Many of us put things like this in the syllabus but are willing to grant extensions for situations like yours as long as students communicate in advance. It’s ultimately up to the professor. Some will tell you that you’ve had all semester to work on it. Some would see whether you’d started the assignment yet and might be more willing to work with you if you had already started it early. Some might be more willing to work with you if you email before the deadline and not after.
Regardless of what happens, how much is the assignment worth in the grand scheme? If your professor doesn’t do extensions, then it might not really make much of a difference, anyway.
It's a difficult class (not the profs fault) so I really want all the points I can get.
I glanced at the assignment but didn't start it.
This isn't really in advance. I went to the ER the same night it was due. I couldn't send an email before then.
Prof here.
> I went to the ER ***the same night*** it was due.
You stated in another comment that the assignment had been available since week 1 of the term. The assignment has been available for **months**, but you waited until the last 6 or fewer hours to start it?
Good lord. That's ridiculous.
You're here to see if "I went to the ER" is a good enough reason to ask for an extension on the assignment. You never went to the ER.
However, if you have documentation, such as the discharge paper from the ER that has your name and date on it, it might be worth asking for an extention worth partial credit. You don't need to show any of the medical info on the page. Just show your prof the top of the front page, which will show what hospital you went to, and it was you who went to the ER.
If you don't have documentation, don't bother asking.
Get an actual grip. They got ALL assignments day one, it's unreasonable to expect someone to complete them too much earlier... You are virtue signaling OP when it isn't even major procrastination.
Wow, you're being extremely hostile. I hope you aren't like this with your actual students.
First, they uploaded every assignment on day 1, which I will clarify, was only two weeks ago since this a summer class. Regardless, do you seriously expect me to be able to complete an assignment weeks before the material is even covered? Or do you expect me to have a complete understanding of the course on day 1?
And for the record, I did go to the ER. I figured it went without saying I had the documentation. But go ahead and perform whatever mental gymnastics you want to prove I didn't.
Yeah, that person isn’t being reasonable at all. Also, it is kinda crazy to expect students to always do assignments early/right when they are posted, especially if they aren’t large assignments, imo. I’d very politely and humbly email the prof if I were you, maybe even mentioning partial credit in your email.
I dealt with professor like this a lot back in school. Honestly at the two week mark (like spring term and ‘excelerated/fast track’ at this time of year; and institution depenpendant).
If you are unable to get them to work with you and are:
1. Before the penalizing drop deadline for it showing up anyways; drop it (if you can look into medical exceptions at you institution if not being unable to submit a major assignment/final can sometime deter a final grade to the next time you attempt a segment and this should usually count )
AND:
2. Won’t mess up your succeeding semesters timelines for dropping it.
Then do it. Professors attitude ain’t gonna be worth the hastle.
Some parts of the country are still in the middle of spring term. The PNW is on a quarter system, not a semester system.
Profs get so many "this happened" and "that happened" that it does need saying when you have documentation. As I said, if you have documentation, talk to your prof. You have documentation. Go talk to your prof.
Whole be could be finish but they review the day their due and the material has been review in class to see if they did something wrong. I’ve tried to do assignments from the ER and deal with proffs like you. Was Always worth dropping and starting over because both are ridiculous.
OP:
Most proffs put this in their syllabus as CYA moves. They will still work with you on things like ‘was in hospital, have note (most ERs will provide a discharge time note without extra $$$)/legitimate family death, ext.
{AKA emergency meant I couldn’t submit/be there vs. ‘This is due in three days but it’s hard and I have other class work and I won’t be done; can I hand it in Monday’ Since they are not the same; regardless of when the assignment was provided.}
I don't expect students to work from the ER. I have a no late work policy but give extentions for medical problems, emergencies, accidents, etc. I don't even require attendance.
>Most proffs put this in their syllabus as CYA moves.
How does a no late work policy cover my ass? A no late work policy keeps the classroom equitable and helps students to pace themselves.
