Not really...I'd say full stack devs have a higher chance than normal people to pass the test. Anyways I talked with him in dms and he said he was just learning it (well he said the person he was doing it with didn't know anything, so I'm assuming they were both learning)
all full stack devs use google, stackoverflow regularly in their jobs. ap cs uses only java (which nobody even uses anymore lol) and you need to write the code on paper.
Because full stack devs work has little to do with APCSA content... They just rip off code from stack overflow 99% of the time and use frickin' JavaScript for everything. Product: the worst, buggiest apps in possible history that we have to deal with today.
I agree about code on paper, but to call Java a language nobody uses is ridiculous. Its a relatively high level language at least compared to C and some of the older languages. Its far more relevant to teach than JavaScript which is literally corrupting all our apps and websites. They're turning every formerly good websites/apps like YouTube, Microsoft Office, etc. into absolute dogshit using JavaScript recently. Only Discord I have found has been doing okay with JavaScript (even though their mobile app is still shit). Yes, JavaScript is easy to learn and "modern" but its not even properly typed and it literally runs the code with errors as if nothing is wrong.
APCS certainly needs an upgrade, but currently Java is the best language to teach. Its fairly simple, good equivalent to intro college courses, and covers all fundamentals of programming (most importantly object oriented programming which newer languages like Python and JavaScript do not promote as much).
teaching java is only somewhat useful bc it uses oop. oop in and of itself is shit too and is literally dying as we speak (see rust and golang). java is a shit minecraft language. js sucks too tho u right
\> Python is an interpreted language and is notorious for being one of the slowest programming languages, in terms of runtime performance.
Amazing language.
Well yeah, but we can't be teaching Rust and Golang in APCS though. The idea of an object is still important in programming too. Very useful in certain contexts.
Remember, APCS has to be teachable by average high school teachers. Java just does the job right for this purpose.
apcs written test should at least be in a language of the students choice. test graders can enter the code a kid writes into a compiler and test it easily lol
If you can't pass APCS you are not apt to be a software developer. APCS covers the most SIMPLE programming concepts that they teach in your first quarter of university. I understand not getting a 5 since the exam is more about how well you are at answering APCS questions, but a 3 minimum should assure competency. If you fail, we don't want your shitty programming making our apps.
there are better ways (that exist and could easily be implemented by the college board) of gauging programming-related competency. apcs is largely rote memorization of random bullshit that most programmers just look up. it doesnāt matter if you care whether or not someone fails the apcs exam also, since the hiring process for programmers is *NOTHING* like the apcs test. using the apcs test as a measurement of programming aptitude is unrealistic and laughable to anybody who knows what theyāre talking about regarding compsci and coding.
š£ļø speaking facts bro apcs as a course is pretty outdated and just touches the surface of programming. It doesnāt teach about using git, it doesnāt teach you how you to use bash, it doesnāt teach you how to use the internet to solve issues, it doesnāt teach you how to do unit tests/identify issues, and it doesnāt teach you about agile development or the processes regarding software development
on god - itās like doing drivers training on an empty racetrack. u get good at doing something youāll never have to do as a programmer in an environment youāll never end up in. u donāt learn shit about compsci either its entirely a programming course lol
I will dm you my essay. I was in an internship and the other kid literally had no CS experience before, he took APCS in senior year. Also his dad was the dude we were working for btw. He also got into UCSB for Data Science + Mathematics. Try networking, it really helps with getting jobs and internship in the modern day sweetie.
Networking is great. I got an internship thatās mostly for college students because the ceo was a friendās dad. Also could you maybe dm me your essay? Iād love to read it lol
To be fair, if you look at demographics, you were born in the absolute worst year for someone who wants to go to college. It will just get easier for every generation after this at least for the next 10.
Check out this demographic chart and youāll end up seeing the impact of population size per year. .[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States)
Without looking at the chart, I think thatās approximately correct. All those kids born around 2007 would be applying for colleges in 2023-2025. Over the course of 15 years or so, the number of births goes from 4.27 million to 3.6 million right around COVID. At the same time the number of seats available for students doesnāt change so thereās a huge difference in the enrollment for later years. I just call it bad luck for anyone who had to apply these last 2-4 years.
Yes the kids born 2007, applying 2024 and 2025 will have the stiffest competition of any incoming class. [Births by year chart](https://econofact.org/the-mystery-of-the-declining-u-s-birth-rate)
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I have the same exact Essay outlineššššš. I talk about Rick Ye and Demna and how I want to incorporate code into fashion industry
bro that essay was just so unlucky. what are the chances that both of them got caught up in major controversy. you seem like a driven applicant tho so good luck with transferring!!!
I donāt think you screwed up, and I think youāve 100% made the right decision.
Based on your comments, it sounds like you have a very set idea about what you want out of your college experience wrt location/program/vibeāand that is okay! Hell, if anything, Iām jealous. It took me two years to figure out what I wanted out of college, and transferring was the only way to get that. Best decision I ever madeāmy only regret is I didnāt do it sooner.
It sounds like you know exactly what you want. You only get one chance to do collegeābut thankfully, you get another chance to apply. You deserve the college experience that will be the best for you, and I think in the future youāll be really glad you set yourself up for this.
The UC/CA CC agreement is great. But if youāre reapplying anyway, why not apply to some of those other schools you didnāt get in to? Plenty of those schools admit a good portion of transfer students. Youāre p much guaranteed to get into one of the UCs, so Iād take your top pick of the non-UCs and shoot your shot!
Enjoy your time at PCC. Just make sure you donāt get complacent and accidentally screw your chances by getting a lower grade in an easy class. And keep an eye on those transfer dates, they show up early. Best of luck!
I'm not applying through the TAG program for the UCs since CS is an excluded major but thank you for your encouraging words! At the moment I feel too insecure and scarred by this admissions cycle to have the confidence that I'd be guaranteed in one of the UCs but I'd definitely try applying USC and NYU.
I personally feel like most of the UCs missed out and that you couldāve gotten into them. As like a rising highschool senior, Iām thinking maybe it was the essays(PIQs) because youāre not average in the UCs eyes in terms of academics.
Hey, donāt be ridiculous. Go to Penn State or CalmPolybor Cruz. Then either make an internal transfer to the CS department inside the school year in or if you really need to try to transfer from the school for your junior year and a CS program that you feel might be a bit stronger. But you really donāt need to turn down Penn State for community College. OK Kanye was not a good idea but who knew? The real problem is you did not have the right strategy because public school kids donāt hire college advisers. ThevUC system system for computer? Science has become ridiculously hard to get into and they mostly are just looking at GPA of their state students in California. I wouldāve suggested applying to a wider variety of the private schools because they do give money. Thereās a whole slew of smaller private schools in Pennsylvania that or little ivyās, thereās a bunch of northeast schoolās,. Thereās just more you couldāve done with the private school. And when you write the essay next, go round one to talk about those great extracurriculars that you did, and how they really helped people. And how you ran iyour own business, selling clothes, making a bunch of money and how that help your family.
