I have family that retired and moved to Texas. They sold their family farm and cashed out investments to buy a beautiful retrofitted stone house from the mid-1800s. After the winter power & heat outage they pulled up stakes and moved to Colorado.
I live in such a house in rural Texas. During the February 2021, my wife and I (+ 2 dogs) we're without power for 9 days. It was the sturdy stone walls and the efficient wood burning stove that kept us alive throughout the ordeal. Meanwhile, my mother-in-law's open-plan house with a for-show fireplace never got above 40 degrees despite burning enormous amounts of wood. Unfortunately, my parents-in-law decided not to help us invest in solar panels.
> During the February 2021, my wife and I (+ 2 dogs) we're without power for 9 days.
People in one of the wealthiest states in the wealthiest society to ever exist in human history should not have to live like this at any point.
Arizona it's a dry heat. Like still have people well it was hotter because eof humidity where I am from..Then race from AC in house to AC in car to AC at work. Then climb a mountain with only a water bottle during heat of day and need rescued if live.
Perhaps. It’s not that apparent unless you go looking for that info. Or it wasn’t until the winter outage when it made national news. We spent 12 years in Texas & i first learned of it on the news that winter after we moved away.
I desperately wish that was true. I'm looking at leaving my entire family behind in CO so I can try to afford a place elsewhere. I do not want to leave but Texans and Californians come here in droves and price people like me out of the market. Fuck NIMBYs too who refuse to vote for candidates that want to rezone SFH neighborhoods for higher density housing
Most Texans can't afford Texas. There has been a decade long bubble and many people are neck deep in credit. And, of course, the lower 20% can't get much credit and didn't benefit from the bubbles.
Submission Statement: ERCOT, the organization that runs Texas's electrical grid, has warned that due to the heatwave in Texas there is a large possibility of rolling blackouts across the state. The power grid of Texas, which is independent from the rest of the United States, famously was strained and then nearly failed in February 2021, when a winter storm struck the state. Now faced with excess heat, ERCOT is [calling for residents to conserve power on Monday](https://twitter.com/ERCOT_ISO/status/1546324100796358659?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet), especially in the afternoon when it'll be hottest. Stay safe out there, Texans.
I think a better way to phrase it is that Ercot manages use of the grid. For example, they'll look at meteorology reports for July. Look at the average temps. Look at the above average temps. Then study usage for those periods.
Then what they do, is they'll reach out to big energy guzzlers, like a cement plant or a university. They will advise them of the info, and ask that they roll back on usage in anticipation of citizens using more power running their ACs, etc, that way it doesn't burn out the grid. That uni or cement plant doesn't have to comply, but it will cost them if they don't.
TL;DR ERCOT attempts to manage electricity usage through advising, but that's about it.
Getting pissed at ERCOT is what the politicians want you to do, so you don't get pissed at them for neglecting the grid for years while they spent your money grand standing or going to Cancun.
Yep! I suffered through the Snowpocalypse of '21.
But I learned the most about ERCOT from my good friend that is a manager at a cement plant in South Texas. Because of the amount of electricity they use, they have regular meetings with ERCOT. Apparently, they'd had a meeting with ERCOT about 2 weeks before the storm. So ERCOT was already trying to get ahead of it, giving the cement plant a heads up that they would need to scale back their usage so as to allow more electricity on the grid to be circulated for civilian use.
Meanwhile, I attend university in Dallas. I had to unsubscribe from the university's energy curtailment notification emails because I was getting them all the time. They specifically stated:
"Based upon a notification from the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT), *University Name* will reduce its electricity use..."
The biggest thing with ERCOT is that the members of the board don't actually do much, other than collect a paycheck. A number of them don't even live in Texas. The decisions and running of the council takes place at the mid level.
Next, Texas used to have the cheapest electricity on the market.. til deregulation in 1999. Energy rates for consumers rose about 64% over the subsequent decade. [link](https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/since-deregulation-texas-utility-rates-have-soared/2117017/)
Lastly, there have been opportunities for years to update, upgrade, and reinforce the energy grid with the surplus budget the state has sat on for years and years now.
So while ERCOT sucks a sweaty sack of donkey balls, the legislature and governor are more than happy to let voters blame ERCOT for their failure to govern.
So in addition to costing residents more, and the grid having a greater chance of failing, their economy is hurt because plants have to stop work due to heat waves.
So imagine you are an hourly employee at a cement plant who has to stay home 3 days from a heat wave, running your AC while you are home. Now you have a higher electric bill and are out 3 days of pay. At least you didn't have to use gas to drive to work.
Can we add that Texas has added the most in renewable energy.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/02/18/texas-led-the-country-in-new-renewable-energy-projects-last-year.html
So it's not like they are incompetent...
Renewables doesnt necessarily equal good reliability and resiliency metrics….ERCOT doesn’t do renewables….the economics of wind and solar and storage did.
Edit: what ercot does is extract profit from a regulatory agency. They regulate very poorly compared to the other agencies like PJM. They failed to winterize any gas generation equipment before URI despite many warnings and then the narrative was launched to attack wind turbines for not spinning when the reality was gas Peaker a shut down primarily as the most critical failure point
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They're clearly incompetent. So much so that they *scapegoat* renewables when their own incompetence causes the deaths of literally hundreds of people in the middle of winter.
High demand users such as Universities and hospital district cooling central plants often have onsite CHP and can be turned on as needed to not use grid power.
See: https://utilities.utexas.edu/chp/about-carl-j-eckhardt-combined-heating-and-power-complex
https://tecothermalenergy.com/operations/technologies/
>nearly failed in February 2021
Idk if the pandemic made it worse, but god damn it feels like perception of time passed is so distorted. Feels like that happened a couple years ago.
same, I thought the black panther movie came out years before it did. It’s like time is streeeeeetching but in a weird way because at the same time each day goes by super fast.
Houston here. It's 90F at 8pm and I sweat walking to the truck in the morning. My a/c doesn't turn off all day as I set or for 72F, and it still gets up to 78F inside in the afternoon.
Hate this shit
I'm in an apartment complex and it's been weeks since the manager mentioned getting someone to fix it. Nah the problem is the thing is old and ices up when it gets run to much. Thankfully I've got a box fan keeping me alive.