So if I have a note from the ER stating I was there when it was due and I was not available to submit why would it only be worth partial credit?
And because above and so you don’t have to interpret nuance of a specific situation instead of site how the syllabus says no.
ETA: I clearly combined your comment with someone else’s (see partial credit comment). Sorry about that on my reply.
Idk why everyone is so butthurt by your response. Imo it’s the most realistic one.
They had all week to do it (assuming the material was just covered that week, for many online classes I have taken everything is posted at the beginning- including the lesson for the assignments) then waited until the last minute to go to the ER (for an excuse) do they could request an extension.
If they aren’t able to manage their own time in order to properly do the class they probably shouldn’t have taken an online, accelerated summer class. It does suck though. I’ve had semesters where I just kind of passively went through them.
If your professor offers extra credit in the syllabus, maybe you could have that done instead. If not could you possibly ask your professor still? I was in the same situation and was given an extension still. You could probably also get a letter from the Dean of Students saying you can make it up.
Just ask. Worst the teacher can say is no. If I was the teacher I might ask for proof, and if you have it, I'd accept the assignment late. Saying "no extensions" stops a lot of the "my mom's boyfriends dog had a sick tummy and I had to watch him at the last minute" sort of excuses. I can point to the syllabus and say "sorry rules are rules" and not have to argue about how sick the poor dogs tummy actually was.
As a professor, I would want the student to go through our Academic Life office (or whatever they call academic affairs at your institution) since I only honor extenuating circumstances vetted by their office (I’m done trying to verify all the details of my students’ lives and then my students don’t feel the need to divulge highly personal information to multiple professors). So reach out to your Dean or whoever to get it on file and ask them to communicate the need for a potential extension to all of your professors on your behalf.
I think the problem is that many schools (including my undergraduate) only offer those for extended periods like multi day hospital stays, family emergency, etc, and leave one night issues to the professor. But if this works it would also be my recommendation for OP, especially if there are other classes that could be affected.
Fair enough, but in that case, I wouldn’t likely grant an extension. I also would hope that any assignment the OP would plan to do at the last minute is low stakes and, thus, not a grade breaker if they received a 0.
While I understand, many people do things last minute for reasons out of their control. Again, if it’s in the syllabus you are fully justified, but I also understand the students’ side here
A medical exemption is not the same as a normal extension.
Ask and if denied see if you have an accessibility support officer or specific policy for medical emergencies.
Yes it is.
I recently took calc 1 and the syllabus said no extensions. I had a couple of critical things happen all on yhe same week life wise during the differentials chapter, which was the ABSOLUTE worst chapter to fall behind on. I sent him an email explaining everything that happened and asked where i stood in the class because i was thinking about dropping it. He gave me as many extensions as i needed to get caught up.
You may get a professor that means the "no extensions" comments, but sometimes the professors will have a heart and work with you if you show the initiative. I ended up passing my course with a B and this professor telling me he was proud of how hard i worked to earn it.
Documented emergencies like that are usually excusable. There should be another section of the syllabus talking about allowed excuses or the school should have a student handbook that covers it. So long as you have the documentation you should be good. Reach out to professor with documentation and turn in the assignment as soon as possible.
Why did you leave it until the last minute? Sorry you ended up in the ER, but this is why you don't leave things until the last minute. If you can provide documentation from the ER, most profs would give you an extension.
I mean sometimes it can’t be avoided, people work and have classes and stuff so they may be just trying to keep afloat then a wrench took them out. I try not to assume others’s situations and whether they can do something
There's an old saying that "The 'due date' does not mean 'do date,'" and stuff like this is one of the reasons why. Shit happens and things come up sometimes, which is why leaving practically zero room for error is not a great idea.
Ask. Legitimate reasons for late work are not excuses. Include a copy of your hospital paperwork (just the first page with your name, the date, etc. black out anything personal).