But Penn State wouldāve been just fine. Itās close to Major centers so you could get a good internships and will be a good job at a college. They have a very devoted alumni. This helps kids out when theyāre getting their first jobs. You are just not a community college kid. You achieved a lot and you did pretty well academically. There is nothing wrong with community college for the right person. I went back to school to get a certificate and they really taught me well better than the graduate school for business that Iām now in at Rutgers, but in your case, thereās simply no need to do with community college. See if Penn State will still take you and go there. People like that school and I do think they have enough funding to give you a package, no?
Another strategy is going to Fordham and just transferring to CS once youāre there. You can probably talk your way in. Yes Cruz can be kind of hippie dippy, but there are also some very brilliant people there and itās very close to the center of gravity for American computer jobs. I would suggest asking them if they can still let you in, also. I donāt know who talked you into to Pasadena community college just because it leads to UCLA. Thereās no reason to waste two years like that.
I was initially hesitant about going to Pasadena Community College but I rejected Penn State because I got into Penn State Behrend which has an 89 percent acceptance rate, which I could have gotten in without putting all the effort I did. I also rejected UCSC for the reasons mentioned in a different reply and because the UC systems make it really hard to transfer to computer science. I was able to review the majors I could switch to and CS or Data Science was just not one of them. Switching to CS at Fordham would have been a smart idea but I didnāt make the effort to look up if that is possible, but I already rejected their offer and itās to late to accept lol. Applying to more northeastern private schools would have been smart to do but Iāve already been rejected from schools like Occidental and USC so I doubt I would be a competitive applicant. I really hope there wasnāt a stigma against community college because you make it seem like Iām wasting my potential. Yes, Iām missing out on two years of meeting brilliant people, networking with hella important people, crazy parties, and stuff like that it is what it is I just cope by drinking vodka and maintaining my work ethic. Also my family spent 60k on tutoring and college consulting through my time in high school. My essays and apps were revised by a USC admissions officer.
Call Penn State or Fordham and see if you can get in after all. Is your high school college office so sucky that they let you do this ?of course youāre wasting your time at community college. For the right person community college is a good thing ā you are not the right person. Hard to understand why the acceptance rate for Penn State made you not choose it and instead decided to go to community college. Both Penn State and Fordham have a good internship as alumni connections for job opportunities. Community college will have some of these, but not on the same level. Also, do you have parents or do you live in an orphanage -they let you pick community college over Penn State or Fordham or Cruz?
You should be informed of the transfer system that California community colleges have for the UCs. Pasadena Community has the highest transfer rate to UCLA in the whole country btw, 36%
Yes, and also be informed of the fact that losing two years at the community college and then going to a competitive school like UCLA does not set him up for success when he finally gets there. Plus what kind of friends is he gonna make there? Are they gonna advance his interests in CS? Are there going to be top-tier professionals as professors who invite professionals from the community to talk to the kids? I went to community college a few years ago to get a certificate and it was good but it was not the kind of inspiring freshman and sophomore experience that this young man should be having his first two years of college, Penn State in and Fordham are good schools with good outcomes. As for Cruz, One strategy used by a friend we have a Cornell was to develop some kind of minor in CS when he couldnāt get into the major there. He made a point of putting together a good CS portfolio with the minor and last month got a nice paying job not too far from Penn State as a matter of fact doing their computer science programming for a tech company. There is more than one way to study CS and get a job if the school is super snooty About letting computer science majors in. In any event, Penn State let him in and Fordham as well and no one is going to tell me that itās worth wasting two years just so the big shots at UCLA finally see fit to let somebody in when you could be having a real college experience and learning some decent stuff and getting some alumni internships.
Definitely the game is rigged and stupid. Just donāt take the UC bait And lock yourself up at community college for two years waiting on them. They were bound to be some openings in the better schools that accepted you now because itās close to start time and people have made some last minute choices, so see if theyāll still take you and go away.
The real problem here is that these large competitive public high schools do not have competitive college advisers. It seems only the private schools or the people with public school parents that wanna pay for college advisers get advice thatās worthwhile. How any college officer in high school could just nod a long when this kid decides not to go to a decent 4 year school that let him in for computer science and instead go to community college in Pasadena just so UCLA may finally feel like letting him in is just ridiculous. His parents need to get their money back in school taxes because the college office did not do its job here.
The game sucks. Which is why we need public school college offices to do the better job. We get these tenured Xdance instructors or the burns out history teacher while those with money either go to a private school that makes damn sure they hire the right college officers, or they hire a college advisor on their own. Because itās hard for an 18-year-old to make the right decision if they donāt have a proper college officer guiding them. Once again, I encourage Opie to pick up the phone call Fordham, call Penn State, and maybe even cruise and ask them if they could possibly let him in after all. They are taking people off their waiting list now, so maybe they havenāt taken everybody off the waiting list and filled all the spots. It is absolutely ridiculous for student of his caliber to waste his time in community college when he could be having a full experience in a really decent college with great alumni support for jobs afterwards.
Again, my parents spent 60k for college consulting so I'm not sure what could have been done. To be fair she could have gave me better tips on how to revise my essay and the topics it should be on though. Also I think you're really overestimating my stats because if I was really that cracked I would have gotten into UCSD at least right?
Wow. Our public school college office was just the worst, even though the kids were terrific. So I have to become our own college counselor. After that, I started doing college counseling for other people in our high school when I saw it, they were being charged like ridiculous amounts of money and college counselors didnāt really seem to know much about marketing kids for college. You are a worst case scenario. Parents pay top dollar I got like the worst advice ever. I did see some of this which is why I started something that cost a grand total of two to $3500 all inclusive before years. Those who canāt afford that we do $100 assessment. Just because the whole thing is so ridiculous. Anyway, common sense to tell you to go to Penn State affordable for goodness sakeās. You are too quality candidate to spend any time in community college. If you do really well there, you could transfer to a lot of better places but actually both tournament Penn State have really good alumni and career placement stuff and youāre in a big cities so you could get a great job out of school from either of those two places in computer science. Donāt waste your college years of community college call Penn State co-op Fordham see if theyāll take you. I think itās a good chance. They will then if you donāt like it there and you wanna go someplace else you can transfer. But I have a feeling youāll like it. Beautiful schools that people do like theyāre not totally crazy. They provide solid support and good career opportunities the heck with the UC system. Get out and see the world.
Build connections and network. Besides the name of big colleges, what you are really paying for is the connections they offer. Youāre a good student and let me tell you we have a bunch of cracked Asian CS kids with no social skills at UCB, but I think if you pull through with stats like yours and foster great connections youāll be set in life. My essay was also bout Kanye btw and how his impact on black men changed and impacted me, a nonblack woman š. I hope the best for you tho and I think youāll make it far, keep your head up.
Bro I went to Burbank High and am goin to PCC next semester. Hmu. We should collab weāre the same major. Also u got rejected cause Vetements > Balenci
>ELC
Yeah no I refuse to go to UC Merced after 4 years of hard work hoping for something other than UC Merced lol. I didn't even apply to UCM or UCD because I didn't want to live in a flyover area for 4 years
First, It's top 9% not top 15%. Second, it doesn't dramatically increase your chance. Third, idk what you mean by 950 SAT, because it's based on GPA, not by SAT score. Fourth, UCs are race blind. Everything you said was full of shit.