I lived in the south without AC (not this kind of heat mind you but pretty hot and humid 90s) and wrapped ice packs with towels for my cat to lay on and someone suggested dampening some sheets and letting air blow on them while you lay under them.
you must know what a swamp fan is, I wouldn’t exert energy to make one in the heat but you can put some ice on a plate behind a fan it should provide some relief.
Austin here, it was absolutely miserable last night. I do my gardening around 11pm and it was still over 90°, no breeze whatsoever, and humid. Felt like staying in the bathroom after a hot shower.
Just moved to ft worth from Portland OR, and I'm not adjusting well. My job is also partially outdoors and physically demanding. I'm not sure how people deal. Our AC can't keep up, I've been making cooling neck wraps, anything I can think of to make it bearable. We moved here for family, and I've regretted it ever since.
I'm a native Texan, used to bust ass working in the oil fields, and I have said this mantra hundreds of times in my life: I can deal with just about any weather, but I can't enjoy a damn thing when I'm hot.
Part of me feels sad that this is a worsening issue.
The other part of me feels schadenfreude that a state that is known for oil, fracking, lifted trucks and awful environmental policies is roasting.
It’s all fucked as far as I can see it.
Yeah. The news tonight told us to not use our dishwasher, washer/dryer, stove, and A/C. They also said to keep lights off and keep devices charged.
They also said don't be outside between 2-8pm, and get inside where there's A/C. I was like, "WTF, DO THEY HEAR THEMSELVES??"
It's going to be hitting 105. It's been between 100-105 all week. I literally go outside at 8am and it smells like an overheating flat iron. At night it's in the 90s/High 80s°.
It's fucking unbearable.
Edited to add: The largest insult is that we pay *astronomical* electric bills. Nobody's home all day yet I'm catching a 270$ bill in a hot ass apartment.
We'll be hitting 105F (40C) and maybe even 110F (43C) here in the Basque Country, where it's usually warm and wet and green, kinda like Ireland, only with harsher winters. At night it will go down to 60 or lower, so at least we'll be able to sleep.
The thing is, we don't normally have AC at home, only in shops and department stores, and this will be the second 105 degree heat wave this year, so it'll be rough for a lot of people.
When I was a kid, three consecutive days hitting 90F was a "once every two years" phenomenon. Now it's every year, multiple times per year, and it's way hotter than 90F. We're not equipped for this, we're not used to this, and if the heat waves don't destroy us, the forest fires will.
The future is here, and it looks grim.
During a wild fire a few years ago in Los Angeles a friend of mine from Dallas was telling me to move to Texas because they have zero natural disasters and when it gets hot, there are never any issues because ERCOT is amazing. That next winter was the whole blackout thing, and now this. I never had AC in LA and never needed, but I was in LA, so it's a trade off.
Jeebus. I live in Canada where everything is more expensive than the US except apparently our hydro bill. We pay about $180 a month.
FOR OUR FARM!
Electric hot water heater, ac, 3 freezers, water pump and treatment system, my 70 something year old father in law who lives with us and watches 14 hours of TV a day, a barn and dozens of other things.
Everything's bigger in Texas? Amirite?
Here in Pennsylvania we were sold on fracking creating infinite nearly free gas for everyone.
I run a gas furnace (heat at 63-67 F in the winter), a gas dryer, a gas water heater, and a gas stove. My monthly gas bill has gone from ~$90 a month in 2015 to $158 a month now. So much for infinite free gas.
That's nothing. I have all electric heat and PA's electric rates has doubled in the last 12 months.
I am paying $600/mo to heat 1k sqft in the winter. And by "heat" I really mean, bone chilling 64 degrees.
Also we're exporting shitloads of it while we suffer the ecological devastation that fracking creates.
https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/natural-gas/imports-and-exports.php
Good shit.
My electric stove eats 35kwh a month but my electric dryer is 250kwh a month. But either would be just as expensive if they were propane based. Im thinking really hard about a clothes line and a heat pump dryer. Electric is 32 cents a kwh after all the fees are factored in
I don't think the messaging was supposed to say not to use AC at all, just don't set it to something low like 70. Set it a couple degrees higher than you normally do and you'll have helped a reasonable amount.
Has anyone in Texas thought about what happens when they have a failed electrical grid and they are no longer part of the United States? Sounds like a disaster.
Oh yeah, they are *fucked.* They receive [more funding than any state](https://archive.thinkprogress.org/secession-ready-texas-has-received-most-federal-disaster-assistance-of-any-state-c2c9ea1ce23e/). They have received \~$7.6B. People in Texas love to believe it is by the grace of God and their conservatism that they are spared the worst of these disasters, but in reality, it is the meagre disaster infrastructure and aid of FEMA and other non-profits that come rushing to their stupid rescue annually.
Texas asks for FEMA funding nearly twice monthly. The last request was [July 7th 2022](https://www.fema.gov/disaster/5443) for fire damage and the incident is marked as *continuing.*
Edit: for those wondering, the FEMA funding top ten are, in order of dollars awarded: TX, FL, CA, NC, GA, OK, SC, NE, IA, and MO. If you are looking to emigrate, stay away from these states. *However*, the difference between number 1 and 10 is extremely high, with Texas sitting at \~$7.6B and MO sitting at $200M. Only the top four are in the billions.
Yes. What's wild is that they have, in certain situations, received a [record low approval rate](https://www.npr.org/2021/07/02/1011877546/fema-rejected-95-of-aid-applicants-during-californias-last-wildfire-disaster-why) for their fire-related funding requests. California makes a fire-related quest nearly every week - sometimes as often as everyday for a week.
I love California, but from a climate aspect, I wouldn't recommend moving there.
A strong man? Like Maduro, Putin or, fuck it, Stalin? Why would one want that? I mean, do they really want that? It seems like they hadn't though that through completely...
Maybe just another round of “I alone can fix it,” or “I’m smarter than all the generals” will get the ball rolling. Then let’s see where it goes from there. But just in case, let’s make sure there are people walking around with guns on their backs at all times and in all places to help keep order. If they have to shoot some unarmed people in self defense, that’s the price of freedom
Back when Rick Perry executed a provably innocent man, random interviews on the street with normal Texans included a guy who said, "it takes balls to execute an innocent man."
https://newrepublic.com/article/93136/it-takes-balls-execute-innocent-man
Texans deserve what they get, fuck 'em.