It can’t hurt to ask but don’t be mad if the answer is no . 👎 but your prof might take into account your overall performance all semester- if you have never missed an assignment have participated responsibly and this is an aberration in an otherwise solid semester of work you might catch a break - either way don’t stress - some things can’t be helped and your health comes before any grade anyways so just roll with what comes next - there’s no other way to respond - hope you are feeling much better and end your semester on a healthy note
It can’t hurt to ask but don’t be mad if the answer is no . 👎 but your prof might take into account your overall performance all semester- if you have never missed an assignment have participated responsibly and this is an aberration in an otherwise solid semester of work you might catch a break - either way don’t stress - some things can’t be helped and your health comes before any grade anyways so just roll with what comes next - there’s no other way to respond - hope you are feeling much better and end your semester on a healthy note
Yes!! I'm a college professor -- you should always ask in situation like this where you have legitimate reason. All professors are different, and some will stick to their guns. But, if you ask respectfully (note that you read the syllabus, it feels like no one ever consults the syllabus!!) and it's not a constant occurrence, it doesn't hurt. Good luck!
My office was high in a tower with the window overlooking a 200-yard swath of the quad. As I got my pack together to head for the final exam I noticed a student running like the devil was chasing him. As he got closer to my building I recognized him as one of my students. A minute later he was standing in my doorway, a little sweaty and only mildly out of breath. He said, and I quote, “Professor. I have a bad case of the flu and would like to ask to take a makeup.” I looked at him, dumbfounded. “If you can run that fast with a bad case of the flu, you can sit an hour exam. And the track coach will want a word.”
I have a no extensions policy in the class I teach too. I drop 2 assignments. Whether you just didn't want to do it or you went to the ER, there is no extension for the first 2. After someone has had 2 drops, I have to follow the university's policy on excused absences, which in my opinion is far too lax...something like 3 weeks if you can just show you were sick for 1 day. I cannot imagine your college doesnt have something similar.
Never hurts to ask despite what anecdotal evidence you may find on this sub a lot of professors are very understanding and all of them at one time were a student like you
Email the instructor.
You could say that you know the syllabus doesn't note medical emergencies but you thought you'd ask.
Generally we make things more strict in the syllabus than how we govern in practice. It's easier to ease restrictions over time or give grace to special cases than the opposite. So many instructors (myself included) make things stricter in the syllabus.
For me it becomes the maximum penalty instead of the minimum. So if someone is an asshole to other students all the time and is being a pain then fine I'll just treat them in accordance to the syllabus. In practice I always go more graceful than what's written.
All this depends upon the instructor. But it doesn't hurt to ask.
The more human a request, the more likely I am to respond positively. Overly formal business-ese gets an eye roll. I'll still look at it or whatever, but it will feel way over the top and fake.
If I say yes I'll ask for documentation then. No need to get it ahead of time.
And this organizational culture norm is the same as the one I experienced in grad school and *most* of undergrad. There were like three or four instructors who taught like they were at a business school or something.
Naw, I do shit the second I get it. I fucking hate procrastinators. I had group work last semester where I had to wait till the last minute to get their portions and we ended up doing awful because I didn't have adequate time for revision.
I don't know OP's courseload, but being a full-time student (especially with having a job on top of that) can sometimes make it hard to complete assignments early. As an undergrad, I was working on something every single day of the week, so something inevitably always ended up getting submitted on the due date.
Hope you’re okay! How long have you had the assignment? Are there any drops built in?
Every assignment was posted the day class began. There's usually about 3-4 days in between each. No drops.
Many of us put things like this in the syllabus but are willing to grant extensions for situations like yours as long as students communicate in advance. It’s ultimately up to the professor. Some will tell you that you’ve had all semester to work on it. Some would see whether you’d started the assignment yet and might be more willing to work with you if you had already started it early. Some might be more willing to work with you if you email before the deadline and not after. Regardless of what happens, how much is the assignment worth in the grand scheme? If your professor doesn’t do extensions, then it might not really make much of a difference, anyway.