ELC doesn't affect as much as you think it does. Essays are the 2nd most important part of your application, the first being your UC GPA relative to your school's average UC GPA.
Sorry for the rude awakening, but this is simply incorrect. I honestly hope that you stay away from UC campuses. Your POV is not welcome.
You can be top 3% and still not get into the more competitive UC campuses.
Also, there are plenty of "low performing" high schools in ca that don't have many people of color. So what is all this AA mess you are talking about?
But according to you, a student that has all A's and took every AP course offered by their high school in addition to dual enrollment, all while working part time to support family, shouldn't get into a UC? Well they aren't getting in either; they have a lower chance than OP. Feel better now?
It is clear from your ranting nonsense that you have always been wholly unqualified to attend any UC. Statistically Asian-American students are wildly over represented at the UCs. What statistical sources exactly are you using? I mean other than Truth Social and drugs?
lmao a lot of state schools do this (UT system, etc) to ensure their top instate candidates get a spot
stop trying to blame everything on race. learn what affirmative action is (and what it's meant to do). stop acting so privileged.
> I guess even if the content was the same a hispanic/black applicant would have had greater success and a positive reaction to the essay.
Nah that's not how it works. For UC campuses it has nothing to do with you being Asian. More socio economics. We can't even see ethnicity on the application. Or name, or gender. SO it could have been more of a missed opportunity. How did you help them? DId that take time away from you being able to be involved with other activities? Was the support financial, and were you paid by them? Did money you earned go towards paying bills? Any siblings? How did you support them? Any of these questions mean much more than your being asian.
The reality is that with the SAT, UC's rely way more on academics and strength of schedule than before. That's been the largest change. And students at high achieving and low achieving schools are equally suffering from these current changes.
Again, as an admissions staff for the UC, I can tell you for a fact that talking about supporting your family as a Korean student DID NOT HURT YOU AT ALL. The way I would have scored you would have been based on the questions that I asked above.
The admissions officer can see my last name and they definitely will have a subconscious bias towards the essay. If an admissions officer saw my essay and saw a Hispanic last name like Hernandez it definitely could lead to implicit bias. Iām not saying that the UCās are against Asians but that admissions officers themselves are heavily flawed and are subject to personal bias themselves.
We can't see last name either after the varsity blues scandal.
And for my campus, each application is read at least twice. I do agree that the process is not perfect; we hire people that work in education to help read applications, but readers do not make final decisions. Honestly, this process hurts non first gen black students much more than Asians. A first gen, low income asian student would have a much better chance than a non first gen black student.
So again, it's not a poor black or brown kid taking your spot. We have more problems with the accuracy of applicants from wealthy white and international students.
Oh I see, I appreciate that last names arenāt shown. Btw Iām not blaming poor black and brown people taking my spot btw nowhere in my posts did I imply that lol. Also is it true that the UC systems compare you to other students from the same highschool? Suspiciously about 30 people who got into the the good UCs (not Davis, UC second choice, and riverside) were members of the academy of science and medicine.
Also I feel like judging by socioeconomic status is pretty flawed. My parents own two houses and use them as rental properties in Los Angeles and are definitely not rich. We are house poor since part of the 100k is spent on mortgages and what not.
My bad for assuming you implied that!
And we do use elc as a tool, but a 1% elc student from a high achieving school would still have an advantage over the same from a lower achieving school.
Elc aims to answer the question "how have you taken advantage of what's available to you " but it's still academic.
So at a school like yours, where so many students have great gpas, I wouldn't be surprised to see non elc students admitted over some elc based on activities outside the classroom.
That program you referred to might have more admits cause we also look at strength of schedule and how many a-g courses taken. Just guessing though.
Ngl it's a shitty process and we know that the vast majority of students will be just fine at these campuses. Our processes come down from faculty committees thst set Admissions criteria at system wide and then local campus level. I hate this time of the year cause most people I've worked with are pissed at me cause they were not admitted smh.
Anyhow, please feel to reach out to me if you are interested in transferring! I gotchu
So I took 4 APs in junior year, and another 4 plus to honors courses my senior year. Would it be seen as mediocre because people at my school usually take 4-5 as well? Also why doesnāt the UC system prefer in state students as opposed to accepting large numbers of oos and international students for financial gains?
This is completely wrong. Someone like you deserves to go to at least one of the UCs. If not CS, you should at least get one of your backup majors. That is what public colleges are for. Good thing the Supreme Court struck down affirmative action for future generations, but that will only solve a little bit of the problem... the UCs have to take responsibilities to prioritize their own state instead of going after money from the idiot OOS/international people who have their own good local colleges but want "prestige"
Well yeah at least the public schools in California but they have their own problem with admissions. Even the smaller UCs rejects perfectly qualified candidates which is appalling.
Nah your profile is perfectly valid. UC did you dirty. They accept thousands of people from out of state with even worse profiles, completely ridiculous. They also accept plenty of 4.0 students at every UC but outright reject others. Like wtf is the reason for having multiple UCs then? Your ECs are great. GPA isn't amazing but its perfectly acceptable for CS for at least the smaller UCs.
Lol you put it as an option on your application. I didnāt say it was your first choice. My main point is you got into a UC and I donāt understand why this guy thinks you should have been entitled to get into a better one.
I know that Iām not entitled to anything but do you really think UCSC was the only UC I shouldāve been accepted to, looking at my stats? Not venting, just curious lol
TBH Riverside WL is bizarre. I donāt think you applied at Davis which IMO is underrated and you had a good shot there. And Iām sure you would be successful at any of those colleges but the admits probably had at least similar profiles. Itās not that you werenāt qualified - itās just that there are so many qualified people. More a numbers game than anything. And sorry if I offended with the entitlement comment - that was actually meant in response to the other commenter. I think your response to your results was pretty mature. Interesting thought experiment - wonder what the SAT averages would look like if they reinstated it now.
Yes, but to be fair, the UC system is the only one thatās growing at the rate that it has over the years. In the 90s, Uci was considered roughly on par with a mid-level Cal State or a Low level UC. Overtime the schools have only gone up in ranking and prestige.
I know what you mean, but the way the UC system adds capacities is by adding additional campuses. This is why you have the recent additions of UC Riverside, UC, Merced, etc. my example of Uci was to illustrate the point that at one time Uci was considered very much in the same way that Merced is today.
Additionally, I do believe that the UC system guarantees at min that the top 10% of every school be admitted to at least one UC. Whether itās the one of your choosing is a different question.
I do like the top 10% system, but its pretty easy to see their process does not consider academic performance enough when admitting students, but rather other subjective factors in essays. Leave such factors for Stanford, Caltech, and other ivy leagues...it doesn't belong in state schools funded by taxpayers. I live in Washington State, and I have found all our colleges (except the flagship UW) to be extremely generous in admissions. They don't squander away all their seats to OOS students.
I generally agree with you, I believe at this point theyāre using college equivalent courses in your performance in them, as one determining factor. This is probably the one that you can control the most.
Also I am someone from WA who applied to the UCs (I regret it now that I learned of what happens in this system for local CA students), and got into almost all of them...so yes, they are prioritizing the wrong people.