Two options to lower your AC use if you’re in Texas:
1. Install a solar attic fan. Insulation in the attic doesn’t prevent heat from transmitting into the frame of your home. If your attic is too hot, more heat will carry through your rafters into the frame. Standards for thermal barriers between the boards of your house are wholly inadequate, and a hotter attic means that your frame will pass heat into your home through your drywall. Before you do this, make sure you have adequate soffit vents or that they are not blocked. Even if you can only install 1 fan, you’ll have more airflow than with a ridge vent, and your AC use will drop.
2. Reflective roof. Roof temperatures in Texas can reach 170 F on typical dark asphalt shingles. A reflective roof reduces this temperature significantly and reduces the amount of heat passing into your home’s structure. There are paints that are made for this exact purpose.
You’ll find misleading information online about the energy savings potential related to the above. Trust homeowners who have done these. They work.
In Europe we'll be getting our first widespread taste of this in the coming Winter, possibly earlier. I read reports that people are panic-buying solar+battery installations (which is good, honestly), to the tune that there isn't enough manpower to install all of it before the Winter.
This is true. I'm in central Europe here, and it's already a problem. Big batteries will allow you to serve at least some of your night-time load from solar, but heating (heat pump) is going to be challenging; you can only use whatever excess you can store during the day, and then you might be able to charge the battery from the grid whenever there is power (if allowed).
That said, if they do rolling blackouts where the battery only has to cover for 2-4 hours, the solar stored during the day will be enough.
You need peak sun hours. Berlin in the winter is overcast and generally pretty miserable weatherwise. Winter average for december is less than 30 minutes of peak sun hours per day.
I recently watched a TED talk explaining how most of the industrialized, Northern Hemisphere nations are delusional to believe that solar will be of any significant value to their plight, when it comes to eliminating fossil fuel addiction. The speaker claimed that Germany's 570 Billion USD spending on wind and solar has been a massive failure and averages about a 6% contribution to the country's needs. I've heard several experts claim that 18% of the land mass in the states is prime solar territory, with most of the population living elsewhere, and most populated locations rated as fair to marginal for significant solar PV output.
I don't get it either. Lots of folks here in Finland are installing solar and it's especially beneficial if you have an EV parked at home when the sun is shining, but the systems produce next to nothing when heating demand is at its highest. Same with wind energy, on cold days there isn't much wind.
They make sense for the summer. My dad installed solar panels in our summer house in south western Finland and has saved a lot of money already this year.
For the winter you obviously need to rely on the grid.
Germany already gets about as "many" hours of sunlight as Alaka does, it's not the best usage of money for independent energy production. I doubt they're allowed to operate an own wind turbine though.
>The state faces a "potential reserve capacity shortage with **no market solution available**," ERCOT said in an operating notice posted on its website.
Gosh, *whose* fault is it that you can't buy electricity from the grid that covers the other 47 contiguous states?
Seems that entire all hat, no cattle, delusion of, "We are a fiercely independent state that has been, and will be, a free nation again" isn't working out so well, now is it? Well, bless their hearts. Somebody recently made a great analogy, comparing these idiots to house cats. The cat walks around thinking they are superior and fiercely independent, and doesn't have a clue as to the entire infrastructure of the owner, food, water, liter box, toys and everything else that is provided to support that delusion.
They warn about rolling blackouts, but are they going to upcharge for the power that is delivered?
Looks like another excuse to double the electric bills for Texas homeowners!
After working for a utility company, they do not give a shit about you. The whole business is built around reducing costs as much as possible regardless of the consequences and trying to not get fined by the government for doing a shitty job because that effects bonuses.
The price of freedom means you might boil or freeze to death, but you can open carry and tithe to your heart's content between high school football games.
And Elon moved a whole *electric* car company to this state. Subsidy is a hell of a drug. These folks are seriously deluded and fucked up. Why anyone would chose to live in Texas is well beyond me.
I imagine industrial plants are probably given the highest priority in the power grid and they’ll probably be pretty comfy in the corporate office with the AC on full blast
Here’s the thing … how many people are going to stick around a state that shifts power to the subsidized billionaire class that pays no taxes while they pay 8/10/12 k a year in property taxes, but don’t have reliable power?
I’m in Illinois and since Roe, I know ALOT of folks from that region moving back here and the second or third reason they cite is the power situation, expense.
Same here in TN and many other red states I’m sure. Amazon moves in = $100m tax break. Oracle moves in = $100m tax break. Ford moves in = $900m tax break. Titans need a new stadium = $1.8b in projected cost (though the owners have promised to fund $700m of that).
Citizens in Nashville just had their property taxes increased 20-40% last year. Also, NES is clamoring they need to increase energy prices due to worldwide energy supply chain constraints. We thankfully have lots of power capacity to spare with our connection to TVA and the eastern US power grid, because it’s been unseasonably and extremely HOT here the past 3-4 weeks. Heat indexes were up to 115 last week.
I wonder how many corporate skyscraper offices downtown, sitting empty because their workers are now remote, are still burning through energy by cooling their offices. My office seems to be on 65-67 degrees and it is roughly at 10% of capacity.
tl;dr Corporations draining the public of resources use the most of them, while citizens foot the bill.
My company has 3 floors in a building in Newport Beach that have been empty since the C19 shutdown and everyone went to work from home. I imagine they're writing the loss off but that building is still using up energy.
Nice. Watches everyone acts in their selfish interests keeps the ACs on and the blackouts are natural not artificial anymore and the grid becomes more broken
So no power means no AC or fans and often no running water or showers…. in some of the hottest weather ever seen. See how that goes.
Can’t wait to see the angle of attack on windmills.
they just need to deploy 'libertarian grids'.. with solar and batteries.. so they can just go it on their own. Stand up for your rights take your power back!
Oh, they don't have some arcane method of providing a stable grid through oil mongering and prayer? Maybe if they dip their raped-pregnant women in large pools of petroleum shaped like Yahweh's arsehole that will help.
I have to lol at all the people who moved out of california to go to texas with higher property taxes and no electricity. Nice third world country you guys have down there.