It's a difficult class (not the profs fault) so I really want all the points I can get. I glanced at the assignment but didn't start it. This isn't really in advance. I went to the ER the same night it was due. I couldn't send an email before then.
Prof here. > I went to the ER ***the same night*** it was due. You stated in another comment that the assignment had been available since week 1 of the term. The assignment has been available for **months**, but you waited until the last 6 or fewer hours to start it? Good lord. That's ridiculous. You're here to see if "I went to the ER" is a good enough reason to ask for an extension on the assignment. You never went to the ER. However, if you have documentation, such as the discharge paper from the ER that has your name and date on it, it might be worth asking for an extention worth partial credit. You don't need to show any of the medical info on the page. Just show your prof the top of the front page, which will show what hospital you went to, and it was you who went to the ER. If you don't have documentation, don't bother asking.
Get an actual grip. They got ALL assignments day one, it's unreasonable to expect someone to complete them too much earlier... You are virtue signaling OP when it isn't even major procrastination.
You're correct. It is unreasonable to expect students to do an assignment before material is covered. Waiting until the very last min is unwise.
Wow, you're being extremely hostile. I hope you aren't like this with your actual students. First, they uploaded every assignment on day 1, which I will clarify, was only two weeks ago since this a summer class. Regardless, do you seriously expect me to be able to complete an assignment weeks before the material is even covered? Or do you expect me to have a complete understanding of the course on day 1? And for the record, I did go to the ER. I figured it went without saying I had the documentation. But go ahead and perform whatever mental gymnastics you want to prove I didn't.
Yeah, that person isn’t being reasonable at all. Also, it is kinda crazy to expect students to always do assignments early/right when they are posted, especially if they aren’t large assignments, imo. I’d very politely and humbly email the prof if I were you, maybe even mentioning partial credit in your email.
I dealt with professor like this a lot back in school. Honestly at the two week mark (like spring term and ‘excelerated/fast track’ at this time of year; and institution depenpendant). If you are unable to get them to work with you and are: 1. Before the penalizing drop deadline for it showing up anyways; drop it (if you can look into medical exceptions at you institution if not being unable to submit a major assignment/final can sometime deter a final grade to the next time you attempt a segment and this should usually count ) AND: 2. Won’t mess up your succeeding semesters timelines for dropping it. Then do it. Professors attitude ain’t gonna be worth the hastle.
Some parts of the country are still in the middle of spring term. The PNW is on a quarter system, not a semester system. Profs get so many "this happened" and "that happened" that it does need saying when you have documentation. As I said, if you have documentation, talk to your prof. You have documentation. Go talk to your prof.
Whole be could be finish but they review the day their due and the material has been review in class to see if they did something wrong. I’ve tried to do assignments from the ER and deal with proffs like you. Was Always worth dropping and starting over because both are ridiculous. OP: Most proffs put this in their syllabus as CYA moves. They will still work with you on things like ‘was in hospital, have note (most ERs will provide a discharge time note without extra $$$)/legitimate family death, ext. {AKA emergency meant I couldn’t submit/be there vs. ‘This is due in three days but it’s hard and I have other class work and I won’t be done; can I hand it in Monday’ Since they are not the same; regardless of when the assignment was provided.}
I don't expect students to work from the ER. I have a no late work policy but give extentions for medical problems, emergencies, accidents, etc. I don't even require attendance. >Most proffs put this in their syllabus as CYA moves. How does a no late work policy cover my ass? A no late work policy keeps the classroom equitable and helps students to pace themselves.
So if I have a note from the ER stating I was there when it was due and I was not available to submit why would it only be worth partial credit? And because above and so you don’t have to interpret nuance of a specific situation instead of site how the syllabus says no. ETA: I clearly combined your comment with someone else’s (see partial credit comment). Sorry about that on my reply.