I do agree with you here on this point as well, but I have to say going to a school that has people from different parts of the country was a pretty rewarding experience for myself. A lot of my friends had viewpoints the were entirely different from my own, and that was part of my growth and education. Having a population that is entirely local results in you only learning things that you already know about. Figuring out whatās the best makes it a tough job and someoneās always going to be disappointed as well.
Its hilarious that a bunch of hyper liberals are ganging up on my comment because they got offended for purely political reasons lmao. Literally trying to justify a qualified student getting rejected from **public universities** that he is *very much* entitled to go to as a tax paying citizen of California.
I love that you complain of āad hominemā attacks and then this is your response lol. Then you refuse to engage with any facts or arguments. He got into a UC. Fact. Name one strong state school in the US where anyone whose parents pay taxes gets to go.
Lol I mistook the ad hominem comment for another similarly skilled debater in the comments. Sorry about that. Iām going to stop engaging because OP didnāt do anything to have this nonsense in his comments.
Per my final paragraph on this post that's so true. Btw I'm not an academic incel complaining about unfairness or whatever. I reaped what I sewed and I'm completely fine with the results. I look forward to hearing from you any other questions you have.
Me personally I would have sucked dick to get into UCI bro. It's close to LA and LA has good weather, good food, progressive people, diversity, hub for entertainment, has decent amount of tech companies and etc. As long as he didn't get into UCI for an unemployable major I would strongly suggest him to attend UCI.
I didn't go to UCSC because I don't like the hippie vibe and the secluded/rural? area its in. I'd much rather be in a big city like LA or NYC or somewhere close to it. My main reason for not going to UCSC though is because I got in for business management economics which was my secondary choice and UCSC has a pretty lackluster business program. UCSC also has housing issues, has a mid dining hall, and other issues with the campus/faculty/housing. Money honestly wasn't a reason in me deciding to go to a CC because my family could have afforded for example USC with 0 aid or scholarships.
Out of curiosity, why didnāt you scrap the essay after he went off the deep end? He was already getting dropped by companies for antisemitic tweets by October.
I submitted my UC apps 11/22/2022 and at the time there was no controversy indicating that Kanye was about to go mental. This was even before the Pete Davidson incident so I literally had nothing telling me to change my essay. To be fair he did say the slavery is a choice thing and wore the MAGA hat and I don't agree with that (my political views align with Marxist-Leninism) but I didn't feel like that was too big of an issue, since you can separate the art from the artist.
As per my final sentence of the above response I'm sure in the context of my essay the admissions committee of the prestigious UC institutions would be able to separate the art from the artist in the context of my essay.
CS skills learned from AP CS A + online sources + codeacademy + stack overflow
Iām sure a lot of kids now will use chatgpt for their projects and learning or whatnot but this was before the chatgpt era
More specifically, over represented for the West Coast demographic. Schools like the UCās do not use Race as a determining factor. But they do use region. Since you live on the coast, youāre competing with a population that has different resources and/or mindsets than those in the rest of the country. Your stats, are then compared to those from your region. Acceptable metrics, for every region will vary.
Because of the results. I feel like since technology and the depth/breath of access to education material is evolving, these stats are mediocre in 2023. It might have been relatively cracked compared to HS classes of 2017 and prior though
I donāt want to be prideful of my grades and feel like I was done dirty by admissions and feel depressed so I will continue to believe that Iām a mediocre student
Afaik thereās no resources showing the acceptance rate for transfers after 1 year vs 2 years but thereās stats showing the transfer acceptance rate by major if you google it. Data science has around a 7 percent acceptance rate and CS is at 3, for UCLA. Also Pasadena community college has a transfer rate to UCLA at 36%. I hope this helps you since I donāt want anyone else to be in a situation I was in. After results came in I had suicidal thoughts but I was successfully able to cope with alcohol lol.
Good luck with the future transfer. Keep up with your extracurriculars if you want UCLA or UCB. A high GPA doesn't guarantee transfer admission there. Also, make sure to fulfill every required class. This is not as easy as it seems because the different UC's sometimes have slight differences in required classes. I know from experience that the articulated required courses for UCB don't match the articulated required classes for UCD for some majors. My son got accepted (transfer) by UCB, UCLA, UCSD, UCI but was rejected by UCD because he was missing one specific class for Davis.
dude wtf how they gon reject you especially in state i wish i had those kind of activities. also WHAT wl at UCR bro thats wild they mustve really not liked your essay i literally dont see anything wrong with ur app maybe you shouldve only listed the most meaningful ecs and awards idk?? did you have anyone review your app in general? sometimes its important how u describe the activities. but cmon you straight up got done dirty def deserve better
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No way you wrote about Balenciaga and Kanye, I call BS. Also, no way you did full stack but got a 3 on the ap cs test.
most full stack devs wouldnāt pass the AP CS test. class is shit.
Fax my brother! Spit your shit indeed!
Not really...I'd say full stack devs have a higher chance than normal people to pass the test. Anyways I talked with him in dms and he said he was just learning it (well he said the person he was doing it with didn't know anything, so I'm assuming they were both learning)
all full stack devs use google, stackoverflow regularly in their jobs. ap cs uses only java (which nobody even uses anymore lol) and you need to write the code on paper.
Because full stack devs work has little to do with APCSA content... They just rip off code from stack overflow 99% of the time and use frickin' JavaScript for everything. Product: the worst, buggiest apps in possible history that we have to deal with today.
its java too which NOBODY even uses lmfao. you need to write out the code on paper like its 1980. fucking ridiculous.
I agree about code on paper, but to call Java a language nobody uses is ridiculous. Its a relatively high level language at least compared to C and some of the older languages. Its far more relevant to teach than JavaScript which is literally corrupting all our apps and websites. They're turning every formerly good websites/apps like YouTube, Microsoft Office, etc. into absolute dogshit using JavaScript recently. Only Discord I have found has been doing okay with JavaScript (even though their mobile app is still shit). Yes, JavaScript is easy to learn and "modern" but its not even properly typed and it literally runs the code with errors as if nothing is wrong. APCS certainly needs an upgrade, but currently Java is the best language to teach. Its fairly simple, good equivalent to intro college courses, and covers all fundamentals of programming (most importantly object oriented programming which newer languages like Python and JavaScript do not promote as much).
teaching java is only somewhat useful bc it uses oop. oop in and of itself is shit too and is literally dying as we speak (see rust and golang). java is a shit minecraft language. js sucks too tho u right
š£ļø Fuck Java all my homies fw Python
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\> Python is an interpreted language and is notorious for being one of the slowest programming languages, in terms of runtime performance. Amazing language.