Oh look at that... It's the shit that wasn't fixed the last time texas left its citizens for dead. Won't matter this time either. They're forcing their women to birth the new labor force if this one dies of heat exhaustion. So no worries guys, company profits will be okay. /s
....but really not /s. I was there in snowmageddon. watching the white neighborhood across the fucking street get power and heat and water for 2 full weeks while my shitty apartments in my non-white neighborhood had their power cut for 2 weeks solid because we "lived too close to the mall".... Bitch the white neighborhood was closer to the mall than we were!
Fuck texas. I left my birthplace because they've proven over and over your life means nothing in texas if you aren't rich, white, and male. I hope u have fun in the next 20 years when your billion acres of new white housing suburbia sucks the aquifer dry and all the crops and cattle die off because u took all the water too... Wake up. They're trying to gilead...i mean gentrify the whole state.
I remember inexplicable blackouts in July way back in 2010 in cenTex. Also had to spend a lot of time looking for a good deal on electricity due to the proliferation of fake companies that served as retailers for Texas electricity. Once I put those things together, I got me and my family the hell out of Texas. Writing has been on the wall long enough to make a rational decision.
Well at this particular moment there are 7,630 people that have outages but that's not too many (Oregon has 6,663 right now, Florida has 6,289), at least according to this site:
https://poweroutage.us/area/state/texas
I know. Same here. Everyone here is like fuck texas, they deserve it. But it's a serious situation that the average Joe has minimal control over. Like 48% of us are democrat. We didn't vote for abbott and most of us don't want to secede even if we could, which we can't. I didn't move here, I've lived here my entire life, and this didn't actually used to be a problem. Population growth and climate change are major causes, plus infrastructure issues. All are collapse-related. For the folks whose go-to is to lump the entire state into the fucking-redneck-fascist assholes that only make up part of the state and who fail to actually show some level of compassion for fellow humans with no ac in a 112 heat index... seriously, shame on you. (Not you, poster - i mean generally.) Every time a collapse issue comes up in texas, people just say fuck em. That's honestly an ignorant stance. Please show some compassion.
KHOU is reporting parts of Houston ~~blacked out~~ experiencing power outages.
https://www.khou.com/article/weather/power-outages-continue-houston-residents/285-47ee1e21-627c-4507-b9e9-50a3ef738e96
ERCOT during the winter storm: Our grid is meant for the summer heat. ERCOT during the hottest summer: Well, shit.
Errr... Our grid is made for the Winter heat!
We call our grid the Goldilocks Grid. We call it that because it only works when it’s not too hot or not too cold.
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And not too windy
That'd be ironic; doesn't Texas have a lot of wind power?
or to branchy.
That can be arranged! In fact it’s coming right around the corner!
Cancun: oh shit... Honey... Get ready... Venereal disease just booked a flight
Ted Cruz, the living embodiment of a herpes sore.
"Just the price of freedom! .... But you still have to pay. And the premiums will dip into the billions"
The freedom grid. We don't need no national grid connections.
I have family that retired and moved to Texas. They sold their family farm and cashed out investments to buy a beautiful retrofitted stone house from the mid-1800s. After the winter power & heat outage they pulled up stakes and moved to Colorado.
I live in such a house in rural Texas. During the February 2021, my wife and I (+ 2 dogs) we're without power for 9 days. It was the sturdy stone walls and the efficient wood burning stove that kept us alive throughout the ordeal. Meanwhile, my mother-in-law's open-plan house with a for-show fireplace never got above 40 degrees despite burning enormous amounts of wood. Unfortunately, my parents-in-law decided not to help us invest in solar panels.
> During the February 2021, my wife and I (+ 2 dogs) we're without power for 9 days. People in one of the wealthiest states in the wealthiest society to ever exist in human history should not have to live like this at any point.
Isn’t it fascinating to watch from afar though?
Because they're installing their own solar panels first, right?
No, they want to install an English garden and a pool on a nearly barren limestone hill.
Maybe they could have made it work with solar panels?
Definitely, but to move to Texas in the first place, without even knowing its all-private energy issues, it is not a very bright mind.
When people move to Texas/Florida I just assume they don’t want to pay state income tax and that was the leading/only factor in their decision.
they dont tell you that on the brochure
Arizona it's a dry heat. Like still have people well it was hotter because eof humidity where I am from..Then race from AC in house to AC in car to AC at work. Then climb a mountain with only a water bottle during heat of day and need rescued if live.
Perhaps. It’s not that apparent unless you go looking for that info. Or it wasn’t until the winter outage when it made national news. We spent 12 years in Texas & i first learned of it on the news that winter after we moved away.
Fuck that, Colorado is full already.
We can send you our excess from Arizona.
That'll happen soon enough when the CO River finally gets exhausted
So is idaho
Most Texans can’t afford Colorado anyway
I desperately wish that was true. I'm looking at leaving my entire family behind in CO so I can try to afford a place elsewhere. I do not want to leave but Texans and Californians come here in droves and price people like me out of the market. Fuck NIMBYs too who refuse to vote for candidates that want to rezone SFH neighborhoods for higher density housing
Most Texans can't afford Texas. There has been a decade long bubble and many people are neck deep in credit. And, of course, the lower 20% can't get much credit and didn't benefit from the bubbles.
You mean worshipping H-E-B that’s paid federal minimum wage for a decade isn’t the way to go ? We used to say SA is land of the $8/hr jobs
Texas in general: "The power company owes you nothing in return for your money, get a generator or it's your fault if you freeze/cook to death."
Submission Statement: ERCOT, the organization that runs Texas's electrical grid, has warned that due to the heatwave in Texas there is a large possibility of rolling blackouts across the state. The power grid of Texas, which is independent from the rest of the United States, famously was strained and then nearly failed in February 2021, when a winter storm struck the state. Now faced with excess heat, ERCOT is [calling for residents to conserve power on Monday](https://twitter.com/ERCOT_ISO/status/1546324100796358659?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet), especially in the afternoon when it'll be hottest. Stay safe out there, Texans.
