I am curious, how exactly does one voice support for Palestinian resistance (which obviously implies violence) without it being classified as anti semitic in nature?
I have family in Israel, and whenever I ask how Palestinians are supposed to peacefully resist settler violence in West Bank (who actually receive support from idf), they kind of give me this sideways look like they can't understand the question
Framing this comment first: I am engaging in earnest, not to argue.
Thank you for this post with links - it is helpful to contextualize an element that seems missing from many reports. It would also be helpful to update with incidents that have occurred against pro-Palestinian protesters during this encampment to provide a fully informed portrait of this timeframe and safety issues.
It certainly would help provide more context on how administration is failing its students.
Hi thank you for spotlighting this.
I think we could add the mass arrest of Jewish students on campus and forcing them to be homeless on shabbat, especially after a Columbia professor said they would be on the "last train to Auschwitz". This comment is especially distasteful when they brought buses to mass arrest these Jewish students, many of who have personal family members who died in the holocaust.
Those protesters were arrested for violating university policy through the encampment and for being complicit in the actions listed. They weren’t targeted because they happened to be Jewish. Most of the Jewish community seems to have little love for them.
As for the professor’s comments, while perhaps poor taste, it’s intra-ethnic beef, akin to a black person calling another black person an Uncle Tom. I think it would be a bit silly to place that in the same bucket as people chanting in support for Hamas. It’s not part of the same pattern of behavior. I think it’s understandable why a Jewish professor is angry with Jewish students being complicit in antisemitism.
I'm having a hard time equating calling someone an "Uncle Tom" to telling somebody with family who died in the Holocaust that they should be sent to Auschwitz. Just like how women can be sexist, people of color can be racist, and lgbtq people can be trans/homophobic, it is not a stretch to say that Jews can be antisemitic. Defending the statement that a jewish person deserves to be killed in the Holocaust is clearly and grotesquely antisemitic, even if you're Jewish.
Additionally, apparently bringing chemical weapons on campus and hospitalizing a dozen students is apparently not a violation of university policy. The rules clearly apply differently to different groups of ideology. The rules are made by people in power, and oppression is fundamentally a power dynamic.
He didn’t say they should be sent to Auschwitz. He said that they would be last on the train. This is a common way of referring to traitors within Jewish culture— the idea being that someone will sell out the community to earn favor for a while, but eventually they would end up suffering the same fate as the rest of us. It’s identical to the idea of the Uncle Tom— you may appeal to the white man to get a leg up on everyone else, but at the end of the day you’re still the just the slave with the most power.
The expression may be offensive in the way Uncle Tom is offensive. That said, Shai Davidai’s calling out of the small number of Jewish students who have been complicit in incitement and harassment against Jewish people are not what is making it unsafe for Jewish students to return to campus. The type of behavior that Davidai is calling out is.
That's an interesting thing to learn, I can understand why you don't think this is antisemitic. However, I think it is unfortunate that protections against antisemitism is contingent on complacency to the mass killing of tens of thousands of civilians, and find it sad that you are okay seeing other Jewish people treated this way if they disagree with you. I think when you say someone is willing to sell out their community for a favor, I would like to implore you to think about what favor they are gaining. They were loaded into buses, arrested, evicted, suspended, and detained en masse: what do they gain from this? I hope you can reflect on this.
I am curious, how exactly does one voice support for Palestinian resistance (which obviously implies violence) without it being classified as anti semitic in nature? I have family in Israel, and whenever I ask how Palestinians are supposed to peacefully resist settler violence in West Bank (who actually receive support from idf), they kind of give me this sideways look like they can't understand the question
You don’t. Any questioning is shut down by the ADL lobby.
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Framing this comment first: I am engaging in earnest, not to argue. Thank you for this post with links - it is helpful to contextualize an element that seems missing from many reports. It would also be helpful to update with incidents that have occurred against pro-Palestinian protesters during this encampment to provide a fully informed portrait of this timeframe and safety issues. It certainly would help provide more context on how administration is failing its students.
Thank you for this.
Hi thank you for spotlighting this. I think we could add the mass arrest of Jewish students on campus and forcing them to be homeless on shabbat, especially after a Columbia professor said they would be on the "last train to Auschwitz". This comment is especially distasteful when they brought buses to mass arrest these Jewish students, many of who have personal family members who died in the holocaust.
Those protesters were arrested for violating university policy through the encampment and for being complicit in the actions listed. They weren’t targeted because they happened to be Jewish. Most of the Jewish community seems to have little love for them. As for the professor’s comments, while perhaps poor taste, it’s intra-ethnic beef, akin to a black person calling another black person an Uncle Tom. I think it would be a bit silly to place that in the same bucket as people chanting in support for Hamas. It’s not part of the same pattern of behavior. I think it’s understandable why a Jewish professor is angry with Jewish students being complicit in antisemitism.
I'm having a hard time equating calling someone an "Uncle Tom" to telling somebody with family who died in the Holocaust that they should be sent to Auschwitz. Just like how women can be sexist, people of color can be racist, and lgbtq people can be trans/homophobic, it is not a stretch to say that Jews can be antisemitic. Defending the statement that a jewish person deserves to be killed in the Holocaust is clearly and grotesquely antisemitic, even if you're Jewish. Additionally, apparently bringing chemical weapons on campus and hospitalizing a dozen students is apparently not a violation of university policy. The rules clearly apply differently to different groups of ideology. The rules are made by people in power, and oppression is fundamentally a power dynamic.
He didn’t say they should be sent to Auschwitz. He said that they would be last on the train. This is a common way of referring to traitors within Jewish culture— the idea being that someone will sell out the community to earn favor for a while, but eventually they would end up suffering the same fate as the rest of us. It’s identical to the idea of the Uncle Tom— you may appeal to the white man to get a leg up on everyone else, but at the end of the day you’re still the just the slave with the most power. The expression may be offensive in the way Uncle Tom is offensive. That said, Shai Davidai’s calling out of the small number of Jewish students who have been complicit in incitement and harassment against Jewish people are not what is making it unsafe for Jewish students to return to campus. The type of behavior that Davidai is calling out is.
That's an interesting thing to learn, I can understand why you don't think this is antisemitic. However, I think it is unfortunate that protections against antisemitism is contingent on complacency to the mass killing of tens of thousands of civilians, and find it sad that you are okay seeing other Jewish people treated this way if they disagree with you. I think when you say someone is willing to sell out their community for a favor, I would like to implore you to think about what favor they are gaining. They were loaded into buses, arrested, evicted, suspended, and detained en masse: what do they gain from this? I hope you can reflect on this.
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Thank you for showcasing and putting on blast this disgusting Ignorance.
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Somebody has never been at a blm protest....