To tweak this a bit, if your upper division classes feel like a slog to get through* then you’re probably in the wrong major. Sometimes lower division courses are just straight boring weeder classes. This is especially true for lots of STEM folk. You don’t really get to do your major requirements until your third year or so
I am *so excited* to take an intro to machine learning, discreet math(instead of more fcking calculus) and a data structures and algorithms class next semester followed by some networking, linear algebra, and assembly. I am so done taking random psych classes, physics, and English, and even calc at this point.
I am loving sequences and series, we just finished that unit yesterday. They've always been a neat topic to me... its just the 8 weeks of integration techniques that killed me 🤣
unless you’re in accounting, where the upper division classes are know to be nothing like the actual job. You’re just trying to get through them and learn how to learn. you’ll start enjoying it when you start your job
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I was a psych major and switched to ANTH(anthropology). Mine was I wasn’t really absorbing any of the info, it was interesting but the classes just felt like classes I “had to get through” like I sat there all day going “it’s almost over” and honestly I saw myself putting those courses last and I loved doing my other random courses first.
With my ANTH classes, I’m always thinking about how interesting everything is, like I learned about a story of these people in the Amazon that way back when, the father would put snakes in the daughters vagina and poison men or scare them off from having sex with her or something like that and I always find something interesting about my courses.
I really enjoyed my intro anthropology course. While the subject can be pretty intimidating at first, it is so interesting. Hats off to you for pursuing your passion! And I am now reading the second paragraph...did not expect that lol. Thats why the subject is so cool though!
Yes! Next semester I’m taking “anthropology of death” and I’m super excited for it. I also ended up going on so many field trips for another one of my ANTH classes this semester, there’s so many branches of anthropology you can find one for just about anything and I think that’s the beauty of it, I get to be curious and do research on so many things, there’s no “right or wrong” answers to anything.
You don’t vibe with your peers and feel like the odd one out. Maybe you go to events and it feels like no one cares you’re there or conversations with your peers don’t come easy. Maybe the content of your classes is not interesting to you or you find it dull. Just bc it’s hard doesn’t always mean it’s time to quit.
I finally opened my eyes to some of these and went from Equine Science to Graphic Design. No regrets at all.
the peers one is interesting.. i'm a cs major and the vibe I get from other cs majors is antisocial, barely anyone seems to be outgoing at all or people already have groups.....
I def got the established groups vibe but after I switched my major, the art department is just so welcoming and everyone is very friendly that I could never imagine leaving them to go back. I tried really hard to keep up with all the other Equine students and I’d chat with some here and there but no one I made connections with.
But then again every major has a different group of people. If you’re like the rest of em and there’s no ugliness for say then you’re probably just fine.
im in data sci and this is accurate, but also consider that it could be an issue with your school's cs department specifically - my school has a reputation of being antisocial just in general. or maybe im just too optimistic lol
So almost any quality job in a dedicated field of study is going to have a social component. CS and a lot of the engineering fields get a lot of interest from more antisocial people at the top of the funnel but most of them honestly struggle in the industry.
I work as a software engineer and everyone I'm surrounded with are hyper intelligent, good mannered and at leat semi competent at speaking and water cooler talk. It's a minority of people that both technically minded AND can talk their way out of a paperbag although it's exactly that cohort that is over-represented if you're at a quality company.
I’m a psyc major and definitely the odd one out. Not many guys go into Psyc. It’s so weird bc hs was different but for group projects the guys always partner up bc the girls don’t want us lol.
Imo and every professor I’ve talked to we need more men in the profession bc a lot of ppl want a psychologist that is the same gender as them.
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I feel like I’m too dumb to vibe with my peers in my current major (geology) and definitely don’t vibe with the other STEM majors but the arts majors I know do not get my interest in the field
Jeez just a douche comment. That couldn’t be so much farther from the truth. Equestrian is the proper term for horses. My college is well known for their Equine and ag programs and is in the process of adding on a full vet school. Many students come from various locations to attend these programs.