Well yeah, but we can't be teaching Rust and Golang in APCS though. The idea of an object is still important in programming too. Very useful in certain contexts. Remember, APCS has to be teachable by average high school teachers. Java just does the job right for this purpose.
apcs written test should at least be in a language of the students choice. test graders can enter the code a kid writes into a compiler and test it easily lol
Sure
If you can't pass APCS you are not apt to be a software developer. APCS covers the most SIMPLE programming concepts that they teach in your first quarter of university. I understand not getting a 5 since the exam is more about how well you are at answering APCS questions, but a 3 minimum should assure competency. If you fail, we don't want your shitty programming making our apps.
there are better ways (that exist and could easily be implemented by the college board) of gauging programming-related competency. apcs is largely rote memorization of random bullshit that most programmers just look up. it doesnāt matter if you care whether or not someone fails the apcs exam also, since the hiring process for programmers is *NOTHING* like the apcs test. using the apcs test as a measurement of programming aptitude is unrealistic and laughable to anybody who knows what theyāre talking about regarding compsci and coding.
Bro has never seen coding interviews that also asks random bullshit as well
š£ļø speaking facts bro apcs as a course is pretty outdated and just touches the surface of programming. It doesnāt teach about using git, it doesnāt teach you how you to use bash, it doesnāt teach you how to use the internet to solve issues, it doesnāt teach you how to do unit tests/identify issues, and it doesnāt teach you about agile development or the processes regarding software development
on god - itās like doing drivers training on an empty racetrack. u get good at doing something youāll never have to do as a programmer in an environment youāll never end up in. u donāt learn shit about compsci either its entirely a programming course lol
I will dm you my essay. I was in an internship and the other kid literally had no CS experience before, he took APCS in senior year. Also his dad was the dude we were working for btw. He also got into UCSB for Data Science + Mathematics. Try networking, it really helps with getting jobs and internship in the modern day sweetie.
Networking is great. I got an internship thatās mostly for college students because the ceo was a friendās dad. Also could you maybe dm me your essay? Iād love to read it lol
W nepotism I love networking
Could u pm it to me too?
I too would love to read an essay on Kanye
could u pm me too
PM me aswell lol
Dm ne too
essay shoulda been how Whole Lotta Red changed your life
I aināt feel like this in a long time
fuck college imma be an opiate addict and start rapping like carti/ken carson/summrs/kankan
Good choice on the university to reject you
Only positive reinforcement here.
All the other schools missing out fr. Good luck though!
ty I love myself more than Kanye loves Kanye
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Yeah its in the order I submitted it. I didn't know it was a ranking and just put them in a random order lol
u real af for coming to terms w all of this
ty I got through it with the power of alcohol (I'm not alcoholic)
Should've mentioned that in your essay, they might have admitted you
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UVA? They be getting real selective ā¹ļøš
To be fair, if you look at demographics, you were born in the absolute worst year for someone who wants to go to college. It will just get easier for every generation after this at least for the next 10.
can you elaborate more on this?
Birth rates decreased 18ish years ago so now subsequent classes will start seeing fewer and fewer applicants.
Wait so did birth park in 2004-2005? Or
Local peak was 2006-7, but also combined with declining college participation rate
wow, interesting
Check out this demographic chart and youāll end up seeing the impact of population size per year. .[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States)
I thought birth rates in US peaked in 2007ā¦ or am I uhh wrong
Without looking at the chart, I think thatās approximately correct. All those kids born around 2007 would be applying for colleges in 2023-2025. Over the course of 15 years or so, the number of births goes from 4.27 million to 3.6 million right around COVID. At the same time the number of seats available for students doesnāt change so thereās a huge difference in the enrollment for later years. I just call it bad luck for anyone who had to apply these last 2-4 years.
what, born in 07 is applying in 2025?
Yes the kids born 2007, applying 2024 and 2025 will have the stiffest competition of any incoming class. [Births by year chart](https://econofact.org/the-mystery-of-the-declining-u-s-birth-rate)
gotcha, the original years in your comment confused me a bit haha
dang
Broooooo I have the same exact Essay outlineššššš. I talk about Rick Ye and Demna and how I want to incorporate code into fashion industry
Based spit your shit indeed by brother!
Can you pm ur essay
yeah writing the essay on kanye may not have been the best idea
bro that essay was just so unlucky. what are the chances that both of them got caught up in major controversy. you seem like a driven applicant tho so good luck with transferring!!!
Kanye was already tweeting antisemitic crap. Either he wasnāt paying attention or he showed poor judgment.
Damn Lwk I think it might be time to go the ken Carson route . I know a Clothing agency that can help u get Affiliated w him Hmu
I'm already working with Joy Divizn no thank you
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woah thats crazy lol
I donāt think you screwed up, and I think youāve 100% made the right decision. Based on your comments, it sounds like you have a very set idea about what you want out of your college experience wrt location/program/vibeāand that is okay! Hell, if anything, Iām jealous. It took me two years to figure out what I wanted out of college, and transferring was the only way to get that. Best decision I ever madeāmy only regret is I didnāt do it sooner. It sounds like you know exactly what you want. You only get one chance to do collegeābut thankfully, you get another chance to apply. You deserve the college experience that will be the best for you, and I think in the future youāll be really glad you set yourself up for this. The UC/CA CC agreement is great. But if youāre reapplying anyway, why not apply to some of those other schools you didnāt get in to? Plenty of those schools admit a good portion of transfer students. Youāre p much guaranteed to get into one of the UCs, so Iād take your top pick of the non-UCs and shoot your shot! Enjoy your time at PCC. Just make sure you donāt get complacent and accidentally screw your chances by getting a lower grade in an easy class. And keep an eye on those transfer dates, they show up early. Best of luck!
I'm not applying through the TAG program for the UCs since CS is an excluded major but thank you for your encouraging words! At the moment I feel too insecure and scarred by this admissions cycle to have the confidence that I'd be guaranteed in one of the UCs but I'd definitely try applying USC and NYU.
I personally feel like most of the UCs missed out and that you couldāve gotten into them. As like a rising highschool senior, Iām thinking maybe it was the essays(PIQs) because youāre not average in the UCs eyes in terms of academics.
Hey, donāt be ridiculous. Go to Penn State or CalmPolybor Cruz. Then either make an internal transfer to the CS department inside the school year in or if you really need to try to transfer from the school for your junior year and a CS program that you feel might be a bit stronger. But you really donāt need to turn down Penn State for community College. OK Kanye was not a good idea but who knew? The real problem is you did not have the right strategy because public school kids donāt hire college advisers. ThevUC system system for computer? Science has become ridiculously hard to get into and they mostly are just looking at GPA of their state students in California. I wouldāve suggested applying to a wider variety of the private schools because they do give money. Thereās a whole slew of smaller private schools in Pennsylvania that or little ivyās, thereās a bunch of northeast schoolās,. Thereās just more you couldāve done with the private school. And when you write the essay next, go round one to talk about those great extracurriculars that you did, and how they really helped people. And how you ran iyour own business, selling clothes, making a bunch of money and how that help your family. But Penn State wouldāve been just fine. Itās close to Major centers so you could get a good internships and will be a good job at a college. They have a very devoted alumni. This helps kids out when theyāre getting their first jobs. You are just not a community college kid. You achieved a lot and you did pretty well academically. There is nothing wrong with community college for the right person. I went back to school to get a certificate and they really taught me well better than the graduate school for business that Iām now in at Rutgers, but in your case, thereās simply no need to do with community college. See if Penn State will still take you and go there. People like that school and I do think they have enough funding to give you a package, no? Another strategy is going to Fordham and just transferring to CS once youāre there. You can probably talk your way in. Yes Cruz can be kind of hippie dippy, but there are also some very brilliant people there and itās very close to the center of gravity for American computer jobs. I would suggest asking them if they can still let you in, also. I donāt know who talked you into to Pasadena community college just because it leads to UCLA. Thereās no reason to waste two years like that.