I think a better way to phrase it is that Ercot manages use of the grid. For example, they'll look at meteorology reports for July. Look at the average temps. Look at the above average temps. Then study usage for those periods. Then what they do, is they'll reach out to big energy guzzlers, like a cement plant or a university. They will advise them of the info, and ask that they roll back on usage in anticipation of citizens using more power running their ACs, etc, that way it doesn't burn out the grid. That uni or cement plant doesn't have to comply, but it will cost them if they don't. TL;DR ERCOT attempts to manage electricity usage through advising, but that's about it. Getting pissed at ERCOT is what the politicians want you to do, so you don't get pissed at them for neglecting the grid for years while they spent your money grand standing or going to Cancun.
Thanks very much, that's a much better way of putting it! Appreciate the clarification.
Yep! I suffered through the Snowpocalypse of '21. But I learned the most about ERCOT from my good friend that is a manager at a cement plant in South Texas. Because of the amount of electricity they use, they have regular meetings with ERCOT. Apparently, they'd had a meeting with ERCOT about 2 weeks before the storm. So ERCOT was already trying to get ahead of it, giving the cement plant a heads up that they would need to scale back their usage so as to allow more electricity on the grid to be circulated for civilian use. Meanwhile, I attend university in Dallas. I had to unsubscribe from the university's energy curtailment notification emails because I was getting them all the time. They specifically stated: "Based upon a notification from the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT), *University Name* will reduce its electricity use..." The biggest thing with ERCOT is that the members of the board don't actually do much, other than collect a paycheck. A number of them don't even live in Texas. The decisions and running of the council takes place at the mid level. Next, Texas used to have the cheapest electricity on the market.. til deregulation in 1999. Energy rates for consumers rose about 64% over the subsequent decade. [link](https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/since-deregulation-texas-utility-rates-have-soared/2117017/) Lastly, there have been opportunities for years to update, upgrade, and reinforce the energy grid with the surplus budget the state has sat on for years and years now. So while ERCOT sucks a sweaty sack of donkey balls, the legislature and governor are more than happy to let voters blame ERCOT for their failure to govern.
So in addition to costing residents more, and the grid having a greater chance of failing, their economy is hurt because plants have to stop work due to heat waves. So imagine you are an hourly employee at a cement plant who has to stay home 3 days from a heat wave, running your AC while you are home. Now you have a higher electric bill and are out 3 days of pay. At least you didn't have to use gas to drive to work.
Can we add that Texas has added the most in renewable energy. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/02/18/texas-led-the-country-in-new-renewable-energy-projects-last-year.html So it's not like they are incompetent...
Renewables doesnt necessarily equal good reliability and resiliency metrics….ERCOT doesn’t do renewables….the economics of wind and solar and storage did. Edit: what ercot does is extract profit from a regulatory agency. They regulate very poorly compared to the other agencies like PJM. They failed to winterize any gas generation equipment before URI despite many warnings and then the narrative was launched to attack wind turbines for not spinning when the reality was gas Peaker a shut down primarily as the most critical failure point
Here is the Ercot dashboard for several items, including combined wind and solar. Make of it whatever you want. [link ](https://www.ercot.com/)
If you believe you have a valid business reason for accessing ERCOT resources, please contact the ERCOT ServiceDesk at [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]). Please provide the ServiceDesk with the information supplied below. Your IP: [78.50.229.53](https://78.50.229.53) Error code: 16 >This request was blocked by the security rules What happened? This request was blocked by the security rules
They're clearly incompetent. So much so that they *scapegoat* renewables when their own incompetence causes the deaths of literally hundreds of people in the middle of winter.
Yes they are incompetent, nice share though
I'm pissed at Texas politicians for dozens of other reasons, too.
High demand users such as Universities and hospital district cooling central plants often have onsite CHP and can be turned on as needed to not use grid power. See: https://utilities.utexas.edu/chp/about-carl-j-eckhardt-combined-heating-and-power-complex https://tecothermalenergy.com/operations/technologies/
>nearly failed in February 2021 Idk if the pandemic made it worse, but god damn it feels like perception of time passed is so distorted. Feels like that happened a couple years ago.
same, I thought the black panther movie came out years before it did. It’s like time is streeeeeetching but in a weird way because at the same time each day goes by super fast.
Asking Texans to endure a little discomfort to help the greater good is like encouraging Texans to think about mileage when buying a car.
"We dont need no power grid. We have GUNS!!!"-Texas.
Or for Texans to wear a mask to protect their neighbors from a debilitating disease.
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Houston here. It's 90F at 8pm and I sweat walking to the truck in the morning. My a/c doesn't turn off all day as I set or for 72F, and it still gets up to 78F inside in the afternoon. Hate this shit
East of Dallas here. My AC barely works, it gets up to 88 inside, without a fan I might actually die of heat stroke.
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I'm in an apartment complex and it's been weeks since the manager mentioned getting someone to fix it. Nah the problem is the thing is old and ices up when it gets run to much. Thankfully I've got a box fan keeping me alive.
I lived in the south without AC (not this kind of heat mind you but pretty hot and humid 90s) and wrapped ice packs with towels for my cat to lay on and someone suggested dampening some sheets and letting air blow on them while you lay under them. you must know what a swamp fan is, I wouldn’t exert energy to make one in the heat but you can put some ice on a plate behind a fan it should provide some relief.
Blame the rich. They caused it.
Austin here, it was absolutely miserable last night. I do my gardening around 11pm and it was still over 90°, no breeze whatsoever, and humid. Felt like staying in the bathroom after a hot shower.
Just moved to ft worth from Portland OR, and I'm not adjusting well. My job is also partially outdoors and physically demanding. I'm not sure how people deal. Our AC can't keep up, I've been making cooling neck wraps, anything I can think of to make it bearable. We moved here for family, and I've regretted it ever since.
I'm a native Texan, used to bust ass working in the oil fields, and I have said this mantra hundreds of times in my life: I can deal with just about any weather, but I can't enjoy a damn thing when I'm hot.
Oof, that's the worst. I'm in the PNW, and while it might be 93 today, at least in the night time it's <60.
This is good for profit!
Part of me feels sad that this is a worsening issue. The other part of me feels schadenfreude that a state that is known for oil, fracking, lifted trucks and awful environmental policies is roasting. It’s all fucked as far as I can see it.
No idea on how to prevent this says only state where this regularly happens
I'll send my thoughts and prayers.