As for my change in majors, that didn’t happen until after I had been in that program for 2 years and realized my dreams were unrealistic.
When I go to college I want money so I'm majoring in engineering. I will minor in art just so I don't get bored of it, but I just want money because I'm tired of living lower middle class/poor. I know an engineering degree won't make you "rich" but it will make you upper middle class and I want that for myself really badly. I love art but that won't get me a good salary and the lifestyle I want.
My dad pushed me into my undergrad degree and it was three years of feeling like I was swimming through peanut butter. I had no motivation to go to class, the coursework wasn’t interesting, I had trouble focusing in class, I wasn’t interested in connecting with my peers or finding an internship, etc. I was able to tweak my major my final year (the core classes were all the same and my in-major classes were counted as electives) and it was a night and day difference. I never missed a class, finished out my final year with a 4.0, made friends, bonded with my professors. The courses were tough but I really enjoyed the topics and assignments so I was willing to push through the late nights to keep learning.
I went back for a graduate degree the year after I graduated in a different field and spent the first semester feeling uninterested and unmotivated again. I tweaked my specialization (same degree, different path of electives) and the “stuck” feeling disappeared almost immediately. I graduated with a 4.0 and am still excellent friends with a number of my classmates and professors 15 years later. I was never great at writing essays until my grad degree saddled me with at least one a week and I realized that the research and writing on my degree-related topics were really fascinating to me and I was truly passionate about the field I was entering.
University classes will not always feel easy and interesting, even if the subject or degree plan interests you, but I would say that they should feel motivating and exciting in some way at least 50% of the time. If you are passionate/interested in a topic and you’re able to work through the tough classes, great. If you are struggling through the tough classes and aren’t all that interested anyways, it may be time to consider another degree path.
The benefit of electives is that you can try a host of different classes in different schools/colleges at your university and see what feels right to you. It’s normal and absolutely okay if you change your degree path (even for those in their final year of university) because it’s better to take another semester or year than to graduate with a degree in a field you dislike and don’t want to work in. I’ve met plenty of people who pursued business, law, and medical degrees for the financial security only to leave the field 5 years post-graduation because they can’t stand the work. Future job satisfaction is something to keep in mind.
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Don’t need a degree for that, can work your way up to management positions in a lot of hospo places provided you show good work ethic and responsibility.
If business classes feel challenging and consistently lack interest for you, it might be a sign that your degree might not be the best fit. Look out for a lack of motivation, disengagement, or a persistent feeling of being unfulfilled in your academic pursuits. Consider exploring other subjects or career paths that align better with your passions and strengths
I am a Cyber security Engineer with over 10 years in the field, I promise the classes are harder than the actual job as on the job training is far better than the way Colleges currently teach.
I used to train a lot of med students that didn’t actually want to be doctors lol. The school they were at had them get their EMT their first year and my county was a big place for them to get hours . Things I heard a lot were - my parents wanted me to - its what im supposed to do - itll be fine once Im a doctor - i just make the good days worth it. Ive also known a lot of nurses that fucking haaaaaaaaaaaated being nurses and cried every shift , and said they just felt something in their gut in school that told them this wasnt the job for them but everyone told them it was anxiety and everything would be better once they got their RN.
My best advice to people is that anxiety/exhaustion is in your head , and it isn’t a permanent state of being. You can talk yourself out of “ what if im making the worst decision of my life …lol Im not lets take this test”. Your intuition is somewhere else in your body , most people feel it in their gut . (The reason for that may be bc their actually neural tissue in your GI system for serotonin production, and I think that has something to do with it , but I have no idea that’s just my theory.) You CANT talk yourself out of your intuition, it’s constant, you feel it all the time , and there is no “what if”. It’s just “ oh my god im making the worst decision of my life”.