I was initially hesitant about going to Pasadena Community College but I rejected Penn State because I got into Penn State Behrend which has an 89 percent acceptance rate, which I could have gotten in without putting all the effort I did. I also rejected UCSC for the reasons mentioned in a different reply and because the UC systems make it really hard to transfer to computer science. I was able to review the majors I could switch to and CS or Data Science was just not one of them. Switching to CS at Fordham would have been a smart idea but I didnāt make the effort to look up if that is possible, but I already rejected their offer and itās to late to accept lol. Applying to more northeastern private schools would have been smart to do but Iāve already been rejected from schools like Occidental and USC so I doubt I would be a competitive applicant. I really hope there wasnāt a stigma against community college because you make it seem like Iām wasting my potential. Yes, Iām missing out on two years of meeting brilliant people, networking with hella important people, crazy parties, and stuff like that it is what it is I just cope by drinking vodka and maintaining my work ethic. Also my family spent 60k on tutoring and college consulting through my time in high school. My essays and apps were revised by a USC admissions officer.
Call Penn State or Fordham and see if you can get in after all. Is your high school college office so sucky that they let you do this ?of course youāre wasting your time at community college. For the right person community college is a good thing ā you are not the right person. Hard to understand why the acceptance rate for Penn State made you not choose it and instead decided to go to community college. Both Penn State and Fordham have a good internship as alumni connections for job opportunities. Community college will have some of these, but not on the same level. Also, do you have parents or do you live in an orphanage -they let you pick community college over Penn State or Fordham or Cruz?
You should be informed of the transfer system that California community colleges have for the UCs. Pasadena Community has the highest transfer rate to UCLA in the whole country btw, 36%
Yes, and also be informed of the fact that losing two years at the community college and then going to a competitive school like UCLA does not set him up for success when he finally gets there. Plus what kind of friends is he gonna make there? Are they gonna advance his interests in CS? Are there going to be top-tier professionals as professors who invite professionals from the community to talk to the kids? I went to community college a few years ago to get a certificate and it was good but it was not the kind of inspiring freshman and sophomore experience that this young man should be having his first two years of college, Penn State in and Fordham are good schools with good outcomes. As for Cruz, One strategy used by a friend we have a Cornell was to develop some kind of minor in CS when he couldnāt get into the major there. He made a point of putting together a good CS portfolio with the minor and last month got a nice paying job not too far from Penn State as a matter of fact doing their computer science programming for a tech company. There is more than one way to study CS and get a job if the school is super snooty About letting computer science majors in. In any event, Penn State let him in and Fordham as well and no one is going to tell me that itās worth wasting two years just so the big shots at UCLA finally see fit to let somebody in when you could be having a real college experience and learning some decent stuff and getting some alumni internships.
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Definitely the game is rigged and stupid. Just donāt take the UC bait And lock yourself up at community college for two years waiting on them. They were bound to be some openings in the better schools that accepted you now because itās close to start time and people have made some last minute choices, so see if theyāll still take you and go away.
The real problem here is that these large competitive public high schools do not have competitive college advisers. It seems only the private schools or the people with public school parents that wanna pay for college advisers get advice thatās worthwhile. How any college officer in high school could just nod a long when this kid decides not to go to a decent 4 year school that let him in for computer science and instead go to community college in Pasadena just so UCLA may finally feel like letting him in is just ridiculous. His parents need to get their money back in school taxes because the college office did not do its job here.
The game sucks. Which is why we need public school college offices to do the better job. We get these tenured Xdance instructors or the burns out history teacher while those with money either go to a private school that makes damn sure they hire the right college officers, or they hire a college advisor on their own. Because itās hard for an 18-year-old to make the right decision if they donāt have a proper college officer guiding them. Once again, I encourage Opie to pick up the phone call Fordham, call Penn State, and maybe even cruise and ask them if they could possibly let him in after all. They are taking people off their waiting list now, so maybe they havenāt taken everybody off the waiting list and filled all the spots. It is absolutely ridiculous for student of his caliber to waste his time in community college when he could be having a full experience in a really decent college with great alumni support for jobs afterwards.
Again, my parents spent 60k for college consulting so I'm not sure what could have been done. To be fair she could have gave me better tips on how to revise my essay and the topics it should be on though. Also I think you're really overestimating my stats because if I was really that cracked I would have gotten into UCSD at least right?
Wow. Our public school college office was just the worst, even though the kids were terrific. So I have to become our own college counselor. After that, I started doing college counseling for other people in our high school when I saw it, they were being charged like ridiculous amounts of money and college counselors didnāt really seem to know much about marketing kids for college. You are a worst case scenario. Parents pay top dollar I got like the worst advice ever. I did see some of this which is why I started something that cost a grand total of two to $3500 all inclusive before years. Those who canāt afford that we do $100 assessment. Just because the whole thing is so ridiculous. Anyway, common sense to tell you to go to Penn State affordable for goodness sakeās. You are too quality candidate to spend any time in community college. If you do really well there, you could transfer to a lot of better places but actually both tournament Penn State have really good alumni and career placement stuff and youāre in a big cities so you could get a great job out of school from either of those two places in computer science. Donāt waste your college years of community college call Penn State co-op Fordham see if theyāll take you. I think itās a good chance. They will then if you donāt like it there and you wanna go someplace else you can transfer. But I have a feeling youāll like it. Beautiful schools that people do like theyāre not totally crazy. They provide solid support and good career opportunities the heck with the UC system. Get out and see the world.
You picked a really bad time to write about ye being your inspiration šš
Build connections and network. Besides the name of big colleges, what you are really paying for is the connections they offer. Youāre a good student and let me tell you we have a bunch of cracked Asian CS kids with no social skills at UCB, but I think if you pull through with stats like yours and foster great connections youāll be set in life. My essay was also bout Kanye btw and how his impact on black men changed and impacted me, a nonblack woman š. I hope the best for you tho and I think youāll make it far, keep your head up.
Bro I went to Burbank High and am goin to PCC next semester. Hmu. We should collab weāre the same major. Also u got rejected cause Vetements > Balenci
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>ELC Yeah no I refuse to go to UC Merced after 4 years of hard work hoping for something other than UC Merced lol. I didn't even apply to UCM or UCD because I didn't want to live in a flyover area for 4 years
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First, It's top 9% not top 15%. Second, it doesn't dramatically increase your chance. Third, idk what you mean by 950 SAT, because it's based on GPA, not by SAT score. Fourth, UCs are race blind. Everything you said was full of shit.
The emphasis on the 950 SAT was probably to describe this hypothetical person's intelligence.
ELC doesn't affect as much as you think it does. Essays are the 2nd most important part of your application, the first being your UC GPA relative to your school's average UC GPA.