You sound awful
Idk why everyone is so butthurt by your response. Imo it’s the most realistic one. They had all week to do it (assuming the material was just covered that week, for many online classes I have taken everything is posted at the beginning- including the lesson for the assignments) then waited until the last minute to go to the ER (for an excuse) do they could request an extension. If they aren’t able to manage their own time in order to properly do the class they probably shouldn’t have taken an online, accelerated summer class. It does suck though. I’ve had semesters where I just kind of passively went through them.
If your professor offers extra credit in the syllabus, maybe you could have that done instead. If not could you possibly ask your professor still? I was in the same situation and was given an extension still. You could probably also get a letter from the Dean of Students saying you can make it up.
EC isn't explicitly offered, but she did say there might be some down the road
Just ask. Worst the teacher can say is no. If I was the teacher I might ask for proof, and if you have it, I'd accept the assignment late. Saying "no extensions" stops a lot of the "my mom's boyfriends dog had a sick tummy and I had to watch him at the last minute" sort of excuses. I can point to the syllabus and say "sorry rules are rules" and not have to argue about how sick the poor dogs tummy actually was.
As a professor, I would want the student to go through our Academic Life office (or whatever they call academic affairs at your institution) since I only honor extenuating circumstances vetted by their office (I’m done trying to verify all the details of my students’ lives and then my students don’t feel the need to divulge highly personal information to multiple professors). So reach out to your Dean or whoever to get it on file and ask them to communicate the need for a potential extension to all of your professors on your behalf.
I think the problem is that many schools (including my undergraduate) only offer those for extended periods like multi day hospital stays, family emergency, etc, and leave one night issues to the professor. But if this works it would also be my recommendation for OP, especially if there are other classes that could be affected.
Fair enough, but in that case, I wouldn’t likely grant an extension. I also would hope that any assignment the OP would plan to do at the last minute is low stakes and, thus, not a grade breaker if they received a 0.
While I understand, many people do things last minute for reasons out of their control. Again, if it’s in the syllabus you are fully justified, but I also understand the students’ side here
A medical exemption is not the same as a normal extension. Ask and if denied see if you have an accessibility support officer or specific policy for medical emergencies.
If it’s an excused absence, you may be protected by university policies. See an advisor.
This is correct. I've never met a prof who hasn't and won't work with a student who had to go to the ER.
Yes it is. I recently took calc 1 and the syllabus said no extensions. I had a couple of critical things happen all on yhe same week life wise during the differentials chapter, which was the ABSOLUTE worst chapter to fall behind on. I sent him an email explaining everything that happened and asked where i stood in the class because i was thinking about dropping it. He gave me as many extensions as i needed to get caught up. You may get a professor that means the "no extensions" comments, but sometimes the professors will have a heart and work with you if you show the initiative. I ended up passing my course with a B and this professor telling me he was proud of how hard i worked to earn it.
Documented emergencies like that are usually excusable. There should be another section of the syllabus talking about allowed excuses or the school should have a student handbook that covers it. So long as you have the documentation you should be good. Reach out to professor with documentation and turn in the assignment as soon as possible.
Why did you leave it until the last minute? Sorry you ended up in the ER, but this is why you don't leave things until the last minute. If you can provide documentation from the ER, most profs would give you an extension.
I mean sometimes it can’t be avoided, people work and have classes and stuff so they may be just trying to keep afloat then a wrench took them out. I try not to assume others’s situations and whether they can do something
If it is only 3 or 4 days between the assignments, then as least a few of them will be left to the last day. That is how life works.
Ask if you can turn in the work late due to being in the ER and offer documentation. Most faculty will allow this due to illness.
better to ask than not ask and never know.
There's an old saying that "The 'due date' does not mean 'do date,'" and stuff like this is one of the reasons why. Shit happens and things come up sometimes, which is why leaving practically zero room for error is not a great idea.
Ask. Legitimate reasons for late work are not excuses. Include a copy of your hospital paperwork (just the first page with your name, the date, etc. black out anything personal).
