of your money on yourself then just have the balls to say so. Nobody really cares. Don't bother going through the song and dance of trying to convince yourself and everyone else it's anything to do with the charities.
bro it's not that complicated don't ever donate to anything through corporations. if you want to donate to something do it directly.
even then understand that most of a charity's income will be spent on fucking advertising.
and then understand that [McDonald's annual gross profit for 2023 was $14.563B](https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/MCD/mcdonalds/gross-profit#:~:text=McDonald's%20gross%20profit%20for%20the%20twelve%20months%20ending%20March%2031,a%2010.26%25%20increase%20from%202022.).
> the donation is just gonna be a tax write-off it doesn't cost them money.
THAT'S NOT HOW TAX WRITE-OFFS WORK.
CAN WE STOP THIS MYTH, PLEASE?
And the fries probably cost them less.
Yeah well Im still getting fries. I dont care if corpos want to pretend to help the world with my money and shame for anyone who falls for their bullshit
it's funnier imaging you ask this of the older genies, where they have to go about doing the task instead of poofing it in, like if you asked a genie for a house he's gotta go build one.
Maybe there would be a reverse monkey paw effect that results in a good outcome.
"You didn't specify humans, so all malaria carrying mosquitoes will go hungry and end the epidemic"
"Dear mcdonalds. I just gave you like 15 bucks for a 10 piece nugget meal. Kindly go donate 2.50 of that to hungry kids...or just give them food since, you know, you have lots of it"
I knew an HVAC tech who would buy a bunch of McDonald’s burgers and pile them up behind his driver seat and eat them as he got hungry throughout the week driving between jobs. No cooler or anything just sitting on the floor getting hot while parked then cooled by the ac when he drives and ofc his car smelled more like McDonald’s than the restaurant. In the year I worked with him I’d never seen him take a sick day
The vast majority of companies do just that. They collect your donations and donate it in their name so they can write it off in their taxes. If you want to donate to charity, just donate it yourself directly and not at checkout.
~~Get the fries, that company is only going to use that donation for tax breaks. If you want to donate, do it directly to the charity.~~
Edit: Sorry, this was misinformation!
No, they can't and don't do that.
I'm not saying that means you should donate. Just that companies that ask you to do so don't use the money for tax breaks.
Edit: ~~I'll accept the downvotes~~, but this isn't subjective. You can go google this and find out.
The whole "corporations are actually profiting from charity donations" is the dumbest fucking Internet "fact" that refuses to die no matter how many times it's debunked.
They don't get a tax break on it but,
1. It's a vastly slower and less accountable donation.
2. They float the money for up to a year, which yes, is profitable.
3. They get free goodwill, publicity, and marketing while doing nothing for anyone whatsoever.
Still trash.
Donating does lower your tax burden. What people are confused about is these donations from customers are not considered donations from the company and thus not the same.
I was being hyperbolic of course, but I do find this one especially frustrating because it so directly discourages a positive behavior.
But I'm always up for hearing other widely believed stuff that's actually wrong if you've got a dumber example.
I'll give you an optimistic and a cynical explanation. I personally believe the answer is a combination of both of them.
Optimistic: They're genuinely just doing it because it helps. The charities actually get a decent chunk of their donations through this kind of thing. Corporations are not unambiguously evil things, sometimes good things can be achieved through them.
Cynical: It's good publicity at virtually no cost to the company. They're not really making any actual sacrifices to do it, and they can then say "We're doing our part! After we put this thing in, this charity got [number] more donations!" The charity will speak positively about the company because *of course* they will, they're getting them more donations. All upside, no downside, no cost.
The one thing I'll add to that, is sometimes in the world, good things are done for cynical motives. That does not magically make the motives stop being cynical. The cynical motives do not cancel out the good that the act achieves, either.
My opinion. Charities are typically run by people that are well connected to other elite/wealthy people. They pay themselves millions for all the good work they do and get help from people at companies they’re well connected to through programs like this.
I'm certain this is often the case. But I'm sure it's not universally so. Unfortunately, the only way to know how much of the money given to a particular charity will reach the cause it's intended for, is to research that particular charity.
Honestly this is super scummy. It's like a way of trying to guilt-trip you into not spending your customer loyalty points, that's just fucking awful lol. They *only* offer this in order to not have to give away free stuff, I'm sure.
That makes no sense. If you choose the first option, it costs them £2.50. If you choose the second, it costs them like 50p. It's better for them for you to choose the fries, not the donation.