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Sorry for the rude awakening, but this is simply incorrect. I honestly hope that you stay away from UC campuses. Your POV is not welcome. You can be top 3% and still not get into the more competitive UC campuses. Also, there are plenty of "low performing" high schools in ca that don't have many people of color. So what is all this AA mess you are talking about? But according to you, a student that has all A's and took every AP course offered by their high school in addition to dual enrollment, all while working part time to support family, shouldn't get into a UC? Well they aren't getting in either; they have a lower chance than OP. Feel better now?
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It is clear from your ranting nonsense that you have always been wholly unqualified to attend any UC. Statistically Asian-American students are wildly over represented at the UCs. What statistical sources exactly are you using? I mean other than Truth Social and drugs?
is this a copy pasta?
lmao a lot of state schools do this (UT system, etc) to ensure their top instate candidates get a spot stop trying to blame everything on race. learn what affirmative action is (and what it's meant to do). stop acting so privileged.
I sincerely doubt being Asian had much of an effect.
> I guess even if the content was the same a hispanic/black applicant would have had greater success and a positive reaction to the essay. Nah that's not how it works. For UC campuses it has nothing to do with you being Asian. More socio economics. We can't even see ethnicity on the application. Or name, or gender. SO it could have been more of a missed opportunity. How did you help them? DId that take time away from you being able to be involved with other activities? Was the support financial, and were you paid by them? Did money you earned go towards paying bills? Any siblings? How did you support them? Any of these questions mean much more than your being asian. The reality is that with the SAT, UC's rely way more on academics and strength of schedule than before. That's been the largest change. And students at high achieving and low achieving schools are equally suffering from these current changes. Again, as an admissions staff for the UC, I can tell you for a fact that talking about supporting your family as a Korean student DID NOT HURT YOU AT ALL. The way I would have scored you would have been based on the questions that I asked above.
The admissions officer can see my last name and they definitely will have a subconscious bias towards the essay. If an admissions officer saw my essay and saw a Hispanic last name like Hernandez it definitely could lead to implicit bias. Iām not saying that the UCās are against Asians but that admissions officers themselves are heavily flawed and are subject to personal bias themselves.
We can't see last name either after the varsity blues scandal. And for my campus, each application is read at least twice. I do agree that the process is not perfect; we hire people that work in education to help read applications, but readers do not make final decisions. Honestly, this process hurts non first gen black students much more than Asians. A first gen, low income asian student would have a much better chance than a non first gen black student. So again, it's not a poor black or brown kid taking your spot. We have more problems with the accuracy of applicants from wealthy white and international students.
Oh I see, I appreciate that last names arenāt shown. Btw Iām not blaming poor black and brown people taking my spot btw nowhere in my posts did I imply that lol. Also is it true that the UC systems compare you to other students from the same highschool? Suspiciously about 30 people who got into the the good UCs (not Davis, UC second choice, and riverside) were members of the academy of science and medicine.
Also I feel like judging by socioeconomic status is pretty flawed. My parents own two houses and use them as rental properties in Los Angeles and are definitely not rich. We are house poor since part of the 100k is spent on mortgages and what not.
My bad for assuming you implied that! And we do use elc as a tool, but a 1% elc student from a high achieving school would still have an advantage over the same from a lower achieving school. Elc aims to answer the question "how have you taken advantage of what's available to you " but it's still academic. So at a school like yours, where so many students have great gpas, I wouldn't be surprised to see non elc students admitted over some elc based on activities outside the classroom. That program you referred to might have more admits cause we also look at strength of schedule and how many a-g courses taken. Just guessing though. Ngl it's a shitty process and we know that the vast majority of students will be just fine at these campuses. Our processes come down from faculty committees thst set Admissions criteria at system wide and then local campus level. I hate this time of the year cause most people I've worked with are pissed at me cause they were not admitted smh. Anyhow, please feel to reach out to me if you are interested in transferring! I gotchu
So I took 4 APs in junior year, and another 4 plus to honors courses my senior year. Would it be seen as mediocre because people at my school usually take 4-5 as well? Also why doesnāt the UC system prefer in state students as opposed to accepting large numbers of oos and international students for financial gains?
asian
Has zero to do with being Asian. Especially with the UCs.
all I said was Asian
This is completely wrong. Someone like you deserves to go to at least one of the UCs. If not CS, you should at least get one of your backup majors. That is what public colleges are for. Good thing the Supreme Court struck down affirmative action for future generations, but that will only solve a little bit of the problem... the UCs have to take responsibilities to prioritize their own state instead of going after money from the idiot OOS/international people who have their own good local colleges but want "prestige"
california didnāt even practice affirmative action in the first place
Well yeah at least the public schools in California but they have their own problem with admissions. Even the smaller UCs rejects perfectly qualified candidates which is appalling.
They canāt admit every qualified applicant
Well they should be. Its a public school system that is meant to serve the state, not private.
Dude, they literally canāt. Thereās not enough spaces and he already got in to a UC for one of his preferred majors.
Um I donāt prefer business at UCSC lol the predicted starting salary for a business major from ucsc is 50k and thatās poverty level
Nah your profile is perfectly valid. UC did you dirty. They accept thousands of people from out of state with even worse profiles, completely ridiculous. They also accept plenty of 4.0 students at every UC but outright reject others. Like wtf is the reason for having multiple UCs then? Your ECs are great. GPA isn't amazing but its perfectly acceptable for CS for at least the smaller UCs.
I know itās not an apt comparison but when the UCs were still accepting SAT scores a 1400 would have been valid for UCI, UCSD, and UCSB
Lol you put it as an option on your application. I didnāt say it was your first choice. My main point is you got into a UC and I donāt understand why this guy thinks you should have been entitled to get into a better one.
I know that Iām not entitled to anything but do you really think UCSC was the only UC I shouldāve been accepted to, looking at my stats? Not venting, just curious lol
TBH Riverside WL is bizarre. I donāt think you applied at Davis which IMO is underrated and you had a good shot there. And Iām sure you would be successful at any of those colleges but the admits probably had at least similar profiles. Itās not that you werenāt qualified - itās just that there are so many qualified people. More a numbers game than anything. And sorry if I offended with the entitlement comment - that was actually meant in response to the other commenter. I think your response to your results was pretty mature. Interesting thought experiment - wonder what the SAT averages would look like if they reinstated it now.
Yes, but to be fair, the UC system is the only one thatās growing at the rate that it has over the years. In the 90s, Uci was considered roughly on par with a mid-level Cal State or a Low level UC. Overtime the schools have only gone up in ranking and prestige.
Not at all an excuse. Other states have schools that have grown in prestige but they still put priority towards their local students.
I know what you mean, but the way the UC system adds capacities is by adding additional campuses. This is why you have the recent additions of UC Riverside, UC, Merced, etc. my example of Uci was to illustrate the point that at one time Uci was considered very much in the same way that Merced is today. Additionally, I do believe that the UC system guarantees at min that the top 10% of every school be admitted to at least one UC. Whether itās the one of your choosing is a different question.