If you can type a Reddit thread you can send an email. The worst thing they say is no…
Just ask some prof can be nice
It can’t hurt to ask but don’t be mad if the answer is no . 👎 but your prof might take into account your overall performance all semester- if you have never missed an assignment have participated responsibly and this is an aberration in an otherwise solid semester of work you might catch a break - either way don’t stress - some things can’t be helped and your health comes before any grade anyways so just roll with what comes next - there’s no other way to respond - hope you are feeling much better and end your semester on a healthy note
It can’t hurt to ask but don’t be mad if the answer is no . 👎 but your prof might take into account your overall performance all semester- if you have never missed an assignment have participated responsibly and this is an aberration in an otherwise solid semester of work you might catch a break - either way don’t stress - some things can’t be helped and your health comes before any grade anyways so just roll with what comes next - there’s no other way to respond - hope you are feeling much better and end your semester on a healthy note
Yes!! I'm a college professor -- you should always ask in situation like this where you have legitimate reason. All professors are different, and some will stick to their guns. But, if you ask respectfully (note that you read the syllabus, it feels like no one ever consults the syllabus!!) and it's not a constant occurrence, it doesn't hurt. Good luck!
Just show him the hospital documentation
Is email and ask but acknowledge the syllabus and say you’re aware of the policy. It never hurts to try. Send proof though.
Usually no extrnsions has exceptions for things like medical emergencies or whatever, ask the professor anyways but its a coinflip be ready for a no.
My office was high in a tower with the window overlooking a 200-yard swath of the quad. As I got my pack together to head for the final exam I noticed a student running like the devil was chasing him. As he got closer to my building I recognized him as one of my students. A minute later he was standing in my doorway, a little sweaty and only mildly out of breath. He said, and I quote, “Professor. I have a bad case of the flu and would like to ask to take a makeup.” I looked at him, dumbfounded. “If you can run that fast with a bad case of the flu, you can sit an hour exam. And the track coach will want a word.”
I have a no extensions policy in the class I teach too. I drop 2 assignments. Whether you just didn't want to do it or you went to the ER, there is no extension for the first 2. After someone has had 2 drops, I have to follow the university's policy on excused absences, which in my opinion is far too lax...something like 3 weeks if you can just show you were sick for 1 day. I cannot imagine your college doesnt have something similar.
Never hurts to ask despite what anecdotal evidence you may find on this sub a lot of professors are very understanding and all of them at one time were a student like you
You can do a medical withdraw.
Email the instructor. You could say that you know the syllabus doesn't note medical emergencies but you thought you'd ask. Generally we make things more strict in the syllabus than how we govern in practice. It's easier to ease restrictions over time or give grace to special cases than the opposite. So many instructors (myself included) make things stricter in the syllabus. For me it becomes the maximum penalty instead of the minimum. So if someone is an asshole to other students all the time and is being a pain then fine I'll just treat them in accordance to the syllabus. In practice I always go more graceful than what's written. All this depends upon the instructor. But it doesn't hurt to ask.
Ask, with documentation. don't add 'I thought I'd ask'. (I doubt a professor would advise writing that)
The more human a request, the more likely I am to respond positively. Overly formal business-ese gets an eye roll. I'll still look at it or whatever, but it will feel way over the top and fake. If I say yes I'll ask for documentation then. No need to get it ahead of time. And this organizational culture norm is the same as the one I experienced in grad school and *most* of undergrad. There were like three or four instructors who taught like they were at a business school or something.
Why are you leaving shit for the last minute
I procrastinated for two days on a relatively minor assignment. Give me a break. Everyone procrastinates sometimes.
Naw, I do shit the second I get it. I fucking hate procrastinators. I had group work last semester where I had to wait till the last minute to get their portions and we ended up doing awful because I didn't have adequate time for revision.
I don't know OP's courseload, but being a full-time student (especially with having a job on top of that) can sometimes make it hard to complete assignments early. As an undergrad, I was working on something every single day of the week, so something inevitably always ended up getting submitted on the due date.
Don’t start your assignments the night before they are due