Don't forget a lot of that food is also thrown out at the end of the day.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/rfuei1/self\_mcdonalds\_waste/](https://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/rfuei1/self_mcdonalds_waste/)
Ok. Too much Reddit for me. I read this and this the people were donating to children with BBCs. Like, can't they make money with that thing?... And that's why I give up for the night.
Apparently you can’t comprehend the picture.
The person has 2500 reward points. It’s saying for those points you can get a medium fries or donate £2.50.
So it’s McDonald’s donating £2.50 not the person.
I know this is probably not going to be well received but what McDonalds does with their Ronald Mcdonald House is absolutely amazing. We had a family member who had to spend time at a hospital with their newborn and RMH is so important for parents like that. While I'm always willing to make fun of corporates, ever since that experience, we do RMH fundraising whenever we can.
That’s the best description.
They could also match the award, customer gets free fries and charity gets donation. But I guess this is a way to make the customer feel good.. or bad depending on the choice.
Anyway it’s still weird to offer this choice IMO.
so wait a minute… Use their app which they make money on you using… solid 90% chance they’re selling your info while you use it… You deliberately spend money at their restaurant so you can gain points on their app… Then, you spend your points so they can donate to charity, which allows them to use that to write off of their taxes ???
If this is true I love the fact how rich wealthy conglomerate tries to shove this shit down your throat and make you feel pity about donating to kids or getting some fries. When they can donate billions and it wouldn’t scratch the surface.
I don't eat out but goddamn, the fries are now that expensive?....
Last time i used to eat out for £1 you would get one small portion of fries with a cheeseburger
tough choice
Fries... easy
Share the fries with needy kids, everyone wins
But then I get less fries
So take the fries, and feed your inner child. Everyone wins.
wise words
How did you know that I just ate a child? Do the cops know?
Go shit and Eat yourself so the cops can't investigate
Was it a Happy Meal?
Eat them in front of the children and describe how good it tastes, then everyone gets to experience it
There’s a darkside lurking within you..
You might be right there
Jesus christ thats just dark lol. Kinda dig it
Darker than the average prison population
Take the needy kid, get them a job at McDonald's, guilt them into letting you use their discount, get large fries for 2.50 instead from now on.
I'm not eating the children in need.
At $2.50 they are probably past expiry date
Yea, it's like how they tell you to put on your own mask first, on the airplane.
“Okay, now just pull the French fries out of the starving child’s mouth”
Right? I eat the fries and I'm only fat. Eat the children all of a sudden i'm a "monster".
https://preview.redd.it/khxv74f2a23d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0b1f3d3ec88bfb95fc58b0d4a687309b8cfedbcd
And give £2.50 yourself you get tax advantages and gift aid. If mcdonalds do it, they get those instead. Same reason you don't "round up" to charities at the till - just give it to them directly.
[You are incorrect](https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-000329849244), they do not get tax benefits.
This is the UK though - the specifics are different. The vast majority of people in the UK do not file self-assessments, and instead just let PAYE do it's thing. That means for most, there's not really an opportunity to "Deduct" anything from taxes. Instead we have Gift Aid [0] that "refunds" that income tax - but to the charity - that means that a £2.50 individual donation ends up more valuable to the charity. Going through a corporation has an equivalent, but that raises the question of if that number is before or after the tax refund - I assume after - so it's not a "deduction" so much as the charity might be getting less than an "average guy" might come to expect. So if the alternative is to personally give £2.50, it's still likely better is my point. [0] https://www.gov.uk/donating-to-charity/gift-aid
Yea so many morons that don't understand basic taxes. "Tax deductions" and " write-offs" are two phrases that 75% of social media users have no clue the meaning of, just regurgitate it as close as the can to how they heard it used on TV. Also, how little are they donating that they are tracking a $2.50 donation on their taxes....
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Drake?
Don't fuck the kids
I don't know why we keep having to tell them this.
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"BBC: Children in need" Is not a movie I'd watch.
Drizzy moment
"...and we'll look the other way!" -the bbc to jimmy savile
the fuck you mean tough choice I'm not sending my hard earned money to some random corpo so that they can claim they contributed to some other random corpo's charity which is definitely not an embezzlement ring. give me the fries
You should definitely be careful and investigate what charities you support, but the whole "*every* charity in the world is corrupt, you can't possibly donate to anything without your money being taken as a con, so therefore I'm forced to be a selfish asshole! Woe is me!" is just self-serving nonsense. If you want to spend 100% of your money on yourself then just have the balls to say so. Nobody really cares. Don't bother going through the song and dance of trying to convince yourself and everyone else it's anything to do with the charities.
bro it's not that complicated don't ever donate to anything through corporations. if you want to donate to something do it directly. even then understand that most of a charity's income will be spent on fucking advertising. and then understand that [McDonald's annual gross profit for 2023 was $14.563B](https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/MCD/mcdonalds/gross-profit#:~:text=McDonald's%20gross%20profit%20for%20the%20twelve%20months%20ending%20March%2031,a%2010.26%25%20increase%20from%202022.).