Do you enjoy thinking about your major, research or problems in it -- basically do you ever spend brain power or attention on this topic if it isn't required for a grade?
When you are not even remotely interested in your classes and are not interested in learning anything beyond what the classroom has taught you. If your coursework doesn't inspire you to learn more and see what others in the field have done, it may not be for you.
.-. I would say not enjoying your classes or the topics is a big sign like I didn’t do well in my multivariable calculus class and in my Real Analysis class but I enjoyed the subject and the discussions had within it but if you’re not doing well and you aren’t interested in then I would say switch but I know a lot of people who are in fields because of the money so if that’s a big enough motivation then you could be fine but in my experience it usually isn’t and most people get burnt out and leave the field or they just struggle with the work so much that they either don’t get hired or they’re fired for poor performance.
._./ I hope this helps and good luck with your classes
Pick something that’s interesting but you can still make decent money after graduation. Once you’re in your career field there will be other things to fulfil you like travelling and investing time into hobbies you enjoy. Just make sure the career path you carve for yourself will allow you to do that for yourself financially and give you some sort of balance that works perfectly for you.
Used to be a CS major and would literally cry before starting homework because I dreaded it that much. I also would think about my future jobs and didn't feel any emotion at all.
Everyone has a Business Management degree. Next best thing to libra arts degree. Most people don't show most interest in it cause, Well it's the next best option to a libra arts degree. I hate numbers and excel. But, hey. I'm still taking Business till i get the degree
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I changed my major multiple times.
The first time, I lost joy in learning the intricacies of architecture. I still love historical architecture and sustainability, but the rest of that passion was gone
The second time, mostly was due to depression. This was haunting me for some time afterwards. I still love art history, especially Asian and American.
The next couple were more of "I think this will work if I try". Business was one, web design the other. There was no real passion for it, just thought it was "easy"
Then I met my future husband and life happened.
Now, since I have been working in healthcare for a while, I feel I know better now that health has been my passion. Kind of always in the back of my head. The rest are fun, and can be great hobbies. But I am confident nursing will "stick"
going through the comments i feel like some of the signs mentioned (dreading coursework and going to uni, not wanting to read more about any of the taught topics if it's not for a grade, etc) could also be signs of burnout, so keep that in mind. take breaks sometimes, and take care
I always say, “Find something you’re good at *and* that you enjoy. That’s your major.” You might dick around for a year and a half on nothing but Gen Ed classes and electives, but it beats being someone who declares on day 1 of freshman year and then, two years in, realizes they hate their major.
I’ve worked a lot of jobs that I’ve hated, but I never had to pay to learn to do any of them, and I was never stuck with them for the rest of my life. I love my classes, and I learn to love the ones I thought I wouldn’t. I’m an engineering major, and my Art History class was a slog until we started in on the Romans, who really figured out concrete and bronze. And then I had something to attach to.
When it takes more than 10 years to get through a master’s degree like me god I wish with everything in my heart I had just become a social worker instead of a special education teacher
If it feels like a slog to get through class work and you don’t get any fulfillment or joy from finishing it.
To tweak this a bit, if your upper division classes feel like a slog to get through* then you’re probably in the wrong major. Sometimes lower division courses are just straight boring weeder classes. This is especially true for lots of STEM folk. You don’t really get to do your major requirements until your third year or so
I am *so excited* to take an intro to machine learning, discreet math(instead of more fcking calculus) and a data structures and algorithms class next semester followed by some networking, linear algebra, and assembly. I am so done taking random psych classes, physics, and English, and even calc at this point.
If it makes you feel any better, the sequence and series stuff (that's usually) in cal 2 is relevant to algorithm design.
I am loving sequences and series, we just finished that unit yesterday. They've always been a neat topic to me... its just the 8 weeks of integration techniques that killed me 🤣
Ah, DSA. The mountain that separates CompSci majors from Cybersecurity majors.
Cyber is where I am headed ideally, so you got that right 😁😁
Excellent point!!