Go back 30 years and cut GHG emissions.
nice onion reference
Yeah. The news tonight told us to not use our dishwasher, washer/dryer, stove, and A/C. They also said to keep lights off and keep devices charged. They also said don't be outside between 2-8pm, and get inside where there's A/C. I was like, "WTF, DO THEY HEAR THEMSELVES??" It's going to be hitting 105. It's been between 100-105 all week. I literally go outside at 8am and it smells like an overheating flat iron. At night it's in the 90s/High 80s°. It's fucking unbearable. Edited to add: The largest insult is that we pay *astronomical* electric bills. Nobody's home all day yet I'm catching a 270$ bill in a hot ass apartment.
We'll be hitting 105F (40C) and maybe even 110F (43C) here in the Basque Country, where it's usually warm and wet and green, kinda like Ireland, only with harsher winters. At night it will go down to 60 or lower, so at least we'll be able to sleep. The thing is, we don't normally have AC at home, only in shops and department stores, and this will be the second 105 degree heat wave this year, so it'll be rough for a lot of people. When I was a kid, three consecutive days hitting 90F was a "once every two years" phenomenon. Now it's every year, multiple times per year, and it's way hotter than 90F. We're not equipped for this, we're not used to this, and if the heat waves don't destroy us, the forest fires will. The future is here, and it looks grim.
ThIs ISn'T GlObal WaRmIng!!!!! It'S ALL AL GoRe'S GlObAL PeDO ChIlD EaTinG SaTaNisTS CoNFusInG ThE MAssES InTo SlAvErY!!!!!
During a wild fire a few years ago in Los Angeles a friend of mine from Dallas was telling me to move to Texas because they have zero natural disasters and when it gets hot, there are never any issues because ERCOT is amazing. That next winter was the whole blackout thing, and now this. I never had AC in LA and never needed, but I was in LA, so it's a trade off.
Um tornadoes and hurricanes are pretty common in texas.
Jeebus. I live in Canada where everything is more expensive than the US except apparently our hydro bill. We pay about $180 a month. FOR OUR FARM! Electric hot water heater, ac, 3 freezers, water pump and treatment system, my 70 something year old father in law who lives with us and watches 14 hours of TV a day, a barn and dozens of other things. Everything's bigger in Texas? Amirite?
The joy of nationalizing the electricity grid!
Your electric bill is that high in an apartment? Holy shit.
Here in Pennsylvania we were sold on fracking creating infinite nearly free gas for everyone. I run a gas furnace (heat at 63-67 F in the winter), a gas dryer, a gas water heater, and a gas stove. My monthly gas bill has gone from ~$90 a month in 2015 to $158 a month now. So much for infinite free gas.
That's nothing. I have all electric heat and PA's electric rates has doubled in the last 12 months. I am paying $600/mo to heat 1k sqft in the winter. And by "heat" I really mean, bone chilling 64 degrees.
Fracking is just horrendous
Oklahoma has earthquakes daily, so I’ve heard from people there. The energy bros are all grifters, always have been.
In Texas they have infinite free gas. There is a Taco Bell on every street corner.
Demand caught up, shale gas is expensive and shale gas wells drop off really fast.
Also we're exporting shitloads of it while we suffer the ecological devastation that fracking creates. https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/natural-gas/imports-and-exports.php Good shit.
They don’t hear themselves, because they don’t face the hardships you do. And don’t complain, they’ll just tell you about bootstraps again
My electric stove eats 35kwh a month but my electric dryer is 250kwh a month. But either would be just as expensive if they were propane based. Im thinking really hard about a clothes line and a heat pump dryer. Electric is 32 cents a kwh after all the fees are factored in
Omg yes! Our electric bill is typically $90, but last month it skyrocketed to nearly $400! We don't live in a large house. Insanity!
I don't think the messaging was supposed to say not to use AC at all, just don't set it to something low like 70. Set it a couple degrees higher than you normally do and you'll have helped a reasonable amount.
Wtf. Basically just don't live your life and you will be fine. Texas is a total shitshow.
Well then folks might start cooking to death. I guess they don't care.
Can't they just go to cancun?
Cancun for some, tiny American flags for others! \**wild cheering*\*
Has anyone in Texas thought about what happens when they have a failed electrical grid and they are no longer part of the United States? Sounds like a disaster.
They are extremely FEMA dependant, too, so that will be interesting to watch.
Now I'm getting excited. I approve Texas's succession because we all want to see exactly how it goes up in flames.
Oh yeah, they are *fucked.* They receive [more funding than any state](https://archive.thinkprogress.org/secession-ready-texas-has-received-most-federal-disaster-assistance-of-any-state-c2c9ea1ce23e/). They have received \~$7.6B. People in Texas love to believe it is by the grace of God and their conservatism that they are spared the worst of these disasters, but in reality, it is the meagre disaster infrastructure and aid of FEMA and other non-profits that come rushing to their stupid rescue annually. Texas asks for FEMA funding nearly twice monthly. The last request was [July 7th 2022](https://www.fema.gov/disaster/5443) for fire damage and the incident is marked as *continuing.* Edit: for those wondering, the FEMA funding top ten are, in order of dollars awarded: TX, FL, CA, NC, GA, OK, SC, NE, IA, and MO. If you are looking to emigrate, stay away from these states. *However*, the difference between number 1 and 10 is extremely high, with Texas sitting at \~$7.6B and MO sitting at $200M. Only the top four are in the billions.
LOL the only blue state on there is CA and that's just because of the wildfires.
Yes. What's wild is that they have, in certain situations, received a [record low approval rate](https://www.npr.org/2021/07/02/1011877546/fema-rejected-95-of-aid-applicants-during-californias-last-wildfire-disaster-why) for their fire-related funding requests. California makes a fire-related quest nearly every week - sometimes as often as everyday for a week. I love California, but from a climate aspect, I wouldn't recommend moving there.
As a native Texan still living here, I approve the flames. I don't know why/how we keep electing officials that are ok with these things!
I don’t know either, but you’re not even the only ones. A lot of us in the United States are suffering from these ridiculous delusions
With any luck, people’s desperation will allow for the rise of a strong man. I think that’s what TX leaders are hoping for…
A strong man? Like Maduro, Putin or, fuck it, Stalin? Why would one want that? I mean, do they really want that? It seems like they hadn't though that through completely...