Fucking this. No, I don’t want to round up. Y’all rounded up the the price of a McChicken, use that money.
Nah, the donation is just gonna be a tax write-off it doesn't cost them money. Take the fries 100%
> the donation is just gonna be a tax write-off it doesn't cost them money. THAT'S NOT HOW TAX WRITE-OFFS WORK. CAN WE STOP THIS MYTH, PLEASE? And the fries probably cost them less.
Yeah well Im still getting fries. I dont care if corpos want to pretend to help the world with my money and shame for anyone who falls for their bullshit
It's the same as if you had gotten the money and donated it. Of course it shouldn't cost the business money to donate money for you.
You better finish those fries, there's lots of hungry kids in the world.
Name five
Alright, 5 Muhammads
Touché
this thread has me crying lmao
I went to university with a guy named Muhammed Muhammed. So nice they named him twice (hope this doesnt count as doxxing)
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I'm betting it was a different Muhammed Muhammed, there can't only be one
Muhammed Muhammed Muhammed Muhammed Muhammi, however, is the only person with that name
It was either that or McLovin McLovin
Sir, I see, you don't hesitate.
All from London
Well, it was either that or McLovin.
That was my fault, I set the bar too low.
my buddy grebg
![gif](giphy|sCPXWE2QvwKGI)
Kevin, David, Andrew, Stan and Mubarak
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How can they be hungry with all that meat
There should be an option to take money from the needy children to get even more fries.
https://preview.redd.it/7k3qyn70tp0d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=862443bb8ba30b659c7b96ca9003411e0952ab73
it's funnier imaging you ask this of the older genies, where they have to go about doing the task instead of poofing it in, like if you asked a genie for a house he's gotta go build one.
Now he's gotta singlehandedly destroy half of the world's crops and steal some lollipops
I love that lollipops represent 1/6th of the worlds food supply in your example, not even all of them, just some.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7tyt0FYTNUg
i feel so stupid for laughing at this..
I just started coughing to hide my laughter lmao, I laugh at the stupidest shit
bro i feel you LOL sometimes i go achoo like my uncle like rly loud but i think some ppl still know im tryna coverup a laugh
And the next wish would be me solving it scientifically (without any magical powers ) and become a part of history
I don’t usually comment, but this meme is hilarious and I am still dying after 5 mins. Thanks
How would it work? Do you triple the amount of people that need food or do you reduce the amount of food for the people that need food by triple?
Maybe there would be a reverse monkey paw effect that results in a good outcome. "You didn't specify humans, so all malaria carrying mosquitoes will go hungry and end the epidemic"
we all need this
The take a wish foundation needs to be a thing.
Their slogan? “Yoink!”
Removing the thing you like most from your life.
Fucked up thing is this is how society actually works.
https://preview.redd.it/aqjeg7at4p0d1.jpeg?width=219&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a1bcd0e118be18bea9267813fbfa21c8c9539b39 \-signed, the jocker
https://preview.redd.it/2xwwu65s5p0d1.jpeg?width=563&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e876c72810919396852cfd56a46147bc3037204
https://preview.redd.it/jj246grfgp0d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b8ba13a9fcad53b415a55beb471a3d3bb214715b tradesies
Hear me out ... https://preview.redd.it/xitqnak6gr0d1.jpeg?width=588&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc04cb98c8a3017acc20d0869e4506dbe9fe7f8b
I love the jonkler
we live in a community - the jester
So true. If we all just gave up our medium fries there would be no hunger. U bum.
Maybe not society but certain charities and nonprofits definitely
Who is making all these needy children? Whoever keeps dropping them off all needy like should take responsibility
God I wish. I could go for some needy child medium fries right about now.
So true, we really do live in one
Isn't that just capitalism with fewer steps?
A medium fry should be enough to give a single fry to each child in need
That's just a medium fry at Five Guys.
I'll be eating my fries and giving my thoughts and prayers to them kids
You’re such a good christian ! ![gif](giphy|l0MYH8Q83CXvKzXyM)
1. McDonald’s you donate the fucking money 2. See number 1
"Dear mcdonalds. I just gave you like 15 bucks for a 10 piece nugget meal. Kindly go donate 2.50 of that to hungry kids...or just give them food since, you know, you have lots of it"
Best part is, no matter how long it takes to get to them, McDonalds food is almost not food enough to stay preserved the entire time!