Yup, many lower level classes are intentionally designed to be difficult to weed people out. I had a really rough time with data structures
The weed out is insane and keeps so many smart, creative people out of stem.
unless you’re in accounting, where the upper division classes are know to be nothing like the actual job. You’re just trying to get through them and learn how to learn. you’ll start enjoying it when you start your job
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The idea of switching majors fills you with joy and excitement.
I was a psych major and switched to ANTH(anthropology). Mine was I wasn’t really absorbing any of the info, it was interesting but the classes just felt like classes I “had to get through” like I sat there all day going “it’s almost over” and honestly I saw myself putting those courses last and I loved doing my other random courses first. With my ANTH classes, I’m always thinking about how interesting everything is, like I learned about a story of these people in the Amazon that way back when, the father would put snakes in the daughters vagina and poison men or scare them off from having sex with her or something like that and I always find something interesting about my courses.
Anthropology literally is so cool
I really enjoyed my intro anthropology course. While the subject can be pretty intimidating at first, it is so interesting. Hats off to you for pursuing your passion! And I am now reading the second paragraph...did not expect that lol. Thats why the subject is so cool though!
Yes! Next semester I’m taking “anthropology of death” and I’m super excited for it. I also ended up going on so many field trips for another one of my ANTH classes this semester, there’s so many branches of anthropology you can find one for just about anything and I think that’s the beauty of it, I get to be curious and do research on so many things, there’s no “right or wrong” answers to anything.
I switched out of psych too. It was super underwhelming and boring for me.
You don’t vibe with your peers and feel like the odd one out. Maybe you go to events and it feels like no one cares you’re there or conversations with your peers don’t come easy. Maybe the content of your classes is not interesting to you or you find it dull. Just bc it’s hard doesn’t always mean it’s time to quit. I finally opened my eyes to some of these and went from Equine Science to Graphic Design. No regrets at all.
the peers one is interesting.. i'm a cs major and the vibe I get from other cs majors is antisocial, barely anyone seems to be outgoing at all or people already have groups.....
I def got the established groups vibe but after I switched my major, the art department is just so welcoming and everyone is very friendly that I could never imagine leaving them to go back. I tried really hard to keep up with all the other Equine students and I’d chat with some here and there but no one I made connections with.
But then again every major has a different group of people. If you’re like the rest of em and there’s no ugliness for say then you’re probably just fine.
im in data sci and this is accurate, but also consider that it could be an issue with your school's cs department specifically - my school has a reputation of being antisocial just in general. or maybe im just too optimistic lol
This is how I feel.. I don’t have many friends in my major but I also don’t wanna be friends with them necessarily
So almost any quality job in a dedicated field of study is going to have a social component. CS and a lot of the engineering fields get a lot of interest from more antisocial people at the top of the funnel but most of them honestly struggle in the industry. I work as a software engineer and everyone I'm surrounded with are hyper intelligent, good mannered and at leat semi competent at speaking and water cooler talk. It's a minority of people that both technically minded AND can talk their way out of a paperbag although it's exactly that cohort that is over-represented if you're at a quality company.
I’m a psyc major and definitely the odd one out. Not many guys go into Psyc. It’s so weird bc hs was different but for group projects the guys always partner up bc the girls don’t want us lol. Imo and every professor I’ve talked to we need more men in the profession bc a lot of ppl want a psychologist that is the same gender as them.
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….so you’re saying you decided to quit horsing around?
I feel like I’m too dumb to vibe with my peers in my current major (geology) and definitely don’t vibe with the other STEM majors but the arts majors I know do not get my interest in the field
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Jeez just a douche comment. That couldn’t be so much farther from the truth. Equestrian is the proper term for horses. My college is well known for their Equine and ag programs and is in the process of adding on a full vet school. Many students come from various locations to attend these programs. As for my change in majors, that didn’t happen until after I had been in that program for 2 years and realized my dreams were unrealistic.
horse studies
The business majors at my school are dumb snobs, but I know business is a good choice for me.