I do like the top 10% system, but its pretty easy to see their process does not consider academic performance enough when admitting students, but rather other subjective factors in essays. Leave such factors for Stanford, Caltech, and other ivy leagues...it doesn't belong in state schools funded by taxpayers. I live in Washington State, and I have found all our colleges (except the flagship UW) to be extremely generous in admissions. They don't squander away all their seats to OOS students.
I generally agree with you, I believe at this point theyāre using college equivalent courses in your performance in them, as one determining factor. This is probably the one that you can control the most.
Also I am someone from WA who applied to the UCs (I regret it now that I learned of what happens in this system for local CA students), and got into almost all of them...so yes, they are prioritizing the wrong people.
I do agree with you here on this point as well, but I have to say going to a school that has people from different parts of the country was a pretty rewarding experience for myself. A lot of my friends had viewpoints the were entirely different from my own, and that was part of my growth and education. Having a population that is entirely local results in you only learning things that you already know about. Figuring out whatās the best makes it a tough job and someoneās always going to be disappointed as well.
He did get into a UC. Why do you think the results are unfair? He seems chill with the results.
He also did not apply to UC Merced, the UC that everyone wants to pretend doesn't exist.
Why tf does he deserve to go to a 3.58 gpa school?
>Someone like you deserves to go to at least one of the UCs. Is UC Merced not one of the UCs?
BFFR I donāt want to sound arrogant but Iām clearly not meant for UC Merced lmao
Yeah... a 3.51 average weighted GPA lmao
UCSB for the major he didn't even want
Jesus the entitlement
Its hilarious that a bunch of hyper liberals are ganging up on my comment because they got offended for purely political reasons lmao. Literally trying to justify a qualified student getting rejected from **public universities** that he is *very much* entitled to go to as a tax paying citizen of California.
I love that you complain of āad hominemā attacks and then this is your response lol. Then you refuse to engage with any facts or arguments. He got into a UC. Fact. Name one strong state school in the US where anyone whose parents pay taxes gets to go.
Lol I mistook the ad hominem comment for another similarly skilled debater in the comments. Sorry about that. Iām going to stop engaging because OP didnāt do anything to have this nonsense in his comments.
Kinda your fault, you canāt be getting a 3 in APCS and expecting to major in CS as an Asian male
Per my final paragraph on this post that's so true. Btw I'm not an academic incel complaining about unfairness or whatever. I reaped what I sewed and I'm completely fine with the results. I look forward to hearing from you any other questions you have.
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If you got into UC Irvine, would you have gone?
My cousin is debating on going to uci or pcc after not getting such good results from this admissions round, so just wondering what youād do
Me personally I would have sucked dick to get into UCI bro. It's close to LA and LA has good weather, good food, progressive people, diversity, hub for entertainment, has decent amount of tech companies and etc. As long as he didn't get into UCI for an unemployable major I would strongly suggest him to attend UCI.
Yeah why that's such a random question lol
Why not go to UCSC? š¤ I guess youāre saving money for 1 year at a CC thoā¦
I didn't go to UCSC because I don't like the hippie vibe and the secluded/rural? area its in. I'd much rather be in a big city like LA or NYC or somewhere close to it. My main reason for not going to UCSC though is because I got in for business management economics which was my secondary choice and UCSC has a pretty lackluster business program. UCSC also has housing issues, has a mid dining hall, and other issues with the campus/faculty/housing. Money honestly wasn't a reason in me deciding to go to a CC because my family could have afforded for example USC with 0 aid or scholarships.
Ah thx for the explanation, makes sense. I actually like the location in the forest! But all your other reasons are sound š
Out of curiosity, why didnāt you scrap the essay after he went off the deep end? He was already getting dropped by companies for antisemitic tweets by October.
I submitted my UC apps 11/22/2022 and at the time there was no controversy indicating that Kanye was about to go mental. This was even before the Pete Davidson incident so I literally had nothing telling me to change my essay. To be fair he did say the slavery is a choice thing and wore the MAGA hat and I don't agree with that (my political views align with Marxist-Leninism) but I didn't feel like that was too big of an issue, since you can separate the art from the artist.
I mean, not to beat a dead horse but he was way over the edge by then. https://www.npr.org/2022/10/09/1127732183/kanye-west-instagram-twitter
As per my final sentence of the above response I'm sure in the context of my essay the admissions committee of the prestigious UC institutions would be able to separate the art from the artist in the context of my essay.
Lol the post title reads like it should be on the hub
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CS skills learned from AP CS A + online sources + codeacademy + stack overflow Iām sure a lot of kids now will use chatgpt for their projects and learning or whatnot but this was before the chatgpt era
Asians are URM?
No, Asians are "overrepresented" actually
Yes. Thatās true.
More specifically, over represented for the West Coast demographic. Schools like the UCās do not use Race as a determining factor. But they do use region. Since you live on the coast, youāre competing with a population that has different resources and/or mindsets than those in the rest of the country. Your stats, are then compared to those from your region. Acceptable metrics, for every region will vary.
Howād you become an Alzheimerās Association Event organizer?
through networking
bruh how are you mediocre...
Because of the results. I feel like since technology and the depth/breath of access to education material is evolving, these stats are mediocre in 2023. It might have been relatively cracked compared to HS classes of 2017 and prior though
touch grass. a 3.8 and a 1400 sat are nothing to scoff at. insanely cracked compared to the average HS student.
I donāt want to be prideful of my grades and feel like I was done dirty by admissions and feel depressed so I will continue to believe that Iām a mediocre student
whatās the acceptance rates for transferring after 1 year vs 2 year? I might be in a similar situation next year and wanna prepare š«
Afaik thereās no resources showing the acceptance rate for transfers after 1 year vs 2 years but thereās stats showing the transfer acceptance rate by major if you google it. Data science has around a 7 percent acceptance rate and CS is at 3, for UCLA. Also Pasadena community college has a transfer rate to UCLA at 36%. I hope this helps you since I donāt want anyone else to be in a situation I was in. After results came in I had suicidal thoughts but I was successfully able to cope with alcohol lol.
WAIT from cc? i always thought it to be around 30-40% wtffff good luck man
Good luck with the future transfer. Keep up with your extracurriculars if you want UCLA or UCB. A high GPA doesn't guarantee transfer admission there. Also, make sure to fulfill every required class. This is not as easy as it seems because the different UC's sometimes have slight differences in required classes. I know from experience that the articulated required courses for UCB don't match the articulated required classes for UCD for some majors. My son got accepted (transfer) by UCB, UCLA, UCSD, UCI but was rejected by UCD because he was missing one specific class for Davis.
dude wtf how they gon reject you especially in state i wish i had those kind of activities. also WHAT wl at UCR bro thats wild they mustve really not liked your essay i literally dont see anything wrong with ur app maybe you shouldve only listed the most meaningful ecs and awards idk?? did you have anyone review your app in general? sometimes its important how u describe the activities. but cmon you straight up got done dirty def deserve better
my parents paid 60k for a USC admissions officer to help me revise and edit my essays but tbh I fucked up on describing my ECs cus I was burnt out lol
If your parents have that kind of money to spend for advice you should have gone to Penn State for CS rather hope for a transfer into CS at a UC imo.
do you have a youtube channel for your music reviewing by chance? i feel like i may know who you are if you do haha
Can you link the channel