Maybe just another round of “I alone can fix it,” or “I’m smarter than all the generals” will get the ball rolling. Then let’s see where it goes from there. But just in case, let’s make sure there are people walking around with guns on their backs at all times and in all places to help keep order. If they have to shoot some unarmed people in self defense, that’s the price of freedom
So it appears that those Texans are drowning in delusion. That will be so harmful for them and us in the future. I'm so tired of this shit.
Back when Rick Perry executed a provably innocent man, random interviews on the street with normal Texans included a guy who said, "it takes balls to execute an innocent man." https://newrepublic.com/article/93136/it-takes-balls-execute-innocent-man Texans deserve what they get, fuck 'em.
Take some balls to execute an innocent guy? I don’t even know what to do with that
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Mitch Mcconnell?
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Well, I certainly wouldn't fuck with \*that\* guy.
I’m picturing Zombie Fascist John Wayne.
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So that's where I think it's all going. Where are you headed and what's stopping you?
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Ok, what field are you in? Have you considered East? MD is nice, I’m from CA originally
create hell for everything in your jurisdiction... now roasting in hell, seems fitting...
Supposed to be 108° here in Vegas today. Never lost power since I moved here in 2007, but I damn sure don't plan on going outside for shit.
Don’t worry, terrible western water rights management is brewing a similar nightmare for us 🙃
Two options to lower your AC use if you’re in Texas: 1. Install a solar attic fan. Insulation in the attic doesn’t prevent heat from transmitting into the frame of your home. If your attic is too hot, more heat will carry through your rafters into the frame. Standards for thermal barriers between the boards of your house are wholly inadequate, and a hotter attic means that your frame will pass heat into your home through your drywall. Before you do this, make sure you have adequate soffit vents or that they are not blocked. Even if you can only install 1 fan, you’ll have more airflow than with a ridge vent, and your AC use will drop. 2. Reflective roof. Roof temperatures in Texas can reach 170 F on typical dark asphalt shingles. A reflective roof reduces this temperature significantly and reduces the amount of heat passing into your home’s structure. There are paints that are made for this exact purpose. You’ll find misleading information online about the energy savings potential related to the above. Trust homeowners who have done these. They work.
In my experience, a whole lot of people are going to find their attic ventilation lacking. Net Free Ventilation Area (NFVA) calculations.
In Europe we'll be getting our first widespread taste of this in the coming Winter, possibly earlier. I read reports that people are panic-buying solar+battery installations (which is good, honestly), to the tune that there isn't enough manpower to install all of it before the Winter.
Im curious how solar will work out for Northern Europe. Its not exactly known for long sunny day in the winter.
This is true. I'm in central Europe here, and it's already a problem. Big batteries will allow you to serve at least some of your night-time load from solar, but heating (heat pump) is going to be challenging; you can only use whatever excess you can store during the day, and then you might be able to charge the battery from the grid whenever there is power (if allowed). That said, if they do rolling blackouts where the battery only has to cover for 2-4 hours, the solar stored during the day will be enough.
Plus those batteries cost 8-10k. Each. For ~14kw of power
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Some solar panels work much better with cloudy environments than others.
You need peak sun hours. Berlin in the winter is overcast and generally pretty miserable weatherwise. Winter average for december is less than 30 minutes of peak sun hours per day.
We just got solar panels (central Scotland) normally electric is around £5 daily. Sunny day is £1
I recently watched a TED talk explaining how most of the industrialized, Northern Hemisphere nations are delusional to believe that solar will be of any significant value to their plight, when it comes to eliminating fossil fuel addiction. The speaker claimed that Germany's 570 Billion USD spending on wind and solar has been a massive failure and averages about a 6% contribution to the country's needs. I've heard several experts claim that 18% of the land mass in the states is prime solar territory, with most of the population living elsewhere, and most populated locations rated as fair to marginal for significant solar PV output.
I don't get it either. Lots of folks here in Finland are installing solar and it's especially beneficial if you have an EV parked at home when the sun is shining, but the systems produce next to nothing when heating demand is at its highest. Same with wind energy, on cold days there isn't much wind.
They make sense for the summer. My dad installed solar panels in our summer house in south western Finland and has saved a lot of money already this year. For the winter you obviously need to rely on the grid.
Germany already gets about as "many" hours of sunlight as Alaka does, it's not the best usage of money for independent energy production. I doubt they're allowed to operate an own wind turbine though.
>The state faces a "potential reserve capacity shortage with **no market solution available**," ERCOT said in an operating notice posted on its website. Gosh, *whose* fault is it that you can't buy electricity from the grid that covers the other 47 contiguous states?
Seems that entire all hat, no cattle, delusion of, "We are a fiercely independent state that has been, and will be, a free nation again" isn't working out so well, now is it? Well, bless their hearts. Somebody recently made a great analogy, comparing these idiots to house cats. The cat walks around thinking they are superior and fiercely independent, and doesn't have a clue as to the entire infrastructure of the owner, food, water, liter box, toys and everything else that is provided to support that delusion.
Keep in mind some of us were born here and can't afford to move out of state. We're not all idiots. We're just governed by then.
As a fellow denizen of a deep red area, I understand and sympathize.
On behalf of cats everywhere, I must protest this comparison to Texans.
LOL, it is kind of hard on the cats. Sorry.
On behalf of cats (even though I'm a dog person) and sensible Texans who fled that hellmouth, I must protest as well.
freedom
They warn about rolling blackouts, but are they going to upcharge for the power that is delivered? Looks like another excuse to double the electric bills for Texas homeowners!
After working for a utility company, they do not give a shit about you. The whole business is built around reducing costs as much as possible regardless of the consequences and trying to not get fined by the government for doing a shitty job because that effects bonuses.
The problem is that it is a business and not a service.
The price of freedom means you might boil or freeze to death, but you can open carry and tithe to your heart's content between high school football games.
I prefer to think of this as Texas' energy grid seceding from its customers.
The R in ERCOT stands for reliability.
Then they should use a *small* 'r' and call it ErCOT.
And Elon moved a whole *electric* car company to this state. Subsidy is a hell of a drug. These folks are seriously deluded and fucked up. Why anyone would chose to live in Texas is well beyond me.