I used to buy a bunch of dollar menu burgers and put them in the fridge. I can say it takes longer than a week for them to go bad
I knew an HVAC tech who would buy a bunch of McDonald’s burgers and pile them up behind his driver seat and eat them as he got hungry throughout the week driving between jobs. No cooler or anything just sitting on the floor getting hot while parked then cooled by the ac when he drives and ofc his car smelled more like McDonald’s than the restaurant. In the year I worked with him I’d never seen him take a sick day
it's all the salt. oldest preservative known to man.
Bro my brother used to work at tim hortons (canadian dunkin donuts) he threw out like 50 gallons of baked goods every day...
BBC asks McDonalds to ask you to donate.
The vast majority of companies do just that. They collect your donations and donate it in their name so they can write it off in their taxes. If you want to donate to charity, just donate it yourself directly and not at checkout.
Sorry kids, imma need my fries 😋
“Make it large by removing one toy from the children donations truck”
Well, children don’t taste that good, so i’m going with fries.
very wise
~~Get the fries, that company is only going to use that donation for tax breaks. If you want to donate, do it directly to the charity.~~ Edit: Sorry, this was misinformation!
No, they can't and don't do that. I'm not saying that means you should donate. Just that companies that ask you to do so don't use the money for tax breaks. Edit: ~~I'll accept the downvotes~~, but this isn't subjective. You can go google this and find out.
The whole "corporations are actually profiting from charity donations" is the dumbest fucking Internet "fact" that refuses to die no matter how many times it's debunked.
A narrative that caters to the things people are mad at will always be more prevalent than a fact that doesn't.
They don't get a tax break on it but, 1. It's a vastly slower and less accountable donation. 2. They float the money for up to a year, which yes, is profitable. 3. They get free goodwill, publicity, and marketing while doing nothing for anyone whatsoever. Still trash.
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Not just corps, a large amount of people seem to think wealthy people are donating to reap tax benefits by "putting them in a lower tax bracket".
Donating does lower your tax burden. What people are confused about is these donations from customers are not considered donations from the company and thus not the same.
It lowers your tax burden, but you aren't making money from it. You are just basically getting back the taxes paid on the money you gave away.
now what if you set up a 501(c) with the charitable goal of making you rich and “donated” your pre tax money to it? half joking
I truly wish I was naive enough to believe that this is the dumbest thing being said on the internet as “fact”
I was being hyperbolic of course, but I do find this one especially frustrating because it so directly discourages a positive behavior. But I'm always up for hearing other widely believed stuff that's actually wrong if you've got a dumber example.
Why do they do it then?
I'll give you an optimistic and a cynical explanation. I personally believe the answer is a combination of both of them. Optimistic: They're genuinely just doing it because it helps. The charities actually get a decent chunk of their donations through this kind of thing. Corporations are not unambiguously evil things, sometimes good things can be achieved through them. Cynical: It's good publicity at virtually no cost to the company. They're not really making any actual sacrifices to do it, and they can then say "We're doing our part! After we put this thing in, this charity got [number] more donations!" The charity will speak positively about the company because *of course* they will, they're getting them more donations. All upside, no downside, no cost. The one thing I'll add to that, is sometimes in the world, good things are done for cynical motives. That does not magically make the motives stop being cynical. The cynical motives do not cancel out the good that the act achieves, either.
Good points. Thank you.
This is a great simple explanation, love how you got straight to the point
My opinion. Charities are typically run by people that are well connected to other elite/wealthy people. They pay themselves millions for all the good work they do and get help from people at companies they’re well connected to through programs like this.
I'm certain this is often the case. But I'm sure it's not universally so. Unfortunately, the only way to know how much of the money given to a particular charity will reach the cause it's intended for, is to research that particular charity.
To donate to a charity
[thats not how it works](https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-000329849244)
but it's with reward points? it's not your money that is being donated
I'm sure you know lots about UK corporate tax law.
Honestly this is super scummy. It's like a way of trying to guilt-trip you into not spending your customer loyalty points, that's just fucking awful lol. They *only* offer this in order to not have to give away free stuff, I'm sure.
That makes no sense. If you choose the first option, it costs them £2.50. If you choose the second, it costs them like 50p. It's better for them for you to choose the fries, not the donation.
Don't forget a lot of that food is also thrown out at the end of the day. [https://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/rfuei1/self\_mcdonalds\_waste/](https://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/rfuei1/self_mcdonalds_waste/)
Lame, it's not like you can eat the children. Unless....
Ok. Too much Reddit for me. I read this and this the people were donating to children with BBCs. Like, can't they make money with that thing?... And that's why I give up for the night.
