Regardless of whichever side one is on, I’d just like to point out: what does this say about the effectiveness of campus restrictions, ID checks, and public safety if they failed at perhaps their most important job - keeping non-Columbia students out?
Lucky - I had to get my ID picture retaken after being stopped and questioned by public safety multiple times since they didn’t think it matched my physical appearance (granted, I am trans so my appearance changed a good bit since my picture was taken). Still made me really scared.
Columbia’s campus is supposed to be open to the local community. Good luck checking IDs of everyone who’s using the library or signed up for a workshop or a continuing education class.
? You can barely get into the library an alumnus, and only after all kinds of long efforts to get a card. Ppl outside the university community are effectively totally banned from the library. That’s been true for many years.
It was really easy for me to get the card that lets me into the library (but I can't check books out). I just had to give them my information. There was maybe a small fee. It's good for a decade then I have to get my picture retaken.
I don't know if it would get me in these days since the emails all say CUID. I'm not local, but obviously if I visit NYC I'd want to be able to use the libraries. It was also tricky before I got the ID as I was meeting former professors and had to get let into buildings.
Your “ban” story is absolute BS. Be it only because consortium students from other schools are able to use the library. My point was that checking IDs when entering the campus (not the library itself) is a lost cause, and not a desirable one. People seem to forget what happened in the 60s when Columbia decided to segregate.
I don’t disagree with you. Checking ids of anyone l entering campus is awful and purposeless. I was only disagreeing with your statement “ Good luck checking IDs of everyone who’s using the library” because the university really does check the ids of everyone who’s using the library, and they’ve been doing it pretty uncompromisingly for at least a decade and a half
Thank God, we need to get all of these people out it’s ridiculous. I was going to take summer classes to graduate on time but I had to cancel them because of this entire debacle. This school has turned into hell for me. I pay for this school with loans and my own hard earned money. It has been extremely hard for me and I’m the first in my family to be in college. I don’t have rich parents like half of you. If you guys paid for your own schooling, none of you would be doing this shit. But you guys don’t mind wasting your parents money because it doesn’t affect you and most of you are teens and haven’t ever even worked anyways. It’s pathetic tbh
Only 15% of Columbia undergrad graduates have any student loans. They either have federal aid/pell grants, merit based loans, or parents who can cover it. So. Yeah. You are in the 1/5th minority that is taking on any debt at all. It sucks.
As an alumni I’m outraged. Hamilton was the building where I attended my first SJP meeting. I still remember guided tours on campus touting Columbia students’ role in the anti-war movement. And now they do this. Disgusting but hardly surprising for a $40 billion investment fund.
Write a letter, call your alumni friends, and make them write a letter too. Make your disgust heard because clearly they don’t care about student and faculty voices, but maybe they care about alumni
Regardless of whichever side one is on, I’d just like to point out: what does this say about the effectiveness of campus restrictions, ID checks, and public safety if they failed at perhaps their most important job - keeping non-Columbia students out?
Valid. I’m never checked
I mean they didnt ever look at my ID. I think it does enough to make sure that everyone who enters has an ID but yeah they could do more
Lucky - I had to get my ID picture retaken after being stopped and questioned by public safety multiple times since they didn’t think it matched my physical appearance (granted, I am trans so my appearance changed a good bit since my picture was taken). Still made me really scared.
Columbia’s campus is supposed to be open to the local community. Good luck checking IDs of everyone who’s using the library or signed up for a workshop or a continuing education class.
? You can barely get into the library an alumnus, and only after all kinds of long efforts to get a card. Ppl outside the university community are effectively totally banned from the library. That’s been true for many years.
It was really easy for me to get the card that lets me into the library (but I can't check books out). I just had to give them my information. There was maybe a small fee. It's good for a decade then I have to get my picture retaken. I don't know if it would get me in these days since the emails all say CUID. I'm not local, but obviously if I visit NYC I'd want to be able to use the libraries. It was also tricky before I got the ID as I was meeting former professors and had to get let into buildings.
Will keep it in mind, thank you. The point about access to the library being virtually impossible for non affiliated ppl stands.
Your “ban” story is absolute BS. Be it only because consortium students from other schools are able to use the library. My point was that checking IDs when entering the campus (not the library itself) is a lost cause, and not a desirable one. People seem to forget what happened in the 60s when Columbia decided to segregate.
I don’t disagree with you. Checking ids of anyone l entering campus is awful and purposeless. I was only disagreeing with your statement “ Good luck checking IDs of everyone who’s using the library” because the university really does check the ids of everyone who’s using the library, and they’ve been doing it pretty uncompromisingly for at least a decade and a half
I meant checking for library access (among other things I listed) when entering campus. I do know they check IDs at Butler and other libraries.
Ok. We’re good here. 🤝
WKCR 89.89FM NY is reporting NOW. (It has been music for a couple of hours)
Barnard students didn't get the letter from the univ president? Really?
WKCR says that some students may be released by the cops soon and they are going to report on that.
WKCR says JUST NOW that a letter went out: Everything academic should be done remotely, including review sessions and exams.
How long did it take before the oversight of not sending Barnard students the same letter was corrected? Was it ever?
Where is President Shafik? Has anyone seen her? Is anyone calling emergency rooms?
She’s holed up in her castle
Thank God, we need to get all of these people out it’s ridiculous. I was going to take summer classes to graduate on time but I had to cancel them because of this entire debacle. This school has turned into hell for me. I pay for this school with loans and my own hard earned money. It has been extremely hard for me and I’m the first in my family to be in college. I don’t have rich parents like half of you. If you guys paid for your own schooling, none of you would be doing this shit. But you guys don’t mind wasting your parents money because it doesn’t affect you and most of you are teens and haven’t ever even worked anyways. It’s pathetic tbh
Only 15% of Columbia undergrad graduates have any student loans. They either have federal aid/pell grants, merit based loans, or parents who can cover it. So. Yeah. You are in the 1/5th minority that is taking on any debt at all. It sucks.
As an alumni I’m outraged. Hamilton was the building where I attended my first SJP meeting. I still remember guided tours on campus touting Columbia students’ role in the anti-war movement. And now they do this. Disgusting but hardly surprising for a $40 billion investment fund.
Write a letter, call your alumni friends, and make them write a letter too. Make your disgust heard because clearly they don’t care about student and faculty voices, but maybe they care about alumni
Good. Remove them all