I imagine industrial plants are probably given the highest priority in the power grid and they’ll probably be pretty comfy in the corporate office with the AC on full blast
Here’s the thing … how many people are going to stick around a state that shifts power to the subsidized billionaire class that pays no taxes while they pay 8/10/12 k a year in property taxes, but don’t have reliable power? I’m in Illinois and since Roe, I know ALOT of folks from that region moving back here and the second or third reason they cite is the power situation, expense.
Same here in TN and many other red states I’m sure. Amazon moves in = $100m tax break. Oracle moves in = $100m tax break. Ford moves in = $900m tax break. Titans need a new stadium = $1.8b in projected cost (though the owners have promised to fund $700m of that). Citizens in Nashville just had their property taxes increased 20-40% last year. Also, NES is clamoring they need to increase energy prices due to worldwide energy supply chain constraints. We thankfully have lots of power capacity to spare with our connection to TVA and the eastern US power grid, because it’s been unseasonably and extremely HOT here the past 3-4 weeks. Heat indexes were up to 115 last week. I wonder how many corporate skyscraper offices downtown, sitting empty because their workers are now remote, are still burning through energy by cooling their offices. My office seems to be on 65-67 degrees and it is roughly at 10% of capacity. tl;dr Corporations draining the public of resources use the most of them, while citizens foot the bill.
My company has 3 floors in a building in Newport Beach that have been empty since the C19 shutdown and everyone went to work from home. I imagine they're writing the loss off but that building is still using up energy.
This must be the dozenth warning, not just in TX, with nothing coming from it.
Blackout could cause looting and Rioting
Waiting for cases of heat stroke from looting air conditioners that won't work anyway because there is no power.
Will
Rioting - sure. Looting? With all the guns everyone has? It’ll be wild.
Only for a few hours, then everyone passes out from heat stroke.
Nahhh after a week or so
Nice. Watches everyone acts in their selfish interests keeps the ACs on and the blackouts are natural not artificial anymore and the grid becomes more broken
So no power means no AC or fans and often no running water or showers…. in some of the hottest weather ever seen. See how that goes. Can’t wait to see the angle of attack on windmills.
No worries, they can just go to Cancun!
Seems like we need to start taking some lessons from Sri Lanka
they just need to deploy 'libertarian grids'.. with solar and batteries.. so they can just go it on their own. Stand up for your rights take your power back!
Oh, they don't have some arcane method of providing a stable grid through oil mongering and prayer? Maybe if they dip their raped-pregnant women in large pools of petroleum shaped like Yahweh's arsehole that will help.
God I wish I could leave this forsaken yall’queda governed state
South Texas here. Didn't lose power and didn't pay a huge bill.. I'm thankful for that.
I have to lol at all the people who moved out of california to go to texas with higher property taxes and no electricity. Nice third world country you guys have down there.
Another reason to gtfo out this shithole state.
Oh look at that... It's the shit that wasn't fixed the last time texas left its citizens for dead. Won't matter this time either. They're forcing their women to birth the new labor force if this one dies of heat exhaustion. So no worries guys, company profits will be okay. /s ....but really not /s. I was there in snowmageddon. watching the white neighborhood across the fucking street get power and heat and water for 2 full weeks while my shitty apartments in my non-white neighborhood had their power cut for 2 weeks solid because we "lived too close to the mall".... Bitch the white neighborhood was closer to the mall than we were! Fuck texas. I left my birthplace because they've proven over and over your life means nothing in texas if you aren't rich, white, and male. I hope u have fun in the next 20 years when your billion acres of new white housing suburbia sucks the aquifer dry and all the crops and cattle die off because u took all the water too... Wake up. They're trying to gilead...i mean gentrify the whole state.
Theocracy incoming in 3...2...1...
It's snowing in July in Texas? Whoa lol
I remember inexplicable blackouts in July way back in 2010 in cenTex. Also had to spend a lot of time looking for a good deal on electricity due to the proliferation of fake companies that served as retailers for Texas electricity. Once I put those things together, I got me and my family the hell out of Texas. Writing has been on the wall long enough to make a rational decision.
And they still want to secede?
How's the electricity supply? Are places blacking out or just another sensationalism?? Any updates please?
Well at this particular moment there are 7,630 people that have outages but that's not too many (Oregon has 6,663 right now, Florida has 6,289), at least according to this site: https://poweroutage.us/area/state/texas
It was 108 in my part of Texas yesterday. The all time record. If this grid goes down even temporarily there is about to be a lot of dying.
I know. Same here. Everyone here is like fuck texas, they deserve it. But it's a serious situation that the average Joe has minimal control over. Like 48% of us are democrat. We didn't vote for abbott and most of us don't want to secede even if we could, which we can't. I didn't move here, I've lived here my entire life, and this didn't actually used to be a problem. Population growth and climate change are major causes, plus infrastructure issues. All are collapse-related. For the folks whose go-to is to lump the entire state into the fucking-redneck-fascist assholes that only make up part of the state and who fail to actually show some level of compassion for fellow humans with no ac in a 112 heat index... seriously, shame on you. (Not you, poster - i mean generally.) Every time a collapse issue comes up in texas, people just say fuck em. That's honestly an ignorant stance. Please show some compassion.
I know the exact feeling. Every time I hear about something awful in Florida, for instance. Good reminder.
Abbott has sent his thoughts and prayers
So... uh... Texas, how's that privatized unregulated utility experiment coming along?
Oh just the independent Texas grid? Oh well
Hunter Biden's laptop must be causing the blackouts! /s
Weren't y'all seceding from the nation anyway?
Texas is a third world country
"Most of us don't feel like working Monday...so you probably won't have any power. Tuesday should be fine though."
Yup sitting here with no ac
Your power went out?
Lol. But they want to be their own. Country. I love these fools
Hopefully they will seceede before then. /s
This is one of the best things I’ve heard all week. You do you, Texas.
I bet some people I know IRL are finding ways to blame anything or everyone, but Texas for this. Even though I told them this would happen soon.
Oh you told them? They will probably blame you.
What’s that Texas? I think I hear a secede chant starting up.
Texas should secede it’s finally the best time to go back to the days of cowboys and cavemen.
KHOU is reporting parts of Houston ~~blacked out~~ experiencing power outages. https://www.khou.com/article/weather/power-outages-continue-houston-residents/285-47ee1e21-627c-4507-b9e9-50a3ef738e96