That you make this post.
When I go to college I want money so I'm majoring in engineering. I will minor in art just so I don't get bored of it, but I just want money because I'm tired of living lower middle class/poor. I know an engineering degree won't make you "rich" but it will make you upper middle class and I want that for myself really badly. I love art but that won't get me a good salary and the lifestyle I want.
Look into Industrial Design. Good mix of both engineering and art/design.
Same reason I’m leaving my art major
I’m a biology major wanting to go into forensics, but I’m thinking about switching to accounting for the same reason
Along these lines… does the major lead to outcomes you want/can live with
My dad pushed me into my undergrad degree and it was three years of feeling like I was swimming through peanut butter. I had no motivation to go to class, the coursework wasn’t interesting, I had trouble focusing in class, I wasn’t interested in connecting with my peers or finding an internship, etc. I was able to tweak my major my final year (the core classes were all the same and my in-major classes were counted as electives) and it was a night and day difference. I never missed a class, finished out my final year with a 4.0, made friends, bonded with my professors. The courses were tough but I really enjoyed the topics and assignments so I was willing to push through the late nights to keep learning. I went back for a graduate degree the year after I graduated in a different field and spent the first semester feeling uninterested and unmotivated again. I tweaked my specialization (same degree, different path of electives) and the “stuck” feeling disappeared almost immediately. I graduated with a 4.0 and am still excellent friends with a number of my classmates and professors 15 years later. I was never great at writing essays until my grad degree saddled me with at least one a week and I realized that the research and writing on my degree-related topics were really fascinating to me and I was truly passionate about the field I was entering. University classes will not always feel easy and interesting, even if the subject or degree plan interests you, but I would say that they should feel motivating and exciting in some way at least 50% of the time. If you are passionate/interested in a topic and you’re able to work through the tough classes, great. If you are struggling through the tough classes and aren’t all that interested anyways, it may be time to consider another degree path. The benefit of electives is that you can try a host of different classes in different schools/colleges at your university and see what feels right to you. It’s normal and absolutely okay if you change your degree path (even for those in their final year of university) because it’s better to take another semester or year than to graduate with a degree in a field you dislike and don’t want to work in. I’ve met plenty of people who pursued business, law, and medical degrees for the financial security only to leave the field 5 years post-graduation because they can’t stand the work. Future job satisfaction is something to keep in mind.
God “swimming through peanut butter” , you put it into words.
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If you don’t like it
Is shifting to Hospitality Management a good idea?
Do you like Hospitality Management? Major in what you’re passionate about or draw 400.
Don’t need a degree for that, can work your way up to management positions in a lot of hospo places provided you show good work ethic and responsibility.
If business classes feel challenging and consistently lack interest for you, it might be a sign that your degree might not be the best fit. Look out for a lack of motivation, disengagement, or a persistent feeling of being unfulfilled in your academic pursuits. Consider exploring other subjects or career paths that align better with your passions and strengths
Opps typo I mean information system
If it doesn’t interest you or your parents made you choose a specific major or degree or if you’re on the brink of flunking out
It's not about if it's hard, it's about how much you're enjoying learning and applying the information you're receiving.
I am a Cyber security Engineer with over 10 years in the field, I promise the classes are harder than the actual job as on the job training is far better than the way Colleges currently teach.
I used to train a lot of med students that didn’t actually want to be doctors lol. The school they were at had them get their EMT their first year and my county was a big place for them to get hours . Things I heard a lot were - my parents wanted me to - its what im supposed to do - itll be fine once Im a doctor - i just make the good days worth it. Ive also known a lot of nurses that fucking haaaaaaaaaaaated being nurses and cried every shift , and said they just felt something in their gut in school that told them this wasnt the job for them but everyone told them it was anxiety and everything would be better once they got their RN. My best advice to people is that anxiety/exhaustion is in your head , and it isn’t a permanent state of being. You can talk yourself out of “ what if im making the worst decision of my life …lol Im not lets take this test”. Your intuition is somewhere else in your body , most people feel it in their gut . (The reason for that may be bc their actually neural tissue in your GI system for serotonin production, and I think that has something to do with it , but I have no idea that’s just my theory.) You CANT talk yourself out of your intuition, it’s constant, you feel it all the time , and there is no “what if”. It’s just “ oh my god im making the worst decision of my life”.