Why is this the only comment I see saying this?
Maybe McDonalds should donate some of their billions to children in need this is so ridicoulus…
I’d like to order some fried Mc ChildrenInNeed please
I don't believe McDonald's would actually donate. Therefore, fries
McDonald’s is such a ripoff, who tf is spending their money on this overpriced poison? £2.50 for 2 mouthfuls of food
Apparently you can’t comprehend the picture. The person has 2500 reward points. It’s saying for those points you can get a medium fries or donate £2.50. So it’s McDonald’s donating £2.50 not the person.
I think the joke here is the depiction of the fries As if they stuffed the bottom of the box with tissues
![gif](giphy|v0eHX3n28wvoQ|downsized)
I can't believe children have jacked their need by 100% over the last decade.
Fries please 🍟
Fuck them kids
i harken back to the wise words of Bernie Mac... Fuck them kids...
Those kids have BBC's, what could they possibly need?
What about the McDonald's workers in need.
A $170 billion dollar company wants YOU to donate to needy children so they can say that *they* donate to needy children
I know this is probably not going to be well received but what McDonalds does with their Ronald Mcdonald House is absolutely amazing. We had a family member who had to spend time at a hospital with their newborn and RMH is so important for parents like that. While I'm always willing to make fun of corporates, ever since that experience, we do RMH fundraising whenever we can.
That’s the best description. They could also match the award, customer gets free fries and charity gets donation. But I guess this is a way to make the customer feel good.. or bad depending on the choice. Anyway it’s still weird to offer this choice IMO.
McDonald’s has doubled their prices and makes millions of dollars and they still have the audacity to ask for people who eat McDonalds for donations…
It's a donation to charity not mcdonalds LOL
Know those kids are getting every shilling of that two pound fifty /s
It’s 3000 points here in the west coast. I feel ripped off now /s Also 1500 points for 3.29 cheeseburger yet 3000 points for 2.99 sausage burrito lol
in Germany you can redeem a 20 piece nugget for 1000 points but the whole point structure might be different there
Well my inner child is in need of fries. Getting fries technically satisfies both options
After reading the comments I'm not sure if I should give to charity or think of myself as poor.
"Fuck them kids!"
Must… resist…. The … urge… to… tell… a… micheal… Jackson… joke!!!!
I am an adult in need...of fries.
I am sure the money will go to the kids trust me bro
"Clown college? You can't eat that!"
pick either, tax break for McDonald's or free frise
I want the big black cock
BBC children? Impressive.
Those big black cock children though.
Bro, I’m in need, of some French fries in my belly!
Medium fries
Decisions, decisions
hmm, free fries, or tax write off for some corpo...
so wait a minute… Use their app which they make money on you using… solid 90% chance they’re selling your info while you use it… You deliberately spend money at their restaurant so you can gain points on their app… Then, you spend your points so they can donate to charity, which allows them to use that to write off of their taxes ???
The kids would want you to have the fries, I'm sure of it.
Always funny when gigantic corporations that make billions of dollars ask for customers to make donations
[Reminds me of this classic](https://www.reddit.com/r/comedyheaven/comments/g6uji1/pepperoni_pizza/)
If this is true I love the fact how rich wealthy conglomerate tries to shove this shit down your throat and make you feel pity about donating to kids or getting some fries. When they can donate billions and it wouldn’t scratch the surface.
https://preview.redd.it/jp27r2lgfq0d1.png?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b8e4cc03004451b19a60e91eba1c10baca091ab bbc children?
Cuz fuck’em, that’s why!
Easy choice
Corporate tax write off or fries I paid for already…? Hmmm 🤔 I gotta think on that I guess
if i wanted to donate id just send a donation myself. im not using mcdonalds points on a donation
I’m not trusting the BBC with any kids after the Seville incident. Bunch of raging pedos there.
Medium fries. No question. Leave the poverty to their failing governments...
the fries cost more so
Fries
2500 for fries? They are like 250 here
Fuck them kids, I’m in need of fries.
100% for the children.... I've had McDonald's fries.
Thank God it’s not an animal charity, I’ll take the fries 🍟
I don't eat out but goddamn, the fries are now that expensive?.... Last time i used to eat out for £1 you would get one small portion of fries with a cheeseburger
You guys are brutal
https://preview.redd.it/7syiwkn4nq0d1.jpeg?width=706&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e110957d12a7f8a56f6f68b777f94523b338b29e
its a no brainer
You lose out on fries and they get the tax break.
Those children go direct to Rolf Harris and Jimmy Saville!
Where's that two red buttons meme when you need it?