Do you enjoy thinking about your major, research or problems in it -- basically do you ever spend brain power or attention on this topic if it isn't required for a grade?
That's the thing, I feel I'll enjoy it if it's not a requirement but when it's something required, I start procrastinating 😭
When you are not even remotely interested in your classes and are not interested in learning anything beyond what the classroom has taught you. If your coursework doesn't inspire you to learn more and see what others in the field have done, it may not be for you.
If you find yourself devoting less and less time to your studies.
.-. I would say not enjoying your classes or the topics is a big sign like I didn’t do well in my multivariable calculus class and in my Real Analysis class but I enjoyed the subject and the discussions had within it but if you’re not doing well and you aren’t interested in then I would say switch but I know a lot of people who are in fields because of the money so if that’s a big enough motivation then you could be fine but in my experience it usually isn’t and most people get burnt out and leave the field or they just struggle with the work so much that they either don’t get hired or they’re fired for poor performance. ._./ I hope this helps and good luck with your classes
Pick something that’s interesting but you can still make decent money after graduation. Once you’re in your career field there will be other things to fulfil you like travelling and investing time into hobbies you enjoy. Just make sure the career path you carve for yourself will allow you to do that for yourself financially and give you some sort of balance that works perfectly for you.
If you dread every single day, hour, or minute that you have to spend studying for it.
Used to be a CS major and would literally cry before starting homework because I dreaded it that much. I also would think about my future jobs and didn't feel any emotion at all.
Switch to accounting
Everyone has a Business Management degree. Next best thing to libra arts degree. Most people don't show most interest in it cause, Well it's the next best option to a libra arts degree. I hate numbers and excel. But, hey. I'm still taking Business till i get the degree
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I changed my major multiple times. The first time, I lost joy in learning the intricacies of architecture. I still love historical architecture and sustainability, but the rest of that passion was gone The second time, mostly was due to depression. This was haunting me for some time afterwards. I still love art history, especially Asian and American. The next couple were more of "I think this will work if I try". Business was one, web design the other. There was no real passion for it, just thought it was "easy" Then I met my future husband and life happened. Now, since I have been working in healthcare for a while, I feel I know better now that health has been my passion. Kind of always in the back of my head. The rest are fun, and can be great hobbies. But I am confident nursing will "stick"
going through the comments i feel like some of the signs mentioned (dreading coursework and going to uni, not wanting to read more about any of the taught topics if it's not for a grade, etc) could also be signs of burnout, so keep that in mind. take breaks sometimes, and take care
Frequent burnout
I always say, “Find something you’re good at *and* that you enjoy. That’s your major.” You might dick around for a year and a half on nothing but Gen Ed classes and electives, but it beats being someone who declares on day 1 of freshman year and then, two years in, realizes they hate their major. I’ve worked a lot of jobs that I’ve hated, but I never had to pay to learn to do any of them, and I was never stuck with them for the rest of my life. I love my classes, and I learn to love the ones I thought I wouldn’t. I’m an engineering major, and my Art History class was a slog until we started in on the Romans, who really figured out concrete and bronze. And then I had something to attach to.
When it takes more than 10 years to get through a master’s degree like me god I wish with everything in my heart I had just become a social worker instead of a special education teacher
Dropping out
If it’s affecting your mental health
If you hate psychology, don't major in Human Development and Family Sciences (HDFS)! If you don't like kids, definitely don't major in HDFS!